Who was in the wrong here?

>>131616157
Britain and the USA.

>>131616157
right and wrong has nothing to do with it; the jews simply had a stronger identity, "palestinian" like "white" really isn't an identity so they couldn't fight back effectively

>>131616157
If the arabs hadn't attacked Israel this wouldn't have happened.

>>131616304
If America hadn't have armed Israel this wouldn't have happened either.

Most of Israel's army high command wasn't even born there. It's like if a load of Mexicans border jumpers decided to take over California.

The surrounding Arab nations are to blame. They could have accepted the 1947 partition plan but refused to and then invaded Israel. Israel fought them off and took land the Arabs had launched their attacks from.

Now that the Arabs have learned they can't destroy Israel militarily they're all calling for a return to the 1947 partition plan. The joos are telling them "tough shit".

>>131616543
If britian was not cucked by the UN thia wouldn't happen

This map is propoganda.
Most of what is called "palestinian land" was not owned in any sense by any "palestinians" (a palestinian was simply a person living in the geographical region of palestine, there was no such national identity) but was owned by the british and prior to that by the ottoman empire.

Its our land goys.

>>131617077
Okay? Israel also didn't exist before 47 what is your fucking point. I don't give a fuck about either side and I hope you both get nuked but honestly I wouldn't be happy if boat loads of Jews with guns washed up on my shore, regardless if there was a state there or not

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Might makes right

>>131616157
Whoever loses in the end.

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>>131617077
You guys sure love to repeat at every opportunity that other people don't have a national identity.

Jordan is Palestine

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>>131616157
Both

Give the land back to the rightful owners

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daily reminder, this is how Israel should look like

>Be white
>Work out a plan over centuries to run shitskin muslims out of Gaza
>Rename.your Khazar war tribe 'Jews'
>Fake a holocaust to gain world sympathy using primting presses and news stations owned by factions of your tribe.
>Crush everyone.
Been thinking on this subject for years. Is siding with Israel the final red pill?

>>131616157
britain and arabs

>jordanians (arabs) invanded "palestine" in 1920
>britain considered giving all of it to them and a small piece of land to jews
>jews start fighting against both entities
>eventually britain fucks off
>jews grabs more of their rightful land after arabs gets knocked out temporarily

>>131616543
>america
>arming israel

no, and the closest thing to america arming israel would be in the 80s when israel purchased a couple of fighters from the US

>First Panel
No one's fault. No real belligerents yet.
>Second Panel
No one's fault. That's the way it should be.
>Third panel
Palestine's fault. Shouldn't have trusted Russia.
>Fourth Panel
Israel's fault. Shouldn't trusted America.

Reset to second panel to resolve.

Israel is the rightful Jewish clay.

>>131617918
>implying most of our government aid isn't going to Israel
Stay cucked, you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>131616157
Nothing.

The only sand a Jew gets should be glassed sand at that.

>>131616157
>Who was in the wrong here?
america, for not turning the whole region into a glass parking lot 70 years ago

>>131618091
i looked up the aid which israel has been receiving since the 80s and it's literally nothing to their GDP and to what other countries

upon further investigation, it seems the aid to israel is used to purchase even more nonsense from american corporations, what a remarkable aid

Moshe Sharett was a fucking genius for calling the newly independent country 'Israel' back in '48

Suddenly every jew / christian on the planet associated it with 'gods chosen people' and all that shit

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>>131618450
>what is the 2007 military aid deal
You're not very good at investigating pal

>>131616157
It's the ancestral homeland of the Jews, Muslims don't belong there, and should have been driven out in 1967 when they had a chance.

>>131616543
The Americans started supplying arms to Israel after 1967.
Also, were it not for American interference, the Israelis could have finished the job by now.

>>131616157
the Jews, like what, do you have to ask, how nu r u?

>>131619022
stop being dumb

>>131617794
Agreed.

>>131619259
>stop being dumb
The irony. That's not a rebuttal you idiot, recently in Obama's administration they sold weapons to Israel. Remember the Iron Dome?

>>131619437
>iron dome was sold to israel

it was invented by israelis and it's being manufactured in israel, like i said, stop being dumb

>>131618056
>No one's fault. That's the way it should be.

No. The way it should be is all that land is Israel and Jordan is Palestine.

>>131619534
With money GIVEN TO THEM by the USA, nice damage control
>>131619259
Not an argument

>>131616157

The original Jewish people were Palestinians, in recent times the Judaic portion of Palestine converted to Islam. The "Jews" you see there today, who have invaded and performed genocide on the rightful descendants of Abraham, are originally from Khazaria.

Modern day Jews are literally "we wuz israelites n shiiet".

>>131616157
Israel is a Jew containment country. We need Israel so we have a place to put the Jews so they will stay away from Whites.

>>131617230
I love how you Nazis always pretend to love Arabs when it comes to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

>>131617230
Also, isn't it time for you to leave America to the native Americans, burger?

Make up a fake country via violence and war crimes just to pretend yer somehow a different race than other Arabs. Continue with war crimes by slaughtering people that are almost genetically identical save for the "Jewish" women whoring it out to anything that looks white.

Still can't get rid of that nose.

