Real talk

Lithp

>>131570669
didnt he fuck trannies

>>131570908
>>131570990
Are either of these really valid reasons to hate him? The guy beat a false rape charge, he's an attorney, and he helped Trump win the election. He's a best-selling author, as well. Is it his success?

>>131571514
whats up mike, how are you doin

>>131571514
What is his advice to men? Haven't read any of his stuff except that he's an MRA.

>>131570669
Whats his book called again

>>131570669
I don't know who he is but he's tall and handsome FUCK HIM :(

>>131570669
kike

>>131570669
Race traitor Alt Lite with a lithp

>>131571881
"Gibbon guessing" I think

What was the name of his book?

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>>131572102
>tfw slow fag

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>>131570669
Has a mindset of a gorilla.
>>131572102
Harambe Thinking

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>>131572102
mandrill mindset

>>131570669
He says he is for free speech but he isn't actually for it when they aren't mainstream opinions being said

>>131571848
He talks about diet/exercise, self-talk, legal issues facing men and how to beat them, etc. He actually makes a lot of sense.

>>131571881
>>131572102
Primate Perspective

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>>131570669
Meh. Alt Lite. Constant Joo shilling of crap books.

He does get some good leaks on occasion.

>>131572102
Macaque thought

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cucks mind as well be leftists.

Been following him for the last 8 months... I used to really like him but his manipulation and lies have been showing lately. He likes to control his audience and pulled a bunch of SJW shit recently. He also has been punching right.

I don't know what his ideals are besides promoting himself.

>>131572574
Did he not retweet you, or something?

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>>131570669
He's no longer humble

>>131572705
What are you even doing here Cernovich

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He's a weird guy.

https://twitter.com/VicBergerIV/status/853464309669744640

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>>131570669
Subversive kike that fucks trannies. Alt Lite leaders need to be purged.

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>>131570669
He went on live stream after Joomer was arrested and told his viewers to send money or Soros might have her killed. Very jewy thing to do, bro. Very. Jewy.

>>131572688
Checked. Can you give me some examples of what he's done, in terms of manipulation and SJW shit?

his shiite rafidah trash wife and all the political ideals she surely osmosis into him

>>131572753
>He'th thno thlonger thumble.

FTFY

>>131570669
He's annoying, and super hyperbolic.

>>131570669

He wanked a bloke off on cam.

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>>131570669
>hwn eat your tender boipucci while you slurp his dong

why live?

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>>131570669
all he does is push fake news and is afraid to bring up the JQ
he had a falling out with Baked Alaska because the kikes
this guy literally does nothing of worth
next question

>>131571514
>he's an attorney

You're saying that as if it was a good thing.

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He punched right.
And he's an opportunistic faggot looking to make a quick buck, his only goal is to gain fame so he can make shekels, and he attaches himself to movements like a leech. Some thing he did with GG, but the Alt-Right got a little too hot for him to handle, thought he might loose money. He's a Jew.

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>>131572936

>>131572850
Honestly, they have their place. They brought me here.

>>131572850

What the fuck is that excerpt from?

>>131572803
Trying to piss a few thin-skinned fake Nazis off by posting.

>>131573072
>afraid to bring up the JQ
He IS Jewish. Gross.

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>>131573036

And here's the proof.

>>131571848
>>131570669
His podcasts are seriously good. He has a few shit ones but the mindset, framing, self-talk, motivation based ones are fuckin awesome.
A hell of a lot of good advice. He's not just some Tony Robbins scumbag, he does talk big and is somewhat arrogant but he's got some right to be.
He went from giving dating advice to influencing an American election

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>>131573174
Well the clear subversives ones i should say. They're turning them into liberals.

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>>131573235
Wow. Epic le trill lel based maymay.

>You got us so good.

>>131573484
>REEEEE: The Post®

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>>131573211
It's from his Blog or whatever. AltRight.com did a story about it.

He is blue pilled. Watch the video if you don't believe me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcXC9o9mRdg

>>131573363
He didn't do shit, he attached himself to a wave he didn't fully understand, and betrayed the movement as soon as it went a little too far. He's an opportunistic pussy.

>>131570908
Fpbp

And the he's self hating gay man. Simple really.

