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Tax on canadian lumber - part 2

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Yo wtf are you doing burgers?

http://www.northislandgazette.com/business/u-s-adds-another-border-tax-to-b-c-lumber/
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>>131455483
Raking.
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>>131455483
We told you the shit posting needed to stop.
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You guys think a trade war is coming?
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>>131455566
Full house get
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>>131455891
I'm feeling a trade defeat coming.
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You know "America first" meant the United States of America, right? We didn't mean the shit continental countries like Honduras, Canada, and Mexico.
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>>131455940
this

Canada hasn't paid it's fair share in a while. It's time.
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>>131455483
you can blame your PMs socks
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>>131455483
>canada has no gold
>canadian oil is worthless
>canada's biggest lumber customer has told them to fuck off

bright future ahead for you guys
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Why is Trump picking on easy target and not on China or Mexico, could he be to much of a pussy?
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>>131455483
>he thought it was North America First

this is payback for not keeping your liberal shitholes in check
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>>131456256
Trump is a kike puppet and need to bully weak countries to satisfy his retarded base.
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>>131456256
Because picking on Canada is like locking your retarded half brother in the shed until he eats his own shit. It isn't hard, but all your friends think it's funny
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>>131456256
>implying hurting Canadian businesses doesn't directly impact the Chinese.

Two birds with one stone, Chang.
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>>131456147
>not paid our fair share
>The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $12.5 billion in 2016.

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada
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We're kick-starting your housing/economic collapse so we can blame you and the chinks for the global depression that is coming around August-September.
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We're dealing with China now. Fuck the US
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>>131456445
Why do you think the US owes you anything? Maybe some sovereignty would be good for us. Have you ever been a free independent nation in your entire history? Being Britain or the US's toady sidekick doesn't count.
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>>131455483
Fuck you leaf
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>>131456543
>we're dealing with China now

How's that working out for you now? Enjoying your multimillion dollar shacks?
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>>131456543
Nigga of course you're dealing with China. You need a place to rent from Mr. Wong, don't you leaf?
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>>131456551
lmao, you morons think you will win.

You will lose. Canada has defeated America in court on this issue time and time again. The end result will be that America will have to pay billions in damages to Canada, and Canadian timber producers.
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In all fairness, the US has a lot of lumber too so they should be encouraging their own industry. We have based our entire economy around being the world's natural resource whore, we fucked up.
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>>131456699
>in court
Under what authority? Who's gonna fight it? Your PM is too busy dancing around pride parades in a burka.
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>>131455483
Typical Americans too dumb to realise they can't build houses unless they have our lumber
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>>131456551
>>131456551
> Have you ever been a free independent nation in your entire history?
Been for 150 years now. How about you? Being a puppet to the kikes is not independence.
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>>131456786
What is the WTO and NAFTA
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>>131456786
this
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>>131455483
>elect trump lol see what we care!
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>>131456859
Horrible deals. We're gonna renegotiate em. The time of taking advantage of us is over. Big league.
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Next we're going to tariff the shit out of your maple syrup. Pay your fair share.
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>>131455483
>Yo wtf are you doing burgers?
We kept warning you about the day of the take.
It's here, faggot.
Get raked.
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>>131456678
You do realize they export it right? China is salavating at this
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>>131456699
>>131456859
>give an industry state subsidies to make it competitive
>think the WTO will be on your side
day of the rake
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>>131456816
Yeah because we don't have enough trees here. The whole country is like Manhattan.
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>>131456938
You aren't going to renegotiate shit.Trump has bowed down to globalists and will do fuck all. You elected a cheat. He doesn't give a shit about America any more, his entire staff is filled with globalist shills.

NAFTA will be expanded, not renegotiated.

TISA will be signed.

The wall will not be built.

Immigration will be expanded not reduced.

