Welcome to 2020 libtards

California will be red if Trump somehow passes a national voter ID law.
t. commiefornian

>>131641566
What are the chances of this happening? A voter ID law sounds like something that would cause massive chimpouts. Buildings burnt down, people getting shot in the streets, stores being looted, etc.

The spics would not leave quietly.

>>131641679
Fake and gay.

>>131641679
>texas going blue
Sadly this is actually possible. Spics breed like cockroaches

>>131641678
Knowing my fellow commiefornians, 0 chance. Everyone there is retarded

>>131641566
Checked. I've wondered about this. Can you imagine the looks on MSM faces if that ever happened? We might actually get an on air anchor suicide.

Depends on who he's ruining against.
But it he never builds the wall and doesn't bring back manufacturing jobs like he said, a lot of his supporters won't vote for him; they won't be as enthusiastic about him, which is partially why Clinton lost in 2016.

>>131641899
Actually if he accomplishes the wall and other campaign promises, what else is there for him to do? What would be his campaign platform if he already accomplishes what he set out to do?

>>131642068
If he does achieve all what he set out to do in 4 years.. then people will want him to stay and achieve other goals because they see that he actually does what he says he will do.

>>131642068
make america great again again

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>>131640024

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Illinois area can only go red if it is devolved. Also CO is lost.

>>131641679
>TX blue
lol. I can't believe you fags keep pushing this retarded narrative.

>>131642068
Space Elevator then manned missions to find obolisks on Phobos moons

>>131641679
NH will go red. Calling it

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PA and FL will flip blue in a minor "blue wave". Minnesota will continue its trend toward red and flip.

>>131642293
whoa, made me think

>>131642250
that's a great 2020 slogan anon.

>>131641819

Not by 2020, though. Maybe 2024. Assuming the Dems haven't collapsed.

>>131640024
Just wait when whites will be minority.

>>131641679
You are not even American you stupid fuck

>>131642686
FL won't.

When the Left inevitably spits out the "hurr durr he spent time at Mar Largo every weekend", Trump can spin that into loving Florida.

Minnesota, Colorado will stay blue.

In close races, Florida stays Red.

Virginia and Illinois are lost, will always be blue.

With economic growth, even a 100% hostile press and everyone under 28 voting for a Libtard, Trump will easily win the next election.

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fixed the map

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>>131642293
>(((artist))) unironically believes that was Trump's reaction to winning
Here's a more accurate picture.

>>131643218
Always thinking of the road ahead.

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pic is the real 1984 Reagan re-election map. unbelievable, isnt it?

>>131643704
What's in Minnesota?

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>>131641678
bring it on

>>131643760
The candidates homestate

>>131643760
Naivety

>>131643760
1/32th Swedes

>>131642946

All MN needed was 12k votes in the presidential election and it would have turned red anon.

>>131644069
that's a lot of brown people m8

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>>131640024
That... is a beautiful sight.

>>131643760
Swedes and Somalians.

The map goes almost all Red when the FreeShitArmy and the productive people are all suffering from too much government.

Oldfags remember the Carter years. Crushing taxes, gas lines, business-killing regulations, racial tensions, the US getting laughed at overseas.

It was the same during Obama, but everyone thought things were going great because 99% of the media worshiped the first negro president.

People forget how bad the Dems are. They want "change" which means always higher taxes, fewer jobs and racial tensions.

Hopefully the Trump recovery will last at least 8 years.

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>>131640024
Basically all that matters will be whether or not Trump will be able to keep the trust of the people from that midwest that came out to vote for him. He's already going to do better in the suburbs since the stock market is soaring like never before, so if he keeps his blue collar supporters too he might even win Minnesota as well as everywhere else he won in 2016.

Florida will also matter a lot, but Florida always matters.

"The best vision is 20/20"

-Stefan Molyneux

>>131641566
How on earth is that even an issue? How can you possibly vote without ID, I can't even find a metaphor for how stupid that is. And I really do not understand how anyone can be against such a change?

>>131640024
While nothing will be sweeter than election night 2016, this would be a close second, seeing Trump not only win again, but win with an even bigger margin than before. Those salty liberal tears will be delicious.

>>131641899
>>131644454

basically this. Trumps reelection completely depends on whether or not he keeps his promises, which I guess might be good actually, since if he's smart he won't kike out on us.

>>131644804
Really only the Democratic party is against it, because a huge portion of their voter block is made up of illegals. A lot of our media panders to the Democratic party, and a lot of people in our country are controlled by the media, so they've convinced everyone that voter ID laws would be racist.

Ironically, by saying it's racist, you're racist by implying that mexicans and blacks can't get IDs.

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>>131641679
>Texas
>Blue

At least learn about a country before you post about it.

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>>131640024
>But muh red map

Land area =/= population distribution you morons

Electoral college is fake news

>>131644804

Voter ID is racisss

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>>131641679

A FUCKING TOOTHPASTE

>>131645417
It really makes no fucking sense though. Would it be like telling people that our gypsies can't vote because they are dirt poor and can't afford ID. (That would be if they were actually poor, and actual citizens).

