The end of 'bake my cake'?

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>>131497524
Breyer

Kagan

Kennedy

Sotomayor

Ginsburg

Christians do not somehow have the "right" to inflict harm upon sexual minorities.

>>131497787

As quoted in the OP, Kennedy has shown over and over again he supports religious exemptions. May go either way with him, but your end zone dancing is definitely premature.

Also, homosexuals have no federal protections under the Civil Rights Act, which says absolutely nothing about sexual orientation. 21 states have laws giving homosexuals public accommodation protections, but 29 states do not.

>>131497787
>sexual minorities

Kek, can't wait until we gas you all.

>>131498007
Colorado has a state law prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. This isn't a Civil Rights Act case.

>>131497524
How do you feel about a gay mechanic refusing to fix the car of a Christian?

>>131497524
Big if true.

>>131498377
I can't speak for all Christians but I wouldn't want a fag touching my car at all.

So pretty good :thumb:

>>131497787
>sexual minorities
When the day of the rope comes, you'll be sexual extinctinorities.

>>131498377
Christians fix their own cars.

>>131498377
>gay mechanic
Yeah okay buddy, even if he was gay he'd definitely not be a giant faggot.

>>131498377

I don't know, does the Christian demand this mechanic come to his church to fix it, like homosexuals do their gay weddings? Does the Christian tell the mechanic to fix the car in some Christian way, the way the homosexual tells the baker that they're gay and want a rainbow-colored gay pride cake?

>>131498581
Let me just get my tool. It's in my pants.

I see looks like your full of HOT OIL. Just gonna need to use my hand to help ejaculate some of that oil.

Oh yes! I see it's coming out of your exhaust pipe now. Might need to get to your back seat so I can use my tool!

>>131498377
They would lose a lot of business if they made that choice. If they want to lose that many customers that should be their choice and they should be allowed to limit themselves.
In a free market someone can fix cars down the street from them accept everyone.
People will go back to the place that does the best work and that they like the best, and that does the work they ask for.

>>131498559
Stop driving 20 year old rust buckets. There aren't even screws on Iphones anymore. Why wouldn't car manufacturers be scum as well?

>>131498581
>>131498506
But would you be okay with him being able to refuse? What about other services? Like a super market not selling to Christians or a concert not selling tickets to Christians?

>>131498377
I'd call a very bad business decision. But it definitely shouldn't be illegal.

>>131497524
Why did this even had to get to the supreme court.

>>131498933
Yes, free market bitch.

Alternatively, I'm okay with discrimination laws if they make political correctness illegal too.

>>131498377
>How do you feel about a gay mechanic refusing to fix the car of a Christian?

Illegal under the civil rights act.

>>131498933
We alredy had "womens only" screening for Wonder woman, the answer is simple:
A, Don't go
>or
B.Self Identify as a faggot for 30 minutes.

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>>131497524
Its funny when 3-4% terrorizes majority. Seriously grow some balls.

>>131498933
>stop driving 20 year old rust buckets
no, fuck you and your shitty cars with no personality
>t. owner of a 54 year-old car

>i hate you and everything you stand for
>but also i want you to be a part of the most important day of my life

I guess it makes sense that a fucking communist wouldn't believe in the free market and just go buy something from someone they think deserves it.

there's a clear difference between selling a product and selling a service. i believe you cannot refuse a sale of a product to anyone for any reason. if the main goal of the business is to make money it's nonsense.

however baking a cake is obviously providing a service. you can refuse anyone any service for any reason. if the ruling is that you cannot discriminate on religious grounds, that means you can force people against their will to do things for you aka slavery

prove me wrong

>>131498994
Same reason the President's travel ban had to go to the SC. Liberal activist judges. 9th needs to be broken up and judges need to be replaced with judges, even the SC, getting a reduction in their power. It's complete cancer what we have now.

>>131498933
cars stopped being good in the early 90s. Anything later than that is basically a piece of shit you should not be driving.

There are probably some exceptions, like industrial vans or something i dont know

>>131498620
Yeah sure. Let's say the Christian wants big crosses installed on his car or something. Something purely optic, like an inscription on a cake.

>>131498830
>free market
A city babby. First of all, there are specialised mechanics that have the tools and know-how to fix cars from certain manufacturers. Secondly, if you live in a rural area, such car mechanics can be rare. That means the free market is distortet by outside forces in the real world.

But yeah, loss of customers is a good argument. If you wanted to encourage public lynching campaigns informing the public about business decisions of bakers and mechanics.

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>>131498994

The same reason as the travel moratorium: The lower courts are currently stacked with insane Democrat-appointed liberal activist judges.

It'll start to correct itself in the next few years as Trump puts conservatives on the bench, but right now it's just atrocious.

>>131498830
What if it is a small, rural town and there is only one car repair shop without having to drive 25 miles over to the next town? Why do you deserve to be able to inconvenience people?

no shoes <br>
no shirt<br>
no service<br>

>>131498933
>super market not selling to Christians
How the fuck do you imagine that?
>HERE I GO, YOUR AVERAGE CATHOLIC
>CHRIST I HOPE THEY DON'T FIND OUT
>cashier: you know I can hear you, right?
>FUUUCK

>>131499316
The fag is free not to live in the restrictive rural environment then.

>>131497787
>inflict harm
so refusing to bake a wedding cake for gays is inflicting harm now, that's some sweet mental gymnastics
>sexual minorities
lel

>>131499316
Then find somone to do the paint job, Or ask your dealership, Unless dealerships are filled with faggots too? My point is, Walk 2 blocks and you'll probably find someone willing to do it.

Now we arrive at your
>hurr durr rural retard
moment. If you live in a rural area and know NOBODY in your family or in your close friends able to do some work around a car, You seriously fucked up, and should invest in bleach at the instant.

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>>131499594
You see, you destroy their cake before it even existed and they could make it their property by buying it from you, so you committed temporal assault.

>>131499446
The same way a baker finds out his customers are fags. Walk in displaying a cross or any other sign of Christianity, get told to leave.

It's more a thought experiment.

>>131499517
The Christian trying to get his car fixed is also free to move.
Okay, what about other services? Those that are critical for live. Like a mechanic refusing to fix your heating because you have crosses in your house. It's easy in cities, but in remote areas?

>>131498377
so some fag opened his own shop and refuses to work on christian owned cars?
fine with me, i'll go somewhere else and laugh when he goes out of business because he has no customers

>>131499751
What if you claim it was in self defence, since there was a timeline from this point in time where you ended up being raped?

>>131499151
Whoa bro, I own a 73 Opel gt rallye it has tons of personality.

>>131499825
>member of 3% minority refuses to fix car of 60-80% majority

sure is good for his buissnes

also faggots can go to hell

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>>131497787
Go be mentally ill somewhere else.