You are fucked, Trump will not change the trajectory America is on.
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Time to pay your

FAIR SHARE
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>>131457048
I'm not sure that entangling themselves with China even further is the solution. China is the reason their country is about to go into a depression as it is.
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>>131457050
>literally the fifth time we'll take you to court and win
haven't learned your lesson yet? prepared to get leafed
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>>131456405
Kek
You bitches sound salty as fuuuuuuuuuck
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>>131457113
>NAFTA will be expanded, not renegotiated.
>TISA will be signed.
>The wall will not be built.
>Immigration will be expanded not reduced.
Maybe, but you still gonna pay tariffs on your cuckwood, Ethan.
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>>131457113
Pay softwood debnts.
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>>131457050

The "subsidy" was found to be less than 1% which the WTO allows for. They have sided with us and will side with us again.
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>>131457172
you'll be first in the trashbag
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>>131457249
He just cracks me up. I feel bad for canada but I also laugh.
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>>131455483
bend the knee
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>>131457352
You sound like a bigot.
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>>131455483
I am glad. We are being taxed to death by our government, Trump is taxing the Canadian Government to death.
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>>131455483
I think you know.
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>>131456816
My good friend is a logger so I'm glad cause it's gonna help him.
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We should stop sending them oil and electricity, and sink their boats near Alaska.
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>>131455483
Fuck off leaf. Eat our taxes bitches
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>>131456856
Pop quiz:
1) Who is Canada's official head of state?

2) Who appoints Canadian Supreme Court justices?
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>>131457272
>a leaf lying about their government giving their logging industry free reign of their public lands
you're going in the same trashbag as the other leaf
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Does this mean that the are going to give china all their wood like they gave china everything else?
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>>131455483
Making Trudeau look like the incompetent fuck he is so that you all will impeach him.
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>>131455483
who would have thought that to succesfully remove leaves, all we woudl need to do is stop their trees
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>>131456405
This could be true and I still don't hate it. Canadians know they're the weakest country LOL
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>>131456856
>if you're everyone's bitch, you're nobodies bitch
leaf education
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>>131455483
Burgered
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>>131455891
>trade war
>war
In the same way that a professional boxer punching a toddler is a "war", then sure.
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Meh I guess americans won't need lumber since they'll be living in mudhut soon
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>>131455483
>We are building the Wall
>And Canada's gonna pay for it
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>>131455483
Congress didn't pass anything about tariffs, though
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>>131455483
This is what Trudeau gets for fucking Ivanka's brains out. Trump is just jealous.
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>piss off your largest trading partner
>they stop trading with you
>economy implodes

ameridumbs
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>>131457768
youll be living in bamboo, chang
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>>131457478
What are you gonna do? Sick your Muslims on us?
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>>131456699
You are such a pussy
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>>131455891
>trade war
>m-m-maple syrup
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>>131456256
He cucked out on China and Mexico pretty hard didn't he
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>>131457548
that's bullshit, they have to pay to harvest trees. Do a little fucking research instead of spewing bullshit.
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>>131457802
>yfw we use Georgian oak and cascadian redwood lumber specifically to rub it in Canada's face
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>>131456445
I doubt there is a single important country in the world that Canada has a trade surplus over
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>>131457478
We don't need shit from you people. And your leader... the mind is weak.
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>>131457935
so what do the ledger's look like? when one of the logger's gets fucked in the ass for permission to take some trees off of public land do both him and the government bureaucrat list the transaction as an expense?
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>>131457843
>He doesn't think the US could go full autarky if needed
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>>131458173
great argument
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Shouldn't you burgers be doing something to me and my new best friends Germany and China? Still no wall over here, you know.
You're hurting the only country that isn't sick of your shit.
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>>131458173

It is an expense for the private company, but not for the public as it is all replanted.

https://opentextbc.ca/geography/chapter/7-5-forest-tree-tenures/

Here's a brief article on the topic.
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>>131455483
Need more border tax on Canada. I prefer my lumber to love freedom of speech.
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Soon.
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>>131457592
My sides. Underrated as fuck
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>>131458400
lol this

meanwhile the trump family is doing all their manufacturing in mexico and china

lying hypocrite globalists
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>>131458259
You literally couldn't, Cletus.
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>>131458478
thats a big hockey puck
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>>131457768
Canadian lumber is soft and full of diseases, just like your faggot leader Trudeau.
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>>131455891
>trade war
War implies there will be a conflict. It will be us putting your commie faggot muslim loving cum nigger in a Wall of Jerico and your entire country's economy collapsing in under a week.
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Leafs are worse than Australia when it comes to global warming hysteria

Leafs cut down fucktons of trees (the antidote to their hysteria) and sell them cheaper than Cambodian hookers.

It's time somebody taxed some sense into leaf land.
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>>131456938
>The time of taking advantage of us is over. Big league.
You wot. USA has always taken advantage of Canadian resources since the fucking booming 20s and before.
Get your head out of your ass, I hope we tariff you fuckers to death! Maybe then our people can unite against USA funded globalist bullshit
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>>131455483


BUY AMERICAN
HIRE AMERICAN
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>>131456256
He's a bully leafbro, he's just doing what he does.