>>131619754
Do you have any citation for that? (Iranian\Palestinian backed stormfronts don't count)

>>131620010
Hey, I thought we wuz >>131619754 israelites n shiiet? Make up your minds, anons

>>131620007
Hmm but then we have to an entire fucking continent to the goddamn abos and nobody wants that

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>>131617077
No thing as Israeli land its just jews living in a walled off settlement, war is looming rabbi

>>131620050
Jewgle genetic relationship between Palestinian and "jew"

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>>131616157
It's not about land.

The white countries from getting involved in the affair in the first place. We should have never gotten involved with the kikes or the sandniggers in the first place beyond removing them all from our borders.

>>131620164
Thanks for enlightening me, cuck
You can't play on both sides, either you're against muzzie immigration or you're with them
>>131620204
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/science/1.681385
You're taking a research and cherrypicking the 'good' parts out of it
It just means that Jews are related to Palestinians by blood, which further enforces our claim on the land
>>131620262
It's about the will of the Arab elites to have a united pan-Arab state

>>131620275
>whites
no desu

>>131620007
We genocided the FUCK out of them! They can't bounce back to repopulate the continent even if they wanted to! Feels pretty badass in an edgy way to be honest.

>>131620444
Then your claim that Israel didn't exist (it has existed de facto for a long time before), is invalid, because the US didn't exist before 1776 either

All the cucks here getting btfo'd by me so easily?

>>131620131
hey, we have an entire country for the palestinians and most of it's an undeveloped shithole despite the heavy funding, it's called jordan
there's another one that got so much money pumped into it and it's still somehow not the singapore of the middle east, it's called gaza
i do wonder why

>>131620727
and don't cry about the blockade because the crossings to egypt were open for a pretty long time

so how long before the small land patchs and gaza belong to israel ? 10-20 years ?

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>>131616304
the jew cries out in pain as he strikes you

>>131620444
Actually there are more native americans living now than ever. The native americans were extremely low tech and unable to support a large population. Yes, many of them died to disease, and their total population went even lower, but then they benefited from modern technology and their population eventually soared to an even greater amount than what they lost. If white men never came to america there would be less living native american today. That's a very different truth than "we reduce their number to ashes, yeah!". The idea that the american continent used to be completely populated by native americans is a meme.

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>>131620801
it won't happen. the current trend is to give away as much territory as possible for peace. once we have a partner for peace, that is a government that doesn't fund people who blow up buses, then we'll have a partner for peace that i'll be willing to give up territory to
it's not some "imperialism" thing, we have no interest in annexing millions of left-leaning, non-taxpaying arabs, it's purely a matter of national security- unlike you in the west, we prefer our own people over the enemies, and if they make a threat, we need to keep them in their places
>>131620924
not an argument fag, try again

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>>131617077
okay hymie, here we go again

>>131620978
That's true to Palestinians too, their population has increased from about 300k to 2-3 mil in the last century

>>131620580
I didn't claim shit about Israel. I don't care what happens in the region. I'm fine if you guys decimate the population of the subcontinent and take over, but also fine if the Arabs do it as long as I'm not involved. Western involvement has just hurt everyone involved including the West more than it has helped. The region could just have a few years of chaos to sort out borders and demographics by force if we didn't keep stepping in. Instead we simultaneously keep Israel alive while also cucking them out of solving their problems once and for all. Same situation for the Arabs. I'm sick of hearing about the region and being involved with the region. Conquer by force is a viable form of land appropriation in my book. It's how humans have always operated. It just mostly stopped once globalism took over.

>>131616157
>Who was in the wrong here?
The person who made that image.

Probably the most misleading piece of propaganda from the latter half of the 20th century.

>>131621021
JUST BECAUSE THE LAND IS CALLED PALESTINE DOESNT MEAN THAT ITS THEIRS
They're nomads who are probably looking for shekels and houses
I could settle in Tokyo and call myself a Tokyian, and claim sovereignty over Tokyo

>>131616157
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jG6kJm-50k

This is how they treat people """"their"""" land

>>131621141
based bong
>>131621057
this is your opinion, i find it hard to agree because if america leaves, russia comes and there you have a bigger imperialist opponent
the russian influence on the arab society's already happened

>>131621191
So the land was basically terra nullis and just had a few million nomads living on it? FFS anon

>>131616157
According to Caspian report even if Jews didn't make a state Syria would have taken over

>>131621238
you know religious jews do it to everyone trespassing into their districts? cherry pick some more faggot

>>131621238
ultra orthodox jews in ultra orthodox neighborhoods in the most religious city in the country, nice cherrypicking
of course, go attack a bunch of drunk soccer fans too, why don't you
those people are insignificant in the country, too, and many of them are anti zionists, same people you palis like to take as propaganda of "good jews"
>nazi flag
nobody's buying it, achmed
poor choice that you can now hide your flag on pol

>>131616157
How did Israel gain all the land around the northeastern lake (?) in the last image?
Jewish tricks, or just a bad image?

>>131621509
when will you guys knock some fucking sense into the religious jews? they pissed me off during my visit and i was told they don't work

>>131621515
During the 67 war, Syria tried to go in too far and they got what they deserved :')
Beautiful landscapes I must say

>jordanians and palestinians genocide christians, Lebanon becomes a shithole
Meh

>10 year old video of a rabbi yelling at some guy
THIS PROOF THAT ISRAEL IS A SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN KILL ALL KIKES

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>>131621191
>JUST BECAUSE THE LAND IS CALLED PALESTINE DOESNT MEAN THAT ITS THEIRS
everyone lurking and reading this thread, just consider the amazing self aggrandizing bubble that jews live in, against everyone of their neighbors, to give them this attitude

>>131621509
haha no im not an achmed
>>131621595
>nazi flag
>i was in israel for a visit haha

kill yourselves you fucking kikes.

