Why are men checking out of society?

>>131623846
Isn't this that college drop out BLACKED.COM whore with the floppy tits?

the pony pussy game ridiculous

it's actually a good thing.
Useless NEET beta males are becoming incel, and not reproducing. Future generations will be stronger because of this.

>>131623846
Society hates straight, white, Christian, right-wing males. Checking out? Why should they check in?

it's feminism's fault

Kendra is such a slut

>>131623846
Feminists won.

>>131624052
>>131624052
>>131624052
this.
the game is now rigged against men. some have chosen to no longer play.

>>131623846
Happening of happenings is almost here.

Who the fuck keeps making these threads?

>>131624026
>Useless NEET beta males are becoming incel, and not reproducing. Future generations will be stronger because of this.

* ahmed's future generation you mean. If you haven't noticed, white europeans are being replaced.

>>131624038
mostly this

women should never be allowed into the school system for one thing

>>131624138

It is an important social problem. What you think we should turn a blind eye to this? We'll have the Japanese hikikomori culture here in no time.

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>>131623846
Partly because of the blatant anti-male (white males) sentiment in media and academia.

But also because modernity in itself has very little to offer. There's no place for adventure or discovery. No prospects for family. No outlet for a warrior spirit. No ethics, no ideals, no glory, no worthy causes. Just bland consumerism.

>>131624118
only work of hers I halfway enjoyed was a scene she recently did with riley reid licking each other's assholes. However, Kendra's tits are already dried up and shitty looking. She sure didn't last long, guess that's what happens when you funnel nigger semen for a living

>>131623846
Give me a job

>>131623846
Because society is geared towards us. We are not going to accept that only the top 1% of us are allowed to succeed sexually and therefore socially and the rest of us either die alone or marry an ugly used up whore. Why play a game you are going to lose?

Women, namely good looking up tight sluts need to drop their standards and start fucking whats best for them(in other words which ever man grabs her first)

>>131624026
This here is also a problem. The MGTOW thing is a just a jewish form of ridding society of beta males. Guys like me who opt out still have sex with women every now and then and maintain casually relationships with people for our own benefit but ultimately we're the ones playing the system now.

You can blame feminism for all of this.

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>>131624215

Nobody takes MGTOWs seriously
they are jokes on the skeptic side of Youtube

fuck society I hope muslims will take over and just blow this fucking planet away with their IEDs xD

in case you didn't know - garbage in, garbage out - that's how our system works.

>>131623846

>Boomers trash young white males
>Tell them "you'll never be anything in life"
>Sabotage their relationships.
>Wreck the economy.
>Wonder why they don't want to be part of your shitty system.
>Bitch about how society can't function without the people you said you don't need....

Yeah, nah, fuck you cunt.........

>>131624140
>implying that's not what Sweden wants.

>>131623846
>How do we solve this?

Retinker divorce courts to not favor the woman 3 to 1 against the man for outcome.

Modern feminism has turned a large portion of women into disgusting spoiled brats. Why would any sane man subject himself to that shit rather than just wait for inevitable sexbots to surrogate pure white-race god babies?

>>131623846
In the US at least there is no benefit to associating with women anymore

Mate guarding is outlawed, your woman can cheat on our with no repercussions, MGTOW is the only smart way to go

Change the laws around women and marriage and you'll see men start producing again

>>131624324
Explain to me how baby boomers caused any of this?

>>131624120
this

>>131624215
>But also because modernity in itself has very little to offer. There's no place for adventure or discovery. No prospects for family. No outlet for a warrior spirit. No ethics, no ideals, no glory, no worthy causes. Just bland consumerism.

But that condition inevitable then. The no place for "warrior spirit" comes just from living in a rich civilized country. How else could things be arranged?

>>131623846

Who needs a GF?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slojh_o6kpw

people simply not falling for vaginal jew

Because we cant. The rich and powerful are killing us in every way they can imagine.

>>131624026
>Mehmet and Tyrones children will be stronger because of this

this is the flaw in your logic

>>131624423
t.baby boomer

>>131624294
You're essentially proving and reinforcing their point; they're removed from the male-female power politics and could care less about it.

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why fucking bother

>>131624423
Gib me dats. The idea of America just being the land of infinite gibs. Plus they lived way too long, fuckers.

>>131623846
>bring back military service for males in a reserve capacity
>bar women from entering male dominated jobs and industry
>In fact send women back to the kitchen
>Make divorce illegal
>encourage men to go into tertiary education after military service
>deny women the right to vote

I have a little 5 inch penis so I simply don't bother. Need a minimum 6.5 to maintain a girlfriend.

Our society is simply exerting the same issues Japan displays like the hikikimori.

>>131623846
because women have lost their value
no longer do you need a job to take care of a women, they don't care about having kids anymore, and they don't care about family, they just want to get drunk and fuck.

>>131624138
Chelsea manning

test

>>131624423

>Green text how boomers have screwed young white men
>Get asked how baby boomers have screwed young white men.

>>131624547

That's average penis size, friendo.

>>131623846
>Why are men checking out of society?
If you don't know the answer to this it's because you haven't experienced it yourself and then you're a fucking pleb that can fuck off.

>>131624528
>>131624528
>>131624528
this. THIS.
Make society great again.

>>131623846
Tell me how do you solve me

is it a bullet?

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>>131624655
I can't wait.

>>131624482
We need a drive or everything will ossify and decay. The things meant to placate this feeling are getting really fucked up.

Sports, academia, business are all being choked of real competition. So much fucking human chaff covering up all the wheat.

>>131624423
Baby Boomers are the generation that killed the west.

>>131624264
>The MGTOW thing is a just a jewish form of ridding society of beta males.

That doesn't make any fucking sense. Why would (((they))) want a world full of people they can't easily control? If anything there should a push for women to accept more beta males and force the chads to die out so they can control the world through video games and anime.

>>131623846
You have to be a fucking idiot to actually get married these days. Women feel way too fucking comfortable with the idea of getting divorced, and the system is stacked in their favor.

Plus, modern women are used-up by the time they're even of legal age to marry. Imagine actually spending the money on a wedding reception and engagement ring just to marry some woman who's been with other men before. Every time you kiss those lips, you know in the back of your mind that they were once wrapped around some dude's dick. Every time you stick it in her pussy, you know there's been other dicks in there before yours. How can you not feel like a cuck knowing these things?

by treating ALL porn the same way we treat child porn

>>131624691

You sound like you want a world war type situation. Only problem is, a world war will be nuclear and will take down everything with it.