Have you ever seen a bully that attacks the 6 foot 6 basketball player?
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>>131457050
If you had any clue you'd know it's the US grossly subsidizing their lumber and STILL being outcompeted by Canadian lumber.

You didn't cut yours down sustainably, and you have little old growth you can actually harvest. It's not Canada's fault that we have a superior product that everyone wants to buy.
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>>131458804
LOL
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Didn't Justin just invest 600 million Canadian dollars into the Canadian lumber industry? I distinctly remember it being a sterling example of how you can be part of the Paris climate agreement and not give a shit about the environment.
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>>131458769
Canada is the basically the next Haiti as they deforest their entire country for pennies.
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>>131458277
you're right, they probably both list it as income.
>>131458401
The regulatory structure is irrelevant, the entire reason this is an issue is because canada practically gives logging rights away for free and the US does not permit it on public land.
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>>131459157
No Canada does not give it away for free. r

But you've already made up your mind so I'm not even going to continue and argue with you since there's no point.
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>the anti-dumping rate is 7.72 per cent on Canfor, 7.53 per cent on Tolko, 6.76 per cent on West Fraser, 4.59 per cent on Quebec-based Resolute and 6.87 for all others

Literally nothing for USA but kills the leaf
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Does anyone else feels pity for the delusional burgers that keep pretending to have won anything by electing Trump, even though since his presidential campaign up to now everything he has done has been either underwhelming, pointless or a sraight fucking shitshow?
Yor lads need to stop your idol worshp and take his actions seriously.
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>>131459409
yeah, it reflects pretty badly on them. I am sick of people who refuse to change their mind on any issue despite overwhelming evidence(>>131459157)

/pol/ has the exact same flaws as the leftists they hate so much.
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>>131459409
You seem upset. Perhaps you'll make it across the border next time.
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>>131459409
they're cucks desperately trying to cling to anything close to a "win" while trump repeatedly stabs them in the back
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>>131459622
I'm glad you're getting along with your future neighbor.
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>>131459596
Considering there are no proper obstacles and your goverment doesn't seem interested in stopping me, I probably will.
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>>131458944
LOL XDDDDD EBIN SIBLY EBIN
UPBOAT
YOU SURE SHOWED HIM WHOS BOSS XDDDD
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>>131459308
Unsurprising that a leaf can't read simple english.
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>>131459875
>American geography
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>tarrifs on timber
>from the syrup slurpers of all people
Something about this seems fishy. I doubt Canada is paying it's lumberjacks less than the US or any kind of crafty shit like that so why bother with a tariff. This reeks of corporate lobbyists
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>>131460070
>Canadian intelligence

Read my post again.
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I can't remember the last time we heard good news in Canada
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>>131459576
You've presented no evidence to contradict my factual statements, you stupid chug.
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>>131456039
kek I'm so glad to be living in the Age of Trump
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>>131460015
great argument, my fellow #based faggot!!
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>>131460242
>facts
>canada practically gives logging rights away for free
you have to go back if you can't argue with facts
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>>131455891
No doubt and i wouldnt really call it a "war". Canada is too weak and too reliant on America. It really is a no brainer for a business saavy president like trump to exploit the situation.
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These trade problems are good. Trump needs to know that we will take our shingle out of the US and sell are uranium (fuck trees are a distraction) to some one else.
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>>131460100
canadian logging companies pay peanuts to their government to get access to the lumber.
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>>131460218
I found a 20$ bill on the ground once. Its been downhill since then.
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>>131455483

good, fuck BC

fucking leaders there let the gooks take over vancouver.

FUCK BC
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>>131460394
if you put the listerine down for 30 seconds and took a deep breath you'd find that the facts are on my side.
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>>131456039

This isn't good for the USA, though.
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>>131460242
>In March 2006, a NAFTA panel ruled in Canada's favor, finding that the subsidy[timber from government lands] to the Canadian lumber industry was de minimis, i.e., a subsidy of less than one percent. Under U.S. trade remedy law, countervailing duty tariffs are not imposed for de minimis subsidies.

