Why do liberals hate the institution of hunting so much?

It's primarily practiced by white conservatives.

Anything primarily practiced by that group must be attacked.

>>131540015
when its about trophies, and disregards its purpose of acquiring meat, it's barbaric.

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>>131540015
"muh animal rights" or some such nonsense.

>>131540015

It requires work.

>>131540015
Not everyone likes killing animals. Some of us have consciences and don't like destroying life.

It's done by self reliant white people with firearms

>>131540163
Even in big game hunting in Africa, the meat is sold to locals. The pelt goes to the hunter. There really is no waste to speak of. That all being said, fuck that because extinction and shit.

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>>131540117
I fucking hate fisherman!

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>>131540015
because "muh poor defenseless animals gets shot ;(" while being too stupid to realize it keeps the population down and its what natural predators do in the wold any way

i find only hard core libs are against hunting, but un the socialist EU they would probably give you a week in jail for even thinking about hunting lol

>>131540117
Pretty much this.

>>131540015
Liberal here, ive killed more ducks with my 11-87 than nost of you fags combined

>>131540015
if only...they love it or at least are fine with it.
hunting has nothing to do with ideology - it's simply primitive and subhuman.

Feeding oneself is liberalphobic

>>131540550
Regulated hunting does not lead to extinction. The only argument against big game hunting in Africa is hurt fee fees.

I would assume because it is harder to make money off of people hunting for food instead of buying at the store.

Can't let people bypass taxes ya know
And also it would keep people fit for survival and fighting which is not in the interest of jews trying to influence white people

>>131540163
>I'm afraid of my own humanity

>>131540710
see? it's not liberal vs. conservative.
lots of liberals are scummy enough to be hunters. lots of non-liberals are decent enough to not be.

>>131540793
>bypass taxes
Hunters pay more taxes willingly, atleast in America. The industry itself and its ripples are a huge economic boon.

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Because leftists are nothing more than organized prey

>>131540015
You take a person who grew up in civilization with prepackaged food, where every animal around him is a pet, where he pontificates about the unacceptability of the nastiness of life from his air conditioned studio and his thirty dollar coffees, in a nation bought and protected by violent men who serve an institution he considers vile and unnecessary, and you bring him out to the buggy, smelly, shit infested plains and forests of real life, where you expose him to existence in its ugliest most fundamental truth, as a brutal, uncaring competition liable at any moment to reach an abrupt and agonizing conclusion for the stupidest, most meaningless reasons.
And he recoils.
Why do you think he recoils?

>>131540015

They hate all hierarchies and men living independently

>>131541057
Liberals will claim this isnt not a human being

>>131540015
They hate anything that involves being masculine and independent.

I know liberals who think it's ok to go to the store and buy meat, but if you go kill the animal, skin it, cook it and eat it yourself, they consider that mean and bad. So it's ok if you do it the womanly way where you just go buy something and you don't have to acknowledge that an animal died for you to have that meal.

They also hate it when landowners protect their crops from pests.

Go look at videos on YouTube of wild hogs get smoked after helping themselves to apricots, peaches, cabbage, etc.

There's so many lib fags that say "build a fence", not knowing that hogs are strong enough to destroy fences anyway.

>>131541130
My fellow lead here gets it.

I will say there are a lot of really dumbass hunters who don't know how to hunt ethically though.

>>131541362
build a wall

>>131540015
because they believe hunters would otherwise not eat meat, which is a logical fallacy of course. then again, liberals...

>>131540239
Wow that's fucking cool, compared to how we do it.

We use small"squads" that encircle an area then a squad with the dogs go in and flush them out and lead the boars to one of the other squad.

>>131540015
They can't hunt, and they feel inferior to men who can. It's for the same reason Mtumbo hated Dadedoo in 15,000BC

>>131541481
Too expensive. A few cheap bullets does the trick. Sometimes you can shoot a hog so big that you'll have enough meat to donate to a local mosque near you.

>>131540015

Culling off the older mature males to spur competition in the population

On paper you'd think leftists would appreciate the concept but they're too fearful to trust individuals over the govt

>>131540117
This. Why do you think Trump is hated so much?

Trump's America might be full of gays and non-whites, but implicitly he's pro-white and white people like him. Therefore, he must be destroyed at all costs.

>>131541362
>They also hate it when landowners protect their crops from pests.
Four times my neighbor has called the police on us for hunting coyotes on our property. One time they even had guns drawn on my brother and I. The last time she took her van to the edge of our property and kept honking her horn to scare the coyotes away. DNR cited her with hunter harassment and she had to pay $280.

>>131541659
Ive seen how you euros hunt pigs, flushing them past shooting lanes. Almost like a shooting gallery.
They're pest here, so pretty much anything goes outside of that shithole California.

>>131540239
Degenerate hunting.

Everything in that video is illegal in Sweden, Lazer, using motorized veichle while hunting, the gun is probably not legal for boar hunting either.

>>131540015

They want your guns.

>>131541899

>but implicitly he's pro-white and white people like him

The left promoted an anti white, hyper color conscious society and now they are pissed at us because their agenda is only set back, while whites grow more self interested.

>>131542297
It's pest control.
>illegal in Sweden
That's too bad.

>>131540239

How successful is this? Dont you have trouble with the thick shoulder area?

>>131542297
Those are a pest animal without a predator. If the pop gets too high they start shooting them from helicopters and leaving them to rot.

>>131541745
make mexico pay for it

>>131540015
Because they're snowflakes, remember?

"The Bambi effect" is a term used anecdotally or in editorial media that refers to objections against the killing of charismatic megafauna (animals that are perceived as "cute" or "adorable", such as deer or dolphins), while there may be little or no objection to the suffering of organisms that are perceived as somehow repulsive or less than desirable, such as spiders or an endangered fungus[1] and other woodland creatures.[2]

Referring to a form of purported anthropomorphism,[3] the term is inspired by Walt Disney's animated film Bambi, where an emotional high point is the death of the lead character's mother at the hands of the film's villain, a hunter known only as "Man".- wiki

>>131542126
I would've blown my neighbors head off. I have problems with coyotes too, but luckily my neighbors are cool about it.

>>131542297
Boars are pests in america. They're not helping the environment at all, and deserve to be hunted down.

Besides, it's not like that's particularly painful. They're killed right away.