>>131624547
like most women know the difference between 5" and 6.5" when 90% of them don't even know how to read a fucking measuring tape.

>>131624482
>How else could things be arranged?

Colonialism, imperialism, crusades.

>>131623846
End feminism and the constant attacks on men and western civilization, and the problem will solve itself. Why would white men want to participate in a society that is so intensely focused on ridiculing and blaming them, despite the fact that white men are responsible for making society function in the first place?

>>131624528
>Make divorce illegal

I understand current divorce rates are sky high and the destruction of the family is terrible for the children and therefore for the future society, BUT:
>what if the spouse cheats
>what if the spouse is violent
>what if...

Is really "you can never separate from that person ever again" the answer? I don't think so.

>>131624547
This. Although I'd like to use penis size as a symbol for me as a whole. There is a point where all the hate you get from people isn't worth going through for the tiny little reward you get.

>>131624623
Wrong. Average penis size is 5.5 BUT half the population don't have one so unless you're packing 11 inches your a filthy man let in my eyes

>>131624709
Start at the nucleus of society. Two ugly people somehow make a good looking one a lot of the time. More down to earth. So more pretty makes more stupid/crazy. paradox

>>131623846
They've noticed the government is importing all the welfare cases it can get, so they decide to do their patriotic duty and pitch in.

>>131624757
this is why the father of the bride should pay for the wedding
he is responsible for her actions before you take her.
if the father isn't good enough to pay, than she isnt good enough.

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>>131624859

Sweden-posting is truly the saddest form of posting.

>>131624835
>End feminism and the constant attacks on men and western civilization

Good luck with that. Would need a revolution and end democracy first then.

>>131624709
Yup, MGTOW is the exact opposite of jewish control

The jews want everyone to be enslaved to women, women are the biggest consumers, they make 90% of all purchases, and easily manipulated to do whatever the jews want them to do

It's easy to control a nation when you control the women, because most men are stupid enough to just do whatever women tell them to do

>>131624858
>Is really "you can never separate from that person ever again" the answer? I don't think so.

Spouse won't cheat if the penalty for cheating is death.

>>131624858
>Is really "you can never separate from that person ever again" the answer? I don't think so.
Thats where youre wrong buddy. Society is more important then a few bad marriages. Besides in the world we'll create people wont marry fuck heads that beat them. The idea of maintaing the nuclear family will be to important.

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Do not worry my brothers, Kekistan will be born! You shall have adventure, worthy causes, the ability to enjoy life with a family away from the globalisation of the world in a nation with a wall and turrets pointed at the SJWs and any fuckers we hate.

Personally, I am invisible to women and became aware that I can't give them what they want.
So I spend the time to make my life much better than it is now and maybe I will not be so invisible.
And this might help me get some fresh whore before she fucks up her life, not after.
I don't want to take responsibility for her actions.

>>131624709
They can still control them. Its just that they will have more successful people making more money to control.

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Women only add problems to your life. They are children in adults bodies. They are rudderless children who want an adult to lead them and fullfill them. They are an obligation, a responsibility, ... they are work. What do you get for all your work? Some pussy and some fake 'love hormones' that get your brain addicted to being with them even if they're pieces of shit.

They give up the goods easily enough that marriage, nor even a serious long term relationship is really required. I've had various different girlfriends, about 1 per year for the past 15 years. I'll tell you a secret youngfags, even the very VERY choicest pussy -- I'm talking petite asian gymnist pussy, or pale british redhead raver pussy is still not worth the trouble it eventually brings. It is fun for a while -- no pussy is worth a ring, half your income, and more than half your time.

Even then, a fleshlight doesn't want me to take it to brunch on a perfectly good Sunday mornings or waste all time. I wash it out and put in the drawer, if only women were so simple.

tldr; the juice is no longer worth the squeeze

Get the neets working on road fixing, rubbish clearing, anything that would benefit their town/city. Make it a condition of reciving neetbucks.

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>>131624950
Bingo, nature is a mo fo. Still got to keep the species alive. God damn hormones.

>>131623846

why should white men labour for their own cuckoldry?

society is set up to parasitize white men for the benefit of women and minorities. let the women and minorities do all the work.

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>>131623846

because
there
is
NO
society

>>131625090
We become rapefugees now kek

I checked out because I'm not a good candidate for reproduction. Ive got a very addictive personality weird mood swings and I've had cancer so don't really wanna pass that on or bring kids into that situation

>>131624792

It is kind of sad, that something like war is a necessary part of society. Unsatisfied men need something to prove themselves (or they over compete for women/go incel/an hero), emotional people only learn things they don't like through fear/pain, and people don't work if they don't feel they need to.

Peace might have doomed us, we're all going to be either Japan or Africa.

Free market is going to fix it.

>>131625039
Wrong
If you can't find one that accepts you for who you are when you are down in the gutter, don't even bother. because it won't end well.
My wife would follow me into the depths of hell.
I know this because I have been up and down, she was still happy even in hard times.
I married her when she was 20 and I was 25.

>>131625058
This is a sound idea, but does not address the root cause.

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>>131624521
Reinforcing their point that they're asshurt virgins who can't compete with the rest of the males. yep

>>131625187
Like women don't. ffsake if it's going to burn anyway.

>>131624757

not just that but you are paying a gigantic amount more for what she gave to other men for free

>>131623846

I can't speak for everyone, but in my case: I just don't care anymore.

I am not a womanizer, but a year ago, I dated an absolutely stunning woman. Conservative, blond, blue eyed and a beautiful body. She was interested, but I had to plan the dates all the time. There wasn't much input from her.

Women just don't put any effort in dating and to be honest, I don't blame them. The gf of a good friend of mine is a literal 4/10 and got like 200 chat requests and 4000 likes on Lovoo. Since Online Dating is a thing, every woman is chased down by hundrets of men, so why putting effort in it?

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>>131623846

self-actualization doesn't leave 14+ hours for work or family time every day

Less legacy more individualism its the sign of the times

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>>131625193

>>131623846
>Work hard.
>Lazy co-workers gets promoted instead.

I see very little reason to try hard.

>TFW a girl like OP's pic cornered me in first year university dorm
>Pushed me against the wall, unzipped my hoody slowly and purred "sexxy"
>I froze
>Completely
>She walked away
>Lived in the room next door
>Got to hear her get fucked throughout the year
>All the guys who got laid in the first few weeks got a reputation and got hot 17/18 year old first year pussy all year
>I got nothing
>because I froze

It was after first year I vowed to cure my autism. It took a few years but I've done it

>>131625057
Thanks shlomo, fuck women and fuck reproduction

>>131625408
called nepotism or he is better looking / more social than you.