>A tentative deal was reached in July 2006, in which Canada got $4 billion of the $5.3 billion it lost because of the penalties with no additional tariffs to be imposed.
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>>131456427

This will hurt American businesses at least as much. Protectionism means higher prices 100% of the time. This means everyone who uses wood now has a higher cost of doing business.
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>>131457249
A kike puppet in office. I guess we're not so different from Canada after all.
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You faggots should learn Macho Capitalism.

Granting the (((Kushners)))) buildings in Acapulco made Trump to just spout nonsense about the wall from time to time.

Same goes to China and their trademarks for Ivanka.

Give and Take.
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>>131460405
Trump needs to burn this shithole to the ground so people stop voting for communists
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>>131455483
fuxk your gay lumber
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>>131458556
>implying that there's cloth manufacturing industry in the US
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>>131460552
wait a second are you trying to tell me past american trade representatives were deliberately acting against their country's best interests in trade negotiations?

whoa.

really made me think
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>>131458259

Technically we can't. Autarky is so fucking miserable that any government that tries it will be nuked in the next election.

Imagine if half your shit just didn't exist and the rest cost at least 150% more.
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>>131460772
renegotiate your fucking trade deals then we'll talk, until now, your in the wrong, by law
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>>131455566
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>>131460367
>you have to argue with a random candian who said "LOL"
whoa, so this is the power of mexican intellectuals
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>>131455483
the time has come
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USA should end all trade with Trudope.

Then we will go wild, hang that traitor, and maybe become independent .
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>>131455566
FINALLY!!!!!!!!
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>>131459045

You can replant trees, Haiti is just too poor, stupid, and corrupt to do so. Canada is also larger and has more trees. Also, there is a financial incentive to keep a lot of certain kinds of trees around because of the syrup industry.
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>>131456816
I can see Weyerhauser land from my fucking deck.
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>>131460915
>yeah we might be subsidizing our loggers but in the past you let it happen by pretending to not see it so its ok now
leaf logic
also,
>you're*
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>>131460516
PNW logging has been on the decline for awhile. If lumber prices go up from lack of Canadian lumber more companies will seek permits in the US.
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how much is American yellow pine #2 go for these days?
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>>131457518
>a faggot
>some other faggots
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>>131455566
fpbp
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>>131461491

Higher lumber prices benefit a tiny group of people and no one else. This means higher costs for builders, renovators, etc. If lumber could be produced efficiently here, we wouldn't be having this discussion because Canadian lumber taxes would be unnecessary.

Comparative motherfucking advantage.
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>>131455483
RAKED
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>>131461540
Basically. An old hag, after consulting the b̶i̶g̶g̶e̶s̶t̶ ̶c̶u̶c̶k̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶l̶a̶n̶d̶ prime minister appoints some random faggot whom then appoints some more faggots to shit this country up.
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>>131460772

oh no! Your only point has been debunked.
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>>131456699
>in court
A fucking leaf
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>>131461755
Importing millions of filthy Arab and Chinese immigrants to cut down trees for $0.23/day has nothing to do with efficiency
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>>131456786
Canadian Court is pretty much just a maple syrup chugging contest while seeing how many pinecones they can shove up their ass.
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>>131462453
>american education
>what is WTO and NAFTA
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>>131461932
You think because your country's thieving went on with the consent of traitorous american trade reps that you can claim not only that did it, somehow in superposition, not happen in the past, but that it isn't continuing now?
arguing with a leaf truly is like playing chess with a retarded pigeon. you don't understand what you're looking at so you shit on the board and think you've won.
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>>131455483
Fuck you and your Shit people comming to our country and taking back our money and goods to your shithole!!!...just find your corner and stay in it ...
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>>131462118

Prices speak for themselves. Whatever Canada wants to do to get its low prices, we're still getting a better deal on materials than if we were to produce them domestically. And that matters to people who build things with those materials--something we're better at than Canada.

Let Canada do the grunt work, let us do the finessed labor and sell the product back to Canadians. It's like this with lower-development countries, too. China exports a lot of silicon and silicon wafers. We use our better technology and more educated, better-paid workers to produce computer components. We sell those to everyone else and make a fat profit.

We do well, they do well, everyone wins, but we win more.

This is free trade.
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>>131455891
Canada has recently got it's oil completely fucked in, and trudy jr thinks budgets will balance themselves if he just hands out enough money. We don't have low labour costs, so all we have to offer the world is fish and lumber, and even our fish is still too expensive to compete much of anywhere because of regulations and high wages. The only competitive commodity we have for trade was lumber, due to the fact Canadians can bid to log on Canadian land for cheap, rather than having to buy the land privately or grow tree farms. We bet everything on America's whim not to destroy us. We're Venezuela now.
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>>131459045
>mfw Chile fills with leafs
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>>131462635
Thieving?