Even then, as you say, it's rather racist to imply that non-whites are all stupid poor people who can't get an ID. And it still makes no sense to let people vote without identifying as citizens. I can't wrap my head around anyone defending this with any valid reasons

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>>131641679
Not yet

>>131642686
Why would FL turn blue when it's the favourite retirement place for white seniors?

>>131646637
but we won

>>131642686

Wrong.

>>131640024
WINNING

>>131646637
Well then, call a constitutional convention and get 3/4ths of the states to agree with you to get it changed.

>>131641819
You're retarded. Hispanics are more red pilled than whites and thus starting to turn away from Democrat. Fucking faggot

>>131646637
I don't believe that this is 50% of the US. In most states, it's not even 50% of the state population (TX, SC, NC, VA, MO, WI, MN, OR, UT, NM, CO, AL, GA, KY, OH, ID).

>>131646906
Irrelevant

I'm saying that this whole "red map" "blue map" talk is backed by the thought that land area accounts for more votes. Which is an ignorant thought.

>>131647073
Dude let's be honest here, spics in TX vote D+30. The Hispanic males may be slightly more based (41R to 52D, could get split), but the females vote like gibsmedats.

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>>131647073
yeah no.

>>131640024
50% of Commiefornia votes should be counted toward Mexico's next election.

>>131643859
He ran for Senate in Minnesota afterwards and lost, therefore becoming the only person ever to lose an election in every state

>>131646452

best state and best people, all hail texas

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>>131640024

>mmmmm mmmmmm,
>hell naw
>*sucks teeth*
>move ova, nina palozi or wuteva yo name iz!
>*rolls eyes*
> when i become da new leader of da democrat pawty, we gunna kill all u whyte bois!
>*spits*
>*snaps fingers*
>*rolls neck*
>*levitates into floating pyramid*
>*flies pyramid to washington*

This joke of a coastal libtard city fringe party is finished. The modern democrat party is effectively a joke and a handful of coastal states and counties haven't gotten the punchline yet.

Good job electing a commie nigger and losing over 1,200 seats of elected offices since 2010 and suffering one of the most embarrassing electoral landslide defeats in history the same day that your media claimed your candidate had a 90% of winning, dems.

>>131647317
I guarantee you no more than 5% of that crowd voted.

Only the ones who vote matter.

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>>131646906

>>131641678
>rioting because you got caught
>voter fraud is a non-issue
hmmm

>>131642293
imagine being this asshurt that you lost

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it's over trump...

>>131647726
zo jammer dat die getallen geen fuck uitmaken in de amerikaanse verkiezingen ofniet

>>131646895
(((white))) seniors

>>131647073

Hispanics may be slightly conservative in terms of social policies but love socialism and almost always vote heavily Democrat for gibs.

>>131646804
the best part is they think theyre being sneaky when they make that argument, like everyone cant see through it

>>131647261
Sounds like this is a female problem

>>131648401
A female non-white problem.

>>131647317
>they think trump is jimmy carter
do indios really think all whites look the same

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>>131647939
You wish faggot, college student here and trump supporter AND I didn't even vote (but I will vote for him next time!) There are more of us than you would like to accept hahaha

>>131647895
J-Jeb surge?

>>131648527
are you trying to imply that florida is not crawling with retired jews? even normalfags know that, maybe drop out of college

>>131641566
This can't really happen at the federal level.

>>131642802
Dude I'd be surprised if they made it to 2018 at the rate they are going. No platform, the new voting block hates pc fags, corruption is rampant, can't seem to win an election even after and R body slams a reporter, with a law suit that could bankrupt them.

>>131648080
Moving forward you're going to see that change next election.

Hispanics are becoming middle class and we hate ghetto broke bois too.

>>131640024

What is the pink?

>>131648677
I only want castizos in the new republican party tbqh, even that is a stretch. indios will stab us in the back at their earliest convenience. the strength of the right wing in america is that it is racially homogeneous, we dont have the same problems democrats do of fracturing along coalition lines and trying to please every degenerate interest group.

>>131646637
Ok listen here you little shit
>electoral college is biased
Yes
>It makes a vote from a rural bumfuck in Wyoming more "valuable" than a citynigger in LA or Chicago
Yes
>this is a bad thing
No!!! Not because of any /pol/ reason but because it enables the voice of the rural people to be heard. It enables the USA to have a diverse (yes DIVERSE) number of people to be heard so that a MINORITY has their interests represented. It prevents a tyranny of the majority, the majority in this case being dems in big cities

>>131642503
I dunno, I've heard that you shouldn't fuck around on Phobos.

>>131644804
Because that's 'murica and they love freedom you fascist communist Nord

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>>131648845
Pretty gay of you to think that way.

Doesn't matter tho. After Trump the Libertarian party is coming up.

