>lefties are against bikes now Haha, holy shit.

I don't mind bikes but those points are valid.

>>131647030
Are you kidding they just uglied up all the city with those stupid af bike racks come on liberals get your shit together

This whole bicycle "revolution" that's happening in the US is only killing people. Getting a lot of people to use bicycle without having the right infrastructure is extremely dangerous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlApbxLz6pA

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REMINDER THAT IF YOU'RE NOT USING A BIKE HELMET WHILE RIDING A BIKE ON THE STREET YOU'RE A FUCKING DEGENERATE

>>131647030
Cycling is fun, buses are disgusting and filled with trash.

Commies want us to use collectivised transport, what a surprise.

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>>131647785
Safety Nazi?

>>131647785
Oh boy, I can't wait to be crippled for life, but at least I'll survive (maybe) because I was wearing a helmet!

>>131647977
THATS ANIMAL ABUSE!!!

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>>131647985
>I'd rather die than lose my legs/ arms

>>131647977
>National Socialism is le edge :-D

out of my board
now

>>131647030
>bikes utilize space less efficiently than cars

What kind of retarded cocksucker thought this one up?

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>>131647985
It's supposed to save you from being crippled as well, depending on how you hit the ground.
I fell last year and would have ripped all the skin off the left side of my face if I wasn't wearing a helmet- it hit first and kept my head from smacking the pavement.

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>>131648124

>>131647030
Bicycles are great

>>131648168
Are you incapable of comprehending what you read? Idiot.

>>131647785
>can't drive down the street without someone on a bike riding right out in front of you
>can't ride your bike down the street without some nigger on their phone almost ending your life

>>131647529
yes a meme picture of drake waving his hand around means that all of these cities officially decided to get rid of them because bikes are racist

>>131647030
Living in Seattle has made me learn to hate cyclists. Driving downtown is already a nightmare, but let's take away lanes to make bike lanes that incredibly under utilized. Also, their refusal to either act like cars or pedestrians drives me nuts. They seem convinced that the rules of the road don't apply to them.

>>131648884
Not everyone can afford themselves a car.
Accidents are inevitable, the best thing you can do is prepare for them.
Drunk drivers are found in every country.

>>131647030
Not to mention the amount of coal needed to make bicycles. Steel and AL require enormous amounts of coal. The problem is these retards don't understand how anything is made.

>>131647785
sorry my niggah, but I personally ride around doing wheelies every five seconds while wearing a black hoodie and facemask. I love to steal phones on my bike, as well.

>>131648124
>I'd rather die than lose my legs/ arms
Yes, I would.

>>131649291
>he doesn't want to be a cyborg
The flesh is weak.

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>>131649178

You can do all of that AND survive a car crash on your bike by wearing a helmet.

>>131649291

There is also a chance of only losing 1 limb
There is also a chance of not losing any limbs
Legs can be replaced.
Arm prosthetics are one day away from being in the medical market.

You live a sad life.

Well if we didn't allow women drivers using a bike would be safer.

>>131649609
One decade away*

>>131649123
>Not everyone can afford themselves a car.
if you can't save up $8,000 you don't deserve to live

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>>131647030
>limited range

I guess so when you're a fatass murilard'.

>>131647785
Kek, you're a fucking pussy. Anyone who wears a helmet while riding a bike deserves to get shot for being a faggot.

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Bicycles are truly great. It feels wonderful to traverse huge swaths of the country using only your own physical power. I bike commute 10 miles everyday. I love that fattys and cripples can't use them because they are physical failures. It also feels great outrunning a lycra clad faggot on a $2500 titanium carbon fiber bicycle on my $200 steel and leather bike while wearing my work clothes. I love knowing my unrivalled superiority on the road is simply because of skill determination and raw physical prowess rather than just throwing money into parts or a better engine like a motor vehicle.

Especially women driving trucks. Whew lad.

>>131647587
>the right infrastructure
>for bikes
I ride my bike through the woods everyday, what kind of infrastructure do you need?

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>>131647785
Yes this is true. Wear a helmet you faggots.

>>131649701
>Maintenance
>Insurance
>Bikes are more fun to ride
>When you can't magically wish yourself 8K€ and have to rely on your bike to ride to your workplace until you have saved up as much

>>131649826
You call those using helmets pussies the same reason 15-year olds call those who don't want to smoke sissies.
I really wish your kind goes extinct in the imminent future, you over-feminized fruitball.

>>131650205
bikes are only more fun to ride if you live in the city. maintenance is a non-issue if you're not an idiot, and insurance is a non-issue. you're a faggot if you use a bicycle.

>>131649826
Now now, it's good for a 5 year old to wear a helmet.

>>131650205
Start wearing a helmet in the car then. Places where there's the right infrastructure and where people know how to cycle are safe enough without helmets.

>>131650402
>Non-argument
>Non-argument
>Non-argument
>Ignores my last and most important point

Australian damage control.

>>131649826
Helmets are important you faggot, whether for combat or cycling they'll save your life.

>>131650546
>not buying a car when you're 17 with money saved from work

>>131647985
Eh it decreases your chances of getting fucked up quite a lot
Day after graduation this guy in my class just got bumped from behind by a car at a stop sign (fender bender if it was 2 cars), he just fell off and cracked his head and died at 18

Same thing with seatbelts, I used to write them off as cucky but I personally know too many people who have already died from not wearing them

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>>131650205
>calls me an over-feminized fruitball
>wears a helmet while riding a bike

>>131650529
No faggot. You can still just biff it and BOOM traumatic brain injury and you're now retarded. I suppose you probably wouldn't have much to worry about so go ahead ride naked and eat lead paint chips you fucking queer.

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>>131649826
Correct

>>131647977
Your dumb ass is wasting a hospital bed and a physician's time.

>>131649900
Aye lad, that it does.

>>131650659
Yes, and you should also wear a helmet while driving a car.

>>131650835
I'm sorry Pedro, I get that you have to wear a helmet when walking or when you're stuck on your mobility scooter, but you have to keep in mind that people in other countries don't have bones made out of paper maché.

Bicyclists are all massive faggots I feel.

>>131649900
>girl comes over
>boy you got some thick legs
>she Mires that I'm fit, feels up my massive legs as I put my cock in her
>go to gym
>man it's hot in here
>Change into shorts
>stacies on treadmill stare at them quads
>roiding bros start asking me how much I squat

>>131651056
Not since I have a seatbelt, airbags and a 2 tonne car you stupid dutchnigger.

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>>131651062
I think we can both agree that there should never be laws forcing anyone to wear a helmet. You can wear a dildo strapped to your head for all I care but I've been in accidents where my helmet impacted the ground and twice it shattered or broke in half. That would have been my skull so I'm going to keep wearing a helmet.

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>>131647785
+1

Safety Squad protip: Lightning bolts on your helmet make you go faster!

