Capitalism everyone!

>Bailing out banks and Wall Street is capitallistic

It's actually not. Let the market regulate itself

>>131626305
Way I see it that rich dude built the house and has the waiter on his payroll. Meanwhile the white guests did him a favor for the slice of pie and the niggers are uninvited guests who somehow expect to get pie for free.

Pretty fair in my opinion.

>>131626305
Crazy world we live in when liberal ''people'' seem to equate not taking money away from the people as giving them something.
As if not getting taxed is a privilege.
Like everyone receives money from the government, and a tax cut is just the government giving them more money.

This shit is crazy.

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>>131626305
Now show a cartoon of Socialism!
(all plates are empty)
Go back to uni and get a degree in economics.

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>>131626305
Seems fine to me.

>>131626305
>Capitalism everyone!
No, you can stop electing Trumps and Koch brothers puppets to Congress and it will still remain capitalism.

>>131626656
>dumb amerilard will justify kike run monopolies

>>131626749
What is purchasing power

>>131626305
Where's the original Ben Garrison picture? This is a shameless copy.

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I unironically agree with this pictures underlying message, yes there is a massive wealth inequality, but disagree that...
1) Rich man is seen as a white male
2) middle class means single mothers
3) blacks represent the poor
4) the GOP is the butler to the rich

It's well known that the 1% back Hillary Clinton aka the democrat party and they despised trump during the election. Hell, they STILL defy him to this day and pander to the left.

>>131626749
This map reeks of bullshit.

>>131626305
Those fuckers that's are shit

>>131626837
Monopolies are created by the government.

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>>131626305
Not this gay shit again.

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Listen motherfucker, your gay ass ideology is failed. Marx was wrong in his predictions.

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You commie scum need to pay some fucking attention to reality.

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inb4
>hurr durr but official soviet statistics and projections !!!!!11

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>>131627027
IMF map directly. And only reason east is higher is because they are no longer communist.

>>131627034
And the usa goverment is owned by the kikes

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>>131627094
Yup. Capitalism has lifted huge masses from poverty. Only reason Some countries with Capitalism might be poor is because its not real capitalism and in real sense not socialist sense

>Ronnie cucking the evil empire

>>131626305
>wealth
>finite
Yes because, not taking your money is the equivalent to giving it. That is some serious socialist mental gymnastics you got there.
>>131626656
All the plates would be empty except for the state since Socialism is only about giving the state more power over it's citizens.

>>131627304
Its a picture from google images without any source. Fuck off back to réddit you fat dumb fucking cunt

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>>131627413
>this pic

>>131626305
its like im stuck in a loop where everything just repeats itself over and over again

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>>131627394
>confederate flag
fuck off traitor

The rich man grew his own ingredients, baked the pie, and invited other people to come share it.

>>131626305
>poor niggers
>not nigger fault
Try working, nigger.

>>131626305
Wow the guy who worked his butt off his entire life is getting the biggest piece of the pie and the niggers who collect welfare don't wtf I hate capitalism and republicunts now

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>>131627394
So amerilardistan is not real capitalism, right?

>>131626305
>single mother
>white
Stop it, Shlomo.

>>131626305

Test

>>131627654
Those wall steet kikes sure worked hard for their bail out monies

>>131626305

>nigger with 4 niglets and no father

Surprised this wasn't labeled RAYCISS by the nigger left.

>>131626305
oh wow! i am convinced now.

WHY DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT
CONTENT!
POLICY!

What are you proposing? How would that work?

Fucking idiots....

>>131626305
inefficiently run organizations are morally superior because nobody gets rich

>>131626305
The poor should have the pie and the middle class should have the empty plate to be more accurate.

>>131627811
>Unironically thinking this
Do you also believe there's a conspiracy to turn the frogs gay?

>>131626305

Nigger cartoon depicts crony capitalism. Limit power of government, problem solved.

>>131626305
>black people are all poor
Typical racist lib

>>131626305
Yep, makes a lot of sense. Instead of asking the server for some pie. They just gawk like retards at the fact that the elephant has a whole pie. Just thinking to themselves. "Why does he get a whole pie?" Meanwhile there's a few more on standby and, the ingredients to make more in the kitchen.

>>131626305
>muh fixed pie fallacy
'Most economic fallacies derive from the neglect of this simple insight, from the tendency to assume that there is a fixed pie, that one party can gain only at the expense of another.'

>>131626305
""middle class"" = single mom working class

also

>when you have only crumbs on your plate,
>but you're the most obese population on tha planet earth

>>131626979
I wonder why the right gets demonized so bad? There are objectively more dem billionaires then Republican.

>>131627909
That's also true. The middle class can organize their own pie, the government will give none to them.

>>131628250
probably a case of - being somewhat powerful makes you a target - but being the ruler makes you immune

>>131626305

There's a lesson about reproductive discipline in there, but I just can't put my finger on it...

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>>131627930
Good goy. Them poor kikes din du nuffing. They do honest work on wall st.!

>>131626436
fpbp, the only reason this can happen is ecause of lobbying shills+ high-power government

>>131628299
lol, there's 2 elephants in this room :)

>but we need more welfare recipients

>>131627187
If their views where based in reality they wouldn't be communist.

>>131626436
It's actually is,
Market is not a force of nature. It's a product of people, and because of it, is subject to propaganda, coercion, kikery etc.

>>131626578
>Built

At best, it's middle class family that actually, well, BUILT it.

>>131626616
Crazy world is where the nazis are more than eager to out jews, but litelarry shut their eyes on usury and other kikery as long as the guy doing it is nominally white.

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>>131628311
How can anyone be this stupid? It's embarassing.

>>131626305
Look at the middle class family.. Have a huge piece of pie, yet they are displeased because someone has more.
Poor and middle class people in America have a pretty decent life. They dont even have to work to get housing, clothes and food. Those that does are instantly rewarded with a higher living standard than +75% of the worlds population.
None of this matters to the socialist, all that matters is how much their neighbor have. Its like the saying "neighbors goat must also die". Meaning if you have a goat and it get sick and die, then it is only fair that your neighbors goat also should die, so you can become equal.

>>131628250
https://www.forbes.com/sites/katiasavchuk/2014/07/09/are-americas-richest-families-republicans-or-democrats/#56fb67fc3e83

this says the majority of the 50 richest families are republican

>>131626305
Capitalism is the ultimate Jew game
Every poltard is a Jewish puppet without even knowing it

>>131627034
>Implying that business won't strive to create monopoly by itself, because of muh NAP and non-writter chivalry rules.

But then again, you bitched about not getting 1v1 during fucking war, so no surprise.

