Tesla On Suicide Watch

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>>131420972

Interior, it actually looks like a car and not a tablet on wheels lol

BTFO'ed

Major motor company's weren't all into electric cars because they didn't have to.

Elon Musk BTFO'd himself. His companies are so reliant on US taxpayer subsidies, they literally wouldn't exist without them. He fucked himself when he walked out on the President.

Good luck to Porsche. I wouldn't buy one, but I wasn't going to buy a Tesla either. As a burger, I enjoy cheap gas and can drive a guzzler as much as I want.

>>131421209
>that gear stick
Why is it so tiny?

>>131421436
why do you even need stick in electricjew car

>>131421436

Its an automatic.

>>131421436
Electric cars don't have gears. No shifting while driving.

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>>131421436

>Put a stick in in the middle of a burger car
>they circle it in confusion like monkeys

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>>131421352
amen

>muscles cars or btfo

>>131421436
So fat burgers can't get their hamsausages around it and Europeans can laugh at them desperately trying to get it in reverse.

>>131420972
Who cares?

Call me when we have 5% e-car market penetration.

>>131421209
What are the door seals like?

That's what turned me off Tesla's: such shitty job on the door seals there is no way it will be weather proof.

>>131420972
>The upcoming Porsche Mission E, should that car make it into production, will be at a starting price of $60,000.
Hmmmmm...

>>131421436
that is the switch to wind the windows down.

>>131421868
This.

Mine just has some buttons.
That stick is actually needlessly big.

>>131421436
You don't know what automatic is? I thought that was all you got over there...

>>131421436
It's a clit instead of a penis. We matriarchy nao!

>>131420972
Yours for the low low price of 899,000 Euros

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>>131421436
>>131421722
>>131421868
>>131421905
>>131422333 (Checked)

he's talking about the gear stick/gear lever that puts you into park/drive/neutral/etc.

why is it so small is what he's asking, most cars have it pretty large, and it just looks so pathetic and tiny in the pic of the interior.

simple answer: Europeans got small hands

>>131421868

>Burger logic
>Lets use 3,4 buttons instead of one stick.

No wonder your cars are cheap shit.

>>131421436
The larger shifter promotes rape culture. By making it smaller and more flacid, the car becomes a safe-space.

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>Europeans are defending this automatic piece of shit
Europeons- not even once

>>131422221
>will be at a starting price of $60,000.

If they didn't gimp it with a tiny battery or something, that's amazing.

Cheaper than a Tesla model S.

>>131422333
>>131421905
b-b-b-b-butthurt
finally joining the American masterrace?

>>131422221
>Build car
>people want it
>sell every single one without losing money
Hmmmm

>>131421209
Why would a self driving car need an interior? The owner can do anything he wants in a self driving car. Even shitposting...

>>131420972
WTF? I love coal powered cars now. Cool steam punk tech you have there.

>>131420972
Is it going to drive itself?

>>131422461
That's still cheaper than a Tesla

>>131422774
>self driving car
>can't even make a tight turn on demand because it doesn't know if it's navigating a 90 degree bend or swerving into a group of schoolchildren

>>131421722
Dropped

>>131422849
Self driving is a meme.

It will never work outside the motorway.

>>131422659

>American master race
>literally can't drive a car if he has to shift.
>pay thru your nose when your fancy transmision gets fucked
>never learn the feel of a car like a real driver does.

Burgers be burgering.

>>131420972
Tesla not BTFO because porche will seel a few thousand and tesla is on track to be the main car seller in a nation of almost 400,000,000

>>131422461
Porsche is a reasonably priced high-end car. It's not that expensive unless you're a poorfag.

>>131423056
Shut up American

Americans will never into cars

You will always be BTFO by Europeans

>>131423014
It will work. It's a matter of when.

t. AI researcher

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>>131422971
>Electric cars
>Gears
Pick one

>>131421436
Designers use things around them as inspiration
It was made by burgers

What do you think?

>>131423056
Not if he loses taxpayer subsidies.

>>131423056
I've seen a tesla just a few times and I live in Seattle. How are they on track to be the number 1 in anything?

>>131423023

Meanwhile everyone who has driven both a manual and automatic inevitably says they prefer automatic for daily commuting after owning a manual for a decent amount of time. Driving in stoplights quickly becomes boring.