>>131499825
>germ-anon ignores every single of my post

I hope your sister gets BLACKED.

>>131499939
Flag, it checks out. I agree on the homocaust.

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>>131499092

Reminder that the average dumbass American will tell you 25% or 33% of the U.S. population is gay, mostly due to television and the disproportionate media coverage.

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>>131499751
oh shit

>>131497787
Can't wait till Kennedy retires and all the """progress""" you sodomites have made gets undone :^)

>>131499882
Hm. You mean a timeline where said cake becomes sentient and tries to rape you, thus you have to destroy it? I guess.
Just make sure you're not a straight white male. Or at least claim you'll find out sometime in the future that you're actually transgender which will eventually lead to a sex change operation.

>>131499825
I never said it can't go both ways, that's fine.

If the fag can't get anyone to fix his heating, it's time to move.

>>131499630
Two weeks ago I had to get my car fixed. There was something wrong with the servo steering. Since I am a rural retard, there weren't lots of dealerships around to choose from. Since it was a problem in the electronics, it was impossible to fix for a layman without spending literally thousands of €s on trial and error which part of the electronics had to be replaced.

If I were Canadian, the one mechanic able to find out what to replace could have told me to shut my fag hole and piss off in America.

My options would have been to drive an hour or so with fucked steering to the next dealership or to spent hundreds of €s on a maybe solution.

Now would you be okay with that being legal to do to someone if it were to happen to you?

>>131497524
You must discuss the possibility of creating concentration camps for faggots who didn't start a normal heterosexual life.

>>131499913
>1973
exactly my point

>>131498933
>Stop driving 20 year old rust buckets. There aren't even screws on Iphones anymore. Why wouldn't car manufacturers be scum as well?

t. the female team at volvo that designed a car that needs special tools to access the engine and isn't designed to be serviced by anyone but trained service techs

>>131498535
Sexual minorities included: Alexander the Great, Frederick the Great, Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Turning, Trajan,...

Gay men are okay as long as they are not deviants, lesbians on the other hand are just sick

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>convert to islam
>refuse to bake cakes for infidels unless they can praise allah in arabic while facing mecca
>if they whine take it to court
>allahu ackbar

>>131500248
>This guy that raped my daughter and got off on a technicality came to my shop because his steering is broken. Since I am the only shop within 100 miles that can work on his type of car I should be forced to help him.

>>131497524
Business is fucking business. How fucking dumb do you have to be to deny service to someone. How do you think big companies would work if they'd think like these. People with this mindset do not belong into the world of commerce and trade.

>>131499939
>3% minority
He could be a specialist of some kind. Then his minority status doesn't matter.

>>131500216
Are there services where you'd say it's okay/needed for the government to enforce them being provided to fags and Christians?

>>131497524
Something i don't understand...
Why does the government has any say in the matter ?
Are we talking about private businesses ? And if so , they can do whatever the fuck they want with it. If discriminating against certain groups is the buisness owner's choice , it's his/her problem. Not the government's.
Besides , the market will decide if it's a good or bad decision.
If people boycott it to the point where said business goes bankrupt , oh well...The boss only has himself to blame.
If on the contrary , some people actually support said business because they happen to share the same ideas , and the guy ends up making more money (word of mouth etc..) , more power to him.

But why in the hell should the government be involved in any of this ?
Can someone explain ? I thought America had more liberties than France.

>>131499446

Shitty analogy because it isn't against a super market's secularlism to sell goods to people.

>>131497524

Hey, atheist trump supporter here.

I don't hate gays..they have a mental illness.. but leftists and communists can fuck right off.

This is how it will go down:

You can't just say "they can go somewhere else" because that gets back into "separate but equal" kind of stuff that got shot down in the 60's. So those kind of arguments are going to get thrown out.

Contrary to the people not receiving service being 'harmed' you can definitively say the religious person is being harmed by being forced into an act contrary to his belief system.

Here is a better analogy and the real test: I go into a Muslim bakery and order a cake depicting Mohammed eating a pork chop for my birthday. Should the Muslim be forced to depict my imagery?

>>131500248
Why is literally any person besides a government obligated to give you service and much less why would you want someone hypothetically who despises you fixing something as fickle as vehicle steering? Thats just the topper of terrible arguments but it even fails in relevance the proposed situation in no way endorses a morally exclusive lifestyle choice like gay marriage and it also does not involve a religious aspect such as marriage.

>>131500469
>Oh wow, look at these great men, they were alleged queers, look how awesome they were!!!
Keep them in the closet. Do you think I'm unaware of the fact that they don't have full control over their sexuality?
>Gay men
>not deviants
Pick one.

Fucking Serbs forgot to take out the trash again.

>>131500248
>not having a car insurance that covers towing fees.

>>131500493
Nobody wants to buy cakes from terrorists anyway.
They probably have bombs in them.

>>131500540
Tell me about the time the fags raped you in your bakery.

>>131500248
The real question here is why you are walking up to mechanics and saying

>Hey, I'm gay. Not even manly gay. I wear panties and have hairy dudes ram me up the ass without touching my dick until I spurt semen all up in my chastity cage, and tell them to call me sally. If my ass gets loser that's all fine, it'll be more like a vagina. Being fucked like a bitch is great, you hear? Best shit ever, even if you get shit everywhere. Anyways, do you want to fix my car?

>grant new freedoms to businesses to discriminate against gays and lesbians

wow this article isn't biased at all!

>>131500582
>Shitty analogy
You don't say. It's almost like that was my point or something.

>>131500548
>People with this mindset do not belong into the world of commerce and trade.
>t. Bosnian subhuman
Freedom of association should be a right. If you don't want to sell to a queer- don't. If you don't want to serve a nigger - don't.

If you want to sell to untermenschen, be my guest. But the government shouldn't force you to do anything that goes against your morals.

>>131500593
>fucking Serbs forgot to take out the trash
The Serbs which have a ugly lesbo for president?

Come on Boris, we were allies in both world wars, and we cheered for you in the second Balkan war, don't be like that

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>>131497524
>discriminate against gays and lesbians — and potentially others — based on the faith of the owners.
>potentially others
they didn't have the balls to write "women" because suggesting that would be islamophobic.

>>131498933
>But would you be okay with him being able to refuse?

Yes. I'll just go to someone else.

>>131500673

Whoops replied to the wrong reply. Pls no bully.,

>>131500696
>The Serbs which have a ugly lesbo for president?
I told you they forgot to take out the trash.

>>131500567

Because white Southerners used to be mean to niggers and refuse them service in their restaurants and whatnot. So Congress passed the Civil Rights Act in 1964, which had a 'public accommodation' provision that said if your business is open to the public, you could not turn away or refuse service to anyone based on their race, religion, etc. (sexual orientation was not included in this law).