>>131572891
He setup the interruptions at the Caesar Play with that Laura Loomer chick. Very anti-free speech.

Promoted the lie on live stream about the Alt-right sleeping with boys.

Set up his own rally at the same time the free speech rally in DC was going on. Purposefully to counter signal.

>>131570669
He looks like a neanderthal and sounds like Woody Allen.

>>131574115
Oh, well, finally, an argument. Thanks. Will take this into consideration.

>>131570669
cerno is the man, we should stay away
from him, he's not ready for our level.

>>131570669
Well, to start with, his eyes are too close together.

>>131572102
Bonobo Mental Frame

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>>131570669
He's an idiot cuck who fucks trannies and is only exploiting pedes for money. The guy is a fucking idiot. Also, he can't dance like MEME MAN Richard Spencer:

https://youtu.be/62WXBkDdImg

>>131571514

Fuck off Thernobitch

>>131571881

Simian Synapses

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>>131572850
Not only did he fuck a tranny, but a nigger. Unless tranny dicks turn black. And he sucked the dick! That's rich!

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There are people on this board who unironically support this man.

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>>131575239
Haha. There's memes going around with him and that faggot Lucian Wintrich looking like a gay couple. They're cancer.

>>131570669
I hate that he's decided to be a media pundit but hasn't done the necessary work to get rid of his lisp. That sounds petty, I know, but when a ton of his exposure is achieved through podcasts, you would think he would make the effort. It's kind of like if a guy decided to sort himself out and start seriously looking for a wife but never put any effort into his appearance. It's almost offensive.
There's also the way he unironically talks like a Reddit version of a /pol/lack in the presence of normie adults, which is cringeworthy. But I'd settle for being rid of the lisp.

>>131572850

thus are the rewards of the casual sex degenerate

>>131570669
jewish and alt lite

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>>131572102

>>131575239

Back when he sold Juice books and posted on RooshV forums, he made a blog post about how he over came alcohol and substance abuse.

In a later post he wrote an article on his blog about how he fucked a tranny during this addiction stage, and he talked about the shame he felt.

After he got shit from the PUA community he edited the blog adding an introduction. The introduction outlined how this was an anonymous, user submitted story, He fucked up though, as he forgot to remove the link within the blog post to his previous blog entry about his struggle with addiction. Then he just deleted everything.

>>131570669
he's a fucking jewish faggot whose nothing but a schemer for goyim shekels.
<I'll always remember based Indian bro who shared his pay gorilla mindset videos where the guy does nothing but literally act like a gorilla for five minutes, my sides achieved orbit courtesy of India's space program

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>>131570669
Like Milo, he's a book merchant, simply trying to get a piece of the "alt right" audience by co-opting it away from being mainly a pro-white movement and instead being about muh based black guys in Trump hats and "dangerous faggots" and whatever else won't get you banned off Twitter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_HBdG5280o

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>>131576277

>>131571881
Orangutan Outlook

>>131570669
Hi Mike.

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>>131576626

>>131570669
He's great.

>>131570669
Gordon Ramsay isn't a bad guy, he's just an asshole on TV.

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>>131570669
more from mike cernokike

>>131570669
He's great desu senpai

/pol/ hates him because he has everything they don't have - a hot wife, a kid, money, popularity, political influence and a house

http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2017/03/16/tranny-surprise-w-mike-cernovich/

>>131570669
I don't find his mode of presentation to be persuasive. It's a personal taste thing; he comes off as overwrought to me.

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>>131572850
What a complete fucking degenerate

>>131571514
He literally divorce-raped his wife and became wealthy through alimony
Fucking diva

He's a careerist first, activist second. In contrast Spencer isn't looking to sell you anything. If Spencer ever makes a buck off of this it will be because the world has changed. Cern is setup to make a buck in the ecosystem others' have curated for him.

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>>131576900
holy shit, these are fucking great

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>>131570669
Because he works with Alan Dershowitz to cover up Epstein pedophile scandal, and he's a Jew.
>https://fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2017/05/06/pizzagate-activist-cernovich-a-double-agent/
>>131573235
If thats you, I hope you know that your going to hell

>>131572102
Bonobo Dialectics.