>>131422603
Seriously tho. I recall them ribbing Americans for driving automatic not long ago. Of course, even back then I was redpilled enough to know it was all because yuropoors can't actually afford automatic transmissions.

But still, I must concede that the experience of driving a manual in a favorable environment is far more exhilarating than choose one: brake or gas.

Now I see their entire argument was bullshit and they know it. They were only ever virtue signalling. Which is precisely why it's perfectly fine for an electric car to be automatic.

>>131422914
GPS and Google maps knows all the tight turns. The car will know the road better than the owner. Besides it can stop in a milliseconds when a kid appears.

>>131423229
They should fire everyone that made it for being homosexual faggots - bigger is better with cars desu

>implying Tesla is a good electric car
>implying Rimac isn't the future

Top fucking lel

>>131423224
>electric
dropped
again
just gets worse and worse

>>131420972
>Porsche is a concept "car"
>Tesla cars available at showrooms today.

spot the difference, dumbshit

>>131423295
>GPS and Google maps knows all the tight turns.
how does the car have confidence in it's knowledge of it's location? what happens if GPS is disabled? what happens if google maps is out of date?

> The car will know the road better than the owner.
it can't see texture, it can't keep track of pedestrians, it can't comprehend how people are going to react to it's actions, it can't detect when it's map is faulty.

>Besides it can stop in a milliseconds when a kid appears.
what about when it's just swerved into a kid?

>>131423283
Wow I thought all the real drivers here in the US drove manual. I get that girls and fags like automatics but why the hell would any real man willingly drive a car that you have less control over?

>>131423295
Would they also stop the truck of peace attacks, or would it be like when the M5 Multitronic Unit took control of the Enterprise and started fucking shit up?

>>131423199
Fuck off European scum, god bless the Arabs and Turks who rape and kill stupid eurotrash. Fuck Europe, we will win inshallah

>>131423315
How retarded are you, exactly?
Why do you think OP mentioned Tesla?

Reminder that this is an 18+ board.

>>131423506
Yeah go buy me a new Tesla real quick.

>>131423214
Sorry AI fag. AI is a meme. Come at me bro. Where and when will we have this self driving car IRL?

>>131423305
>implying homos don't intrinsically accept bigger is better.

Never seen a lesbian buy a packer, have you?

>>131423224
In a theoretical world the torque x rpm of an electric motor is directly inversely proportional. So you would only require 1 gear (5th in this case). But due to practical reasons if the torque curve is not completely linear, multiple gears can be utilised to ensure that the torque at the wheels (after torque multiplication of the gearbox) per motor rpm is maximised, thus improving efficiency.

>>131424393
An electric motor doesn't have any RPM though. That's not how it works

>>131424393
Gears would improve efficiency, yes.

But most electric cars don't have gears because their torque at low speeds is so big it would destroy a normal clutch.
And installing a super beefy clutch and extra strong gear box to deal with the torque just ads weight and cost that's better spend on a bigger battery instead.

>>131424866
>electric motors don't cause rotations

>>131422556
>Europeans got small hands
yeah and Africans got big hands

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>>131424866
>An electric motor doesn't have any RPM

>>131424993
>>131425161
The engine doesn't have any moving parts

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>>131420972
>German engineering still behind Croatia.
Krauts BTFO

>>131423892
They already partially do this.

That asshat that died taking a nap in his Tesla was asleep for 40 minutes before it happened.
And presumably he'd done this before.
Thats a pretty good start to be honest.

We need data, lots of data, real world data, all kinds of roads at all times in all conditions, to train the AI to handle all conditions.
Tesla already has cars on the road soaking it all up.
So far ahead they have more data than google.

Nobody knows how long its going to take, but its only going to get better.
I'd say two decades at most until it will drive around your suburb without killing kids.

>>131425240
It has 1 moving part.
Which turns around....at a certain number of rounds per minute.

>>131423713
You can easily program an electric car to stop a truck of peace. When I mean stop I mean it would calculate how to save people and accelerate ridiculously fast to accomplish that goal. So yes. Elon can do that.
>>131423612

>>GPS and Google maps knows all the tight turns.
>how does the car have confidence in it's knowledge of it's location?

Satellites take picture of the same road every week.

>what happens if GPS is disabled? what happens if google maps is out of date?

