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>>131537898
>he gets Ryan earlier in the year
>Now McConnell is on the chopping block
How masterful is 5D Chess Trump?
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>>131537898
Good, the bill was shit and has been shit from day one. Hopefully it never gets passed unless its a full repeal.
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> Trump can't even repeal obamacare.
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>>131538151
This. I'm sick of lazy leftist faggots propping up widows and orphans to justify their gibs. GET JOBS. This garbage needs to be repealed.
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>>131538096
>wasting the first 6 months of GOP control on a shit bill that could never get passed was a genius move
>forcing more important legislative agenda like tax cuts and reform further behind schedule is a great thing
You guys are embarrassing sometimes.
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Trump betrayed us long ago.
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>>131537898
American people have so unhealthy habits, no wonder healthcare is so expensive
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The bill is bullshit anyway. We need full repeal and to cut medicare, medicaid, social security and EBT to 0.
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>>131538404
but muh 57d underwater mongolian polo!
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>recucklicans still can't repeal obamacare, with total government control and as their only sacred mantra they repeated for 8 years and won their majorities on
It's like the want a massive JUSTing come 2018, not only have Trump pissing off the dems and indies but betraying your base on the defining issue they've been babbling about for years
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>>131539191
Impossible to replace obamacare now. It's in law, and ther's too many people that depend on it.

The only thing logically Trump can do is make the US government enter the insurance business itself being a competitor to All-State, AIG, Blue Cross etc.

Offer the most minimum of health care at lets say 800/year. Then tell everyone this is the most minimum of health insurance. And if you want better insurance, you can buy one from Allstate or something.
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>>131539629
>Impossible to replace obamacare now.
Then why did he promise to repeal and replace it?
That's his words. Repeal it. Replace it.

Are you telling me he... lied?
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>>131539769
yep all trump does is lie. republicans lied for 8 years. they had no plan
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>>131539593
Please don't shit up this thread.
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>>131539769
He was pro single payer way back in the past, id like to think he is aware of the actual problem (health care cost) and is working to figureout a way to fix it. But thats just what id like to think, not what i actually think.
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>>131539999
I started this thread.
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>>131537898
Trump(doesn't)care is bad for America

Call your Congressman
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>>131538045
Hiw is this bait? They lack the support to even take it to the senate. Portman, Heller, Collins and Murkowski wont vote for cuts to medicaid and Cruz, Paul and Lee want a full repeal. The GOP is in a tough spot
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>>131538834
Never going to happen. Obamacare is now popular ad more people get medicaid. Sorry faggit, if you want a libertarian paradise you are free to go live in the woods
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This fucking faggot Ryan should put this exact same bill on Trump's desk. http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/08/politics/obama-vetoes-obamacare-repeal-bill/index.html
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>>131540096
At least, listen to the quads
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>>131537898
Wew laddy
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>>131540831
Why? It wont pass. The GOP sat on their ass for years and sent repeal bills up that were vetoed but when they got power they knew full well cuts to medicaid would destroy them. Thats why it stopped being repeal and became repeal and replace
1/5 of the nation is now on medicaid and its mainly rural whites that support the GOP. Single payer is inevitable as evidenced by the fact the republicans are unwilling to toss people off of medicaid
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>>131540534

The law doesn't make sense from a simple economics standpoint. If you can't be denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition what's the point of paying for insurance every month instead of just waiting until you need it to go get it? The law is fundamentally killing insurance providers to the point that they're getting out of the business of selling health insurance. I'm sure you want this socialized medicine crap and to take it away from the free market, but that's going to make the quality of care decrease and will actually cause millions of people to die under your plan. At least under a free market its survival of the fittest and evolution at work.
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>>131540831
>ryan
He is an inept, corrupt, stupid fucking cunt. Him along with McCain, McConnel etc are fucking shit.
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>>131538151
>Hopefully it never gets passed unless its a full repeal.