>>131621595
i wouldn't walk in one of their neighbourhoods as a secular jew, let alone as a christian
if people were less conservative they would've stopped supporting them
>>131621660
>completely ignored the analogy
convenient, isn't it?

>>131621715
Palestinian refugee, then
Still completely ignored my elaborate reply

>>131621715
guess which country helped the apartheid state in south africa and opposed it, of course you won't admit this and many other things you delusional fucko

there is nothing wrong with being a nazi and not wanting to wipe out jews

>>131621660
"Palestinian" is an identity invented by surrounding Arab nations, specifically as a ploy to get the UN to do what they couldn't, abolish the state of Israel.

Most "Palestinians" are actually just Jordanians who live in Palestine. But if they were commonly referred to as Jordanians, then it would be much harder to claim that they own Palestine.

>>131621815
>>131621936
I'm not middle eastern. I'm white. WHITE.
The same people who you and your people are trying to get rid of.

I don't give a fuck about your reply. You're only trying to spread your own jews dindu nuffin agenda. Fuck off you fucking kikes.

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>>131621784
>states a fallacy
>calls it an analogy
>jewish genius

>>131621968
when did israel start a war against a white nation?

>>131616157
Both?

>>131621968
Good logic, if you're not willing to argue then why are you here?
>>131621983
>in the same way that they're settling in palestine and call themselves palestinians, i could settle in tokyo and call myself a tokyian
how's this not an analogy?
also, strawman argument
and even if i'm not a genius (don't make me pull MUH 139 IQ) i still know the facts better than you it seems

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>>131621959
moar Palestine

>>131622106
LITERALLY PROPAGANDA
anyone who's looking at his map, refer to >>131621191
and look at his poor attempts to thwart it

>>131622106
so where is this "palestine"? i dont see it on my world map and i don't see any historical documents about this so called "palestine"

something seems up with reality and your picture

>>131622155
>>131622206
Could you retards make it anymore obvious you're JIDF?

>>131622243
>understand historical facts
>"U ARE JIDF XD"

ok mohammed

>>131622243
Ad hominem at its best

>>131617077
You could use that exact same reasoning to say Syrians or Lebanese do not exist, and you know that's retarded.

Do you honestly believe the people living there before you came back have NO connection or ancestry from the ancient Israelites or Judaeans? That's just silly. The Palestinians are your distant cousins.

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>>131622092
>i could settle in tokyo and call myself a tokyian
except that is what the Ash Can Nazi khazars did to Palestine

>>131622383
palestinians are invaders from jordan, egypt and syria.

>>131622409
hold on are you telling me humans migrate to other places before settling down? im so shocked, so when will europeans go back to caucasia?

>>131622383
It's retarded, that's exactly what I'm saying, it's not a way to determine if a country belongs to a people
Just because I poured some sand on my head doesn't mean that sand is mine
I believe that they could have some ancestry, many people here do, but we simply don't share the same religion, culture, language and (short-term) history, which makes the ineligible to live here, in addition to the fact that many of them were nomads, and they're already mostly welcome in Jordan

>>131622512
>palestinians are invaders from jordan, egypt and syria.
So what, the land was completely bereft of people before the Jews went back? That doesn't make sense at all.

>>131616157
USA, Britaina and Palestinians for selling out on their land. They could've fought back but they didn't, not as much as they shouldve at least.

>>131622409
That's also what the Palestinians did
Also, as much as I'd like to believe that I belong to an ancient tribe of warriors, the Khazar argument has been refuted many times more than I can count, but just out of sheer courtesy
http://www.chaim.org/khazars.htm
>>131622592
No, neither is the Sahara, but I don't think anyone could actually say that he's a Saharan

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>>131622409
The best

>>131622612
empty post

>>131622512


>invaders
>settling down
even in your own post you can't see the speciousness of your arguments

>>131622528
Not every Arab was a bedouin roaming around the desert on a camel lol. There were probably families that had lived there for millennia.

Does anyone know if the Ottoman or Byzantine Empires have any surviving censuses of the area with names over the years?

>>131622717
jews didn't invade you ignorant cuck, they were kicked out and re-settled

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>>131622649
>chaim
oh yeah, right

>not wanting Jews to be concentrated in their own land.

It's the most efficient way to gas them.

>>131621959
That's the most retarded crap I've read yet, it's like saying Lebanese don't exist or Syrians. We were there way before the kikes, check back on ancestry, all Lebanese and coastal Palestinians have Phoenician heritage.

>>131618871
These are retarded fucking border

>>131622746
Obviously, I agree, there were villages with homes and stable families, but there's no basis on claiming it today as they have nothing there from the past other than the geographical location. Shall I remind you, the majority of the Palestinians have lived in the West Banks (thus why the UK's partition plan looked like that), and you can infer that there is a very very small amount of Palestinians who could actually rightfully claim a right of return

>>131622708
An empty post, maybe but it's true. At least I'm not denying the truth, Israel is and always will be an illegitimate state

>>131622748
>arrive by the boatload with guns
>kick people out of their centuries long held homes
>not invaders

End yourself nigger kike

>>131622953
This

Israel should have never existed
We could be living in a more peaceful middle east

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>>131622923
Yes of course and a Jew who is from God knows where can of course settle anywhere in Israel, because logic, but Palestinians... Please, those don't belong.