What about all of America's agricultural subsidies?

What about the bullying of other countries to enforce copyright policy and patent law?

How about the constant invasions of countries to protect company interests abroad?

America has been the thieves of the globe for the past century.

You don't understand what YOU are looking at. The fact is that the Canadian timber market subsidy is so minimal it can't be used against us. Canadian timber is vastly superior to American timber which is why many builders prefer it and there is no comparable product in the US.
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>>131462857
>We're Venezuela now.

At least I'll get to be smug to liberal fags as we are fighting over the last rat left on the west coast.
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>>131457039
Show flag don't be a fag...otherwise we all just assume you're a leaf
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>>131462835
>Let Canada do the grunt work, let us do the finessed labor and sell the product back to Canadians.

So what you're going to build a house in the US then ship it back across the border?
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>>131463051
>What about all of America's agricultural subsidies?
How's that arable land development going?
>What about the bullying of other countries to enforce copyright policy and patent law?
You aren't very good at this. when someone calls you a thief you aren't supposed to say the exact sort of thing a thief would say. Indeed, whats the point of IP law.
>How about the constant invasions of countries to protect company interests abroad?
working on it senpai
>America has been the thieves of the globe for the past century.
is your history curriculum written by hoteps or something?
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>>131462857
>high wages.

I love how conservashits think this is a bad thing
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>>131456256
Because he can. If Canada didn't go full Zimbabwe-Keynesian, let a forest fire burn down it's most important province for a year and a half, mandate uncompetitive wages, and block oil pipelines, maybe we'd be able to weather it.
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>>131463995
what is your obsession with having canadians compete with 3rd world wages?
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>>131463051
>Canadian timber is vastly superior to American timber which is why many builders prefer it
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>>131463528

Or sell small goods made of wood.

More realistically, though, the sell-back is indirect, because economies are complicated. We'll build nice buildings that draw Canuck tourists to the US. Mostly, we'll take advantage of cheap lumber prices to help our other industries, like agriculture, plastics, machinery, etc. Our leading exports to Canada.
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>>131463898
They aren't a bad thing unless you're unable to prevent other countries from stealing the business.
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>>131464207
It's true. American women can't resist BLC
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>>131464377
canadian fanfics are always a riot
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>>131464569
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>>131460601
yea but the money stays in America, not canada.
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>>131455483
>Yo wtf are you doing burgers?
we are trying to get away from our only export being gold and importing everything else
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>>131457050
What subsidies? You mean that in the US, softwood lumber lots are privately owned, and the owners charge a lot of money? Something the Canadian federal and provincial governments don't do on their lands? You call that subsidies?

Why should Canadian federal and provincial governments overcharge lumber companies? The problem lies with the US.
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>>131464714
Why don't you cucks tariff China and Mexico then?
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>>131455483
How will Chinada respond to this?
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>>131464932
This. It's completely retarded that America calls that a subsidy.
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>>131455566
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>>131464682
god he really is attractive

he used to be a model you know, he was quite successful
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>>131464682
post more headcanon
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>>131465135
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>>131456938
>Horrible deals. We're gonna renegotiate em.
The US isn't going to exit the WTO.

What's going to happen is the case will go to the WTO and for the 7th time the US will lose and end up paying penalties on the illegal duties.
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>>131455483
They need to pay for our defence budget somehow.
The whole world can't play socialism on US military backing any longer. Once we (and many others who depend on the US for military support) up our defence spending, we'll realize how unaffordable socialism is.
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>>131465177
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>>131464932
>What subsidies? You mean that in the US, softwood lumber lots are privately owned, and the owners charge a lot of money? Something the Canadian federal and provincial governments don't do on their lands? You call that subsidies?
now THIS is leafposting
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>>131455483
Do your job leaf and quit complaining
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>>131465177
>>131465354
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>>131455483
Canada can suck a fucking log!
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>>131463898
>>131464072
We can't even compete with American wages.

High wages would be great if people could actually get them.
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>>131455891
We would need China pretty heavily on our side for that to remotely work.