>>131542297
Well in the US we have a massive wild hog problem so there isn't a bag limit and state governments don't give a shit how you do it. States and landowners just want the animals gone. If those guys were hunting deer they'd be facing some serious legal trouble.

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>>131540015
Lots of "liberals" hunt

the black and white dichotomy you have let fox news paint for you between libs and conservatives does not exist

>>131542629
This might be the same for many other states, but I've heard in Florida you don't need a hunting license for hogs. Just find them and bag them. They are of no help to the ecosystem.

I'm a liberal whose father fed our entire family with venison. I have zero issue with ethically hunting for the purpose of feeding yourself and your family.

These hicks who go sit in a cabin for a weekend so they can get drunk and call it "hunting" are the true degenerates.

>>131540015
Liberals hate anything that promotes independence from the state. Independent food security leads to independent viewpoints.

>>131541364
>I will say there are a lot of really dumbass hunters who don't know how to hunt ethically though.
this is very true

>>131542297
Laser sights are legal. The rifle might only be illegal for boars it's considered too weak.

>>131542760
>Lots of "liberals" hunt
The quote is a sound choice, anon.
I know lots of masculine types that vote left, but I wouldn't call them Liberals.
They're just the kind that don't look to closely at politics and are lead on by the message "Republicans: stupid and bad"

>>131542805

The real problem is they breed fast as fuck and have like 6 at a time. Which is probably why we brought them here great for food.

>>131540015

Because traditional ways of living are considered regressive and barbaric to them, and they prefer the luxuries of modern society

>>131542805
>>131542629
cant we just guide our psychopaths towards the hog problem

if you gotta kill get it out of your system with a hog

>>131540015
they've never been in the woods, never been close to the natural world and its inherent danger/exhilaration, they've never gone without their comforts, and they can't understand the tremendous satisfaction of a proper hunt.

having said that, there are an astonishing number of ignorant hick fuck nuts out there ruining it for the rest. assholes who poach, who kill game for trophy reasons (this kind of prick waving needs to stop), who kill top predators for any reason not related to immediately protecting themselves or their livestock, who have no concept of sport (baiting, barrel hunting, etc.), and who would ever kill an animal and not consume its meat.

most of these bleeding hearts have zero interaction with nature or believe that you should have some kind of weird don't touch rule. conservation requires interaction, unfortunately there are too many destructive retards to fully trust people to warden their land properly. hence the presence of fish and wildlife, hallowed be thy name.

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Jimmy Carter fished but he got mauled by a rabbit so there's that

>>131542805
this is true in a lot of states

some sheriff in Alabama said if he saw someone who was armed let a feral hog walk by without shooting it he would issue him a citation

I got 0 issues with the concept itself but I just don't like modern hunting with technology, it just doesn't make it fair and attracts the wrong type of people.
I'm all for hunting with bows, spears and whatnot, but not guns.

Moreover, if your area is anything like mine, without some limitations the local fauna would've already been sent into extinction.

>>131543208
Give me one good reason that legal hunting is bad. You seem to lump trophy hunting in with poaching and wanton waste. Trophy hunters always use the meat, unless they want the warden to come knocking.
As for top predators, they need their population controlled like any other.

Because it gives lolis orgasms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSFnmM12LOQ

>killing animals for "fun"

Nigger tier behavior

>>131543413
>fair
Why does it have to be? Nature never is.

>>131540015
As collectivists, they hate the idea of people taking responsibility for their own needs instead of begging the government

>>131543366
I wouldn't blame him. feral hogs are a scourge. just like cats and rabbits in the outback.

unchecked invasive species do catastrophic damage to the native species.

Hit a deer in my car once, after breaking like fucking and swerving, still jumped in my way

when hunters tell me how hard it is I just roll my eyes

>>131540015
They think it's mean and sad. And they're hypocrites.

>>131543614
>not plunging balls deep into your kill
Faggot

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>>131540015
We seem to like removing limits on disease infested over-breeding wild animals for some reason.

>>131540015
I don't though. Responsible stewardship like deer population control and shit is perfectly fine.

I think trophy-hunting's kinda stupid though.

>>131540015
Remember that liberals and leftists in general have generally a robust inferiority complex and are controlled by their emotions. They believe humans are bad in general and must be controlled by government. From then on:
1. they fear the gun, because they don't think rationally about it, but emotionally - it is dangerous, therefore bad. Additionally they fear it on basis of being emotion-driven and those emotions can get better of them and they might misuse the gun.
2. their worth is validated by external factors, like feeling good because they help """poor""" Blacks and whatnot. In the hunt your feelings aren't important, but your senses, reflexes and skills. There's no way they can compete with their emotional minds, while additionally they perceive killing anything as bad (probably because they believe that since humans are weak, somebody who kill will kill humans too, not only animals). And finally, it's about effort taken by yourself and about winning - hunters are a symbol of individual success and they hate such symbols, such people, because they challenge their worldview of people capable of success only collectively, not individually.
TL;DR: it's about successful people and work

>>131543625
we should be above nature
big boy you are killing a buck from hundreds of meters with a scope+rifle
at least have the courage to give the animal some actual chance to get away

>>131543665
Yeah the whole quote was something like "If you are on the side of the road changing a tire I don't care where you are, as long as you have a safe backdrop and a firearm in your car (everyone in his county does) and you see a hog you better shoot it or I am going to find something to cite you for"

this was after some guy posted a video of him changing a tire and a bunch of hogs 50 feet away and him covering them with his rifle but not shooting them

>>131543413
>fair
you are missing the point, game meat is the best meat.
I'm just sad we can't hunt venison in my region, just boars and birds.

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>>131540490
>contributing to life
>somehow this is destroying life

>>131542805
>>131543067
>This might be the same for many other states, but I've heard in Florida you don't need a hunting license for hogs.
From my understanding as long as you've taken a hunter safety course you're good to go. Just don't be a complete dumbass and get your buddies shot.

They were introduced by the Spanish during the early days of colonization.The real nasty ones came from escaped domestic hogs that interbred with the original Spanish releases and escaped European wild boars that were introduced into hunting preserves in the early 20th century. This was a time when wildlife management was non existent and we figured nothing bad would happen. Now we understand that releasing nature's garbage can into an enviorment it's not naturally found in is a terrible idea.

They hate all forms of self-sufficiency.
Communists are all about interdependency.

>>131540015
Because you don't need to hunt to surviv (very few people actually need to), you only do it because you like to murder things. It's no different than soon-to-be serial killers torturing animals.