It tells the owner to take the wheel.

>> The car will know the road better than the owner.
>it can't see texture,

It's supposed to have 8 cameras. It can see texture.

>it can't keep track of pedestrians,

It has a radar and sonar.

>it can't comprehend how people are going to react to it's actions,

It acts faster than any pedestrian. The car always will see what happens. It thinks at electron speed ffs.

>it can't detect when it's map is faulty.

All cars are electronic. If the road is faulty every car will know where it's faulty.

>>Besides it can stop in a milliseconds when a kid appears.
>what about when it's just swerved into a kid?

It will detect the kid and stop. It has all kinds of sensors.

>>131420972
Hahaha by 2020 when this will hit the streets, Germany will not exist even in history books. Keep to what you know - Sucking Muslim cock.

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>>131420972
Hey, that looks pretty cool.

>It doesn't exist.

O-oh. OK.

>>131425604
right, i see you're one of those idiots. see you in 2070.

>>131425347
that car looks so fucking good

>>131422125
Ahh, a truly American product, then. If it goes on a spec sheet, it gets attention. If it doesn't, it gets nickel-and-dimed to death.

>>131425915
I am too old. Won't see those days.

>>131420972
>German Engineering.
>Impractical Car gets mutilated by a speed bump or a rock on the road.

Faggots

>>131420972
All batteries destroy the environment... Electric cars are a pipe dream.

>>131420972
Nice vaporware faggot! Let me know when Porsche sells 30k of those a year

>>131423295
No, roach. None of that is true.
>60 to 0 in mileseconds
Fucking idiot.

Electric cars are for fags and long haired hippy degenerates. No self respecting man would be caught dead in one. It is our God given right to drive a carbon belching V8.

>>131426129
this. had to cringe watching a guy with a Ferrari try to simply exit a parking lot.

>>131426375
A thousand milliseconds us a second.

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>>131425927
Italian cars are the pinnacle of beauty Ameribro.

>>131420972
>almost double the price of the model 3
>tesla is competing with sports cars meme

Have you read at all about Teslas strategy?
They started with a sports car and worked their way down so they could fund the development of their main product, decent electric cars that are actually affordable.
The endgame is to get as many electric cars to as many people as possible so they can bank off of the infrastrucure they're putting in.
Meanwhile porshe is wasting resources cutting into the electric sports car market while not offering the trickle down effect on cheap electric cars in the future.
Think about that for a sec.
They are trying to cut into a market solely existing for the rich activists that care more about the future their purchase goes towards, than the minute effect their own lack of emissions creates.
They have no plan and they have no future in electric cars.

tesla is n1

>>131423214
It won't work because people won't give up on driving not because the system wouldn't work. It's a matter of human psychology.

cool looking. wouldn't buy electric though. I'm fine zipping around in my 370z

>>131426730
you are correct. tesla will be the future, serbs always win

But does it pass the emissions test?

>>131420972
>Implying Stuttgart isn't in flame and a part of the European Caliphate before this releases.

>>131420972
Ugh, whats with the Cadillac style headlights?

>>131422125
Porsche knows how to build good cars. Tesla doesn't. Rest assured that the door seals are top notch on this Porsche.

>>131427990
Porsche are just glorified VW's you stupid pole.

>>131421209
that stick almost certainly has no mechanical linkage whatsoever to any part of the drivetrain, and it shouldn't be there to emulate an actual transmission.

>>131421209
faggy little gearshift

>>131428091
Hi Skippy! VW make good cars.

>>131424866
>electric motors don't have rotations per minute

>>131422556
anyone who keeps posting this plebit shit and moreso with plebit format needs to kill himself asap, so please do that or shut the fuc up and gtfo for fucks sake
you fucking nieggers think noone knows who you are, you reek of it, you and your fucking pedantic answers , arguing over petty things noone gives a shit about.

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>>131425378
>>131428513
Since it's just the wheels rotating measuring them in RPM is redundant since those are measured in KPH or MPH

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>>131428493
Overpriced buckets of rust that wannabe yuppies drive around thinking it makes them look sophisticated. Give me a fucking chevy or a Holden with a loud thundering V8 and keep your german made sissy mobile in Europistan thank you very much

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>>131420972
Tesla company, open sourced all of their patents regarding the energy and drive systems in their cars. So no i do not think they got "BTFO"

>>131429230
Without government grants Tesla would go out of business quicker than you can say Global Warming is a hoax.

