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Does /pol/ support gay marriage?

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Why or why not?
Has same sex marriage been legalized in your country?
Do you think it will be?
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>>131509318
Marriage is for procreation, thus any marriage by sexual devients is void.
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>>131509446
This, what the fuck is the point of financially and legally binding yourself to another person if not to create offspring? The only reason they do it is cause "muh feelings look at us and how normal we are we're just like straights" hooo shit fuck off.
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>>131509635
Marriage is a religious institution fuckwit, it should be up to the church to decide, whole procreation is possible it is permitted.
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>>131509318
No. Of course not. The marriage is the basic building block of the family and to fulfil its social and biological purpose must be between a man and a woman. Fags can have civil unions and be happy with them.

Not yet. Our left and centre-left parties managed to get the prospect of a national plebiscite on gay marriage shot down so they could continue to use it as an electoral issue.

Probably. Don't think the pendulum will swing back fast enough for this one. Hope I'm wrong though.
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no gays are icky
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>>131509318
>Does /pol/ support gay marriage?

Ofc, gay means happy. I just don't support FAGGOTS getting married.
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>>131509738
But marriage is no longer a religious institution - straight couples are able to get legally married without any input from the church
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>>131509907
Good point about the plebiscite, I fully agree that labor doesn't care about this happening, they just want to be able to use it to get themselves into power.

Another question, if the plebiscite had been held, do you think it would have passed?
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>>131510144
Lol then it isn't really marriage it's a legal bond like civil partnership
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>>131509738
>marriage is a religious institution
>all major religious scripture explicitly states being gay is an act against God
huh
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>>131510299
Not really, at least in Australia, there are legal differences between a marriage and a civil union, albeit small ones, especially when it comes to division of property in the even of divorce and such
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Not legal in Germany but most parties obviously want to make it legal. It's a difficult topic, because the ruling parties have to pander to the leftists as much as to the Muslims.
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>>131510452
But why can't civil partnerships have equal powers as marriage without chanfingers the definition of marriage.
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>>131510488
For some reason this made me chortle for a good while, thanks.
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>>131510626
But if they were the same, would there be any reason to call them two different things?
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don't really care
tiny fraction of gays ever get married and gays are already a tiny fraction of society
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>>131510947
Your kidding right? As I stated marriage is a religious institution and should be reserved for straight couples within the church, if someone wants a civil partnership somewhere else have it but don't call it marriage.
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The only thing I support about faggots is their right to die in a fire
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>>131511081
Sorry, didn't realise you were the same guy after you changed your flag. Are you saying then that you would prefer that every "marriage" taking place outside of a church was called a civil union, with that term being reserved for a religious marriage?
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>>131511123
K anon
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>>131511285
Yes, besides the process is difervent.
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>>131509318

Honestly, I could not give a fuck if two dudes or two chicks get married. Who am I to deprive them the misery of marriage that the rest of us have to deal with?
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>>131511285
Unless venues are now turned into churches
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>>131510144
Nope. You either swore before your God to be with that person until death do you part or you're just living in sin.
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>>131509738
and divorce are not allowed by the church either but you don't see people making a fuss there.
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>>131511370
Right, but in that scenario, a religious marriage would have no legal bearing, and any couple would also need to get a civil union
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>>131509318
>No
>Homosexuals are degenerate and account for over 50% of pedophiles despite barely being 1% of the population. In addition they do not breed and spread STDs, propogating white genocide and disease
>no
>not on my fucking watch
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>>131510275
Most likely.

The (((polls))) would suggest almost certainly but Australia does have a tendency toward being conservative with referendums and there have been some massive electoral upsets recently.
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>>131511563
What country is that, just out of interest?
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>>131511123
Hey that's what I support too! :)
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>>131509318
>Does /pol/ support gay marriage?
Yes.
>Why or why not?
It's 2017. Also the logical next step to progress to is polygamous and incestuous marriage. It's something LGBT doesn't want to support for some fucking reason (probably because they are too afraid of upsetting conservatives over the top and looking "too degenerate")
In the future (sooner than you think) there will be a movement for polygamous marriage and it WILL become legal whether you like it or not.
>Has same sex marriage been legalized in your country?
No.
>Do you think it will be?
Never this country is riddled with religious fanatics.
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>>131511551
Sorry?
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>>131509318

No. At best I'll tolerate it, simply because there are bigger fish to fry at the moment.
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no, you fucking faggots
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>>131511551
No. You'd just say that marriage by the appropriate religious official automatically confers legal union but vice versa does not apply.
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Marry them then hang them.
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>>131511638
Also note that white genocide isn't a white only issue, us chinks outside of the communist shitheap that is china are also suffering from the same problem.
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>>131509318
They should be able to have a serious relationship, but not a real marriage.
They don't produce children, they don't help ensuring the country's future. They should absolutely not get tax cuts etc. associated with marriage.
>inb4 not all hetero couples get children
Yes and those should also not receive the tax benefits. Exactly right senpai.
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>>131511681
Nevermind,
>>131511759
pretty much covers it
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>>131511759
Exactly pretty simple really...
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>>131511871
Why does pol now change f a m into senpai? Teh fuck?
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>>131511935
How new are you?
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>>131509635
In germany, there are certain financial benefits for marriage. F.e. a married couple can give their child an inhetitance of 500.000€ tax free, while unmarried people can only give up to 20.000 tax free.
Or married couples with far different incomes can benefit too when paying taxes in general
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>>131509318
Gays are degenerate sub humans that are pushed in media to lower public morals and used as a tool to break down religion and common human decency. There should be no support for them in any way, shape or form beyond basic human rights and protections - ie its not right to be beating them in teh streets with no reprecussions basically. But they dont get to marry. They dont get to abuse adopted children with their degeneracy. Nothing.
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>>131509318
No
It's nothing more than a fetish and as such it doesn't constitute the rights of marriage
Yes
N/A
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You filthy Jews keep trying to debase our beautiful continent, but BEGONE.
We are the chosen of Christ.
Every homosexual deviant will die.
I will personally undertake the Will of GOD
No Reprobate will be suffered to live in the Land of Christ
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>>131512272
I propose this: Fags will be allowed to exist, and will be legal, but fag behavior will be illegal and punishable by death. Fags will still be allowed to remain celibate or to engage in heterosexual behavior. Trannies will be shot in public or at best locked up in a psychiatric ward for life.
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>>131512272
Wow I'm already anti-gay but some of those still sounded outrageous, sure enough I look it up and they're even worse than I thought. Wew.
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Celebrating my two year anniversary with my husband today. It's been a good life. We can now file our taxes jointly and receive all the benefits any other couple would receive.
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>>131512451
its not, actually

t. not even in support of gay marriage
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>>131512789
Only 4.5% of gay men don't cheat on their partner, I'd check his phone.
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>>131512789
You pay less taxes if you are separated.
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>>131512991

We're actually very open with our phones. I don't have any suspicions. It's entirely positive for a /k/ommando and a /v/irgin to have a love affair for the ages.
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>>131509318
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>>131512991
that seems a little excessive even for gays, im having a hard time believing that
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>>131512563
>allowing me to exist legally
hey thanks man
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>>131509318
I do not support gay marriage because our laws have an axiomatic relationship with christian values that is often left unmentioned nowadays. Breaking up this relationship and defining marriage as a purely civil contract between consenting parties would lead to several problems. These are incest and polygamy. In Germany there was already a case of a brother and sister succesfully making their case in front of the European Court for Human Rights. Their relationship was accepted under the premise that they stop producing children. The next big push will come from the Muslims who will demand their harem.
Another problem with granting gay marriage is that it will have a demoralizing effect on those who hold traditional values. Why should Christians fight for a society that doesn't want their beliefs? As a result the muslims with high morale will sooner or later take over.