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>>131625253
>you win by enslaving yourself to white roasties who will divorce you for your money cause the thirst is so strong
nope, dumbfuck. you're actually talking to people who aren't 70 iq so they can easily realize the game is rigged and simply won't play. no amount of browbeating will help you. if men can go fight in wars and die for their country then they can live humble lives of pleasure without producing children you fucking retards.

if making kids was the only purpose in life then humans wouldn't be killing each other in wars and sending 18 year old to die. before the internet age you could lie about this, but it's far beyond that.

just look at 4chan for example and huge of segments actually reject 3d women entirely :^)

>>131623846

>why aren't white men working?

we have communism with respect to race and gender.

communism erodes work because people do not get the benefit of their work. instead that benefit goes to others.

cultural marxism/communism is marxism/communism applied to race and gender instead of class.

it is having the same effect in our society that economic communism had in the soviet union.

people don't work, if that work is cucking them.

>>131625408

why don't you become lazy too if it works!

science AND experiment bitch!

>>131625253
Choosing not to compete is not the same thing as not being able to compete.

I've been laid plenty, but it was never worth it.

Once you understand what is going on, you realize that dating one sloot after the other is a huge waste of your time and only makes your life worse.

Maybe I'll get some slut pregnant when I'm older and have kids, but until then I'm not gonna waste my time.

>>131624215
This kind of. Our natural psychological instincts haven't had time to evolve with modern society. It's even worse for women. We're still a very tribal species, but our tribes are either too large or non existent. Plus you can no longer challenge the leader to trial by combat.

>>131623846
why?

its as simple as this:

human being work on incentives

when there is no inventive to checking IN to society, one would be irrational to do so

>>131625289
That's a great way to put it, actually.

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>>131625535
Got to pay for them rapefugee's and Tyrone's baby mama.

>>131623846
Make it worthwhile for men to participate in society again.

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>>131625039

Don't overthink women. They are children deep down. You can impress them with toys and your circumstances and by being somewhat decisive when it's required. You DO NOT have to go overboard trying to 'look alpha', you just exude it based on how good you feel about yourself. Not sure it can be faked.

You can be honest with them just DO NOT use them to dump you're insecurities on, that will turn them off even though they don't know why. If you need someone to dump your negative emotions on, find an ugly girl and friendzone her -- that's what chicks do to dudes and it works.

Good on you for bettering yourself though, do it for yourself first, women are a bonus. Once you love what you see in the mirror, so will they.

Also, women are very impressionable after sex. That's when all the love hormones are bonding them to you. How you treat them in this time window is how they will associate you emotionally in their brains. So fuck them hard first, make them cum, then make them feel safe and loved afterwords.

>>131625535
Not to mention all the freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit they keep pedaling.

>>131624120
>some have chosen to no longer play.
Some can't even play and just realised they were fucked from the beginning
I mean have you ever browsed /r9k/? it's full of men and I remember those "faces of /r9k/" threads and they legitimately had normal looking men..
Society is fucked

>>131625812
If they are not damaged as hell. Time window is like 15-17

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>>131623846

>How do we solve this?

Retract women's right to vote.

>>131623846
>How do we solve this?

Having sex is not even mandatory at this point.
Pay women with good genetics to bring life to beautiful babies made with sperm from smart men.

You can replace the words good/beautiful/smart of above sentence with white.

Eugenics can save the white race and even make it even more superior.

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>>131625979
Ready.

>>131624215
Video games are what fill those gaps for us.

We need danger and challenge but also need safety and stability.

>>131624118
well she is white after all
if a white women is left to her own devices, she will always gravitate towards degeneracy and sucking as many black cocks as possible

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>>131626050
SEIG HEIL

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>>131626148
> safety and stability.
Overrated.

>>131625965
there is a reason that the bible says when the bleed, and grow boobs, that they are ready for marriage and to have children.
famales were never meant to lead or teach.
they were meant to be a helper to man, and to have man's children.

>>131625058
And make them even more pissed at society?

White men are both tired of war and know the next one is upcoming and inevitable.

The only way to win the game is to not play at all

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>>131626328
He really did give it a great shot.

>>131623846
It has been tried by saying to girls looking like a whore is fine, it hasn't worked. Guess sexual education is next thing to do.

>>131625519
You need constantly new manpower to win wars. That is why whites are losing

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>>131625965
> If they are not damaged as hell. Time window is like 15-17

As in years of age?

I was talking about the time window after sex, the afterglow, where all the hormones are rushing around their brain bonding them to you. You are the most important thing in their life at those moments, and the magic of oxytocin is rewiring their brains to you.

This is why 'hookup' degenerates never cuddle after sex. And why breaking up with a long term girlfriend feels like drug withdrawal. Same reason you remember your first love just as well as you remember your first high on a certain drug.

>>131624950
>>Yup, MGTOW is the exact opposite of jewish control
>What is white genocide

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>>131623846
Here is your answer.

Also, to all you losers who don't like to associate themselves with MGTOWs despite having the same beliefs and desire to remain manchildren, you pussies fail even harder.

>>131626847
Protip: Dating white women 99% of the time does not lead to white children

>>131623950
Yeah, it is. Her actual cuckold boyfriend appears in the films as a cuckold boyfriend.

>>131626882
not an argument

no one can afford anything.

>>131626882
Wish it was that simple. They are that fucked up. Got to go bury my neighbor's cat. At least something is getting peace.

>>131623846
It's a losing game I choose not to play. You already know the other reasons.

Get rid of radical feminist "everything is raaaape" culture, fix the courts so they aren't blatantly rigged to screw the man, stop the anti-straight white male and anti-american media blitz. Right now there's massive risk and next to no reward.

>>131626882
>become a slave to women means you're a real man

Really makes you think

>>131623846
Because the system is rigged against us. I am fortunate enough to be a proffesional poker player but if was dumb enough to have to work I wouldn't participate in this system. I tried to get a job back in 2009 before my poker took off and it was horrible. They had all these programs for immigrants with subsidised employment and shit and for women they had support groups and quotas they were aiming for in all men dominated fields but for men it was nothing. It was like they told me "No, your dad and your grandpa had a job so now you can't have one. Make way for the women and the sand people white man."

>>131623846
Take women rights away.