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>>131628608
Its some edgy fat american kid who came here because ebin trump maymays

>>131627712

Where the fuck is Africa?

>>131626305
Are you basically jealous?

>>131628767

I bet he also shills for "white nationalism" and praises Hitler.

Fucking mongrels without their own history or ethnicity to be proud of.

>>131626436
Let me ask you a simple question. When the government bails out banks, do private owners still retain control over private property (also known as the means of production.)?
If you answered YES to this question, then it is still capitalism.
Government control and intervention is not socialism in of in itself.

Socialism: The transitional period between Capitalism and Communism. Examples of socialism: USSR, Cuba, etc.

>>131628671
You mean the same publication that never adds Rockefeller, rothchillds or any of the actual richists people on the planet to their top richest people issue. Have you not been paying attention to the "fake news" epidemic? Your an embarrassment to that flag.

>>131627712
>(((Poverty Threshold*************)))

>>131626305
Not accurate. Instead of "tax cuts" it should be called "tax loopholes" and it should be served by a donkey/elephant abomination.

But no one ever wants to talk about how ridiculously complex and full of loopholes the tax code is. Instead lefties just bitch about tax cuts for the rich.

>>131626305
if you want the government to stop fucking over the middle class and the poor then all you gotta do is simple: pay for your own shit, stop demanding others pay for shit and stop electing politicians that promise to give you free shit. you marxist retards always complain about the government and your solution is more government.

>>131628671
And the rest are Democrats. So what?

Why do political cartoonists label fucking everything? They have all the subtlety of a brick to the teeth.

>>131628964
>When the government bails out banks

Not capitalism, commiefag. If banks fail in the free market, they go under. What you're talking about is corporatism.

>>131629154
People are getting dumber as we move "forward"

>>131626305
The rich earned their pie.
The poor should just fucking work for it instead of expecting to be handed some fucking charity on their plate.

Also, I'm completely fine with a single slice since I don't eat too much anyways (literally and metaphorically).

>>131628835
No oecd member african countries.

>>131626436
>Let banks go bankrupt
>Millions of families lose all their money, thousands of businesses disappear
>"At least we aren't socialists"

>thinks there is a finite amount of wealth

>>131628971
Hey retard the rockefellers are on that list and it wouldn't make sense for the rothschilds to be on a list for American families because most of them are in Europe. You're a fucking moron.

>>131629293
You implying that doesn't happen in a socialist state?

>>131626305
Capitalist trump make that pie bigger, whereas faggots like you try to share it out so that everyone has their "fair share", which basically translates as useless cunts demanding more money than the value that they can produce for their fellow man is actually worth. Also if that was a drawing of communism there wouldn't be anything on the plate

>>131629293
More like assets are liquidated, people get their money and the people who fucked over the bank get tossed out of a helicopter without their precious golden parachute.

>>131626305
they forgot the part when the rich guy and his ancestors worked their asses off and the black people/faggot class never did shit.

>U.S. wealth
Absolutely spooked

>>131626305
Funny how this comic neglects to mention how 70% of the 'poor' don't work, are mostly obese (thanks food stamps) and are mostly on welfare. Also remember this:
The rich employ the middle class directly and indirectly. Either through them employing you or you selling/making something the rich buy or work with you are employed through their management and smart thinking.
The more money the rich have, the more they can spend, the more people they effectively employ. So when you tax the rich more they employ less people, which makes more people poor. The rich didn't get rich by doing nothing, that's how and why poor people are poor.

>>131626305
that's an OK edit, but does anyone have the original?

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We don't live in Capitalist society, when the fed owns 1/3 of the US, we don't have free markets, 50% of every transaction is manipulated by government. We live in a socialist society- and before the end of 2018 - there will be a recession bigger than 2007-2008. What we see are the effects of socialism within society along with greed - Fidel Castro’s personal net worth at $900 million. That’s a lot of socialist rationing for one person. Luxurious living arrangements were especially appealing to Castro.

More Communism isn't the answer, you will be miserable, what we currently have isn't the answer either. I think we need 1776 not 1984

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>>131626305
Found the original

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capitalism pretty much equates to natural selection which is the inherent force of evolution, life and thus the universe itself, it's pretty hard to argue against it the laws of physics you retarded fucking nigger kill yourself, good goy n shit nigga fuck you, however, sound there certainly is a role to be played by the state in economics, now this however, is when we get into the nitty gritty of policies and extremely complex mathematics, which regardless shouldn't make us turn to ideological fundamentalism, let's see disagreement as the beatiful expression of the dialectic which it is, now next question, i'm 200% woke

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>>131626305
Please, notice that only one of those three are gonna be obese with hypertension and diabetes.
Just saying.

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>>131626305

One paid for and created the ingredients, the other did the baking, and they are both generous enough to give some to Leroy and his 4 illegitimate children who did absolutely nothing.

Seems about right, except that the "poor" in the USA all seem to be morbidly obese, have 800$ phones, 60" TVs, 200$ sneakers, and 100$ worth of fake hair on their woolly heads.

>>131626436
You're retarded. There is no such thing as a free market outside of textbooks. The capitalists will ALWAYS take the power of government and bend it to their own ends. It's a literal prerequisite for capitalism.

Go cut your own balls off you fucking moron libertarian fuckwit.

>>131626305
Poor black lady should sell her gold earring to buy some pie tbqh.

>>131626305
still better than everyone starving kek

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>>131626305
>not taking *all* of your money at gunpoint is considered a bonus
your whipped cream analogy is fucking shit bucko

>>131630146
Give me any political ideology and I'll show you a state that cannot exist.

Historically capitalism is the closest thing to perfect that we've got.

>>131627437

show your true flag so we know which nation to laugh at

>>131627712
>Relative poverty
Our poor are fat you dumb kraut loving faggot

>>131630146
How is it a prerequisite comcuck?

> Amerilards will defend the job creators meme

Fucking bootlickers, the lot of you

Real free market libertardian capitalism will never happen for the same reason communism won't happen - human nature. It is in the interest of the rich to influence politics with their money, (((political campaign donations))) and (((lobbying))). Hell, the American supreme court basically legalised bribery when they said money = free speech, basically handing over elections to the uber rich.

Our model of capitalism is inherently flawed because people will always be influenced by money - the free market never has existed or will exist. It's just a meme sold to you by rich cunts like the Koch brothers so they get tax cuts.

> inb4 I get called a commie

>>131630711
Why the fuck do people keep bitching about tax cuts in the american system? The problem isn't the fucking tax rate, it's loopholes in a needlessly complex system. You could set the tax rate at 90% for the rich and they still would play little to nothing. "Tax cuts" is a manufactured political talking point to make sure the economical issue never gets solved.