The most important reason though is the further resulting disassociation of law and christian values. The idea that humans are free is a christian ideal that was postulated as an objective fact for all humans. There will come a point in our society when the disassociation of christian ideals and the law will reach a point where even this first and fundamental ideal will get question. We already see signs of this with SJW saying that not fucking a tranny is bigoted and not fucking a negro or arab is racist.
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>>131513485
kek
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>>131513729
As long as you do not engage in homosexual behavior (includes homosexual sex, homosexual kissing, etc.) you are free to exist as you please. That's the fairest way to combat degeneracy while also recognizing homosexuals as human beings and giving them a choice to be clean.
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>>131509446

SEX is for procreation, sweetheart. Marriage is for familial stability.

>>131509635

lmfao the retards in this thread.
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>>131513743
>straight marriage must be between one man and one woman
>civil union can be any other shit with the same legal benefits
not sure if it would work but i bet theres some solution that can be made.
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>>131513919
The fuck does it matter?
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>>131511991
I've been here since 2007, on /pol/ since 2013, but i've never posted anything with f a m until now.
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>>131509318
I don't support gay marriage because gay marriage doesn't support anything or anyone
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>>131513743
>christian values
No such thing. Christianity takes undue credit for the good things and exascerbates the bad things.
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>>131513673
Honestly me too until I looked it up. It's an older study so take it how you will https://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity
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>>131514075
>gays don't get gay married
>durr
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There is no such thing as "gay marriage"; just because you can create phrases like "round square" or "solid gas" or "gay marriage" doesn't make them signify anything real. Gays always had the right to get married, just like straights. What they were pushing for (and got in many places) was a new right that nobody ever had--the right to be married to someone of the same sex. Now both gays and straights have the right to be married, like they always had, and the right to this secondary, pseudo-marriage to someone of the same sex. But that's not marriage, no matter what you call it, it's an imitation of marriage.
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>>131509318
No i dont support Gay marriage, but if two people want to enter a domestic partnership be it for emotional or financial reasons. IE you have a room mate, the government should look at it all the same on paper. Marriage is a religion things, it should be up to the church on who is "married" the government should not even be worried about male or female.

Morally, no because i dont support gays in their current iteration in our generation. When it was simply, "Hey i like to fuck dudes and i just dont wanna get killed because of it." Thats fine, not "Im gay you have to accept my way of life or your a bigot!"
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>>131514068
F a m has been wordfiltered to senpai since /pol/ harbor.
T b h is also filtered to desu and C U C K (in all caps) is filtered to KEK
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>>131514091
This is what happens when you apply straight standards and presumptions to gay men.
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>>131513906
Of course the retard in this thread is Canadian
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>>131509318

The liberal in me says I don't care what you faggots do to each other.

The dad in me says Fuck you faggots for fucking with kids.

You need to be gassed alone with the fucking jew.
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>>131513919
>>131513974

Because 'separate but equal' has failed before. You can call them 'civil unions' but then all standing legislature that specifically states "Marriage" won't apply in a legal loophole. Ultimately, just calling them both 'marriage' provides them both with the same legal rights. If it's such an issue with the religious background, then all partnerships would need to be called "civil unions."
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>>131514128
>lalalala I can't hear you
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>>131514229
Fuck off retard
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>>131514084
That pic is inaccurate, Mecca is halfway down the coast of Saudi
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>>131514241
>Fuck you faggots for fucking with kids
The female equivalent of you is a feminist who hates men because they're rapists
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No, it's not a "right" since our cave idiot ancestors raped their mates. All hospitals and other agencies have to do is make a tweek to that "immediate family" rule amd they dont need to fet married anymore.
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>>131514412
Difference here is that fags account for less than 1% of the population and still account for over 50% of pedophiles. Men don't, and on top of that they don't organize rape organizations and march around streets chanting about making rape legal.
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>>131514372
Your reading is inaccurate. Mecca is the birthplace of Mohammed, not an action of god.
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>>131514574
That's not relevant, you fucking retard. Individuals are not responsible for the actions of other individuals in their demographic.
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>>131509318
The purpose of marriage is to keep a man and woman loyal to each other in order to raise children. Any other purpose is perversion.
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>>131509318
No.

By a plebiscite, only the normative marriage is constitutional.

Not in my lifetime, unless a revolt happens and reds win.
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>>131514574
>Gays organize chold molestation organizations and march around streets chanting about making child molestation legal.

Cite a source for that one you dumb fuck
also prove it representative of the demographic
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>>131514654
>Individuals are not responsible for the actions of other individuals in their demographic.
Too bad that the reality of life is that people look at what the majority does, and not what the minority doesn't. If niggers account for 50% of violent crime and 50% of their males will be incarcerated at some point in their lifetime then I think the problem is niggers and not anything else.
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>>131509318
What happens between two consenting adults is none of anyone's fucking business. That said, whites need to make babies.
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>>131514683
>personal happiness and fulfillment including community building enabled by stable partnership is perversion

Someone needs to send all you Christcucks and Islamocunts to an island and just let you kill each other.
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>>131514782
Look up NAMBLA. North American Man Boy Love Association. Stupid fucking leaf.
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>>131510144
If marriage is not for procreation and raising a family, then what is the point?
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>>131514858
Hey look, a not-a-retard.
Welcome.
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>>131509318
NONONONONO
Gay marriage ruiened our country. Bisexual and trans middle schoolers is becoming normal. We made a huge mistake with this one.
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>>131514973
I said prove it representative.
If NAMBLA is representative of gays then radical feminism is representative of women, and if you believe that you can go fuck yourself.
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>>131514782
>pedo demgraphic
http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/a02rStatistcs.html
>33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7).
>Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19).
>73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9).
>Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality" (22).
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>>131515154
>b-but they aren't representative
And they don't account for all gay pedophiles. Only some of them. That's where your false equivalency with feminism falls flat, because feminism is a): an idea created by jews and b): an ideology, whereas pedophilia is a state of mind and a fetish.

Once again, a fucking leaf.
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>>131515026
I'm with you on the trans issue, but do you have any evidence that legalizing same sex marriage had any effect on it?
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>>131515202
>>33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7).
minor as in younger than the age of consent or as in yonger than 18?

>73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9).
shocking!!!!
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>>131515638
Check the source you stupid fucking leaf. Everything's been handed to you on a silver platter.

"Under 19 years of age" includes children and teenagers by the way. Even then having sex with teenagers just past the age of consent is still morally wrong.
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>>131515979
>traditioninaction.org
that's like citing the daily mail as a proper news source

>Even then having sex with teenagers just past the age of consent is still morally wrong.

That's your opinion.
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>>131516278
>that's like citing the daily mail as a proper news source
Are you even trying you dumb fuck? The sources for all those statistics are at the bottom of the page.

>j-just your opinion
Why are you even here if you don't support morality or traditionalism? Fuck off to >>>/r/eddit.
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>>131516442
>It is not enough that I should choose to live my life by my own rules, others must abide by them too.
A fascist indeed.
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>>131516774
>others should abide by rules which historically speaking have been beneficial to society
Oh god the horror! Fascist anti-semite nazi white supremacist racist homophobe transphobe! If I call him what he wears on his flag proudly then maybe he'll feel insulted!

Lmao, fuck off to /r/antifa.
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>>131516983
>antifa
Far from it. I'm acutually a moderate conservative. Fascists ignite the same hate in me as do communists. Filth like you exists for the sole purpose of destroying freedom and prosperity and that's what the West stands for. Maybe you would feel more at home in Saudi Arabia. Or ISIS, they seem to hate the same things you hate.
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I "support" it, i.e. I don't really care.

As long as the govt. is involved, I don't see reason for it to be legitimately denied.

If the govt. wasn't involved in marriage? Then I could see reason for churches to deny them.
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if some faggots wanna get married then I think why not but all this "gay pride" shit is just taking it too far.
No one fucking cares, you literal fags.
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>>131517842
If you guys had held a referendum instead of the supreme court deciding the matter, would you have voted in it?
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>>131517725
>MUH FREEDUMBS
Ah, you don't understand the first thing about fascism then. Gotcha.