>>131540802
>I'm a fucking caveman look how fucking enlightened I am hurr durr.

I don't have anything against hunting in general. But you should fuck off and die with your naturalistic fallacy.

Kennedy liked to sportfish

Joe Biden hunts quail

>>131542126
>One time they even had guns drawn on my brother and I.
Why didn't you kill her?

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>/pol/ will defend this

>>131540948

fuck off faggot

>>131540015
Not all liberals are vegans, but all vegans are liberals

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>President Lyndon Johnson entertains Senator Estes Kefauver at the LBJ Ranch. There are two dead deer tied to the car behind


So of our last dem presidents I can only not find photos of Clinton and Obama hunting but I can find Obama shooting

Kennedy and Carter fished, Joe Biden still hunts quail, Johnson hunted and managed deer

i think you are just dead wrong OP

>>131544042
Whether a human kills the deer or not doesnt matter, that deer will have died at the hands of a predator regardless. A man shooting it is far more humane than the death it would actually get.

Deer are like the weeds of animals anyway, if we didnt have hunters there are many animals whose populations would go out of control, threatening other species survival in the ecosystem. Humans tend to create really nice easy places to live.

>>131544376
that is honestly bullshit and i have nothing against hunting in general

>>131544326
I meant the police. I should have made that more clear. My neighbor would never own guns.

Where exactly does hunting fit in modern life? Hunting without necessity is pretty degenerate if I must say. Taking the life of another should be done with respect and only done so in time of great need. Billions of animals a year go through factory farms and people still want to hunt but for what reason exactly? If they think it's fun to go out and kill things for no reason they are degenerate. If they do it because it makes them feel manly then that is also degenerate.

Incoming comments about being stranded in a remote place where you must hunt to survive. Yeah because that happens so damn often.

>>131540490

Quotas have to be met for the good of the environment fuccboi

>>131544376
Read "death in the long grass" it will open your eyes

>>131543958
I don't live around fields, I'd be lucky to get 100 yard shot in most areas. That's why people trophy hunt, it's a lot more challenging when you're selective of what you shoot. Public land hunting is hard even with a rifle as well, and a lot of people are stuck with that.
I usually will use my bow to kill a doe in winter if I haven't had a shot at anything else though.

>>131540015
Because they are faggots

>>131540779
Don't even bother only retards are against the big game hunting in Africa. People pay outrageous sums of money to kill one of the older animals that's being an asshole and all that money is put into the conservation. It's all super regulated and pays for better conservation efforts, the biggest issue is poachers. They need to start paying people to shoot poachers.

>>131540015
Like most things people hate for no reason, they know nothing about it.

I'm pretty liberal, well socially anyway, but you can find me running fields with the dogs come cooler weather

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>>131544771
turns out Bill Clinton duck hunts

>>131544848
many states in the midwest have severe deer population problems. hunters keep the populations down a bit

>>131543969
A shame, venison is my favorite. I wish we had elk in my area, elk burger is amazing.
Bird hunting is top tier fun though. Nothing like flushing a grouse or nailing a teal on the fly. My new pups still young enough to spaz out each time too. My other ones about at the end of her hunting days.

>>131544956
You are not a predator. Next to nothing about human anatomy indicates we are. Our insides are geared more toward eating vegetation than flesh. This triggers a lot of people but it is categorically true.

>>131544848
>Where exactly does hunting fit in modern life?
If hunting wasn't a thing in North America the white tail deer population would explode to an unbearable level. You want people to eat better? Get them a tag and a rifle. Venison is about as organic as you can get. Hunters do more good for wildlife conservation than you'd think.

>>131544998
This. King Solomon's Mine is another good one.

>>131543958
You think it's just point and click? Nigger you've never been hunting.

>>131544848
>>131543969

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I know i have seen photos of obama fishing but i can't find one

>>131544042
So, you're a vegan?

>>131545370
Deers have natural predators.

>>131544376
Why wouldn't I? One lion gets shot, meat goes to a tribe, money goes to making more lions.

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yup obama fly fishes and skeet shoots

so clintion, obama, carter, and Johnson, joe biden all hunt or fish

OP

BTFO
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>>131542297
That isn't a clip of hunting, that's a clip of removing an invasive species before they cause any more damage.

>>131545532
>Next to nothing about human anatomy indicates we are.
Except our larger brains and ability to make tools. I can think how that would be advantageous to a predatory animal.

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>>131543448
anon, did you seriously read that post and come up with the idea that I'm not 100% on board team legal hunting?

LEGAL hunting is great. I specifically made a point to indicate that poaching is a problem. Trophy hunting is also a problem because it often leads to poaching. A guy sees a 16 point 250 pound buck out of season and can't let it walk. Dick wavers get hard at the thought of somebody walking into their living room and seeing their Rhino mount, or a Cougar pelt and that should never motivate you to hunt. Predator meat is frequently terrible and I have almost never heard of anyone eating their bear, cougar, wolf, 'yote, bobcat, or go ahead and name a predator species good for eating, which means trophy hunting predators is nearly always wastful.

Top predators never need control, they always self limit. I've seen this retardation too many times, get this straight, when prey populations decrease, predator populations decrease. There is never a need to take a top predator for conservation reasons. Intermediate predators, especially invasive ones like fish/feral cats/dogs, can be a problem since they tend to have very flexible prey populations, but top predators have extremely select prey to support them and are not necessary to control.

You say trophy hunters always use the meat but immediately follow up with unless the warden comes knocking. You know why that warden exists? because too many assholes who only hunted for the trophy were over hunting game.

You kill for fun. I never would.

>>131545722
Name them.

>>131545722

But there aren't enough of them because of habitat loss and overhunting

>>131545858
If our brains were truly as astonishing as you imply then we wouldn't need to partake in archaic and embarrassing practices like hunting and eating other species. Eating meat is such a big problem in todays world that with roughly only half of the population eating meat we are still rapidly deforesting the globe to grow food for livestock.

>>131543958
2 out of 3 hunts I don't kill anything. I mostly go for rabbits that are hard as fuck to track and hit with your rifle, you'd be surprised. Plus you have to move constantly and it's not an armchair sport in the mountains.

Once a year when migratory birds are passing through the mountains we get in an hunting shed and shoot, now that's pretty easy but the drive it's mostly to bond with your friends and BBQ on the spot what you catch.