>>131630972
Because rich people are obscenely wealthy - it's staggering and never before in human history has there been such a disparity in wealth why some languish in poverty.

> The problem isn't the fucking tax rate, it's loopholes in a needlessly complex system.

Don't tell me you support a flat tax

>>131626749
Do you even Lichtenstein bro?

>>131630711
>Bootlicker
probably a commie
>inb4 commie
HMMMM

Anyway, I think you misunderstand what the free market is. The free market is the vision of a market with perfect competition, not a market without regulation like libertarian retards will have you believe. the latter is just some gay meme ideologues made up.

>>131626305
>the free market has failed, capitalism is evil
>brb phone call on my iphone
>oh snap, time to go out with that girl from tinder
>i gotta get a ride from uber
>oh, need to book a room on hotels.com
>i should stop by starbucks
>let me pick up that harry potter book
>time to update my status on facebook and twitter

>>131629293
the state enables fractional reserve banking which is literally counterfeiting and bankrupting families (see 2008 financial crisis).

>>131626436
Of course it isn't. America is an aristocratic system that fakes being capitalist. Those that succeed are almost universally those coming from money in the first place, and much backpatting was had.

>>131626305


>>NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> MOST OF THE RICH PEOPLE IN RICH
>>AREAS ARE DEMOCRATS IN DEMOCRAT
>>AREAS.

>>131626305
>implying that the pie is finite

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>>131630711
communism has happened and it killed hundreds of millions of people

>>131626305
Another "1 post by this ID"
sage this shit

>>131626305
>Man who has provided more value to society has more tokens to obtain valuable goods and services from other people.
What's the problem?

>>131631502
You can't debate my points so you call me a commie, brilliant

>>131631328
my point is that there never will be a free market because it is in the rich's interest to stack in their favour to screw over the little guy

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>>131626305
Compare to socialism style

>>131631154
I support a tax code that doesn't require it's own industry to interpret and that favors people rich enough to hire armies of accountants and lawyers so they pay little to nothing into the countries coffers.

All the current tax code does is put more pressure on entrepeneurs and regional businesses, both of which drive the economy and provide very necessary competition to the multi-national corporations people constantly bitch about.

Honestly, you talk about collusion between the government and corporations, but your only options to deal with those big corporations is to either 1) rely on the government to regulate against the corporations that pay them or 2) allow the free market to create competition against them. One of those options is feasible, the other is not.

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>>131627329
remove the government and the kikes can't use the power of the state to control you or anyone.

>>131627304
>norway
>finland
>sweden
>iceland
>germany
All social democracies. Take your stone age glasses off and stop connecting anything that's not AnCap retarded as communist. There is nothing wrong with universal healthcare.

>>131631718
> allow the free market to create competition against them
> feasible

the (((free market))) is a fucking meme. It will never exist and never has existed in history.

> I support a tax code that doesn't require it's own industry to interpret and that favors people rich enough to hire armies of accountants and lawyers so they pay little to nothing into the countries coffers.

Ok, what does that look like?

>>131626305

poor and middle class plates should be switched because the poor get a shit ton of money in food stamps.

>>131627394
You sound like a communist.

>>131631641
Fair point.

>>131631581
>more value to society
Is that why college students can't pay their student debts and have to pay 1 million dollars for an antidote?

Liberations are worse than Christfags
>j-just let the free market sort everything out
>j-just let god sort everything out
Truly the ultimate cucks, afraid to actually do anything yourself and just want to let everything take care of itself.

>>131631907
>the <insert political ideology> is a fucking meme. It will never exist and never has existed in history.

>Ok, what does that look like?

I'm actually alright with a flat tax, but it doesn't have to be. It DOES need to be reasonable simple and can't have loopholes for people to exploit. Less taxation is preferable and even if you cut taxes for the super rich, just closing the loopholes would go a long way. Give the super rich a 20% tax cut and you'll still be bringing in WAY more revenue than we currently are.

The best possible option for the world is Global Rhine Capitalism under a single government.

>>131630146
>It's a literal prerequisite for capitalism

i know you're just trolling, but go ahead and explain yourself out of this statement

>>131632412
> Give the super rich a 20% tax cut and you'll still be bringing in WAY more revenue than we currently are.

You've fallen for their Jewish tricks, well done

I know you've probably watched a few 8 minute Milton Friedman videos and think you know economics, but right here you're just talking straight up bullshit.

Look up the Laffer Curve before you tongue the anus of rich people who are scamming you with their meme ideas.

>>131631907
The free market is an unattainable goal we strive for so that the economy can work more efficiently. Just dismissing it because it never will truly exist is dangerous.
>>131632218
>mami y do i have to pay bak loans? life unfair !! :(

>>131632753
Ignored the question as always. Typical ancap.

>>131632656
>You've fallen for their Jewish tricks
>Because if the Jews controlled everything, they definitely haven't set up the system we have now

Jesus you're fucking dense. I've never watched anything by Friedman. It's not rocket science. All it takes is having enough brain cells to rub together.

>>131632874
The gadsden flag is about liberal nationalism boyo. I'm no faggy ass ancap.

He is rich because he is smart and worked hard( or atleast his parents did). The others quite simply, didnt. Now ofcourse poeple live in different enviornments some of ehich are more conducive to success, but life simply is just not fair.

>>131626979
The 1% backs both parties. You live in a plutocracy and don't even realize it.

>>131633060
Hahaha, do you jack off to Milo?

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>>131629230
Congratulations

You are a retard

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>>131626305
You spelled "Jews" wrong.

>>131632218
In the UK "not being able to pay student debt" isn't a thing, you only pay back a percentage when you earn over a certain amount and if you don't earn over that amount the debt gets wiped after 30 years.

And even if it didn't work like that student loans aren't a failure of society. Being a student doesn't count as working, you're making other people work for you. If you're going to take without giving back then obviously you should expect to be in debt.

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>>131626305

>>131631357
Wow, it's almost like the state and private corporations go hand in hand! Who would have known!

>>131626305
Australia, US, Canada, New Zealand, UK, Switzerland. What do all of those countries have in common? All are rich and real capitalist.

Now compare it to Venezuela or Vietnam or North korea and China

>>131633180
No Milo is a stupid attention whore. I jack off to Reagand speeches, and Friedmans lectures.

>>131627394
Jesus fucking christ what a cancerous post

>>131630454
Capitalism isn't some evil boogeyman, but it's far from the "best system" available to us. If we don't reign in the excesses of capitalism for a more equitable distribution of resources, collapse is the inevitable result. The wealthy are fine with this, as their fortunes will buy them safety. But for the rest of us, it's the worst case scenario.