Enjoy your FREEDUMBS when your society degrades into a degenerate mess and the jews control your media and state, again.
>MUH UR JUST LIKE MUDSLIMES
Correction: I don't worship a goatfucking pedophile and I do not consider him "the perfect man". Neither do I believe in the principles of Jihad or any other shitskin drivel. So once again more false equivalence from the social left.
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no, duh
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>>131509318
No, fag/dyke marriage has no purpose to it other than to serve the feelings of leftist retards. Faggot and dyke marriage wants to destroy the family which is vital part of western society, thus fag and dyke marriage is a threat to western civilization.

It's also really funny to see them cry and get mad refusing them their "rights." Fuck them. Homosexuals are subhuman pieces f shit.
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>>131518194
>MUH JEWS CONTROL EVERYTHING
>MUH FASCISM WORKS
>MUH HITLER WAS RIGHT

I honest to God hope your a dumb 15 year old.
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>>131518683
>MUH JEW DINDU NUFFIN
I can't believe it's the JIDF!
>FASICSM DOESN'T WORK GOY
Tell that to the german economic miracle of the 1930s lmao
>HITLER WAS AN EVIL MAN REMEMBER THE 66 TRILLION
We /shillforisrael/ now.
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>>131518683
lol lurk more or gtfo out of /pol/
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Like many of you I am totally against this degenerate gay shit, but if we want to win, we have to play the meta game.

Think about it: Islam will always be against gay marriage. So if we give more rights to gays, the islamists will rage and show their true self. That when we can wake up the masses.
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>>131519350
we have to get rid of the jews first if we want to get rid of the mudslimes
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>>131518845
>Tell that to the german economic miracle of the 1930s lmao
Tell that to the post-war democracy german economic miracle lmao
>HITLER WAS AN EVIL MAN REMEMBER THE 66 TRILLION
No, remember the dozens of millions of white europeans Hitler murdered, the entire nations the war he caused destroyed and how his madness cucked us for centuries to come. Hitler was the worst thing to happen to this continent since the barbarian invasions.
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>>131519512
>muh post war miracle
Didn't occur in a span of 6 years and certainly didn't cause birthrates to skyrocket like never before.
>MUH MILLIONS OF WHITE EUROPENS
Protip: Hitler didn't start the war, and kikes aren't white, and the holohoax is zionist garbage. But nice try with your standard shill rhetoric I guess.
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>>131519748
>kikes aren't white
I wasn't refering to jews. White europeans, including his own people.
>Hitler didn't start the war
Yes he did, by invading Poland. Cause and effect. Had he remained within his borders without trying to take sovereign, independent nations by force, nothing would have happened.
>holohoax is zionist garbage
Exagerated? Maybe. Lie? Get that tinfoil hat on.
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>>131509318
No
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>>131520520
>by invading poland
I wonder why he did that?
>muh holohoax is real
>stop pointing out that no german documents exist proving mass extermination of any sort or that no autopsies of any sort have ever surfaces
LMAO
Truly JIDF in here
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>>131520886
>>stop pointing out that no german documents exist proving mass extermination of any sort or that no autopsies of any sort have ever surfaces
Yes, and let's ignone the mountains of documents proving otherwise too.

>implying nazis woudn't have destroyed records of them commiting war crimes before being captured
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>>131521369
Mountains of documents from who? Soviets? LMAO.
>muh they destroyed the documents
This meme is old and stale. They never had the time to destroy the documents before their defeat. Furthermore all deaths and details of the camps were recorded by the International Red Cross Committee who never found any evidence of gas chambers designed for exterminating humans OR of any sort of mass extermination at all.

Nice try JIDF, your shit memes won't fool me.
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>>131509318
Two people exchanging vows with a witness is TRUE marriage in the most conservative sense, and this common law tradition goes back to before the Norman Conquest of England.

If two fags swear vows with a witness or two, that's fine by me. However, this doesn't mean that Christian churches need to go along with it. The federal government does not need to be involved and furthermore should not be allowed to be involved in the marriage question.
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>>131521733
>mountains of documents goy! mountains of documents!
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>>131521369
>>131521733
>>131522031
>only antisemites would believe that the holocaust is a hoa-
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>>131521369
>>131521733
>>131522031
>>131522206
>truly, all the jews believe in the 66 gorillion, look, these survivor testimonies confirm it
>https://youtu.be/YVmIaBW-HjI
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>>131521733
>They never had the time to destroy the documents before their defeat.
>I know because I was there.
They didn't have time to pile up those documents and set them on fire? It's ot like the allied troops just appeared magically on their door step. They knew they were going to be hanged, so I assume they found time in their busy schedule to eliminate the proof. Even Hitler had enough time to kill himself and have his body burned to ashes.
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>>131509318
Honestly don't give a shit as long as it's between consenting adults.

People who think that tolerance of homosexuality is a threat to the continued survival of Humanity are quite literally retarded.

Besides, honestly lads, when was the last time a gay/lesibian ran over a bunch of civvies in a truck or detonated a nail bomb in a crowded marketplace to promote their identity?
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>>131521369
>>131521733
>>131522031
>>131522206
>>131522336
>h-holocaust denial? just pseudoscience! pure pseudoscienc-
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p133_mattogno.html

>>131522446
>They knew they were going to be hanged, so I assume they found time in their busy schedule to eliminate the proof
Most of them weren't even aware of there being any sort of extermination you dumb fuck. Majority of modern historians admit that the Holocaust was at best orchestrated by Adolf Eichmann and Heinrich Himmler. Also note that any sort of grand massacre would require hundreds of thousands of documents in order to pull off perfectly, and burning that many documents in any amount of time is no easy feat. Surely out of the 1100 tons of german documents seized by Allied forces, at least 1 or 2 should mention some sort of mass extermination right?

Except that none of them do. Which makes your argument complete bullshit.
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>>131522446
>>131522767
Also please do note that a large majority of the "nazi war criminals" were never hanged, they either escaped the trials, were allowed to escape to the US under things like Operation Paperclip, or lived the rest of their lives in solitude or in prison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Axis_personnel_indicted_for_war_crimes

So no, even more bullshit. Kill yourself, you're one of the least convincing shills I've ever seen.
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>>131523166
>lso please do note that a large majority of the "nazi war criminals" were never hanged
I didn't say they were hanged. I said they thought they were going to be hanged.

When you say the holocaust is a lie, just think about the millions of people that would have to be involved in covering it up.Every single one of those people would have to consistently lie for the entirety of their lives. It's not feasible and it's not possible. It's just as stupid as saying 9/11 was an inside job, only stupider.
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>>131509446
>marriage is for procreation

You're allowed to get married on your deathbed. Since when has it been compulsory for you to be able to have kids (or to even want to have them) before you can marry?
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>>131523809
>When you say the holocaust is a lie, just think about the millions of people that would have to be involved in covering it up.
Buddy, you're clearly either incredibly naive or don't know anything on exactly how goddamn powerful the kikes are. And plenty of these "holocaust survivors" have been called out as liars in it for the shekels. So no, that's complete bullshit. More pathetic shilling from JIDF's first day on the job.
>muh 9/11 wasn't an inside job
Look up WTC7 fuckface.
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>>131523809
>>131524101
>b-but wouldn't there be some telling the truth
There are, see >>131522336. Video testimonies from ex-inmates.
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>>131510144
And that's a mistake.
The state isn't God.
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Yes. I'm gay and it will make emigration easier.
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>>131509318
>just
fuck my shit up senpai
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I honestly couldn't give a fuck if gays are able to get marriage certificates and reap the tax benefits. It's all financial.
Good fucking luck getting married in a church/ chapel though. That's not up to any government to legislate.

TBQH the whole debate about gay marriage is just a way to keep the sheep occupied and arguing amongst themselves instead of trying to come up with a real mandate.

