>California is a shitho-

-le

>>131565078
Fake news.

>>131565078
great not adjust it for population size

>>131565078
>Not understanding that California has 12 million more people than the next largest state
>Not understanding that most of their GDP above Texas is from hollywood

>>131565078
make your own faggoty gentrified country then

>>131565078
It is hole.

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>>131567395
>>131567662
Not relevant. People want to come to California precisely because it's so great.

And Hollywood is a small fraction of California's GDP. California btfos every country in almost every industry.

>GDP
>An actual measure of something important

Pro tip of the day: If Jews tell you it's good, without explaining, very plainly and in great detail, why and how it is good, it probably isn't good and they are more than likely trying to sell you something.

>look at all of these Californians going into debt, isn't this good!

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>>131565078
>Not GDP per capita
Yawn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita

CA is number 8 OP. Maybe if you didn't have so many mexicans earning jack shit you'd be number 1

>>131565078
>money
>happyness

kys u faggot

>>131565078
so that's just states by population.

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>>131565078

>>131568110
GDP is high, but why the short fall in over all expenditures?
Why the high taxes if the GDP is so boss?
Wheres the money go?

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>>131568871
California has high taxes on the rich.

>>131565078

there's more to life than money

Germany has a higher GDP than California, kek

they committed suicide. millions of Islamists, many of them jihadists. corrupted by leftism and feminism

money isn't going to save you

>>131568110
>Not relevant
Population is absolutely relevant you fucking retard.
>>131568598
like this anon pointed out, the GDP per capita is not even in the top 5 US states.

Do you also think China is an excellent place to live because it's GDP is so high?

>>131565078
billions into the pocket of billionaire Jews isn't the well being of the general population. California is extremely expensive to live in, and a lot of regular folk are leaving it.

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Why do the blue states like CA and NY contribute far more to the federal budget than dumbfuck red states?

Aren't most red states net recipients of federal aid whilst blue states are net contributors?

Republicans are the biggest welfare leeches of all it seems...

>>131565078
NJ, a state that is a 30th the size of California can produce a quarter of their GDP.

>>131569056
Correlation does not mean causation

By your logic, Mexico and India must be so much better than Poland and Norway.

>>131569348
more like: rich white democrats get to pay for welfare for niggers

>>131569348
The only reason California and New York is rich is because those states support immigration, so billionaire jews see this and they all go there because it's cheap labour for them.
immigration do bring GDP but it fucks regular americans because the wages are lowered and this benefit billionaires only.

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>>131569236
holy shit you're retarded

California is #8 out of 50 in gdp per capita. That's amazing for a state with 40 million people. It's easier for smaller states to have a high gdp per capita. The #1 country in the world for gdp per capita is Qatar. #2 is Luxembourg

btw 4 of the top 5 are blue states

THANKS OBAMA

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>>131569435

>>131569586
So red states are full of niggers?

>>131569656
Hmmm... It's almost as immigration is good for the economy...

Almond status: activated.

>>131565078
now show the one with taxes, number of people and resources

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita

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>>131569904
4 of 5 are blue states

DC is #1

>>131565078
great now post the debt lmao

>>131569869

>Hmmm... It's almost as immigration is good for the economy...

What is this "economy" you're talking about and how do you measure it?

Immigrants most certainly raise the GDP and make the rich richer, but it drastically lowers the standard of life for the average person.

>>131568598
United States is number 20 on GDP per capita relative to other nations. GDP per capita tells you nothing about dominance, influence, or the quality of the economic structures in place, especially when there is freedom of movement. It's as good as Jeff Bezos saying he has more net worth per strand of hair compared to Bill Gates.

>>131569869
>So red states are full of niggers?

no shit sherlock

>>131565078
That's not per capita, dipshit.

>>131565078
>debt higher than GDP
>doesn't show GDP per capita
>fails to mention the HUGE population
kys

t.714

>>131569688
DC is that high up with all those niggers? Government salaries are also not the best. How?

>>131570062

Why is GDP Per Capita important if most of the wealth you produce in your job is sucked up by your Jewish boss?

NYC may have a high GDP Per Capita, but its median wage is LOWER than the median wage of the country.

>>131570350
jesus everything is n word with you people

>>131565078
>GDP is purely a measurement of spending
How fucking retarded are you faggots? Do you not understand that GDP isn't a measure of economic strength or growth, merely an indicator that a nation is spending a lot of money on something. I swear to christ this argument always makes me want to blow my brains out.

>>131570473
nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger.

then why are you here?

>>131570276
I don't get it though. /pol/ makes it sound as if niggers always vote democrat.

/pol/ also claims that immigrants are drains on the economy and just leech welfare. If that's true then how do explain the fact that blue states are far more prosperous than red states? How is a state like CA even still running if it has so many welfare leeches?

>>131570201
What the fuck? That's not how it works mate. If the economy is doing well then everyone is doing well. If companies can hire foreign workers for low wages then they can afford to sell their products cheaper etc... It's good for everyone.

Where are you getting that only the rich benefit from immigration? Are you some kind of pinko?

>>131570350
>>131569688

>Ethnic composition. The population distribution is 49% black, 43.6% white, 5.0% other

DC is NOT correct. Probably didn't adjust for commuters or something

>>131570350

Government workers in the US make a lot.

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>>131570589
Obama divided America tho right?

>>131569348
>t. fat and crosseyed

>>131570201
Just wait till these 'immigrants' have to be paid 15 bucks an hour.

>>131570639
They don't make 160k on average

Or 300+k taking into account all the nigger nigger niggers

>>131570350
>Government salaries are also not the best
nigger what?

>>131569348
those states have the highest debts by far

just wait until they have to pay up

>>131567662
You mean 12 million more Mexicans? I wouldn't call them people.

>>131570473
N I G G E R
I
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>>131570459
I'm not the one here advocating that metric

> but its median wage is LOWER than the median wage of the country.

that's not true

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>>131569056
> France puts high tax on the very wealthy
> France now doesn't have any more very wealthy people
> middle class and higher middle class are affected badly

Fucking socialists man.