Libertarian retards seem to have trouble remembering that the market isn't free, the market has all sorts of exceptions and special privledges for the wealthy. But they never argue against those. They only support a "free market" approach when it's giving the rich people what they want at the expense of everyone else. In every other case, it's "socialism" taking from the "job creators" to fund the "parasites".

Disgusting people really, they are incapable of being intellectually honest and consistent, because their entire philosophy was dreamt up to benefit the wealthy.

mmmmmnope
try again, explaining how what's depicted is either true OR capitalism

>>131626305
>wealth is a pie

Yeah, nah, we don't play zero sum game here. Just because some people are rich that doesn't mean they've taken away it from you.

>>131633251

They're overwhelmingly white ?

>>131633184
Poor shitpost. 0/1488

Go away commiefag and take that retarded lookin' stick with you.

>>131632571
The government is needed to enforce private property.

>>131626305

>Middle class with 2 children
>Poor with 4 children

What Are They Trying To Say??

>>131633367
Kill yourself retard ancuck

>>131633251
>Australia
>Canada
>New Zealand

All those countries have universal healthcare and cheap education.

>>131633338
I don't think communists believe in this race thing you are talking about :

>>131633369
>The government is needed to enforce private property.

it absolutely is not. but keep going, i'd like to hear an explanation as to why a state in the only one who can do such a thing

>>131633429
What the fuck do you think capitalism and socialism is?

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>>131626305
WTF I hate the poor now

Also,
>Rich = White
>Poor = Black
>Middle Class = whtie woman with Mulatto kids
No, the left isn't racist at all.

>>131633369
That how did cavemen decided who the hunted boar belongs to? Are you retarded? Your power is the only thing needed to enforce private property.

>>131628418
No wonder why commies don't understand economics. They've literally learned shit that isn't true.

>>131631339
Ahh

The idiot's rebuttal to any socialist argument.

>>131626305
>Having kids you can't afford
>Having more kids than parents, compounding the problem for future generations

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>>131633555
Good argument.

>>131633469
Because the state is a third party that both workers and owners are willing to give legitimacy to.

>>131633503
Cavemen? You mean hunter gatherers? It turns out that they SHARED the hunted boar: it did not belong to a single person.

>Your power is the only thing needed to enforce private property.

Unless your power, as a capitalist land-owner, is not great enough and you are beaten by worker militias.

>>131626578
Why don't I see millionaires working on construction sites?

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Capitalism always wins, even if it's only on the long run.

>>131626305
That slice of pie is more than enough for a single woman. She'll get fat if she eats the whole thing. She should share it with her kids.

>the poor black people don't get any
Good, I don't care about black people. Stop trying to make me care about those savages who refuse to assimilate.

>>131633296
Do you honestly believe that corruption doesn't exist outside of capitalism? Capitalism is the only system that reliably allows people to fulfill what the general populace actually needs. Socialism, communism, corporatism, monarchy, etc are all just codified tyranny. They aren't any more immune to corruption or malfeasance. If you want to give everyone a better life, the only reliable way to do it is to empower them, not control them.

Good goys... keep fighting amongst yourselves...

:)

>>131633614
"You are using services and goods created by the government so you can't be an ancap haha checkmate"

Do you see how ridiculous this argument is? It's not like socialists, communists, and anarchists have any choice - we NEED electronic devices to communicate.

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>>131626305
>wealthy person takes 100% of the risks and get 75% of the rewards
>welfare negrum takes 0% of the risks and gets 5% of the rewards, also has welfare safety net paid for by everyone else
>put in zero effort, expect same rewards as people hustling and putting in huge amounts of effort

THIS IS WHY YOU'RE POOR OBAMANIQUIA

>>131633503
You serious? How many people in your family is ready to defend your single flat? You do know that if there was no drawback coming and killing you and or your family, people would do it....

Hey!! Why don't poor people get tax cuts?

Well in order to get your taxes cut, you must pay taxes to begin with.

>>131629712
>We don't live in Capitalist society, when the fed owns 1/3 of the US, we don't have free markets, 50% of every transaction is manipulated by government. We live in a socialist society-
Practically a Soviet one.
I mean, what were the equivalent figures for the USSR?

>>131626305
Why isn't that nigger at the end of the table serving everyone else?

>>131633959
roughly 100%

>>131633947
Pretty much this. The picture is dishonest, because the negroid would have a lot of government assistance, paid for by the rich of course. That welfare is coming from somewhere, and the middle class does not make enough to sustain all those ooga boogas.

>>131629230
> If banks fail in the free market, they go under.
Gj now hundreds of Jims and Joes lost all their savings and their homes because some bankster was pushing for his yearly bonus.

This thread is getting boring.

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>>131626436
The market will fail if the banks aren't bailed out.
All the problems that caused the great recession have not been fixed, and have since been rolled back. The banks did not invest their surplus into the economy, to the workers, but instead have used them on the stock market in corporate schemes.

We're due for another crisis. The Great Recession almost halted the entire global market. When the next one comes, porky will have little choice but to bail everyone out again, or else suffer the worst economic depression in the history of man. This is how late capitalism functions.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevekeen/2017/06/28/there-is-no-excuse-for-janet-yellens-complacency/#6c76dd80430e

>>131626436
except that will never happen in a capitalist system because powerful companies will control regulation and the market itself.

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>>131633419
You first.

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>>131634055
>Yeees, good little prole- I mean proud white man
>It is all the fault of the negros! They are at fault for everything!

>>131626305
>it's as if the government provides everyone with that wealth, but only chooses to give it to the rich

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>>131626305
>give us free shit

Life isn't fair, either get better or get left behind

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>>131626305
Poor: single black woman lots of kid kids
Middle class: single white woman, couple kids
Rich: single white male no kids

Virtue signaling anyone?

>rich single black women without children don't exist
>women in general are poor
>only men benefit from capitalism
>only whites benefit from capitalism
>capitalism is about hording wealth
>the poor and middle class are looking to the rich for their gibs (wrong system)

I mean there are people out there that see this cartoon and unironically think this is how the world works. Many such cases, SAD!

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>>131634095
>The market will fail if the banks aren't bailed out

False.

>>131634077
Assets get liquidated and distributed and the only people who lose are said banksters for being shitheels.

>>131634270
Yes, they are. I'm not poor. I have a comfy job doing what I love and I get paid well. They are poor because they're black. Black people don't like to work. There's no way to fix their race.

Capitalism raise 1 Billion people out of poverty in the 20th century

Your turn

>>131634114
Right. When powerful companies go belly up, their competitors will come and bail them out right? They won't just collapse and fail. Right?

