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>he only know how to use windows >makes peace with the

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>he only know how to use windows
>makes peace with the fact that he is going to be spied on by every amerinigger alphabet agency and eventually even hacked by some old exploit rather than learn the alternative
>believes to be redpilled


surely this isn't you, right?
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>>131525835
>>>/g/entoo
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>>>/g/
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I'm nonwhite (like OP) so /g/ and /pol/ told me I'm not allowed to use GNU/Linux
>inbeefour the "pohle is not 1 person" meemay
You're intellectually dishonest or lying if you think there isn't a consensus opinion on here
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>uses linux
>can't use any good software, because on linux there is none
>is so desperate and bored on his os that he has to brag about his os being free all the time, to feel good at least a little bit
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>>131525835
I had to install Windows again because of ONE fucking program (which I need for work) that didn't work properly on ubuntu. fml.
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>>131525883
>>131525885
>>131526079

I'd be pissed off too if I were dumb enough to be stuck using wangblows
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>>131526079
Most of the stuff works on linux perfectly. Except for games, linux absolutely sucks here.
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>>131526079
write your own fucking softwares fritz
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>>131525835
>because operating system is the only method of being spied on.
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>>131526417
Are you an expat? /pol/ told me that nonwhites are too dumb to use *nix commands

>>131526461
It's the easiest way to spy on someone these days. Why try to dig up info about someone when you could just let them give it to you
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>>131525835
You do realise the CIA know how to hack ubuntu and your router as well...
Unless you are mad enough to run something like temple os then
And I hope you disabled zeitgeist if you're running unity
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>>131526202
virtualbox fagget
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>>131526540

>You do realise the CIA know how to hack ubuntu and your router as well...

install anything else? or even better install Xubuntu like a rational human bean

routers are fucked I'll give you that, there is nothing to be done
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>>131525835
You're an idiot if you think that just using Linux guarantees your privacy. Because nothing does. If you want to be safe just don't do anything illegal on your computer.
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>>131525835
Did you miss the vault 7 leak?

The government has a back door there too
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If my computer gets encrypted by a virus who cares? Theres nothing on it, anything important is duplicated elsewhere. I might lose some installed steam games I never play, or whatever trash is littering my desktop

What the fuck do I need linux for? Are you looking up fucked up porn?
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>>131525835
which distro you on?
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>>131526079
only good software packages out there are:
1) gcc for generating data
2) Gnuplot for interpreting data

Rest is for brainlets
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>>131526808
One man's trash...
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>>131526533
Operating system is only one piece of privacy puzzle. Simply switching to Linux isn't the answer.
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>using technology
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>>131525835
I bet you feel like a true hacker for using CLI
unix based OS were, and im sure they still are insecure as fuck
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>>131526417
>>131526430
>>131526460

Don't get me wrong. I've used Linux and I love it, because it runs so fast & smooth. I like the encryption (which I truly trust, I don't trust Windows encryption for some reason). I also like the simplicity and that you are able to be so close to your machine.

BUT

If you seriously run Linux ONLY, you are literally an autistic faggot. I make music for a living, doing that is IMPOSSIBLE with Linux. There is no Ableton Live, no VST-Plugins, no Drivers for my Audio Interface.
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>>131525835
American Intelligence backdoors aren't just software-based, they're in the hardware itself from companies cooperating with them. Use things Linux/GNU if you're sick of Microsoft's cancerous programming, bloat, and retarded justifications, not as some kind of imaginary countermeasure to avoid getting spied on. If they really want to get your information, they're going to get it.
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>>131526556
The program itself already uses way too much cpu and ram for my laptop so this would be a shot in the knee. Best solution was just install Jewndows
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>>131526891

always hilarious to watch tech illiterate nogs defend their ignorance
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>>131526891
I know things like hardware-level backdoors exist, but I'm just a dumb 'ol shitskin so I'm not worth spying on anyway :^)
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>thinking Linux will stop spying agencies and governments

You realise that hardware itself is back-doored now, right?
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>>131526779
For kernel 2.5. Most modern distros are running 4.6.
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>>131527036

I do this as well, simply encrypt my gnu distro and have a small windows partition on the other HDD

on my desktop I can emulate everything just fine using either wine or virtualbox
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>>131526079
>germany
>pro windows
>pro immigration
>pro EU
>pro islam
>pro faggots
>pro pedophiles
>pro liberalism
>pro race mixing
>pro niggers
>pro sand niggers
>pro rape
i bet i forgot a few..
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>>131527116
It's not about getting yourself one hundred percent security and privacy, but making it harder for those looking to find you.
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>>131526779

you do realize those exploits are for linux kernels stuck in 2007 right?
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Although to be quite honest PowerShell and C# are pretty decent technologies
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>>131527234

VirtualBox isn't emulation, faggot.
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>>131527273

Of course. Those paranoid enough can use Tails OS with persistent encryption and Tor. But obviously state entities with the time and resources will still get you if they really want to.