>>131616157

Abu Ubaidah ibn al-Jarrah started the rot. If Mohammed had've murdered him then none of this shit would've happened.

>>131622826
i wont lie but they considering they've managed to survive on their own with the whole world against them for 2000+ years, i think they'll quite literally obliterate you if you try to start a war with them

>>131623055
flag checks out

how about fuck Palestine regardless....they can share a sandbox with one of their raghead neighbors......Judaism predates Islam by over 1000 years so any religious stake in the game is also bullshit.......

>>131623055

Speaking of a peaceful Middle East, why hasn't Jordan given citizenship to its refugees? They've been there fifty years and you still treat them like scum.

>>131623208
The only reason Lebanon dislikes Israel is because of the Palestinian refugee inflow. You think I give two shits about Palestinians? i just want them out of my country.

>>131623208
why do people actually fall for the "palestinian" lies? if israel didn't exist, the entire land would be called "jordan" or "syria" today

would people bitch about a fucking "palestine" if that was the case? nope.

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>>131616543
>>131617918
>>131619234
We gave the Israelis 100 Million dollars back in 1949. What do you think that was for? Roses?

Source: https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf
(Table B-2. U.S. Assistance to Israel, FY1949-FY1996)

>>131623234
Because the government is a dick

>>131623325
100 million dollars which has been paid since a long time ago, nice argument you shithead

>>131623278
Yes sure, keep telling yourself that Kike

>>131623197
Fuck off Nazi wannabe

>>131623234
arabs DONT like arabs, shocking news haha. and yet, all arabs want a little "palestine" (read: obliterate israel) so they can take the land for themselves

>>131623383
LOL, I wasn't arguing just presenting facts you moron. Just show your flag you coward.

>>131616157

>wrong
>right

subjective

>>131623399
trust me, i'd rather be a kike than a filthy arab

have arabs managed to not crawl on their four? i heard you guys are still trying to figure it out after generations of incest

>>131623278
Just shut up and don't talk about things you don't know

>>131623497
not an argument

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>>131623278
>would be called... "syria" today
G_D bless Assad, give him the money and bombs to achieve this

The only acceptable solution in this region is for Jordan to take control of the West Bank, Egypt take Gaza, and Israel gets the rest.

The Palestinians have proven over the last fifty years to be utterly incapable of organizing their shit without descending into a rabble of screaming and rock throwing.

We need to stop giving the pricks money, and let the Arabs look after their own, in the hopeless way only they know how.

Sure Jordan and Egypt are basket cases too, but that's to be expected under Muslim rule.

>>131623497
seems like he knows better than you about your own region
>>131623325
that's your thank you to us for fighting your proxy wars against russia?

>>131623278
Isn't Palestine the Latin term for Israel?

>>131623530
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this

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>>131623383
>2016, 3110 (MILLION)
>2017, 3107.5(MILLION)
>which has been paid since a long time ago, nice argument you shithead
What did this retard mean by this?

>>131623419

Palestinians are Arabs. Leave the fuckers to fight amongst themselves.

Once the Jews have a defined border they'll respect it. The problem now is the Arabs are so fucking hopeless and greedy they can't even set a realistic border.

>>131623521
assad is too busy bombing his own people kek

every time the west decides to transfer over weapons to arabs, the arabs find ways to humiliate themselves with it.

>iraq war against iran
>arab war against israel

you could make a comedy show about arabs ability to lose with modern weapons provided for free

>>131622869
Canaanites*
Phoenicians is just a group of cities in coastal north Canaan that went full trader-explorers and colonized the Mediterraneans (and half-civilizing the Greeks - the other half is the Minoans)
Anyway, Phoenicia are Canaanites (or "Syrians"). Just like both Babylon and Assyria are Iraqi (Mesopotamian)

>>131623596
that's how it was originally, you weren't seeing people protesting for "palestine" before 1967
there's no way now that they'll accept them back though

>>131623419
It's not Jordan's job to give them citizenship, I'm sorry but unlike Europe we're not willing to drown ourselves in foreign blood just to appeal to emotions.
Second of all, why doesn't Israel then treat Palestinians equally? Isn't that the least they could do considering that they took over their land and homes? Or are you kikes just good at nagging about how people talk about "Palestine". Here's a question, you think that Palestine is rightfully yours, then why are you trying to expand to Lebanon? Syria? Are those yours too?

>>131616157
Israel.

>>131623530
>jordan and egypt
>taking responsibility for their own people

>>131623682
They have equal rights, the ones who are citizens. There's no basis for a right of return, those who deserved it (1.7 mil) got it

>>131623682
>why doesn't Israel then treat Palestinians equally

show me where israel refuses citizenship to palestinians

>>131623682
They are trying to achieve the greater Israel bullshit

>>131623479
Being Arab doesn't mean that you're below others, remember when we taught euros cavemen culture and civilization? keep hiding behind you Nazi Flag. If you don't actually believe in NatSoc don't use it, it's demeaning.

>>131623834
Of course, more monkeys to deal with! What a pleasure

>>131623834
>jordan taking responsible for the west bank is the same as israel trying to expand it's border which covers the entire middle east

hmm makes me really think here

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>>131623325
Additional information on all the US Aid for the lazy niggas out there.