Jesus do you hear yourself???

>>131634425
Communism killed 94 million. Take that!

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>>131628418
Leave now and never come back

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>>131626305
>Black Family
>Single Mom
>White male

They are getting more brazen by the day

>>131633296
>distribution of resources

Let's just call it what it is, stealing

You want to steal from those who have worked for what they have, and give it to those who don't have the capability to earn it

You are rewarding weakness, which is a death spiral for any society

>>131626305
>country's wealth is treated as a dessert to be given away
thinking like that is what led my country to become what it is today

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>>131626305
>the amount of overall wealth is static and never grows

This is why no-one takes you fuckers seriously.

>>131626305
If the person who created the wealth doesn't get more of it then others, he will not create it to begin with and nobody will have wealth.

>>131628964
so in reality socialism is actually the transition phase between capitalism and an even more dysfunctional form of capitalism?

Yfw when communism is also jewish. You know there is a lot of natsoc on /pol/

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>>131633296
t. r/politics

But without the rich guy there would be no pie. A pie is not a chunk of the capital, a pie created by an inventor or industrialist is making a whole new pie.

What happened was the rich man made a pie and invited the middle class to have some. The poor people showed up to beg and crash the party.

>>131626656

>all the plates would be empty

not really. There wouldn't be a middle class, the poor folk would be pretty much as depicted here. The rich dude would be renamed "oligarch" and the state would still be the elephant.

There's still ways to become billionaire in socialism, sould would say it's easier because once you make something the state can't really take, regulate and doesn't want to take it off the streets, you'll face no competition whatsoever.

>>131634077
I get that I would lose my savings but why would I lose my home if the bank goes under

The problem is you see communists are controlled by the same people.

>>131634304
You will get left behind very soon once the next financial crisis hits, bucko.

>>131634409
You might very well think that they are poor because of their race, but let me ask you this: have you ever... talked to a black person? Had a conversation with one of these "vile negroes"? Have you actually gotten to know a black person? If you havem then you'll know that they're humans, just like you. Often their material circumstances, which are the result of centuries of economic and political oppresion, inhibit them from bettering their lives: they, like many poor white and hispanic people, are trapped in a system that simply is not fair to them. They have no bootstraps to pull on.

>>131634760
By going through the bank to get a house you really couldn't afford.

>>131633919
If you are over 16, kys

>>131633541
Markets are literally a social construct but okay. You ridiculous libbotarians keep acting as if capitalism is just human nature. If you'd actually read a history book you'd know you're wrong.

>>131634683

I also forgot that once the pie is cut and handed out the rich man loses an additional 30%, the middle class 25%, and the poor loses nothing but gains the gibs.

>>131634376
Because when a bank goes bankrut surely it has enough asset to repay for the losses. Oh wait, it doesn't make sense or the bank wouldn't be bankrut.

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>>131626305

>depicting niggers as poor.

DID HE JUST ASSUME THEIR FINANCIAL STATUS?! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>131634588
A politically corrupt dystopia ruled by capitalist lackeys?

>>131634828
Commie your movement is controlled by (((them))) just like capitalism it's not the GOP alone either it's the uni party, the only answer is protectionism and nationalism.

>>131634828
>blah blah blah I'm a poorfag
You wrote so much shit and I'm not reading it.

You know, if we killed all the poor people, there wouldn't be any commies. That would be cool

>>131634948
(((Social construct)))

>>131634833
You mean any house? Because sure as hell no one from the middle class has 300k cash minimum

>>131626305
>the poor has 2x as man kids as the middle class

liberal doodler self-awareness level: 0

>>131634578
Land was once stolen by the powerful from communal farmers.

Surplus value is continually being stolen from workers by capitalists, workers who simply do not have a choice BUT to work.

>>131634683
Exactly

I would love to see Commies try to run these companies and see how "easy" it is

The world needs these rich douchebags, like it or not

If you disincentivize people from creating great wealth and great companies, people will simply stop being productive, stop competing, stop creating, and it leads to the inevitable death spiral of every communist nation

>>131635013

It is ruled by socialist nutjobs, sorry.
They're trying to subvert capitalism (by exploiting it) in order to justify a socialist revolution later.

You commies are the masters of dialetics.

>>131634948
>read one of our (((books))) so we can tell you what to think, goy
yeah no thanks. Communism failed everywhere that it was tried.

>>131634828

Clearly you have not
>Work at car dealership
>Black kid gets given a shot
>immedietly begins stealing fluids and tools from shop
>Washes his car on the clock
>Late everyday and holds up work
>His uncle is shop manager and overlooks it

Working with blacks is the biggest redpill. Never had this problem with any other minority I have worked with.

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>>131634362
>"Because 30 million Americans had deposits in money market funds totaling $3.5 trillion. If there is a panic and a run on the money market funds, not only did those people get hurt, but those funds were used to finance short-term operations of major companies.

>"I had a call from one AAA company, where the CEO told me the treasurer said we’re not going to be able to make our $800 million quarterly dividend payment. You could just see very quickly if the big companies don’t have the financing to pay their suppliers how that ripples through the economy. Small companies go down.”

And when Lehman fell, it dropped the Dow by 500 points. 7 million Americans lost their homes in the Great Recession. You really think the global system would survive when you let the major credit institutions flat out tank?

This is the nature of capitalism. It simply isn't stable.

>>131634839
Not an argument

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>>131634948
>social construct
please stop with your liberal buzzwords.
>You ridiculous libbotarians keep acting as if capitalism is just human nature.
You silly communist fucks are talking about shit you don't know anything about. Pick up a basic Economics book and stfu. I guarantee that 99% of your arguments will be BTFO by a subject progressing for thousands of years.
> If you'd actually read a history book you'd know you're wrong.
>Doesn't know I double majored in Accounting and Finance with almost enough credits to have a US history degree as well.
WEWLAD commies are fucking stupid.

>>131634828
>material circumstances
fuck off with your meaningless jargon. these people have immense amounts of resources dumped into giving them unfair educational advantages, giving them hosing, nutrition, healthcare, upgrading the neighborhoods that become dilapidated and filthy simply by their presence. after all these trillions of dollars they've been the beneficiary of, you illiterate reds think they need more?

>>131634948
You know what is human nature?

Rape, murder, destruction, chaos, war, poverty, starvation, death.

I'm sure that is your ideal communist utopia, let's get back to human nature.

>>131635166
>The world needs these rich douchebags, like it or not
Without the rich, the poor wouldn't even have jobs and would literally starve to death if they're not smart enough to start their own business (most poor people aren't smart at all, which is why they're poor in the first place)

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>>131626305
Capitalism has not existed for over 100 years.