>>131500695
>t. Bosnian subhuman
Not a Bosnian, and, that is a lot of shit comming from a country filled with gypsies and Turks...

And no, morals have no place in trade. You are to serve everyone, because you dedicated your life to earning money, want to live by the hoax of morality? Live in a fucking cloister

>>131500655

>Grant gays and lesbians rights the rest of us don't have to control anyone they want by waving leftist propaganda around.

Homsexuality is perfectly natural and I don't mind people being gay.

But I will never understand those gays who wants to marry in a church, or demand that people who hate them make their cake. Why do you want to support an institution and business that hates you and your way of life? WHY? Give your money to someone else, damn it.

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>>131497787
I love this thing.

>>131500713
>taqiyah
This is cringy. Taqiyah is a Shia thing and Shia musies are both low in number and total bros in the fight against the sunnis Arab trash.
And Ibadis use it too, ie the guys in Oman, a country never in any sort of shit.

>>131500549
Government services, like getting a license, applying for social security, getting a federal student loan, getting a business license etc etc...

Private services and businesses should be able to dictate who they serve. The business that doesn't discriminate will get more customers than the ones that do.

>>131498933
why the fuck should one party that obviously hates another be forced to do business with them?

if it's a private business then who the fuck cares?

the businesses that don't take any political stance will win out anyway, because they won't be pushing away paying customers

>>131500567
Because they passed a law in '64 to give those who aint got a little more, but it only goes so far.

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>>131500548
>People with this mindset do not belong into the world of commerce and trade.

Yet this practice exists in many countries around the world and they're doing just fine.
As a matter of fact , some end up doing more money while discriminating. How ? Again , word of mouth...Let's say you have a family that doesn't want to be surrounded by people like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcjz41znkVI

Again , word of mouth..instead of losing clients , they'll gain more of them. Sometimes these types of decisions can be potentially good for businesses.

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>>131500918
>don't worry, that's just the OTHER muslims
literally taqiyah kek

>>131500616
They raped their freedom when they forced them to make something they weren't comfortable making.

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>>131500008
You see gays here are barley tolerated.
They dont breed, they dont contribute anything and they are disgrace.

>>131500592
Because religion/sexuality is a private matter, while a business is part of the public. A business should not have an opinion on these things. It should provide a service and do its job based on business transactions. A hundred dollar bill from a fag is equal in puchasing power to a hundred dollar bill from a priest.

>someone who despises you
Religion or sexuality should not be a valid reason to be despised. All men are equal and stuff.

>>131500895

It's fags looking to use the courts to bully Christians.

That's not even hyperbole. The gay plaintiff in this case literally drove to a bunch of different bakeries in Colorado, specifically looking for one who'd refuse him service so he could sue, before finally finding the baker and bakery at the heart of this Supreme Court case.

>>131501096
>All men are equal and stuff.
wow sexist

>>131500825
or you could just not force businesses to do business with people they hate and let the market sort itself out

>>131500548

I avoided a nig barber this week to go to an exclusively white one. Avoided the multiculti barber too. Both the white barber and the nig barber were out performing the multiculti unisex salon. Don't pretend you've never seen this.

It's called catering to your market.

Idunno, as a bisexual ive never felt discriminated against, and I live in an upper class white, christian republican town. Ive only ever been denied service once and it was because I wanted to have a special order from a Pizza shop for my boyfriend. And I don't really feel like its discrimination if im not the business owner. I walked into the shop and asked him to do something he couldnt do by the nature of his faith, I dont feel oppressed at all. I also don't want to be ran out of town and denied any sort of business if it isnt related to my sexuality, but gays are kinda retarded to make that analogy too cause I never see that happen. Anecdotally and statistically from what ive seen this argument seems pretty skewed towards gays forcing christians to do things directly in conflict of their faith, and saying "ITS OVER DRUMPF IS BUSTING US ALL UP WITH EVIL DISCRIMINATION IM GONNA NEED TO MOVE TO CANADA OR GET LYNCHED" the moment they get any sort of backlash.

but thats just my two cents.

>>131501109
Christians are somehow magically incapable of bullying gays?

He is simply being forced to do his job equally for all customers. He wouldn't refuse to make a cake for an interracial wedding because the bible frowns on such marriages, would he? Colorado law bans discrimination by virtue of sexuality and this is clearly it. If he wants to discriminate against gays he must restructure his business to not be open to the public.

Imagine being in a small town with only one store of a certain type and they say they refuse to serve gays. We had it out with ALL these issues in the 1950s and 1960s regarding race and bigots lost every time. Why do you expect this will be different? If there are laws prohibiting discrimination, you must follow them. Religion is not an excuse for specific harm.

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>>131500822
In other words , those business/private owners...Don't actually "own" their business ?
Stupid fucking law...It basically means you have no freedom of association. Do all states have to follow this law or are their exceptions ?

>>131497787
That's where you are wrong bucko
In America, our rights are granted by God

>>131500649
Since I'm not a leaf, I got my car fixed without prepping a Chink.

The example with the mechanic involved a Christian being refused by a gay mechanic.

>>131500933
>if it's a private business then who the fuck cares?
The business is open to the public. Since fags are part of the public, they should be able to have transactions with that business like any other.

>>131499207
Sprinter vans are the tightest shit. But I might be biased as I drive one every day for work. I'm seriously more comfortable driving that van than my car.

>>131501285
>are their
"are there"...sorry

>>131498377
I feel like Gay isn't a religion, even though fags sure love to turn being gay into an identity to make up for their own short comings

>>131501285

I agree with you 100%. That law pretty much says your private business is not really yours. If I own it, why can't I turn away whoever I want?

>>131501085
tbf, Poland is a strong contender on any 15-worst countries in Europe list.

>>131501145
Non olet.

>>131501266
How about the men and women are bought in pairs for the cakes, and using two men messes up their stock.
Also, a gay cake isn't on the list of available cakes they offer.

If you want a gay cake, go to a gay cake store.

When did we get to the point where government has to infect every aspect of our daily lives? If someone doesn't want to serve me for any reason whatsoever, its their fucking right. If I want to boycott or spread negativity about a business, that's my right too. Government not fucking needed.

>>131501173
This is free market.
>>131500825
This is socialism.

>>131499394
What are you talking about? It's a business, there's no 'deserving to be able to inconvenience people.' He is taking the time and money to provide a mutually beneficial service to people and just like he could close the shop at any time he chooses and never serve anyone again, he can also choose to refuse service to someone because they are verbally abusive to him; they ask him to do work he doesn't want to do; his religious beliefs forbid him from doing the work and make him feel uncomfortable doing the work etc. Why do you think so many business have signs that say "we reserve the right to refuse service." It's because they aren't a government designated regional tradesman that has to provide service to an area, it's just a business run by a person who can refuse to serve anyone they want without stating any reason.

