Is getting married and having kids the only way to be happy?

getting yourself into a position of power so that you can raise a lineage/empire is the only way to be happy.

popping out a child for no reason other than "lol this is what people do right" is the equivalence of eating pencils

you couldn't be further from the truth

>>131539033
This

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>>131538887
>Is getting married and having kids the only way to be happy?

You only want what you can't have.

>>131539033
Fpbp.

Family without power is dangerous because it can often be a burden and prevent power aquisition

But, having power with no family is as bad as having a family of worthless degenerates.

Having a family with no power at least gives your lineage a chance at redemption.

>>131538887
1. Figure out your purpose in life (whether it's 'self-created' or 'discovered')

2. Live out that purpose

This is the formula for happiness.

>>131538887
Marriage leads to longer life expectancy, higher wages (for men), and higher end-career retirement position. It also reduces male risk of depression, suicide and accidental death.

The shallowest (((Google))) search will confirm https://archive.is/eWb0L

>>131538887
Ask people in the 3rd world who have lots of kids and start families very early, are they happy.

>>131538887
If feeling dead inside makes you happy

>>131540066
> Men who are forced to work overtime to afford a family have higher wages
Wow, it's almost like grinding for shekels your whole life will make you marginally more wealthy

>>131538887
No.

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>>131538887
LOL

Being a fuckin man … is the only way to be happy no matter what you decide.
Happiness and fulfillment can be two different things. Having kids can make you stressed out beyond belief, but knowing you raised good kids can be very fulfilling.
Finding happiness is laudable, but duty honour and self respect, lead to fulfillment.
We've been (((taught))) to chase pleasures and neglect true responsibility in this generation.
What would you rather be a happy idiot? Or an admirable respectable human being?

>>131538887
Anybody can share an account for the authoring program?

I'm short on money right now because I'm literally saving my father (economically).

>>131538887
>the only way to be happy?
no. But it is tried-and-true. Peterson says "don't deviate from what your ancestors did unless you have a damn good reason."

>>131540486
This is true. White male privilege doesn't exist for singles after 40. If you care about your career, marry a homely nice girl who is grateful to get to be a mother.

>>131540472
sounds like "Cuckold Confessions" to me.
Im surprised dudes these days don't know how to handle their women..
Bro's they're simple creatures, and not really all that hard to "figure out".

>>131541080
>truth from a leaf
Nu/pol/ is a fucking travesty.

>>131540472
this man must be really, really dense and devoid of any masculinity

>>131538887

I'd say yes. Traditional relationships generally is the best way to go about things. Short term? Maybe different things. Long term, yes. No kids, no future. What will you do then?

With that said, feminism etc have corrupted our society to such a large degree... it should still be possible but, don't marry too easily. Especially now with how laws are in the west. In the grand scheme of things, good goal though. Women can be converted back to traditionalism and some will realize this on their own. In fact more and more are doing just that... but with fucked up laws and court you may be screwed by opportunism. Dangle a large enough carrot and even a loyal horse may run a different direction. But I'd say it's the best goal these days, sure. At least in terms of you, yourself and your future. There's of course other things or things you can do alongside a traditional relationship you can do to be happy or feel safer. Helping build up society and so on. Make your life valuable and so on. Feel appreciated and upstanding.

¨only way¨ probably not. a broken person may not find joy in it, or find joy in anything. But it's the tried and true way so to speak. high % chance of happyness in the longterm whether a man or woman. Just don't be a fool. be a strong man with strong principles. A guiding hand. otherwise, you'll get used and will instead become... well, what the MRAS warn you'll become. That is if you're weak mentally though. Will or intelligence or both.

>>131540472
obviously larping

that said it's true for some people be careful

>>131539033
>>131539228
>>131539663
If you truly believe this then atleast you losers will never be happy.

OT:
Only way to be happy is to be at peace, by doing what is right and working hard. Often a family falls into this.

Why do you think the point of life is to be happy? Who are you that you deserve eternal happiness?

>>131542623

Two sane swedes in a single thread that isn't about saving sweden from itself and (((them)). Glad to see it. Maybe we'll get a third.