>>131647030
>Riding my bike in Sacramento
>Try hard to obey road rules and right-of-way

And yet
>Every single stop sign intersection I come to, nobody will move through the intersection before I do
>Even if they were there first
>Even if they were there a full 30 seconds before me and saw me coming down the road
>People stop in the middle of intersections where they have green lights to OPEN THEIR WINDOWS AND WAVE ME ACROSS AN INTERSECTION AGAINST A RED LIGHT
>People stop in the middle of FUCKING ROUNDABOUTS to give me a chance to cross instead of just moving along with the flow of traffic

I want to ride my bike more but I feel like traffic efficiency in my city drops 60% whenever I do

>>131649900
When I used to bike commute I would overtake fat gen Xers in full Lycra on their $2000 carbon fiber track bikes on my fixed gear steel frame bike in a tshirt and jeans all the time. The salt was palpable. Shoot man I miss those feels.

Are bikes /ourtransportation/?

>>131651845
I absolutely ignore all drivers and their bullshit. I only pay attention to their cars and always assume I am completely invisible.

>>131649701
LOL

South African here. I earn $4800 year. So I would have to save all my money for 2 years to afford a car. Or die.

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>>131652024
>fixed gear
>steel frame

Yes brother, they are.

>>131649900
You're just poor and stupid. You're lucky you're stupid though, it gives you a sense of superiority based on your subjective estimate of your physical prowess alone.

>>131651615
Perhaps, to be fair if I went cycling in the US I'd also wear a bulletproof vest, just in case I accidentally ended up in the hood.

In Seattle, I've seen many bike riders just haul ass through red lights if they don't see any cars, even though they can't actually see the side traffic from the angle and speed they are going.

>>131652985
D A R W I N
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>>131653197
tfw it erased my carefully placed spaces

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>>131650678
>Having 8K€ by the time you're 17
please point me to the wonderful job you have exercised.

>>131650529
>Start wearing a helmet in the car then.
Flase equivalency.
Airbags already fulfill the job of providing one with safety.

>Places where there's the right infrastructure and where people know how to cycle are safe enough without helmets.
Abstract thought. There will always be a risk of a drunk driver, of a bad cycler, of a nigger thinking it's a good idea to visit your district, of a child getting in your way and you having to drive into something, if you're cycling too fast.

>>131650765
Is that an image of yourself?
The reason I call you over-feminized is because you don't wear a helmet because you're too concerned of what others think of you if you did.
I wear a helmet, because I can make decisions for myself. Literally not a single person in my life approved of bike helmets.
Once again, you're nothing more than a feminized, underage fruitball who acts beta to follow what his group, be it circle of friends or local community, is doing.

Let me sum it up for your puny brain:

Pros of using a helmet:
- Incredibly cheap life insurance, securing your head in 99% of cases.
- Will inspire children to do the same

Negatives of using a helmet:
- Some people on an anonymous forum will think you're a pussy

Soldiers also wear helmets, are they pussies for thinking they could get shot to their head? Even though the next enemy is a few miles away?
Were Romans sissies for using helmets, even though they had a big ass fucking scutum shielding their entire body from projectiles and melee contact?

The only fucking argument you can bring is that getting hit by a bullet in a skirmish happens more often than getting hit by a car in open traffic.
There are hundreds of thousands accidents involving bikes world wide per country.

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>>131652836
I don't know leaf I do win or hit the top 3 in most of the organized road races I've ever done and NO ONE ever passes me on the road. My preference in bikes and cycling attire wouldn't change if I had a $10mil in the bank. Fixed is better. Steel is stronger. Leather saddles are more comfy. I am faster than you. Water is wet. The sky is blue. Canada sucks.

>>131647030
Gas the bikes race war now

>>131652910
I do actually carry a gun while cycling most of the time.

>>131647030
he's right, motorcarts are the future

any size deserves a ride

>>131653545
Your argument is invalid, since I am Russian and posting through a proxy. Кaк я и гoвopил, ты тyпoвaт, бpaтишкa. Эpa, кoгдa мышцы oпpeдeляли ycпeх yжe зaкoнчилacь вeздe, кpoмe cpaнoгo ближнeгo вocтoкa.

>>131647030

As a driver I fucking hate cyclists

As a cyclist I fucking hate other cyclists

>>131647265
Sweden detected, go prep Mohammud for his bike rides there Hans

>>131647265
>bikes are inaccessible to fatties
i think the problem are the fatties and the food system
>road space efficiency
see: vietnam
>competing with public transportation
?????

Why do cycling threads always bring out the edgelords?

>>131654101
Nem.
>>131654102
The problems are rather that bikes are inaccessible to people with no legs.
inb4 but pedals, you can get driving wheels with buttons that replace the pedals
>vietnam
Why the fuck would I know anything about that place, I didn't go there to lose a war.
>bikes take too much space on the road and transport very few people so they're not as efficient as public transport
Makes sense to me.

>>131654320
Because drivers make bad experience with a few leftist cyclists and automatically grow a hatred for all of them.

>>131654511
The thing is I've never had bad experiences with them. Granted, there aren't many where I live, but bad drivers and tourists who don't know where the fuck they're going are ten times worse.

>>131648307
I am alive today because I was wearing a bike helmet. Helmet got destroyed though.

>>131647030
bikes should NOT be on the same road as cars.

they should have just turned side walks into bike roads instead.

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>>131651196

>>131652024
>fixed gear
Why is every cyclist in America a massive hipster faggot?

>>131654320
It's cool and hip to edgy about them, and a few bad leftist cyclists and kids act like complete fucktards so people tend to assume any cyclist is some smug retard.

>>131654972
Walked by a bike store in Seattle, they had a ton of candy colored Pee Wee Herman style hipster fixed gear bikes outside, but the prices were $2,500 to $4,000. Could not believe it.

>>131654446
>no legs
nobody forced them to use bicycle
>bikes take too much space on the road and transport very few people so they're not as efficient as public transport
same argument can be applied for cars and any other non-public transport so it's a non argument

i agree that public bike transport is stupid, but the OP doesnt mention that

>>131654972
Because they're easy to fix and maintain. Also requires you to know what the fuck your doing or you die, thus thinking the idiot population.

>>131654933
And where are people supposed to walk?

Thjis meme that every cyclist literally rides in the middle of the road taking up traffic is so fucking stupid. Most try their best to stay on the side of the road to let cars pass on through.

Very few of them think they "own the road."

>>131655669
>And where are people supposed to walk?
the same fucking place you dumbass.

>>131655254

Its insane, its a status symbol for trust fund hipsters who can afford to live central enough that a bike is plausible.

>>131647030
>largely inaccessible to people with disabilities

that's bullshit, they make bikes for all sorts of people, even those with non working legs or arms

>>131655783
So, you're against bikes and cars mingling, but bikes and walking people are ok?

You realize there's more potential for harm with them riding on the sidewalks, right?

There are people, light poles, mailboxes, trashcans, etc.