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>>131641678

Voter ID laws are vital... I mean your not in support of Russia's continuing interference in our elections are you?

>>131648663

Plus IL going bankrupt and now Barney Sandals under investigation for fraud

>>131646804
The logic behind it doesn't matter, the dems want votes from browns... so it is racist

>>131649058
>libertarian party
the libertarians were just destroyed by ron fail and all defected to the alt right, amigo. there arent any left, they're all fascists now because they realized the only people who give a fuck about small government and individual liberty are white men. they realized that they cant have what they want outside a white republic. its over for the anti authoritarian right, we fascist now.

>>131641819
The spic birth rate has been dropping like a rock though and immigration keeps going down. Deportations are being revved up too.

>>131648865
>Defending the electoral college

I agree that we should make sure every voter matters but the electoral college doesn't even do that. People that we DON'T EVEN VOTE FOR cast votes for us. And guess what? They don't even HAVE to vote for what their states decided. They can literally change their vote and there's nothing we can do about it. Stop supporting an outdated system. The electoral college needs to be changed.

>>131648785
Take what you've got in the stink and double it.

>>131649595
no, electors would never defect enough to change the result of an election because they'd get whacked. if they didnt defect for BARNOLD BINTHF then theyre not going to in the future

God dammit don't jinx shit. The overconfidence of the libs is what lost them the election. Don't fall in our own trap.

>>131640024
I do think Trump should win in 2020 pretty easily for a few reasons.

>1. Historically, incumbents usually win
>2. The Dems have no good candidates. The presumptive favorites right now (Warren, Harris, Booker) are all batshit insane
>3. Fewer illegal aliens in the country = fewer Democratic voters

Obviously a lot can happen in the next three years, but if Trump is merely adequate, he should be re-elected in a relative landslide.

>>131649467
????

You think cause your party has survived off a two party game forever they're untouchable?

Please.

Religion is wack and so are almost all your stances on policy too.

Everyone will be independent soon and you'll cry "but muhfascism"

>>131643218

That guy looks like someone just shat in his cereal.

Meanwhile Trump Jr. just came in his pants.

>>131640024
>illinois
What? That state is fucked

>>131644236
no difference between the two

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>>131647072
You guys should make an effort to make Slavery legal again.

Slavery becomes legal again if two thirds of the congress vote it in and 38 state legislatures agree.

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>>131649531
In TX, it's still a lot higher than the white one but not by the giant margins it was before.

I genuinely don't think Trump will win the next time around. It was a lot of fun when he did win this time, and I've never had more fun with /pol/ than the after-party, but I honestly don't think even the deepest meme-magic can make this lightning strike twice.

>>131647073
Hispanics have much better work ethic and family values than a demographic like blacks, this why 30% of them voted for Trump. However so long as they have extended family who are illegals, they will vote democrat, and they'll keep voting that way until they are the majority CA (already there), TX, AZ, and NM. Then that trend will continue for 15-20 more years until they realize the democrats are no longer useful to them, and they'll switch to republican. By then the damage will have already been done though, they are not worth the risk.

>>131651108
>retard actually believes in meme magic
Meanwhile, in the actual world, voter patterns changed in favour of Republicans.

>>131643218
>oh fuck, now I need to actually work.

>>131651341

Except Trump didn't win on voters.

>>131648617

Yes it can.
See: American civil war

>>131651363
In fairness, it is the shittiest job in the country and he knew he was in for a mountain of bullshit for probably the rest of his life. He probably perceives himself as taking one for the team here, since he could have just retired and golfed and shit.

>>131651650
He got an additional 2 million voters compared to Romney and with that the highest amount of votes a Republican has ever gotten.
He gained totals in about every single state.

>>131641679
Even after losing most of their stronghold the dems could be one state from victory, what a damn shame

Colorado will definitely not be red. Theres no fucking hope for this place.

>>131651720
I guess, it's just that it's a funny picture is all.

>>131651976
Democratic strongholds are CA, NY, NJ, HI, VT and MA, the rest aren't D+20% margins either.

>>131647614
You really don't know what a landslide is do you? I'll give you a hint, it doesn't involve loosing the popular vote by the population of a small state

>>131652313
There is no universally accepted defintion for the word landslide. Reagan once defined it as an electoral victory with over 300 electoral votes, which Trump achieved.

>>131641566
California will be extinct after the civil war; split between Jefferson and Deseret.

>>131652432
Reagan never lost the popular vote.
Whatever your definition of landslide is, it doesn't include losing by 3m votes

>>131652782
My definition (and Reagan's) are winning more than 300 electoral votes, which Trump did, therefore he won in a landslide. The popular vote does not matter in your country because you have a first-past-the-post system on a large scale, which is bound to sometimes give you funny results.

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If the Dems select a good hip candidate like Tulsi Gabbard the map could look like this.