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>>131500918

>i'm not like those other muslims
>hijrah is a made up thing too! no real muslim practices this anymore :^)

Wtf I hate cake now

>Open a toy store
>sell children action figures, cards, etc...
>LGBTQ+ representative storms in, demands black dragon dildos
>Hate crime

Hmmmm........

>>131501363
>the business is open to the public
that's not how this works

it's a privately run business with no obligation to the public unlike government institutions, it should have the right to refuse service for literally any reason even if it's a stupid one

it's to the business' own determent anyway because the more they restrict customer traffic based on their own preferences, the more business they lose to competitors that don't filter people away

>>131501500
a truly free market would include having the right to choose who you do business with

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>>131501001
That post was so bad you gave everyone cancer. Including Tanto!

>>131501439
Well we will never beat you in
>ammount of turkish flags on street
>ammount of islamic terrorism acts
>ammount of women raped by mudslimes


Keep up the good work ahmed.

>>131501585
They don't reserve the right to refuse service on the basis of gender, race, or religion. Colorado has a law extending those protections in businesses open to the public to homosexuals. This case is as simple as that.

This is about upholding a state anti-discrimination law. If the Supreme Court (they won't) were to rule in favor of the baker, they would be claiming that states do not reserve the right to prohibit anti-gay discrimination at all, no matter what the local or state laws are. Supreme Court justices are not /pol/tard natsoc larpers.

>>131501767
Civil Rights Act. Also, Colorado has a state law mandating that all public accommodations (businesses open to the public) must not discriminate by sexual orientation.

>>131501423
>If I own it, why can't I turn away whoever I want?
That's what i don't understand.
It makes no sense to me. According to what you guys are telling me , it seems like this 1964 law is in direct conflict with your 1rst Amendment. (i.e. it's unconstitutional).

Maybe i'm wrong. (after all i'm not a US citizen) , but that's my only conclusion.

>>131501925
>Civil Rights Act

was a complete mistake and the country would be a better place without it

>>131501862
>Supreme Court justices are not /pol/tard natsoc larpers.
They also aren't retards who rank feelings before rights of others.

>>131501968
Do you seriously think the 5 justices I mentioned are going to overturn a state civil rights law?

>>131502020
Religion is literally feelings. You are not salvageable as a human being.

>>131501936
In 1985, national legislation was enacted to prohibit sexual orientation based discrimination in employment, housing and other public and private provisions of services and goods.[32] In July 2012, the French Parliament added sexual identity to the protected grounds of discrimination in French law. The phrase sexual identity was used synonymous with gender identity despite some criticism from ILGA-Europem who still considered it an important step.[33][34]

>>131502025
no, I don't

but that doesn't change anything I've said

>>131502048
>Do what I want because I'm gay otherwise I'll sue you
Wrong, kiddo.

its about time

fucking 3 years too late though

reminder:
gays never went to mosques or temples forcing them to marry

they also never went to jewish or muslim based bakeries and forced them to make cakes

gays are just using a power trip(they probably get off on it too) against christians

they are aware of the passivity of christians and will keep taking more and more if they arent stopped

it would be considered offensive to demand a muslim marry a homosexual

it would be against his faith and culture and you would be a biggot for suggesting such

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>>131502186
Get

Fucked

Breeder

>>131497524

You know it shouldn't be too hard to find a gay baker and make him bake a trump cake showing him leg dropping a rainbow or something.

>>131501767
>that's not how this works
Yes, it is exactly how it works. A business is open to the public and so is taking part in the public space. So the public can decide what businesses can take part in public space.

>privately run business with no obligation to the public
Businesses have lots of obligations to the public. What are you talking about?

>it's to the business' own determent anyway
True, yet there are still situations conceivable and likely in which forces distort the free market and make open discrimination on grounds of race, gender, sexuality, religion, etc. possible and even feasible. For those cases a general law forbidding these discriminations is necessary.

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>>131502152
I already know that we have no freedom in Europe.
However i'm suprised Americans are forced to deal with this nonsense. I always thought they had the freedom to do whatever the fuck they wanted with their own business.

Apparently not. They're not free to use their property however they want. Meaning it's not really their property. And they have no freedom of association.

>>131502048
>Religion is literally feelings. You are not salvageable as a human being.

And here you are wrong. Therefore you also can't understand why bakers do not want to make cake for gay wedding. I hope all those pro-LGBT laws will be discarded in your country.

>>131498377
Not even Christian and even I wouldn't want some faggot touching my car.

>>131502538
Property deemed to serve a public purpose, such as a bakery is held to higher standards. Churches and private clubs are more relaxed in their ability to discriminate. He should have been aware of the Colorado state law on businesses open to the public. He claims he is an artist so this is all about first amendment but Kennedy, who is the hinge vote here, has been on the side of gays in almost every instance.

In the 2010 case Christian Legal Society v. Martinez, the Court held that a public law college's policy requiring that all student organizations allow any student to join was constitutional. The Christian Legal Society wanted an exemption from the policy because the organization barred students based on religion and sexual orientation. Hastings College of Law refused to grant the exemption. The Court found that Hastings' policy was reasonable and viewpoint neutral. Kennedy wrote a concurrence joining the majority.

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>>131497524

Does anyone know a reputable gay baker?

Also cake design thread anyone?

>>131501266

>He wouldn't refuse to make a cake for an interracial wedding because the bible frowns on such marriages, would he?

biblical citation needed. my jewish-twisting-of-scripture detector is going off

>>131497524
>be Christian cakeshop
>some gender bending faggot comes in
>forces you to bake a cake or else a bad google review or legal proceedings
>agree to bake penis shaped rainbow cake with a leather clad guy on the top
>grab a bible tab all the parts about sodomy
>put in middle of cake
>appoligise that you lost your bible that day and give full refund
>happy in the knowledge that no fags will ever come to the shop again

>>131502479
>Yes, it is exactly how it works. A business is open to the public and so is taking part in the public space. So the public can decide what businesses can take part in public space.
>what is private property

>Businesses have lots of obligations to the public. What are you talking about?
They pay taxes, follow regulations, etc. Me and (I'm assuming) the other anon are suggesting deregulation.
>True, yet there are still situations conceivable and likely in which forces distort the free market and make open discrimination on grounds of race, gender, sexuality, religion, etc.
Literally how is choosing your clientele distorting the market? Companies deny service all the bloody time. We're talking about extending their rights in that regard.

>>131498377

"Gay machanic" I still almost fun as "Jew firefighter"

>>131497787
I want nothing more than to be able to kill faggots and other degenerates without repercussion from the law.