Why bother changing things and coming up with new ideas for the country when you can keep the whole population foaming at the mouth EACH. AND. EVERY. YEAR.
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>>131514227
>loyalty in a relationship
>straight standards
hahaha wow fuck the gays
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>>131509318

If homos want to be as miserable as every other married couple then I say let em have it
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>>131509318
I don't support it, but I'm not against it.
Marriage is a religious institution so to me it depends on the religion in question, not the government.
If catholics with their boot licking pope want to recognize fag marriage then I guess fags can be married in the eyes of the church.
If say orthodoxy on the other hand refuses to recognize it then I guess in the eyes of the orthodox church fags can't marry.

As for something like a civil union where 2 people can voluntarily sign an agreement and from then on file taxes jointly I see no problem here. Under no circumstances should they be allowed to raise kids though. Children need both a masculine and feminine figure in their life to become well rounded individuals
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>>131509318
JUST
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>>131525636
>Marriage is a religious

but that's wrong if you fucking retard.
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>>131511563
>>Homosexuals are degenerate and account for over 50% of pedophiles despite barely being 1% of the population.
Please source me!
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>>131509318
I used to not care about gay marriage. But the older I get the more I feel like it is a mistake. Marriage isn't about love or romance, it is about making a family. That should ideally be a man and a woman who are pledged to one another for life so that they can raise their biological children. No one will love your own child as much as you. I even have a friend who married a woman who had a kid. Earlier Dad was a no show so he was Dad to this child. He had children of his own with his wife but even he admitted that it was easier to 'love' his own biological children.
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>>131509318
>Does /pol/ support gay marriage?
/pol/ are cucks
I do not support.
>Do you think it will be?
depends on the society's mood.
Like two weeks ago, one of our politicians died. He was gay.
Everybody remembered how good man he was.
Last week news came out that he was HIV infected.
mixed feelings in society
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>>131509318
last time they did a gay parade we threw rocks and chased them with crosses
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>>131525895
See >>131515202
I can't find the 50% statistic in particular, that one seems to have gone missing but plenty more of homo pedo related stuff can be found there.
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>>131509318
If you want a fag wedding then go make your own Homo religion.
The first time you cunts desecrate a Catholic Church I'm dedicating the rest of my life to killing every fucking poofter in Perth.
Log my IP. Lock me up. I'm fucking done letting you perverts run amok.
That's my red line, and I know plenty of blokes who feel the same.
Bring it on faggots.
I'm quite happy to die for Christ.
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>>131525813
If you want a religious ceremony performed in a religion-owned building, by a religious figurehead then you can damn well expect them to be able to refuse to perform the ceremony.
I wouldn't want to be married in a mosque and they would rightly tell me to fuck off, why would people with religious beliefs contrary to the religion demand to be married by them?
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Gays will tell you that their marriage won't affect you. That's a complete lie.

You will be forced to accept whatever gender bullshit they push with absolutely no criticism tolerated.

I live in Ontario - which may be the worst place in the world for this shit.

Don't agree with your son wanting to cut his genitals off? Your kids will be taken away.

For the whole month of June pride flags displayed in absolutely every public place of note.

The schools teach third graders about the joys of anal sex with a curriculum written by (no joke) a guy who was found to possess child porn.

It's against the law to call a transgender person by any pronoun other than the one they want.

If this stuff isn't accepted where you are, fight to make sure it isn't - give them an inch in the name of fairness and they'll take a mile.
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>>131509318
Not in Glorious nation of Northern Ireland, and thanks to Tory-DUP deal it never will be.
Fags BTFO
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>>131525813
Technically your right, originally it was a property agreement between the husband and the wife's father, over a few thousand years though we dressed the whole thing up and added some romance such that now it is a largely religious institution.

The state need only be concerned so far as tax filling status, and that's what civil unions are for
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>>131525895
97% of reported pedos are male and 1/3 of the victims of male pedos are boys. so that's about 32%
Source I dug up quick check if it's good:
http://borngay.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000030
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>>131526431
The Catholic church are cucks, m8. Pretending to be abstinent while diddling MALE kids is a fucking abomination. Pull your head out of your arse.

>Perth
Don't bring the city down with your bullshit friendo, we don't need lynch mobs just yet. If you're itching to knock heads move over East. It's teeming with degeneracy.
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>>131526237
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>>131513906
The marital union is inextricably both procreative and unitive. To have intercourse with a prostitute is a lie--they become married in body, but are separate in mind.
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>>131524101
>how goddamn powerful the kikes are
Jesus, not again. If jews control everything then I wish I had been born a jew. I would be leading a nation by now, no? Or at least a major Hollywood studio. Do you think they will let me in on their cabal if I cut my foreskin and renounce christianity?
>muh 9/11 wasn't an inside job
Why am I not surprised.
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>>131513906
you can't make a family without procreation, stupid frog-poster.
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Let the free market decide.
Plenty of money to be made from gay weddings... and gay divorces.
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>>131509318

Only if one of them wears a wedding dress. The church has always been full of homosexuals anyway.
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If you don't want gays getting married due to procreation, then you should also ban infertile straight couples by your "logic".
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>>131509318
I don't support things that don't exist. Gay "marriage" is nothing of the sort, it's a LARP. Future generations will howl with laughter at the stupidity of any civilization allowing this idiotic unnatural practice to enter legislation.

>b-bu
No. Stop immediately. There is no retort you could possibly give to this that I have not heard 10,000 times. If you mean to question "unnatural" I do not mean nature as in the trees you saw in the park the one time you ever left the hellish confines of your urban skinner box. I mean nature as in the essential purpose and function of things. Sex is for procreation. Marriage is LITERALLY the act of sex, that is why marriages that are not consummated may be annulled without consequence. There is no such thing as gay sex. It is masturbation by bizarre means. Therefore there is no such thing as gay marriage, by definition.

>Just let people do whatever man!
NONE of you believe this when you say it. You lie through your teeth like snakes--except snakes actually do not lie, only liberals and so-called libertarians do. Call me when you're a fucking Hoppean you kikes, unless you believe in absolute anarchy you believe that we can tell people what to do, and if I had to pick ONE behavior to discourage it would be homosexuality. I would rather like in Saudi Arabia than a country where faggotry is totally endorsed by society, and I am not wrong to think so. Gays should be purged from the gene pool eugenically.
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>>131509318

Don't make the government force people or institutions that otherwise can choose whether or not to perform it and I don't care.
Its a person and you want to share your pension with them, fine. I don't care who it is.
If a particular bank or financial institution wants to acknowledge a gay marriage, great. I don't care.
If you want to make Catholics respect it, you will have to make Islam respect it as well.
Otherwise, I just don't care if you need a piece of paper from the government to guarantee someone gets half your shit in a divorce.
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>>131528360
YES. Sterility is grounds for the annulment of a marriage in every Christian tradition and also in every society that understands what sterility is. Sterile women should live in convents.
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>>131511563
>white genocide
what do gay people have to do with white genocide?
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>>131527854
>If jews control everything then I wish I had been born a jew
The jews don't want you to be a born a jew. Only those who are of the same blood as them are allowed in their cult. It is a racial supremacist group that wishes to see the rest of humanity become subservient to it.
>9/11 was totally not faked goys
WTC7 is still waiting anon.
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>>131528897
>they don't breed therefore they fail to replace themselves in the population
>they promote their disease to children, therefore encouraging them to do the same
>this isn't white genocide
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>>131509318
No. Fags getting bold is an old historic sign of the downfall of a civilization.
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There is no need for gay marriage. They do not produce children. Period. Kurwa.
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>>131511672
>this country is riddled with religious fanatics
i can relate.
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>>131529038
>It is a racial supremacist group that wishes to see the rest of humanity become subservient to it.
So... They're fascists? Why do you hate them then?
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>>131529927
>fascism has anything to do with race
Holy mcfucking reddit
Even if you wanted to use national socialism as an example, national socialism is not racial supremacist and does not attempt to dominate over other races through means of subversion and trickery. So no, even more bullshit. Why haven't you killed yourself yet?
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>>131509318
Who fucking cares what some fags do in their spare time
Its only a problem when it's shoved into everything in the name of diversity and acceptance and shit
I don't fucking care how many cooks you can shove down your throat faggot
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fuck off why should any one treat you equaly you are not of equal societal value to normal people end of fucking story
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>>131509318
I support the LGBTQ+ community because their very existence pisses off conservatards
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>>131529408
stop with the fucking crying about it at least you are not riddled with faggots and or islamists
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>>131509318
Yes I support it. We where the first on the planet to legalize it. There is no valid reason not to allow it, it's the choice of two consenting adults.
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>>131530160
>holy mcfucking reddit
kek
Thanks for that picture, that explains a point thats really hard to make. Saved, friend.
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I only support gay genocide
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>>131509318
I really don't care. Let them do what they want, they're grown ass men.

