Prove to me that Capitalism isn't slavery

>voluntary slavery

Sage.

>>131633689
>"wow Boss,
>"that's great car"

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>>131633689
Oh? What's the alternative?
I am DYING to know!

>>131633689
Dedicate your life to the jew $$$.

Nope.

Is that Giovanni?

>>131633756
All slavery is voluntary. You can always kill yourself

>>131634147
Nope, you can't. People can take that away too. SAGE

>>131633689
Team Rocket has shitty pay anyways, what did that guy expect?

Now Team Galactic on the other hand...

>>131633689
Everything is slavery no mater what system you will be forced to exchange your labour for resources

>>131634147
>Supporting the rope and funeral jew
Not today Shlomo

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>>131634147

>>131633689
capitalism != slavery
q.e.d

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life is slavery, nobody asks to be born, yet here we are.

>>131634418
This is true, you get nothing by asking. You have to take it. You have to DEMAND to be born

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>>131633689
You keep what your labor is worth and the people who are liable for any losses the company takes earn the big bucks.

If your company had a bad month, would you be happy to go home with a bill instead of a pay check?

>>131633689
If the boss didn't get a better car then the employees, he would shut is business down and the employee would be jobless and have no income at all.

>>131634218
It is slavery if you work only to survive.

>>131633689
Na, you can choose not to work and starve...
SAGE

>>131634501
>you have to take it
>you have to demand
sounds like a contradiction

>>131633689
In capitalism you are allowed to get rich. You don't have to though.

>7 series
>z3

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>>131633689
I lived under a bridge surviving on scraps and donations from '08 to '09.
Guarantee you won't give a shit about being "a slave" while you huddle around a gasping fire with a couple of crackheads in the cold Chicago winter

>>131633689
capitalism isn't the problem, it's basic greed

>wow, i really NEED to own a similar car to be happy and live a fulfilling life

>>131635275
why didnt you sell crack and invest in bitcoin you pleb? You could be a millionaire by now. When I was 16, I sold weed to get money for a gift card that i used to buy ten bitcoin at less than a dollar and now im sitting on over 50k.

If you're bitching about living in the first world, off yourself immediately.

>>131633689
because you can make the decision to leave your current job and find a better one within your means. you can go into business for yourself and carve a financial empire out for yourself?

just because you are a lazy cuck/fuck and dont want to take the initiative to learn the skills necessary to get noticed and be promoted and move up the so called social ladder doesnt mean that capitalism is getting you down.

>>131634515
>implying large corporations have to deal with this at all

>>131633689
literally no one is forcing you to be a wagecuck, but most normies are born for the wagey life

>>131635696
I believe you senpai.

>>131634039
Anarcho-Syndicalism.

>>131633689
>being a boss is easy
why dont you do it then

>>131633689
>7 series BMW Z3

>>131633689
Everyone is a slave to something

Once you realize this, you'll stop fighting invisible monsters

>>131634204
>>131633756
Le sage? LE SAAAAAAAGEEEEE YAYAY..... PEPE!

>>131635840
>implying blockbuster never happened

>>131635840
They do actually. I worked as a junior account manager for a Locums company and I had a client who refused to pay $17,000 he owed us. Until I figured out how to get that money a percentage would come out of my paycheck since contracts were finalized and signed. But that's also how I got him to pay, because we threatened the shit out of him legally.

At the same time execs are disproportionately earning compared to their actual work effort.

>>131633689
No one's forcing me to take part in a capitalist societies I can leave at any time.

Sage

>>131633689
All interactions in a capitalistic market are voluntary.

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>>131633689
>boss gets out of his 7 series
>it's actually a z3
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Why do people always jump to CEOs as the evil of capitalism?

CEOs are needed, or else companies will just die and that happens often

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>mfw wagie and ordered a M240i

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>>131633689
You can walk away from any job under capitalism.