>>131569056
It has high taxes on everyone. Highest income tax, highest sales tax, and highest gas tax.

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>>131570603
>being this triggered by DC having highest GDP per capita

>>131570786
For example an FBI agent makes around 70k. How is that close to 160k?

>>131570812
>just wait until they have to pay up
Who's going to make them pay up? The federal govt? I don't think you understand how debt works in this case. It's not the same thing as a bank loan mate.

>>131570592

> If the economy is doing well then everyone is doing well.

Except that's not true. The past 40 years of wage stagnation is proof that the economy doing "well" means jackshit.

>If companies can hire foreign workers for low wages then they can afford to sell their products cheaper etc

This is why you are a poor fuck. This sentence right here shows you have no business acumen.

Businesses NEVER consider the cost of production when pricing products. Cost of production creates a price floor, but unless you work in some niche field like the gaming console business, products are never ever sold at their cost of production.

Demand is the primary driver of prices, which is why even after illegal immigrant Mexicans displaces white construction workers, prices of homes have skyrocketed despite lower construction costs.

In fact, immigrants actually lower wages and increase the price of products, since their presence increases the demand of all products and increase rent.

>>131570813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI_y8XT8oXc

>>131569688
GTFO leaf, you have no understanding of US economics, and you have the audacity to call me retarded for it.

It is not simply easier for smaller states to have a higher GDP. Literally just look at the entire chart from which that pic was taken, and you will see that there is NO pattern following your hypothesis.

>btw 4 of the top 5 are blue states
Yeah no shit, they're massive population centers on the east coast. Once again, just look at the rest of the chart and you will see that there is no solid pattern of blue states making more than red states.

FFS leaf

>>131570592

Niggers do indeed always vote democract, they are kept at bay by gerrymandering, you dont seem to understand how american politics work

also, anyone can be "prosperous" by taking debt

Illionis is about to go bankrupt for being unable to pay the debt interests, and the same with other blue states

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>>131570916
"It is striking to note that the best growth years for the bottom 99 percent since 1990 have taken place in the mid to late 1990s and since 2013, shortly after increases in top tax rates," Saez wrote.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/economicdevelopment/study-obama-tax-hikes-on-rich-didnt-hurt-economy-or-rich/2301353

>>131569435
I can hear your tears behind your screen

>>131565078
>population of the state: the chart

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>>131569869
>red states are full of niggers?
Look up the black belt

>>131571009
I never professed to be an expert on economics but I've never heard a single respected economist claim that immigration increases the price of products and damages the economy. That's quite an absurd statement.

>>131568110
If people continue to go there it will become increasingly not great though.

>>131570993
I'm not triggered.

It just doesn't reflect the facts on the ground

See this

http://www.geocurrents.info/economic-geography/misleading-statistics-case-luxembourg-will-rayner

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>>131571085
>Yeah no shit

Yeah no shit blue states are richer. Thanks for confirming.

>>131569869
not everything is fucking GDP okay? you can't measure safety, cleanliness, freedom, and low crime rates with GDP, these migrants bring GDP, but also crimes, drugs, rape with them, so is it worth to pay the price? for billionaires it is because they live in closed mansions with top security, it's the rest of us that gets fucked by it, stop being a boot licker of billionaire jews.

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>>131570672
yeah race relations have been just dandy since BLM came to be. But its dem racis whites doe.

>>131571272

> I've never heard a single respected economist claim that immigration increases the price of products and damages the economy

Are these "respected economists" the same morons who said there was no housing bubble back in 2008/2009?

I took graduate level econ classes back in college. Modern economic theory is all bullshit.

>>131571163
this is a fair point. median income is a good metric but i don't think there is a state by state analysis where it is adjusted for PPP. that would be a good indicator

>>131570502
Its reflective of what an economy produces dick wad it's still a good economic measurement

>>131571331
now you're making my point for me

it's easy for smaller jurisdictions to have a high gdp per capita

>>131571272
really depends on the source of the immigration

>>131570997
all of congress makes over 300k

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>>131571410
right wing retards have absolutely fucking 0 self-awareness

>nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger. >>131570589

>>131571349
Hey look, a leaf has no reading comprehension, go figure. Thanks for bumping my post and looking retarded while you did it.

>>131571091
>Illionis is about to go bankrupt
What the fuck are you talking about?

I mean I'm no expert on US politics but you're telling me that Illinois with the 2nd or 3rd biggest city in the US is going to go bankrupt? Do you realise how insane that sounds? That would be a national emergency if that were the case.

Pretty much every developed country in the world is in debt to some degree. Do you think we're all going to go bankrupt because China is going to call us one day and ask us to pay up?

>>131571222
I guess it's true then. I always thought niggers lived mainly in the big cities. I've never been to the south.

>>131570350
GDP isn't just salary. It's all spending in an area. Every time the government builds a new office building in DC it counts towards the local GDP. The per capita part is also pretty low because only ~700k people live there.

>>131571272
>but I've never heard a single respected economist claim that immigration increases the price of products and damages the economy. That's quite an absurd statement.

This (ironically) Swedish economist thinks otherwise. And he's on the FED board.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3440952?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

>>131571548

This is actually a fair viewpoint.

The problem with 3rd world immigrants is that they consume more than they produce, leading to an imbalance with supply and demand, which ultimately leads to inflation.

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>>131569688
you have to be baiting. Anyone who doesn't adjust for cost of living is retarded.
Actual Purchasing Power by state.
When my mortgage and property taxes are 1/4 for the same house in the midwest who is really making more money?

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>>131566463
fpbp
>highest taxes in the world
>can't go for a jog without running over a hobo
>filled with mexicans
>welfare state
>nanny state
>gun laws are shit
>horrible weather
>la is shit
>oakland

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>>131571634
>Yeah no shit, they're massive population centers on the east coast.

>>131565078
Go by GDP per capita and CA is 8th.

California is a pretty nice place to live if you're white, east Asian or Indian. It's a shithole for everyone else (Latinos, natives, south Asians, blacks).

>t. white Californian

>>131571611
you obviously missed the point.