Any place with a lot of cyclists is usually going to be urban, thus having a lot of traffic lights, meaning the cars can't go very fast, or at least they shouldn't be.

>>131655544

your "not an argument" is not an argument. car lanes are constantly used by both cars and buses, bike lanes are barely used at all, at least in my city.

>>131651542
And when you drive a bicycle, you'll never have a fatal fall. Unless you're a retarded untermensch, which you most definitely are, potatonigger.

>>131653535
>The reason I call you over-feminized is because you don't wear a helmet because you're too concerned of what others think of you if you did.
No, I don't wear a helmet because it's not necessary. At all. Nobody here wears helmets when they ride a fucking bicycle.

>>131647030
>>131647030
Right wing cycling squads when?

>>131656105
>You realize there's more potential for harm with them riding on the sidewalks, right?

higher potential but less severe harm.

>>131656707
Goddamn that would be awesome. I hate bike events because they always bring out the leftys.

>>131650164
>I ride my bike through the woods everyday, what kind of infrastructure do you need?

You need to be able to ride seperate from fast traffic. Any road over 20mph should really have a seperate facility for bikes, ideally physically seperated from faster (and harder..) traffic. Riding in the woods works, but isn't necessarily ideal for A to B transport.

As a rule of thumb, if cyclists wear helmets where you live, the infrastructure is shit.

>>131657051
>As a rule of thumb, if cyclists wear helmets where you live, the infrastructure is shit.

This.

Bike lanes matter.

>>131656373
>Nobody here wears helmets when they ride a fucking bicycle.

Proving my point.
You are bringing something up that implies that you DO CARE what others do/ think.
Otherwise that statement was completely unnecessary.

>inb4 hipster

>>131650164
How many 5 ton hunks of steel go 20-60 MPH next to you in the woods? Why are people who choose Deus Vult flags always the biggest retard son this board.

>>131648124
>He doesn't know about the right wing safety squads
How fucking new are you. That was this year you dumb asshole,

>>131656921
i'd guess most of the high-end bike riders in lycra types are probably wealthier gop voters, even in blue states

the majority of hipster/fixies and those like wolfpack hustle are just "left" because they're all edgy young hipsters types. their energy could definitely be more libertarian/right-leaning if they did a little more thinking

>>131657328
I don't browse halfpol very often.

>>131650529
> Places where there's the right infrastructure
The only place like that I've seen is your country, and there people go very fast on bike lanes and also drive scooters there. Having a helmet seems pretty important.

>>131653535
>That filename
I get it now, you're literally a fucking shitposter

>>131656151
well if they make the bike lane small enough so that a car cannot fit in it i don't see a problem

>>131657423
>Different ID
What did he mean by this.

Living in Tucson near the university sucks ass regarding cyclists. They lack regard for pedestrians and think they own the roads.

>>131650835

>new worlders on helmets

Especially the fact you all seem to think we don't wear helmets out of edgyness. My grandma doesn't wear a helmet on her E-bike at age 93.. Do you think she's just trying to be hard as well?

If you're riding a city bike (so sitting upright, without foot straps) in this country while obeying the traffic rules, you really need to put in some effort to fall on your head.. Racing and offroading are different, but for commuting its useless really.

>>131649172
i thought there is like 1% coal in steel?

>support people biking for health and environmental reasons
>Still get called names because I think bicyclists need to have stricter laws keeping them from doing all the stupid shit they do in traffic

>>131657496
no

>>131657563
Internet got cut off for a sec, dynamic IP.

>>131657219
No, that's not proving your point. Nobody wears them because nothing ever goes wrong.

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>>131647030
>bikes allow the rider to bike almost anywhere
>public transportation requires users to plan around the public transport
>bikes cost the rider money to purchase and maintain
>public transport uses other peoples' money to purchase and maintain
>bikes can increase a person's independency and self-support
>relying on public transport increases dependency on government and taxes

woah, really gets my noggin joggin

I used to think that bikes are a sign of a poor transport system. But now I live in a town with a very good bus and tram coverage and still lots of people use bikes. Bikes are cheaper (a yearly tram/bus pass is about 500 Euro, more than 40 per month) and faster for short trips. Overall I think it is good that bikes make extra competition for public transport. Prevents the companies from being too greedy with fares.

>>131647824
light rail is the true redpill

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>>131647785
You're clearly from the Right Wing Safety Squad.

>>131648994
Cyclists in the PNW should be rounded up and put in gas chambers

>>131647030
bikes are a jew trick to sterilize males and thin the herds of affluent whites (bike commuting is retardedly dangerous)

>>131649123
get a motorized scooter

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>>131650529
>Now now, it's good for a 5 year old to wear a helmet.
This is the start of the ending if you start acting like a scared kraut or yank.

A proper Dutch kid rides his bike in traffic without a helmet at 4 years old.

Never has the world invented anything as depressing as the thought of commuting with a bus.

The smell, the lowlifes and a ride that could not less comfortable. I don't bike but even that has to beat taking a coach.

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>>131657959
You do realize that you don't experience traffic accidents on a daily basis and prepare yourself for the RARE occasion of one in your life.
I have never been involved in a car accident, but don't wish for seatbelts and airbags to be removed from my car.

>>131658328
Nah, I prefer my bike.
Taking it for hourly rides with my friends is refreshing af.

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>>131647785

>>131657051
>ride separate from fast traffic

yeah, as far on the right side of the road (or left side for you euros) as you can safely manage.

Laws in most places dictate that cars should pass cyclists with AT LEAST 3 feet of space. If someone is unable to safely pass a cyclist while in a car, and thinks the cyclist is the problem, that person is a retard who should not have a license

>>131647977
Safety Squad.

You must be new here, friend.

Very new if you don't know about the Safety Squad.

>>131647785
sorry I'm not autistic

>>131658522
I would rather walk than bus anything under 3 miles

>>131647785
absolutely true. one of my old highschool teachers survived smashing his head into the ground because of his helmet. it broke into pieces and he recovered

>>131655669
Have them ride bicycles. there's a reason obesity is a problem in this country

>>131658515
>tfw i'll never have a wife so useful

public transport best transport

>>131652607
>Poorfag can't save up 8k.
Don't deserve to live. Says right there though I will make an exception. You are African after all and likely unable to read.

Alex Forrest / Train Twitter isn't a leftie. He's a based catholic distributist/traditionalist

>>131658543
not wearing a seatbelt saved my grandmas life

maybe you should be preparing for that rare occasion and cutting out all your seatbelts

>>131651615
Is she ok?!?!

>>131659365
elaborate

>>131647265
>a fucking jolly roger

>>131647785
>fall under an 18 wheeler
>Well at least I had a piece of plastic on my head

>>131659419
flew threw the windshield and walked away with minor injuries instead of being impaled

could be a different story for you if you wear death belts

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>>131658543
>I have never been involved in a car accident, but don't wish for seatbelts and airbags to be removed from my car.