>>131542775
Well change it to "peaceful" or "content" then

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>>131538887
For normal people, yes. If you're a genius family is a burdensome drudgery distracts you from your work and is pointless anyway b/c regression to the mean --> your kids will be a lot dumber than you anyway, even if wife is smart.

Basically, if you don't have kids, you better make damn good use of your time and contribute to the Aryan people in some big way. Pic related

>>131543103
einstein had kids though

>>131538887
leaving a legacy is the only way to die with piece of mind

>>131543103
Wow I shoulda proofread that second sentence.
>If you're a genius, family is a burdensome drudgery that distracts from your work and is pointless anyway because of regression to the mean.
Fixed.

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>>131541080
>>131541978
>>131542428
>f-f-fake news, russia hacked his marriages

Giving vacuum energy to the world would make more happy than the best family and children in the world could.
So thats a no.

>>131540066
>higher wages
and way higher expenses

>>131543341
He was lucky enough to be a professional intellectual. He could do physics 9-5 and then go home to his family like your average Joe. Good luck finding work as a prof today if you're redpilled. You have to either work AND study/write or win the lottery.

>>131538887
No, but it's the most reliable way to lead a life which feels meaningful.

>>131543405
>women are more picky
Or
>attractive men don't use OkC

>>131543764
>current prof
>make $60/hr talking about gender in literature
>spend income from liberal university on promoting white agenda
Feelsgoodman

Spend 5 minutes in public observing parents with their children. Then ask yourself would you want this to be you every hour of the day when you're not selling yourself to mr. shekelstein. The answer is probably no. Ignore your biological impulses and you will lead a life of happiness with tons of money and free time.

>>131544141
You probably just don't like Muzzie kids, Anon.

>>131542623
How is what I said different than what you said?

>>131538887
the only way to be happy is finding what you love and let it kill you.

>>131542953
Statistics show that marriage is tied to an even happiness level. Single people are more likely to be either more miserable or more satisfied.
>so do you like rollercoasters, Anon?

>>131538887
>getting married
>having kids
>being happy
Pick two.

>>131543601
Temporarily higher expenses. Ideally, raise a child early in life and have your 40s and 50s (highest earning years) with no child expenses whatsoever.

Having children in your 30s/40s is idiotic unless you consider it an expensive hobby.

getting married and having kids turns man into a slave.
I'd much rather pay a corporation a monthly fee to create and raise children for me.

Yes,
Im 35 and regret no kids and no wife.
All the girls i date now are divorced and have kids. Only the fatties never married.

>>131544741
True to a point. Statistically, having 1-2 kids makes couples most miserable. But 4+ kids generally have a happier and more active sex life than couples with no children.

>>131545005
>slave
If you're a cuck. Real men make marriage work FOR them.

>>131545020
>All the good women are married by 25.
>Men don't generally make enough for a family by 25
>divorce rates are lowest in marriages with small age discrepancies
Equals
>marry before you are ready to procreate in order to secure quality partner and bust ass to not fuck it up.

>>131544741
>having kids
&
>being happy

I guess marrying so as to procreate (and follow the social norm) and then divorcing to lead a happy, sexually active life with other partners is the only true way.

>>131545020
Also the career oriented and the mentally unstable. Although you could also date younger. Anyway, it's far from too late. Don't lose hope. Now get on to making those beautiful white babies!

>>131545578
Divorce is literally a Jewish meme

>>131545829
There needs to be a /pol/ dating site. The number of sad Femanons I've seen here over the years is criminal.

For women yeah

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>>131541080
>Im surprised dudes these days don't know how to handle their women..
Yeah, we all can't be pussy tamers like you brah

you know... marrying a woman with kids has benefits.
1. you can choose a woman with healthy smart kids - no retards, none with expensive medical problems, etc
2. all the costs associated with birth and all that are already taken care of. You don't have to pay a cent for that.
3. if the kids are not babies, that's also a win, that means no baby crying or being a pain. no diapers, etc.
4. What I'm saying is that the ex-husband is the cuck because he went through all of the above, paid all that money for the births and dealt with young kids and babies, but then she leaves him and I can come along and get the benefits a family bring without paying a cent. It's a good deal. Think about it.

>>131546077
>make yourself someone you like
>look for women who frequent places you respect
>be as polite as you would be to your mother
>let women come to you

Become your own gatekeeper. It's not that fucking complicated.