>jesus everything is n word with you people

i was pointing out how pointless your aversion to the word nigger is in a place like this.

>>131571657
I live in Illinois, and trust me that it is national news (or at least Midwest-level news) that Illinois is about to go bankrupt. It's just not world-wide level news.

>>131565078
Gdp per capita tells you more. India has a high Gdp.

>>131571830
>horrible weather
Dude Southern California and Southern France have objectively the most pleasant climates in the world. Mild, sunny, 60-80 degrees year round.

>>131571819
How the fuck was I baiting when I was going by the same metric that other people in this thread were using. Are you fucking retarded?

>>131569236
>>131569688

You retards can't even follow a convo chain on a Cambodian carpet weaving forum.

North Dakota has insanely high cost of living. What is your source for that chart?

>>131565078

Allow me to finish your sentence.
California is a SHITHOLE

>>131571603
To rephrase: GDP for DC or Luxembourg is calculated correctly but highly misleading. It does NOT reflect in any way the average income of a resident of DC.

Agree?

>>131568110
Since 1990 millions of Californians have moved to other states.

>>131571830
Also LA isn't shit if you live up in the hills or on the coasts. It's home to some of the nicest neighborhoods in the world.

>>131571548
So I guess white people = good and brown people = bad or something like that?

>>131571420
>I took graduate level econ classes back in college.
And that gives you enough insight to argue against the most senior leading economists of today?

>>131571395
I never said everything was about GDP but it's pretty fucking important to most people. If the economy is in the dumps then people get laid off, the get evicted from their homes, they lose their health insurance, etc... They're fucked.

You think it's okay to risk all that just so you don't have to see brown people?

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>>131571976
because it's filled with racists who deny they're racists?

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>>131571833
i rather live on the right desu
>less noise
>less traffic
>rent isn't $2000 a month for a 10x10ft single bedroom apartment

>>131565078
>Basing the quality of your state on GDP

>>131572014
its 97 here right now idiot
t.orange county

>>131571657
>>131571987
Here, this is related and recent:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/could-illinois-be-the-first-state-to-file-for-bankruptcy/

>>131571532
See this, I'm too tired to get it right
>>131572073

>>131572086
Those are just poorfags who can't afford to live in the white areas of LA.

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>>131572163
>surrounded by meth heads

>>131571675
True

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>>131569688
>8th in GDP per capita
>nobody can afford anything

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>>131572014
>drought
>pleasant

>>131572218
You're critiquing GDP per capita as an accurate reflection of the average worker's well being. I don't disagree.

That's why I always laugh at right wing retards for their Obama muh 3% GDP meme

see >>131571452

>>131572212
Only 84 in LA right now, and it's been in the 70s for this past week.

>>131572090
>if you have a ton of money shit places aren't so shit cuz you're living in a nice house in a gated neighborhood
by that standard mexico and the philippines are good places to live
almost made me think for a second

>>131570183
<Cali debt: 460 billion.
<UsDebtclock.org

K E K

>>131572153

>And that gives you enough insight to argue against the most senior leading economists of today?

If you're autistic enough to think that the economy can be modelled with some bullshit stat distribution, then go right ahead. I'm sure your leftist pseudo-intellectual friends at Starbuck's can all pat you on the back because you can't think for yourself and you have to rely on morally questionable people in positions of power.

>>131572154
oh i dont deny it. I embrace it. Why is being racist bad? I want to preserve my way of life and my race as a whole. Unlike you id never trade my survival for the opportunity to appear nicer to a particular race that wasn't my own.

>>131572319
picks one of the most expensive cities in the world vs another liberal bastion btw

really makes me think

>>131572324
drought is over

what is wrong with u people

>>131572428
There are more rich people here than there are in those countries. Stop making excuses for you miserable existence poorcuck

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>>131572477
Obama did more for white people than any Republican president ever did.

>>131572216
>>131571987
Okay I stand corrected. That's the first I've heard of it. I honestly would never have guessed that Illinois would be a state to go bankrupt.

The article says it's because they can't afford to pay people's pension though. It has nothing to do with niggers, immigrants, libcucks or whatever.

>>131572248
>implying being surrounded by potheads is somehow better
even if i got a nice building where all the tenants are nice white people i still would rather live on the right because i could pay less than $500 a month there and have more room
could build a fence with the leftover money

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>>131565078
GDP doesn't measure prosperity at all. It only measures how much shit you make.
China has the largest GDP on Earth and the average Chinese citizen lives on a tiny subsistence farm with no electricity. I know for a fact that while California makes a lot of shit, the average Californian is a spic that lives in a tiny concrete apartment. It would actually be a net gain if you worthless shitters seceded, that way your filth wouldn't be allowed free movement into the white parts of the country.

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>>131572437
California GDP is over 2 trillion

brb

>>131572589
that doesn't save your pathetic argument
and i have $10k in my bank account

>>131570062
im not a right winger
just an educated guy pissed off when i hear retards like op

>>131571349
retarded pic, republicans are autistic megalomaniacs but they are sure as hell not the reason taht south is poor,
well they actually are, but that pretty much belongs to history
>>131571611
unlike peaceful and nice trump protesters who are much better
>>131571833
if you think left is better (politics unrelated) i recommend you to see a psychiatrist
>>131572154
dylan roof is a coke addict who murdered a bunch of old people

>>131572615
i didnt know Obama built western civilization and founded the US.

>>131572046
>Being this triggered by logic
I merely pointed out that pure GDP output on a statewide level is not a great indicator of how good a state is to live in. You are the one going autistic and claiming that we think GDP per capita is the only metric for comparing states.

>>131572681
>GDP doesn't measure prosperity at all

It does if it is per capita.

>>131572707
>23 posts by this ID.
Someone is shilling like he's never shilled before.

>>131572757
My argument is simply that California is a nice place to live for white people. It's not that controversial of a proposition, really.

>>131572866

No, it doesn't.

GDP Per Capita doesn't take into account how wages are distributed amongst the population.
You can have a high ass GDP Per Capita, yet have the median income by half the GDP Per Capita (America).