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>>131543958
I swear people like you are more retarded than those who just say no to hunting in general. If you want the thrill of the hunt go trophy hunting and limit what you are hunting with like normal people do. If you are getting some meat use a rifle and kill humanely. There's nothing fair about hunting and there never will be since wild game can run faster than us and hear and smell better than us, but we have guns and are smarter. Hunting never will be fair and I really don't understand the retarded "well its only fair if you use a bow" mentality since there are a shit load of people who hunt with bows already.

>>131540015
Because killing animals for sport doesn't feel good to them. It doesn't matter if the populations of animals are maintained by laws or whatever, they just don't lime the idea of killing for sport. The logistics of it has nothing to do with it. It just doesn't feel good. It's all about their feelings. Feelings are all the far left cares about.

>>131546527
Not only this but their bow argument is awful. Bow hunting will always result in more pain for the animal.

>>131544848
>fit in modern life
I like the taste of animals.

Hillary shot a duck

"They said, 'We won't shoot. You shoot,' " Clinton told reporters. "They wanted to embarrass me. So, OK, the pressure was on. So I shot, and I shot a banded duck. And I was as surprised as they were."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/hillary-clint-3.html

>>131540117
So many do not realize this is *THE* Core Belief of Liberals.

>>131546149
Wolves for one. They of course are killed too.

>>131546360
t. 120 lb antifa warrior

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>>131540710
>Liberal here

You vote for totalitarian politicians that want to throw you in prison.

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>>131546674
I dunno man some of those new bowheads are pretty savage

>>131546674
not to mention there is not even much harder than using a rifle, modern bows are pretty amazing.
Unless you are arguing about going full medieval style bow then you are even more retarded.

>>131541362
And large fences are expensive AF.

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>>131546360

>>131545284
bill wanted to deport the illegals and put the niggers in jail, he was alright

I would never consider myself a liberal but hunting is just autistic to me, fucking boring and when you actually get to the bones of it it's just kind of disturbing and gross. Sorry I'm not some edgy faggot.

>>131545839
>dem elites
>liberal
You're confusing the two.

Everyone ignores the factual photos of every single Democrat (liberal) president of the last 50 years hunting and fishing and shooting in this thread

/pol/ never had much room for facts

>>131542828
I go sit in a cabin & get drunk from dusk to dawn. Come sunrise I hike a mile into the woods to hunt. You're an idiot.

>>131547231
But you sure are a massive pussy

>>131547231
Have you ever actually shot a gun? It's a lot more fun when you think.

>>131547001
>y-you don't weigh m-much

>>131547478
*fun than

>>131545776
>money goes to making more lions.
because lions come out of vending machines you put money into

not from living lions

>>131546674
kek, yeah I'm sure the deer gives a fuck about how much more fair it was when its got a big ass arrowhead lodged in its body that takes it hours to bleed out and die after it gets away

Cause they're afraid of white men with guns.

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>>131546360
>If our brains were truly as astonishing as you imply then we wouldn't need to partake in archaic and embarrassing practices like hunting and eating other species.
We as a species figured out how to take wood, rocks, and sinew to make bows and arrows. I don't see many other animals running around figuring out how to make complex tools out of the world around them. If you don't think that's amazing you're a pretentious jackass.

>Eating meat is such a big problem in todays world that with roughly only half of the population eating meat we are still rapidly deforesting the globe to grow food for livestock.
I have a solution that may help fix the problem. Go kill a whitetail. That'll law a family a long time.

>>131540015
it would be fine if likewise hunting/killing the hunters themselves was as accepted by the right as the hunting of "game"

>>131540015
Most of them grew up in a city, away from nature and away from the reality of animal life.
Because of that, they romanticise it.
Because they don't have anything better, anything that hurts their romantic view is satan.

>>131542760
>black white dichotomy does not exist
You're naive. Every liberal I know marches in lockstep with whatever message their elected leader/news talking head overlords put out there. Once gun control becomes a common talking point among them again, you'll see just how anti-gun and anti-hunting the majority of your "tolerant" brethren are. The difference is there, it's just simmering right now since gun control is a losing issue for them. I bet you're not old enough to remember the Clinton or early Bush II era

>>131542398
Sorry, but no. The Democratic party is, and has always been, the party of slavers.

It's no accident they all became commie cocksuckers.

>>131545863
Trophy hunting is not a problem at all, it's legal and regulated. Poachers will poach. The warden isn't here because of trophy hunting, I've met a lot more "meat" poachers than I have trophy. They cut out the best parts and leave the rest to rot.
Predators need to be controlled, same as any other animal. Without control the overpopulate and harm other wildlife, nature never "balances" itself. Take moose populations in MN, over 50% of the population died off, 65% of recorded deaths were caused by wolves. Can't wait until that liberal nut judge is overruled and the season opens back up again.
Black bear is also delicious when it isn't eating garbage, usually take one every year.

>>131546997
In like 6 states one of which is Alaska. You really don't have an argument here hunters are needed to cull certain animal populations, large amounts of deers are maybe not as annoying as hogs but can be just as destructive to the ecosystem.

It's really a lot easier than y'all think.

Liberals are prey animals. Of course they hate hunting.

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>>131540015
maybe it's because we have nice things?

>>131547765
How does that make any sense? Are you saying a human life is worth the same as a deer or a bird or something?

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>>131547823
>>black white dichotomy does not exist
>You're naive. Every liberal I know marches in lockstep with whatever message their elected leader/news talking head overlords put out there.

>>131546360
Typical misanthrope preaching veganism because he thinks he's enlightened. We didn't get where we are munching on grass and eating dirt.

>>131546997
here is how it would work here
>animalists reintroduce wolves (gone extinct here)
>wolf starts attacking people
>wolf has to be killed

same shit happened every-time they try to introduce a new species in the habitat, they either completely take over the natural population (like the black bass for example) driving them extinct or create huge problems for humans. they did this with vipers here and for a couple of years there were literally people dying poisoned.

I swear there is an immigration reference here somewhere.

They want the populace to be dependent on the state

Because they are children who are not ready to deal with the reality of death, so they would rather not see the necessary suffering involved in nature

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>>131548025
>Because they are children who are not ready to deal with the reality of death, so they would rather not see the necessary suffering involved in nature

>>131546455
Hunting in the mountains is brutal if you aren't in great shape. I remember my first elk hunt I was in what I thought was great shape because of football practice, self exercise, and work. The first three days were me wondering why the fuck I thought it'd be enjoyable to crawl up a mountain.