>>131623878
> when we taught euros cavemen culture and civilization

top fucking kek, you mean iranians, romans and greeks

>>131623927
>>131623569

>>131623772
I'm sure no Palestinian would appreciate having (((your))) citizenship, they should be able to keep their nationality alive and be treated the same.
Second, answer my question about expansion.

>>131623834

Jordan already got more land than they were supposed to get when we split up "palestine" and created both of your fucking countries but you greedy arabs bitched about it and wanted more and you still aren't happy with that and want half of Israel too.

>>131623682
>trying to expand to lebanon
>>131623881

>>131616157
How do 2 or how much million and growing palestinians fit into those tiny green spots?

>>131624073
that's false though

>>131623881
Please, the only reason your country is still alive is because of American support. Be respectful, our countries are enemies, but that doesn't mean friendly discourse isn't a thing.

>>131623994
What exactly are you doing?
What have you done that's worth 100 billion dollars?

>>131624004
I'm a Palestinian

So shut up you British scum
You're the main reason for this mess

>>131624061
>Jew calling Lebanese a monkey
Top Kek

>>131624143
Okay, I agree
Point still stands, we have no interests in absorbing vastly different people to ourselves
>>131624156
Militaries aren't cheap, you know, and just the fact that we're here is enough to keep Russia and Iran away

>>131624004
At least admit Iraq was a mistake.
And apologize for not killing the Turks and Kurds.
They're annoying.

>>131624240
Where was your family living exactly within the 67 lines before they fled the war? How old were you, that you have such a deep connection to the land? Why do you want to live and work in Tel Aviv?

>>131624290
>Keep Russia and Iran away
Hezbollah?

>>131624240
>I'm a Palestinian

no, you're a brainwashed jordanian

>>131624143
>American support

they did not get support until the 80s, and "support" is not the correct word, trading partners is the correct term

>>131624240
Yes, we should have kept the middle east and Africa under the boot of the superior Anglo.

>>131624409
Israel is more similar to America in culture and was founded earlier

>>131624240
>I'm a Palestinian

You're an arab and you belong in Jordan. We gave Israel to the Jews and gave you more land than them but you still aren't happy.

>>131624468
desu

>>131624408
>Questioning connection to homeland Because it's his country, his heritage, his land. What kind of question is that?

>>131624468
Yes and make US British citizens
I bet you'll like it

>>131624472
I understand, but Hezbollah has a lot of foreign support as well. If they weren't strong they wouldn't have beaten you in the 2006 war honestly

>>131623878
>Mediterranean Europeans
>Arabs

>>131624503
What does the fact that his parents/grandparents were born in the West Bank have to do with a right of return to Israel within the 67 lines that Palestinians want as a precondition for peace?
Why isn't anyone raging over the fact that Spain requires Jews who fled the country to learn Spanish, to live in Spain, to have a job and to have a cultural connection to Spain (all of which is completely understandable) but they're losing their minds over the fact that we don't want a bunch of poor people who hate us to flood the country?

>>131624654
I don't think that occupation of parts of Southern Lebanon for a short period of time could be referred to as beating us, but okay
What does their strength have to do with anything? We're talking about why America chooses to fund Israel instead of Hezbollah

>>131624491
We didn't agree with your retarded ass border that you have created

We could have lived with the Jews peacefully under one State

>>131624697
Simple, because if they don't flood into your country, they'll flood into mine. And considering you're responsible for all of this, you take the bullet, not me.

There was only a few thousand arabs living scattered around the area when Israel was founded. Arab states started wars against Israel and lost territory. And even the arabs don't want to deal with the palestinians shit.

>>131624643
Yeah I would.
God save the Queen!

>>131624781
Because America wants you to expand to destabilize the Middle East in order to control it and its resources. Not that difficult to understand, dude. I'm a girl and i know this.

>>131624290
I don't think Russia is afraid of you at all. Additionally, by this point in time Israel should be able to support itself financially. Yes, I am aware some of the money has been loans so you buy American products (still a waste on American taxpayer money), but that is a small percentage from the many billions we have given to you.

If you guys seriously cannot afford to finance your own military by now, you have made terrible investments with the money and you're no different than your average sub-Saharan African country moneysink.
It's just gibs at this point.

>>131624817
They can stay in the same place they've been in for the past half century (or century for many)

>>131617794
yes we can!

>>131624888
Tits or gtfo

>>131624805
>We could have lived with the Jews peacefully under one State

No you couldn't and you don't have to live with the Jews. You can live in the country we gave you and stop being a faggot.

>>131624888
Do you have a feminine penis?
Where are you bringing those claims from?
>>131624905
They're not afraid of us as a country, but they know that we'll make the first response once anything major happens, they don't want almost immediate attacks on Moscow or their allies in Syria and the rest
And I totally agree that many of the investments are going to waste, but you can't compare us to Sweden or Germany or another bubble wrapped country in that, much of the ammunition is being actively used for just reasons

>>131616157
It's propaganda.

>>131624922
But they won't. Ye know how many refugee camps I see everyday?
In every city, village and region there's at least one. And to prove that they wouldn't stay, Lebanese gov has put strict restrictions on Palestinian rights (no ownership rights, no education in public gov uni, no inheritance rights..) yet they still flow like mice.

>>131619956
Nazi lel.
Gaza is an open air concentration camp. You live in a apartied state and treat the palestinians far worse than the nazi's allegedly treated the jews.