>>131572866
There are still more factors involved than that. For example, the state I live in, Illinois, is ranked 12th in the US for GDP per capita, and yet it is going bankrupt and people are leaving here faster than any other state.

>>131566463
FPBP

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>>131572502
>North Dakota is insanely expensive
>its largest city has an average cost of living

>>131572387
For CA I do believe it is a fairly good measure.

>>131572454
I mean, I'm not an economist. I have only a rudimentary understanding of economics so obviously I'm going to defer such matters to the experts.

>>131572046
My bad to go ham. I don't think anyone should be debating non-adjusted numbers.
From the governments own mouth
US Chamber of Commerce-Bureau of Economic Analysis
https://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/regional/rpp/2015/pdf/rpp0615.pdf

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California is a shitho-

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Purchasing power is what matters and California is pretty low on that list.

>>131572014
>60-80 degrees year round
Shits a lot hotter than 80 degrees.

>>131569688
CT is on a sharp decline - there are a lot of wealthier older people but younger people are moving because there are so few jobs there and the cost of living is way too high. I'm from Fairfield County but moved to Maryland because I didn't want to choose between commuting over an hour every day to New York City or renting an apartment for an absurd price in or just outside the city.

>>131565078
>implying GDP determines how good a place is
I rather live in a poor white shithole then some racemixed rich shitholem

>>131572681
you're mostly right but the average chinese lives in a shitty apartment in the city
farmers have a much better standard of living than city dwellers but they make up a small percentage of the population

>>131573180
Not where I live. It rarely goes above 90 degrees, usually stays around 70 to 85 during the summer.

>>131565078
Taxes are insane there, gas is often over $2.50 per gallon, rent is practically unaffordable, niggers and spics everywhere.
Something you didn't look at, faggot OP: the crime rates.

>>131573112

>I'm going to defer such matters to the experts

And this is why the left is always wrong.

Are you leftists naïve enough to think these "experts" you worship don't have their own agendas?

This schizophrenic climate change religion would have never taken off if everyone took 2 years to study intermediate statistics and some programming instead of trusting "experts" whose job it is to tow the alarmist narrative.

>>131568598
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita

Delawarean here. TOP 5 BABY

>>131568110
>people coming to California
Why did my grandparents move away from it? Why did my parents move away from it? Why did both of my uncles move away from it? Why am I seeing Cali license plates everywhere where I live (North Texas dense suburbs, this place is going to shit soon)? Same with New England license plates actually.
People are leaving that state because leftism has destroyed it and now they can't afford to live in the shithole they created, so they're going to other states to destroy them, too.

>>131573267
>farmers have a much better standard of living than city dwellers but they make up a small percentage of the population
The opposite is true.

Why do you think so many farmers' kids are moving to the cities to work in factories? City workers have a much better standard of living that fucking rice farmers.

Do you think people were better off before or after the industrial revolution?

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>>131573079
now show williston

This North Dakota Oil Town Has The Highest Rent In The Country
https://thinkprogress.org/this-north-dakota-oil-town-has-the-highest-rent-in-the-country-830e9732fd75

>>131572972
>being surrounded by mexicans that dont speak english and black gangs
>being a minority
>"nice"
i went to a lake in some rural town in northern california and out of the 200 people at the lake that day there was about 10 people that were white including myself and the rest were all mexican
its literally the shittiest of states in the entire damn country
glad i moved

>>131573027

Obviously a measure for an average is never gonna be used for distributions no matter what kind of distribution it is.

GDP measuring AVERAGE prosperity is a good measure with exceptions.

>>131573056

We're talking about icome on the individual's level.

>>131571833
Right is objectively better.

Infinite potential, compared to a box you go 2,000,000$ in debt to rent

>>131573458
Dude just live in one of the white areas
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:10_white_neighborhoods_in_Los_Angeles_County
And yeah these numbers are from 2000 but they haven't changed much because whites are still the upper class here and spics simply can't afford to live in these neighborhoods.

>>131573474

It's better to look at the whole distribution instead of looking at the average or median.

The Social Security administration actually breaks down income by percentile. Someone making the GDP Per Capita in the US would be at the 80-85th percentile in terms of income.

>>131573326
This is just paranoid delusion at this stage.

If you're going to claim that everyone that disagrees with you has a hidden nefarious agenda then what's the point in arguing with you?

Do you really think that 99% of scientists are part of a global conspiracy to destroy western economies? Fuck me dude...

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>>131573180
here's a pretty price parity index by the US chamber of commerce

>>131565078
India has a higher GDP and it's a bigger shithole than Cali

Infact some of the biggest shitholes have a high GDP

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>>131571833
>muh rural and suburban retard maymay
It's always this fucking leaf. Rural and suburban people are the actually productive and useful people of society. The doctors, the professors, the lawyers, the software developers, the forex traders, the investors, the entrepreneurs, the farmers, the plumbers, the electricians, the scientists of all varieties.

Those people all commute to urban areas. The people who actually live in urban areas are only niggers and spics (and the occasional FOB foreigner getting on their feet).
You are literally one of the most retarded posters on this board, I see you way too much and you never disappoint in making a "canadian edjewcayshun" meme of yourself

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>>131572617
Illinois has been a long time liberal state purely because of Chicago.
>pic related

The pension problem is really just part of our financial issues, but most of the blame lies with the stronghold unions have in this state and the power that Democrats have given to them.

Realistically, Chicago is to blame for 90% or more of our state's financial problems, which is why the rest of the state (and surrounding states) absolutely hate Chicago.

>>131573267
I watched a documentary about urbanization in China and the farmers (still more than >50% of the population) have it really bad. They are constantly battling starvation and they can't keep their farms running because all the children move to the cities to work in factories when they get old enough.

>>131573700

>Do you really think that 99% of scientists are part of a global conspiracy to destroy western economies?

It's not 99% of all scientists. It's 99% of a small group of scientists that were selected.

I don't understand why this is hard to believe. The reason why these scientists got to where they are is because they lied and towed the alarmist narrative. They have already proven that they are morally corruptible. Of course if you asked them if they believed in anthropogenic climate change, they would say yes. The ones who had an ounce of decency wouldn't have had an offer.