Under communism, however, you do the job assigned to you or you get labelled a social parasite and spend the rest of your short life in a labour camp.

There will always be lazy faggots in every society that ascribes to any economic model, there will always be people that don't want to work, be for their own good or society, therefore there will never be a shortage of parasites willing to yell SLAVERY.

You get to own things, you get to choose where and when to work, you get to negotiate your wage or even start your business venture, invest in the market, trade with others, etc. You don't have to make use of that freedom if you don't want to, just try not to starve.

>>131634515
>take the big hits
>oh yeah bill the CEO lost 8 million from his 100 million a year
>you only lost your 50,000 a year because that's how much your entire pay was and we laid you off to cut costs

>>131635275
Which is because of capitalism. Either work or we starve you. Just like slavery. I am sure you would prefer work over beatings but does that make slavery justified?

>>131636347
And what happened to the employees? They lost their jobs. Saying you get paid less for more security is horseshit.

>>131637301
If it isn't manual I will kill you fat fuck

>>131637301
>Buying Beamershit

>>131633689
That isn't a 7 series in the pic. At best its a 1 series.

Sage.

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>>131634501
How winners are born

>>13163369

Employment is a voluntary transaction, I sell my labour at a mutually agreed upon price. If I don't like the wage I receive or the way my boss operates, I can choose to leave in search of a better job. Further I have the freedom to move to another country if I think the grass is greener. Quite telling that everyone wants to move to western capitalist countries isn't it?

>buying luxury cars

Can you get more bluepilled?

>>131634147

Niggers tried that on slave ships to Cuba by not eating so they would hammer their teeth out, stick a funnel in their throat, and force food into them.

>>131633689
>gibsmedat
just kys, cuck

sage

All work is economic slavery.

>>131635979
>not sharing our wealth
syndie scum get out

It is but communists are also controlled by (((them)))

Wow Comrade Overseer, what a shitty car

Yes Lowly comrade worker, we only have shitty cars, oh by the way we need to get productivity up, so you need to work longer hours and even weekends
Good thing your not working here by choice and cant quit

>>131633689

its not a 7 series

>>131633689
>7 series
>good car

probably company car though use by manager or top position.

>>131633689
Prove to me there exists something better and proven than capitalism with a sprinkle of socialism.
I am waiting.. oh wait you cant? What a surprise.

>not putting actual dialogue from Giovanni from red/blue
-20/10 see me after class

>>131634135
Yes, coincidentally while he was the head of the premier crime syndicate in Kanto-Johto his business ventures were always completely legal, and he performed more philanthropic work than the hero ever does.

>>131633689
Prove to me communism isn't slavery

>>131641346
you can't be a slave if you're dead

>>131633689
Nigga that's a leader of a criminal organization, I don't even think team rocket has employee benefits

Stop being poor

>>131641498
lololololololol

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>the only alternative to capitalism is communism

Yes goyim, there are only two ways of organizing things and we will always end up at the top of both of them!

>>131633689
That's not a fucking 7 series.

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>>131639060
And under socialism you work and still starve.
What a fucking improvement.

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I don't understand these kind of arguments.

If he is unhappy with his pay the why doesnt he start his own company so he is the boss taking all the financial risk?

Risk=reward

>>131641945
>he is the boss taking all the financial risk

Except executives fuck up companies all the time and then mysteriously gain better paid jobs elsewhere. The elite look after themselves, they don't take some huge risk by being at the top.

>>131640360
It's a Z3

>>131642219
>makes claim
>doesn't back up with fact or source
lol

>>131634039
>>131634218
>He hasn't heard of a resource based economy
Robot utopia, I'm waiting for you

>>131642882
All economies are resource based.

Are you seriously suggesting that there are economic out there that do not utilize resources at all?

>7 series

>Nice

It's the worst big luxury sedan on the market

Audi, Mercedes, Jaguar, Cadillac are all superior.