Finally, a true conservative on /pol/.
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>>131541546
>The law is fundamentally killing insurance providers to the point that they're getting out of the business of selling health insurance
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>>131540965
I thought u retards claimed I don't start threads?
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>>131541546
Socialized medicine works everywhere else. Qe are just going to have to implement price controls, caps on doctor pay etc.
There is no free market solution and frankly people dont want one because no one trusts capitalism anymore.
And your idea about survival of the fittest and evolution is not only laughably stupid it is also politically infeasible. People arent going to ait back and watch people die and if you seriously proposed that you would be ran out of office
Single payer is the future as evidenced by the fact the GOP isnt able to cut medicaid. Libertarianism is a doctrine of the past.
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>>131538858
It's 6000000D chess now goy.
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>>131537898
FAKE NEWS
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>>131541546
Meant to aed that denying coverage for preexisting conditions is a nonstarter. That idea has a 17% approval rating so no politician will support it
Obama knew he coildnt get single payer so he moved people towards it gradually and not "free market ideas" have no support.
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>>131541546
>At least under a free market its survival of the fittest and evolution at work.
born in the purple is fit

this is an easy tell of how young posters are. healthcare has been imploding for the past 20 years. the problem is obesity, lack of insurance, price fixing, etc.
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Why is taking the time to pass a worthwhile bill seen as a bad thing?
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>>131538374
>he thinks there are jobs in the new economy
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Stop trying to cover up, cucked news network shill >>131540365
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>>131542301
This here, price controls and UHC are now the only way out of this
Unironically Good Job Obama.
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>>131541999
Libertarianism was never a doctrine. It was always a fantasy for greedy rich people who felt they didn't owe anything back, and man-children who thought they'd get rich being pool boys for greedy rich people.

People have seen the Free Market's vision of healthcare, and they know they simply can't afford it.
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>>131538834
>cut medicare, medicaid, social security and EBT to 0
>kills all the olds, fewer people than ever voting GOP
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>>131541594
/pol/ never was conservative
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>>131542114
Naw this is real life ya idiot.
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>>131542624
This. The Dems can just sit and watch the GOP twist itself into knots trying to cater to Big Insurance while simultaneously not fucking their constituents who need affordable healthcare.

Then everyone can come to the Grownup Table and install UHC.
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>>131542645
The customer has zero bargaining power in healthcare. It doesn't belong on the market, period.
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>>131537898
FUCK MITCH MCONNEL HES A DICKSUCKING QUEER FUCK YOU NOBODY AGREES WIT YOU FAGGOT YOU ACT LIKE A FAGGOT
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>>131542301

Do you have any idea what the costs are to R&D a new drug, get it through FDA approval and finally manufacture it and bring it to market?
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>>131542329
They've had 7 years and still can't figure out something their own party will vote for, even though every single one of them said it was their number 1 priority for those 7 years. (Almost 8 years now)
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>>131541546
>what's the point of paying for insurance every month instead of just waiting until you need it to go get it?

The healthy subsidize the sick, this is the way our current system works. Health costs are based not on what people are willing to pay, but on what insurance companies are willing to pay, because almost everyone has insurance through their employer.

This has caused health care costs to increase, to meet what insurance companies are willing to pay.

Now at this point you might ask "surely insurance companies want things to be as cheap as possible so they can profit". This is wrong, insurance companies want things to be as cheap for them as possible up to the point that its still expensive for a single individual to pay for their own emergency care. This way people are manipulated into wanting insurance, and in the end everyone being insured and paying these higher prices, the insurance company makes more than they would if insurance was less common.

So it is essentially a collusion between insurance companies and health care companies. A mutually beneficial relationship which may or may not have been intentionally conspired, but which is certainly a comfortable position for them, so why change?