>>131546551
>>make yourself someone you like
i am a guy why would i like guys

>>131546288
Except your genetics die with you.
But otherwise, you make a good point except that once you get married, stepDad's income is considered when determining child support payments. Generally, women who remarry lose this altogether.

>>131539033
>getting yourself into a position of power so that you can raise a lineage/empire is the only way to be happy.


how the fuck would you know?

>>131546706
No, as in get to a career point where you can be proud of your own accomplishments and aren't using future plans as a way to mitigate your current failures.

Essentially
>lift
Until you unintentionally attract he caliber of pussy you crave.

>>131546288
No. Wrong.

The step-fathers always feel cucked. Their "bride" has been plundered many times by the first husband. Her body got blown apart by his kids. He gets the old leftovers and gets the hard part of parenting.

Only blood-parents get the relationship.

>>131538887

Happiness is subjective.

Some people find joy in harming others. Others in picking daisies.

If your hobbies and interests require copious amounts of alone time or extreme focus, then raising a family isn't for you.

I myself am content with my slightly above average American life. 3 kids, wife, 2 houses, 1 business and disposable income. Unlike most Americans I carry no debts so my life is significantly easier than most peoples...ergo, happiness.

The few "stresses" in my life are truly trivial in nature and easily controlled or alleviated entirely.

Bear in mind 21st century children will be raised in an environment with true access to unlimited education. They will be smarter than you, more well read and travelled than you and have access to goods/services that you never have or ever will. I think every generation of parents tries to bridge the generation gap while partaking in modern trends, and for the most part, failing. Your children will let you know you're failing, and be embarrassed by this as well.

They will "hate" you, spite you, resent and defy you until they're old enough to realise how stupid they are. As adults you will be able to cultivate profound relationships with your children no friendship could parallel.

Nearing the end of my life I cannot say all is good or all is bad. I am very truly happy about having children and working hard to provide for them. My first grandchild will be born in 3 weeks, THAT is an exciting prospect. Marriage is like this shittiest job you'll ever have, with little to no rewards other than "not dying alone". It takes a lot of work to be happy.

>>131539921
This and only this.

>autistic manchildren of /pol/ dream of the day that white people will have full dominion of the Earth
>they then cry 'white genocide' when they get outnumbered by brown people because they're too selfish to have kids

>>131543405
You realize women on okcupid are a tiny sample of the women population, and who are put on a very particular dating situation right?

>>131540066
>correlation = causation
No.

>>131538887


I am married and had kids and couldnt be happier...

But I also married later (40s) and had all my 20s/30s to play and work hard and make $$ and then when I started to get bored with all of that finally found my girl- 13yrs younger who is beautiful, fit and red-pilled- amazing mom and cook and I am looking at retirement with plenty of time for the kids...works for me.

>>131538887
Of course not. Nobody else can make you happy, nobody. It has to come from you.
Can a wife help you in life, yes.
Can children help you, yes.
But none of these will improve your life, you will improve your life.

evolutionarily-speaking, yes

>>131543341
And? They were useless.

Notice how super successful people when they have kids, those kids are pretty much always losers compared to them. So what's the point?

But on the other hand, often in history when wealthy upper class (but not like celebrities, royalty)people their kids often went on to become successful, eg. Bill Gates, Zukerberg etc.. Many such cases, and scientists too, usually were children of wealthy merchants back in the day, which guaranteed access to best education, that how their biographies usually start: "son a of wealthy merchant..."

Basically, successful small/medium size business people having lots of children and teaching them the right values, giving them best education, stimulating them intellectually etc.. is the best strategy.

>>131545020
Why the fuck do you want to date women over 30?

If you don't look like shit and aren't autistic virgin nerd (which you probably are), you shouldn't have problem dating women 10 years younger.

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>>131538887
No

One of countless methods of either anchoring or distraction.

>>131549000
OP asked if getting married and having kids the only way to be happy. Although it is a right thing to do, it doesnt necessarily mean that you will be happy. Nothing jew about this

>>131538887
Frankly life can be too fun these days to have a family. There's so much video games, tv shows etc.. to watch, so much travel and fun stuff you can do, so much things you can buy. All I want is to be rich enough to be free and do whatever I want.