Corporatism isn't capitalism

>>131643294
No, it's the name of a system which at first will sound a lot like automated communism to you, but if you research further you'll see it's not that and we have the means to do it with our current technological level

>>131644080
>Corporatism isn't capitalism
Yes it is. Capitalism is a massive umbrella term. Corporatism isn't possible without capitalism.
Commie fucktards are blatantly retarded and don't understand basic definitions. Capitalism only means that a market is established with profit in mind. Nothing more, nothing less.

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>>131637068
Not to mention that without CEOs, there is no business in the first place. Thus, they are disproportionately valuable as compared to their employees. Efficient systems will reward components that are higher value contributions at higher rates, and thus efficient economic systems have CEOs earning much more than their employees.

Income inequality is a natural mark, or sign of an efficient economy. Income equality must be artificially induced and is not only an unnatural sign of such a system, but when induced externally is also an inefficient modification to that system. Why? Because by reallocating wealth from the executives of the business you reduce their potential capacity to invest and produce new capital (like machinery) that increases their throughput, thus eventually hampering and inhibiting
their contribution to a consumer society.

>>131644551
>Corporatism isn't possible without capitalism.

How so?

>>131633689
>Prove to me that Capitalism isn't slavery
The proof of this is found in a common book you might try reading called a DICTIONARY.

>>131639158
These days it's about paddle shifters. Traditional manuals are a thing of the past.

>>131633689
That pic is right though. Put in the work and you get the pay.
Sage

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>>131633689

it's not even a 7 series in the picture
kys i bet your a woman

>>131644856
Corporatism is an organization that exist by the control of the state or several backing interest.
It's a separate organization from those controlling entities. To allow cohesion within the structure, there must be a method of payment that maintains upkeep and also pays those interest. This inherently implies profit, otherwise there is no incentive for the controlling interest to control the structure in the first place.
>INB4 fantasy communist ideology

>>131633689
Why would you type the text in the image like that? I felt like replying to your question but then I clicked on that shit.

>>131633689
you work your ass off and have nice life, nice try commmie nigger

https://vimeo.com/222992956

>>131637068
Because it is quite common for them to be corrupt crooks and unlike corrupt crooks on lower positions, CEOs can bleed the company dry.

>>131633689
Faggots who make 'maymays' like that really should try to run their own buisness.
t. wagecuck by choice

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Cannot tell the difference between BMW 7 Series and BMW Z3.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>131645525
Here's the big problem with what you said, and it's been said thousands of times before.
At most, you can only say that these CEO could or may do something. It's not inherent to the position of the CEO but the individual.
So the real question arises from how these people come into those positions of power and how to root them out? That also changes this from a economic question to a psychological one.

>>131640126
I find that really hard to believe.
Shattering a dude's teeth on that day and age could very well kill them without proper treatment and people would soon figure out that the slaves with busted teeth were suicidal.

>>131645971
It is a psychological issue.

There are numerous studies proving that positions of power are highly attractive for high fuctioning sociopaths.

>>131646544
Then it really has nothing to do with Capitalism v Communism, unless people are willing to incorporate the subject, in which case, Communism would be irredeemably BTFO. And since Socialism/Communism are the only real alternatives to Capitalism, this argument becomes moot.

>>131633689
Prove to me you have a job first.

>>131633689

> be kid
> buy ingredients for lemonade
> set up lemonade stand and signs

> be thirsty guy
> give kid quarter
> receive lemonade

Bonus: no guns involved in transaction

Capitalism.

>>131646739
I’d argue that failure of communism was due to highly functioning sociopaths.

Should technology to resolve this fundamental issue arise, I woudln’t mind giving some elements of communism a second chance.

>>131647007
>steal lemonade
>kid cant do shit about it because he can't afford the 100 bitcoin for a police™ subscription
>capitalism

Really makes me think

>>131633689
In capitalism you have the freedom to start your own business or participate in the financial markets, you don't have to be a slave. "slavery" as you see it - is a choice as well interpretation.