>>131624026
>productive and industrious beta males drop out of society because women don't get pussy tingles from them
>unemployed Chads, drug dealers, niggers, terrorists and other lowlife's make the pussy wet so women procreate with them
>this will make the next generation stronger and the society will be better for it

Swedish logic, everyone.

>>131626882
>wahh why don't you marry a roastie and have some kids for her to take in the divorce
you want others to do the dirty work so you can remain a neet in your parent's bedroom forever

>>131626882

Being married and having kids is not for everybody. If you're not having kids then there's no reason to be married.

Just because you're not having kids does not make you a MGTOW

>>131623846
Rally them around National Socialism and BTFO the porn making Jews.

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Complete bullshit, most men still go to clubs and get laid and get jobs... Just because you don't doesn't mean no one does.

>>131626882
cunt or cuck detected

>>131623846
>Society cannot function with so many dropout pornosexual non-producers

Exactly. A return to normalcy would be required, the only way that happens is after a major collapse.

>>131624858
Make it the same shit as those ''what if'' abortion laws where you can get one if you were raped, the child can't be healthy etc.

You walk into a room with 10 people pointing guns at you, will you jump back and close this door ASAP, OR will you proceed walking in and get fucked over?

>>131623846
>pornosexual
there's your answer.

>>131624138
Somebody who wants guaranteed replies

>>131627010

jesus christ that is pathetic

>>131625236
I don't know. I can't really trust women in that regard.
Not even my mother, since she gives me the feeling of tolerance, not love.
>>131625812
I do it for myself though.
I am not happy with my circumstance.
That's why I am doing what I do.
Women in that regard are a bonus.

Now finding a woman who has more to offer than holes, or which is very admirable in my eyes, wants to be more than just a "woman".
Hahaha. Yeah I will let then know where they can find me while I enjoy a hopefully fulfilling life without bearing the other ones consequences.

>>131627112

>Get rid of radical feminist "everything is raaaape" culture

cuckoldry culture. or cuck culture. that's what we actually have.

>>131623846

Life isn't worth living if the woman aren't.

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>>131623846

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>>131624026

You really should go back to Israel Kike before the next Shoah!

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>>131627605
Pic related. How he can show his face in public I'll never know...

>>131623846
Just shoot your seed into whatever woman you get with. I did. Worked out luckily enough and I have 5 kids now rip.

>>131624120
you must be a pussy if you are a man, and think the whole world is against you so you drop out of society

>>131627698
You realize the jews benefit way more if you are slaves to real women than if you are slaves to porn

>>131627555
You run at them and take out what you can kid. The door closes behind you. You forgot that part.

ITT: /pol9k/

>>131627985
>t. cuck

>>131623846
>Society cannot function with so many dropout pornosexual non-producers.
Society doesnt offers anything good to them? Why should they positively contribute in it in any way?

>>131624026
Except we have a social welfare system paying the imbecile and loafish in society to reproduce and place the cost of their keep on our strongest. The opposite of what you say is actually happening. You'd think that Sweden of all people would see that.

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>>131627940
>You realize the jews benefit way more if you are slaves to real women than if you are slaves to porn

>>131628038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH1ltKsfi_Y
Kill them kill them all.

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>>131625253

Compete in what way?

I go beyond what the average even white person does and I and repremanded for it. By niggers and haters. Those that just want to see a nigger where they don;t belong. That whitey is earning his spot! I don;t like that why can't the nigger do it! Why does the cracker have to boy scout and work hard. They literally admonish you in the ATL for being a hard working white man or woman. Why? Because it makes all the lazy niggers look real bad and this is the truth. I work a technical labor job with different levels of technicality. Some workers literally ar nothing more than gophers. Some of us have real skills beyond lifting shit yet niggers never seem to ever really know their place or when to STFU and listen.

How the FUCK!!! is that EQUAL TO ME???!

>>131623846
What if we do well on our own, have a nice job, pay our bills/taxes and have a nice future except we are inept in the relationship department? What if we still jerk off, play video games with our friends occasionally and hate ourselves for being alone?

Asking for a friend.

>>131623846
>How do we solve this?
Did pol ever solve anything ?
You don't solve it just go with natural selection and eventually die out.
Its a hard pill I know but 12 year old Nazi wannabes don't stand a chance against mother nature

>>131624000
based pusy poster

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>>131627652
> Life isn't worth living if the woman aren't.

A bit extreme. Women have been viscous cunts all throughout history. See basically all plays and literature.

The only problem is now they are working en mass. Which drives incomes down and makes single earner families tougher and less attractive to start. We just live in a weird inflection point in history -- think about the thousands of years prior where women were kept in check.

>>131628108
Already posted about this earlier in the thread, but women make 90% of all consumer purchases and are easily manipulated by advertising

The jews want you slaving away for your woman, giving her your money, so she can give it all straight to the jews

Major happening there is no avoiding it now. Even the most liberal will realize how bad they fucked up.

>>131626990
Wtf, do you know how many white children is born everyday? What do you think, where do they come from?

>>131624038
Can confirm i have no reason to check in yet

>>131627856

To be perfectly honest. In a weird way it kinda makes sense for both of them. Im not defending cucks, but this is different.

Your girlfriend wanting an open relationship, or you watching her get fucked is pathetic and for ugly beta providers.

This guy isnt even bad looking and she definitely seems into him sexually (look at her body language). This seems more like:

>let her whore herself out for cash

I wouldnt take the deal, but Im sure theyre making loads of cash.

>>131628209

is that Lauren Southern?

>>131628252
Apalachin people is that what you want.

>>131627630
>I don't know. I can't really trust women in that regard.
finding a woman who is a good person is better than finding one who is beautiful
even though my wife is beautiful she doesn't really know it, because her father didn't raise her to be a beauty queen. Her father was a farmer with 6 daughters and 1 son. So she didn't feel like she was a princess and she always had to help around the house, cooking and cleaning.
Women from big families more often have a better personality.

>>131628267
Yeah, welcome to slavery

>>131628267
White slavery, get used to it.

>And so for the one millionth time that day the exact same topic had been posted

>>131628214

90%

No wonder I got sick of my X see was sucking me dry and wouldn't even give me a child. Yet I helped her for 4 years when I could with hers. (birthdays and such)

fucking woman are money pits. It totally makes sense. My mom was the one who always bought us stuff. It was my dads money but he never bought anything.


HOLY FUCK WOMAN SUCK US DRY!