>>131568598
desu being in the top ten of both lists is a strong statement

My state sinks from top 15 GDP to bottom 15 per capita

>>131573179
It really is beautiful in Cali. Tourism is a large part of its GDP.

>>131573453
you're absolutely retarded
they move to the city to make money you shithead
pic related is how they live in the city in china
vs
>nice wooden house
>plenty of room
>clean air
>lots of land to walk around in
>can see the stars at night
>very little noise
>river nearby
>fresh milk
>don't need to drive to work
>no traffic
oh yeah living in the city is much better

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>>131573456
>small town doesn't have enough housing to accommodate the sudden influx of workers and demand for housing causes a price spike
Really made me think.

>>131573700

Also, I suggest you research Willie Soon, a tenured professor at Harvard whose academic life was destroyed because he opposed the Global Warming religion.

There is a very strong push in academia to write pro climate change papers, because that's where all the money is.

>>131568110
High GDP yet in a finacial deficit. GDP means nothing if you are so broke you are tettering on bankruptcy. The fact is if Cali goes much further to raise taxes, those industries that can leave for more profitable pastures. Also your affluent productive people will leave with them.

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>>131574123
forgot pic

>>131573696
Yeah I agree

>>131573989
There is absolutely no connection between land size times density and prosperity

>>131573690
>lmao dude just live in the white area
first of all, those areas are jewish, not white. Second of all, you need an absolutely massive cash flow to live in one of those gated communities. You can't just tell people "lmao just live with the hollywood actors dude, pay $150 every time you fill up your gas tank dude, the taxes aren't outrageous dude." because it's not practical unless your last name is Goldstein and your dad owns a fucking law firm

>>131569348
Because red states hate the government. Haven't you learned anything

>>131574123
Do you think living in rural China is the same as living in rural America? see>>131573898

These people can barely afford to feed themselves. Do you think they give a shit about the scenic beauty surrounding them?

>>131573941
How are they morally corruptible and alarmist? Because they disagree with you?

What motive do they have to lie about something like that? Who do you think is pushing the agenda here? The Chinese? You don't think that maybe republicans are the ones with vested interests here who want to push climate change under the rug?

>>131565078
> GDP per capita is a good measurement of human dev-
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

>>131573690
yeah so if you stay in your gated neighborhood and don't go anywhere else you'll be fine
sounds like a wonderful life
i rather live in maine or south dakota and be able to go anywhere and see nothing but white people and beautiful evergreens
you're an idiot
move to a different state you moron
you ever even SEEN another state?
anyone who thinks its a good idea to live in the most expensive states in the US Is an idiot
and those states are
>Hawaii
>New York
>Oregon
and
>CALIFORNIA

>>131571830
Being LITERALLY this mad
>Gorgeous weather
>Best local food
>Best cities
>All climate types accessible (mountain snow, forest camping, desert road tripping, stupid gorgeous beaches, farms and vinyards, top tier cities) literally allows locals to access elite quality climates of -are- types.
>Some of the highest earning industries in the country
>Some of the best civil planning and roadways
>Top tier food (elite Mexican, Asian /indian, African, Brazilian, BBQ, European, pubs, whatever)
>Some of the most idyllic neighborhoods in the world. Literally where the white picket fence American dream still lives.

Get btfo rest of the country. How can any other state hope to compete with the West coast?

>>131570062
Okay leaf yes, you are right, i have noiticed it as well, for some reson blue states work better then red ones, dare to explain why though?No seriusly why, by all logic it sholdn't be that way.

>>131574230
looks pretty comfy desu

>>131570201
>I didn't benefit from an immigration intensive economy so I'm questioning how you define (((economy))) instead of working on myself to improve my life.
Pol never disappoints. Thanks for the laugh anon.

>>131574363
First, ashkenazi Jews are white.
Second, most of the rich people here don't make their money from fucking Hollywood. Most of them are businessmen and entrepreneurs.
Third, I live in a white area, and my dad isn't like super rich. Our house is only like 3.5 mil.

>>131574506
you realize that making money=/=good standard of living
the people that live on farms in china can barely sustain themselves yes but the actual PLACE their living in is indisputably better than a 5x5ft box in the city just because they can afford a box of instant ramen for breakfast

>>131574560
take off that dixie flag you dirty Calinigger, fucking poser
>most idyllic neighborhoods
yeah and once you step outside the gates it's literally fucking Mexico where 98% of the state's population lives

>>131574506

> Because they disagree with you?

No, because they knowingly push fake shit on the masses so they can make money.

>What motive do they have to lie about something like that?

Uhh, how about their fucking rent or mortgage? Bills and utilities? Food?
A McDonald's wage isn't going to put food on the table for a family of 4.

>>131574560
This guy gets it.

It's fine though, dude, I'm glad these idiots are staying out if they hate it so much. More room for me.

>>131565078
This is only a result of tech companies that are located there, as well as Hollywood, which could both just as easily be located anywhere else in the country. There is nothing special about California, not in the slightest.

>>131570206
You are literally retarded if you think having a billion people with a dollar is proportional to 1000 people having a million dollars.

>>131574560
commiefornians are the worst
i left that shithole state and im never coming back
most of my family lives there but fuck it they can have their mexican infested garbage heap

>>131574693

No, jackass. I actually work in health insurance, which has seen a big boon thanks to immigrants driving up the cost of care and raising our profits.

>>131574525
Suit yourself. I'm not trying to convince you to move here or anything.

>People falling for the good old American with leaf proxy that has an entire folder with misleading "facts" that exists just to trigger everyone
Come on lads, sage and move on.

>>131572502
Fuck this trolling leaf poster.

EVERY major city in the US is liberal. There are no exceptions. The very nature of big cities produces Democratic voters and amplifies it via groupthink psychology.

Why do you think it is that California has so many of the most expensive cities to live in, in the US?

>>131565078
>>California is a shitho-
Hey faggot. Do you see something wrong with your chart? California has 40 million people. Vermont has half a million.

Learn some basic statistics, you fucking retard!