Seatbelts and airbags don't deter from getting into your car and going. You don't need to store airbags and seatbelts in a safe and preferably dry spot when you park. Helmets are impractical as fuck for people who use bikes like the average Dutchman does.. Not even the prime minister wears a fucking helmet, even though he does unironically ride his bike to work through the Hague (a city actually considered unfriendly to bicycles by our standards).

>>131658634
>yeah, as far on the right side of the road (or left side for you euros) as you can safely manage.

Yes, but what I mean is ENTIRELY seperate. Physicially even, like I said. With cobbles or a curb keeping cars from encroaching on the bike lane and (probably more imporantly) discouraging brave and/or retarded cyclists from swerving onto the road..

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>>131647785
B-BUT IT'S SO UNCOOL MOMMY !

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>seattle: let's ruin city traffic with bike lanes and add $200 onto car tabs to accomodate the 10 assholes who ride bikes or use the shitty public transport

>>131658001
Also, people stay fit and healthy and rely less on healthcare. Lastly, busses need the same roads cars ride on, so how is it more efficient? Especially in less-populated areas.

>>131658515
be real klomp, they are not IN traffic, bike lanes all over flatterlands are set away from cars you tall faggot..

>>131659948
>1 bus takes up the same space as 2-3 cars
>1 bus can carry up to 20 people
>1 bus removes up to 20 cars off the road

>>131659817

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0GA901oGe4

You're welcome.

For some reason I find Americans that come over here to marvel at bike infrastructure hilarious to watch. Especially if they want to export it to places that DO NOT want to ride bikes.

>>131648168
You've got to give them so much fucking room and it fucks you up on s bends, going up hills, blind corners. You cannot expect people to slowly coast behind a cycling faggot either

>>131660162
that only works when no one has cars retard
everyone here takes a car everywhere due to the gigantic amount of sprawl, a majority of the people working in or near seattle live 20+ miles away

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>>131660085

>Bike lanes
>Not traffic

Obviously the system is made to keep bikes and cars seperate, but in city traffic they're going to inevitably meet..

>>131651845
That must be nice. In NOVA if they see you about to cross, whether you're on foot or on bicycle, a hundred yards ahead of them they throttle up to full speed to force you to not cross.

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>>131659626
>>fall under an 18 wheeler
>>Well at least I had a piece of plastic on my head

Alright, now let's count the infinite amount of other situations where only your head would have suffered from a direct collision.

>>131659742
injuries caused by wearing a seatbelt vs injuries caused by not wearing a seatbelt.

>>131659748
>You don't need to store airbags and seatbelts in a safe and preferably dry spot when you park.
Oh, so we're discussing the "specific situation problem" again?
Noone is going to arrest you for wearing a helmet. But if you're going to ride through an area with alot of traffic, you might as well wear one.
Riding through a safe place without a helmet was never an issue.

>Helmets are impractical as fuck for people who use bikes like the average Dutchman does..
How the fuck is a helmet impractical?

>Not even X wears a helmet
Proves literally nothing.

>>131659817
That's typical carfag butthurt. "Muh why can't I drive on a bus lane?" Isolated lanes make public transport or bikes more attractive, this reduces the number of cars and improves traffic.

>>131647030
>admits single occupancy cars are worse than bikes
>fails to mention that 90% of traffic in cities is single occupancy cars

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I can make it over 100 miles in half a day with no money.
also
>bicycles have the second lowest space utilization to single occupancy cars

Yeah no they take up slightly more space than a bus with the same amount of people and don't use gas

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>>131660085
There are a lot of them, but they're not everywhere. You still have to cross busy regular intersections and ride on normal roads a lot of the time.

>>131660286
>that only works when no one has cars retard
There are shitloads of cars in this country, do you have any idea how densely populated it is here?
>everyone here takes a car everywhere due to the gigantic amount of sprawl, a majority of the people working in or near seattle live 20+ miles away
Most people commute by car here as well. But if you use one for things within the city limits, it's generally far less efficient that grabbing a bike, which is why most people use both.

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>>131660467
see >>131660286
no one is going to ride a bike when no one lives close enough for it to be viable
eurofags trying to tell americans to use bikes is just stupid

>>131647030
Just because it's a kikebook meme doesn't mean it's made by a lefty.

Has anyone here ever sniffed a qt's bike seat?

>buses

Great. Now we can have outbreaks of deadly diseases and have to wear facemasks and gloves everywhere just like Asia

>>131647785
I know handfuls of bike messengers that dont own a helmet and ride thousands of miles a year without getting hurt. It's all about how well you ride if you get hurt its your fault for being stupid

>>131660897
I always smell and probably taste my wife's cunt and ass after we go for a good ride. Best smell.

>>131660897
http://www.news.com.au/world/japanese-man-stole-bike-seats-to-sniff/news-story/14e885f1438e68b7b235a765ee037884

Typical nips.

>>131660452
>Oh, so we're discussing the "specific situation problem" again?

Wut? Helmets are a pain in the ass because you can't leave them behind like you do your bike or car. What do you fail to understand about that point?

>How the fuck is a helmet impractical?

See above. You have to take them with you and/or store them somewhere, unlike parking them in 2 seconds like we do bikes.

>Proves literally nothing.

It proves that you don't need a helmet to survive cycling in this country. Also evidenced by the death-statistics... 189 cyclists died in 2016, and the number was lower before smartphones became widespread (don't text and ride, srsly). That's not a lot on 17.000.000 people.

>>131661074

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLe0cAhnpwo

Classic

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>tfw every day can be upper body day at the gym because you ride over 20 miles on the bike

It's a damn good feel lads, try it sometime

>>131656264
>And when you drive a bicycle, you'll never have a fatal fall

Implying you're immune to bad/distracted drivers. Please, please try getting hit by a car from behind without a helmet. We need fewer of your kind.

>>131660703

Close is relative, and the hostility many western cultures have towards bikes is hilarious to me.. Also, US sprawl and planning is hideous, I'll agree with you on that, but that still doesn't make it impossible to use a bike for any given number of destinations that are close enough.

>>131647985
You're missing out, I ride a bike, got hit by a school bus, didn't have any serious injuries, and got a lot of money.

>>131651196
alright lets just put this to bed once and for all:

BENEFITS OF CYCLING vs CARS (just off the top of my head)

1. ECONOMIC:
A. Saves taxpayer money because less destruction of road. Bicycles weigh 30-50 pounds. Cars weigh 3,000-5,000 pounds. Thats 100x more destructive to the asphalt for one car vs one bike. This means roads must be repaved more frequently with cars, which in turn means more wasted taxpayer dollars on the roads, and more wasted taxpayer dollars on the labor costs repaving.
B. Rider saves money in multiple ways: no gasoline, much cheaper maintenance fees (or none at all if you fix bike yourself), much lower initial cost (bikes cost $150 for decent used commuter - $5000 for high-end racing, while cars cost 2,500 for decent used commuter - $250,000 for high end luxury/racing).
C. Regular cyclists will have less health problems associated with obesity/cardiovascular/cancer than regular car commuters. This saves them money on healthcare premiums long term and saves taxpayer dollars if they have no health insurance and just use "free" ER.
D. Commuting time is a wash.
E. Less emissions from exhaust will be less health problems which will, again, save money on healthcare.
(CONT)

>>131661091
I just lock my helmet to my frame when I park but I guess you don't use locks either because the niggers in your country have evolved from stealing bikes to commiting securities fraud and building pyramids.