You can only minimise the risk, not eradicate it.
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>>131527347
I don't get why is water fox in the placebo autism tier while Pale Moon was created by a furry. Not saying it's a bad browser or anything I'm just curious.
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>>131527264
yes
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>>131527651

>potato nigger being a defeatist faggot

the gooberment spend years looking for DPR and were only able to find him using his old, uncovered internet activity, they couldn't brake the TOR abstraction layers nor the encryption

you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, then again odds are I'm talking with a random kenyan nigger
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>>131526540
>using ubuntu
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>>131525835
It isn't a flaw of the OS as much as the dumbfuck normies that use them.
Chad using a distro would be able to fuck it all up somehow as much as he would be able to fuck up windows.
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>>131525835
>2017
>not running TempleOS
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>>131527010
>what is a virtual machine
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>>131526460
>dude just do everything yourself xxDD like nigga just live on a commune n farm your own food like fuck usefulness XX))

Linux logic
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>>131527264
>german
>use windows, because i'm not an ideological idiot
>not pro immigration, but if the majority of germans is for it, i can't change it
>not pro eu, i believe in natural law and self-ownership and self-responsibility
>religion is for slaves, i only embrace truth and try to align with it by being conscious
>not a faggot, but i don't mind what other people do, it's none of my business to tell someone what he can or cannot do, i don't care
>i hate pedophiles and many many people also do, my grandfather is a pedophile and he's a piece of shit
>i'm an anarchist (no masters, everybody is responsible for himself)
>i don't mind if some people race-mix, i don't own other people, they can do whatever they want. some black chicks are hot as fuck (mostly the ones from upper middle class families)
>i don't care about skin color, i judge people by their actions. if a nigger is a socialists and wants gibs i hate him and want him to be **** before he kills for gibs. if he's sane and leaves me alone i dont care
>muslim is a religion, religion is slavery. i don't mind muslim as long as they leave me along. if they come for me they deserve to die.
>in a close village not far from here a group of german men battered a refugee because he showed himself naked to a 13 yo girl, the police saw it and ignored it, in rural areas stuff doesn't get unnoticed like in the big city hells
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SEL4 / Quark master race. Fuck you all.
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>>131526430
That's the only part that make me go for dual boot. Work on GNU/Linux, play shit on wangblows. Also everyone in this thread please use the correct term GNU/Linux and not only Linux.
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>>131527065
Yeah but I'd be tech illiterate in any case because I'm a dumb 'ol shitskin just like you :^)
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>>131528209
>>use windows, because i'm not an ideological idiot
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>>131527929

>Mexican intellectuals

What don't you understand about the phrase "minimise the risk?"

>using Linux will protect you g-g-guys
>no, not completely
>b-b-but here's a guy who got caught so I'm right, see?

Build the wall.
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>>131528185
Its not hard and you can use literally any language.
You can usually write a one liner command or a pipe that will blow the shit out of any windows cobbled together shareware/virus that might do want you want after the 60th try.
>Bash>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CMD
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>>131528362
>using linux
>getting anything done that is not programming work
>implying
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>>131528389

>b-b-but here's a guy who got caught so I'm right, see?

kenya teaches better reading comprehension than this, you truly are a 'tatonog
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>GUYS YOU'RE NOT REALLY USING A COMPUTER UNLESS YOU'RE WAITING 45 MINUTES FOR FIREFOX TO COMPILE THIS IS WHAT REAL COMPUTING IS ABOUT

Only joking, lads. I have a Windows/Ubuntu dual boot and I only use Windows for games.
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>>131528334
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
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>>131528584
WTF does that even mean?
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>>131525919
>pol is less than 2 opinions
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>>131527010

All the Ableton devs left to go write bitwig (runs on linux) fucktard. try to keep up.
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>>131527010
>being this fagaty
Ardour
Audacity
Ecasound
Gnome Wave Cleaner
Jokosher
LMMS
MusE
Qtractor
Rosegarden
SoX
Sweep
Traverso
WaveSurfer
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>>131528725
>implying there isn't a majority consensus with most opinions on /pol/
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>>131528587

>mfw Earth keeps all the Mexican intellectuals stored on a truecrypt volume so nobody has ever encountered one
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>>131528841
>implying there is
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Richard Stallman Eats Something From His Foot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ
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>>131528929
Nah
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>>131528810
>>131528766
god damn, go make your shitty experimental music with 20 views on youtube.
also, linux has NO vst support.

meanwhile i'm making money with top tier software.
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>>131525835
>redpilled
>spends all his time doing nerdshit on a computer
Go outside, get a life and get /fit/.
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>>131527010
not every non autistic faggot produces music you autistic faggot
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http://cdm.link/2017/03/steinberg-brings-vst-linux-good-things/
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>>131528810
I've been using a Linux machine for 3 full years.
The software is unironically shit.