Genetically the palis are more jewish than the majority of the foriegn invaders claiming to be gods chosen who are currently occupying palestinine

Jews
+Don't execute journalists
+Aren't barbarians
+Are at least polite to your face
+Aren't fuckheads
- Big nose reminds me of my dad :^(

Palestinians
-Barbarians
-Muslim
-Barbaric Muslims
+Do not remind me of my dad

>>131625122
If i had dick it would be more masculine than yours Kike.
Everyone knows these claims are true, why did America invade Iraq? Why is supporting ISIS and Israel? Because it knows these will cause the destabilization of the Middle East.

>>131625103
Yeah fucking muzzie scum. When they weren't killing each other, they were killing Christians and Jews. Genocide would be too kind.

>>131620580
And israel didn't exist until the balfour declaration

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>>131625122
I don't think you guys have the nuclear range to hit Moscow, unless this is an old map or something.

Moscow is like 3,500 miles from Tel Aviv.

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I hope one day your country will be split when Scotland votes to be independent

>>131625317
Tits or gtfo

>>131625451
Pfffft hahaha

>>131625464
I don't need to prove anything to you, I'm sorry I'm not a whore who posts nudes to anyone.

>>131617794
But no muslims left alive.

>>131625188
Maybe that just means that you need to show some solidarity to your Arab brothers, doesn't it?
Or turn the West Bank and Gaza into a thriving paradise with all the money that's being pumped into them. Use that money for infrastructure, hospitals, education and I guarantee you there will be peace
You just need to get used to the idea that we're here to stay
You have enough resources to do all that, but your leaders are corrupted and the rest is used for hateful purposes
>>131625192
>implying
the crossings were egypt were open until they started smuggling weapons into gaza. then they moved to tunnels, so whatever
and yet, there are resources being donated to gaza all the time
>>131625317
Weren't we talking about a friendly argument?
America isn't supporting ISIS and I've yet to see a credible source that supports that
America invaded Iraq to bring down terrorist organizations, which looking back was probably a bad idea

>>131625451

I don't care about Scotland but if you want to be mad at anyone then be mad at the Jordanians who don't give you all your rights when we gave Jordan to you, you are meant to live there.

>>131625439
>unless this is an old map or something
>Yugoslavia
>Caucasus in the USSR
This is an old map.

>>131625439
it's still a first-response force
nuclear submarines, airplanes, etc

>>131624828
This.
Lose wars, you lose land. That's how shit's supposed to work.

>>131616157
palestine to expect you can have scattered territories within a greater territory and call it a nation while it resides within a nation

>>131616157
The 'Palestinians' were wrong because they couldn't defend their own land from the jews.
To the Victor belongs the Spoils.

>>131625559
I need to know if I'd throat punch you or throat fuck you.

>>131625610
xD to be fair you started it with the feminine penis shit. Second of all, Lebanese are not going to do that because we don't even consider ourselves Arab, we hate Arabs just as much as you probably do.

>>131625711
to the nikiforov

It's gonna be ok. Trump knows the "Art of The Deal". He'll either make a great peace plan, or blow up shit bigly.

>>131625753
You don't need to, there's already money being pumped into them, they need to make the change of mindset and stop telling themselves that they have some sort of a right to live in Tel Aviv or Herzelia
Tell me, what is the purpose of Hizbollah, other than to bring back the long lost dignity of the Palestinians?

>>131625641
I hope your country drowns with immigrants

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>>131616157
Why not go with the real version OP?

>>131625750
Really mature of you, thanks

>>131618450
>https://www.google.com.au/search?q=isreal+gdp&oq=isreal+gdp&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.29551j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


>http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/u-s-aid-to-israel-totals-233-7b-over-six-decades.premium-1.510592


Israels GPD is 290 billion they receive 3.8 billion a year from the US on average that mostly goes to military use, Israel also got hand me down military crap from post ww2 surplus, also I am only counting US aid I,m sure German shekels would double that 4 billion figure.

>>131625888
To fight off israelis who try to invade Lebanese land. We both know you'd probably take over the entirety of the south if it weren't for them

>>131617077

So your argument is that Palestinians dont exist, because "Palestine" wasnt a recognised nation, but Israel has a divine right to the Levant, despite not having been there in a millenium?

I cant wait for Palestinians to outbreed you.

>>131626009
world really would've been better if the kindly anglo were allowed to rule. Hell of a lot more tolerant and peacable than the third world marxist dictators half the Empire got instead.

>>131625753
You aren't Arab?
Are you Christian, Aramaic? Because I only care for my cultural counterparts. I'd put a middle eastern Christian before the yids any day.

>>131626061
Hey would you like to join my discord?

>>131626009

So youre saying that Palestine is actually culturally British and should be part of the UK?

Is that your argument?

>>131626171
For Queen and country!

>>131626133
You ruined "your" own country you can hardly blame Isreal for being shit

>>131626133
But why would we want that if you were friendly with us? We've never been hostile towards Iran until they started being hostile towards us, we haven't tried to invade Jordan since the peace agreements

>>131616157
The fact this whole fucking area hasn't been nuked is what's wrong.

>>131626174
I'm of Christian descent, my family converted to Shiite Islam about 4 gen ago.

>>131626228
Imo it should be part of Jordan and Egypt
it's not culturally distinct enough

>>131626228
What is conquered
Is conquered
Rightful British clay

>>131626311
How did we ruin our country? If you're referring to the civil war, that was incited by Palestinians, and palestinians came over because of Israelis. So no argument there.