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>>131501085
Wait a minute.
Armenia is on that list, so it must be fake because I was told that Cenk Uygur killed all the Armenians. Or maybe it was just some of the members of his youtube team.

>>131503174
>Property deemed to serve a public purpose, such as a bakery is held to higher standards.
Regardless , private business owners are not subsidized by the government. They're not public servants.
This 1964 law essentially forces a private owner to act like a governmental entity.

Conclusion...Private ownership doesn't truely exist. And worst of all , freedom of association is also (apparently) considered as a crime.

Like you said , Churches & private clubs are more relaxed in their ability to discriminate. But this 1964 law is still in direct conflict with the 1rst amendment.

Were people able to discriminate before this 1964 law ? Again , maybe i don't fully understand how the 1rst amendment is supposed to work. But it just seems fishy to me.

>>131497524

OP you dumb fool they mean Muslims can. They'll still charge Christians.

>>131503435
I would love to see the lawsuit resulting from such actions if anyone dared pull shit that dumb.

>>131503490
Property is not only just about private ownership but also about a public purpose. Places deemed to have one and to be more or less open to all save those inappropriately dressed or behave have to follow certain standards. In Colorado that standard includes providing the same service for gays and straights. The only question is did refusing to make a gay wedding cake amount to refusing service on the basis of sexuality.

>>131503573
And thank gd the law is there.

>>131503674
Public servants in the sense of that they represent the state's standards to the public which include not discriminating against gays, by race, by religion, by gender etc.

This isn't about the Civil Rights Act. Colorado STATE law prohibits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

>>131503781
>And thank gd the law is there.
Whats wrong. Afraid to actually say HIS name?

>>131498377
>How do you feel about a gay mechanic refusing to fix the car of a Christian?
Indiffere t since the Christian can take his business elsewhere; much in the same way fags can go to other bakeries for their wedding cakes

>>131503781
I mentioned that businesses refuse service all the time because the last anon mentioned market distortion, which was a non-sequitur.

How would refusing service to people based on their sexuality/race distort markets?

>>131503781
Not if its deemed an accident! Like a finger nail or other foriegn body.

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>>131504189
Lol nobody is dumb enough to believe the exact pages of the bible where being gay is mentioned just happened to find their way into a gay wedding cake, apart from stormfags.

>>131504101
We actually do have civil rights laws.

>Federal Civil Rights Act of 1964
>No Discrimination of race, color, religion or national origin.

You can refuse service to someone not wearing shoes or a shirt, but you cannot refuse service to a muslim or a negro.
Although, I don't believe homosexuality is a religion or race yet.

Also you could just run your business as a private club, and only allow everyone except negros and muslims membership into the club. Clubs can discriminate against anyone for any reason.

>>131503781
>This isn't about the Civil Rights Act. Colorado STATE law prohibits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

Same difference. To me , it essentially means that freedom of association doesn't exist. And that private owners don't actually own their business. (since they have no right to discriminate and are forced to act as governmental entities).

No matter how you twist it or try to rationalise this "bake my cake" situation , that's what i'm personally able to graps with my limited IQ.

I'm a very simple person. Either i have freedom of association or i don't. Granted , there seems to be some exceptions. (churches...)

But this is bullshit. Then again...Maybe i shouldn't be totally surprised. Since "capitalism" doesn't actually exist. Even in America.

Everything is regulated.

(since Capitalism doesn't invlove a central bank price-fixing interest rates or manipulating assets.)or taxation on income , corporate bailouts or Quantitative easing. (i.e. printing money/counterfeiting).

Was there ever a time in American history when people actually had genuine freedom of association and real capitalism ? Well , you guys may have many regulations but i guess it's better than Europe at least. (better than nothing)

But it bothers me how people still have the balls to say that "private" businesses exist....They don't.

>>131504669
>But it bothers me how people still have the balls to say that "private" businesses exist....They don't.
Privately owned businesses do exist.

Also we have clubs which require membership that function like stores, Sams club for example.
You have to have a club membership and pay fees to enter the store.

At least get your facts straight before you try to act snooty french fry.

>>131497524
>discriminate
Making your own choices is considered a negative. How did we let this happen in America?

>>131497524
They should bake cake
Go to mosques and Muslim business and ask to get gay marriage or gay blessing or gay cakes!

Americans are retarded. The only way ro defeat is Islam is expose Islam

Imagine all those fedora tipping faggots "muh crusades muh colonialism" learning about the Muslim slave trade, Muslim Arab conauests of levant anatolia north Africa India...

Why is this even an issue?
>go to bakery
>ask for a wedding cake
>replace wife with groom or vice versa after the cake is finished

>>131498290
Define discrimination. Also please show me the part of the Constitution that forces a business to carry out transactions with people.

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>>131504826
>Privately owned businesses do exist.
Maybe they "kinda" do. (with some exceptions).
But generally speaking...They don't.
Had that been the case , this "bake my cake" story wouldn't even be an issue in the first place.
The private business owner wouldn't just have a sign such as this one (see image attached). End of story.

>>131505119
lol That's the point. It was always political and it was always about fucking with another group. Cultural Marxism.

>>131505255
>wouldn't just have a sign
"would"

>>131498377
>the absolute state of leftist arguments and analogies

>>131498290
>Colorado has a state law prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
This can be repealed and it will be very soon. Trust me bigly on that.

>>131498377
Then he doesn't get my $$ and I go to another mechanic. Fine with me but I'm not a big baby jew faggot.

>>131501096
I agree with you, business is business. I am Christian and would serve a gay customer with no problem, but nobody should be forced to do it if they don't want to based on religious preference. Should Muslims be forced to sell pork products because the customer demands it and they are the only grocery store in town? Should a jewish business be forced to be opened on Saturday even if its against their religious practice to do so because they are the only place in town that sells pastrami sandwiches and Joe Plumber decides he wants one on Saturday?

>>131505210
This is state law, not federal. States can do what they want since this law against gay discrimination applies only in Colorado.

Discrimination is the deliberate refusal of equal treatment.

>>131505255
>flips singled out
lel

>>131505289
>Cultural Marxism
I never understood that. I mean I see how it's marxism, but how is this more "cultural" than before? Replacing the booshwazee with muh patriarchy or muh heteronormative society doesn't make anything more "cultural".

>>131499207
Okay, grandpa. Have fun with your 25 second 0-60.

>>131505289
>Cultural Marxism.
It's egalitarian, has nothing to do with Marxism. I'll be laughing my ass off at you idiots when the Muslims start using your SCOTUS ruling against you, because according to the law, they can!

>>131498377
Plenty of mechanics to go to.

>>131506428
Near as I can tell it's more directed at the culture it's self rather than just trying to get the haves and have nots to fight. Fragment further perhaps? I don't know. Half asleep. Good luck and good night.