>>131574794
>rural bumfucked poor POS getting so pathetic and desperate hes willing to praise chink farmer living in mid hutts than admit living in the city with money is better.
Who do they find special snowflakes like you?

>>131574794
>you realize that making money=/=good standard of living
Tell that to someone who's fucking starving mate!

Do you honestly not believe that wealth and living standards are correlated? WTF??

Why do you think they move to the cities to find work if life is so much better in the countryside?

>>131574860
Okay so you think that they're being bribed to lie about climate change. So I guess the million dollar question is: by whom?

Please don't say da j00s xD

>>131574760
>First, ashkenazi Jews are white.
Not according to science, bitch.

>>131575148

>Okay so you think that they're being bribed to lie about climate change. So I guess the million dollar question is: by whom?

If they speak their mind, they get fired. Not even tenure can save you, as shown by what happened to Willie Soon.

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>>131574760
>ashkenazi jews are white
>not rich
>3.5 mil house
okay, you're definitely a troll. kill yourself you mouth breathing retard, this is the last reply you'll get from me

>>131565078
>gdp is high
>must mean not a shithole

>>131574760
He's right boys its only 3.5million a year. His ole man only makes half a million a year.

>>131574967
and im trying to convince YOU you have stocholm syndrome and unless trump stomps on the neck of your piece of shit sanctuary cities and deports your 20 mil illegals california WILL collapse on itself

>>131574851
CA has flaws. I grew up there, I would know.
>Cost of living is prohibitive.
>Inland socal is hot as fuck. Great to travel through but hard to live in.
>NorCal, by shasta, is redneck as fuck.

There are a lot of Asian and Latino immigrants, it's true. However they contribute to making awesome food.l readily available.

Sure there are bad neighborhoods, the state is gigantic. But they're easy to avoid and don't detract from any of the benefits.

>Also being that mad that I live in Nashville now.

I'll keep the current flag thanks.

>>131568598
Nigger detected.
All those like states are mainly niggers and spics.
New Hampshire is one of the best states I have ever lived in, and I'm from Texas.

>>131575145
>urban prole defending his hamster box
at least your suffering won't be too long because population centers are the first to get nuked

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Stop Larping roman politics americunts

>>131575264
No you idiot, he only makes like $600k-$1 M per year. The house costed him $3.5 mil.

>>131574951
>So retarded he deprives himself of the best state because he's in eyeshot of brown people.

They're honestly better off without you.

>>131575223
According to wiki he had to go because of issues regarding declaration of funding not because of his results

>>131574560
>Gorgeous weather
Droughts

>Best local food
>Top tier food (elite Mexican, Asian /indian, African, Brazilian, BBQ, European, pubs, whatever)
Nigger I've been to all 50 states and California has nowhere near the best food. I sure hope this is a troll attempt.

>>131565078
>muh gee dee peeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>131575148
im talking about the actual area
disregarding the people that are starving (which a lot of them aren't anymore because their relatives send them money)
if you take someone living in the city who has the money to sustain himself vs someone living in a farm who has the money to sustain himself the person living on the farm has a much MUCH better place to live

>>131570993
Its home to the wealthiest most influential people in the wealthiest nation on earth no shit its going to have a high GDP

>>131575416
I accidently wrote that "a year". I lowballed your ole man's income. I was going to say 500k was his net but the higher the income the rarer it is.

>>131565078
Biggest shithole I've been to. Homeless people everywhere, people passed out on the street, people tripping their balls out, thugs fucking everywhere, constant glass shattering and police sirens, guy on the street counting money singing 'it's my crack and heroine time' and a fag dressed as mr slave. And that was just San Francisco.

Everything between LA and SF was pretty cool though.

>>131575555
>Drought's
Yeah... SoCal is hot. No one is denying that. If you'd ever been there though, you'd know how retarded that statement is. Bay area + mountains + NorCal is fine.

>Been to all 50 states
Lol, k bud.
Sorry you you have shit taste in food

>>131565078
If California is so great, why do you cancerous faggots keep moving here?

>>131574794
if you have ever experienced starvation you would change your mind very quickly. Also, Chinese farms aren't like our farms. Chinese farmers can usually only afford less than half an acre of land with a small wood hut on it in the middle of the shitty ass steppes of central China.
living somewhere acceptable and starving is worse than living in a box and having food, otherwise chinks would stay on their farms.

>>131574560
Califag here
I'll give you the weather and the food
But you know we're going to hell
Taxes are pretty high, and they're mostly spent on idiotic projects, and pensions/high public salaries
Roads are shit, and becoming shittier by the day. Maintenance is less frequent. Bay Area is supposed to be filthy rich, and roads are a disgrace
> but.muh public transport
agreed, with this pop and taxes, it should be top tier
have you boarded BART recently?
last time I used LA metro it was shit too
public transit is a joke

california is great today because is reaping the benefits of a crazy housing market, silicone valley, and little agriculture competition
check back in a couple years, when the drought effects are full visible
we're heading towards an illinois liberal catastophre, but people see nothing yet because money is still flowing

>>131575716
So why would the wealthiest and most influential people choose to live in a shithole?

>>131575800
sounds a lot like netherlands tbph

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>>131575464
your state is in a bubble
you can delude yourself into believing it won't pop but there isn't a single financial expert that will tell you to live in california because they know that toilet of a state is NOT i repeat *NOT* sustainable

but if you think living in a state that has housinc costs that are factors of 10 more expensive than other states
and cost of living is 2-3x more than other states
then you're really just too stupid to help at this point!

>>131575223
Show me evidence that scientists will get fired if they challenge climate change.

You still haven't told me who's bribing/threatening them and for what reason. Is it the Chinese like Drumpf said?

>>131575592
Well sure. I'd much rather quit my job in London and go and live in rural Switzerland but there's much more money to be made here.

I'd love to see you go and tell some poor hungry Chinese farmer that he's lucky to be living there and much better off than those guys in suits in Beijing and Shanghai.

>>131568784
>unironically buying into the jew propaganda
>You don't need that money, goy! It will make you unhappy!

>>131571104
Are you kidding faggot obama added 9 trillion to the overall US debt while bush only added 5 trillion

>>131576044
>muh bubble
You people keep saying this about China and Cali and it never comes to fruition...