>>131628252
Here's what beta cucks think when they date a white woman:

"Oh my god I got a date with a hottie, we're gonna get married and have so many white children"

Reality: You are #34 out of hundreds of guys she will date in her lifetime. She will use you for your time, money, and resources, dump you when she is finished, and the move on to the next guy.

>>131628267
Or white privilege as the kids call it.

>>131627147
You make the woman your slave, dummy.

>>131624858
The entire point of marriage is to never separate again.
Until death do us part. It's literally part of the vows. The penalty for divorce SHOULD be death. You swore an oath ffs.

>>131624215
Holy shit this

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>>131625519

Sure MGTOW. keep telling yourself that

>>131625575

You're not "choosing". You're not selected. go watch some more MGTOW videos

>>131628152

Compete in no way. You're the opposite of male feminists. Instead of being allies, you're choosing to avoid competitition altogether. At least those faggots are trying to compete adjacently, unlike you tards

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>>131623846
Because society stinks and I don't like it.

>>131623846
Muh dick

>>131623846
>How do we solve this?
Artificial wombs

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>>131628597

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>>131628538
Yeah, fuck you. I want kids healthy.

>>131628376
Man.... It triggered a fantasy for me:
I want to almost drown her in aphrodisiac every day and stretch her ass until it becomes a piss and cumtoilet, but she will never be allowed to get off for all of her life.
Until the last second of her existence, where she dies from orgasming too hard as her brain literally melts from all the serotonin request

the main problem with females today is middle class fathers who treated their daughters like princesses, who let their daughter do nothing all day, but watch TV, and be on the internet. They don't help around the house, they don't even go outside, and daddy gives them everything they need. they haven't work a day in their lives and now they are 25 with no drive to do nothing.

>>131628214
>its either u masturbate to porn or have pussy
>implying this is mutually exclusive
>being a slave to sexual desire

You're a slave to sexual impulses either way in your situation.

The proper function a woman should be seen as a procreative one, rather than "getting sum pussay". The fact that you let women control the purse-strings in a relationship shows that you truly are a cuck.
Perhaps if you were more selective and only entered into relationships with the long-term aim of procreation instead of worry about "getting off", you would be in better mental shape.
Unfortunately, I'm dealing with a nigger-tier individual that thinks about sex 24/7.

Posted this as a thread a while ago, got 5 replies but here you go:

We aren't in a position we don't want to be in for you to meddle in our affairs so you can virtue signal others about how you help push people to get (((jobs))).

It's an active effort of us to check out of society not becaue we aren't able to land a job we are content with, not becaue we're lazy, not because our parents are rich, not because we can't do without mummy, not because we can't stop playing vidya games.

It's because we really don't want any part of society as we have read up on it. I'm not going to speak for all of us NEETs but here are some pointers to the reason we actively check out:

>Class/Hierarchy (where people dumber than you get merrits based on non-sensical stuff)
>Today's women nuff said
>PC culture
>Being a slave to (((them))) with loans and consumerism
>Having to work on something that has no meaning in 10 years just for the "luxury" of having a broader roof above my head and something outlandish on my plate
>Having 1/3 (my countrys taxes) of my work stolen by the state so they can fund things I'm strongly against
>Saying thank you for the shit I get from a boss I dream of beating the fuck out of every day with my head bowed i.e being a complete cuck

The list goes on. I can work, and it'd make me happy if the work I did made a difference other than filling the jewish pockets while I get the crumbs and repeat "thank you master" until I die.

>>131624221
Yet another white girl ruined

>>131624026

I am ashamed I have nordick genes in me. You are an epitome of a cuckold degenerate. Consider drinking bleach instead of Jamals cum.

>>131626882
that image is just social based shaming
thats not an argument
it was probably made by a woman

>>131627698
speaking of brazzers
https://www.brazzers.com/profile/view/id/2681/holly-hendrix/
I wonder (((who))) hired her

>>131623846
This looks just like an intersectional feminist I interned with she was an insufferable cunt

>>131628665
that's an odd fantasy

>>131628472
Lol. I already knew I was gonna marry someone the first time I saw her and 5 yrs later, we're married and have our first child.

>>131628687

Compete. become an alpha male so you can be selected, and not some faggot talking about how jews prevent you from becoming fit all day

>virtue signal
fuck off
improve yourself idiot , you sound like a fucking women's studies major talking about class hierarchies

>>131628959
Better stop that mass immigration to your country than. This is what this shit really does.

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>>131626772
>Blonde Ayran Norwegian
Where are the Strong Black Bulls? Something is missing.

>>131623846
On the contrary, I'm baitin' 4-5 times per week and I'm on to having my second child now. Married 5 years.

>>131628580

I just try to worry about my own shit but I see a lot of people working and getting jobs who don't have the skills or experience. Yet the mother fuckers sure do have a nigger chip on their shoulders. Yet at times I can't completely ignore all the ignorant black shit. Eventually one of them triggers me every now and then with their stupidity. They literally make life unraveling. At least that is how I feel about it. Now lets get to my own kinds females. Well holy fucking hell that is a fucked topic in 2017. They don;t know love but the know want. That about explains it.

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>>131628996
Compete for shit women.

>>131623846
Slide thread
Gets posted every fucking day
Saged

>>131628180

better yet, knock up some sluts and flee the jurisdiction. go to russia or china. they won't give a damn about enforcing child support obligations o american whores, and the plus side is you accelerate the collapse of the society that was exploiting you.

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>>131628597
The fuck?..

>>131623846
I don't see myself as a man, just a useless genetic dead end
I'm too scared of girls and ever got over this fear in adolescence and it persisted into adulthood

Im met with extreme anxiety and fear around girls and can't do more than basic courtesy small talk and then have to leave or else I become really upset

I become really upset seeing confident males talk to girls and it makes me suicidal. I am utterly worthless.

I wish I was born normal

>>131628996
>Compete
>In a losing game against countless other Men
>For already used goods and second place prizes
Not even once. Not worth it.

>>131629069
>snowniggers
>Aryan

please

>>131628323

photoshop her face onto it

>>131624138
Shlomo Chan

>>131624509
>>131627199
>>131627736
>>131628777
>all these triggered permavirgin robots

The West will be saved without the neets. You're useless man-children.

>>131629181
Get over it faggot. Fuck anything is easy. Too easy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My6ZWYldBRI

>>131629085

Compete. Fuck cuck shit. And deffo fuck that MGTOW bullshit (only helps the enemy). Fucking compete.
I'm tired of hearing this bullshit where people blame jews
Is that shit helping you get married and propagate white children? NO. Is that shit helping you prevent white genocide? NO.
FUCKING COMPETE.