>>131501670
>hijrah
That's literally the event where Moe went from one place to the other.
This is the most made up thing of all times.

Come on, tell me how many central Asian, Balkan, Iranian, or even Chinese muslims mass migrated to Europe/America?

The only doing this are arabs, pakis and Negros, but then again, the negros do it regardless of religions for gibs.

>implying that even half of them read their own holy book
>implying that most even give a fuck

Lest we forget, Christianity is focused on a borderless communist society under Christ, what different is that? How many Christians give a fuck about that?

>>131507691
>Christianity is focused on a borderless communist society
ah no. Communism wants The State to be the religion and messiah. Find a better metaphor.

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>>131499833
>>131505336
>>131505575
>>131507122
>ill just go to sumwhere else :^)
If this ever happened to you though you would rush straight to /pol/ and enact the exact same scenario from nigger walk comics.

>hey pol
>you wouldn't BELIEVE what happened so I went to a mechanic and I was refused service because I WAS CHRISTIAN!
>HOW IS THIS LEGAL??? HOW DOES THIS MAKE YOU NOT WANT TO GAS THE JEWS???

>>131508469
No I wouldn't. Because I'm not an entitled prick like yourself.

if a company doesn't get tax dollars from the government, they have no obligation to the public. this shouldn't even be debated.

>>131497524
You should have to seel the same base product you sell to everyone else. You shouldn't have to put two men on twop but you should have to sell the same thing you would to a heterosexual couple to a gay couple. You shouldn't make anyone alter the cake in a way that would go against their beliefs like putting anazi floag on it, but you should have to provide the same base product for everyone.

Just bake the stupid cake and stop crying about

>muh religious beliefs
>Baker is against gay marriage cuz God
>He's Christian
>Christ never once mentioned gays or gay marriage
>Jesus condemned divorce saying those who divorced and re-married are committing adultery.
>Dude sells cakes to divorcees remarrying

That's just stupid hypocrisy.

What's next a pharmacy refusing to sell condoms to a gay dude because it will be used in gay sex? People need to mind their own business.

If they ask who you're getting maried to, you should be able to say none of your damn business, give me the cake you freak.

>be gay rights advocate
>legitimately believe that the standard civil/human rights do not apply to gay people because they're lesser people
>campaign to enforce overwhelming priveliges to a small group at the expense of the freedoms of other people
>everyone somehow thinks you're the good guy

I don't get it.

>>131497524
Religious freedom to Christians on the right just translates to Christian supremacy, which is stupid and hypocritical.

These same exact fuckwads are the ones who protest against the building of Mosques, we've babied religious folks far too much. It's time for Churches to pay taxes and for religious people to keep their shit out of the workplace.

>>131508927
Or they could just bake the worst cake ever with no rainbows or anything correct. Add extra baking soda and give them a cake as fucked up as their faggot marriage. If I were gay I'd go to a friendly baker not one that will poison the wedding party.

>>131497524
Do you want a Cream Pie?

>>131508653
Cry moar how jews, muslims, gays, feminists, liberals are destroying the west and the white race.
Oh wait, you're not entitled to your existence. Nevermind.

>>131509155
>as fucked up as their faggot marriage. If I were gay
Stopped reading right there. That alone shows you are a fucking idiot, you mock the marriage and then talk about what you would do.

You have no idea what you would do you retarded autist.

Most gay people don't ask for rainbows they just want the simple wedding cake. Jesus Christ.

>>131499394
>small rural town faggot
lmao better stay well away, he probably eats people too or something

>>131509252
Not crying because I'm not a little bitch. You however are crying a giant gay river.

>>131509325
I'd bake it with exlax so they could really enjoy the honeymoon. Fucking degenerate.

>>131509095
>legitimately believe that the standard civil/human rights do not apply to gay people because they're lesser people
What?

>campaign to enforce overwhelming priveliges to a small group at the expense of the freedoms of other people
>"but mooooom, what do you mean I cannot discriminate against niggers and faggots? I should have freedom to do that!"

>>131509394
White people should be institutionally discriminated like blacks were in America and like jews were in Nazi Germany.
>w-well that's okay. f-free market will fix it.

>>131509633
Fine with me.We'll keep all the good white stuff on our side and you niggers can live in Detroit.

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>>131498933
>doesn't have the slightest idea of how free enterprise actually works
Shoo shoo

>own bakery
>one day some swishmeister comes in with a limp wrist and a lisp
>wants a gay cake
>"fuck off down the road, faggot"
>lawsuit filed
>gotta do this court shit
>have a plan
>have someone sprinkle some roaches
>a patron finds one
>"LEL OH NO LEL"
>"Sorry, but we have to go out of business"
>fags shit outta luck
>fags will felch shitty cum outta each other's asses, but wont eat roach cakes
>while doing court, tell judge that the business is ruined and we have to close for good
>"sorry, but I can't make a cake with no business"
>no cakes for fags
>suit thrown out
>a year or two later open up a bbq joint

>>131509325
>>131509113

Man, you are one triggered faggot.

>>131497787
>tfw never had a problem with gays
>tfw their arrogance is pissing me off

Day of the rope, fag!

>>131497787
>breyer
>ginsburg
>kennedy

all will be gone by 2020

suck it faggots, your days are numbered. the right wing will rule America for 50 years, especially once the deportation force is in full swing.

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>>131509470
>gays
>lesser people
>rights

>>131509633
>>131509470
You are a disgrace to the Serbian people and nation. Please go kill your self so you may stop bringing shame and disgrace to the great nation of Serbia. I hope you get bashed to death by a bunch of feral gypsies.

I hope they uphold the ruling so I can go to the gay guys bakery in town and force him to bake me cakes with increasingly hostile bible:Quran verses on them. If he refuses just once, I'll sue.

>>131508927

Or how about I refuse to bake the cake because it's my decision, and you go somewhere else, you big crybaby?

Only control freaks and vindictive whiners file lawsuits over not getting cake.

Hope you guys are prepared to lose. You'll bake their fucking cake, and you'll like it.

>>131499077
So how is it that gays arent likewise protected in the case of the cake?

>>131512346

gay isnt a religion, its a mental illness.

>>131497524
COOK MY DAMN BACON

>>131512867
that's your opinion and you're probably a dipshit

>>131498377
Hahaha, funny joke Hans. We all know limp wrists don't do blue collar work.

The real reason they say no to these cakes is because they dont want to have their customers and or children(other children as well) see some most likely phallic homo erotic shit shaped cake. And or have to handle any gay dick stuff themselves. I'm like 90% if it was a normal cake that said shit like "Happy anniversary" or something they wouldnt care.