Nice cae. But i have a question.

Why is this not on /o/?

>>131428916

Your a literal retart

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>>131422221
Wtf. That's almost affordable. And with a brand like porche?
Tesla ultimately btfo.

>>131422221
>Porsche Mission E

hope that's just some internal designation or code name. they just should call it the carrera e

>>131429086
That's a nice car Skippy. Question for ya: How do you flip a tank?

>>131429394
and government should not invest Tax money into technological and energetic advancements ?
I think it is even more intelligent to invest in private companies dedicated to advancing technology, then in a black hole like NASA or those even more secret.

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>>131429558
>Literally doesn't know when to use 'literal'

>>131429761
Found the commie.

>>131429948
Government is peoples company, they invest in it. As such it should be as optimized, small and effective as it can be, It should not be a nanny to everyone. But it definitely should function.
There aint nothing commie about it.

>>131430187
Taxpayer money to prop up a failing business model that is not able to sustain its own existence in the market economy is the very definition of communism

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>>131430382
or we could have companies artificially and in mafia manner prolong the existence of fossil fuels. In principle the best would be if we all fucking rolled up our sleeves and made all the things epic without governments and all would be sweet, rainbows would shit gold and women would be intelligent.

>>131425361
So 20 years and AI will safely drive people around and around people? The old 20 year meme. Close enough that you might live to see it, far enough away that no one can call bullshit. Yeah, no. Human drivers will always bully AI, because AI will always obey the law and humans routinely don't.

>>131430704
>and women would be intelligent.
Now you have gone too far anon, even for a commie.

>>131421209
>yet another shitbox on wheels with a touchscreen console that has NO HAPTIC FEEDBACK, so instead of being able to feel buttons with your fingers while keeping your eyes on the road, you must stare at the screen and die instead
fucking dropped

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>>131420972
Porsche is for the poors

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>>131420972
Why don't they make electric tractors? That's something I would actually buy

>>131431233
because they need medium that would make the new thing popular first, then apply it to wider context.

>>131431233
There are some availing but they are inferior to existing products.
For tractors to be electric they need to charge very fast. Right now a days work for ad tractor requires supercharging for four hours. That's too long. But to charge faster you need a bigger battery and more powerful chargers.

In case you didn't know yet, the global bilancy of electric car is far worse than the one of oil cars.

Future's solution, the one nobody wants to look in the eyes, is 1 car per 100 inhabitants.

Brave new world.

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>>131431233
Because you would need a fuckheug battery to power it for any reasonable length of time.

Some heavy equipment is electric already though, some bucket wheel excavators and mining shovels just run off power from the grid. But they are constantly plugged into the grid too. Not viable for you to run a tractor off of.
Besides. Diesel is love, diesel is life.

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>>131420972
Okay? And? Pic related is faster has a longer range and will be in production before the Porsche, will cost less and is more luxurious than an S class

>>131429648
>hope that's just some internal designation or code name.

It's the name for the concept car.

But the rumors are a production version would be called "Pajun"
Which, to me, sound too much like "Pajeet".

>>131431730
>more luxurious than an S class

lol no

>>131431233
Tractors are used by rednecks, rural retards dont believe in electric and love big ass combustion engines. The only market for electric cars right now is rich liberal sillicon valley-esque fags.

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>>131432161
Lol yea

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OP: you know the whole idea behind Tesla was exactly to disrupt the car industry so ALL brands would get into the electric car revolution, right?

That is because Elon does what he does because he wants to give the human race the most chances possible to survive despite it's own stupidity, so because he knows he couldn't just go like: "Hey everyone who makes cars, you should start making electric cars", he just went like: "I managed to get everyone excited about having an electrical car and disrupted the industry so effectively that now every major brand is going to be making cheaper and cheaper electrical cars as well as luxury and sports electrical cars and so humanity will depend less and less on fossil fuels."

And he also wants to make AI driven cars, let's see how that goes.

>>131423725
Hey shitskin gtfo of my country you stink

>>131420972

It looks so smug. I love it.

tesla is making them cheaper and more available and porsche is making it for a luxury class...not everyone will be able to afford a porsche in their lifetime much less an electric model you retards

>>131421436
Its like a CVT.