>>131661432

Please try getting hit by a car from behind with a helmet and see if you live... The vast majority of people that die on bikes in this country would not be saved by helmets, unfortunately.

>>131661530
>Bicycles weigh 30-50 pounds
what kind of uranium bycicle are you talking about

>>131661530

(CONT)
2. ENVIRONMENTAL
A. Bikes use less raw materials (probably roughly 100X less (weight is 100X less). This is a savings at the point of material creation/extraction, as well as shipping.
B. The production of a bike is less pollution at the manufacturing plant bc smaller, less materials, less complicated.
C. No gasoline for everyday use.
D. Less frequently repaving the roads is less pollution by repaving crews and less raw materials used.
E. Less health problems/serious accidents lead to less healthcare needs which is also a slight environmental savings in the form of less drugs/plastic/energy needed at hospital

3. PUBLIC HEALTH
A. Cyclists will have less cancer/obesity/cardio problems. This is a direct health benefit.
B. Cyclists will also cause less serious injury/fatality accidents than cars.
C. Cycling produces zero toxic exhaust from gas fumes. This will reduce cardio problems in urban areas (albeit slight effect).

4. PUBLIC WELFARE, QUALITY OF LIFE
A. Less cars on roads leads to less pollution
B. Roads will be less congested, there could be less road real estate period.
C. Less Health problems
D. Saved taxpayer dollars from road construction/healthcare can be used for other projects instead or merely lower taxes.
E. Smaller/less parking is more space for useful buildings, homes, parks, etc.

>>131661432
>Implying you're immune to bad/distracted drivers.
Yes, actually, because you can easily spot those if you're not a retard. Not my problem you're some mexican subhuman who couldn't have any situational awareness even if he tried.

>>131648168
A mile foot of road space gets used by way fewer people on a bike than for a car or something else. But yes, 6 bikes could ride in a car lane.

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>lowest road utilization efficiency
wat

>>131661432

then problem are bad drivers. i rather get hit by a bicycle than a car

>>131661678
whatever i'm just using the most conservative numbers imaginable so people don't go HURR DURR ERRM ACSHUALLY SOME BIKES ARE HEAVIER THAN.......

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>>131661432
I think a lot of the difference is cultural. Dutch drivers expect the roads to be full of bikes at all times.

For you guys it's out of the ordinary, I guess.

>>131661530
>Rider saves money in multiple ways: no gasoline, much cheaper maintenance fees (or none at all if you fix bike yourself), much lower initial cost (bikes cost $150 for decent used commuter - $5000 for high-end racing, while cars cost 2,500 for decent used commuter - $250,000 for high end luxury/racing).

You are a retarded commie. Imagine the economic impact if people stopped buying cars and just spent a couple hundred bucks on bikes? It would collapse the oil industry, auto industry and more, and we'd all get poorer. Learn economics you faggot

>>131661845
unless you're talking about a motorbike there's no way any bycicle weighs more than 10 pounds

>>131661845
but 50 goddamn lbs? Jesus christ it would made from concrete with gold wheels.

>>131661919
>It would collapse the oil industry, auto industry and more,

ohno.jpg

>>131661595
>I just lock my helmet to my frame when I park
I don't know where you live, but I'd wager you don't get as much rain as we do.
>but I guess you don't use locks either
Typically not chain locks, no, mostly just little brace locks attached to the frame of the bike itself that block the rear wheel. Chains and U-locks are only used when parking for extended periods of time for which you wouldn't typically leave your helmet for fear of rain or even piss. Railway station bike-lots attract junkies and scum like you wouldn't believe.
>because the niggers in your country have evolved from stealing bikes to commiting securities fraud and building pyramids.
No, they push drugs and shoot each other up like normal criminals... Bikes get stolen by junkies and drunk college students in need of a ride home.

>>131661819
>>131661765
>>131661799
>>131661432

all of you are correct and the only logical conclusion is that private car use should be banned from dense urban centers

>>131661452
>go to store: bike has no space to put groceries
>go to work: bike restricts you to <20mph
>go anywhere: bike gets stolen by niggers

>>131654014
And I as human I fucking hate other humans.

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>>131647030
>lefties are slowly becoming brainwashed into being actual fucking autocratic fascists

>>131661091
>Wut? Helmets are a pain in the ass because you can't leave them behind like you do your bike or car. What do you fail to understand about that point?
...Or you simply lock it to your fucking bycicle
what the fuck

>Also evidenced by the death-statistics... 189 cyclists died in 2016
1. How many of them were injured
2. How many muslim attacks were in Europe and why should you prepare for them if all that counts is death count.

Face the reality, not all accidents are are avoidable.
People don't just die because they aren't careful enough.

>>131647030
fuck bikers bruh, those pesky motherfuckers always sneak up in your blind spot no matter how many times you check it

If we're looking at this from a white nationalist/fascist standpoint, bikes are the obvious winner, simply due to a massive improvement in public health if more rode.

Seriously, so many of our problems can fully or partially be traced back to our fatass-ness. Can't have a strong, stable society with a bunch of fatass welfare and healthcare leeches.

Then there is the side effect that it would encourage actual smart, dense design.

>>131654916
>Helmet got destroyed though

It was designed to. I was looking up a few months ago if old steel milsurp helmets would work as a bike helmet as read that they are terrible for that, and that bit about real bike/motorcycle helmets being so much better

>>131659626
>have a nuke hit my country
>at least I wore a helmet, arm and knee pads, and a bright reflective jacket

Safetyfags have no rebuttal.

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>>131647030
Bicycle share programs and bike lanes are the latest in American liberal obsession with obsession of "being like Europe"

Rich libs travelled to Copenhagen and were impressed by the bike traffic and came home deadset on implementing that in North America in spite of all the other more pressing matters to the left ideology like homelessness, affordability and public transit.

These stupid cucks now have rows and rows of shitty bikes only tourists will use

Ha!! See there... The earth is clearly flat. Checkmate.

>>131661919

>arnacho-capitalist
>sucks government dick

your already poor consumertard, keep being a slave to your jew master and the FDR

>>131647030
I'm getting a bike now.

>>131661919
>>131661919
Not a commie at all.