Just because you can make a list of 20 doesn't mean they're good. They're all shit.
The only open-source media software that's halfway decent is Blender.
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>>131528671
>Ubuntu
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>>131529045
Gas Yourself
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>>131525835
STOP PROMOTTING LINUX when you choose and OS the only thing that matters is what programs you'll use, if linux doesn't have native support you better don't use that, sometimes even if is supported
>wine = shit
>playonlinux = shit
>support for linux = shit
>omg linux is fucked ! what to do? > reinstall
sudo apt-get a life you gentoo fag
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>>131527929
That's what they tell you anyway. Im not sure if they cracked tor they'd let us know
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>>131529337
Nah
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>>131529263
have fun waiting 20 years until spectrasonics releases a port for omnisphere 2 and izotope releases a port for ozone 7.

that's what i mean. if you are not living in your moms basement and you actually have to do real life work with your os, linux is not your choice. not even for webdev. i worked in a professional webdev company and they only used linux inside a virtual machine.

go feel like some sort of prodigy because you are using linux. meanwhile i enjoy the fruits of modern capitalism.
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>>131529423
what were we arguing about again?
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>>131528138
>virtual machines don't need drivers
leave it to an avatar fag to be retarded too
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>>131528848
CAN SOMEONE PLS TELL ME WHO THIS KID IS! HIS FACE MAKES ME LAUGH AND GOOGLE IMAGES SAYS THAT HE IS A PENIS!
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>>131525835
Some of us work on something other than lawns, Paco.
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>>131529597
Which cunt has shitter internet
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I haven't used Windows years and from what I've heard about Windows 10 I never will again. Having in the file explorer is enough to be done with it but it seems like more and more they're taking an Apple approach and closing systems up in an attempt to make them idiot proof. I don't like the idea of being forced to do things the way that companies want me to do them.

This is one of the reasons that I'll never buy an Iphone or an Ipod. In order to use those things you have to go through Itunes and deal with that bullshit. I know you can pull some fuckery in order to transfer files onto them like you would on any other device but it's the principle of the matter. I shouldn't have to jump through hoops in order to pull off such a simple operation.
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>>131527312
>he doesn't know about the processor backdoor
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>>131529084
It's shit kinda shit m8.
I've been running the latest/newest Desktop Environment, KDE Breeze.

Small shit never works, and it's endless.
Sometimes the screen will never wake from sleep. It'll stay black, even though the machine wakes back up.
The Bluetooth hardware randomly won't be recognized.
Sometimes, the pop-up toolbars to show Volume/Battery/Screen Brightness disappear. Restart to fix.
Trying to back out of a menu in the Settings will crash the app.

This is off the top of my head, and problems I've encountered just the past couple days.
There's tons of these.
Every time an update fixes some of them, it adds new ones. You'll never get a clean desktop experience.
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>>131529396
If you use programs that you need Windows or macOS for, you need to change your fucking life ASAP.

>wine = shit
kinda
>playonlinux = shit
no
And who the fuck plays video games anyways? Faggot.

>support for linux = shit
Support? pic related

>omg linux is fucked ! what to do? > reinstall
You are the kind of people who delete system32 because h4ck3r n r007 sheeeeeeeeeeeeit. Linux is for big boys, you cause too much trouble. Yea, please keep on using Windows, it's better for you.

Inb4 BSOD 8===3~~~
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>>131529271

>he hasnt heard of Hydrogen, BEAST, FluidSynth, Mixxx

>>131529065
the sounds of the turk beating his dick up fritz's hole makes more money than any of your lame polka jams mixed on ableton
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>>131528671
That webm reminds me of the time I was at work and got a small jizz stain on my pants without realizing it.
I had got a boner and fekt something cold and sticky on my skin, and when I looked down to see what the fuck that was it turned out I got a little precum leaking out.
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>>131525883
fpbs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjGSMUep6_4
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>>131529786
Truth be told, you can take your autism to the next level with libreboot... that is if you really have no life and don't have work to do on the computer.
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Now I know why /pol/ has gone to shit

Because all the /v/fags are here with their Windows.

kys faggots!
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>>131525835

>linux
>like its 2008
>Not windows 10 ltsb

Retarded turbonigger
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>>131529522
>if you are not living in your moms basement and you actually have to do real life work with your os, linux is not your choice. not even for webdev. i worked in a professional webdev company and they only used linux inside a virtual machine.

>Web development
>real work

All development work at my company is done on Linux. Windows is used for some testing and for virtualisation purposes as well as conferencing for management etc. The meat and veg, the product itself is created on Linux.
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It's fun to fuck with
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>>131529960
I own FLStudio.
Is it better than that? What's the VST support like? I've bought a bunch of VST plugins, and they come as DLLs.
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>>131529661
Or you could stop being a pleb
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>>131526079
idk about you mang, but I'm into photography as a hobby. Linux has a ton of free shit that works really well.

>darktable
>krita
>digikam
>even gimp is good for the shit I do

3d modelling is good with blender. CAD is behind though.

Libreoffice is just as good as microsoft office

VLC/mpv are both better than anything microsoft has to offer

Clementine is great for music

I have steam installed and play war thunder way too goddamn much. I even bought a vidya game for the first time in forever (fucking rocket league). Can play Doom, CS:GO and Eve too. Obviously I'm not a serious gamer at all but it more than gets the job done.

Not to mention Linux is a lot easier to fix if shit breaks. With WIndows your shit is pretty much gone.
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>>131529979

hes talking about a hardware backdoor that (((intel))) is forcing on all new products, old processors don't seem to be affected but the guy is obviously slow and I rather not have him quite me with his shit
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>>131525835
>not using Tails OS so you can do sneaky shit on the Internet and access the deep web
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>>131529822
That never happens to me, and I had all the distros from slack to elementary with thousands different setupz. Linux is for actual adults, babies should stay on windows and Mac.
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>>131525835
>Still uses backdoored hardware
>>131526079
This retard thinks there is no good software on linux.
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>>131529979
At what point do you just say fuck it and create a system (habitual system, not virtual one) that allows you to have however much security you want on any system you want?
>they can see your information!
Ok, I'll just make it worthless for them.
>they have your passwords!
to shit I don't care about. All important documentation is physical and in my safe.
>muh botnet!
Make yourself worthless to them and they will skip over you for an easier target.