And even if they were willing to back us up... would we really want ot be aligning ourselves with them?
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>>131455891
THE TIME HAS COME LEAF!
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Murrica don't need books no more. The Drumpf revolution is leading to a society of spics, niggers and retarded rural whites.
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>>131455566
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>>131465481
I'm curious why you think "competing" means a race to the bottom? Remind me how much did the Big 5 banks make in profits last year?
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>>131464682
>Trudeau is cucking Kushner
kek.
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>>131465881
I think Jared put a stop to it
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>>131456256
He wants people to stop bitching about him picking on mexico so he can build the wall and he wants chinas help on north Korea.
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>>131456493
Pretty much this.
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>>131456543
They'll drop you now that the real estate market is collapsing.
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>>131463898
it is if the only ""jobs"" are the ones the government makes up, kinda like Trudy's doing now
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>>131465881
Big Canadian Cock crushing the best pussy in America!!!

Hope Donald didn't damage that pussy too much when she was a young girl. I heard she just laughs now when Drumpf tries cause she can't even feel his little pecker anymore after being stretched out by Justin lmao
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>>131457048
You do realize that China can now bend the leafs over even more on what they are willing to pay.
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>>131460762

There is. just not very much of it but it has nothing to do with China.

I live in the southeastern US. Used to be cloth and textile capital of the US. Then Clinton passed NAFTA because Democrats wanted to punish Southerners for abandoning their party due to desegregation and gun control. Petty shit.
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>>131466255
You're suggesting that 100% of job creation under Trudeau has been public sector? Please cite your evidence from Statscan.
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>>131466608
>You're suggesting that 100% of job creation under Trudeau has been public sector?

not what I said was it shitstick
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>>131466772
>it is if the only ""jobs"" are the ones the government makes up >>131466255
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>>131457708
Suuure
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>>131457048
Canada is kind of fucked up when it comes to NAFTA because the cost of transportation compared to exporting shit straight to the US.

At least Mexico can trade with Badzil and Niggertina.
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>>131466521
>Then Clinton passed NAFTA

You mean Bush.

12/17/1992: Pres. Bush Signs NAFTA
http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video/dec-17-1992-pres-bush-signs-nafta-15205420
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>>131461491
The PNW is run by filthy liberal tree huggers. They get to decide if "permits are granted to logging companies. Protip- They will not allow logging in any meaningful way.
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>>131467169
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>>131467169

That was the draft agreement. Clinton made it law.
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>>131467441
Why is the right wing tactic always to dindu all the shit you did?

12/17/1992: Pres. Bush Signs NAFTA
http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video/dec-17-1992-pres-bush-signs-nafta-15205420
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>>131465866
What the fuck are you rambling about? Are you schizophrenic?
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>>131467490
That was the full agreement. Reagan and Bush were big on free trade agreements. NAFTA was a done deal by the time Clinton won. Why are you such a dindu? Bush negotiated the entire fucking agreement. It was years in the making. Once again the worst argument against a Democrat is that he didn't undo stupid shit you Republicans did.

Watch the video and weep.


12/17/1992: Pres. Bush Signs NAFTA
http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video/dec-17-1992-pres-bush-signs-nafta-15205420
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>>131467583
Answer the question bitch.
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>>131466521
>Then Clinton passed NAFTA because Democrats wanted to punish Southerners for abandoning their party

Lol this is autistically retarded on multiple levels. First of all NAFTA was done by Bush. Second of all Clinton did well in the South. He was a Southern Democrat.

Where do u retards come up with this shit?
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>>131467571
>this is what Pajeet actually believes
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>>131464714

Money that "stays" in Canada is spent on US goods due to our trade surplus with them.
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>>131467812
What question?
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>>131455483
Day of rake coming sooner than thought.
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>>131455566
Someone's doing the raking.
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>>131468110
Lol Bush spent years negotiating NAFTA. You retards know your ideology is such bullshit that all u can do it is dindu it.

12/17/1992: Pres. Bush Signs NAFTA
http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video/dec-17-1992-pres-bush-signs-nafta-15205420

What do we have here? The retarded newt himself. Let's see what he has to say about it.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4608699/newt-gingrich-house-passage-nafta
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>>131455483
Making canada pay for the wall
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>>131464953
Justin can't into Corruption.