>>131540239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF23oCOfGQ0

>>131546360
This guy knows what's up. Taking away the life of another sentient being who has done absolutely nothing against you is cruel. And because we can survive just as well without doing it, not only is it cruel, but it's also stupid when you consider unhealthy it is.

And before any of you mention something about population control, let me just say that 1. We wouldn't need population control if local governments didn't deliberately do things to increase hunted animal populations while killing off natural predator species, and 2. Humans need more population control than any other species, so it's a bit hypocritical to suggest that they are the problem.

>>131543958
>we should be above nature

Prove it. Cut your dick off. Let's see how superior you are to nature.

>>131547143
It's still not easy, only those who have never hunted think that. 9/10 times an inexperienced hunter will get busted trying to move his bow into position.

>>131546674
Let alone how its really not that hard with a modern bow. They aren't saying to use an old composite bow or anything like that since they know nothing about guns or bows or hunting at all. It's amazing how much of an opinion people who have no knowledge on the subject will give you.

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>>131548321
>sentient being

so ur vegan?

>>131547231
>boring
Upland/duck hunting.
>disturbing and gross
Sure hope you don't eat meat.

>>131548479
>It's amazing how much of an opinion people who have no knowledge on the subject will give you.
gun_control_laws.jpg

>>131547665
How will killing a whitetail going to supply a family fiber, folate, vitamin a, vitamin c, vitamin d, vitamin e, vitamin k, calcium, manganese, potassium, omega 3 and calories? If you mean make your family malnourished and give them colon cancer OK I agree.

>>131546997
Yeah, no there are not wolves in the midwest. Not even in fucking Colorado.

>>131540163
Don't be a faggot, most game species are overpopulated

>>131548025
There's actually very little suffering in nature compared to human constructions like factory farms.

And since when has "nature" been an excuse for anything? Humans have spent the last few thousand years doing everything we can to tell nature to fuck off and leave us alone while we search for immortality, freedom from pain, and the ability to coerce nature into doing whatever the hell we want.

>>131545839
>What are photo opportunities
And Obama was ripped to shreds for that skeet shooting pic

>>131548777
>And Obama was ripped to shreds for that skeet shooting pic
nah

>>131540163

Sooo barbaric, you know we all die painful deaths right? Nobody is spared.

>>131548321
>sentient being
So we can start eating people from mental hospitals?
got it, thanks

>>131548777
>>What are photo opportunities
w-why would vegan pussy liberal have their photos taken with animals they just killed in order to encourage people not to hunt?

>>131548550
Or Buddhist, which is where the term originated.

But yeah I'm vegan. Because when you get past habit and tradition, there's really no good reason for us to be such jackasses to other animals.

>>131548321
So what you are saying is that we should get hunting permits to go kill Africans and Indians that are over populating the world?

>>131548321
well kill off natural predators like wolves in most populated states to protect humans

overpopulation of prey is a result of this

u wnt wlvz in ur yrd?

>>131548902
As someone who is in medical school right now I'd much rather be shot in the lungs than die of kidney failure or most autoimmune diseases

>>131549087
>But yeah I'm vegan. Because when you get past habit and tradition, there's really no good reason for us to be such jackasses to other animals.
yes there is, it's called complete protein

>>131540015
Speaking from experience as someone who has been brainwashed by the (((media))) into becoming vegetarian
and later being redpilled I can say that they are saying it's unnatural or some shit like that inmo it's just some hippy shit and is only a side effect of being raised by a single mother (as most of liberals are that's why they become fags , as they lack a father figure that spanks them)

>>131549087
I bet I can snap you in two.

>>131549087
I'm actually OK with this, at least you put your money where your mouth is.

Fags who demand hunting be banned while still eating factory farmed beef need to be killed for their hypocrisy.

>>131548321
>when you consider unhealthy it is.
you are literally cucked to the maximum
>muh pesticide ridden vegetables are healthy as fuck everyone should eat those
>don't eat that wild animal it's totally unhealthy it will give you cancer.

>>131548592
>How will killing a whitetail going to supply a family fiber, folate, vitamin a, vitamin c, vitamin d, vitamin e, vitamin k, calcium, manganese, potassium, omega 3 and calories?
Are you implying I was saying they can only eat the deer? That they can't supplement their diet with plants and other things they could readily get? If you are than you really are a pretentious jackass.

But here is the nutritional value found in one 3 ounce serving of venison.
http://www.clarkphilippines.com/which-nutrients-are-found-in-venison/

>>131540015
I have invited over a liberal for a fish fry they were excited to eat and have a good time. When I told them I had caught the fish myself and was in the process of cleaning them, they grimmaced and were no longer interested haha. I have no words its just funny to me at this point.

>>131549236
>I'm actually OK with this, at least you put your money where your mouth is.
>Fags who demand hunting be banned while still eating factory farmed beef need to be killed for their hypocrisy.

sort of agree

nature exists to serve men

>>131549324
Where the fuck do they think fish at the store comes from then?

>>131548969
>photo opportunities are designed to make you look good to people who already support you
There's no way you're this dumb.
The point is to make them look good to people who typically don't support them. They're appealing to the people who DONT identify with them.
There's no way you're this dumb. But then again you just posts 20+posts of democrat propaganda because you actually believe it yourself, so then again maybe you are.

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>>131548601
http://kdvr.com/2016/07/18/you-may-start-seeing-gray-wolves-in-colorado/
That's where you're wrong kiddo

>>131549111
No, but it would be less hypocritical.

>>131549477
To be fair I know people who won't eat wild animals because they fear parasites which can be a concern

>>131540015
They don't understand the necessity of hunting. They have an idea of a utopia where deer and wolves all coexist peacefully and they won't overpopulate or go extinct without human interaction everything will be just perfect... until a deer rams itself into the windshield of their econobox for the fifth time

>>131549433
This

>>131540015
Oversocialization. Domesticated so much they no longer resemble their origins.

>>131548005
You say misanthrope like that's an insult. Only a person living in a bubble and ignoring reality could take a long look around them and think mostly positive things about human beings and existence in general. There isn't a minute ticks by without another disgusting and callous event happening somewhere in the world. I do not consider myself enlightened because I'm vegan. In fact my actions mean very little in the grand scheme of things and my life will almost certainly amount to nothing. Yours too.

>>131549433
And vice versa.