>>131641819
>>131642412
Plus loyalty to the Hillary-loving Conservative-hating Bush family

>>131653472
t. Spencer

>>131641566
Too many anchor babies

>>131653619
No a single Republican who voted for Romney in 2012 voted for Hillary. Trump even beat Romney's total margin by 100k.

>>131652782
of which 6m sre illegals

>>131648785
It means that it was a close match

>>131646787
Did your ban expire you snake fucker?

>>131644069
Wew lad

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>m-muh popular vote
fucking lol
goobers are still here parroting this?

>>131641819
Spics in the US have a birth rate of 2.0 in 2017 down from 3.0 in 2000 there growth has slowed tremendously in recent years. Texas is stagnant even if majority non white and has voter ID trump has 35-40% spic support too so good luck. And even though I'm a self hating yankee from the northeast who rags on these states Maine and NH will be red, and Vermont will be closer Minnesota and Nevada too homie. And New Mexico was close too.

>>131653472
She will have nothing to run on but gun control and female power. Oh plus anti war but what war is taking place?

>>131653472
>Tulsi Gabbard
You realize they hate her and would never give her any power? Damn you guys really are delusional. Can't wait for 2020.

>>131640024
As an Oregonian, I can assure you that Oregon can be flipped. Despite having Portland, we are nowhere near as lefty as WA and CA. Less than two decades ago we elected Republicans to the U.S. Senate. Geographically speaking, 3/4 of the state is hard right. Salem, our second largest city and state capital is a stronghold of moderate conservatives and voted for Trump in 2016.

>>131641819
tejanos don't like faggotry though

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>>131640024
the only valid map

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>>131643760
Minneapolis/St. Paul controls our elections. Outside of that area Minnesota is pretty republican these days..the time is coming for the flip.

>>131660818
minnesota would be trump if it wasn't for egg mcmuffin

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>>131640024
NY is getting redder and redder, if King Cuomo & Dutchess De Blasio lose re-election (they most likely will) then NY has a good chance of being at the very least a toss-up

Pic related is a county map from 2016 showing a massive GOP swing

t. Jew Yorker

>>131661172
>That light blue area is enough to flip an entire state

I genuinely thing that large enough cities should be made into city-states.
NY, Chiraq, San Fran and LA could all be made into their own city states

>>131662212
Scot just back from NY
That blue area has like 7 million people in it keep in mind.
Holy fuck the amount of niggers in NY is insane, most beggars, Harlem is like a fucking zoo and Washington Heights is like a chink town.

>>131660818
Wow, he won the counties with 10 000 people in them

>>131642383
Illinois will go read after Kanye picks up a lot of the Chicago vote running as an independent candidate

>>131640024
Blue state is such a meme, it should be mandatory to show the county by county map. Only cities full of shit people go blue.

>>131640024
>NM
He can just deport enough illegals and flip it.

>>131641678
Trump needs to use the troops to start Operation Wetback II !! Half of California's population is illegals and the children of illegals.

This is my prediction. Arizona and Pennsylvania will go blue, Alaska will elect their governor or whatever because he'll probably run, Virginia will flip red. I have a feeling Florida will flip blue, and if that's the case, we're going to have no winner and it'll go to Congress to be decided. Now, Republicans will likely still have a majority, so Trump would probably win if this was the case.

I'm putting high odds on Trump winning popular vote.

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>>131664191
Fuck, forgot to map it

>>131664191
Won't the numbers change in 2020 due to the census or is that 2024?

>>131664399
I've no clue. At any rate, that's the states that I think he'll win.

>>131662212
If Trump does well now he can win over most White Flighters, and implementing ID laws would guarantee a red NY. This is why cryin Chuck is being such an obstructionist, though it may end up biting him in the ass

A bit of background; NYC started going down the tubes in the 70's and a good chunk of Whites packed up and moved to the surrounding counties. The vacuum they left was filled in by spics. Bear in mind NYC proper is still 45% White, which is a tragedy, but not all the boroughs are as cucked as Manhattan.

>>131662934
>Manhattan
>New York
Wew, it's full of Libtard scum from around the West and illegals. No genuine New Yorkers live there. I have to resist the urge to slap every foreign cunt who says they're a New Yorker (ala HRC).

Not to mention De Blasio's reign has seen the city take another nosedive. It's okay because Queens and Brooklyn are being re-settled by Whites

>7 million in that little blue
Don't be ridiculous Manhattan has 1.6 million people. All Trump would have to do is flip Queens or Nassau to make the state a toss-up

>>131641566
Do underage people vote due to the lack of voter id laws

>>131664474
Why do you think Arizona will go blue?

>>131664591
It's very close as it is. Lots of Mexibros in Arizona, too. I mean, I could be wrong, I'm not psychic.

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>2020
>Illinois still existing

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>>131664898
ILfag here
>he's right we're done

>>131644804
LAND OF THE FREE
YOU RACIST BASTARD

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>>131646804
Mexico actually has stricter voting laws than the US does lol

>>131664191
lol and why would that happen?