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Anyone else going to marry a Christian Virgin QT and have children?

I sure am, as soon as I'm financially stable I'll start courting a QT

>>131623846
>How do we solve this?
Forbid media to lie. Shift the burden of proof to the media.

Everything must be backed up with facts, or news outlets owner and journalist gets the electric chair.

The desperation caused by the lying Deep State will quickly evaporate as the truth can once again be spread to the people.

>>131629354
White women are destroyed.

>>131623846
Men have an uphill battle in almost every aspect of life now, all while being told that they have it too good and that they're shit and need to apologize for everything forever.

There is very little that actually invites men into society, couple this with the male logic center knowing when it's fighting a losing battle and saving it's energy and you get guys systematically giving 0 fucks and just doing whatever makes them happy; because no one else is going to do it for them.

2d girls are superior

>>131624528
>>implying a civil war wont ensue if we do any of that

>>131629354
Wiggers fucking wiggers. White girl minority makes big fucking probs.

>>131623846
society is shit and LGBT and all other that kind of shit is just getting stronger everywhere, meanwhile everything you are is bad. Rather have few friends istead of cuck myself for whatever SJW cunts try to enforce. that's why. /thread

>>131629189

Right you're losing the game because you're giving up and not even trying. Talking about white genocide all day but doesn't even want to compete. Fuck off

>>131628996


YOU REALLY DON'T FUCKING GET IT DO YOU CANADKEK!

THE ALPHA IS SHUNNED YOU STUPID FUCK!

They will literally label you a racist if you act like you ARE! They want what the ALPHA is supposed to obtain.

You really don't get it do you fucking dumb ass.
Ever heard of a nigger stealing? Now how about some libcucks saying that its okay because Tyrone is under privilege. If you show you are better they label you racist or enemy. They take pokes at people and try stupid mental gymnastics in the work place. LIBSHITS with nigger pets. You don't know because you have never been in it. I've heard a story how one of my co-workers saw one nig slap the other in the back of the head because he said he might get a job. Now imagine when a nigger with that kind of mentality finally does get a job? They want to act like they fucking own the place. NO SHIT! BAD FOR ANY BUSINESS! ANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>131628267
Looks like her cuck bf also browses this Taiwanese Lego art forum. SO SAD

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men are not "checking out", otherwise the demand for women would be lower. obviously this isn't the case.

only those who were never in the game in the first place are "going their own way" (lmao).

>>131629486

WHAT the fuck are you talking about???

>>131629023
We are poor so nobody wants to stay here anyway

>>131623846
sexbots will be what humanity needs to keep goin, hopefully with whoms and all, i would commit myself to breeding so many children and raise them up to almost super solider status

then we would run local elections in a region or two of my country and wage war on my useless spineless government

>because this will be possible they would never give us proper sex bots with whoms

>>131624928
Washington- rome axis when?

>>131624120
The only winning move is not to play.

>>131628996
You replied, so I feel like I need to reply to (you).

>become an alpha

So much wrong with that phrase, I don't know where to begin. I've never had trouble with women, they tend to like me. I get hot women 1-2 times a year and thats a whole lot for not even trying and never going out unless I'm obligated for a friends birthday or whatever.
I've had numerous lays, and two long term relationships without putting in much effort other than in my personality, and that's for ME not them.

Anyway, after my goal being getting a wife/job/kids and realizing how the world works regarding those things I have chosen to check out and not give a fuck anymore.

>>131629594

Oh right, alphas aren't selected, they don't propagate at all, be some faggot beta crying about jews. Is that helping you to get married and make white babies??? I don't fucking think so.

>>131628676
>The fact that you let women control the purse-strings in a relationship shows that you truly are a cuck
In the US the women are 90% of consumer spending meaning basically all US men sre cucks by your definition.

>>131628996

But niggers and in line libshits always know who bossy is and they are complete scumbags suck ups to BOSSY!

The only way to be true ALPHA is to not have co workers yet the little shits who want what they don't earn as my employees. I'd love to hire a bunch of em and pay em all 2$ an hour. Its about what they are worth.

>>131629354
>be a good goy and cannibalize your fellow goyim in process making (((those))) who make rules for "competition" even more poweful
To be fair, west deserves to be consumed by spics and muslims for discarding traditional monogamous structure of society. You are beyond point of no return now in terms of birthrates, do enjoy yourself. The only problem is that your degeneracy spills over at the rest of the wort, but it can be dealt with.

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>>131629701
I'm talking about soylent green solution. Half of the fuckers most of 4chan would go. But hey they would be back in the food chain.

>>131628948
How do I put it into words, I am alright with her having a partner of different color and/or skin, but porno does things to me.
The gist is, these women are paid to be done it to them, no one coerced them to do this in the most cases.
There were and are so many vacant jobs needing workers and supporters, so they go through all this preparing themselves to take it all in instead?
Hot free food.
If it weren't for the human rights and the probability of STDs, then I would keep one as a live in pet(?) with my significant other and could degrade her just as much, just as other's keep their pets and take care of them for life.

I dunno. What would you call this what I am thinking of?
Since I am trying to know more about myself, but don't always find the right words to describe myself and confuse myself much more than necessary..

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>>131623846
ITT: 6 inch tiny penis NEETs getting MAD

lmao you vestigial """""men""""" make me crack up

>>131629858

Good. then marry and make white kids. You cunt.
find a mate
I'm sick of this shit

check out??? wow get a load of this cunt

get a prenup if you're worried about marriage. don't give me this mgtow shit as an excuse to propagate

I am going to wreck a bitch tonight
pissing me off

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>>131623950
>Isn't this that college drop out BLACKED.COM whore with the floppy tits?
Imma gonna need some sauce on that

>>131623846
Because this world is rotten.

>>131629962
The spics are not a true threat to Americans whites; the East Asians are probably more of an existential threat to whites than Pedro. They're more of annoyance. Europe on the other hand is truly going to be destroyed with all the inbred sand niggers and islamofascist.

>>131630164
good goy

>>131623846
why are you thinking about men jerking off and being upset by it? are you some kind of faggot?

>>131630095
Prenups are a meme. They get thrown out so often they aren't worth the paper they're written on.

>>131629327


You do know that most useful males dont have gfs while mongrel have 6+

Explain your bullshit Sven.

>>131630095
I'm not sure if you are really young, live somewhere far off western society, a woman or a guy deeply in love.