>It would collapse the oil industry, auto industry and more, and we'd all get poorer.
>we'd all get poorer.
>we'd

I think you mean "THEY'D." THEY, as in oil/auto companies. The existence of enormous oil/auto companies are not necessary for a successful USA or a successful western world. What the fuck are you shilling about anyway?

>>131662039
no, the conclusion should be applying capital punishment to bad drivers

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fuck these faggots

Try hauling around groceries and those 2.5 blond haired blue eyed Aryan kids you are supposed to be having on a bike. Bikes are for kids and childless hipster faggots who are basically themselves children.

>>131661937
>>131661956
i usually ride a pretty large steel touring bike with two paneers loaded with some tools/books etc. I don't know, it definitely seems upwards of 35-40 pounds most days.

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>>131647985

>>131661452
>the hostility many western cultures have towards bikes is hilarious to me..
most people see bikes as a children's toy

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>>131662351
>Asteroid hits the earth.
>At least my doors and windows have locks on them.
Fucking safetyfags.

>>131647785
We need organs to harvest faggot

>>131662474
I actually have stocks in the oil and auto industry, as do most Americans with mutual funds. There is no they only us.

>>131662012
Well I'm actually pretty sure it does rain more where I live. We have a temperate rain forest a couple hours away. The helmet is usually already wet from riding in the rain.
As far as locks go we go pretty heavy in the states. I don't fuck around I use 2 hardened U locks, a cable, and locking axel skewers to secure both wheels and the saddle. No one has ever tried to steal my handlebars but I wouldn't be surprised in the least.

>>131647030
Cool link.

>>131647785
They have studies that show some accidents are worse because of the helmet rattling brains
They also found people ride their bikes much less carefully when they Have a helmet on

It's debatable whether those issues stack enough to show you shouldn't wear a helmet --but it shows there are good reasons not to

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>>131662104
>>go to store: bike has no space to put groceries
Depends on how much you shop, but you'd be surprised at how much shit Dutch people drag along even without resorting to meme-tier solutions like 'bakfietsen' (cargo bikes. think pedal powered pushcart)
>>go to work: bike restricts you to <20mph
I typically commute to work by car, but if I lived in this city definitely would ride my bike.. My gf does work in the city, but she's too lazy to ride a bike, so she has a scooter.. Which is legally limited at <20mph because that means a helmet isn't mandatory on it.
>>go anywhere: bike gets stolen by niggers
Get a decent lock, and don't get an expensive bike... It's a game of chance in this country, but odds are typically that yours isn't the one that gets taken.
>pic related

>>131653248
tfw nuFags can't triforce

>>131661452
20+ miles is not close.

>>131662275
this guy is starting to get it. see:
>>131661530
>>131661698


>>131662580
don't live so fucking far from your job you lazy ding dong. that's your choice

>>131662759
the only times I go grocery shopping is every few weeks to costco
you try fitting 50lbs rice, 20lbs chicken, 10lbs misc goods on a bike

>>131660452
lol an animeleafweebfag disguised as a nazi

Let me tell you something, you have to be able to ride a bike to talk shit about it.

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I hate bikefags in the city because they constantly switch between counting themselves as a vehicle or a pedestrian, whichever is convenient.

>hog lanes of traffic without at least keeping as far to the right as reasonable able
>LOL I'M A VEHICLE SHARE THE ROAD YOU FUCKING CAGERS!!!

>skirt around cars and between lanes of vehicles lined up at a traffic light
>hop over onto sidewalks when convenient and/or use pedestrian crosswalks
>ignore red lights, stop signs, and other traffic signals
>LOL I'M JUST A PEDESTRIAN OF COURSE I CAN DO ALL THESE THINGS HAHA!

Bikefags are the fucking worst. I hope they all get what they deserve on DOTR

>>131662938
No problem little man.

>>131662728
there is only they.

hahaha you must be acting purposefully obtuse if you actually believe this.

this is you:
>ZOMG WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THE HORSE AND BUGGY INDUSTRY GOES BANKRUPT!!!
>YOU GAIS WHAT IF THE TYPEWRITER AND PAPER INDUSTRIES GO BANKRUPT YOU KNOW HOW MANY AMERICANS HAVE STOCKS IN PAPER COMPANIES

the world changes ya dingus. cars running on oil (internal combustion engine) will...yes WILL...eventually be replaced by other technologies.

Furthermore, don't pretend that oild companies rely heavily on personal commuter cars at all. Oil companies would be absolutely fine if americans never bought another car again. What are airplanes, freighter ships, trains, hell all of plastic manufacturing, all factories, etc

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>>131662104
>>go to store: bike has no space to put groceries
lel

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>>131663182

>>131662606
Is he ok??????

>>131662220
>1. How many of them were injured
Many, but overall quite favorably in terms of international comparisons.. Safety is going down slightly in the past years, but my (entirely speculative, admittedly) feeling is that this is more due to cellphone use on bikes than anything else.
>2. How many muslim attacks were in Europe and why should you prepare for them if all that counts is death count.

If there were bikes among our bikes that were plotting to wilfully and intentionally murder is, I wouldn't speak so higly of them, believe me.

>>131662938
then you only need to drive a car every few weeks. simple as that. ride a bike every other day.

>>131658634
Vehicular laws concerning cyclists can dictate whatever they want but unless a cyclist is hit and the driver of the car doesn't speed off, they go entirely unenforced.

I live in a rural area and stopped riding on public roads because all the law can to is maybe charge a driver with a crime after I have already been hit, possibly killed.

>>131663260
Yeah. He is fine. Just a little scratch. He will be back to riding his bike in no time.

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>>131662580
See:
>>131658515

Also, ideally kids ride their own starting from age 5 onwards.

>>131649701
A car is like $1,000 dude

>>131663325

What if your job consists of driving around to construction sites all day?

>>131656151
Bike lanes are for your Uber to pull into and let you and your 10 roastie friends flood in to traffic.

>>131663325
>spend $100+ on a bike
>waste a few weeks of fuel money on a useless toy

>>131663416
a shitbox maybe

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>>131663258

>>131647785
>when your autism is so strong it becomes a (you) generator

I skateboarded all the time as a teenager intoxicated, I never needed a helmet. If you learn how to control your body you will never need it either.
Just get good you unfit fatass piece of shit

>>131663513
Every car made after the 1940's is shit

ayo bikes is white privlij n sheeit

>>131662220
>People don't just die because they aren't careful enough.

But mostly they do, after the launch of electric bikes every demographic group got less fatalities, except for old people. They are the only group where there has been an increase in deaths in 5 years. And as someone who makes quite some miles on a bike here, I can tell you old people ride bikes like shit, even worse than middleschool children.

Leftism isn't a philosophy. It's a state of constant criticism and smugness. As soon as one liberal policy is enacted, it's not good enough and needs to be torn down with some thing evwn more insane. Do not give them a single inch.

>>131663452
then congrats you're in the probably %0.1 of people who actually need a motor vehicle to do their job.

but if you aren't personally bringing tools/materials, then you could just as easily bike to construction sites if your tools are there already

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>>131663642
Right there's like a million ways to carry damn near anything on a bike.