Trump is from the crookest part of NY and acts like a wannabe mafioso, so actual mafioso leaders have an easy time navigating through his bullshit.
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>>131468432
Yup Trump wouldn't want to tax himself on all the cheap shit he produces overseas
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>>131468295
So Clinton didn't sign it into law? Hillary didn't campaign for it?
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>>131468906
So once again the worst attack against a Democrat is that he didn't undo stupid shit Republicans did?
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>>131468635
>made in Mexico

It clearly says Made in China, retard. Those ties haven't been produced in nearly a decade now. Cry more.
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>>131469042
No, it's that the entire establishment supported the globalist bullshit, which you now defend because Based Bill dindu nuffin.
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>>131469046
>It clearly says Made in China, retard.

AHAHAAHHAH NICE TRUMP DEFENSE

I love it. Works every time.
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>>131468295
Yeah, cause everyone here loves the Bush family.

You are clearly retarded. Get off /pol/ man. It's just embarrassing.
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>>131469115
lol u retards elected a billionaire globalist elite

Trump is Bush 2.0
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>>131456256
He is forcing Canada's hand by doing this with the end game of Canada becoming even close to USA for trade, so that both CAN and USA can cuck China and Mexico together.
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>>131469297
Now post the GINI coefficient for the years Bill and Barry were president.
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>>131469253
(((pol))) is a GOP establishment shill board so yeah they do

Republican national security pic related
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>>131469375
Since when do right wing retards give a shit about income inequality? Your entire cuck ideology is that you want workers making as little as possible so your billionaire globalist overlords can have it all
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>>131469402
no they don't
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>>131469493
That's your talking point. The reality is that your policies of flooding the West with shitskins who work for less than minimum wage has depressed wages for the last 40 years.
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>>131455483
We really shouldn't do any business with the Caliphate of Canadastan at all. We need a northern wall.
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>>131469614
yes they do (((pol))) shills for the GOP establishment non stop
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>>131455483
Your prime minister threatened trump with retaliation taxes on coal. Trump is giving this bitch the finger
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>>131469618
see this is where u get detached from reality. Obama deported millions of illegals. (((pol))) called him the Deporter in chief. He didn't increase legal immigration either. Although I bet Trump will.

If anyone is flooding America with cheap labor, it's Trump. You cucks love him for it.
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>>131469493
You're thinking of Democrats, the party of slavery. The right wing are the ones that want to stop the low wage workers from flooding in.
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>>131469878
It's abundantly obvious who caters to the shitskins.
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>>131469297
except a tax cut doesn't give anything to anyone
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>>131455891
trade massacre
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thank you US

the rest of canada hates BC

fucking chinks
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>>131469717
/pol/ doesn't like the Bush family

I'm not sure you've said a single correct thing yet friendo
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>>131469978
now you're changing your argument because you got btfo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08YcwXPT-6M
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>>131470115
lol (((pol))) defends Bush all the time. Especially when it comes to him crashing the US economy in 2008
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>>131470116
Not changing the argument at all. Democrats cater to the illegal immigrants who are suppressing wages for everyone. They do this because their corporate donors want cheap wages, and they get millions of votes out of the deal L.
>>
burn it all down
make us bleed
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>>131469878
Obama deported more because he advertised he wouldn't be enforcing the law, while also actually but sporadically enforcing the law. Trump advertised that he WILL enforce the law, and as a result has had less need and opportunity to enforce it.

Trump won.
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>>131470284
lol once again, Obama deported millions of illegals. I know u retards have a hard time with this one but illegals can't vote.

Democrats are always for higher wages for workers.
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>>131456405
Didn't Obama spend 8 years bombing the fuck out of dirt poor brown countries to the point he actually expanded the drone strikes? And then he banned them from entry to the US? Pretty sure that's worse than starting a trade war with Canada.
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>>131470438
No Obama didn't announce that and he did enforce the law.
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>>131470541
Illegals can't vote, but their offspring can. The population shift in the picture above shows the long term effect of democrats flooding the country with illegals. The only reason illegal immigration slowed under Obongo is because the dumb nigger couldn't grow the economy.
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>>131470197
He was just extending Clinton's banking and housing policies though. Republicans should take responsibility for shitty Dumbocrat policies but not the other way around?
>>
>>131455891
>You guys think a trade war is coming?
>>131470006
>trade massacre

Canada sells much more to the US than what they buy. They are in a horrible trading position. Any tariff above 0% hurts Canada.
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>>131456699
So your big threat is you'll have someone else threaten us? Seriously?
>>
>>131470583
What is DACA?
>>
>>131470583
>No Obama didn't announce that
Yes he did
>and he did enforce the law
Not effectively or consistently
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>>131470701
>but their offspring can

kids can't vote either

>couldn't grow the economy

wew lad
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>>131455483
Putting the Leafs in a pile. Easier to rake up.
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>>131470720
BUSH DINDU NUFFIN is your argument?