>>131621310
Yeah, that is a fair point. I really do want to wash our hands of the Middle East, but if we do leave, China and/or Russia will just do all the same stuff we do. In the case of China, probably a lot worse than what we do. The people there will probably still hate us and want us dead if we leave and give it to the Chinese/Russians, and then we would have no foothold in the region, no allies in the region, or any resources to be gained in the region. The whole situation sucks.

>>131626395

It absolutely is actually. Ive known alot of Palestinians, Egyptians, Jordanians and Persians. They are as diverse as central Europe.

Claiming that Palestine "isnt a nation" is like claiming that Scotland isnt a nation, because theyve never been a country in the UN.

Your rhetoric is weak and nothing you say will change the fact that Palestinians are outbreeding you (despite the "war" every few years to cull the herd).

100 years from now, youll be a minority.

Cant wait!

>>131626377
You've been had anon, its all shiiiit. All of it.

>>131626377
>Falling for the pedophilia-Jew...
tsk...tsk...

Should have held on to your family's ancient traditions.

>>131626324
if we were friendly? You think after all the damage you've cost, the families you've killed, the wars we've had? We're just going to forget because "peace"??

>>131626377
Wowee I wanna fucking kill you're whole family now xD

>>131616157
Where were all the Jews living pre 1947?

>>131625559
Hey, thanks for the flag, was somehow missing it from my collection.

>>131626670

Europe, Russia, in other ME countries, USA...

>>131626628
A nation is not a person, fact is Israel is friendly with Germany and would've been even without the compensations, and they did things that are much worse than what we did to you in a conventional war

>>131625267
oh yeah being polite to my face definitely makes up for poisoning the water supply and attempting to covertly genocide the other races

>>131626586
I know, I regret it. But my family and I aren't religious, it's just a title on legal documents. My ancestors have done worse believe me.

>>131626500
Muslims ruined a perfectly good christian country, bet you don't even know why you have a tree on you flag

>>131626721
What I mean is, governments change and people change, making peace with a nation doesn't necessarily mean that you're making peace with past alleged war crimes
>>131626743
Nice projecting

>>131626721
>MUH HOLOCAUST
Yes, sure. It's not like you're milking it every time you want something, please.

>>131626827
It's not like you're not milking the wars every time you want something, please.

>>131626628
Anon would you like to join my discord?

>>131626790
I'm not saying they didn't. And I'm perfectly aware of my country's history, thank you very much.

>>131626905
Hello Dr. Jordan, I'm CIA.

>>131621021
>>131622383
>>131626154
why is /pol mentally handicapped?
I didnt say the people themselves dont exist they unfortunately and obviously do exist its just that they never had a national identity. they were subjects of the ottoman empire living in the region of palestine or the levant...Those were names of geographical regions..
The idea of a national palestinian identity came about in the 60s.
Why do you think they are in such dip shit? Because they dont have any vision or common rooted identity.
Jews may not have had a unified geographical state but we existed through the religion which always relied on the specific historical state of israel.
Inside jewish religion exists a national identity, and always has.
Meanwhile what are today called "palestinians" were just rag tag bunch of people from all over the middle east who worked lands that were majority owned by arabs not even living in israel.

The reason Israel is powerful while palestine is garbage is exactly because jews had a built in vision and inherent calling to have a state here while palestinians were just arabs living in the ottoman and then british empire.

>>131626827
And you're still missing my point, we've made peace with Russia, there are probably more examples
And I'd be happy to make peace with anyone who wants it, regardless of past crimes
If you treat a convict like shit his entire life, he's bound to crime more

>>131616543
> implying Nigger in chief didn't send millions of dolars to Palestine

>>131626905
Sure

>>131618871
most likely the only good post itt

>>131627018

> its just that they never had a national identity.

Wrong

>Those were names of geographical regions..

Wrong

>The idea of a national palestinian identity came about in the 60s.

Wrong

>Why do you think they are in such dip shit? Because they dont have any vision or common rooted identity.

Wrong

>Jews may not have had a unified geographical state but we existed through the religion which always relied on the specific historical state of israel.

Wrong

>Meanwhile what are today called "palestinians" were just rag tag bunch of people from all over the middle east who worked lands that were majority owned by arabs not even living in israel.

Wrong

>The reason Israel is powerful while palestine is garbage is exactly because jews had a built in vision and inherent calling to have a state here while palestinians were just arabs living in the ottoman and then british empire.

Hilariously wrong

Arabs unironically deserved to get BTFO even if it's for Israel.

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>>131626989
Go away

>>131627028
You obviously are so convinced with what your state had fed you, you can't think for yourself anymore. Israel doesn't want peace, Israel wants to expand.

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>>131627145
I think it's the other way around
Rationally, why would we want to occupy more land?
>>131627140
Do you like boipucci too?

>>131627018
HAHAAHAHHAHA WHAT?
Oh my god, what have the Jews been feeding you?

The fact is, ahmeds. all of israel will eventually be ours, Including the west bank.
We will slowly make the shitskins living there fuck off to some other muslimshit country while we build a proper state.
We will be stronger, through the orthodox jews we outpace arab birth rates.
We will have more immigration waves as our economy becomes even better.
Muslim countries are garbage and will continue being garbage for a long time. They are wrecking themselves and in terms of geopolitics we are in the best state we have been in, ever.