>>131538887
It's not the only way to be happy that's for sure, but there's good evidence that it's one of the few ways you can feel a deep sense of fulfillment and accomplishment.

But like everything in life, it's a trade off. Right now that trade off is not worth it in my personal opinion, which is why I'm a MGTOW and abstain from marriage and fatherhood.

Just understand the risks, make your own decision based on what you really want from life, and accept the consequences of that decision, that's really all you can do.

>>131547249
>marriage is like the shittiest job you'll ever have except the only reward is not dying alone
Pretty sure most people dying alone would say that paycheck is way underrated.

>>131549558
Sometimes I wonder if should just buy an oculus rift and masturbate to 3D porn into oblivion

>>131547528
This is essentially the faggotry of /pol/

>>131538887
For the majority of the population, I think yes.

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>>131538887
Then why are married men always so fucking miserable? Really makes me think

>>131547698
Consistent correlation implies causation. Unless you are saying that women only want men who will eventually live a long time and who are less likely to be clinically depressed?
>what cunts

>>131538887
No. Transcendence males you happy. Family facilitates this to a great degree.

>>131548899
35 is pretty much the oldest a never-married 20 something female would date unless she's a colossal gold digger with a daddy fetish

>>131549751
VR isn't really there yet. But I'm really excited about the future, I hope they won't fuck it up. We all know what VR is really for, and it ain't talking with your stupid "friends" on kikebook, mr Jewberg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuIgyKLPt3s

>>131550004
This is true. But to a mostly atheistic /pol/ it may be one of the only ways.

>>131538887

First off, when your pictured blinked at me it sort of freaked me out. lol...

For some people, marriage is their ultimate form of happiness, but it doesn't always bring happiness.

Happiness actually comes from worth. If you make yourself worth something, have a sense of accomplishment that makes you prosper then you might find yourself content with life.

>>131549924
You only hear about the negative things because negative people are the loudest. Anyone happy doesn't constantly bitch about being happy anon.

>>131538887
>Is getting married and having kids the only way to be happy?
For me it's not about happiness, it's about duty.

>>131550099

Depends how you look, some men look 40 in their 20s. If you look like a beta faggot dad, then yeah, I guess you'll only be able to pull divorced unstable moms.

But then again, it only proves that marriage is ridiculous. Men these days are asked the world with basically nothing in return, not even a fresh young pussy that'll last a few years. Women are a fucking evolutionary mistake.

>>131550929
>Women are a fucking evolutionary mistake
Advanced societies are, if anything

>>131549558
Good goy

>>131550929
>not marrying in your 20s
>complaining that all that is left is the shittiest of the shit or gold digging sloots
This is evolution's punishment for turning into a risk averse beta.
A true alpha would have leveraged his success into satisfactory home life by 40. 40 year old single "alphas" are either divorced Cucks learning from their mistakes or beta cucks hitting their midlife crisis.

>>131551173
No, just women.

I love advanced society.

I was in a "based" 3rd world country on a trip, no thanks.

>>131551237
Hate me for it, but I love stuff. I'm not obsessed with it or anything, but I like having nice things, be able to afford trips, good food etc..
>>131551591
Well, fuck women then.

>>131551591
You dont seem to understand what alpha and beta mean.
Or how it doesnt apply to humans

>>131551901
Also this.

This alpha/beta division is retarded PUA, MGTOW stuff.

Niggers are mostly super "alpha", how does that work out for them?

>>131551901
Alphas and betas apply to humans albeit differently.
>Being risk-averse is inherently non-leadership.
>Marriage is risky and that's why most nu/pol/ rejects the concept.
>Singles by choice are either genetically inferior or cucks

>>131552079
Niggers aren't alpha in the slightest. The vast majority are self-conscious sensitive little bitches. The reason they pursue white pussy is because they can rely on cultural stereotype and get submissive females while staying a pussy bitch.

>>131551591
>getting married at your most financially vulnerable
>thinking you know how you want to spend your life not even 10 years after leaving home
>getting married to the first wet hole who puts up with your stupid shit
People like you are why the divorce rate is climbing.

>>131552460
>divorce rate climbing
Top Kek. It's literally the lowest it has been in over 40 years.

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>>131538887
No; you can also become an Evola shaman warrior monk.