>>131665624
which state will get Chicago when Illinois eventually broken up? Will the government just wall it off and let it die?

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>>131641566
California won't have to be red if we somehow get Jefferson.

>>131642383

Yeah, Wisconsin is not going to want Chicago.

There is a reason we call them FIBs

>>131640024
Unfortunately if Trump follows the cuckservatives in the GOP in their retarded handling of Obamacare,I could see it costing him a state or two in the rust belt.

>>131666081
But they have a real hockey team. And its good.

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>>131643760
swedes

>>131646804

A fucking state ID costs no more than 28.00 (Wisconsin), and as low as 5 dollars.

Honestly, if you can't save or make 30 bucks, you are too fucking stupid to vote.

>>131661172
>bronx
>light red

doubt.jpg

>>131640024
Probably desu.
The left keeps doubling down on the violence and id pol so they are gonna keep losing.

>>131641679
>Texas
>blue
europoor education

>>131641819
Spics actually did not like Hillary around where I live. I talked to more who voted Trump.
t. North Texas

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>>131646637
Looks like the sea level really is rising in your liberal snowflake world.

>>131640024
Can we agree that if Texas ever goes blue, that's when we'll start the killing, en masse? I personally feel it's past time we start the death squads, but am willing to wait for a moment such as the aforementioned.

>>131666819
Hispanic here from Ft. Worth, I voted for Trump, and so did over half of my extended family (I'm 1st generation us-born)

>>131666530
>"I can't read"
That map is showing an increase of GOP votes compared to 2012

>>131667054
We need to destroy Austin and its kike mayor.

>>131667062
Ft. Worth is way better than Dallas
t. plano

>>131667145
Yes, and rape sally hernandez before killing her.

>>131667079
Frankly you hardly made it clear. This color scheme is standardly used to demonstrate absolute votes, and the use of the word "swing" does not necessarily imply that the map indicates the levels of change.

>>131641679
Texas anon here, he's not wrong fags, unless you motherfuckers redpill the current generation it's going to go blue.

>>131667054
We need to come up with a way to identify each other IRL for when this happens

>>131667509
>the use of the word "swing" does not necessarily imply that the map indicates the levels of change.
Only it absolutely does

>"An electoral swing analysis (or swing) shows the extent of change in voter support, typically from one election to another"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_(politics)

The sheer amount of denial in this thread is laughable. Republicunts really are desperate.

>>131640024
DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>131641678
Ironically, leverage MUH RUSSIA could make democrats support it

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>>131667753
>>131667786
Hi shareblue you are late

>>131641678
They spics would absolutely leave quietly. Reconquista is a meme, the average illegal views this country as a paycheck and nothing more. If there's no money to be had they'll leave, and they certainly aren't going to fight for the right to live here.

>>131641678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs

black people ALREADY HAVE ID
RACIST LIBTARDS

>>131667890
You know I'm right.

People in this thread are just making up stupid bullshit to soothe their fears of the inevitable, a country that is moving further and further to the left.

>>131647073
sorry. im actually IN Texas
remember that mexican politician punching the white politician for saying he was going to call the police on all the illegal immigrants holding signs saying "im an illegal immigrant"?

and then just recently Houston, San Antonio, Dallas and El Paso all are trying their best to stop ant-sanctuary city laws

idiot mexicans are liberal because they think they have a right to be here and so do all their illegal friends

>>131641679
>Texas
>blue
Yeah right
>in b4 IT WAS BLUE FOR A DAY
no shit, it was on a weekday and the booths were filled with the unemployed, minorities, and housewives with their kids. Flipped almost instantly the following day and skyrocketed that weekend

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>>131663279
Actually, giving this statement a twice over it is very difficult to explain to a non-American the type of celebrity that would be successful in running for public office and one that wouldn't. It's not Philippines-tier where the boxing champ just gets the popular vote, you gotta be a Good Old Boy- with Reagan as the template, it's just some ineffible quality reflecting American hubris

It's going to be hilarious seeing Zuckerberg's campaign for Democratic party fail, fuck that guy

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>>131668043
>voted right wing even against massive voter fraud.
>moving further left

>>131651363
Building a financial empire is a lot more work than you apparently think. Let's see you do something similar.
>inb4 muh million dollar loan
It's pretty impressive, considering the majority of people take big loans throughout their entire lives and just turn it into debt with little or no profit.

>>131667423
I'm not degenerate you cuck.

>>131641819
I live here, this won't happen....ever, spics voted for trump down here since a good majority that are legal hate the illegals since they had to go through all the citizenship shit and illegals don't. Texas spics are probably some of the proudest citizens in America and conservative as fuck.

>>131668361
>country is becoming less white
>"N-no, believe me guys, these spics are going to vote for republicans!!"
Yeah, sure.

>>131668139
I'm glad Fort Worth didn't participate. I love this republican city.