>>131548321
>without doing it
Do you know how many sentient beings farming kills? And where is the line drawn? Where you, The enlightened one, draws it?

>>131549181
>BEANS AND RICE

>>131548881
Yah
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2013/02/04/what-president-obamas-skeet-shooting-photo-tells-us/?utm_term=.fac0115b743b

>>131549615
Fair enough.

>>131549574
They all hunt as a hobby anon, sorry if that makes you mad.

Obama would practice fly fishing wherever he could, it was not a sham. Joe Biden still kills quail to this day, it's a hobby

I would much rather hunt my own meat then get it from big slaughter houses. Or buy local from small private butchers, where the animals don't have to travel so far.

>>131549616
>They have an idea of a utopia where deer and wolves all coexist peacefully and they won't overpopulate or go extinct without human interaction everything will be just perfect..
no offence but I don't see why deer would go extinct if we didn't shoot them

>>131540015
Why you need buntong while there is full markets with food? Just to please ego?

>>131549680
>>BEANS AND RICE
NOT COMPLETE PROTEIN

>>131548017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa5OBhXz-Q

>>131548601
>no wolves in the Midwest
MN.

>>131549641
Why do all vegans i meet/speak online wants to kill themselves or other humans?
it really makes you think.

>>131549842
This, people who are horrified by hunting should be equally as horrified by people eating at McDonalds. They almost always aren't however, because they're hypocrites who are only concerned with virtue signaling.

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>>131542297
Are the hogs this big in Sweden?

>>131547953
Underrated post.

>>131549313
>assuming I don't grow my own food

I grow some of it. That doesn't just apply to vegans though. If you eat farmed animals you're also getting a big serving of pesticides, artificial hormones, and all that good stuff.

The difference here is more between big agriculture and local, permaculture style farming.

>>131549870
'hunting

>>131549734
>Fair enough.
If you eat enough ocean fish you will eventually get parasites and maybe mercury poisoning

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cause they couldnt do it.

they would be stuck gathering like limp wrist-ed girls they are.

>>131549477
It's grown there, right?

>>131549656

"no"

even the preservation of nature is bending nature to men's will, because we need it to a certain to survive or even because we just find some aspects of it to be pleasing

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>4 killstreak

counter UAV ready

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>>131544848
My pupper will eat better than you when it hits the fan

>>131549923
if they like animal so much why aren't we vivisecting them instead?
animals get to be left alone and we get to research, everybody wins

>>131549923
Probably some kind of deficiency.

>>131547525
No, when you actually have the ability to manifest thought (keyword: when) hunting is a lot more fun. It's not very fun when you aren't capable of dwelling in an enclave of your own solitary thoughts.

>>131550115
fucking hogs man

i heard in some states they are thinking of issuing tax stamps for new full autos to hunt hugs

>>131549752
Their disingenuity and hypocrisy doesnt upset me one bit.
Your naivety is far more dangerous.

>>131549586
They do come down from Wyoming from time to time so it is in the realm of possibility that they will come back, which I will gladly accept. But it still does not excuse the ignorance of thinking that they are in the FUCKING MIDWEST.

>>131549641
>In fact my actions mean very little in the grand scheme of things and my life will almost certainly amount to nothing. Yours too.
Then why do your panties get in a knot about what people eat? According to you it means very little if I go out and kill and animal in the grand scheme of things. Why care if you think it is a destructive practice? Is it because you're head is so far up your own ass?

>>131547529
Oh shit! He killed the last, living lion?!

>>131549923
Nothing I said implied I am suicidal or want to harm other people. Hope this makes u think.

>>131549641
How can you not look at humans and be astounded how far we've come? You have a very negative outlook, and may want to seek help.

>>131549893
https://www.forksoverknives.com/the-myth-of-complementary-protein/#gs.c9I92u8

>>131549893
Actually beans and rice do form complete protein. Matter of fact some beans are complete protein by themselves.

>>131550092
Preserving nature means preserving ourselves. Yes I agree that we must bend it but we also destroy nature.

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/06/live_asian_carp_caught_9_miles.html

>"Killing is bad-wrong!"
>Entire existence is predicated on the mass slaughter and suffering of other living things, and western society is the most wasteful, brutal, horrific creation nature has ever birthed
>The horrors we inflict upon the world are unimaginable, with billions of living creatures born to disease and suffering, living solely to be slaughtered for us to consume
>Even our vegetables and fruit and grains are reliant upon the mass suffering of living things
>To live, at all, in the modern world is to induce suffering the likes of which your brain cannot even comprehend

>But shooting deer sometimes is really bad because deer are pretty and I liked Bambi

>>131540015
Because liberals in a war are prey, so it reminds them of how pathetic they are. Plus, hunting breeds hunters, which scare the libericucks

>>131548017
Same happened here in my Northern state. Wolve population wasn't extinct but it had a resurgence in population over the last 10 years. Now there are too many wolves and they need to be hunted.

>>131550415
>https://www.forksoverknives.com/the-myth-of-complementary-protein/#gs.c9I92u8

shit literally lowers your IQ bro

https://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/99legacy/6-14-1999a.html

>>131549897
>the one time they did it right
that's good and all in natural parks or in the US but we don't have that kind of space in Italy.

>>131550581
sweet whataboutism

>>131540239
What kind of bullshit is that? Real hunters climb a fucking tree and wait for a boar to show up. You can use bait too (there's a specific name for it which I can't tell in english) but for me that's easy mode. You track the boar, find a good spot, wait, you take your shot. No bullshit. Just you, your rifle and your wits.

>>131549923
The more you know about how we are ruining the world around us, the less rosy your view of humanity is. I don't want to kill anyone though. I think humans have a lot of potential if we can survive a while longer. We're just at that awkward stage where we're smart enough to ruin everything, and dumb enough that we might actually do it.

>>131550332
Having seen a wolf in Colorado I figured I would add my two cents. Minnesota, Michigan and Wisconsin all have verified populations as well.

>>131549918
WI too. That guys an idiot.

>>131550329
>>>131549752 (You)
>Their disingenuity and hypocrisy doesnt upset me one bit.
>Your naivety is far more dangerous.

Why don't liberals hunt?

Here is a bunch of liberals and every dem potus for half a century hunting:

it's called refutation by example-

THAT DOES NOT COUNT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>131550543

yes, but exploring nature beyond it's threshold is not serving men, but committing suicide

>>131548601
We have them in the UP.