>>131552247
Kek. Autistic faggot.

Right, because all people who reproduce are clearly genetically superior.

The reality is that 99% of people are replaceable cogs in the machine. Yes, white people generally make better cogs, but still - you don't mater, your children won't matter, none of this matters. All will be left is a tombstone.

>>131552580
My mistake

You're still a retard though.

>>131538887
it would be for some, it would be hell for others
happiness is subjective and fleeting

>>131540118
They are happy once they start getting gibs.

>>131552460
Toxic narcissism is why the divorce rate is climbing. Struggling together should actually bring a marriage closer together unless the people involved are obsessed with blaming someone else for all of their problems.

Of course, this describes most modern Americans.

>>131552460
Current statistics for Millennials who have married for over 7 years (the year most couples historically separate) show an 11-17% divorce rate depending on education level and race compared to Boomer and Gen X rates (which are 68% and 41% respectively).

>>131553223
The. Divorce. Rate. Is. Not. Climbing.

Enough with this (((bullshit)))

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>>131538887
YES.. unless you WANT to have sex with many younger women, get drunk and stoned whenever, and spend your money however you like.

>>131552954
We are all a piece of God's puzzle.

>>131553346
If it's bottoming out now its because the people getting married are actually taking it seriously and aren't entering into it with a baby boomer mindset

>>131539228
>>131539663
>Family without power is dangerous because it can often be a burden and prevent power aquisition

A shekel for a good goy

>>131538887
Nope. You won't be happy that way.

Only way to be happy is to give your life to God.

The longest continuously sustainable happiness.

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>>131538887

Did this motherfucker really say "The world needs ditch diggers and ugly women need husbands"?

Supposedly it was in this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyw4rTywyY0

but I listened to it and don't recall that being said. He does seem like a retarded Baby Boomer fuckwit occasionally.

>>131553794
Heroin.

>>131553790
Cocaine.

>>131553845
I have watched the whole thing about a week ago and don't recall him saying that

>>131543373
>piece of mind

Which piece is your legacy?

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>>131540066

>longer life expectancy

Life as a parasitic host.

>higher wages (for men)

Lower net profit due to (((woman))) and kids.

>higher end-career retirement position

See above.

>reduces male risk of depression, suicide and accidental death

lol no. Getting married is a death trap now. However I'm not gonna use that as a rationale to sit on my ass and play video games and watch trash movies and shit.

>>131538887
Wrong question.
The question is -- Why do you think you want to be happy ?

>>131554298
I just want life to be peaceful and bearable in the long run, at least

>>131543341

And what did they do relative to him?
>[crickets chirping]

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>>131554283

Women and the cock carousel.

Get a wife young and innocent or else you will most likely get a used up cum dump

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>>131538887
When Peterson says this, he is talking about marriage in which the presupposition is that neither of you will divorce over petty reasons.

The current marriage structure pretty much ensures misery and suffering.

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>>131543973

If you're honest, you'll know women are much pickier. If you're an idealistic dipshit in denial, you'll conveniently assume all the men are somehow ugly.

That data is from Dataclysm. The researchers were stunned at the data at first and figured they had just fucked up. Nope.

Women are pickier and have higher standards, often unreasonably high.

Peterson detailed this years ago:

skip to 58:32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t966lVrHEzo&t

>>131551901

What do you expect? He used the term "midlife crisis" - you expect understanding from a guy who thinks pop psychology is an actual science?

>>131552247
>Singles by choice are either genetically inferior or cucks

Or guys that get laid and prefer not being tied down. Not that you'd know anything about that...

>>131538887
being happy shouldnt be your goal in life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySxVlE2gSrY&feature=youtu.be

Yes, that's why the divorce rate is so high and there are so many single-mothers: they're just so happy.

>>131554103

Thanks. Someone here said he did. To be honest I wouldn't put it past him to say shit like that though.

>>131546807
mr peterson told him so

>>131556755
>To be honest I wouldn't put it past him to say shit like that though.

if you truly believe that you havent really learned anything from watching his videos assuming you have even watched him at all

>>131555490

He doesn't seem to get it. Check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAE3JbwIAHs

He says marriage is better than co-habitation because to paraphrase "co-habitation is saying 'I'll be with you until someone I like a little more bumps into me', but with marriage you're shackled to one another". That's not true: the current paradigm makes marriage no more than co-habitation with significant legal and financial risk attached.