>>131576052
>Well sure. I'd much rather quit my job in London and go and live in rural Switzerland but there's much more money to be made here.

Kek no, moron

>>131575898
that doesn't defeat my argument
like i said in another post
if you compare
1. a farmer in china that can sustain himself
2. a factory worker in china that can sustain himself
the factory worker is much more likely to kill himself out of desperation

>>131571349
Zero fucking citation on that picture also the vast majority of impoverished cities are under dem rule

>>131576161
you've been alive for how long exactly?
only a fool ignores warning signs

>>131573690
Problem is those Mexicans, and blacks come to your area to steal. Southern Cali is a total shitfest, I would rather live in Leaflandia.

>>131572248
>surrounded by crack heads, junkies and niggers in general
lmaoing at you life

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>>131576343
Have fun

>>131576211
that's why they built (you can't make this shit up) suicide nets on the sides of the factories that make apple products (Foxconn) to prevent their employees from jumping off of the top of the buildings

>>131575815
Yeah, the weather is pretty good in some locations in Cali.

It really doesn't bother me if anons on 4chin don't believe that I've been to all 50 states, but anyone who travels a lot of the US like me knows that Cali absolutely does not have the best food in any category.

>>131576481
This is how the typical Canadian lives.

>>131565078
This thread is full of economically illiterate niggers.

Commiefornia has one of the worst purchasing powers in the nation. Its per capita income is high but so are costs of living, and overall it's better to earn less in a cheaper state than to live in commiefornia.

This should be obvious to anyone who lives here. Commiefornia is basically kind of like a third world country, lots of rich people who live in outrageous wealth, but the majority are poor and live in very poor conditions.

https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2016/10/17/median-household-purchasing-power-for-the-50-states-and-dc

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>>131576550
Living in paradise comes at a cost...

>>131576550
REEEEEEEEEEE DELETE THIS
CALIFORNIA IS A WHITE MAN'S PARADISE

>>131576550
I have an idea... just don't be poor if you live in California.

>>131576550
>that flag
>most people in this thread have been saying exactly what you just said
>maybe 3 people live in the US and are actually defending commifornia
>The rest are simply foreigners trolling

>>131576784
Or conversely, don't live in California if you're poor.

>>131572617
Pensions are 1 of the reasons but there are honestly several. IL has a huge welfare burden due to poor minorities as well as being one of the most corrupt states in the union. I think 3 of our 4 senators have gone to prison. Hell, Blagodivich went to jail for trying to sell Obama's seat.

That doesn't even begin to scratch the surface. Everyone is corrupt from the schools to the unions, to the police. The gov sold off city assets to private companies for paltry sums and taxes are always going up.

>>131576684
interesting also that op's list almost represent the states with most undocumented immigrants

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>>131576684
>paradise

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>>131576836
>commiefornia
>world capital of tech, entertainment, trade, aerospace, agriculture, and huge center of finance, business, and manufacturing

>>131576840
or go to Texas and buy a 2 story house in a good neighborhood for half the cost of a 2 bedroom house in commieshitstainfornia

>>131576967
That picture could just as easily be from Paris, New York, or any other nigger-infested metropolis.

>>131572046
>You retards can't even follow a convo chain on a Cambodian carpet weaving forum.

Brought a smile to my day, ty. KEK

>>131577175
Or just be rich enough to afford a two story house in California

>>131573864
>most of the blame for the pension problem lies with **
Not trying to make it sound like unions should have all the blame for this state's problems. I would need to write an essay to go over the many faced monster that is Illinois financial crisis, to be desu.

>>131568110

Great looks like you get the ball rolling on that whole secession thing

>>131576511
Name better sources of Asian food, Indian food, or African food please.

As for BBQ, pubs, or European, CA is not -the- best, but is top 90th percentile

>>131577282
>which for the same amount of money you can buy a literal mansion in texas and many other states
idk how stupid you have to be to consciously decide that you rather pay more for less

>Hollywood has jews
>Hollywood is in Cali
>/pol hates jews

This shouldn't even be a discussion.

>>131576044
>Housing costs
>He's only ever watched reality shows about silicon valley or Hollywood

Try prunedale my man. Perfect weather all year and 4 bed room houses are 350k.

>Illinois fifth GDP
>is a complete shithole

Tell me more

>>131571527
It's the cost of all goods and services added up, so no its not reflective of what the economy produces. As you can have 10 ferraris that cost 1mil each, the 'gdp' of those ferraris is 10million.

>>131568866

>governor of California
>libtard vs. Heavily conservative Texas

Not biased at all.

>>131572244
>the white areas of LA.
there are no more white areas of LA

>>131577223
yeah but it's from San Francisco
nothing like that in Dallas last time i visited (a year ago)

>>131568866

Also, niggers and beaners don't count retard.

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>>131577687
>350k
>he thinks this is a good price

>>131578107
>He lives in a rural ghetto

Not our fault anon, that's the same prices you'll see for -are- areas anywhere in the country. I have family that just bought a 2 bedroom in Tennessee, and ya know what? 325k.

>>131577384
The best Asian food I've ever had was in NYC, second best was right here in Chicago. Indian food was debatable (probably Chicago), and I'm not sure that I've had any Indian food in Cali. I never go out of my way to have African food, so no comment there.

>but is top 90th percentile
Please don't move the goal posts, the top 10% includes a lot.

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>>131568293
You don't believe (((Barbara Lerner Spectre))) when she explains how unbelievably awesome multiculturalism is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ

>>131565078
Keep in mind Texas grew at 0.5% last year and California grew at 3%, so that gaps widening
>>131567662
>Bullshit excuse
It's not Hollywood, it's Silicon Valley

>>131569688

Easy to make your GDP higher when you crank up the minimum wage to 11 dollars so the price of necessities becomes insane even if you do okay for yourself.

>>131574560
No, way dude!
The Southern states are where its at!
No negros or mexicans, amazing coastal weather with no high heat, thriving towns and cities for miles, zero homeless, amazing french and southern cuisine, rich intact history, some of the countries most beautiful specimens to grace this nation, smart and practical non-welfare states. Easily the best, the good ol Heartland. You should definitely all move here!