>>131425915
>>131430881

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndeb1pMAsh4

btw Tesla is a battery manufacturer the car part is just extra.

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>>131432704
Yep. Have a Pepe :D

>>131420972
Tesla has one of the most ugliest, cheapest looking interiors ever.

Have you guys seen screenshots of Tesla's interior especially the tablet.

Fucking greasy as shit tablet screens.

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>>131432260
No. It has more to do with the fact that a diesel run longer into a day without having to stop at lunch to recharge your stupid gimmick tractor for 4 hours. Battery technology is the biggest limitation on electric anything. You already have electric machinery, go to any open pit mine or underground mine and you occasionally see electric equipment (if they aren't in a super remote region that is, then they just use diesel)

You won't see electric powered excavators like pic related until you see a huge leap in power storage technologies.

>>131432368

Nigger... toyota did that

>>131433123
They could start with the compact tractors though, something like 150kwh battery should be enough there.

>>131433108

It's all cheap Chinese/Mexican made shit. Don't know about modern Porsches but I hope they don't source parts from Mexico; Mexican engine parts are absolute trash.

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>>131433509
!!!
Really? Thanks for the tip. Leave and learn :D

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my ride.

>>131433714
That makes the lest sense. Start with a heavier machine that can hold a fuck heug battery bank.

>>131420972
>Tesla BTFO or not
>those specs be insane
it's trying to communicate with us
i don't know where you came from but you have to go back

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ITT: poor people talk shit about things they will never own.

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>>131434622
>ITP: projections

>>131434170
A compact tractor can easily hold a huge battery bank, in fact, you probably would still need to add weight manually so it'd weight enough.

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>>131434020
my nigga

>>131423625
Over a manual transmissions lifetime you will likely replace at least one clutch, but over a automatic transmissions lifetime you will touch nothing. But people want whay they want.

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>>131434955
>adjust monocle, clears throat
You niggers clearly have no taste, your appalling choice is no match to this clearly superior classic ride.

>>131427017

I won't, but many will. Then it will be just a matter of time before it will be illegal to drive by yourself.

We still have 2-3 decades though before that happens.

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>>131432343

>Another Chinese Eco scam

Just like the Faraday scam.

U burgers are such easy targets.

>>131420972
>Porsche & Mclaren = god tier cars

most European cars are great, will hate to see them vanish once the Islamic invasion is finished!

>>131426045
So it's like Acer vs Lenovo laptops?

>>131429394
THIS

>>131420972
but it'll cost over $100k im guessing? Tesla went mainstream with $30k electric cars. Tesla wins.

>>131435433

I say, my good man. It would appear that the consecutive digits defining your post show it to be a true statement. Cheerio'.

>>131429627
In some markets that's downright cheap.
Given that non-electric vehicles here have about 100% taxes added on and electrics don't... A Porsche can now be yours for a lower price than a Mazda.

>>131436971
>Thinking the sinking ship that is Tesla's finances will allow them to still sell at 30k

>>131432368
> Muh EV revolution
Nissan did that, with the LEAF.
The EV people could afford, which they did independently of Musky Boy.

> Muh self driving cars
VW and Google are much further ahead in pursuit of that goal.

>>131429086
You're driving a Holden so you might not understand how the rest of the world views GM and how awful they "engineer" their products, you guys have it semi-lucky for having that, GM can't make shit here, you can't see out of the camaro and the vette is hot garbage that cant make it 6 miles without losing oil.

>>131429762
Literally doesn't know that the definition of literally was literally made to not mean literally. Go look it up and be sad, in 2013 they added an add addendum to the definition that is as follows : "used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true." It literally uses the word in the defintion...

>>131434955
Love the fucking 288. That and the F40 are the two greatest cars to ever grace the road.

>>131432368
Even Tesla hipsters eventually trade in their Tesla for a Prius.

Maintaining Toyota cars are easier and more convenient than Tesla cars.

>>131420972

Telsa is doing a Hillary. Everything rigged in its favour and it's still going to lose.

>All the investments
>All the tax breaks
>All the media shilling
>All the celebrity endorsements
>Massive headstart in a developing market

Still fuck it up. Even more impressive considering they actually have a decent product.