How does he not know this? Or does he, but he's too hung up on his archetypal bullshit? You can't compare everything to god damn Pinocchio and Beauty and the Beast and the Shadow and the Yin and Yang.

>>131557041

Not an argument. Watch >>131557262
He's a bizarre hybrid of Trad-Con and Liberal, and of course a babby boomer.

Watch this and give me your take:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_AwCM_cPFM

Did he basically say he told a virgin woman to be a whore? I can't quite tell.

>>131540066
and getting a divorce (which is really fucking common) will fuck over all of the above

>>131538887
Yes goy you need to marry a nice Jewish girl to watch CNN with your mother

>>131538887
You can also live a life of service to the community.

>>131547188
>only blood parents get the relationship
Absolutely not true. My step-mom is my blood. Her family is my family. When bio mom came back on the scene I promptly told her to go fuck herself for ghosting for 15 years.

Now, bio mom is remarried and im the sole inheritor of both his and her estates so I play nice. But my step mom is living in a cushy condo in FL and is flown out regularly to see the grandkids that have never met bio bitch.

Fuck her. If you can raise another woman's child, you are the best of womankind.

>>131548669
>be my grandfathers brother
>be too poor for medical school
>settle for morticians degree
>have kids and get married while working like a dog
>finally scrap and save enough to open your own funeral parlor
>have daughters work in parlor comforting the grieving and learning empathy and maintaining a dignified scene
>save every cent of profit
>buy the other two mortuary companies in the city as you send your girls off to college - and still profiting little enough to qualify for need-based scholarships
>grow all businesses until selling around 40 for a massive profit
>buy a bank with stock broker and accountant buddies
>sit back and watch your money double
>buy other banks in the area
>begin aquiring foreclosed homes from your subprime mortgages
>employ your daughter as a real estate agent to resell forclosed homes to other subprime mortgage applicants
>eventually own 15% of a major city
>calculate this while laughing maniacally at your mountainside estate
Tl;dr
>have perfectly well brought up children and be the richest man in the state

>>131549924
Confirmation bias. Also, cultural disposition makes it a valid conversation topic.

t. Someone who sometimes bitches about a perfectly wonderful woman to show comraderie

>>131553484
And because feminism has given us the two income family which increases family income, which decreases the likelihood of divorce compared to lower income families.

Maybe not but it's truly the only way to be fully alive. The complete human experience.

>>131538887
From watching most of my family, friends, etc. have kids and married on, they just pretty much drop off the face of the earth when it comes to social time, only like 1 or 2 still have people around because they make enough money to host.
Others are I guess just to self indulged in their offspring to even care about anything else. So I guess they did find happiness?

I think the majority of people have kids because they are just boring people to be honest and adding a child to their boring lives stirs it up a little and they end up falling love with the family life.

>>131560148
What experience rivaling the grief and loss of divorce does one risk by opting out of marriage?

>>131555930
Not wrong. Not necessarily bad either.

Rich men fucked up by sleeping with women without marrying them and then by marrying the biggest whores of society. Now, if you want a super rich dude, just sleep with everyone and only marry the guys who exceed your fantasies. Why lower your dating/marrying standards when you can have a child quicker and easier by fucking a nigger and when there are literally no consequences in the marketplace?

>>131556173
Are you claiming to be such a specimen?

>>131560795
>unironically believing this
T.BurnoutHippieFag

>>131557624
Not even close to him, but my take is that in some cases, abortion is the least evil thing.

> Abortion is clearly wrong.

See, he's old enough to remember that abortion isn't like having your teeth pulled. Most of us that were born mid eighties or later have essentially been told that abortion is either the thing that makes Jesus hate you, or that it's literally no worse than going to the dentist.

What he's arguing is essentially to engage in long term, honest, faithful relationships before having sex. But he can't exactly say those exact words, can he? 3:10 or so he pretty much says that straight out.

> She needed to have some adventures.
But he's not saying that she should have sex, he's saying she should talk to boys, which may lead to sex. He's not saying that she should slut it up.

He's also defending marriage relatively hard.