>>131540015

the movie Bambi made them cry once

>>131550709
All living humans are monsters. Refusing to eat meat doesn't make you ethically superior, it makes you a moralising monster instead of just a regular one. Your very participation in society is far worse than any suffering you can cause by eating meat. Your clothes are built on the slave labour of starving children, your technology is a degenerate escape also built on the backs of starving children. To even dare pretend you have a moral high ground just because you don't personally kill animals while also being a degenerate modern man is hideous and immoral in and of itself.

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>>131542297

We already know pest control is illegal in Sweden.

>>131550714
bet you can't take out 5 at a time like that though

>>131542180
California doesn't have as much of a wild pig problem as some areas due to mountain lions and bobcats eating them pretty frequently, but the mountain lions are becoming rarer, so the pig populations are going up.

In addition, a pig tag is like $25, while bobcats are $3 for a book of five.
It's pretty sad.

We're going to end up killing all the bobcats, and they're the best population control for young hogs.

>>131541057
ORE WA NINGEN DA!

>>131550581
>western society is wasteful
We use our resources more efficiently than ever. People themselves being wasteful is another matter. That comes from a plentiful bounty.

>>131550335
The significance of an action isn't the determining factor in whether you should do it or not.

Because they love the checks they receive from their (((factory farming executives))) of the (((food industry))).

>>131551016
>In addition, a pig tag is like $25, while bobcats are $3 for a book of five.
that's stupid

>>131550696
Or, alternatively, the invention of cooking which allowed to get a fuck-ton more nutrients from grains and basically everything else AND coincidentally allowed us to eat meat at the same time.

Our brains run on sugar, not fats or proteins, so acting as if meat, which has very little sugar compared to grains, was the catalyst for our increased intelligence is disingenuous. Though meat-eating may have allowed us to roam further north.

>>131550905
Shit really? When's the last sighting?

>>131550714
It's feral hog eradication. I agree with your statement, I sit in a tree stand. Then again, I'm in the north and we don't have a boar problem.

>>131550995
I want to laugh, but at the same time I feel bad for the few Swedes that actual have a brain in their heads.

>>131550402
>You have a very negative outlook

Statistically there is an abandoned baby in a dumpster dying right now as I reply to your post. Maybe a minute from now a child is being molested. The world is a fucked up place you just tune it out.

>>131542180
Funny thing. I live in San Jose, and I STILL have to deal with fucking hogs on my goddamn lawn. They've knocked over trashcans, ate our trash, shat on our lawn, and all that other shit hogs do. Worst part is that I own guns, but cucked laws prevent me from blowing their hog brains across the pavement.

>>131551193
>Our brains run on sugar, not fats or proteins,
what is ketosis

>>131551405
So why is killing a deer so horrible if worse things are happening?

It's a bit counter-intuitive, but if nature was some kind of sententious being, it would WANT us to push it's boundaries, because that way it could get rid of humanity through self-regulating mechanisms.

>>131551565
What happens when you're starving to death, which need never happen.

>>131551754

"a smart parasite doesn't kill it's host"

>>131541745
Just bury it in the gounds and spatter the blood on the walls then they cant remove it or scrub it off

>>131544376
True survival of the fittest

>>131551615
Things are not good or bad relative to other things. Both can be horrible at the same time.

>>131551819
>What happens when you're starving to death, which need never happen.
back in evolutionary times we probably ran in ketosis for much of the year and eating animal protein kept us sharp mentally

>>131545863
>bear
>not delicious

You need to find better bear.
Bears that eat fruit, nuts, honey, fish and roots are fantastic. Especially if they have some nice fat on them.

Just make sure you got a tag for it before you shoot it, and it's ok to hunt them.

Predators need culling occasionally too.

>>131551405
And? Bad things have always happened, they happen less than in nature. Intelligence comes with a price, we will never be without evil.

>>131552050
>True survival of the fittest
MORE LIKE SURVIVIAL OF TEH FATTESST

AMIRTE

>>131544376

payback

fuckers mauled us for thousands of years

>>131552226
Eat bear liver you cunt.

>>131550509
Do those complete protein beans taste like a medium rare strip steak or do they taste like beans?

>>131543676
Hunters don't hunt with cars dipshit.
Shooting a particular object in an open area with a rifle from a distance is harder than mowing down an animal that you catch off guard. Remember Nice France?

>>131550696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZEZYu_7zR4

>>131540015
>murder defenseless herbivore that doesn't even know you're there with a high powered rifle after and before you stuff your face with factory farmed mcdonalds burgers
>hehe I'm a real man unlike those liberals hehe

>>131552169
Or grains, which we likely began eating at about the same time, and supply plentiful calories and sugars, requiring much less work than hunting to produce for the same amount of calories.

But even if meat was important at one point, as in my example about venturing further north where our preferred plant-foods couldn't be found, it's still not a good reason for eating meat nowadays.

>>131542297
you dumb fuck. those are invasive here and DESTROY native habitats. why are you such a dumb cucked swede? i shouldn't be suprised.

They are too spineless to skin and clean their own food so anything that reminds them of that sets them off

Because they're all fucking cowards, blood and guts will make them faint.

>>131547765
as long as it's legal to kill vegans and animalist faggots as well, I'm game (pun not intended)

>>131540163
Shoo shoo flagjew

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>>131552665
Thanks for proving my point, shitbag.

>>131540490
You fucks seem to be just fine with destroying ours though, so you're lying

>>131552765
We are invasive and destroy native habitats also. Should we kill ourselves? The justification is the same...

>>131552665
gr8 b8 but as humans, we are the apex predator, we get to choose how and when we take an animal. it's our right as the apex predator of this planet. there are regulations to make sure these animals have populations and rules to protect them for future generations.

>>131547868
You are objectively wrong. Nature always balances itself out. You might not like the equilibrium but it will arise.
The moose population in MN grew to absurd levels because all the wolves were hunted out. When the wolves came back they found a virtually limitless prey population and set to doing what wolves do, control the population. Of course reintroducing wolves will cause the number of moose deaths by wolves to rise, that's the point. Now just watch, the wolf population will rise exponentially with such a large reserviour. Once the moose population dives to a certain level the wolf population will stop increasing until it hits the point where they equilibrate. But the wolf population will not increase past the point where it is sustainable, any such increase will be temporary and the excess wolves will move to other less competitive hunting grounds or starve.

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my shed last fall. Is this good triggering material?