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>>131571514
>beat a false rape charge
he's exactly the type of retard that i would bet is guilty
>he's an attorney
jew as fuck
>He's a best-selling author
nigger, please

this dude literally has no objective value

>>131576277
Ewww.

100% degenerate. But that's what you get when pussy is your master.

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>>131577025
No wonder he acts like such a bitch

>>131578239
>he's exactly the type of retard that i would bet is guilty
Not an argument.
>jew as fuck
Not an argument.
>nigger, please
Really, really not an argument. There have been some good points against him ITT, just none of them have come from you.

>>131571881

Some say it is the ancient scripture of the Lemur Lifestyle others call it the magic book of the Tapir Telekinesis

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>>131572574
Pretty much this.

He's in if for the scheckles and wants to demonize any actual populist movement that cuckservitives or fake news actually dislike so he can keep sucking Trumps dick even if Trump fucks up.

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>>131570669
Can someone give me a quick rundown on the Spencer rally vs Cerno rally situation?

I've been out of the loop and need a quality redpill on the situation.

>>131579059
10/10 bantz

well he's relevant and most of you anons aren't.

>>131570669
weak voice, annoying, tries too hard to appropriate surface-level memes.

>>131572102
Curious Mike: The tranny fucking kike

Alt lite biggest cringe ever counter protesting a free speech rally just so they can have their based black man virtue signalling

>>131574241
This.

>>131579265
two controlled opp shills trying to gather idiot followers.
unfortunately for them, most of us can see through both of their acts.

>>131572102

HOWLER MONKEY BRAINSCAPE

He tries to bleed every single shekel out of his followers. That's my only problem with him.

He also has an effeminate voice. Never trust a man who sounds soft.

>>131570669
something about him rubs me the wrong way. plus I hate his stupid voice.

His MAGA mindset bullshit was cringey as fuck.

>>131570669
I don't trust him, he's a snake.

>>131577337
That's a few levels of autism more than the original pepes.

>>131571881
Gorilla Mindtheth

>>131570669
Honestly, I like the guy.

>>131571881
Baboon Brainframe

>>131570669
Maybe he has to mention Jews once in awhile. Oh wait he can't he's a fucking merchant himself.

>>131570669

No problem. He is just one of many being used as a resource of information. I personally don't put any human on a pedestal or do cult followings.

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>>131570669
He's not a socialist.

>>131570669
eyes too close to nose

>>131572102
Rhesus Thesis

>>131573322
get out. that's too much of a stretch.

>>131572102
Ape Angle

>>131572102
Baboon Brainframe

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>>131570669
he has photoshop face.

>>131570669

Mandrill Mentality

Or, of course, the classic 6 GORILLION MINDSET.

But, to answer your question, OP, he's just sort of a nancy faggot at times, occasionally he's fine, but kind of a weepy pussy about everything he doesn't like or anything that negatively affects his "brand".

>>131573322
If you think those faces look alike you have Autism

>>131579265
~200-300 for the Damigo / Enoch / Spencer one and ~100-150 for the alt lite. The alt-right crowd looked good, young white men in khakis and white shirts. Antifa were nearer the alt-lite, but greatly diminished in number from previous times, they seem kind of worn out. Maybe Eric Clanton's fate got to them. Lots of pics + vids on the web.

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>>131591288
>The alt-right crowd looked good, young white men in khakis and white shirts
Yep, I jerked off for the whole thing, spencer has such a nice ass.

>>131571881
Mandrill Mantality

>>131570669
Shameless self promotion is unbecoming.

He has a limited intellect. Yet, he acts like he cured cancer.

He's always got a shit eating grin. Yet, nothing brilliant ever follows when you ask him why. It may be there because grocery store soda pop is 10 cents a can. No one knows. You don't know.

He's not a solution guy. He's a problem guy. All the problems are liberal leftist problems.

Cernovich belongs in the Middle East. They would love his diplomatic approach to everything. You're wrong. I'm right. Give me a grenade launcher.

When you organize a happy hour, you formulate 5 cool people to invite before you consider adding him because he's a jaggoff in social situations. Once he' there, you can't get him to shut up about how important he is and how important his twitter reach is.

At night, just before you go to sleep, you wonder to yourself who is a bigger narcissist, Cernovich or Al Gore. It's a tough question, many elements to compare. Will a scoring system help. How much history is required to fully compare....if it were a spreadsheet.....columns.....tables....color coded.