>>131634077
Now everyone trusts every bank, because everyone knows, that they will get their money back, even if the bank goes bankrupt. If this guarantee is not given by the government, the costumers are forced to search the most transparent and best bank with a low probability to get bankrupt. Also, the banks are encouraged to build trust through responsibility.

>>131626305
A part of a good cake is still better than a whole burnt and poisoned cake.

>>131634362
Banks are the fuel of a capitalistic society. Without them you can't buy houses, cars or open a busines unless your family has saved for 4+ gen.
Why the hell do you think banks are so important? Oh yeah the Jew's boogieman

>>131635013
>companies funded by the state in a market completely sanitized from external influence and competition risks are capitalist
your flag already speaks for you, no need to try so hard

>>131635219
>ignores the 100 million plus dead through communism
>ignores the fact that it has never been successful
Kys

>>131626305
back to your shithole, russian subhuman

Commies are controlled by (((them just like capitalists. The only solution is protectionism and nationalism.

>>131635000
The bank still holds property. ALL bank and owners assets are liquidated and people get paid back because the bank broke their contract by employing poor business practices. No golden parachutes.

If the government is going to bail about ANYONE in that situation, it should be reimbursing any difference there might be for the people who had capital in the bank.

>>131635126

Not hard to buy a house with cash
>go to college, graduate, make 60k
>spend 1.5yr paying debt
>promoted to 70k
>put half my income in savings for 4 years
>5.5 years after grad buy a four bedroom house for 140k.

Such is life not in a shitty city.

>>131634594
>I don't know what a metaphor is

>>131626305
Niggers being poor? No shit they're niggers, it's the middle class getting fucked and lastly the dude sitting at the republican table would only make sense if he were wearing his fucking Yamaca and the faggot nigger democrat donkey was serving dinner.

>>sage in all fields!

>>131635354
To be more accurate, this also needs to account for benefits paid back.
If I paid 4 dollars in taxes and received 12 dollars back in benefits, did I really pay in at all?

>>131626305
Reminder that "the people against the elites" is populist, and every leftist party in the world is populist except they are never called that because the people controlling the discourse are psychotic leftist suicidalists.

Blaming the rich for the poor is no different than blaming a student who gets an A on his exam for a student who gets a F.

>>131635065
How is the socialist movement controlled by jews? What would they want? Are you evem listening to yourself?

>>131635076
>I'm not reading it

That seems to be the general attitude of capitalist apologetics.

I'm actually a (((middle class college student))), so I'm not poor, but I actually have this crazy thing called sympathy.

>>131635117
Not an argument

>>131635175
Temer is a socialist nutjob?

>You commies are the masters of dialetics.

Thank you :)

>>131635202
And capitalism was of course 100% succesful, nothing ever went wrong under capitalism, no criticisms. You do realize that a lot of jews support capitalism, right? This whole "jews want communism" schtick is getting friccin old, dude. Find something new.

>>131635212
Such bad behavior is not innate in race, it is the result of culture. And culture is the result of material circumstances. The reason african-americans are statistically more prone to stealing is not because they are black, but because they are poor.

Commies are controlled by (((them))) too just like the capitalists. Nationalism/protectionism only answer.

>>131635126
You don't solve that problem by taking out loans. That's just idiotic. You do what people have always done and you make things work and you vote in people who have plans to fix the housing market instead of shooting yourself in the foot and allowing the broken system to continue propping itself up.

>>131635215

The system is the caterpiller that climbs up the wall by five units and slides back one. It exists based on booms and busts. It grows out of control then bursts, from all of the failed businesses it then exponentially grows again. Every growth cycle we go further.

At the end of the day no ground is lost.

>>131635662

No, Temer is a neoliberal about to get wrecked, but a breath of fresh air neverthelss. He's not responsible for any of this shit this country is going thru.

>>131635668
I can't wait for the first NatSoc candidate to be in a presidential debate and answer every question with "THE JEWRY!!"

>>131626305

Capitalism is still the most successful system ever created

>>131635688
Your retarded have you seen how successful business work they utilise loans or debt.

I do agree that the government propping up banks is a bad idea.

>>131634828

>You might very well think that they are poor because of their race, but let me ask you this: have you ever... talked to a black person?

You do realise that the concepts of racial superiority and inferiority are born primarily out of such experiences?
And stop pretending that black people are victims of a system, they actually have far more options in western countries than they do when left to their own devices.

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>>131630018
>capitalism pretty much equates to natural selection
>s pretty hard to argue against it the laws of physics you retarded fucking nigger

>Horsey cartoon
>doesn't even have hot redneck girls

Get out.

>>131633840
>monarchy
Is a political system not an economical.
Besides, it was proven time and time again that tyranny is the best form of government.

>>131635514
The pie metaphor has been debunked and disproven for a century. And yet the marxists still cling to it, because it's the concept that their entire ideology is built on. The economy isn't a pie, it's more comparable to a bakery.

>>131634828
The only thing blacks are the victims of is natural selection.

>>131635892
We're not talking about businesses. We're talking about housing. Joe Blow wants a house that he can't afford so he goes down to the bank and gets a loan. Multiply that by 7 million and you've got a recipe for disaster. It's poor form on the part of the banks and it's poor form on the part of Joe Blow.

>>131635662

You are ignoring the difference between poor latinos/whites/asians/indians and poor blacks.

>>131635662
>Temer is a socialist nutjob?
Tell me he is right-wing so I can laugh at you.
>>131635845
>neoliberal
PMDB is not much different from PSDB, social democrats who merely pretend to oppose the workers party and put a facade of different ideological position in their mandates that slow down the socialist development of the country, but never reverse it

>>131635662
Jill (((STEIN))) Bernie (((SANDERS))) are your top politicians. All of hillary's top donors were Jews even though she had to pander to non whites who usually sympathize with Palestine. While trump is the biggest Zionist in history and told them to fuck off. Face it your movement just like capitalism is compromised and a matter of fact has always been dominated by Jews it historically a fact. Just because it's only seen on college campuses now doesn't change the past. You know nationalism/protectionism ethno states within the US is the only solution. We have a stable demographic right now and I don't know how long that will last so we should work together smash (((them))) all.

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>>131628964

USSR went from socialism to Putin

the revolution is done comrade.
Hasta la Victoria Siempre.

>>131636088
Yes, for tyrants.

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>>131635065
Protectionism isn't going to take you very far when ~40% of jobs are replaced by robots by 2030. It will also end up hurting your average consumer/worker.