Could always just use old shit too.
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>>131530015
Some of us use our computers for work. I know a nigger like yourself doesn't understand the concept of work, but for the time being get used to the idea.
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>he thinks he can avoid the spying by using Linux
Yea you're gonna have to try a little bit harder than that bro.
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>>131529848
>programs that you need Windows or macOS
Sure both office packages works great
>tell me more about openoffice and libreoffice
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>>131525835
Linux? That's compromised too. TempleOS or bust.
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>>131530175
>mexican intellectuals
>he fell for the "digital is safe!" meme
Unless you design your own encryption, design your own bootloaders, and design effectively everything else you use, you are putting yourself at risk.
The more you trust others to protect you, the more you will lose security in your life. Not that a mexican would understand taking control of their own lives.
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>>131530267
I distro-hopped about 10-15 different ones.
It's always like that.
I've been using Arch Linux the longest, honestly the easiest distro to configure. If something breaks, you know you can fuck around with the OS settings without breaking a ton of other bloatware shit that comes preinstalled.
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>>131530401
>tell me more about openoffice and libreoffice

Openoffice has been dead for years, why would you use it? That'd be like me bitching why My WIndows XP isn't functional nowadays.

Libreoffice is it's successor and is pretty comfy.
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>>131530401
Oh dear motherfuck, people who use Office are like Mac users who SWEAR that it is IMPOSSIBLE to do decent work on a Windows or Linux PC.

Office is overpriced turdery.
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>>131530175
>old

lol more like anything that doesnt sound like an hourglass when its under load
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>>131527264

>Portugal
>Pro poverty
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>>131525835
Linux is great. But this isn't the board for tech-related bait threads. I come here to get away from that.

>>>/g/
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>>131530529
Ok and that doesn't refute his objectively correct post about hardware-level backdoors, you virgin
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>>131529848
>And who the fuck plays video games anyways? Faggot.
>Inb4 BSOD 8===3~~~
more proof that the linux memers are underage fags getting into their first distro.
>install ubuntu
>instantly start shitposting on 4chan about joining le masterrace
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>>131525835
Right, it's not me. I've mained Arch for about four years now. Feels good, man. When are Microcucks gonna learn better?
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>>131526202
>winblows
>not os/2 warp

stay dumb, pleb
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>>131530282
>Could always just use old shit too.
Yeah, not really an option if you need to compile a lot of code and emulate entire datacenters (testing replication, cache validation etc.)...
My windows machine can do all of that and much much more, and it has a relatively good antivirus (BitDefender) that kept me files from all the ransomware attacks taking place lately.
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>>131525835

Why are there a million iterations of linux and GUIs that all just suck. Fucking focus on getting one done well instead of all this halfass shit.
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>>131527347
I use Lynx. It's pretty comfy not having to worry about ads without a blocker when I'm just reading articles.
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>>131530722
>hardware-level backdoors
Where did I say they don't exist? Stop being so fucking dead set on shitposting and try to keep up with the discussion.
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>>131530929
lol
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>>131530461

CIA niggers hack your WiFi router. Run them over in your car. They glow in the dark.
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>>131530590
Libreoffice is compromised by CIA.
OpenOffice is the best alternative.
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>>131530733
Nice assumptions you got there mate.
c4r3 70 5h0w m3 ur fkn badazz h4kk3r skillz?

Butthurt Windows moron.
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>>131530733


lol this
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>>131530908
Whatever distro you're using is just shit. Designate your own DE, you fucking dumbass. The possibilities are endless.
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>>131530605
When you're doing more than trivial spreadsheet stuff, Excel cannot be beat.
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>>131530966
>low effort post
this is why no one likes you on /g/ and don't respond to your post. You are the cancer that summer brings on.
>can't shitpost on /g/, so he comes to /pol/
pathetic
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You ever wondered why Windows users never open a thread bragging about "Windows masterrace"?
Because they actually have software that they can enjoy, while on Linux all you can do is open Firefox and shitpost on 4chan.
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>>131531019
You have to be 18 or older to post on this board, anon.
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>>131530991
>not using emacs for all your office needs
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>>131531070
LOL
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>>131531110
What's your fucking point anyways? Bet you're 12 yourself.
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>>131531091
Nigger, shitposting is the primary function of any consumer computer. You really enjoying your fucking spreadsheet software, huh? You're really into Minesweeper?
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Linux is gay
Use Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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>>131530800
Best security is to modulate your set up, so that if you MUST use a potentially compromised system you can choose what parts you allow to become compromised, and adjust things accordingly.
Multiple levels of security are a must. Also a good idea to not be 100% digital. Pretty hard to hack a physical journal.
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>>131531261
Fun Fact: Marlon Brando was an avid shitposter in the years leading up to his death
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>>131531182
People live normal lives faggot.
Not everyone has hours to learn cli tools.