>>131502048
>Religion is literally feelings.
Wrong.
Homosexuality, on the other hand...

>>131497524

This is it, boys, Kennedy is retiring so he's going to retire on giving a FUCK YOU to the kike slave fag community.

Alternatively, they'll all agree that only the religion of peace should get these exemptions since Christians don't decapitate and blow people up.

>>131498290
>Civil

Yes it is. Freedom of Association. It just isn't one of the three rights that libtards believe is in the Constitution.

>>131498377
>How do you feel about a gay mechanic refusing to fix the car of a Christian?

Feels like freedom. The Constitution prohibits involuntary servitude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGDn-yVlW-o&list=PL3LlLGmHLeYG6JAe0Aokyhz27r2MTpi_U&index=18

>>131513429
>>131513429
it is feelings, it's fictional camelshit. homosexuals are actually existing, contributing members of your society.

>>131513429
How is religion any less muh feels than sexuality?

>>131497524
ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

>>131500448
Audi A2 was like this

>>131498933
Do you know how many people will become Christian again when they see Christianity being persecuted like that?

>>131500822
Ahhhhhhhh
That explains everything. Dump that law.

>>131509325
And most Christian cake bakers don't want to service a gay wedding.
Do remember "service" requires them to bring the cake to the wedding and set it up, possibly more. If they don't want to service a wedding they are not comfortable with, they don't have to.

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>be Michelagelo

>get paid to paint church for 20 years

>gay couple shows up and wants me to paint their church

>court forces me to work into my 90s painting gay scenes beacuse I once accepted money to paint custom pics for someone elese

>>131512867

>t. 16 year old closeted queer

Do you parents know you sleep with men?

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>>131515044
stellar comparison, I applaud you

>>131514837
How about just selling a cake by itself and not servicing the wedding? Should that not be required?
>>131514486
Persecution? Oh please, Christian persecution this days means

>Starbucks isn't being festive enough wahhh
>A clerk said Happy Holidays instead of Merry christmas, you have to wish me a Merry Christmas wahhh
>We can't hang the Ten Commandments in te courtroom waaah

This "persecution" is just pussies whining because they're mad they can't force other people to adhere to their beliefs.

If you want to see religious persecution travel to the Middle East, Africa, or North Korea someday. I think every Christian who thinks Christinaity or Christmas are under attack in America should journey to te Mid East, Africa and North Korea to give them a wake up call. Fucking pathetic.

>>131514486

Not among younger groups you idiot, church attendance is and continues to be in decline, fucking cakes is not going to get people in the pews.

The less Jews on the court, the better.

>>131515044
Michaelangelo was gay you fucking moron.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1cRgCIRqjM

>>131511813
You're not even from America, thus your flag hiding whatever shit hole you actually come from.

There needs to be a filter added to /pol/ for people to filter out any posts by anyone who hides their nation of origin.

>>131503752

Yup - this isn't for the benefit of Christians but to enable Muslim cashiers to refuse to sell booze or bacon or Muslim shopkeeper to ban women from their stores.

>>131515549
>Starbucks isn't being festive enough wahhh
>A clerk said Happy Holidays instead of Merry christmas, you have to wish me a Merry Christmas wahhh
>We can't hang the Ten Commandments in te courtroom waaah
>This "persecution" is just pussies whining because they're mad they can't force other people to adhere to their beliefs.
>If you want to see religious persecution travel to the Middle East, Africa, or North Korea someday. I think every Christian who thinks Christinaity or Christmas are under attack in America should journey to te Mid East, Africa and North Korea to give them a wake up call. Fucking pathetic.

all these satirical "whining like a bitch" complaints, but at the same time you think "wahhhhhh they won't bake my cake" is a valid one?

>>131498506
But you drive a fag car.

This is just the average GoFundMe kickstarter or wedding registry. They seek out the shop that won't serve them. There are plenty of fat friendly bakers. I can promise you that. This is a money grab and attention getter for them.

>>131501085
Doesn't Italy have the Vatican, the capital of the fag religion?

>>131497524
>>131497524
I've actually been to that cakeshop in Colorado, they claim their business is failing because of this, but anyone who is familiar with the area knows this place has been in freefall for years now. The cakes are overpriced and mediocre. Knowing people in the area this couple doesn't give a fuck about gay marriage, they wanted their names in the paper so they would receive free money from sympathetic Christians across America.

Idiots keep getting scammed by this bullshit.

>We're being persecuted for our beliefs
>Go to our kickstarter or gofundmepage purdy plz

Cucks come pouring in. You can side with this couple or against them for whatever reason or principle you wish to defend, but just know for them personally this isn't about gays or religious liberty or even about Christianity, but trying to take advantage of the political climate to earn a buck for an already failing business.

Just don't be duped into thinking their intentions are for Christians everywhere. If these two thought thery could make bank off of selling to gays they would be.

Just giving you a perspective from a native of the area rather than from the news which you get lost in the talking heads shouting at each other.

>>131498377
it should be his right as a business owner

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>>131500061
That is because every basic bitch and retarded fagboy is "gay" for about 2 years somewhere in their 20's so long as it gets them more attention and allows them to virtue signal.

Kids see that and g "wow! gay people are everywhere! Maybe I'm gay too!". Except they're not, they just want to be popular like the flaming faggots walking the halls, little do they know that attention comes at a steep price.

When they realize no one gives a shit anymore or they want an actual job and/or kids they drop the fucking act and sort their shit out while praying to Christ no one brings up their days of degeneracy lest it ruin their lives forever, or they just crank up the stupid and turn into tumblrinas who call themselves misteress xir of apache attack helicopterland and then they can't figure out why the world hates them.

>>131501925
LGBTQPI whatever is not covered under the civil rights act as it's a behavior; not a condition of birth or beyond your control.

If it is a behavior beyond your control then that's classified as a mental disorder or genetic disease. Then it would be covered. And treatments would be a necessity to function in society.

The problem here is compelled speech. You have to sell a cake to anyone but they can't make you customize it in way you disagree with

Can someone please go to a muslim bakery and ask for a pig cake with allahs name on it

>>131517582
You're an idiot. There's no sauce on that you made that crap up.

>>131517640
You clearly don't know what a mental illness is. god how to people like you get to be so fucking dumb. Homosexuality the attraction is not a choice, there is no treatment that alters it, and also not all mental illnesses can be treated sociopathy and psychopathy cannot be treated.

You conflated and convoluted an entire argument in only three sentences.

I love how people who know zilch about psychology or psychiatry love throwing around the term mental illness when they don't even know how the classifications and characteristics of a mental illness. You miss are retarded.

>>131506353
Businesses reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

>>131518346
>You're an idiot. There's no sauce on that you made that crap up.
You'll get over it in about 2 years faggot.
You're not special, no one cares about you.