>In 2017, US workers are not competing with low-wage foreign labor, capital, and technology, as they did in the 1970s. Rather, they are competing with a nearly unbeatable combination of low-wage foreign labor and US knowhow. One way to conceptualize this is to think of US products as being made not in the US, but in Factory North America. The goods made in Factory North America must compete with goods made in Factory Asia, Factory Europe, and so forth.

>This means that if the Trump administration imposes tariffs, it will turn the US into a high-cost island for industrial inputs. Firms might be induced to move some production back to the US, if it is strictly aimed at US consumers. But they will be equally encouraged to offshore production that is aimed at export markets, so that they can compete with Japanese, German, and Chinese producers outside of the US.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/02/us-protectionism-wont-work-this-is-why

Nationalism isn't going to take you very far when the conflict is primarily between socioeconomic classes.
You might find a new boogeyman to blame; hell, you might even eliminate this boogeyman, but the underlying problems are going to stay.

>>131635604
This analogy only makes sense if we assume that both students have the same resources available to them for the test.
That isn't the case. Social mobility is fucked and this doesn't account for the amount of inherited fortune.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/social-mobility-memos/2015/01/30/wealth-inheritance-and-social-mobility/

http://www.businessinsider.com/billionaires-who-inherited-their-money-2016-1

>>131635374
Because every consumer has a perfect set of information and bank can't just hide npl in good financials asset delaying the crash until the next CEO.

>>131635688
The broken system is capitalism. You breed financial shark and expect to not cheat when they have all the power.
The system is geared to work at a consumption level that is not sustainable for the average Joe. Why do you think you can pay your iPhone in 30 months?

>>131635292
>liberal buzzwords
I'm not a liberal, I'm a communist.

>basic Economics
i.e. the only economics a capitalist apologetic understands.

>>Doesn't know I double majored in Accounting and Finance
Wow congratulations: you can help banks make more money. What a good person you are!

>enough credits to have a US history degree
>US history
I meant more world/european history. Although I should note that the Native Americans had no notion of private property or private land. Natives had personal possessions, of course, but private property is something different.

>>131635318
They don't need more money, they need work, good living environments, good schooling, and control of workplaces.

>meaningless jargon
How exactly is it meaningless jargon? It's an often used term in the social sciences - oh wait, you're too dumb to even understand it.

>>131635322
All those things you described are happening RIGHT NOW. They're not happening in your neighborhood, sure, but that doesn't mean they are not happening.

>>131635392
Companies funded by the state =/= socialism.

Socialism is workers' control of the means of production.

>>131635404
>ignored the hundreds of millions dead under capitalism
>ignores the starvation, oppression, and inequality caused by capitalism
>ignores climate change caused by capitalism
>ignores child labor
>ignores planned obsolescence.

Stay a classcuck if you want to be: capitalism will fall in about 30 or so years, it's an unsustainable system.

>>131626305
>People who have a lot of money have a majority of money
The duh heard round the world

>>131636290
Because the average joe is too stupid to save and pay for phone up front. Because the average joe is buying products he should not be buying because they are too expensive.

>>131626305
>live in system that allows for corporationism
>whine capitalism doesn't work
Also
>what is 80/20 rule

>>131635662
it doesn't matter if capitalism is 100% successful. it has had some successes, meanwhile multiple approaches to socialism have empirically failed and left widespread death and misery in their wake orders of magnitude worse than anything that ever happened under capitalism.

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>>131634828
>Such bad behavior is not innate in race, it is the result of culture. And culture is the result of material circumstances. The reason african-americans are statistically more prone to stealing is not because they are black, but because they are poor.

This is true. Race is a meme, crime levels across countries, counties, cities or whatever level you want can always be predicted by the gap between rich and poor. The bigger the gap, the more crime. ALWAYS

>>131636104

A fundamental difference between the thinking patterns seems to be this:

The radical left impose their idealism upon reality, with disastrous results, and the right draw their understandings from experience and observations of reality.

>>131634311
>Middle class: single white woman, couple kids
you mean a white single mom with racemixed children aka a coal burner and a roastie.

>>131636120
Then why be afraid of them? Clearly natural selection will take care of them.

>>131636290
I wouldn't know. I don't have an iphone. I don't go into debt over stupid shit and the reason we have such a disparity between the cost of things and what people can afford is not due to capitalism, it's due to corporatism. Capitalism has to go through corrections, many times these are painful. Still the best system we have.

>>131634114


So your solution to this circlejerk is to merge corporate and government power completely via socialism, pardon, state capitalism?

>being this retarded

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>>131626305
At least post the original.

>>131636253
No it's between race it just pans out like that now thanks to (((the strength now as diversity))). Middle class is still 80% white not Jewish or hispanic. We should end all immigration to stop the stagnation of wages and to keep housing prices from rising,keep all work in the US, make it a safe place for small business and actually reform the tax system. We collected more tax under Nixon then we do and we were paying nowhere near as much. Capitalism is unsustainable in its current form and we will suffer even more if we don't forgo some loss now.

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>>131626305
>the poor has 4 kids from at least 2 different fathers

you can't make this shit up

>>131636515

>Race is a meme

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAH.

Welp, looks like racism is impossible then.

>>131636569
nope if the gov arrest me for taking part in natural selection.

>>131636357
>Companies funded by the state =/= socialism.
>Socialism is workers' control of the means of production.
how convenient it is that it was the Workers' Party that groomed these companies all the way up to their apex today, isn't it?
but no, of course the workers party doesn't actually represent the workers and it's not le real socialsm
already said it once, will do it again: your flag already speaks for you, no need to embarass yourself any further

>>131636357
social "sciences" are the epitome of meaningless jargon. they have been given the greatest material circumstances in the entire history of their ethnicity and have squandered it, giving them more more more will only leave them worse off you complete failure.

>>131636440
But if the Average joe doesn't buy the iPhone with the financial plan the company goes under, people sells their shares and everything crash.
Do you think we can sustain the current house, car, electronic, etc. market without taking loans?

>>131636357
>capitalism will fall in about 30 or so years, it's an unsustainable system.
Says increasingly nervous man for thousandth time

Capitalism is the only system that promotes growth. Scientific advancement comes from scientists and researchers being rewarded. To those based on their need from those based on their ability will always drag progress down and lead to stagnation. The USSR did better than any socialism could because it rewarded people who built things, this is not present in communism.

>>131636696
Look dude you came in here talking about Brazil. If the worker's party did that then obviously they are not a socialist party, but a SOCIAL-DEMOCRATIC (i.e pro-capitalist) party.

>>131636569

>Then why be afraid of them? Clearly natural selection will take care of them.

Humans are part of natural selection...
Being concerned about an existential threat and dealing with said existential threat = natural selection at work.