I draw the line at adoption though. Also trannies. At least gays know who they are.
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>>131509318
I'm just think it's pointless. They can't have kids were as a normal couple can. It's like a couple in their 90's getting married, it's just like "erm yeah cool anyway..."
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>>131511672

>Never this country is riddled with religious fanatics

So just like Germany, Sweden and the UK ?
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>>131515202
A right wing propaganda outlet? You might as well have cited Dabiq...
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>>131509318

I don't really care either way.

Give me the same tax bennies as a married couple with no kids and you can call it whatever you want.
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>>131509318

I don't give a shit whether 2 consenting adults want to get married or have sex.

People who care clearly spend large amounts of time consumed with thoughts of same sex intercourse, which speaks volumes about their own sexuality.
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>>131530752
>i-it's propaganda
Lemme guess, you didn't check the sources cited did you?
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>>131530827
why? has any one given any bloody reason besides muh feels as to why?
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>>131509318

All marriage should be illegal
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Why do Gays care so much about marriage when they can't procreate ?

I feel like faggots are just attention whoring with this shit.

Normal gays don't stop being gay or in gay partnerships if they aren't allowed to hook up.

Gay marriage is just attention whoring.
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>>131509318
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>>131531015

Marriage has major tax implications. Come back when you're over 18 little guy.
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>>131515202
>www.traditioninaction.org
don't be naive
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>>131530413
This.

>>131529408
Nu mai fi prost si nu mai spama constant pe fb ca biserica e satana. Mai bine asa decat sa avem homalai fara opozitie care apoi o sa sustina alte "victime ale societatii" gen musulmanii. Mai jos ai o schema cum ar putea evolua lucrurile in multi ani, pentru mintea ta asa.

Biserica se duce pe pula -> degeneratii isi fac de cap -> incep sa sustina imigratia -> apar allahu akbarii -> ma-ta sare in aer la piata.
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>>131530976

You mean why do people enter partnerships?

Some gays are monogamous (though they're a silent crowd).

It's more a court institution than a church institution these days anyway. Divorce rates should've made that clear.
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>>131509318

On the degenerate scale homosexual's are very high on the list

You give them an inch they will push for legislations to force feed post modernist propaganda to kids
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>>131531129

So its about getting gibs without contributing to society with offspring (future workers, tax and pension payers) ?

Okay.
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>>131531185
Except that all that site does is compile statistical information from scientific studies and books. Good god fags are retarded.
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>>131531293
By silent you mean a minority of a minority

Just admit that lies and deception is at the core of homosexualité

A simple biological explanation is that homosexuals had to conceal their identity in the past

For good reasons
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>>131531293
no why should they be given an equal treatment?
they are not of the same value to society
why would they need tax breaks they arent going to raise a family or have one
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>>131530160
Don't take your own conclusions about what I said. The key word is 'supremacy'. Supremacy of one group of people over another. Radical Islam could easily pass for fascism.

Also:
>It was a pro-German racialism.
That's just a pretty way of saying racial supremacism.

>national socialism is not racial supremacist
KEK

> and does not attempt to dominate over other races through means of subversion and trickery.
No, only through means of war. An argument could be made that Germany was only trying to recover ethnically german areas that it had lost after WWI. But Germany didn't stop there. It invaded nation after nation after nation until it reached Stalingrad. And it would have reached Moscow, had it not founf resistence. Hitler wanted to subjugate the entire continent to the will of Germany.
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>>131531269
e schema cum se intampla mereu exact nu cum ar putea evolua avem exemplu pe viu din pacate
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>>131509318
Personally, I don't give a shit. If it keeps fruitcake whack jobs from parading in the streets in BDSM gear spanking each other with paddles then just let them have it.

What they do in their bedroom is their problem, our problem is that they act ridiculous about it and show it off in front of children.

Gay marriage? Sure whatever, they can argue with God about that in the end.

Gay pride? Now that shit is just a little out of hand.
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>>131531518

>By silent you mean a minority of a minority

Probably. I don't really talk to other gay people. Flamboyancy is obnoxious to me, so is wearing your sexuality as a personality.

You say conceal, but I just don't see it as a factor of any importance. People these days primarily tell you their sexuality when they're trying to change your opinion of a situation.

>why would they need tax breaks they arent going to raise a family or have one

Don't know if you've looked around you, but that's not really a guarantee anymore. Lots of married career women never plan to have kids, and generally end up turning into cat ladies.
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>>131531614
>Supremacy of one group of people over another. Radical Islam could easily pass for fascism.
Buddy, fascism has literally nothing to do with race. Do you even understand what you're arguing against?
>That's just a pretty way of saying racial supremacism.
Confirmation bias: the sentence.
>not an argument
Oh don't mind me just quotin Adolf Hitler here. Literally who member of the NSDAP.
>An argument could be made that Germany was only trying to recover ethnically german areas that it had lost after WWI.
Which was stolen from them by the jew funded Treaty of Versailles.
>But Germany didn't stop there
That's what happens when the rest of the world declares war on you, you dumb fuck. It's called fuckin war for a reason.
>It invaded nation after nation after nation until it reached Stalingrad.
Maybe, just fuckin maybe it's because the Soviets already had plans to invade Germany, the Germans just siezed the initiative.

You truly are the dumbest shill I've ever met. You don't even understand the ideology you're arguing against. Next you'll tell me the socialism in national socialism stands for marxist socialism.
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>>131530971
>Lemme guess, you didn't check the sources cited did you?

>Outdated news/journal articles from the height of the AIDS crisis - when everyone was trying to blame it on gay people.

And who are you to judge us? Your Aryan "master" race were still living in mud huts when we fags were building the bedrock of the greatest civilization on Earth in Italy and Greece!
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>Ask for gobment gibsmethat
>Bitch cuz your discriminated and marginalized
>Get what you want
>Throw giant degenerate parades, act like an entitled cunt to everyone.

Disgooooooostin', this is why gay people are so looked down upon, because faggots hijacked the whole thing.
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>>131532215
Buddy, I'm not even German or white. The fuck you on about?

Also you're telling me 2005 was the height of the AIDS panic? Don't make me laugh. Either refute the statistics with new data or GTFO.
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Vote 'Nein' here if you're against gay marriage
https://twitter.com/daspunkt/status/879655996423114752
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>>131509738
Marriage didn't start as a religious thing. It wasn't about procreation either.

It was about expanding family labor force, bringing important families together, and ending family feuds.
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>>131532383

There's more people that don't give a shit; than care one way or the other.
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>>131532318

That "pride" shit is literally a marketing campaign. No joke.
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>>131531614
Ans what did the soviets do
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>>131532383
I voted "Ja", did I do it right?
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>European Justice Court start nagging Romania about gay marriage
>Romania quickly bans gay marriage

https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/romania-government-votes-change-definition-family-order-ban-sex-marriage/

Balkan pride!
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>>131532139
>Buddy, fascism has literally nothing to do with race. Do you even understand what you're arguing against?
I didn't say racial supremacy, I said supremacy. Fascism is about supremacy.