>>131518045
These peopl are refusing the mere sale of the cake, but I agree with your sentiment, the base product should always be sold but you can't force people to decorate something in a way that goes against their convictions. If you're against gay marriage you should sell the same cakes you would to a heterosexual but refuse to put two men on top or whatever and let the couple do that themselves.

>>131518441
I'm over 30, you moron. I've never felt a thing for a woman my entire life, and have had feeligns for men since I was ten. And plenty of people care about me, maybe not you, but you don't matter to me.

>>131518627
Ok then so your just a full blown faggot then.
You're a problem that will solve itself given time.

What is your point?

>>131518517
I read they offered to sell a blank cake with supplies to customize it and the couple said no. I could be wrong though

>>131517582
>>131517582
>basic bitch
>using the word basic

Hello mary, you just gave yourself away. Only chicks and gay dudes say "basic". You must be just this side of 18 as well with that puerile speech you gave there.

>>131499977
Butterface

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>>131518860
Shit man you got me, I'll just take my costas, tank top and double fisted starbucks elsewhere...

>>131518850
I think the gay couple would be in the wrong if that was the case, but if the bakers refuse the product any ol' joe can get then they're in the wrong.

For example a person who sells t-shirts must sell any of their designs to anyone off the street, however you cannot demand them to make a design that they would disagree with.

I think in this "religious liberty" debacle we have to just cut the proverbial baby in half by giving neither side a full victory so to speak.

>>131497524
I like this guy's argument the best as far as what a business or service must provide and what they shouldn't have to provide. He provides a good standard that doesn't favor the Christians or the gays in every situation.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2017/05/15/print_shops_shouldn_t_have_to_make_gay_pride_t_shirts.html

>>131513255
>Gay is a religion
OK, good luck defending that in court

>>131499188

It would only force someone to provide the services in question. Personally I'm for gay rights, but folks ought to be able to choose who they provide exceptional service to. They're also presumably being paid, so it's not slavery.

For example, a hotel should allow a gay couple to stay in a room the same as they would allow a straight couple, however a wedding cake maker should be allowed to refuse due to the active role they take in creating that cake. I'm not sure such a standard can be defined by the courts though.

>>131498377
Perfectly fine.

>>131501925
Slight correction faggot ; nobody is discriminating on the basis of you being a fag, they are refusing a very specific service (baking a gay cake for a gay wedding) due to their religious beliefs. If you were a straight person who asked for a fag cake, you'd still be denied, so it has nothing to do with your orientation and everything to do with the specific service you're asking which isnt covered by CRA.

So go shove your victim complex up your stretched ass and gtfo of /pol/

>>131498994
Because we have to constantly remind fucking liberal idiots that the constitution says what it says.

>>131501925
>Colorado
REALLY WISH CALIFORNIA LIBS WOULD GET THE HELL OUT OF MY STATE

>>131498377

Anyone in here who has a problem with one and not the other is a hypocrit.

Any small business owner should be able to refuse service to a potential customer on whatever grounds they see fit. Don't like their sexual preference? You have the right to say no. Their religion? Go ahead and say no. They come in wearing the wrong team's jersey? Your business, your rules.

Polite refusal of service cannot reasonably be construed as harm in a legal sense and prohibiting a private individual from exercising their agency in that regard is unjust.

>>131498377
His right as a business owner. If he wants to dress up like one of the village people and act like a faggot while rubbing his bare chest down with used motor oil he's welcome to do so.

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>>131498377
>gay mechanic

>>131501077
As someone who hates Muslims, you sound ignorant and would be dismissed as uninformed if you ever said something about taqiyya in a debate.

>>131500469
>>131500469
>Gay men
>not deviants
ti si mekan

>>131498377
Come on, kraut.
It's not normal to depict gays as crazy and irresponsible in the mainstream world.
They are normal people just like you and I... unless that perception has changed?

>>131519138
I think you and I are on the same page. The details of the case would be the deciding factor. This isn't even a religious issue to me. If you have a store the items on display can be bought by anyone but you don't have to make anything special for anyone. Just like taco bell won't make you a big Mac

>>131497524
Fuck all these people. It's all just grandstanding.
There's bound to be gay bakers/ friends who can bake a fabulous cake.
Doing business isn't "condoning" anything.

>>131499316
>Yeah sure. Let's say the Christian wants big crosses installed on his car or something. Something purely optic, like an inscription on a cake.
I don't feel like I'm gonna add anything to the discussion but yeah , he should have the right to refuse. Just like the cake , it's a special service that you are asking him and as it is his business , he is entitled to do whatever he wants with it.
Seriously , is that how low all leftists arguments are?

As if anyone in burger-land takes their religion even remotely seriously to begin with.

I iced a cake with Jesus being burned I got beat up.
Fucking Christ cucks

>>131520069
The way we define religion in this country is really fucked up as far as criteria go.

Also I think it's bull that Native American religions have been ruled against when it comes to religious practices but Christian and Jewish Churches are almost always ruled in favor of when it comes to rituals, like drinking wine underage at events.

>>131497787
>sexual minorities
why is this even a thing? why should society and the state care what degenerates do in their bedrooms? just admit you're defective and go on with your scummy lives

>>131524078
The Muslims and Jews do and the Evangelicals do. But the Evangelicals are retarded. If you survey them of all denominations of Christianity they know just as much if not less about the bible than your common Atheist. Anf if you give them a set of statements one made by Jesus and the other made by the Pharisees they overwhelmingly side with the Pharisees. Evangelicals are basically dumb Jews because they adhere primarily to OT and ignore the NT.

>>131524828
One man's defect is another man's bliss and glory.

>>131500582
>I go into a Muslim bakery and order a cake depicting Mohammed eating a pork chop for my birthday. Should the Muslim be forced to depict my imagery?
>but annon , that's not tolerant toward their beliefs
Lefties are disioative as fuck. They have double standards for everything and you literally can't argue with them.

>>131501363
>Not a leaf
>German is better

Canada and Germany may both be trying to destroy themselves, but you faggots are trying to bring everyone else down with you.

I've got a rake for the leaves; whenever the world needs to clean up Germany's mess, you need an invasion.

>>131518346
Based on your reaction, mental illness or genetic disease is a valid argument against your deviancies. Thanks

>>131497524

This whole thing just seems like a waste of time. Does it really matter whether or not McDonald's can refuse service to Christians? Or, by race or sex even? This is definitely free-market-correction territory. For every company that bans men, there will be a company that bans women, and it will sort itself out. Who the fuck cares? People who make these decisions can deal with the consequences. I don't see why we're dragging the supreme court into it.

>>131515183
faggotry is a mental illness, people are free to ignore homos. you should stop sucking dick, it's damaging your brain