>>131663469
you forgot

>save thousands of weeks of fuel money forever

>>131661919
> Imagine the economic impact if people stopped doing column addition and just spent a couple hundred bucks on an arithmometer?
> Imagine the economic impact if people stopped growing and training horses and just spent a couple hundred bucks on steam wagons?
> Imagine the economic impact if people stopped shooting bows and just spent a couple hundred bucks on musket?

It is fucking time that oil industry collapses and we stop funding Middle Eastern wars with our money. Not going happen any time soon though.

>>131662977
Lurk more, newfag.

>>131663265
That's your call, I am still all for wearing helmets when riding for longer than half a km.

>>131663686
>fatties
>riding bikes
yeah right, take my flag off you embarrassment.
Underage drinking is far worse than driving without a helmet.

>>131663766
"liberalism is a disease" is accurate

>>131663469
>$100
>a few weeks of fuel money

Right in the wallet.

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>>131662938

The only thing you ever do in life is buying copious amounts of rice and chicken?

Anyway, 80 pounds of goods is only about 35kg. That's nothing. People carry 100-pound fat bitches around on bikes here every single day.. Something like pic related, possibly with a bag or 2 on the back carrier should cover it.. I mean, if you really wanted too.

>>131663895
nigger I'm not about to drop my comfortable car for a bike I have to sweat to get me anywhere

>>131663895
and

>not being a lazy fatass that needs an electric scooter in the grocery store to buy Doritos and Mt. Dew

>>131663984
>yeah right, take my flag off you embarrassment.
>Underage drinking is far worse than driving without a helmet.
I'm sorry you're an unfit autistic who doesn't have the experience to tell your children why things are wrong and right.

Post a picture of yourself right now. By the way, you aren't redpilled if you don't lift. I'm sure you won't because you're a degenerate excuse for a person.

>>131648307
>Only one water bottle cage, has >reflectors.
Fucking casuals

>>131662759
> Does not ride a bike.
> Shills for bikes on /pol.

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>>131647030
I hate these commies with a passion
A bicycle is literally the best transport in a city, e-bikes and electric scooters are also good and you don't give up your autonomy unlike public transport.

People with disabilities are a minority not a huge swath of the population, they can ride the bus if they want to.

>limited range
Even an of shape person can do their commute on a bike, and if you're regularly stuck in traffic with a car you'll also be faster on the bike
I do 40-70km every day on a bicycle.

>bike vs car.
Why not both.gif
Short trips are always faster by bike. I always run small neighborhood sized errands on my bike. And then I have my car for when I need to go far.

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>>131663814
>can't carry chicken and rice and milk and protein powder

>>131663642
>>131663814

Americans tend to go full-meme with it though.. Cargo bikes are nice if you're a fucking street vendor or ride 3 kids around like some Amsterdam-South soccermom, but besides that they're typically a bit over the top. A rack on the front and a decent set of backs on the back should cover most people's daily affairs.

>>131647529
They should put them as close to accessible, curbless street crossings as possible. That way, when I run some fixie-fag over as he crosses against the light, they can park the mangled mess of his bike safely while he's fitted for a wheelchair. Then he can come and visit as he proselytizes the virtues of not being a entitled, bearded craft-beer swiller on a bike between tearful memories of when his dick and legs worked.

>>131664256
Even living and working in the suburbs, I had only a bike for a couple of years.

But they don't want the goyim to save money, better for them to go into debt.

>>131664256
You'll find it's the commies pushing for bicycles as transportation, not the other way round. Nothing worse than some grown man riding a bike like a sissy ass beta.

Be a real man and get a car/truck, not some faggy little bike. Literally kids toys, they do NOT belong on the road.

>>131664255
>> Does not ride a bike.
I do, but not for everything. I ride for trips in town (or walk because I'm really quite close to most shops) and I ride to the station when I take the train..
>> Shills for bikes on /pol.
I just find it peculiar so many people are outright hostile towards the idea of riding a bike from A to B.

>>131664560
>Arguing for a wasteful, debt-filled, unhealthy lifestyle

Remove that flag

>>131664049
thank you. the first honest car argument in this thread.

>>131664670
>I just find it peculiar so many people are outright hostile towards the idea of riding a bike from A to B.

See:

>>131664560
>Be a real man and get a car/truck, not some faggy little bike. Literally kids toys, they do NOT belong on the road.

Why are you so angry m8?

Only faggots don't own both a car and a bike. Like really. If I'm going to the park for some fresh air on a nice summer day nothing is more pathetic than seeing people drive to the fucking park and then walk around at the park. Like what the fuck.

>>131664162
I don't take pics of myself because I am not a degenerate kikebook/ instajew user.
I don't even own a fucking mobile phone from this decade.

Nice ad hominem, though.
You know when you're such a pathetic loser when the only reasonable argument you have is comparing statistics to personal experience.
>uhhhhhh i didnt die while i was riding while intoxicated, so that proves you wrong

>I'm sorry you're an unfit autistic who doesn't have the experience to tell your children why things are wrong and right.
Yeah, I should have definitely drunk a few cans of beer in my youth while riding my bike to tell my children whether it is good or not, retard.

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>>131664716
>has the flag of an ideolgy that lost to capitalism

Doesn't get much more pathetic than this folks.

>>131664813
His parents probably never loved him enough to get him a bike.

>>131647030
Bikes are literally perfect urban and even suburban transportation.

>>131664560
literally can't make an argument so just says "sissy" and "beta."

looks like you're the true commie here pushing for more gov't dependence and more big gov't wars for israel/oil. good goy

>>131664993
>says the fucking leaf

How do you even get traction on the ice with those skinny little tires? I'll stick with my F150 thank you very much.

>>131664878
>Has the flag of an ideology that literally can't exist because it doesn't work.
Oh I dunno, think it's quite possible to get more pathetic.

I ride my fucking bike to work every day, I despise the boomers who dress up like Lance Armstrong and block traffic, I try my best to not block traffic and most the time there is a path where I don't have to ride it on the road.

The US should seriously try to make shit bike accessible. Inb4 muh public transportation, it's literally awesome to be able to get there for free and get some exercise in.

>>131664393
I agree just pointing out options for large loads. I had a homemade cargo bike that was basically purpose built for hauling a huge sound system but it did end up coming in handy for other things like buying a used AC, motorcycle parts, or passengers. It was ok for camping trips too. Not essential at all but it was fun to have.

>>131664560
>I am totally not an emasculated cuck trying to compensate for anything at all

>>131665061
>pushing for more gov't dependence

Wrong. The government is the one pushing bicycles to fix (((climate-change))). I say, I don't give a fuck and I'll drive my truck as much as I darn well please.

Problem, commie?