Lights out.

>>131594747
>He has a limited intellect. Yet, he acts like he cured cancer.
>He's always got a shit eating grin. Yet, nothing brilliant ever follows when you ask him why. It may be there because grocery store soda pop is 10 cents a can. No one knows. You don't know.
127th post best post

best description of this vapid twat ive ever read

can confirm he's a dick, blocked me today from his live stream after I asked him what he did with the manchester bombing donations https://twitter.com/Sheilaaliens/status/879865202874785792

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I think he's pretty based. Can't understand the hate he gets here either.

>>131570669
why are his eyes so small?

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>>131570669
nothing really. he's done some good stuff and he's done some stuff i disagree with. i wouldn't be surprised if he was still a public name in 10 years, seems to know what he's doing with branding.

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>>131570669
>>131571514

-He peddles fake news while accusing the left of doing the same
-He punches right all the time
-He's a gatekeeper trying to steer the right momentum into Neocons 2.0
-He claims to be MUH MAGA while hanging out with anti-Trump leftist kikes (pic related)
-He has 0 higher ideals, only cares about his "brand" and business

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I just hate how something will happen in the political landscape, and his first response is to make some balloon claim that he called "X" a solid 2 weeks ahead of it actually happening
Then he'll periscope and twitterstorm it up, acting like Nostradamus until you either bow to his superior intellect, or he goes after you like a (((totally socially adjusted))) adult.
In all reality, he kind of reminds me of Anita Sarkeesian. All bark, no bite. And always trying to force the spotlight on themselves
Just... ya know, with different motives

>>131570669
He's the best role model and inspiration for young men, which is why he is under heavy fire.

He promotes reading books and critical thinking, staying fit, having a wife and a kid and actual journalism. Try reading one of his books so you can form your own opinion about him.

>>131570669
I don't have a problem with him. I don't have a problem with Spencer either.

We all have our thing. We just need to stay out of each other's way and not punch right. If some alt-lite ppl punch right a bit, ignore it (unless they are obv fakes like the rebel media crew, then destroy them).

Vox seems to think Cernovich is relatively sympathetic to the alt-right, even tho he has a hard on for spencer and his little band.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what there fucking e-celebs do. We're riding a tide of history that is much bigger than any of us, even the god emperor. We all need to do our part for our nations and stay out of each other's way.

>>131576742
you stole mine.

typical mexican

>>131571881

Maqaque Mindset

Fuck off, Mike. You and Jack are fucking cancer.

>>131572811

that was funny

>>131599376
They're literally government employees

>>131574269
/pol/ doesn't like anyone that takes their values to the mainstream, and makes it all about themselves. Any kind of self promotion.

>>131572850

And I thought I was a degenerate.

Also, Cernovich was raped by a nigger. We should give him support. Start adding him to the victim pictures in the nigger hate threads

Forced to deep throat while crying, that's rough.

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>Tamarin Training

>>131598764
He's under "heavy fire" because he literally hates his target demographic and has nothing in common with them.

>>131573072

yah he doesn't go jq, but he *does* do stuff of worth. He has occasional good breaks and has a pretty good audience that he redpills about some stuff.

can't expect everyone to be full /pol/. He and the alt-lite are great recruiters for us and there is literally nothing they can do to weaken us. counter-signaling won't reduce our numbers at all. they use our memes, the holes in their beliefs are patched by us taking it to the next step. Their existence feeds our numbers.

>>131571514
i agree, he breaks good stories sometimes and has more balls than any of his detractors here.

>>131573322

no. way too much of a stretch.

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I met Cernovich in a bar in NYC before the 2nd debate AMA

>>131570669
It's called fetal dysmorphia. Good genetics but somebody left a thumbprint on the fetus...

>>131574115

I don't mind the first one in principle. fuck the left, disrupt their bullshit. Granted, it was a really, REALLY cringy way to do it but whatever.

The second was pretty shitty.

The third is petty.

The alt lite will swipe right occasionally. ignore it.

>>131599766
If he literally hates his target demographic (audience) then why does he chat with them on Periscope and YT multiple times per week and talk about stuff they want to talk about and answer questions?