The computer is not something humans must adapt to.
The computer is our tool.
The computer must be adapted to us.
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>>131531182
>Bet you're 12 yourself
Want to know how I know you're a teenager now?
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>>131530590
>pretty comfy
>>131530605
>overpriced turdery
industry standard to work that gives cero problems with old files is what I need, can you say that of what you choose to install with arch? [spoiler] no [/spoiler]
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>>131531274
Plan 9's concept is /comfy/-tier.
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>>131527264
tu tens a nocao que qualquer sistema baseado no linux (gento/ubuntu sao os que mais uso ) nao tem seguranca nenhuma certo? eles sao os mais vulneráveis e de seguida e qualquer so da microsoft ..
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>>131525835
Linux doesn't protect you. They have backdoors in everything.
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mexicanintellectuals.onion
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>>131528673
There it fucking is. And I'm the first to reply.
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>>131531348
>>The computer is not something humans must adapt to.
>The computer is our tool.
>The computer must be adapted to us.
That is literally the point of linux as a whole. This is why umpteen million distros exist.
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>>131525919
Interesting I did not know Linux was another symbol of white nationalism. It's everywhere
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>>131531348
Exactly. Which is why gentoo is the greatest operating system of all time.
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>>131531426
this.. most people fall for the meme o microsoft is always vulnerable .. meanwhile most linux server based systems are always down and they have to call it to fix it. lol
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>>131525835
>he thinks there is such thing as security from letter agencies

lmfao
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>>131531492
>>131531586
No, most of the linux community insists that a GUI is stupid and the cli is everything.
I love the cli, but realistically it's pretty shit for anyone that wants to use a computer, not study it.

>>131531530
topkek
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>not using TempleOS in the current year of our Lord
Fucking CIA niggers at it again
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>>131531530
Replace "macOS" with "templeOS"
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>>131525835
I use gnu/Linux since I'm not a pleb.
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>>131531530

>tfw macos is a shitty version of linux
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>>131531687
Are you posting from templeOS?
Screens?
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>>131531719
>2017'th year of our Lord
>not using TempleOS
pleb
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>>131531665
Which Linux community are you talking to? Have you ever seen a riced Windows or MacOS machine?
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What distro are we all using and why?
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i remember buying a 4 disc cdrom set of slackware 3.0 from cdrom.com back in 1996. using linux these days is a breeze compared to back then. they've made it so easy that i cringe when i see people attempting to brag about it.
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>>131531762
>he is on his way to understanding the meme is targetted at the nu-Linux crowd
Good lad.
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>>131531530
>fxd

>>131531665
All you really need to learn in the pipe command, man and flags. after that you can do what ever you want with ease. It took me about 4 hours to learn how to effectively lean CLI and has saved me literally a life time in work hours.
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>>131531915
Arch. I recognize gentoo is superior for portage package management, but I'm very comfortable with Arch. I can resolve any issues between upgrades within ten minutes or so.
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Convince me to use Linux and quit Windows, go.
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>>131532058
Not my fucking job, plebshit. How about you kill yourself?
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>>131531693
Replace "templeOS" with OS/2 Warp.
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>>131532058
Just keep using Windows 10 m8
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>>131531939

BSD has some impressive shit going for it, but you have to have taken CSIII to understand how to use it.
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>>131531915
Arch with openrc because I like pacman but hate systemd.
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>Oh look I use linux. I'm such a tech expert!
Fuck off
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>>131532175
>but you have to have taken CSIII to understand how to use it.
Just install the iso and use the man pages, pretty simple to get going actually
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>>131531799
>Which Linux community are you talking to?
What? The Linux one, obviously. The Arch community is the most cancerous though, honestly.

>>131531952
The cli is great, but it's for power users.
Ultimately, the best OS is one that you don't have to learn. You intuitively pick it up.
That's one of the reasons why iPhones did so well. Shit was obvious and clear from the start.
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>>131528970

Fucking disgusting. This is why I got out of IT, its full of autists and weirdos with no lives, and the tweeker normies who need drugs to compete with them.
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>>131525835
I use 10 for gaming and that's pretty much it.
Anyone trying to do any hacking isn't using windows obviously.
So far in my life I've had tons of interaction with linux from modding the first xbox to programming in it. I love it it's actually my favorite OS, I like mint the most, gaming in it sucks dick. And i'm not gonna let a 980ti and a 1080ti hybrid go to waste
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>>131532256
>Oh look I hide my flag. I'm such a faggot!
lel
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>>131532058
>Convince me
Not possible. You have to want to. It's a learning experience if you like it, and an absolute nightmare if you don't care.
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>>131532287
>over 2000 distribution of GNU + Linux
>The Linux One
eat shit
>>131532256
>brainlet
>ashamed of his country
hmmm, what did cucks mean by this?
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>>131531530
>macOS
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>>131531530
>MAC as top
This image is shit
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>>131532509
>eat shit
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>>131532058
youtube-dl
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>>131525835
How does one install Linux senpai? I was thinking about doing it today. Notice me desu.
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>>131525835
peasants begone
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>>131532679
>he saves reaction images on his computer
Yeah, you should probably stick to Windows.
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>>131532783
>openbsd on the desktop
only autists like yourself and theo do that
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>>131532755
Live boot CD/USB
install it on the hard drive
complie gentoo and install it
become an arch fag
Go the unbuntu route
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>>131525835
>What is Win 8 and XP
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>>131531915
Arch, it just werks
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>>131531586
seems like you're holding on to a meme
http://www.infoworld.com/article/3109830/linux/why-did-gentoo-linux-fade-into-obscurity.html
>ubuntu just works
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>>131532939
vulnerable
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>>131532138
>>131532160
>>131532450
>>131532754

>I love Linux and it's the best OS, but I can't tell you why you should use it rather than Windows 10.
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>>131525835
all linux versions you can get now are spyware. 1 is a fucking russian bitcon mining app made to look like a os
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>>131531530
Excellent b8, m8, really pissed off everyone here.