The only way change will be enacted is if some external force acts. This can either come from massive consumer uprising, which is not going to happen because this is peoples health, and in many cases their literal survival, we are talking about, or government intervention on the peoples behalf, which has worked elsewhere.
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Delaying it doesn't cancel it retard.
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>CNN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP8TiKY8dE
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>>131537898
that's just good politics.

after the long break and everyone's back to picking up shit there will be less flack about reducing entitlements.
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>>131542816
has (((pol))) always been a GOP establishment shill and billionaire globalist supercuck board?

that's all i see on here
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>>131543204
>billionaire globalist supercuck
Hmmmmmm....
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Mitch McConnell is why we need term limits
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>>131541546
>At least under a free market its survival of the fittest and evolution at work
>DUDE SOCIAL DARWINISM LMAO
Somebody should kill you.
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>>131543305
No that would be Mccain
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>>131543204
>>131543296
Really made me think.
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Obamaleaf is oddly slow w/ the shitposting today. Makes a shitpost thread and it's taken this long to start posting pictures unrelated to the OP.

Also,
>only one party are globalists
Fuck both the Dems and the Repubs equally
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>>131543396
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>>131542990
No one is trying to cover costs, pay scientists and make a tidy profit.

They are trying to create AMAZING GAINS to jump up their share prices and create billionaires.

Lots of useful, life-saving drugs with a minimal return are being abandoned, so we can develop "treatments" that don't fix a damn thing but cost $150,000 a year to implement.
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>>131543419
maybe i'm in other threads
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>>131543419
Have you noticed a trend how he starts shitposting en masse only after something bad for the left happens.

Last time he was that butthurt was after the Paris accord withdrawing.
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>>131543660
But you put the effort into the OP, you gotta make sure your own thread is taken care of.
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>>131541594
Yup let each of these turd's sink till we get a decent clean repeal.

Fuck them for trying to keep obama care
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>>131543204
It's almost like the percentage saved will be greater for rich people
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>>131543739
oh

it's taken care of

it's getting bumped is it not
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>>131543612
>wtf i love goldman sachs now
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>>131541944
You have started putting everyone in a bracket again. I never said that.
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>>131543867
It's almost like Trump's tax cuts overwhelmingly benefit the wealthy. It's almost like trickle down is a scam. It's almost like you're cucks.
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>>131543788
Indeed. If liberals understood the Constitution, they'd be pushing for full repeal themselves at the fed level while screaming at their state leaders to craft their own.
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>>131538374
>GET JOBS.
You mean all the ones that have been lifting roots and escaping since Ryan axed the federal funds bribing them to stay?

Stay cucked free-marketers.
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>>131544024
all right wing retards look the same to me
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>>131544106
>when you hate so much the 1% you become one of them
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>>131537898
THAT CARD?!?
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>>131543296
>>131543396
>a shitty bill written by the healthcare insurance industry
>implying it can't get replaced by an even shittier one
Hmmmmm
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>>131544230
How are you seeing people through the screen? Pretty sure I have my camera blocked perv.
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>>131544360
>implying the US will ever actually get a good healthcare bill
Goy, I...
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>>131544099
>If liberals understood the Constitution
There's nothing in Obamacare that's unconstitutional. The only thing that was(compulsion of states to except funds) got overturned within a year.

It's a shitty law that doesn't fix the main problem that the US considers Insurance to be medical care.
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>>131544289
>fascist is a shill for the 1%
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>>131544428
I support all healthcare bills that result in more dead burgers.
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>>131544484
>commie flag
Don't you have a cringe afa protest to organise?
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>>131544601
Autism speaks
Pic related
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>>131544354
what card?

You're denying Mitch pulled the bill?
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>>131544230
FFS, I am not right wing. How many times have I told you this
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>>131544748
>what card?
This one.
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>>131544371
lol we have technology that overcomes that
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>>131544988
Fuck, and every good ameriburger has a microwave for their frozen TV dinners too.
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>>131544696
http://archive.is/c4iEr
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>>131545085
all part of the plan
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>>131544748
This is just humiliating. Supposedly they could only get 35 vites which is hilarious
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>>131537898
good it was a shitty ass bill that only benefited jews
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>>131545221
they couldn't even do a procedural vote to move forward which is routine

Republicans are shit at govt. You can tell the only thing they're interested in is slashing taxes for the rich. They don't care about anything else.
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>>131538549
hey i'm an ex-google insider

i did an internship, 10 years ago over there, it makes me an insider, by cnn standards, right? i'm an ex-googler.