>>131573322
dude not the same face. the nose is completely different, hair color not the same, beard hair is growing in different.

>>131570669
He's Jewish and known to subvert via his leaked tweets back in 2012. Literally

>>131599866
Fuck off Kike

why the fuck is this thread still alive. fuck off nobody gives a shit about the mike cernovich asshole

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>>131572850

>>131572891
Surprise Surprise another stratfor disinfo shill on the Alex Jones circuit. (((Who))) would have guessed?

>>131574863
>https://youtu.be/62WXBkDdImg
thank god we don't have leaders b/c we would be fucked.

>>131570669
Baboon brains everyone get your baboon brains here!

>>131571514
hey mike

>>131571881
Simian strategy

>>131571881
Baboon bedtime stories

>>131570669
lithten mike, it'th the fact that you're a fucking dithguthting jew opportunitht.

there'th nothing you can do to fikth it.

real talk you're just annoying and i don't buy into your bullshit, you're a fucking jew shill and flip flop on whatever is most convenient for you and you don't give a fuck because, again, you're a thpineleth kike.

get fucked. thanks for helping trump get elected though

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>>131571514
1: He's not successful. He's a lawyer who has never practiced law and took ten years to pass the bar. He's a low-tier writer who separated some idiots from their money with a bad book.

2: He's a disgusting degenerate who got deepthroated by a tranny, so frankly he's not a respectable person.

3 and most importantly: He is a brazen hypocrite and a total cringelord. When that stupid cucklord Posbeic humiliated himself with that dumb cunt Laura Loomer interrupting that play, Cernovich seemed completely oblivious to the fact that he and the Alt-Lite built their ENTIRE movement up around free speech. They were literally carrying around signs that looked like Antifa could've written them, "HUUU HUUU HUUUUUUUUU HATE SPEECH ISN'T FREE SPEECH HUUUU HUUUUUU"

The lack of self awareness here is so dumbfounding. I am actually, literally dumbstruck by the stupidity of what they did and their inability to examine it. This is so much worse than anything any of the actual edgelords like Spencer or Anglin have ever done, because it is proof--empirical, undeniable proof--that Cernovich and his idiot friends don't believe a word of what they've said in the past. Hypocrisy is the absolute poison pill that kills any movement, and the Alt-Lite lost all credibility in the aftermath, which is why their KEKED rally was literally outdone by white nationalists in the heart of fucking DC.

So please, tell me more about this success who just proved objectively that his "brand" is blatant hypocrisy. Nothing he says, ever, should be taken seriously again, because we now know that he doesn't believe anything he says. I was leaning in their direction for a long time but I never trusted Cernovich and now I am 100% vindicated in that mistrust, I've abandoned all pretenses of suggesting cooperation. They are scum. They are criminals. They should all be ashamed of themselves but they aren't because they have no principles, they're scam artists. What a fucking joke.

He lie for mammon.

>>131577071
can't be real

>>131577346
Elaborate?

I've never heard about this, what a douche

>>131571881
6 gorillion reality frame

>>131577438
eh...spencer is trying to get fame. cernovich, money.

I don't mind either of them. they both have their place. spencer puts himself out there and will take bullets for people, which is admirable. cern has built something out of nothing, which is also admirable. they both have faults, they both have good qualities.

>>131577071
It was a joke. But he is a dickless dick

>>131600005
nobody gives a fuck gavin

He deleted his tweets explicitly denouncing "White Genocide," O.P.

>>131570669
literal sell out shill kike whose only end goal is shekels. the type of guy who'd sell out his mother for an extra shekel. In fact much like all jews just like that traitor Judas and he should be gassed

>>131572591
Beautiful AC unit. Probably 2000-4000 watthours worth of fun.

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>>131570669
He attacks the right, he attacks our/guy, so what use is he? He is useless, let him be a punching bag for antifa, as he pretends to be on the right.

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>>131572096
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>>131600412

Every fucking time.