>>131661172
what is this, percent shift from previous election, or white vote share? It's not total votes, NYC was 90% D

more likely NM wil turn red than CO with all its weed faggots.

>>131668668
Nope fuck boulder and fuck denver if we had voter id colorado would go red

>>131668653
>percent shift from previous election
That's what a "swing" is; Dems have been hemorrhaging votes since 2012

>>131668470
Faggot, she deserves it. Take some cialis, and shove your cock in her ass without lube. Then execute her.

>>131661172
Swing maps are deceptive. The only reason NY swung right this time is because Obama did so well in the state in 2012. Obama did exceptionally well in 2008 and 2012, and there's literally no way that Clinton could have done better than he did. Hillary simply isn't as popular as Obama.

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I come from the future to present the official 2020 election map. I'm afraid...the odds don't turn in your favor.

>>131642068
>>131642068
>Actually if he accomplishes the wall and other campaign promises, what else is there for him to do?

He hasn't done a single one yet. So that's easier said than done.

The main problem he'll face is unless he can bring back middle class blue collar jobs to states like MI, WI (ones he barely won) he'll lose badly. And he's already made promises he'll never be bale to keep - ie the coal industry is dead and no amount of presidential interference can bring it back, there's just no more demand for it (domestically or internationally).

>>131669255
> Hillary simply isn't as popular as Obama

And yet, Orange County went blue for the first time since 1936. Hmmm

>>131644098
the twin cities decide who wins the state: they'll never vote republican.

>>131668139
>>131668326
>>131666741


Demographics tell a different story.

Urban texas is already heading blue. Younger texans, minority groups (especially a rising hispanic population) are bad news for Texas Republicans,.

Wont happen for an election cycle or two, butby 2030 it'll be a battleground state.

>>131649098
A socialist is laundering money? Who knew kek

>>131669880
That's literally not proof of anything, but the fact that more educate upper-middle class voters don't like Trump.

Proof that Obama is more popular than Hillary: He won in a legitimate landslide.

>>131657742
Maine is good because they split the EC between the counties. I also am a self hating northerner, what fucks NH up is the fact that it is such a successful state, all the idiot libs from mass moved there and turned it blue, i fear that the same thing will happen with Cali and Texas

>>131641679
>MI
>red
Lmfa- oh wait..

>WI
>Red
Lmfa- oh wait..

>PA
>Red
Lmfa- oh wait..

i miss map threads desu

>>131670518
It's proof of massive fraud

>>131670797
keep crying

>>131640024
As much as I hope New Hampshire will go red, the Massholes will probably vote for whoever the fuck is on the DNC's side

>>131669880
>What is "illegal immigrants voting for 10,000?" Alex.

>>131665934
is this true?

>>131669255
The way the Dems have been going, it all depends on who they put out in 2020. If they continue on their current trajectory they'll run the risk of losing even more support.

The trend has naturally been in GOP favor, since the effects of the '08 hype/Bush hatred have worn off, and if the Democrats can't find another Obama-like figure they'll be doomed. The GOP needs to capitalize on this come 2018. If Cuomo loses next year, it'll be a step in the right direction

Not saying NY will 100% go red, but the possibility is there

>>131647317
>hispanics are mexicans

>>131646704
except that every nigger has a state id so they can buy liquor

>>131640024
Thanks for reminding us that /pol/ is satire.

>>131671353
But Cuomo isn't a SJW Democrat, more of a corporate one. He's not great but he's not as bad as most of the current liberals and Democrats. His whole style is very Bill Clinton-esque, he's a centrist desu. I don't see him as a big threat.

>>131652074
Yeah, I thought CO people would make a bit more sense than a lot of others, with the exception of Denver.. Problem is, pretty much everything is IN Denver.

>>131664149
This. Bring the troops home to send the taco niggers home.

>>131671160
Yes, even snopes confirmed it lol

>>131670897
Go get aids faggot

>>131668668
Trump won more of CO than you might think.

>>131672045
>he's a centrist desu
Not really, I agree he's more corporate than SocJus but losing 9% points from 2010 to 2014 isn't very promising. If he relies on the same internal polling that lulled HRC into a loss, then he is absolutely done for

>>131641678
The only issue with voter ID comes if the card is not free because it then counts as a poll tax which is unconstitutional. If they make it free then there's literally nothing wrong with it.

>>131643218
>"To be honest Mike, it was a little too easy."

>>131642068
Keep America great again and out of the hands of these losers. Sad.

>>131641566
You seem to underestimate the large ((white)) dominance of the culture of liberalism. California is birth mother of liberals. Long are the days were Christian,whites,a.d redpill immagrent could make it red

>>131641566
THIS CANNOT BE UNDERSTATED ENOUGH
t. SELF HATING LOS ANGELES NIGGER

>>131666077
fuck off with your state of jewferson bullshit, itll never fly

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>>131640024

Pic related is 2020.

>>131640024
Looks good however I would make Florida pink due to so many old dying boomers going to get butthurt in the future.