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>>131426486
Ferrari is an Italian company, you mong.

>>131420972
Except that the new Tesla is around 30k and this thing is probably in the above 200k range for some artsy overpriced shit on wheels, I am sure Schlomo will be happy though.

>>131420972
Useful reminder that Ferrari just released:

Ferrari 488

>>131431730
That is ugly as shit though. Looks like a fucking Cylon. Only retards completely without taste would buy such a turd, and those people are usually brand whores and will still choose Porsche.

>>131423199
Camaro SS 1LE and Shelby GT350R beat the BMW M4 on the track. Tesla Model S has a faster 0-60 than just about any European car ever made.

>>131420972
Ah these make me remember the Fisker Karma.....that was a hybrid tho....

Anyway, the military industrial complex needs to come up with some of that AYY LMAO tech ....we need zero point energy an easier methods of propulsion on all levels

>>131421722
they have a transmission in this thing?

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electric cars, gas cars. Porsche, Tesla. when are you going to get the only true environmental friendly mode of transportation? join the donkey and horse ride just like they did in the wild west.

>>131429648
But it's passed off of a panamera

>>131439127
FERRAR I488

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>>131421436

SO THE PRESUMPTUOUS PRESIDENT CAN USE IT

> 500 km (310 mile) all-electric range
> 0-100 km (62 mph) in “under 3.5 seconds“
> over 600 hp (440 kW) via two motors
> 4 seats
> 200 kmh (124 mph) in under 12 seconds.

but the p100d is already better in every respect except its got 2 extra doors and alrerady exists.

>>131443995
If the price is $60k as rumored it's still a good buy.

>>131420972
I'm hard

lel, tesla is super vulnerable to any decent co that makes an actual profit to gazump their market

Porsche is a car company. Tessa is a welfare program.

>>131442684
It costs 20 calories of petroleum to produce a calorie of edible food. And thats for cheap calorie rich foods, things like lettuce and beef are exponentially higher

>>131420972
Overkill. Tesla is elegant as fuck. This won't even compete

>>131420972
Just buy Toyota Hybrids.

Reliable, cheaper maintenance fees than other brands, and stable resell value.

>>131444364
I bet it will be mid 70-80k

batteries are expensive, and if this wont actually exist until 2020, they are probably going to be buying the batteries from tesla anyway.

>>131420972

https://youtu.be/rVk3UO_tsUU

Out of my way you overpriced automatic shits.

>>131423214
this is correct

>>131423892
> AI is a meme
also correct, but thats not going to stop them trying

> Where and when will we have this self driving car IRL
sooner than you think.
a tesla drove me for 14 miles on uk roads, a roads and country lanes, pretty epic desu!

>>131427017
> human psychology
thats exactly the point, human psychology sucks...! certainly when under time and stress constraints.

"muh fun of driving!" won't hinder the safety argument, and thats iignoring the HUGE economic advantages.

>>131435739
> will be illegal to drive by yourself
this

safety will be the argument that wins it.
increasingly, human error is the reason of road accidents.

imagine:
2 cars going down the road next to each other.
something falls in road ahead.
if humans are driving, they have fractions of seconds to figure out what todo.
even then their 'plan' relies on guessing what the other car is going todo, their survival chance are intertwined.

if you replace the humans with, "ai" even the ones we have now, in that spit second they could, spin up cloud servers, crunch some numbers on physics simulators, and communicate their joint "plan" to each car without much effort.

>>131445303
Bahaha

>>131426639
>>131426879
Damn these are pretty

>>131420972
>Tesla actively encourages innovation and adoption of this technology
>Porsche innovating and adopting this technology makes Tesla sad

Are you retarded or black?

>look up car
>it has a 0-60 of 3.5 instead of 2.5
>it's a fucking concept car

>>131431730
>o wow only $52k for this budget car!
only bay areans are this far up their own asses

>>131423056
Ain't no self-respecting American man buying some transhumanist California fag lover's product. Him, his ideas, his company, and their products are grossly overrated. Fuck Elon Musk. Fuck him and his utopia.
>I'll make no subscription to his paradise
>I'll make no subscription to his paradise
>I'll make no subscription to his paradise

>>131420972
Nice design, unlike Tesla which looks like shit.

>>131423056
>redditors believe this
Lool