get fucking overyourselves retards, just an ounce of critical thinking. mnuchin was a GS banker FIFTEEN YEARS AGO, after which he started his own investment fund.
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>>131537898
WHY YOU RURAL RETARDS
WHY WASN'T I 50 POINTS AHEAD IT WAS M TURN YOU BIGOTS
NOW DRUMPF IS DESTROYING OBONGO'S LEGACY I'LL HAVE YOUR HEAD FOR THIS YOU STUPID FROGS
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>>131545579
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>>131538374

Most gibsmedats come from red states and no amount of crying will change that. Also, a NEET telling /pol/ to get jobs is nothing short of ironic--kill yourself and stop being a waste of air.
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>>131545773
reeeeetaaaaaaard
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>>131546090
reeeetaaaard
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>>131545891

Fuck the sick and fuck the poor.
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>>131538404
He's not a Republican. He was just elected to fuck with people. If these cucks had a decent repeal/replace bill like they said they had it'd be a done deal but all they had was rhetoric.
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>>131542535
Even a mildly retarded teenager can find a job. I hear ads allllll day on the local radio stations about places trying to fill positions. Are all those jobs cushy desk jobs? No. Are all those jobs located in all areas? No. But get your fucking hands dirty or move to where the work is and anybody can earn a living.

Stop being fucking soft and stupid.
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>>131537898
Trump goes through legal channels and checks and balances
>DRUMPF EVIL FASCIST DICTATOR
Trump can't magically implement his desired policies
>DRUMPF CON MAN FOOLED THE VOTERS
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>>131547275
GOP Congress can't repeal obamacare after promising for 7 years that they would
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>>131537898
Good. WHy can't Trump stick to his, "Let Obamacare fail on its own" mantra?
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>>131547469
And? Trump isn't commanding the GOP through a hive mind.
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>>131544601
I fully condone the deaths of those who have to rely on public healthcare.
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So desperate for a W, the shills of pol will grasp at anything in these dry days.
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>>131542699
Who do you think relies on Medicaid and welfare the most?
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>>131537898
There are deals being made right now, along the lines of "give me war in Syria and I give you X votes for your healthcare plan".
Fucking disgusting swamp shit. The West needs some real revolutions where the "elites" end up on the chopping block, democracy just doesn't work to flush them all out.
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>>131539972

they do have some plan.

1) they want to rollback tax increases on very wealthy.

2) allow health insurance companies to sell more profitable shit-tier health plans.
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>>131548119

3) oh and cut medicaid.
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>>131547720
old white people
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>>131547608
hes a shitty leader
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>>131544289
why do you keep bringing up Obama and Bernie when the discussion is about Trump?
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>>131548119
cut taxes on the rich and don't give a fuck about everyone else

that's always the gop plan
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>>131548286
wew good question
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>>131537898
Your opinion means nothing.
Source: your flag
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>>131548286
>>131547706
Wanna know how I know you guys are new?
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>>131547469
They dont even have a plan.. Not once in8 years did they plan
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>>131548286
>this thread
>discussion
I won't call ad homs, strawman and r/politics screeching a nice discussion.
Also, double standard.
Obongoleaf knows very well his idol sucked 1% dick 24/7, but still calls other globalist shills.

Atleast he knows how to fish (You)s( and give himself ones, kek).
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the only thing that will work is the state imploding itself
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>>131537898
>party of no
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>>131548727
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>>131549063
>what are tax dodging and loopholes
Stay dumb, leaf.
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>>131549297
clearly something you cucks refuse to do anything about because you don't want to hurt your billionaire globalist overlords
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>>131549447
>billionaire globalist overlords
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>>131549297
>can't even make their own memes
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>>131549745
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>>131549642
Lol that doesn't even make sense. Average americans don't benefit from lower interest rates? Lol your entire fucking ideology is slashing taxes for the rich and working for as little as possible so the rich can hoard it all. Stop being such a cuck.
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>>131549642
Low interest, low inflation AND the USD boomed. THANKS OBAMA!
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>>131549745
>>131550055