Either way, when reality strikes you, you'll be moaning on r9k. White women are utter parasites and they can't help it themselves. I've been through it all, hence my stance.

>>131625039
I know how you feel hans im thinking about an heroing later

>>131629897

I'm older and I had to go threw the 90's and the 2000's dealing with lib and kike commie nigger shit my whole life. I live in a state where there are 1 million streets named MLK.

It has effected my life dramatically and the lives of other white people and legal people of this nation.

You have absolutely no idea what it is like. To work at a place where you are the only white person (white male) besides the Doctor who is a Slavic Jew. The racial pandering from that kike was idk how to explain it. Its just sad both how the black people acted and the Jew doc. Its no T.V. sitcom. Its more a story about will nigger do their job today? And will kike blame me again for niggers shit or shall I kill everyone in the building.

>>131623846
Simple.

Economics 101: People respond to incentives.

There's no incentive for men anymore, marriage and fatherhood are nothing but money traps, the state has given women all the power and control in relationships, so men are walking away.

There's nothing you can do about it, it's one of those scenarios where women will have to become so unhappy with their lives that we breed this behavior out of them.

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thats what they want, white people becoming extinct, genocide

we have to reproduce guys, we cant let them win

>>131629930

Improve yourself = improving white race
When you're desirable the world comes to you

>>131629962

So improving yourself is being a good goy
10/10 logic
Hello dummy, realize one of your only ways to resist is to self improve and marry and reproduce.
It is your only way to stop white genocide. stop making excuses you cunt stick

>>131630218

wrecking your pussy punk

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>>131630381
Cry bullies, when they said the meek shall inherit the earth. I had no fucking Idea it would be this shit.

>>131624369
>MGTOW is the only smart way to go
>the angry jews who are the cause of all this and trying to stop white men breeding

congrats on being a retard anon

>>131630170

kendra sunderland

you re welcome

>>131626882
Oh look, it is the "code pink" guy again.

>>131625479
Howd you do it snakesnon?

>>131629327
Isaac Newton was a virgin his entire life. White male neets invented everything you see in your daily life. When we're gone it will literally revert back to pre-historic times.

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>>131623846

attention seeking feminist detected.

> Back to Call of Duty for me it is then.

>>131630366

More excuses.

>>131630314

Prenups are ironclad.

>>131630381

Oh I have no idea. Thanks for speaking for me, because you know right.
So how about you don't make yourself a victim to the kike and make yourself powerful alpha? How likely ar eyou to get blamed when you are prime alpha. sick of this shit

>>131629962
Russians literally invented all modern degeneracy with thier commie horseshit.

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>>131630637
Yep

>>131624026


There is no proof of that. Infact. Future generations will be dumber and less able to compete in a modern world where electrical engineers are required...not sword swingers.
What you said might have been true in the year 1200Ad.

Tell me you don't use this logic to live your life with.

>>131630515
>wrecking your pussy punk
Literally one of the many reasons why men are checking out, people like you having pre-marital sex with potential mates.

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>>131624709
They tend to not think in terms of decades or even centuries. Just within now and the immediate future. Then they just loop back to square one once the thought process is complete.

>>131626396
If only he would have genocided the jews

>>131623846
>oh no automation will render us all jobless
>men have checked out of society what a crime

seems to me men are just getting ahead of the game

>>131630762
cuz there's nothing else to eat in Africa

>>131630704
Excuses for fucking what exactly? I can be a good goym if I wish, I just don't want to.

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>>131630832
Truth hurts.

>>131623846

Absolutely no drive for me to marry a woman who is going to play games behind my back. Child benefit ensures theres no need for her to stay with me. The slant of the courts ensures I have no shot at keeping my kids if that happens. Women are whores overall in modern society and after dating many of them Ive lost taste in them completely.

>>131630515
>realize one of your only ways to resist is to self improve and marry and reproduce.
Are you really THAT dumb? Reproduction is not limited by number of men, it is limited by number of women. It looks like that for the West now there are FEW TIMES LESS females fitting to be proper wife and mother that there are men who want them. Luckily situation is much better for my country, but it starting to be felt here to because you westcucks spread your degenerate ways across whole world, and deserve to be subdued by muslims solely for that.

At this point I honestly don't give a fuck.
I'm a 30 years old virgin that works from home, get out only to shop for groceries and spend most of my days shitposting from my fortress of solitude.

>>131630775

"Checking out"

"I can't compete, so I'll whine all day on YouTube about the matriarchy 'n' shiet"

If you're one of those mgtow faggots just kill yourself right now and save us the trouble.
There is no room for self-loathing bullshit

>>131629897

Further note a German/Jewish girl I wanted to marry when she graduated had other plans. I was a year older than her and was at college. She wanted to go to college and be a whore. MGTOW. Then the little psychotic kike found her new love at college. She is ready to marry now. Then finds him fucking her room mate and locks her self in a bathroom for 8 hours till they break it down. lol PSYCO! Then years later she finds an ALABAMA boy. I guess shes into sister fucking aye? Getting in where kikes fit in aye? She has 3 children with the guy. First two children come out looking normal but they are retarded/autistic. Crazy they go for a 3rd and finally they got a normal one. Fate is why I am even privy to what has happened in her life in the last 20 years. Its tuff to love again when you were once with a crazy fucking kike bitch!

Bullet dodged!

I still fuck girls sometimes but they are always crazy or dumb or sleeping with others

Nothing really works out long term, and I've tried the "get a good Christian girl" meme and it seems I am too degenerate for them so I'm stuck in this limbo where I have to have casual sex for eternity

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>>131630977
I like you Macaronibro, checked.

>>131630926
I know brother i know if only Rockwell was still here

>>131630977
Are there no Italian women available for you?...seriously.

>>131624264
There is quite a bit of cross over with MGTOW and PUAs, some MGTOW like to play the system, I did for a lot of my 20's. I'm 33 now and I just can't be arsed.

What you realise by my age is that women are here for 1 thing, children. They're not here to be your soul mate, or someone to go do hobbies with, or have an intellectual conversation with, if you don't want children or a family, just ignore women all together.

>>131624294
>Nobody takes MGTOWs seriously
They don't need to take MGTOWs seriously, that's the beauty of going your own way, you're under no obligation to convince anyone. Quite the opposite, the point is to deliberately disregard what wider society wants you to do, under the premise that whatever it is, is at your expense to their express benefit.

>>131624709
The jewish conspiracy shit is pushed by LARPers and white nationalists who want to trick white men into breeding even if it's against their own best interests. It's just another form of peer pressure.