As a liberal myself, I can say that many other liberals only hold liberal values when a) it doesn't interfere with their wallet or time b) it validates their ego or c) it gives them an enemy to rally around

This is why so many liberals are against nuclear energy/GMO crops.

>>131664543
There are huge health benefits to cycling, and it saves money.

>>131664560
Yes goym give the Saudis your money so they can build more mosques in Europe.
Who are you trying to impress?

>>131647030
Bikes are anti-disabilities.

>>131664878
>lost to capitalism

disagree. it wasn't "capitalism" it lost to, per se, but the fact that it was outmanned/outnumbered probably 10,000 to 1 (germany/italy/hungary/japan vs USA, UK, France, Russia, the rest of the fucking world etc etc etc).

in other words, it wasn't "capitalism" that won the war, it was sheer quantity of humans/resources.

>>131665129
The streets are clear like 8 months out of the year.

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>>131647785
>>131647785
holy fuck the edge of these replies.
>le too hardcore for protecting my fucking brain from permanent vegetable-injury
And I thought the average age on here was 18+

>>131665359
>it wasn't "capitalism" that won the war, it was sheer quantity of humans/resources.

Capitalism is by far the most efficient way of obtaining quantities of resources.

So yes, it was capitalism.

>>131658073
Yeah but he's Irish so he's got the Luas red line, scummiest transit line in the country.

>>131664872
Experience makes the man, you are only using a strawman for my whole point.

You will never need a helmet if you know how to ride a bike, skateboard, etc. I understand why someone as a teenager would use drugs and alcohol from my own perspective so I know best how to prevent it and tell the youth WHY they shouldn't, not just because "It's degenerate because I said soo!"
Pro-tip: Telling your kids something is degenerate but not giving any detailed insight as to why something is wrong won't do you any good, trust me.

You're a skinnyfat autist who probably grew up on /a/ who thinks he can preach about what people shouldn't do (WEAR HELMETS OR ELSE) lmao.

>>131650164
>what kind of infrastructure do you need?
Same that pedestrians have. Dedicated roads with no car traffic on them.

>>131665290
you are the commie depending on big gov't to fight wars for you. gov't isn't pushing bicycles in any meaningful way, bike coalitions are. you apparently don't know anything about local/regional politics. go to some town halls sometime and you'll see that it's not "big govt" or "commies" pushing cycling, it's bike coalitions - cyclists who want more cycling infrasructure in their cities. it's as simple as that. they run the political/ideological gamut. i agree they might be "forcing their way of life (cycling)" on others, but it's definitely not "commies" or "gov't" in any meaningful way, it's just politically motivated cyclists.

>>131665477
It's hilarious.
>I shouldn't wear a helmet because it doesn't protect against ALL dangers therefore there's no point.
Yet I bet these people still lock their doors at night even though that doesn't prevent people smashing their windows instead, or ramming the door down, or driving a truck into the wall.
/pol/ really is a tryhard underaged board these days.

AHAHAHHA LOL ALL THESE AMERIFATS TELLING EVERYONE TO WEAR HELMETS.

In the netherlands only leftist faggots wear helmets and some overprotecting parents. Grow up burgers, and become a man.

>>131664543
vehicle cost is noise compared to health insurance, property tax. Crack those nuts first.

>>131665193

Ikea rents them out in some cities here for 2,50 an hour.

>>131665666
Cyclists are using the government to spend MY money on cycle lanes which I don't use and actively HOLD ME UP when I'm driving my truck.

Give me one reason why I should support that shit?

>>131661530
>D. Commuting time is a wash.

LEL

>>131647030

Would drive the biggest american muscle car to piss off eurocucks

>>131665648
>You will never need a helmet if you know how to ride a bike, skateboard, etc.
>Accidents aren't a thing.
>Other people being retarded and putting you in danger isn't a thing.

>>131665753
Toothpaste is right

>>131665939
>accidents aren't a thing
>implying a piece of plastic on your head in these rare cases will actually help you most of the time

>>131657051
>You need to be able to ride seperate from ANY traffic.
Fixed. Even 5 mph car running over fallen cyclist will squash his body into bloody mush. You don't have cars on sidewalks and pedestrians on roads. Same should be for bikes.

>>131665477
>>131665748


Why don't you wear helmets when you walk?

>>131665835
Same reason I have to pay property tax for schools I don't use.

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You know something always bothered me about movies and shit in post-apocalyptic settings.

How come they never fucking use bikes? They will always use a car or walk. Never use a bike.

A bike is smaller and easier carry, plus compared to a car, easier to maintain and requires less parts to repair. They're also pretty commonplace.

Now the downsides is that it's still slower than a car and it still paints a big target on you. But I'd argue a car would too, since you're living in a vastly depopulated world, so the sound should be easier to hear when you're driving down broken down roads.

>>131665530
that may be true, but looking at wwii specifically (which was the point of your post), germany would've wiped the floor EASILY, if they were only outnumbered 10 to 1 or even 50 to 1. They marched right through "capitalist" france, uk, hell all of europe. It was COMMUNIST Russia and their seemingly infinite numbers of soldiers that stalled hitler into a stalemate.

do you even know wwii history at all?

i'm not retarded enough to say that "communism beat nazism" (even though, in a sense, it did, if viewing merely the nazy/russian theater). yet you seem ignorant enough to think it was american "capitalism" that "beat" hitler.

it was "communist" russia that "beat" hitler, but even that is inaccurate/incomplete.

given the overwhelming disparity of numbers, it seems hitler's nazism was far better at resource efficiency and military production than either american capitalism or russian communism. they were simply outnumbered thousands of times over.

just learn some basic wwii history plz

>>131665648
You are not my child.
I am not trying to lecture you about drugs.

It is better to think about something, than to experience and regret it.
I still want my children to make wrong experiences, because that's the only way they grow up.
Why are you taking this conversation out of context?

Driving your bike with a helmet and w/o one does not give you two entirely different experiences.
I would never want my children to be involved in a deadly accident, either.

Also, stop with the fucking ad-hominem, you're wasting your time with lies you're telling yourself.
Which country are you posting from?

>>131666195
Bikes don't look cool.

>>131665290
>complaining about government dependence
>literally dependent on government roads being in drivable condition
>literally dependent on government propping up the auto industry
>literally dependent on government regulated healthcare for his fifth coronary bypass due to being a lardass

whew lad

>>131666195
Shh don't tell em, let em be as unprepared as possible.

>>131657657
That is the carbon content. The amount of coal required is significantly higher.

>>131665835
I don't use bike lanes but would you rather they be driving where you're stuck behind them or driving beside them?

>>131666003
>It's not 100% protective against all dangers so there's no point bothering.
Do you refuse to lock your doors at night because it's not 100% protectice against burglary so there's no point bothering?

>>131666068
>Why don't you wear helmets when you walk?
Because I don't walk in the fucking road and bikes go faster than walking, retard.

>>131665835
because there are other humans in your country besides you who also pay taxes.

are you actually this retarded?