It was his signature domestic policy.

George Bush: we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68&nohtml5=False
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>>131470901
Which year did Obongo grow the economy by more than 3%?

Once their anchor babies grow up, they can vote. These illegals have been coming here since for decades now.
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>>131470992
I know exactly what he said. I had it in my mind when I responded. It was an extension of Clinton policy.

You are also clearly too dumb to realize the impact credit cards had.
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>>131470992
When are you going to go back to India?
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>>131470992
>BUSH DINDU NUFFIN is your argument?
Also no. I don't like Bush. No one here does other than maybe yourself.

You're a hypocrite is my argument.
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>>131471040
Which year did Obama grow the economy? Every year. You retards want more immigration just to get more GDP growth. Now that is fucked up.
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>>131471231
I'm a white male and you right wing retard billionaire globalist cocksuckers are an embarrassment to my race.
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>>131471416
>shitskin immigration grows the economy

WEW!
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>>131471498
You're front Ontario, you're neither white nor a male.
>>
The start of Annexation. Trump is going to put the screws on you guys and then buy you out when you become insolvent.
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>>131471542
>42% talking
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>>131456699

this all started over you retards trying fuck us over on super filtered milk. I hope your slightly more canadian cheese is worth it.
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>>131471374
Based Bill CLinton handed Bush the best economy. You almost couldn't fuck it up. Republicans always find a way though
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>>131455483
There can be no negotiation on lumber and syrup tax until the Archcuck of Canada is voted out
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>>131471681
I don't understand. I thought leftists loved niggers and spics?
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>>131471779
Who else is Trump going to hire?
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>>131455483
Yeah they closed a few mills in my regions

Probably put some ppl I know indirectly on social security!

Thanx burgers!
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>>131471992
Nice deflection.
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>>131472154
we dont have social security

nice try burger proxy
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>>131471745
So it's no longer because Bush wanted everyone to own a house anymore? It's just because?

When's the last time you didn't get your ass handed to you right away in these threads?
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>>131472263
Wtf? Bush Sr. came before Clinton. Bush Jr. came after Based Bill. Are you retarded?
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>>131455483
test
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>>131472396
POO IN THE LOOOOOO
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>>131472396
Take your pills man. Your mind is all over the place. We weren't talking about Sr. at all.
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>>131464953
we do
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>>131455483
Socialism.
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>>131472420
test 2
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>>131456699
>threatening the largest military in the world over money
Kek, I can't wait to see how this turns out.
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>>131472563
Yeah we were when it came to NAFTA u fucking moron
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>>131455483

Fucking awesome! We are going after an industry that's raping us! Great news! You leafs prop up your own industry!
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>>131473005
When did I bring up NAFTA? When did you bring up NAFTA to me? What does my post have at all to do with NAFTA?

Your shit excuse makes you look even more retarded and schizophrenic, man.
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>>131469878
>(((pol))) called him the Deporter in chief.
You're fuckin delusional bud
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>>131456699
What court? Does a court have an army? Fuck off leaf!
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>>131473243
>>131465481
>>131470115
>>131470438
>>131470720
>>131470890
>>131471185
>>131471374
>>131472263

Anyway, it's been fun BTFOing you as usual Obamaleaf. I have other shit to do so I'm taking off, but I'm sure I'll run into you again.
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>>131473243
>>131473498
holy shit NAFTA was all over this thread u moron

you've completely lost it

this comment of yours was so retarded >>131472263
>>
You're missing out on some pretty sweet wood, burgers.
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>lumbers will be more expensive
>houses will cost more money

Good job ameritards
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>>131473615
>this comment of yours was so retarded
yeah that's a good argument.

better luck next time obamaleaf. see ya.
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>>131455483
why doesn't the government buy all this wood and train and employ people to build endless modular houses for the indians? If they don't the industry will go tits up.
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>>131473498
>>131473615
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>>131455483
Drag our liberals kicking and screaming into your country or you get more.
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>>131474002
lol u got btfo so hard
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>>131474011
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>>131475794
What do you use for toilet paper when you shit in the street?
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>>131476539
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