>voting at all

the fine art of choosing the best dog to watch your sausage
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>>131549447
Also, your graph shows that the budget was doing great just after Reagan's tax cuts of '86.(untill that retarded spook H.W came).
Kek!
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>>131550878
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Recovery_Tax_Act_of_1981

In the year after enactment of ERTA, the deficit ballooned, which in turn, drove interest rates from around 12% to over 20%, which, in turn, drove the economy into the second dip of the 1980-82 "double dip recession". The Dow Jones average, which had been over 1000 before enactment of ERTA, fell to 770 by September 1982. Much of the 1981 ERTA was backed out in September 1982 by the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 (TEFRA), sometimes called the largest tax increase of the post-war period. The "Reagan recovery" began within weeks of enactment of TEFRA.
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>>131550987
>I talk about the tax cut in '86
>he brings the one from '81
Just pointed one fallacy in your graph, you waste of proteins and nucleic acids.
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>>131550878
>>131550987
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>>131551293
Why are you ignoring that Reagan tripled the budget deficit and caused a recession with his retarded tax cuts?
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>>131551316
Why don't you give yourself some (You)s?
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>>131551538
>bragging about Reagan tripling the budget deficit it he inherited
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>>131551412
So what were we talking about again?
The error in your shitty chart or we are going to make a deep political and economical analysis of Reagan's presidency?
Leaving now, stay alone in your shitty thread.
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>>131551771
There is no error. You're completely ignoring Reagan's disastrous tax cuts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Recovery_Tax_Act_of_1981

In the year after enactment of ERTA, the deficit ballooned, which in turn, drove interest rates from around 12% to over 20%, which, in turn, drove the economy into the second dip of the 1980-82 "double dip recession". The Dow Jones average, which had been over 1000 before enactment of ERTA, fell to 770 by September 1982. Much of the 1981 ERTA was backed out in September 1982 by the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 (TEFRA), sometimes called the largest tax increase of the post-war period. The "Reagan recovery" began within weeks of enactment of TEFRA.

You're also ignoring that Based Bill CLinton raised taxes on the wealthy elites you shill for and the economy soared and he balanced the budget.
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>>131551771
wait you're this guy isn't it
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>>131551771
>>131552100
shit wrong one.

you're this guy aren't you? pic rel
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>>131538404
>ITT spergs who don't understand Senate rules

You need to pass health care first, or tax cuts won't get done. If health care gets passed you only need 51 votes to pass tax cuts as opposed to 60
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Love Trump
Hate this garbage bill
So glad its dead, and thanks to Rand Paul it wont pass.
>OP thinks he has a win, but in reality nobody wanted this bill to pass
Now obamacare can stand and fail, and it'll prove what everyone said from the beginning that it was DEMOCRAT BULLSHIT, and the democrats will lose more seats in 2018 as millios more lose insurance because of obamacare.

Trumps 6d chess is amazing on this, let obamacare fail, let the demcorats eat the shitpie, and then force the democrats to sign anything tosave face.....
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>>131537898
>Cooncare subsidies staying
At this point, what difference does it make?
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>>131552308
aren't republicans supposed to solve problems for the american people? Not make them worse. Obamacare is failing because Trump is deliberately sabotaging it by withholding subsidies . Democrats have offered to fix Obamacare but Republicans don't want to do it.

Because Republicans want to fuck over the American people and specifically old white people.
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>>131543095
Hahaaha you wrote all that and answered nothing...
>What a massive gaping faggot

He said, if they must take people with pre existing conditions like they do now, why would people pay in when they could just wait till they're sick THEN SIGN UP SINCE THEY COULDNT BE DENIED, THEREFORE NOT PAYING IN WHEN THEY WERE HEALTHY.

God i hate summer fags, cant wait till summers over...oh yea, ppl who use new flags are JEW FAGGOTS
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>>131537898
>$250,000 gift to the mega rich

Do these people even listen to themselves?
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>>131552877
> New flags
> complains about summer
Get out newfag
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