>>131625057
Basically, this.

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>>131626050
omgad

>>131631025
Not MGTOW, but my point still stands. Dating and reproducing with used goods? I don't think so. Hope you're proud of yourself.

>>131630898
No you cant anarchism of any kind is what (((they))) want

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Love how this is trying to get slid lol.

>>131630977

People are actually jealous of you.

How does that make you feel?

>>131630074
a Sadist? Although your infliction is closer to that of the original Author. Usually when people talk about Sadism nowadays, they mean a guy in stocking getting whipped by a guy in leather.

>>131624324
Turn society into a place someone might want to contribute to & not isolate themselves from?

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>>131623846
This woman belongs to BBC

>>131631041
Ever think about not being degenerate?

The females here in Australia fuck chads like mindless zombies, and they fight ruthlessly over them.
You've heard the 80-20 rule? Well in Australia it's 90-10. They also despise betas with a fierce passion, deliberately parading around with chads in front of them.
The girls here always avoided quieter men and worshiped brash men with money (WWII GIs) but they are like phycos now.
Just yesterday I saw a women who must have been in her 50's telling her daughter to get an 'Alpha male' at any cost. Those were her exact words, I couldn't believe it.
No advice to be feminie, how too cook a meal or how to big up a beta, nothing.
Her advice to her daughter was litteraly 'do anything chad wants'.

>>131630951

Yes, so the answer is to give up. Oh wait that's actually a terrible idea and you're totally wrong.

>>131631026

Why the fuck you wanted to marry the kike in the first place? couldn't find a white in Germany really
You do know that jews have a higher instance of birth defects because they have a history of clan inbreeding in ancient times.

>>131630977

Get to the gym. you cunt

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>>131631340

That sounds to logical.

GTFO of my /POL/!

>>131630704
>Prenups are ironclad.
No they fucking aren't. Prenups can be voided for almost any or no reason oncluding: if it wasn't signed early enough, if one of the signatories was "being pressured", if it's "too unfair" and so on. Don't just pull shit out of your ass and state it as fact.

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>>131631362
>>baby boomers the death of the anglos
I didn't ask for these feels

>>131631592
Boomers and Jews you mean.

>>131631362
>Just yesterday I saw a women who must have been in her 50's telling her daughter to get an 'Alpha male' at any cost. Those were her exact words, I couldn't believe it.
>No advice to be feminie, how too cook a meal or how to big up a beta, nothing.
>Her advice to her daughter was litteraly 'do anything chad wants'.

Care to greentext this situation? I'm wondering what you'll make up next.

If you want men to start producing, you need to give us paying jobs.

>>131624858
In Korea for a long time adultery was punishable with criminal penalties. Not sure if this still applies, but it was fairly recent.

>>131631362
maybe if your only marketable quality wasnt being "nice" you could get laid, anon. literally everyone is nice, thats what you're supposed to do. either be good looking, be funny, have work you are passionate about, or be insanely talented. if all you can say to a girl is, "buh buh..im nice!" you are going to be alone forever.

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>>131631661
JACKPOT

>>131630762
And how did he and his tribe end up?

>>131629631
Take my flag off, Mexico.

>>131631661
Boomers are a weapon of (((theirs))) i know who is pulling the trigger anon

>>131631343
I'm not anymore really, but I'm painfully honest about my past and it puts the lot of them off

I don't smoke or drink, have a decent job with savings. I don't see more than one girl at a time and I don't hop from one to another every week, I take my time to get to know them and stuff. The big issue they all seem to have is I don't actually go to church very often, which is because I find it pretty dull 2bh

all women are vapid dogs
why should i care ?

>>131631362
Hey, so uh. What's a chad?? ...mate?

>>131631776
Fucking up the planet now ass hat. Go to a gas station see how long it takes you to hear the word nigger being blasted from some niggers car or wigger. Near a small child that her mother is just trying to get some shit.

>>131631505
>Yes, so the answer is to give up. Oh wait that's actually a terrible idea and you're totally wrong.
Result will be the same, because this will not influence number of available females. But i can understand western men with choice between making shitton efforts and getting nothing and not making efforts at all choosing latter. Remind me again, why should they contribute to society that will not reward them with what they want?

>>131631124
I wouldn't know, I never get out

>>131631505
>Get to the gym. you cunt
I'm pretty /fit/, I've got an home-gym worth at least 4k+€ that I built up over the years.
I was fat once then when I was 24 after graduating from college I started dieting, lost 40kg, went to /fit/, did starting strength and now I squat 140kg

>>131631315
pretty sad actually

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>>131631781
Good, just making sure.

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>>131631131

>muh gynocrasy

MGTOWs are fags who can't get laid. Sick of this bullshit about feminism. Fuck off if you don't want to propagate the white race. Stop making excuses If you don't want to compete,

>>131631140

used goods lol what

>>131631776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY9Tw9O9xXk seriously better off at this point.

>>131631505

Well I didn't like her at first but she always liked me and she was the of friend of friends little sister. So she eventually got me. I fell in love with her then she threw me away. Feels bad man. MGTOW!

Hell I had some bitch that was trying to make me stay at the bar 2 weeks ago. She had a smell about her and a look. The kind that she needs another chad in her life. That is what they deserve till they are dead! MGTOW

Why are you leaving? Because there is nothing here for me. She was a little fat too and I know her friend is with a black guy because I know the black guy yet he is a black guy I can accept and respect for individual reasons. I think he is mixed anyway so it probably helps in why he is based and the woman with him is half white Mexican anyway. Not that its really my business anyway but I think I'd do better in general avoiding any nigger fucker.

>>131624528
>military service

Fuck off.

>>131625057
If you can find a woman that is still willing to be traditional and do housework while you take care of her then this is still a pretty good deal.

The feminist definition of marriage in which two people serve the exact same roles poorly is so inferior to the traditional model of marriage in which 2 people specialize into distinct roles and fulfill those role expertly. If you can find a way to have this, then it's worth it.

The modern problem with marriage seems to be that women collectively decided to stop holding up their end of the bargain while demanding that men do the same. Keep you options open but if you DO find a woman who is willing to uphold her end then fucking marry her yesterday.

>>131631505
>Get to the gym

What the fuck do you think this is going to solve? Do you think everyone with his problems is 300 pounds and everything will be fixed if they just lift a few weights and spend a few hours on a treadmill? I hear this bullshit so often and probably a good 90% of cases it won't solve anything because it addresses none of the issues.