>>131635696
i know bitcoin have a high market value but is it even possible to convert them into real money

>>131639060
The choice between work or starvation was not created by capitalism it was created by life. If you choose to live by yourself in the wilderness nature is not going to just hand you food and shelter for nothing, you are going to have to work to find those things for yourself. The difference is that in capitalism you can pay others for the convenience of doing the work for you.

>>131647289
Actually starting a business that will survive against established competitors requires large amounts of capital which has to come from (((investors))). Good luck getting Shlomsostein Investment Corp™ to provide the millions required for Joe Bloggs' business idea.

>>131647219
>Should technology to resolve this fundamental issue arise, I woudln’t mind giving some elements of communism a second chance.
I would say that is an extremely dangerous prospect. Technology still has to be designed by humans and will carry out human flaws. There is no such thing as true equality, and because of this fact, how could we ever live in a communist or socialist society?

>>131647286

Police are paid for with property taxes, you drooling neophyte. Capitalism is an economic system; says next to nothing about your scenario.

>>131633689
What is voluntary exchange
>If you do x, I will give you y.
>If you don't do x, then you don't get y
wow OP so hard to grasp

>>131647885
>Police are paid for with property taxes

hippity hoppity how 'bout you get the fuck off my property

>>131633689
>what is at will employment
apparently slavery if you're a mental gymnast

>>131647342
there are ways, the more direct the way the more you lose to taxes

>>131633689
>dumb people trade 5 days of the week for 2 free days
>capitalism is evil
stay dumb, dumb people

>>131647885
>>131648259
Or we could go back to the original American ideal of law enforcement.
You're in charge of your own safety. If she gets too ham, you and your neighbors can drag them to court (probably literally) and settle shit that way.

>>131633689
Modern liberal capitalism is slavery. So is any society rooted in Marxist theory.

>>131633689
Still better than Communism.
Most stable doctrine we have so far is capi

>>131635164
Took me way to long to see someone type this.

>>131649329
>says the socialist

>>131649440
>says the ignorant

>>131640126

Are you retarded

Reeeee-ing about Income inequality = somebody has a nicer car than me. OPs pic says it all.

>>131649775
>ad hominem
>no real retort
wew. heil victory, amirite?

>>131633689
Under capitalism, you are allowed to aquire a farm able to sustain your basic needs, thus making yourself free to the pickiest definition

>>131650296
>opens with ad-hom
>wonders why he receives an ad-hom response
???

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I don't want to work hard to live and advance ! Gibs me dose gibs nao !

>>131650494
>Hahahah why you are even poor just own land nigga just be rich

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>>131650600
>Is socialist
>being called a socialist is ad hominem
>doesn't see the contraction in attacking marxist
???

>>131633689
I remember in herbalife scam they were saying that all the time while people got bankrupt.

>>131650494
>aquire a farm
and how do you do that?

>>131650790
>is ignorant
>equates all socialism with a distinct school of radical socialist thought
>doesn't read Spengler
You're literally a 'NATSEES ARE COMMIES 2!!' tier normie conservative.
Start here to get a rough idea of right-wing Spenglerian socialism. Then read some NSDAP literature that isn't Mein Kampf. Read that too though if you haven't already.
https://archive.org/details/PrussianismAndSocialism

>>131633689
>being a wagecuck
there is your problem

>>131633689
You are free to start your own business. Of course, then you will find that you are still a slave, to your customers. In communism, you are a slave to the state.

Pick your poison.

>>131650744
Nice argument
>>131650901
buy/transform land. get the wealth/knowledge to turn it into a farm

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>>131651266
>>doesn't read Spengler
>uses Hitler's Nazi flag and uses Spengler
>doubles down on contradictions
>calls other people ignorant
this is fucking great lol please keep this up

>>131633689
That's a z3 M Roadster

Foolish boy