>That's what happens when the rest of the world declares war on you, you dumb fuck. It's called fuckin war for a reason.
>Maybe, just fuckin maybe it's because the Soviets already had plans to invade Germany, the Germans just siezed the initiative.
>HITLER WAS A GOOD BOY, HE DIDN'T DO NUFFIN

You're literally using SJW arguments do defend the nazi regime. The only reason the war started was because Hitler was a madman and a megalomaniac of the worst kind, who wanted to rule over all of Europe and didn't seem to think other nations would defend themselves and their allies, which was what happened in the end. Germany started the war with it's ruthless actions.
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>>131529140
>implying there aren't homosexuals of other races
>implying there's a difference in reproduction whether gay people exist or not
matter of fact, you'd rather contribute to white genocide if you kill white homosexuals, and forbidding homosexuals to be homosexual won't solve anything

>>131528791
i love christcuck/conservatard logic used against itself
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>>131531015
>What are surrogates
>What is adoption
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>>131509318
no

because it destroys traditional family, and creates mental illness in any children : besides that, gay couples shouldn't get benefits of marriage unless they raise good kids.
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>>131509318

If I was homophobic I'd love gay marriage so they can be just as miserable as straights.
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>>131532835
when did this gem happen i live under a rock
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>>131532993
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>>131532931
>Fascism is about supremacy.
What's wrong with making yourself superior through your own sweat and blood? Unless you're a marxist egalitarian scumbag you should have no problem with this. Capitalism is also about economic supremacy, about making your company and profits superior to the competition and outclassing them.

>The only reason the war started was because Hitler was a madman and a megalomaniac of the worst kind
Hint: Alan Bullock is a shit tier historian and got the majority of his rubbish from Winston "This is not a war against Hitler, it is war against Germany" Churchill.
>and didn't seem to think other nations would defend themselves and their allies
You realize that Hitler WANTED to ally with the Brits right? He was an idealist in every sense of the word which is why he refused to extend his western front to the Brits even though they were another main opposition to him. His empathy and emotional weakness is what cost him the war
>inb4 imblying hitler was emotionally weak hahahahhah
Fun fact: he was a vegetarian and opposed smoking.
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>>131533292
marraiges are only miserable if the wife is influenced by feminism, or the husband doesn't care for the wife

if both spouses care more for each other than themselves, the marriage will be fine.
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>>131533021

How about just fucking women if your a man ?

Wouldnt that be easier ?

Why throw an innocent orphan in a weird situation that he will have to live with for the rest of his life

Or leave a child without his birth mom,again growing up without a female's care and attention, just so you can fuck your buddy in the ass ?

How about that friend ?
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>>131532931
>>131533417
Oh yeah. look at this, right here, this utterly megalomaniacal man. What a tyrant, giving out peace plans!
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>>131532931
>>131533417
>>131533767
Or this quote. A truly horrific dictator, trying to oppress his own people and take over Europe. What a madman!
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>>131533021

Ah the joy and privilege of being raised up in healthy family, just so you can turn into a deviant buttfucker and take a kid down the path of degenaracy and stigma with you.

Its like faggots forget they came from a man fucking a woman, and not a faggot fucking another faggot.
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>>131509318
No we don't, fuck off. All fags must be sent to hell.
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>>131533417
>>131533767
>>131533882
I know! Let's hear what the people themselves have to say! Surely the best kind of evidence would be a testimony from a german living in that period!

Wait, what do you mean the german masses loved Hitler?
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>>131530413
>>131531269
o generalizare extrem de proasta. asociezi a fi pro-LGBT cu a fi SJW. nu sunt suficient de spalat pe creier sa cred in bullshit gen "islamul e o religie a pacii". nu, men. daca in alte tari sta treaba asa, asta e, dar nu-mi asocia perspectiva cu una pseudo-liberala.

biserica nu va cadea prea curand, deoarece suntem o tara de crestinopaci fanatici. si nu zic ca e satana, dar nici folositoare nu e.

ce are lumea la noi cu gayii totusi? cati gay ati cunoscut voi in vietile voastre? eu n-am cunoscut foarte multi sincer sa fiu si in nici un caz nu i-as considera o amenintare in tara asta daca as fi si eu "intelectual" si as avea "valori". :^)
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>>131533417
>>131533767
>>131533882
>>131534100
*meanwhile in poland*
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>tfw test tube baby
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>>131532931
>>131533417
>>131533767
>>131533882
>>131534100
>>131534227
And of course, the poles are absolutely innocent. Did nothing wrong at all. I truly wonder why Hitler invaded them?
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>>131509318
Legal? Sure.
Moral and "acceptable"? Absolutely not.
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>>131532931
>>131533417
>>131533767
>>131533882
>>131534100
>>131534227
>>131534453
And one final thing: Those brits? Totally innocent. Churchill's disciples are absolutely reliable sources on history regarding Hitler and Co.
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>>131509318
The government should not be in the "marriage" business. All are considered civil unions, but tax benefits should highly (only?) favor producing children.

Churches can determine if they want to "marry" fags in their churches and should be in no way obligated to do so by law. There will be some fag church that will and they can go there.
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>>131532356
>Buddy, I'm not even German or white. The fuck you on about?
Then why fly the Nazi flag? Even as a shitpost it doesn't make sense.

You do realize they'd genocide you the first chance they get. Unless you are an Arab Muslim; they'd go for the Slavs first.

>2005
When `Tradition in Action` posted their "article".
None of the references cited there date from the 2000s.

>And again, Not white
Then you should know better than anyone that countries where people bow to their faggot overlords have lower STD stats than countries where they do not. Just look at all the Arab and African third world shitholes where my people are either executed or hunted down by lynch mobs.
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>>131509318
Gay marriage is an abomination. They can call it a marriage and have libtards clap and cheer at the charade but in the end they are just fooling themselves.
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>>131534770
The question is tho, should the tax benefits also count for a gay couple thats raising a child?
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>>131533417
>What's wrong with making yourself superior through your own sweat and blood?
There's nothing wrong with that. It's the essence of capitalism. What's wrong is wanting to subjugate everyone around you because you thing you are "superior". That's the essence of fascism. You seem to have trouble accepting other people's right of self determination. You want to not only choose how others live their lives, but impose your way of life on them.
> He was an idealist in every sense of the word
Yes, with all the wrong ideals.
>His empathy and emotional weakness is what cost him the war.
Yes, Hitler was a good boy.
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>What's wrong is wanting to subjugate everyone around you because you thing you are "superior"
That's not what fascism is about. Fascism is about making yourself and your people superior and using this might to defend yourself as needed. Clearly you understand absolutely nothing about the ideologies you argue against.
>Yes, with all the wrong ideals.
Oh yeah, revitalizing your economy, wanting your country to be healthy, wanting people to be free from jewish degeneracy and influence, and wanting others to express the same racial and national pride? All horrible ideals. No no, all terrible terrible things indeed.
>not an argument again
Lazy shill is lazy.
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>>131535920
Look at this evil man and his utter hatred for the concept of self-determination! Forcing his obnoxious cis white male christian religious views on people, what a scumbag!
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I don't particularly support it but neither am I against it in a significant way. I just don't care super much if gays don't get state support for their unions, or if they do.
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>>131535552
>>131535920
>>131536118
See this philosophy? Utter hatred for individualism. No respect for others at all. Fascist monster.

Really though, face it shill, you lost hours ago. I debunked your holohoax nonsense, I debunked the idea that Hitler started the war, I debunked your delusions on fascism, I debunked your muh ebil adolf shitler concept. There is nothing left for you to argue save repeat yourself as if I haven't long covered these points. Either give a proper argument or cease wasting my time.
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>>131509318
Yes for legal benefits of 2 people cohabiting as that's good for society in general regardless of whether or not the couple can have children. This should be renamed to civil partnership for all, not just same sex couples.
Religious marriage should have no benefits at all and religious institutions should be able to choose who they provide ceremonies to.
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>>131535920
>wanting people to be free from jewish degeneracy and influence, and wanting others to express the same racial and national pride? All horrible ideals. No no, all terrible terrible things indeed.

Your tiny little fascist mind really can't get around the concept of freedom, can it?