>>131641566
>Taiwan
>Knowing how the country works
Voting laws are up to the states and if you want to make it so that there is VoterID, you would need to guarantee free state IDs that can confirm your identity. If Trump makes a national standard ID mandatory and free. States can opt to use that as a mean to determine citizenship.

>>131640024
Florida is crawling with young bernie people that live with their parents and are looking for gibs. Plus many Trump voters there are old and might not be around in 2020.

>>131640024
this is the new definition of delusional

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>>131660544
Not even Jeb can foresee what awaits him

>>131674452
Slow and steady.

>>131663120
Actually wrong, the counties outside the twin cities are much bigger in total but Trump won by less than what Clinton won in the twin cities.

>>131644804
You know why.

>>131663120
I don't get your point?

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implying 2020 wont go that way

>>131675716
He didn't like being the front runner in 2016, but you better watch out in 2020.

>>131646804
Democrats will tell you :
1) Illegals won't vote , they don't want to get in trouble
2) there have been very very few reports of voter fraud
3)requiring people to have IDs stops people who are for one reason or another not able mentally to get one
4) a waste of time and resources to check everyone's ID

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>>131647073
LOL HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA
fucking weak bait, but I laughed
Hispanics are low IQ shit skins

Do you want to see California turn red?

Divide the electoral vote into districts or based on voter proportions instead of winner takes all.

>>131676361
People with common sense will reply:
1) If they cared about getting in trouble they would've come here legally.
2) They also say rape goes highly under reported, but they insist it happens more than it's reported. Yet they tell us not to jump to conclusions when we say it about voter fraud.
3) If they aren't able to get one for mental reasons then they shouldn't be allowed to vote at all.
4) Oh yeah, it costs so much and takes up so much time to make a small plastic rectangle and show it to somebody.

>>131677079
They will reply
1) they came here to escape their country. They want to work and live a good life, not sent be back over an election
2) Rape is completely different , it doesn't get reported because women don't want to tell people. Voter fraud is something being get caught doing, nobody has to report it.
3) if someone doesn't work or drive, or works by their home, or lives on university and doesn't need a government ID, or is mentally ill and has no ability or help to get an ID they still have the RIGHT to vote.
4) why spend money and time that is completely unessesary? I created longer lines to vote and will discourage people from voting if they see a long line

>>131677914
Such bullshit. Blood was shed for our right to vote. We are just asking shitskins to get a fucking ID to improve integrity in our voting system. But it's been proven over and over that white standards are too high for shitskins.

>>131678149
White standards are too high for shit skins, but shitskins have the right to vote and the standards have to be lowered. It's their constitutional right.

>>131641566
exactly. we've been FUCKING YELLING FOR FUCKING DECADES MOTHER FUCKERS CAN YOU HEAR US WE SAID BUILD THE FUCKING WALL AND DEPORT WTF DONALD FUCKING KIKE RETARD

>>131644804

The Dems need undocumented illegal 3rd world foreigners to prop them up with votes in exchange for free shit.

>>131676072
kek is that happy merchant or am i just slow

>>131644069
Lol

>>131652507
fuck deseret. the never trumper globalist mormons will be cattle driven back to utah at gunpoint.

>>131664275
THE JEB SURGE STARTS IN ALASKA

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>>131647073
The_Donald in one post.

>>131660257
bullshit. wtf. eugene and the methhead culture down south. oregon hippy culture is for sf hippies that burned out. degenerate as fuck. it's like you retards forget about the 20million CA bros with guns and ammo who are ready to roll on all you faggots...

>>131678465
Standards always have to be lowered for shitskins, but if a policy negatively impacts whites, forget about it.

I'm a lobbyist in Southern California. I scan city council agendas looking for something to profit off of daily.

A particular city on my radar abandoned at large elections and drew district lines around shitskin neighborhoods, because "muh latinos" didn't have any representation on the city council because they are a minority in that town.

By that logic, I could argue a similar case where whites are a minority in a town with at large elections and force them to draw district lines so whites can get representation in their municipalities.

>>131664149
>>131672719

YES! YO BEANERS!
>CANNNNNNNNN UUUUUUUUUUUU DIGGGGGGGGGGG ITT?

>>131640024
we will have a proper constitutional representative republic for quite a fucking while after this next 7.5 years.

>>131677914
We will reply:
1) Maybe instead of dumping your problems onto us you could try and fix the problems in your own country. Your problems are solved and you don't create more problems for us. It's a win-win.
2) What motivates them to not be reported is not the issue here. The fact of the matter is they are both under reported.
3) An ID costs at the very most $30 and almost anyone can get one. The only excuse for not being able to get one that you'd still have valid input on the election is if you're physically incapable of getting the money for one. In which case they wouldn't be able to get to the polling place anyway.
4) If waiting a little longer is enough to discourage you from voting then you clearly didn't care much anyway. And if you think spending money unnecessarily is a problem then what the hell is the social justice movement? You think that shit happens for free?