>>131556692
Except the majority of single mothers are never-married, not divorced.

>>131557262
He's talking about Marriage, not marriage. He's not talking about the current cuck-marriage. He's talking about the idea of marriage, not the current implementation.

>>131560795
>waaahhh waaahhh my friends that have a family won't hang out and be a degenerate with a responsibilityless burnout like me anymore

They've got children to socialise with retard. The most important and closest relationship they'll have with someone besides their partner you fucking loser.

If you want friends so bad go have some kids. Then you might understand the responsibility and burden.

>>131561807
I have a three year old. been married for 6 years.
But guess what, life doesn't literally revolve around my child. My life revolves around raising her, caring for her, and culturing her and not ignoring the people who got me there at the same time.

>>131560795
Wait, are you saying that they don't like drugs and rioting, so they settle down with another person and have a family, and enjoys that life?

HOW VERY DARE THEY.

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>>131557262
Current data says that if a woman has cohabitated more than once, she's nearly twice as likely to get divorced.

Also, pic related has tips on finding women who are less susceptible to the divorce meme

>>131560896
Probably nothing as you stay ignorant to all that you aren't experiencing. It's less painful to stay single.

>>131562134
Any more assumptions about me mr jump to conclusions?

>>131560795
>people drop off the face of the earth after kids

Exactly. Because being single or single adjacent after having unconditional love and support is just depressing. Also, having faggots somehow devalue thins they don't understand makes it pointless to try and find common ground. It's easier to wait until they have kids and they get it.

>>131562133
>my life doesn't revolve around my child
>my life revolves around raising and red pilling her

I guarentee someone has considered you a person who fell off the face of the earth after having kids. You sound like literally every parent

>>131562959
Nope. Because I have a tight knit friendship circle who helped my wife and I decide if we should have kids, supported us, etc. And still does.
As for the people who I thought were our friends, well guess that explains that. Majority of them had kids, around the same time, and when we do meet up with them it's like LOOK, LOOK AT MY BABY ISn"T IT CUTE! MY BABY, MY BABY!
"here let me take 400 photos of my kid and your kid and post it on instafag"
Yup, it's a baby, now can our babies play together while we catch up and make sure they don't kill themselves from a far.

>>131538887
No.

>>131563478
Lol fair enough, but honestly that just sounds like females in general.

https://youtu.be/J6KohcFbkuY - is the reason i literally do not want to get married. I'm setting up myself up for a massive life destroying screwjob, the likes the world has never seen.

hell no, no thanks.

>>131562492
Is it true you're so retarded that you are unable to clarify your position, but instead just calls people silly names?

>>131538887
it better not be, because divorce is bullshit: https://youtu.be/J6KohcFbkuY

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>>131564367
here we go down the /pol/ water log ride.

>>131562467
I can't blame anyone for not wanting to put their finger in a fingerbox.

>>131538887
Yes. And you live in a way that make it worth it, that justifies your suffering.

Unless you are not white, in that case kys

>>131566569
Lel I wonder how many people have married just to see what the fuss is about.

>>131539033
How do we get into a position of power?

>>131538887
Define happiness. It's different for everyone.

What makes you happy is up to you. That's not a good thing, though, because my vision of happiness might impede of those of others.

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>>131538887

I am 33 and I am pretty happy as a single man. Although I really do believe getting married to the right woman and having children is truly an amazing thing.

Although I don't find myself to be particularly unhappy. I have a good job and great parents and extended family. I have not ruled out marriage or ever having kids I just don't exactly seek it out.

I think artificially seeking something out like that because "that is what you are supposed to do" is simply a recipe for divorce and an unhappy life.

>>131541080
a non cuck leaf, what a time to be alive

>>131538887
There are many ways to be happy.
There is only one to be fulfilled.

You should really ask yourself what you want.

>>131539033
You've literally summed up my life goals more succinctly than I ever have when considering them. I'm a PhD student right now in ME, my goal is to build a company that I can make my family's first million at, while finding a white chick to have five kids with to raise and build a clan with.

>>131546906
>Accomplishments
You're right here.
>Lift for pussy
Sort yourself out anon. Lift for the health benefits and the discipline building it requires. Not for the pussy. The pussy is a happy side effect.