>Hitler was for religious tolerance
That's why he merdered millions of innocent poles I guess

It amazes me that you take propaganda as fact. It's a testament to the nazis that decades later their lies are still accepted as truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHomETco0MI
HEY LOOK AT THIS TOTALLY FACTUAL VIDEO ABOUT THE USSR!!!! WASN'T IT AMAZING?? I WISH I COULD BE A SOVIET!!

I''ve encountered many idiots here and you, sir, are at the top of the list.
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>Your tiny little fascist mind really can't get around the concept of freedom, can it?
If being free means letting the people fall to degeneracy then I will be as stuck up and authoritarian as it gets. Freedom is a little price to pay in exchange for a healthy clean society.

>That's why he merdered millions of innocent poles I guess
>MUH HOLOCAUST
This again. You never will drop the topic of the 66 trillion will you?

>It amazes me that you take propaganda as fact
Please prove that it's propaganda because all of the data I've posted is either sourced quotes, newspaper clippings or infographs containing properly cited data. So no, a shitty anthem is not any of that at all.

>sir
HelIo reddit!
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>>131537999
Also, I never got this "religious tolerance massacred poles" argument. Half the time I see it in relation to the kikes and the other to the christians. The first one is obviously a fallacy because he was targeting kikes, who are not white, and once again the holohoax is not real. The second one doesn't even make any sense because Hitler himself was a catholic. The iconic NSDAP swastika came from a reversed and tilted flag of a swastika, that is, the typical hindu/buddhist one you normally see, that he saw regularly while at church.
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>>131537999
>letting the people fall to degeneracy
YOUR concept of degeneracy. Well, I think you're degenerate. What now?
>a healthy clean society.
YOUR concept of a healthy, clean society. I think society would be better off without people like you. What now?

>Please prove that it's propaganda
>nazis talking about freedom and tolerance is not propaganda
That's how they get people like you in the first place. Convince you it's all for the greater good and then send you to die on the eastern front.
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No, not under any circumstances.
>>131510144
Even from a secular perspective it is sinful.
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>>131509318
I don't. I'm not against it but I see no reason to support it. It does nothing for the nation and just seems like fags LARPing as straight people.
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>>131538829
>I'm not against it
Read The Republic.
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>>131538688
>Well, I think you're degenerate. What now?
Source required. I do not drink, I do not masturbate, I do not engage in sexually promiscuous behavior, I do not partake in substance abuse. Good luck finding any aspect of mine that is degenerate.
>I think society would be better off without people like you
Citation required that a society without nationalists is better than a one with it.

>nazis talking about freedom and tolerance is not propaganda
It isn't though. All of these are real quotes. Are you telling me they aren't real because they don't fit your narrative?
>Convince you it's all for the greater good and then send you to die on the eastern front.
We're talking about the NSDAP not the Bolsheviks. Wrong ideology buddy.
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>>131537081
I Agree with this but most fags won't. They think they have a right to force people to compromise their values and marry them. They truly believe people should be forced by law to accept homosexuality. At this point the fags have become more extreme than the antifags.
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>>131539034
I'll check it out anon
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>>131528804
>>131528360
why don't we just force sterile women to become state sponsored prostitutes?
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>>131509318
>Gay Marriage
No such thing.
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>>131539041
>Good luck finding any aspect of mine that is degenerate.
You're a nazi.
>Citation required that a society without nationalists is better than a one with it.
The whole of post-WWII Western Europe, North America, Australia, New Zealand, Japan...
>All of these are real quotes. Are you telling me they aren't real because they don't fit your narrative?
That's what propaganda is, buddy. It fit's YOUR narrative, that's why you take it as fact. But history tells a very different story and serves to prove every line about peace, prosperity, freedom and tolerence spit out by the nazis is a lie made to convince fools like you.
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>>131539519
>The whole of post-WWII Western Europe, North America, Australia, New Zealand, Japan...
>North America

Maybe Canada but we have plenty of nationalists in America. In fact lefties like you call us nationalist as an insult all of the time and our President is a nationalist right now.
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>>131509318
Just makes divorce that much more laughable.
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>>131512451
This. Should we start letting Bronies marry their horse dolls too?
There is no such thing as "homosexuality". Sex implies an act that can lead to procreation. Gay "sex" is actually just a form of masturbation.
So if it's not "sexuality" what is it? A fetish.
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>>131539673
>we have plenty of nationalists
nationalism =/= patriotism. anti-american lefties just think everyone who is proud of the USA is a nationalist
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>>131539873
>anti-american lefties just think everyone who is proud of the USA is a nationalist

Very very true
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>>131539519
>You're a nazi.
Nice ad hom. What aspect exactly about "nazism" is it that's degenerate? What aspect of it is inherently detrimental to society?
>The whole of post-WWII Western Europe, North America, Australia, New Zealand, Japan...
Funny because America's current president is a nationalist. Japan is notoriously xenophobic. Australia has white on migrant race crimes on the regular. And let's not get started on Brexit or the anti-migrant sentiment.
>That's what propaganda is, buddy. It fit's YOUR narrative, that's why you take it as fact.
But my narrative is based off of the facts given to me. And the facts given to me say that Hitler did not want war. Churchill did. The jewish powers that be did. And when he retaliated they blamed the war on him. Clearly your "history" is bullshit that a): you haven't even sourced, backed up. or cited once and b): fits right in line with the zionist propaganda I've heard a million times from lolbergtardians like yourself.

>>131539873
Patriotism = love of your government. Nationalism = love of your country and your people. Just putting that out there.
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>>131539519
>>131540230
Also
>every line about peace, prosperity, freedom and tolerence spit out by the nazis is a lie made to convince fools like you.
How interesting is it that 70 year old quotes were designed to trick people so far away in the future? By god, if they actually are trickery I'd side with the NSDAP either way just by their sheer intelligence and capability to tell the future.
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I dont really care. Im for gays having civil unions so they can see each other in the hospital. The institution of marriage is a thing designed for raising children though, but its also a total sham in our time. If gays dont get married thats fine too, it seems absurd to cry about it. Honestly a gay who wants to get married sounds like a shithead. It seems like a cooler gay wouldnt even want to, due to the sham nature of marriages, the lack of children, and the promiscuous nature of men.
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>>131539041
> Good luck finding any aspect of mine that is degenerate.

>>131532356
Neither German or White. Your party's standards, not mine.

>>131539673
Our President is a nationalist right now.

But he is neither anti-degenerate or a national socialist

#NotAll Nationalism is bad.
National Socialism and National Bolshevism/Duginism are.
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Under the state yes,but not in a church
-"all of her children treated equally"
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>>131540230
>What aspect exactly about "nazism" is it that's degenerate?
All of it, except the swanky SS uniforms.
>What aspect of it is inherently detrimental to society?
Political and religious persecution, anti-intellectualism, police state, forced euthanasia, censorship, etc. etc.
>Funny because America's current president is a nationalist.
America's current president is a populist.
>But my narrative is based off of the facts given to me.
Information presented as fact by propaganda, I would tell you to read a history book, but you propably think it was written by the international jewry.
>And the facts given to me say that Hitler did not want war.
No, he just expected to invade and conquer without any fight whatsoever. He was smart like that.
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>>131540526
>How interesting is it that 70 year old quotes were designed to trick people so far away in the future?
Yes, it's interesting. People still fall for it.
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>>131540230
>What aspect exactly about "nazism" is it that's degenerate? What aspect of it is inherently detrimental to society.

The fact that sympathizers and adherents think like this:
>Freedom is a little price to pay in exchange for a healthy clean society

All forms of socialism and collectivism are cancer.
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>>131540736
Well obviously bro, I was just pointing out that Nationalism does exist in North America and isn't rare.
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BECAUSE THAT SHOULD ALSO BE ILLEGAL
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It's quite obvious to most folks here that the problem with gay marriage is that it's a tax drain, obviously with marriage comes tax breaks, and this is to encourage procreation.

The problem could very well be solved by changing the criteria to be eligible for the aforementioned tax breaks, marriage alone should not be the sole qualifier for that.