On the serious side, they might be worth looking at. Apple is now integrating external GPU with macOS, which would eliminate the "muh games" arguemnt.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/06/06/macos-high-sierra-external-gpu-valve/

>>131532794
Do you know where you are?
>>
Linux plebs BTFO. TempleOS underground
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>>131532881
it's like linux on the desktop, but everything actually just works
>>
Just use MacOS and you'll be 130% secure at all times.
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>>131525835

Linux breaks all the time in unpredictable ways and it is never obvious how to fix it unless you're a 400 lb hacker. You have to go on some rinky dink forum and some dick will say "RTFM all you have to do is go into bash and type rf +a ./etc/bin, so sick of people that don't read the manual"
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>>131525835

Thinking Muh Linux actually keeps you from being spied on. I'm sure there is software on your computer that gives agencies back doors
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>>131531766
A gentooman got networking on TempleOS a while back.
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>>131532995
Only if you use it like a normal OS
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>>131532755

do dis

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/

so u can learn and kno
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>>131533183
You're cute
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>>131533029
>Windows 10
Even macOS is better, Windows spies on literally every fucking thing you do on your machine now.
It's become Google OS
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>>131533076
>Do you know where you are?
Like I said, stick to Windows.
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>switch to fedora from windows
>mfw GNOME
how do I switch DEs? this is atrocious
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>>131525835
Dude, over half the people on here post their whole lives on facebook dating sites, twitter and do DNAs test for fun, to see if they are white or someshit.
you are preaching to the wrong people
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>>131525835
>he only know how to use windows
>implying Linux is difficult to use

It depends on the distro; most Ubuntu variants can be installed and used by a literal retard. I know someone with actual autism (it affects his memory and IQ--dude can't even hold down a clerk job because he can't give out correct change) that uses Linux Mint.
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>>131533036
Yes, an operating system is an "app", good goy. . .
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>>131533274
1. install debian netinstall ISO
2. upgrade to debian unstable
3. "sudo apt install xfce"
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>>131533220
Enjoy not playing any games and going to faggot coffee shops and sucking penis for a living, you hipster piece of shit. Don't you have some black cloths to be dressing in and a protest to be at throwing shit?
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>>131533274
probably use a lite install of fedora, then add whatever desktop you want
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>>131533245
Nah, I'll leave that for you

>>131533379
>muh computer is a political statement
A computer is a tool. Use it like one.
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>>131527347
been a chrome user for ages
i don't do anything "wrong" besides come here for lulz and look at normie porn
convince me to change to one of the god tiers
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>>131533220
MacOS is no more insecure than Windows
>>
>install arch as first real distro
>accidentally all the graphics card drivers
>learn to use a fucking command line web browser to reinstall them
Arch is pretty good once you learn wtf you're doing.
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>>131528209
Ah it's the most common kind of german. The
>i don't mind if some people race-mix, i don't own other people, they can do whatever they want.
>i don't care about skin color
>religion is for slaves, i only embrace truth and try to align with it by being conscious
You seriously need to get redpilled. You have the attitude of a leftist libertarian college student.
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>>131529722
delet
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>>131528810

oh yeah?

Wanna talk about music production?

If you wanna produce amateur shit, go ahead.

But anyone who is anyone in the music production scene uses Ableton/Massive

Martin Garrix is God
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>>131533522
lol, nice memory capacity, fucking poorfag.
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>>131533657
True, but it definitely has less spyware.
Windows will be turning into an advertising machine soon. They were experimenting with putting ads in the Start Menu and lock screen.
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>>131533522
my computer kicks the shit out of yours
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>>131533760
>>131533849
That's all you got?
What happened to the "muh windblows" argument? I'm not even using noobuntu.
Machine from 2011. Over a grand, and the memory is literally the only thing keeping it slow.
I haven't upgraded it bc I'll be getting a really nice-ass machine sometime this year.
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>>131533522
>flexing the whole thread
>those specs
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>>131533974
my hardware is new this year.
I didn't buy AMD
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>>131534034
>>flexing the whole thread
Absolutely not.
My machine is a piece of shit. I haven't needed to upgrade because Arch is so minimal. >>131533974
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>>131533274
Open whichever package manage fedora uses, install a new DE, log out, switch DE, log in.
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>>131533029
I don't waste time explaining to nu-flags bruh
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>>131525835
i play aaa games so can't put linux on my gaming computer, but i put it on my other computer for programming and linux is 1000 times better than windows for everything but gaming