Ok many things are said , so in the end what is the best system human species should live in?
God damn this fucking thread

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>>131636198
Commies don't trust Stein or Sanders. The former is nothing but a eco-liberal, the former is nothing more than a social democrat who once had potential. They really see them as stepping stones.

The big leftist sweethearts atm are Corbyn & Melechon.

You also aren't going to convince any commie that the Jews are responsible for communism. The narrative is as old as communism itself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism

>>131635796
>At the end of the day no ground is lost.
Tell that to the 8 million Americans who lost their job during the Great Recession, and the 15 million who lost it during the Depression. New Deal programs and Bailouts are the inevitable end of any major crisis. Otherwise people lose faith in the system.

>>131632904
YEAH IF WE JUST TAX PEOPLE LESS THEN THE ECONOMY WILL GROW

except that has literally never happened

All Reagan did was balloon the deficit because he was convinced of (((Supply side economics))) by a drawing on a handkerchief (true story look it up)

>>131636216
For everyone. We had monarchies until last century, and everything was well, a century of democracy and the world is in ruins.
Ever heard "Democracy is the tyranny of the majority"? Stupid people deciding what's good for everyone is not going to work. The masses should be content with having shelter, having food, having entertainment and being able to continue their bloodline, they have absolutely no need for political powers.

>>131636687
How is the retard life treating you?

>>131636579
It's the best system we have because after Reagan and Thatcher everyone stopped thinking about a better system and started sucking the corporation dick

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>>131636515
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>>131636687
It is. Crime is caused not by being black but by income disparity, this is a fact and occurs all over the world and at any level you want to look at

>>131636658
>>131636658
Serves them right for going after Tyrones and Chads in their youth instead of finding good husbands.

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>>131636740
Yes,We Can.
Proof it otherwise.

>>131636784
No capitalism forces growth down everyone's throats and devolved into government throwing immigrants and money at declining industries which stagnate wages even more, then we do that again confused(after massive inflation too)on why Americans might not want to work for less than 10$ an hour.

>>131633797
>>131633797
Because they paid for the equipment, are paying the guys operating it, and also higher someone to supervise on the worksite they own to build the real estate they're investing in. Without the millionaire's money, none of the project goes forward, none of the people get paid, none of that equipment gets bought.

How fucking dumb are you?

Now if you're talking about international finance and people making money on the stock market, this is degenerate gambling and usery which gets normalized as low interest rates and high inflation erase people's wealth in the bank. It's gas-worthy behavior of the highest order.

>>131636357
>capitalism unsustainable
>meanwhile it's outlasted every single alternative presented to it
socialism is impossible. workers can't control the means of production, even the most heroic of socialist vanguards all found that out eventually.

>>131636740
>But if the Average joe doesn't buy the iPhone with the financial plan the company goes under

So what? The company may go under and be replaced. Or it may adjust to meet the needs of consumers.

Do you think we can sustain the current house, car, electronic, etc. market without taking loans?

Yes. Competition drives innovation, but it requires people to stick to common sense. If people are willing to go into debt over dumb shit, corporations will continue to overprice things.

>>131636826
Are you serious the communist party has not been historically dominated by Jews?

>>131636730
Including economics? Or is that social science suddenly okay because the mainstream wing of it supports your precious little system?

>>131636784
>Capitalism is the only system that promotes growth

Okay. Is that good? If capitalism promotes growth on a finite plante, then by definition capitalism is unsustainable.

>>131633919
It's pointing out how much you benefit from capitalism, and thus is a valid rebuttal to your "hurr durr capitalism doesn't even work lol"

>>131636794
>socialists don't use capitalist systems to advance their goals
dude I've suffered through one of the worst educational systems in the world yet I can easily assert that this is how it works.
if you aren't aware of this you're completely clueless about how socialism works outside of the common people's knowledge.

>white people can't be poor.

Spicy meme.

>>131636165
So... A neoliberal.

>>131636826
nobody cares about convincing commies of anything, their beliefs in objectively wrong and disproven ideology show that there's nothing that can convince them

>>131636974
>the market crash every 10 years
>its a good system
How many can buy a car/house with cash?

>>131636357
Come back in 10 years when your balls drop and you aren't living on daddy's money, and tell us how great communism is. Your arguments throughout this entire thread are "I know you are but what am I." A child.

>>131629904
The goyim should have had a chef's hat, implying it was a pie that they created in the first place.

>>131637021
our current system of capitalism is literally unsustainable

It relies of perpetual growth - the younger generation exceeding the older in number for each generation, so we should ideally get a pyramid of a population distribution. However, this implies that we need population to perpetually increase - an assumption that can't hold unless we start populating other planets.

Even now, you're seeing countries import the third world to remedy decreasing birthrates of the natives, because the system will literally collapse if we don't have enough young people to work and pay taxes so old people can get pensions and healthcare.

So yes, capitalism is literally unsustainable.

>>131637108
I never said capitalism does not work, it clearly does, but there's a lot of problems with it. Your level of argumentation is basically:
>serfs should not criticize their lords for oppressing them because the lord os allowing them to keep some of their harvest!

>>131636740

The problem is not loans it is people taking out loans for stuff they shouldn't be buying.

The housing crisis was because people were getting loans too easy that they were unqualified to pay, in some cases because the government was pushing companies to do so. So you had people buying houses they could not afford and then defaulting because they could not afford. An additional problem was the lack of people adhering to the contracts that they signed. They signed a house contract then refused to pay on the loan when the home went down in value, this is what crashed the system. Had they continued to pay on their home the home would eventually appreciate and they would be fine.

If the average joe doesnt buy iphones the company failes and nothing of value is lost.

>>131636920
God we need more Thatchers in europe. Unions are fucking everything up.

>>131637253
I'm being told commies and capitalists alike aren't controlled by (((them))) by commies on this board.

>>131633797
Because theyre feeding, clothing, sheltering, and taking care of the families and bills of the construction workers.

They risk their capital to put it into projects which they believe will add value. If it doesnt work out, they lose out on their investment. The workers still get paid for their labor though.

Dont be such a fucking idiot.

>>131637303
No you dumbfuck, it's the bankers fault for knowingly loaning out to people they know could never repay. They didn't give a shit, because they were "too big to fail" and they knew they would be bailed out.

>>131637235
Nice projecting, Bobby. Come back to me in 10 years and tell me how your finances are doing.

>>131637100
yes, including economics. there comes a time when you have to admit the least wrong system is the preferable one and your precious little utopia is only capable of destruction and misery. it'd take a religious fanatic to still advocate in favor of socialism with its track record, and that's exactly what you are mr. middle-class-college-retard ;^)