>>131565078
Faggot state, only state I'm cool with leaving the USA. Make your own country faggots.

>>131578558
>It's not Hollywood, it's Silicon Valley
its actually the port

>>131577687
and like i said i have relatives that live there
their shitty 2 story house with a tiny little yard costs 1mil

>>131572154
>He thinks /pol/ denies being racist

>>131579039
you're a pussy footing faggot and you know it.
Eat shit

>>131565078
>1 post by this ID, 300 replies
God dammit, I now realize that we all just fell for a slide thread

>>131579172
What?

>>131577687
4 bed at tree fiddy k you say? does it also come with 10 acres half wooded and a pole barn?

>>131566463
FPBP
>T. Lifetime resident of Cali
>>131566665
You piece of shit, good ol' Satan was poised to gib get but cha' posted a millisecond early

Blacked porn doesn't count as a domestic product.

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>>131565078
And then add debt to it and California's standing not only goes way down, but the figures look abysmal.

>>131578265
>Asian food on the east coast
>Not the West coast, aka the one all Asians immigrate to because it's the closes to Asia.

I'm sorry if you got bad Asian food but honestly think about what you're saying.

As for top 90th being goal post moving? How does that make sense? I said top tier. I consider being better than 90% of other options offered in a given category as being top tier.

What do you consider top tier? Like is only the very best single restaurant a viable candidate?

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>>131565078
>why are you leftiest keep bringing unrelated infographics to deduct false result from them
>only to be proven wrong every single time?
>what is you point?
>no matter what is your propaganda, Socialism will suck every single time!
Stop wasting your/our time

You forgot the taxes, and the fact there swimming in debt.

>>131579450
Nah I don't think you have more than 1-2 acres in prunedale for that. I honestly am not sure what I'd do with 10 acres. That seems like an odd in-between size? Family owns an orchard that's 280 acres and that's great for commercial production. House has probably 2? And it is great for the kids and dogs. 10 seems just large enough to suck to maintain but not large enough to grow food to make a living?

I personally love the idea of making your own stuff (like growing food in this hypothetical. I currently am practicing cordwainer skills but I'm not very good yet)

>>131580298
I still contend that the best (most memorable) Asian food I've had was at a restaurant in NYC, but I'm not saying that Cali doesn't have great Asian food.

>I said top tier
Alright fair enough, but the first time you mentioned food you said that California has the best local food. When I think of the best local food I've had from any given food category, many places in other states come to mind, but nothing stands out as the BEST from California (from what I've had). Good, but not best (and debatable for top 10% in most categories).

I did have some great Sushi there, as well as good Mexican food in southern Cali.

>>131569869
>a number went up so it must be good
>my number is higher so I must be good.

Almost every dollar of wealth that has been created in the last 10 years has gone to the 1%.

So the 1% get even more obscenely wealthy while everyone else languishes. In what universe is that a sign that things are good?

>but muh GDP
It's not yours

>>131580858
A nice little spot to put up the deer stand, cmon man!
a nice 4 bed(over 2500 sqft) with at least 2 car garage, with pole barn(1800 sqft), and 10 acres would likely go for 350k in my area in the midwest.
Was trying to show that even though that doesn't seem expensive for those of us in the heartland its still expensive for what you get.

>>131565078
MUH GDP
Go pay rottenchild for creating money out of nowhere to get you in debt
possessions > money
you fucking puppet. Go pay taxes have 1 kid at max and pretend to be happy

>>131581168
I've not eaten in NYC but growing up near SF and the Asian I had their killed everything I've eaten in Chicago (my wife is actually from there).

As for absolutely tip top single best places?
>Chinese
Sf
>Korean
Oakland
>Indian
Seattle
>Etheopian
San Jose (CA)
>Mexican
San Diego
>BBQ
Nashville
>Pub
Chicago
>Soul
Atlanta
>Italian
Chicago
>French
Carmel (CA)
>Thai
Seattle
>Cajun
New Orleans (fuckin obvi)

Man am I missing any? Fun to actually reflect on that. Man... I'd kill for any one of those restaurants right now

>>131581907
I guess the numbers are smaller, but again quality of the area. In prunedale that's a white picket fence suburban neighborhood. Privacy plus good neighbors plus easy access to rural areas for camping, fishing, hunting, whatever AND easy access to urban areas for a night out.

>>131565078
>IMAGINE BEING CALIFORNIAN AND HAVING TO PUT UP WITH THE FLYOVER STATES DETERMINING ELECTIONS.

>>131570917
and we don't fix infrastructure here in California either, which "saves" a ton of money.

but our roads are falling apart, dams are dangerously close to bursting, water mains ARE bursting, and we can't even build 1 rail line.

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>>131582546
>dams are dangerously close to bursting
shit, really?
People go on and on about how dangerous nuclear plants are but a dam bursting can be deadlier, literally by orders of magnitude.

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>>131566463
fpbp

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>>131581957

HOW

*daughter get's raped by Muhamet*

BOUT

*get robbed by nigger*

THAT

*chinks raise housing prices 3x*

FOOD

*social cohesion drops like an anvil*

THO

>>131583105

Your government isn't maintaining it's infrastructure anymore. There was already the dam crisis in California and the Atlanta collapsed bridge this year and things are only going to get worse.

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>>131583105
>>131585427

>>131565078
>Being a shithole is determined by money.

>>131565078
>california is insolvent
>thinks a GDP chart means california is not insolvent
>has no idea what I'm talking about

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>>131568110
Guess what color Commiefornia is in these days.

>>131565078
>the most populous state has the biggest GDP
color me surprised
of course it does you fucking dumbass

>>131576481
sorry bud, that's where indjiuns live.

>>131571830
>horrible weather
you're retarded get off /pol/

>>131574560
California is one of the best states to live in. But it's so cucked rn because of all the beaners and libtards

>>131587852
Stay in SF for a year then come back and say this.

Protip, you won't.

It really does have disgusting weather.