if you don't game and you're good with command lines, consider linux
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>>131534171
thanks friend
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>>131533779
Yeah, mine has ads because I don't pay for the OS.
you can download and use win10 for free.
but i don't do anything on this pc other then browse the internet on my neighbors wifi and play games.
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>>131534034
>>131533849
>>131533760
Haw haw real mature guys! I bet he still can do/does more with his computer than you windrones. 8gb of ram is fine.
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>>131533522
>8 GB RAM
>i7
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>>131534257
Pretty much this. You can also duel boot.
>>131534284
I use linux too please read before you triple click posts you reddit shit
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>>131534257
You should consider GPU passthrough to a Windows vm.
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>>131533274
>>131534275
>sudo dnf install @kde-desktop
if you hated gnome, you'll like kde

or rice it out in i3
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>>131533029
>Using a literal certified botnet
>Not customizing what you want on your computer
>Letting them update whatever they want onto your computer
>Not using the superior Windows 7 (if you want to be a windowsfag)

Anon, just stop right now.
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>>131534311
>2011 machine

>>131534284
kek it's fine, thanks.
OS wars are more passionate than religious arguments.
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>>131534346
I ain't about to read all your shitposts to stay caught up on who uses what, my point still stands, 8gb is fine. Sorry I called you a windrone, that reddit stang.
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>>131533522
>8gb of ram
lel you're like a baby
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>>131534378
i need direct x 12 for some games, and it's very sketchy so i won't bother
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>>131534502
what are you even using 8gb ram for on a linux
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>>131525835
Nothing is secure anymore.
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>>131525835
fuckn idiot cos linux won't read my netscape diskette fuckin idiot
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>>131525835
Open sores fags are absolutely delusional. What makes you think that professionals are going to work for free when they could be selling their labor for money?
Literally communism tier thinking.
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>>131534654
multiple virtual machines and consoles running simultaneously
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>>131534449
Having only 8gb if you're using a 64 bit machine is plain stupid. It's also stupid having a meme processor like i7, which is literally an overclocked i5.
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>>131535074
>selling their labor for money
what is the BSD master race?
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>>131535187
careful with all those VMs dude, don't open up a wormhole, you leafs are straight north of us
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>>131535074
>What makes you think that professionals are going to work for free when they could be selling their labor for money?

The fact that they already do.

When you're talented, making good software isn't hard, microshill.
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>>131535187
ahh why do you need that again?
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>>131527347
Ok, I'm giving Iridium a try, anon. I use Chrome at the moment like a good goy.
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>>131535281
Well, it's held up for 6 years, so I call that a good investment.
No point in buying more RAM when I'll be trashing the machine soon.
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>>131534654
I have 96G on my linux servers at work.
8 is on the low end these days.
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>>131535281
why the fuck are you running that takes more than 8gb on a linux?
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>>131528209
by allah you unironically mean what you post

kys faggot
>>
>>131535429
ye but are you running servers at home?
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>>131535352
3d / video rendering and network mapping mostly
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>>131534502
i usually have 6 console windows discord and a browser on 6gb of ram no problem
>>
Linux for basic non-programmers is not hard.

People just don't want to remember shell commands and the such, a shame, what is a good minimal gnu/linux distrib which is bare bones (mainly just a shell and not much else, from there i can install what i want)? Ive been on windows a few years cause of work.
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>>131535555
fair point whats network mapping?
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>>131534654
It's just enough for Chromium desu.
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>>131525835
>Building the kernel instead of the wall
>>
>>131533522


Get RAM moar!
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>>131535437
Video games and programming stuff.
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>>131535539
no, but my home pc (when i used to run linux) also used 8g ram. my mac has 8g ram.
why hung up on having 8gigs of ram? 8 gigs was "high end" a full 10 years ago, now everyone has it.
i code, watch shows, run java apps (market trading), browse the interwebs. i'd do this no matter what os i was running.
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>>131527347
>C#
You mean Java?
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>>131534502

Is this more to your approval?
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>>131535640
Try using some actually demanding software then get back at me. You've already used 75% at normal operating capacity, you can see how 8gb is now barely enough in these days. In 5 years 8gb will be what's on your smartwatch

>>131535711
>whats network mapping
search it m8, scanning ranges of networks and figuring out what connects where
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>>131536063
ye i just figured 8gb ram seems like a reasonable amount for the avg user
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>>131535981
http://www.downloadmoreram.com/download.html
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>>131536121
Tad better, rams so cheap tho...
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>>131535709
>what is a good minimal gnu/linux distrib which is bare bones (mainly just a shell and not much else, from there i can install what i want)? Ive
Anything that comes with a netinstall iso
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>>131525835
Haven't read any of the thread but you are an idiot. There are processor level backdoors in intel processors nowadays that record data and allow entities like the NSA access to your system. Something at the hardware level goes "under" the OS and it therefore doesn't matter what OS you use, you're still vulnerable.