>>131553138
>Should we kill ourselves?
Sure, you go first.

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>>131550714
Real hunters kill when they can when they have to, with what tools are available.

Sport hunters can do whatever the fuck they feel like. Go sit in a tree if that makes you feel good. Eradication of pest species needn't be done in a sporting fashion.

>>131552665
You're going to spend your entire life looking at a dirty grey sky.

>>131553145
I doubt the other animals acknowledge your right to kill them, much like you wouldn't acknowledge the right of some guy who broke into your home to kill you, just because he says he's an "apex predator".

>>131552735
>But even if meat was important at one point, as in my example about venturing further north where our preferred plant-foods couldn't be found, it's still not a good reason for eating meat nowadays.
meat eaters have higher iqs and live longer with less health problems and are physically stronger than vegans

look it up

>>131553297
I'm not the one saying that's a good enough reason to kill someone who wants to live. There are other solutions.

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>>131552665

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I shot this one in the throat. It flipped around like a fish for a minute or two.

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>>131553276


are those bobcats?

>>131552626
So you're moving the goal posts now that you understand the complete protein argument is a myth. Only flesh is going to taste like flesh. However if you admit that steak can be cooked poorly then so can any other foods you prepare.

>>131553276
Why kill the bobcats?

>>131553138
broken logic is broken. i suppose you like the fact that eastern bullfrogs have made it over the rockies and now destroy habitats all over the west coast. they displace the native redlegged frogs here in oregon, they lay 20,000 eggs a season compared to the redlegged frogs 5,000. they eat baby birds, snakes, frogs, salamanders, lizards, insects, ANYTHING they can fit in their mouths, even each other. this is like the wild boars, which wreck habitats for native animals and displace them. should we just let the bullfrogs and boars destroy all of our native habitats and ruin the ecosystem (even more)? are you a dumb fuck? good job proving OP's point faggot.

>>131553276
Nah. Bobcats are little assholes.

>>131540015
Because liberals want other people to do their killing for them, or the are Vegans.

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>>131540239
YEAH
>>131542297
>>131550714
Faggots theres a massive hog overpopulation over hear. We should be using bulldozers

>>131553459
>dat SMLE
hiw much is .303 British over there?

>>131553459

I thought these were endangered

>>131553422
It's funny because the exact opposite is true. Vegans have higher testosterone and live much longer.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/526S.long
https://nutritionfacts.org/2013/02/12/less-cancer-in-vegan-men-despite-more-testosterone/
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/iq-of-vegetarian-children-2/

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>>131553585
They go after chickens and such.

>>131553647
Yeah its funny how in most places where the bullfrog is native it is in decline. Some one should do a kick starter to pay some hippies to collect all the bullfrogs from there and ship them back east.

>>131540015

Because they cried at Bambi when they were children and they never grew up since then. I wished that electricity would go out for a year. Those retards will starve to death.

>>131553581
I'm not moving any goalposts. I'm implying that beans taste like shit and steak is delicious.

>>131553836
Yeah but they kill pests to I think the only time you should be aloud to kill bob cats or coyotes ect is if you seem then lurking around your live stock.

>>131540163
>Quickly killing an animal is barbaric
>But letting them slowly die of disease, starvation, or be eaten alive by predators is fine.

Autistic fuck.

>>131553796
>I thought these were endangered
Come on Ancap haven't you ever been taught the 3 S? Shoot, shovel, shut up.

>>131553813
That depends on what they eat just like meat eaters. Soy vegans have less testosterone.

>>131553354
animals cannot acknowledge that right. they only try to survive, same with the wolf, same with the mountain lion, who both take what they need to survive. are we to turn to factory farming only? you realize that legal hunting, following the regulations of our country (which change to match the populations of the animals, so they are sustainable) is far less destructive to our environment than getting your mcchickies at your fast food joint? without hunting, the deer populations would grow so large, it would collapse on itself (since the wolfs are gone, but they're coming back now, because of REGULATIONS). you're a dumb faggot who doesn't know what he's talking about.

>>131553836
spend well pupper

>>131552665
You faggots love the environment so much yet want the hogs to keep destroying it. Not everyone lives 5 minutes from a McDonalds like you faggot Liberals

>>131553813
>Vegans have higher testosterone and live much longer.

doubt it

>>131554193
They are not endangered but you are a fucking goof, and I am a hunter and fisherman that has worked in the forestry and conservation industry's.

>>131553947
i go to the wetlands here at night and see HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of eyes reflecting back at me from the darkness. it's a massive problem. they're everywhere. pls send your best rednecks to solve this problem because our state doesn't give a fuck.

>>131554127
I'm not saying go out and slaughter them all just in case they one day would look at your chickens funny, but if they are caught skulking around your barn then I have no problem with them being shot

>>131554241
THIS!

>>131551110
>The significance of an action isn't the determining factor in whether you should do it or not.
That still doesn't explain why you are ass mad about the practice of hunting, or eating meat in general. No matter what actions you take in life it is ultimately meaningless. But I'll bite anyway.

What is the determining factor in whether we should do something or not. Is it morally or ethically right or wrong? Is it a necessity for that action to take place? I would argue it is a mixture of both. You obviously believe it is morally wrong to inflict suffering upon an animal and that it is a pointless action that doesn't have to happen. But that suffering provides people with the substance they need to survive. You may say it is still not needed, but it is a fact that veganism doesn't give you the ammount of nutrients you need for healthy diet. You cannot get everything you need from plants. Animal proteins and fats are something we evolved with and something our bodies still require. That is a scientific fact. Unless you can provide option that everyone can access to those nutrients in a way that doesn't harm an animal it isn't practical. Sure, its nicer to the planet and animals if we stop eating meat as a collective. But we have so many domesticated animals that would die if were to stop caring for them. What is the point of caring for them if they do not provide us with anything in return? Altruism? That is a waste of resources and time that could be spent doing other thing. Life is suffering, and embracing that suffering is how we get through it.

Here is the difference between you and I. I know the world is a fucked up place, I'm just not a whiney bitch about it and embrace the suck.

>>131553813
>http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/526S.long
Design: We reviewed data from 6 prospective cohort studies and report new findings on the life expectancy of long-term vegetarians from the Adventist Health Study.


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>>131554193

I thought the globalists would spend a ton of money of forest police to "protect" them

>>131552665
ahahahahh only a brit would think deer are defense less ahhahahah.