>>131627145
https://dis99cord.gg/APgwj

Just remove the 99

>>131627213
Do they have one of these maps by population size? I want to see Israel surrounded by a couple of pixels.

>>131627216
Isn't that how you started out, irrationally taking up land just because "MUH PROPHECY"?
Doesn't that mean you'd do it again?

>>131627216

Youre gonna get fired, if your shilling skills are this weak.

Ill give you some advice to make a compelling argument for Israel. Dont focus on Palestinians, because thats an argument youre always going to lose.

Focus on "Israel is the only democracy in the ME" and "Islam is the threat". Those arguments will get you further, than distorting the truth.

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>>131627216
............

>>131627129
brainwashed mudshit.
Do you lack the mental capabilities to actually provide arguments or are you just lazy in the typical levantine manner?

>>131627275
WE

>>131627280
Can I join the fun times to Jordan?

>>131620406
It also furthers the palestinian claim

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>>131627270
>waaaaaahhhh you are wrong cause what you say doesnt line up with what my muslim hive says

you morons are pathetic. I hope you are a palestinian lebanese otherwise you are an even bigger moron for supporting them.

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>>131627352

Got a similar one but not per capita.

>>131627411
You realize Israel is part of the Levant, right?

>>131627450
Sure why not

>>131627275
I approve.
I'm white nationalist traditionalist
As long as Jews stop the muzzie problem, and stay in their own state, I'd be happy. But that's just me.

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>>131627368
ferris best girl (male), you cannot escape
>>131627362
not really
>>131627365
ok thx

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>>131627073

Except it's missing the majority of palestine.

>>131627411

>a semite calling a Central European "mudshit"

Thats ironic!

Provide actual arguments and Ill take you seriously. Ill refer you to my other post.>>131627365

>>131620727
Didn't you guise steal loads of jordanian babies and put them up for adoption not long ago? I can only assume some sneaky rabbi thought it up as a way for you to actually pass a jewish dna tests

Israel. They have chosen expansion over security. They could have full peace on the pre-June 1967 border but have chosen expansion instead, and it could be there undoing as they Americas geopolitical interests and will be left entirely isolated when it no longer needs them just like other past client regimes.

>>131627619
did you read about it in stormfront?

>>131627431
Anon did you join?

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>>131622895
>jordanian with horrid grammar
please kys mudslime

>>131627486
No I'm not a Palestinian Lebanese. And being against you doesn't mean I support them. I personally don't like Palestinians, but I'd choose them over kikes any day :)

>>131620798
Yeah KFC was selling for a premium

>>131627569
underrated

>>131627661
>win war after massive military build up, lose thousands of men
>expected to hand everything back to the losers who were planning to eat you alive

>>131616157
Palestine was never recognized as a state moron. There's a reason only like 10 countries recognize it today. KYS.

>>131627690
Maybe thats why your country is in the state it is in.

>>131620994
We prefer our own people (((leftists))) bring them in for votes (((loans))) and greater israel

>>131616157
Clearly it cant be the joos.

>>131616157
America

>>131627812

Boy I wonder how Israel would be like today if it wasnt for the British Balfour declaration, German reparations, US tax payer "support" by offering tax breaks for donations to Israel, US military and intelligence support, US technology, US military technology, US nuclear weapons technology...

Really activates the humus.

>>131627667
Yup

>>131621191
You could also calk yourself a jew and move to israel, same thing ari

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israel rose to power six times and six times it got corrupted and destroyed. gee i wonder what is going on now :D

>>131621310
Based jidf behind a proxy probably sitting right next to you in tel aviv

>>131617851
Jews be like
Im white

>>131621509
Surely "good jews" are the religious ones protesting your treatment of the palestinian peoples in your apartied state

>>131628310

The orthodox ones are the ones wanting to literally genocide them, while dodging conscription for "religious reasons".

If anything, the liberal young millenials Israelites are getting fed up of having to server years in the army doing unspeakable things.

>>131617077
This map is propoganda.
Most of what is called "jewish land" was not owned in any sense by any "jew" (a jew was simply a person living in the geographical region of Israel, there was no such national identity) but was owned by the british and prior to that by the ottoman empire.

>>131621959
Palestine existed before the UN

>>131628199
most jews are, they come from the Crimean area of Ukrainian they only share "blood" because greeks first settled there, and the greeks are geneticly close to the phoneticians and levantines.

all in all its like saying my third removed grandpa is me because we share similar genetics

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>all this jew cocksucking ITT

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>>131622155
Refer to british israelism to see where this cancer came from

>>131627795
kike detected

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>>131627795
>There's a reason only like 10 countries recognize it today.

DUURRRRR

>>131623530
Sensible but probably untenable

>>131619583
>Try violence
>Fail
>Cry for foreign attention
>Take up arms again
>Get rekt in a cartoonish way
>Cry for foreign attention like a bitch
>Make alliances, go to war again
>Get your ass handed back to you

>Cry Ad Infinitum

>>131629156
the vatican recognizes it? Based christkeks

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>>131627213
>>131627352
fakestinian got more aid per capita than israel, but because they claim not to build tunnels and rockets, and pay for their terrorists, it's called "economical aid" and won't appear on this map, which makes you think that they don't milk your pockets

>>131627690
keep supporting them, because it means keep hosting them indefinitely
hahahaha

>>131627664
Nope bbc a few years back it happend 100% I think it was in the 50s or 60s