>>131647073
POUND FOR POUND, EN MASSE: HISPANICS DON'T HAVE THE IQ CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND AMERICA.

All the democrats have to do is put up another nigger in 2020 and they will win without trying.

I fucking dare them to do it. Please! We need niggers to red pill more whites, even if that means getting owned by nigger again.

>>131653472
Arizona will never go blue, they hate dems and spics too much. Florida won't flip back while Trump is still running, neither will the rust belt. Fuck of Eurocuck you know nothing about our politics.

>>131679479
That place is such shit.

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>>131640024
All hail God Emperor!
#MAGA2020

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>>131640024
>implying my map isn't the most accurate

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>>131679479
Go plug a dike.

>>131642686
Minnesota will flip red. People are really pissed what the shit hole urban areas have done and are doing. They do not represent Minnesota, and people are hell bent on making sure they don't get to represent the state any more.

>>131640024

And? I refuse to think of this as anything good while Trump keeps handing out them amnesties like hotcakes.

There is a tiny hope that he can go full fash (obvious hyperbole) in his 2nd term when he doesn't have to worry about reelection.

>>131640024
>CO red
>commiefornians migrating here by the 100s of thousands

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I predict a loss for the democraps in 2020

>>131643218
>literally tired of winning

>>131683638
>CO red

you fags need to stop, lived here for 20 years its never going to happen

>>131643704
And because of Reagan, California will never be red ever again.

>>131640024
Trump isn't winning more votes beyond his 38% base, dumbass.
Trump barely won the first time, he's not getting more votes with 38%.

>>131683638
California and Washington are not going to support Donald Trump regardless of how well he does now.

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>>131684066
>The joke
________
>(You)

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Assuming Donald does nothing significant, and he probably wont, and considering how polarized he'll get the cities and urban areas to vote against him, this is the likely map.

Trump is clever to keep talking about coal and all this bullshit because its his best chance to hold onto the rust belt while everyone else polarizes, but Trump supporters will not turn out in greater numbers than the previous election.

The Democrats dont have a significant margin in each state to make up (about 1%) and considering Ossoff/Handel was a 6-point dip for Dems, I predict this map.

Florida is retarded and will stay red cause its weird.

>>131666525
in texas, voter ids are free

>>131641566
>passes a national voter ID law.

You would need 60 Senate votes for that. Ain't gonna happen!

>>131643760
literal swedes and somalians

>>131684767
you're kidding right? the Dems are losing huge voters right now, they've been doing hysterical shit and even most liberals I talk to aren't too keen on supporting the Dems come next election unless they shape up.

>>131683638

>massachusetts
>red
>ever in any lifetime

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Never. Gonna. Happen

This is the worst state in the union. Not only are we filled with beaners and puerto ricans, but our whites are beyond saving. At least Cali has large masses of right wing white people, MA doesn't. Not one fucking county went red this year.

I hate this pathetic state.

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Illinois? Not a chance

>>131684767
Wisconsin is unironically and officially a red state now.

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>>131683638
What is this monstrosity?

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>>131685297
>>131685523
Here, I'll just give you the meme. You figure it out.

>>131666379
Yeah... And also they have a MLB team and NFL team people from Wisconsin hate there, with chimps shooting up the city, i'll pass.

>>131666819
Opinions of anybody outside of TX can be ignored. Our spics really are different and people just don't get it unless they live here.

t. Northeast TX

NUGGER OSSY

>>131683638
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

>>131676072
Oh! Now I see it lol

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new and improved map

>>131640024
>CO going red
Not a chance. We were very blue even with coal towns like Craig voting Trump.

>>131666379
i'd like to point out we have the only publically held socialized football team and kick ass with the most loyal fans. also green bay based on it's size shouldn't have a football team. theres a reason they ruled no more teams like green bay. may lead to a 14/88 revolution up in this joint

>>131664275
lol wut. did alaska go for jeb or what

>>131681946
that and everyone in Minnesota has a family member in Wisconsin and are jealous that we aren't shipping in somalies to rape and pillage everything. however dane county is trying to ship in chicago residents so i guess it's the same shit

>>131654207
this

>>131647073
>voting is the only problem with Mexicans
>not the lower IQs, gibsmuhdat, refusal to learn English, and flood of manual labor

>>131668549
Yeah except look at the state election map by county, the entire Texas border with Mexico is blue

Fucking kill yourself Paco you self-hating POS go back to Mexico

>>131641566
NY would go red before Cali would.

>>131643218
I cant even imagine the feeling you would have being in that position. Thats a "no more worlds left to conquer" moment if ive ever seen one.

>>131640024

you american lives are literally a movie. as Hollywood land with it's movie star governor is the last bastion of movie fiction.
poetic somehow, a grand stage. marvelous.

>>131688282
GTFO KIKE! AMERICANS ONLY

>>131647376
Not please, they are idiots

>>131683638
>loss
fuck off /v/