Hi literally took $5000+ in donations after the Manchester Bombing and when anyone including myself asks for proof of where donations went we get BLOCKED. Look it up. https://youtu.be/b6yahM7k8jY

He is a slimy little faggot with a gay supplement range and a terrible self-help book. His videos are shouty and fucking boring, since they go on for like 2 hours. He acts like a lispy faggot highschooler, trying to shun people and create a 'cool clique' of disgusting Jews that all attention whore on twitter and collect donations. Also, he is a crybaby faggot. And his "sources" use him as a tool because they have him by the balls, he is only taken seriously because they leak selected material to him. What a failure. But actually a high-level Jew sent to infiltrate and then suppress wrongthinkers.

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>>131570669
He's probably a spook.
That Posobiec cunt is most likely one as well.
That Wintrich faggot is a fucking over-compensating kike.
They are all a pack of liars and dishonourable backstabbers.
Fuck the Alt-lite.

Eyes too close.

>>131571514
Is he a member of any BAR association? If he does have a law license, he seems to put it at risk an awfully lot. Either way, you can tell he's broke, generating very little if any real income. He's a 40yo unemployed lawyer (?) who tweets and periscopes all day. And he married and impregnated bottom-feeding low-grade trash. Now he dickrides Alex Jones like a desperate grubby fuck that he is. Alex should distance himself from this seedy creep

>>131570669
40yo unemployed lawyer who sits at home and tweets all day?
Yeah, definitely sounds like a guy with really high emotional IQ.. someone we should all take life advice from. And his hygiene looks suspect. Always looks like he needs a shower

>>131605098
the wintrich kid is a degenerate club faggot larping as a right winger for attention

>>131605098
this faggot isn't dominating shit lmao

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>mike with his potato baby

>>131602842
yeah, he's broke. it's obvious. he's unemployed and living in a crappy house his parents prob pay for

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>>131605871
He's a stay at home dad. Its progressive

Beady eyes never aren't a problem personality

>>131570669
his eyes are too close together

>>131570908
This.
Anyone who talks weird is automatically a virtue signaler trying to be accepted.

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>>131571881
Primate power. Honestly guy is ok in my books, does more good than harm. Talks about himself and family too much.

>>131605871
His Patreon donations are over 5k a month. Plus he Jewed his ex wife for some cash. I don't think he's truly broke, just a greedy Jew.

>>131605417
He made millions in alimony and pay outs from his first wife, guy was already set for life before starting his online career. Not a self made man

>>131607231
a desperate jew like him probably cycles money into patreon every month to make it look like people give af about him. put 4k in, cash out, re donate it every month... an illusion

>>131607491
bulllllll shit. you can tell he's broke af. he used to film everything in his parents house. if he had even a million he wouldn't have married and impregnated that dog

>>131600603
Good post, I agree

>>131573273
He's not, but you better bring proof.

The stupidest shit I ever saw from him was when he was trying to say that there were intentional formatting and spelling errors in his book. He knew about them and didn't change them.

>>131600603
This is perfect.

>>131600691
Literally on his wiki page, and he actually boasts about it on his website too I think
He claims it was a 7 figure settlement, probably wasn't, but he still cashed in big

>>131609061
just him trying to spin or rationalize being an unemployed 40yo failed lawyer. derrr i don't have to work, i have so much money in the bank. riiiight

>>131571881

Godzilla Mindtricks

>>131572102

Trogdolyte Thinking

>>131572102
Gorilla Mindset

>>131571881
Bonobo brainstorm

>>131609682

LURK MOAR!

>>131571881
Ape Appropriation

>>131570669
he's a jew and he married a sandnigger

>>131570669
He's a mesomorph. I hate all mesomorps because they're subhumans.

>>131570669
He talks like a retard.

>>131570669
Juicer trans-man ladyboy fucker snake oil salesman.

>>131571881
Nigger Mentality. 5/5 worth the read.

literally sells blue pills

>>131600603
Underrated

>>131570669
his face

>>131576277
>substance abuse

what was he on?

>>131576484
>Jewith

he is an opportunistic shillberg latches on to movements going form one to the next, has a massive ego and doesn't admit when he is wrong.

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>>131571514
> u mad bro?
i fucking hate this attitude. the whole board is swamped with redditors going "WHAT YOU THINK OF THIS YOUTUBER??" and then when people inevitably tell them to fuck off the answer is always "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE LATELY??? LOSER". i swear to god this pathetic cultish need to look up to celebs is fucking retarded, you're not doing it for his words. you want to be a his fanboy.