>Mexican intellectuals
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>>131536279
>theoretical horseshit. stop being a nigger.
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>>131536086
>C# is the same as Java
In what universe? C# is just the retard offspring Bill Gates shat out to make coding more accessible to normies. It's a shit language.
>>
>he thinks he is safe just because he uses linux
loling @ your life.
>>
>>131536086
Oracle Owns Java. Windows uses C#
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>>131536814
C# doesn’t even have wrapper objects for primitives. Deal breaker for me
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>>131536616
There is nothing theoretical about Intel Management Engine.
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>>131536616
it's a half truth.
both intel and amd have out-of-band processor management systems. They aren't even secrets. They were designed for remote management of server farms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Active_Management_Technology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Platform_Management_Architecture
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>>131535074

Because they enter into a group of likeminded Foss enthusiasts who will also provide software for free. Its mutually beneficial.
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>>131535074
>build open source library
>put ads on your website
>make $3000-$6000 a month on ads
>community keeps library up to date for free
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>>131527347
>>131535377
Thanks anon, me likey so I'm sticking to Iridum from now on.
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>>131528673
Richard pls go
>>
Anyone privacy conscious should take basic precautions beyond their OS.
All routers are inherently insecure as manufacturers are untrustworthy. Flashing OpenWRT or some other secure firmware is a requirement.
Never browse outside of a virtualized environment with randomized hardware IDs.
Always use a VPN with a proven track record against law enforcement.
Browsers often betray information about you as they answer version/OS queries on demand. If you have to keep using Firefox/Chromium-based browsers at least disable all scripts.

Then again, you always have to assess the adversary's means. If you somehow get yourself targeted by an agency, you are fucked more likely than not.
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>>131537867
I saw Richard Stallman at a grocery store in Boston yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
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>>131528673
i only came into the thread to post this if it hadn't already been posted
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>>131538100
This is old skool /b/ type material.
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>>131526079
You can't possibly be stupid enough to believe that Linux is lacking in software, can you? Are you a time traveler from a decade ago or something? Or are you just a gaming fag who thinks because some of your favorite games aren't on Linux that it's a shitty OS?

Holy fuck anon, most of the world literally runs on Linux in case you weren't aware of that. Fucking jackass.

And if we're talking just regular day-to-day type software (as in not beyond general usage), it's actually better to be on Linux in most cases BY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE.
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>>131528209
I don't even know where to begin. Everytime a german posts, it's just bluepilled drivel.
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>>131527347
i use torch. overall i'm happy with its features, as for the ads, just use a goddamn adblocker. it's not that bad.

>>131525835
I do have to sage because this has nothing to do with /pol/. try >>>/g/
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>>131538813
>And if we're talking just regular day-to-day type software (as in not beyond general usage), it's actually better to be on Linux in most cases BY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE.
With the exception of h264 working in browsers. No HW acceleration yet.
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>>131525835
B-but muh games
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>>131525835
It's runs good in a VM on a Windows host, the other way around, forget it. Under the hood Windows is a much more complex and matured system. Linux is successful because it is free and simple to configure.
>>
> Complains about security problems
> Still probably uses Intel CPU with IME

Kike get an ARM board /w GNU
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>>131539240
h264 hardware acceleration works for me in Chromium style browsers in Debian atm very smoothly but that's not exactly the case for everyone obviously. Lots of factors go into it. It's working well for quite a fuck load of people currently though, in case you missed the memo.

Regardless though, it's not as if most people are going to be unable to watch Netflix or YouTube etc.
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>>131533849
Is your computer robocop by any chance
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>not using templeos
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>>131538100

Haven't seen this pasta for years.
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>>131539932
Well, C-50 APU because poor. HW acc works fine in standalone players so I'm currently using baka mplayer. I just paste links into it and youtube_dl passes through with HW acc. I think it might be a question of nvidia kikery at play. They fucked up gnome 3 by implanitng devs that used non-standard opengl stuff that is nvidia proprietary.
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>>131528810
this

only gay white suburban n00bs use windows for music production

real thug rap techno niggas use windows linux
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>>131525835
Windows has a better interface and support from popular products and games. It works as a dumb client, for serious work I connect to linux or bsd servers. All the attention from burger agents is flattering.
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>>131540393
Nvidia kikery has plagued me for years in GNU/Linux ffs. Unfortunately, it's not really surprising.

I actually haven't even used gnome for about a year now which is definitely outside the norm for me if you consider the entire previous decade beforehand.

There's still agarillion Linux APIs which can make things a little annoying but it's a completely different animal now than it was going back even just a few years. Always improving.

One thing I can say though, is that most regular people who are too afraid to even open up a terminal prompt can use a variety of flavors of Linux these days without trouble.

On a side note, I was asked by a guy a few days ago who was watching me on my office computer "what program" I was using... I was using CentOS, and I couldn't make him understand that CentOS wasn't a Windows program, it was a totally different OS. Nothing I could say could get through to him haha. At one point he asked me if I could "close Cent for a minute and open up IE so he can check his email before lunch". I almost slapped him literally.
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>>131541863
>if you consider the entire previous decade beforehand
I pine for the days of gnome 2.x
hnnng
XFCE is almost a good substitute
>people who are too afraid to even open up a terminal prompt can use a variety of flavors of Linux these days without trouble
true
>On a side note...
I rarely encounter such a problem. Either I'm in contact with people who learned most of computer stuff by themselves and at least know what linux is or I deal with people who are 'monkey click tiny pictures' people in which case I speak slowly and in very short sentences when computers are a theme of the day. I even gained some notoriety in office last time the router sperged cause I rebooted it through the web interface instead of running all the way down the hall and resetting it physically :)
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