Tax breaks should be given to those that are married, and have children. This also goes for infertile couples (or homos) who want to adopt.

Should that become the case, it will no longer be an issue whether or not homos get married (I'd love to see how many would even go through the trouble of doing so, now that there's no benefits from it).

As for their adopting kids, I don't think that'll be much of a problem either, given how hedonistic they are, the likely wouldn't want to go through the trouble of child care either (although there was the case of that one couple who adopted a kid and put them in a sex trafficking ring, I don't know if anyone has the article).
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>>131541021
>All of it, except the swanky SS uniforms.
My my, I can't help it if we've got good fashion taste. Not really detrimental to society either way so.
>Political and religious persecution
Persecuting people who push inherently dangerous political ideas is good. Persecuting religions that also push inherently dangerous ideas is good. Protect the people by destroying what threatens them.
>anti-intellectualism
What you've been displaying so far you mean?
>police state
To protect the people. Hitler himself said that should a state be tyrannical the people should take arms and crush it.
>forced euthanasia
Now you're just making shit up
>censorship,
On the topic of the book burnings, most of the books burnt were communist propaganda and pornography, and even then they were symbolic, at least one remaining copy of each was kept in archives. Also note that the press that was censored was all jew owned, much like today's.
>America's current president is a populist.
And nationalist. See his anti-immigration policies.
Hint: He's not an ethno-nationalist, he's a civic nationalist.
>Information presented as fact by propaganda
So because you don't like it it's not fact. Gotit.
>I would tell you to read a history book, but you probably think it was written by the international jewry.
So far all the shit you've regurgitated is textbook Bullock crap which is basically just Churchill discipleship. Which in turn is jewery. So yeah, you are citing international jewery as a source.
>No, he just expected to invade and conquer without any fight whatsoever
Oh boy, that must be why he increased the military expenditure during 1939 as shown right here, amirite?

Seriously who the fuck are you trying to fool here? This is beyond retarded.
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>>131541188
Talk about autism kek. You're basically admitting that your bullshit makes no sense at all while continuing to spout it. Lolbergtardians really are the dumbest people on the planet. Hell, I'd mistake you for a liberal if you weren't blindly defending capitalism earlier.
>pic related, an example of "freedom"
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>>131541840
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2355194/U-S-Australian-citizen-sentenced-40-years-buying-boy-sole-purpose-exploitation.html
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>>131541021
>>131541188
Either way, I'm going to bed. If you want to continue debating with a national socialist(s) then you are free to enter /nsg/.
>>131524990
>>131524990
>>131524990
>>131524990
They will step on your pathetic excuses of arguments the same way I did, and they will laugh at you even more than I have. Have fun while I'm gone!
>inb4 muh circlejerk, not worth muh preshus time etc etc
What's wrong? Unable to argue your points when you have multiple people pointing out that you're retarded? It's ok, if you want, I can tell them to go easy on you.
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>>131542599
Look, I'm so nice that I told them to be gentle with your fragile sensibilities!
>>131542809
Who ever said all nazis were bad eh?
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>>131509318
>Just
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>>131541870
>What you've been displaying so far you mean?
>He thinks he's an intellectual
Oh, my sides.

>police state
>To protect the people.
No, to ensure continuing power to the Nazi Party.

>So because you don't like it it's not fact. Gotit
So because you like it's fact. Got it.

>Talk about autism kek.
What do you call being a nazi in 2017? It's not like we haven't tried with disastrous consequences it you know.

>Oh boy, that must be why he increased the military expenditure during 1939 as shown right here, amirite?
Yes, that's a sign of someone who is indeed peaceful.
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>>131510099
Doesn't saying that get you 25 years in prison in Sweden?
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>>131541870
>Persecuting people who push inherently dangerous political ideas is good.

Who decides what's dangerous? The Party, that's who!

>Hitler himself said that should a state be tyrannical the people should take arms and crush it.

Who decides what's tyrannical? According to ANTIFA, Trump's tweets alone constitute tyranny. According to Hitler, being charged interest is tyrannical.

>Also note that the press that was censored was all jew owned.
So censoring the right wing is bad, but censoring jews and the left for good measure, is good. Glad to know all this free speech hysteria is just a cover for YOUR totalitarian ambitions.
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>>131509318
Marriage is just another institution of private law. Government cannot rule private contracts. So nope, I am not in favor of straight or homo "legal" marriage.
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>>131509318
no.
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>>131509318
I try not to think about them. There are bigger problems in my country to think about.
Nope
Maybe after 10-20 years.
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>>131543513
don't expect logic and reason from him. someone who jerks off to mein kampf is well beind any help.
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>>131544440
>Looking for logic and reason
>Gets in an argument on /pol/
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>>131509318

of course.

it's most of /pol/ only chance to get married.
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>>131509318

marriage is a ritual,

soo afrikan
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>>131509318
Absolutely should not be allowed. The faggots have done much damage to our society by ruining the institution of what marriage is. Decadent society now because of this degeneracy.
I won't get "married" now, instead I just have a life with my mate, because marriage is now for faggots. They ruined it. Don't want anything to do with it any more.
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>>131543882
>I try not to think about them. There are bigger problems in my country to think about.

That's what the American religious right thought about feminism and social justice in the 80s and 90s. Hair metal and records being played backwards were 'bigger problems'.

Fast forward 10-20 years...
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>>131509318
They can marry but it will last half a year at best.
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>>131546047
>faggots ruining the institution marriage
Feminists*

Marriage was already ruined long before we fags even thought about getting a piece of that action.
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>>131509318
I don't give a shit if gays marry tbqh
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In my country gay marriage is not allowed, but they can do something similar.
I personally don't support nor condemn them.
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>>131509446
>>131509635
>>131513906
>>131523876

really fucking amazed that you don't even know why marrige is even there , you people are cucked beyond recovery my white boiis, if marrige is for reproduction then that can be done with any fucking female, marrige is there to ensure that the woman you fuck is well taken care of and you stay there to raise that child, marrige is a constitution that works only when every one follows it, marrige is there to ensure the saftey of child, mother and thus society whole together ensuring that childeren raised are well and good, no wonder you're going extinct white boiis, keep going on while i enjoy my 4 wives
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Why not. it's their life. I mean...its only a piece of paper. In italy gay civil union is legal. that means that they have the same rights and duty of heterosexual couples (4ex. visit in the hospital and heritage). Though they can't adopt children.
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>>131510488
Fuck Muslims. AMIRITE?
>>
I don't support it in that I am going to spend any time pushing for it, but I really just don't give a fuck. Just don't be goofy flaming faggots out in public and you can do whatever the hell you want in your private time.
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>>131550349
I will add to this that they should not be able to adopt. Once you choose to suck a dick or rub canals together, you take yourself out of the ability to reproduce, so it you want a kid find a donor. No adoptions by faggots. At any time ever.
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>>131509318
Pic related sums it all up.
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>>131512170
First, gays can't have children.
Second, just because two consenting adults (I hate that fucking phrase btw) want to marry doesn't mean they can and should.
Juse because your sexual preferance differs doesn't mean you should get you any special rights.
By that idiotic "consentig adults" logic, we should also allow incestual marriage, self-marriage, polygamy, etc...

We shouldn't have stepped out of the confined marriage norms as they were.

I hate people.
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>>131539815
Agreed.

So-called "gay rights" are an amazing feat done by post-modern ideologs, using pure sophistry to push their degenerate agenda.

Homosexuality used to refer to a same-gender sexual conduct, but by manipulation of certain governmental and to that extent medical institutions "gay rights" activists managed to both redefine what the word meant and to clasify it as an immutable condition EQUAL to heterosexuality, which is preposterous.
What that means it that homosexuality is "normal" and is completely independent from sexual conduct, which shows its irrationality because that would mean a straight person can engage in a same-gender sexual relations and not be gay, and a gay person can engage in a opposite-gender sexual relations and still be "immutably" gay.
And the kicker is, NO ONE has proven that people are actually born gay. Yet, here we are.
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