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Christian Baker Forced to Do His Job

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Bigots understandably upset!

In Colorado, it has been illegal to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity or expression in employment, housing, public accommodations, education, and credit since the category "sexual orientation" was added to the state's Public Accommodations Law in 2008. The bill was controversial and following its passage by the legislature opponents waged a media campaign that failed to persuade Governor Bill Ritter to withhold his signature.[23]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/26/us/politics/supreme-court-wedding-cake-gay-couple-masterpiece-cakeshop.html?_r=0

http://archive.is/laDco

Breyer

Sotomayor

Kagan

Kennedy

Ginsburg

The baker is simply being forced to do his job equally for all customers. He wouldn't refuse to make a cake for an interracial wedding because the bible frowns on such marriages, would he? Colorado law bans discrimination by virtue of sexuality and this is clearly it. If he wants to discriminate against gays he must restructure his business to not be open to the public.

Imagine being in a small town with only one store of a certain type and they say they refuse to serve gays. We had it out with ALL these issues in the 1950s and 1960s regarding race and bigots lost every time. Why do you expect this will be different? If there are laws prohibiting discrimination, you must follow them. Religion is not an excuse for specific harm.
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Um, he won today though?

The lower courts ruled against him. Had the Supreme Court refused his case, he'd have automatically lost.

That baker won big by the Supreme Court agreeing to hear his case.
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>>131412454

If I was a cake baker and somebody wanted a rainbow flag I'd refuse it on the grounds it's a marketing symbol
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No more conscientious objector status for anyone.
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>>131412454
>you have to bake me a cake if I tell you to
>bash the fash. They can't tell us what to do
What a bunch of faggots
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>>131412454
That's a cool cake

>m&ms
Nevermind
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>>131412454
If I was a baker and they wanted a custom fag cake done but would sue me if I didn't do it. I would charge them twice as much
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>>131412454
I hope whoever made the cake ejaculated in it first. Serves you faggots right
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>America
>Free
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>>131412454
the state has no business dictating to a business how to run their shit. if a shop doesnt want my business fuck em i will support another one who does
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>>131412454
So if someone in Colorado orders a cake with a huge Swastika on the middle, then no bakery are allowed to refuse to make such a cake?
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>>131412454
>Forced to Do His Job
slavery
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>>131412975
Freedom is stupid. A strong authoritarian state is necessary to ensure that Christian bigots treat members of the LGBTQIA+ community equally
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>>131412454

Do jews and muslims not own bakeries?
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>>131412454
>The state should be allowed to force people to participate in a religious ceremony
Good luck. The Supreme Court is going to tell you to your faggot face that bakers don't have to do shit for you.
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>>131412703
Good point, the baker and the ADF (who I assume is taking the case here) wanted the case considered but the fact that the Supreme Court has yet to take on ANY anti-gay discrimination cases to my knowledge in recent years or judge whether gays are a suspect class plus the fact that there are 5 pro-gay justices makes me happy this was considered.
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>>131413018
>the state has no bizness
The Civil Rights Act disagrees
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>>131413018
You mean what the free market work? No we can't have that.
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>>131413100

reposting from ded thread
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>>131412454
also fake. all gays knows how to bake a fabulous cake
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>>131412454
>forced to *bake a cake* by men with guns

Where does this end?

What else are we going to be forced to do, under penalty of death or imprisonment? If gays are this fired up about a fucking cake, just imagine what they'll do next.
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>>131413323
Show me where in the Civil Rights Act it lists sexual orientation as a protected class.
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>>131412454
>jew
>jew
>jew
>basically a jew
>jew
hmm really makes me drink
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>>131413179
Offensive messages may be denied:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/denvers-azucar-bakery-wins-right-to-refuse-to-make-anti-gay-cake

Last week, the Colorado Civil Rights Division ruled that Denver's Azucar Bakery did not discriminate against William Jack, a Christian from Castle Rock, by refusing to make two cakes with anti-gay messages and imagery that he requested last year.

The dispute began March 13, 2014 when Jack went to the bakery at 1886 S. Broadway and requested two cakes shaped like bibles. He asked that one cake have the image of two groomsmen holding hands in front of a cross with a red "X" over them. He asked that the cake be decorated with the biblical verses, "God hates sin. Psalm 45:7" and "Homosexuality is a detestable sin. Leviticus 18:22", according to the Civil Rights Divisions' decision.

On the second bible-shaped cake, Jack also requested the image of the two groomsmen with the red "X". He wanted it decorated with the words "God loves sinners" and "While we were yet sinners Christ died for us. Romans 5:8."

He told the civil rights agency he ordered the cakes with the imagery and biblical verses to convey that same-sex marriage is, in his words, "un-biblical and inappropriate."

Marjorie Silva, the owner of the bakery, told Jack that she would make him the bible-shaped cakes, but would not decorate them with the biblical verses and the image of the groomsmen that he requested. Instead, she offered to provide him with icing and a pastry bag so he could write or draw whatever messages he wished on the cakes.

Silva told the civil rights agency that she also told Jack her bakery "does not discriminate" and "accept[s] all humans."
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I don't why it's so bad to discriminate on your customers as a business
the free market will provide another business that is more receptive
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>>131413323
The Civil Rights Act was the worst violation of property rights in American history. Unlike Rand Paul I'm not in politics so I can tell it like it is.
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>>131413418
missing the point
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God , faggots are such losers. Who gives a fuck what you want? there is no moral imperative for straight White males to accommodate to your bullshit.

Fuck off , eat shit and die faggot.
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>>131413418
Well they have not ruled whether sex is inclusive of sexuality but this case just needs to rest on if Colorado's anti-discrimination law can be enforced, not on federal statutes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/us/civil-rights-act-gay-workers-appeals-court.html
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>>131413569
Archive or screenshot please
https://archive.is/4EVx8
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>>131413569
in that context sex=gender, not sexuality. dont be daft
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>>131413334
I blame Cyrus for this bullshit.
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I think I'm going to go into a Muslim butcher and demand they kill and clean a pig I provide for them. After all, they shouldn't be allowed to discriminate based on their religion.
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>>131412454
The government has no right to regulate private individuals. He should be able to deny both a homosexual and an interracial couple service.
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>>131413900
freedom of association does not exist here
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>>131414046
Uh yes it does homie.
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>>131412454
It's a bill that targets Christians. Only way to combat is by outbreeding the liberals and taking stronghold of the state.
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Faggots are scum. They are vile liars just like women but they aren't women so their behavior isn't even natural , it's just deviancy.
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>>131414096
oh right this entire thread was satire nobody was being forced to do business with anyone :^)
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>>131413900
i dont want a nigger staying in my b&b, so i wont expect ultru conservatives to bake me a gay cake
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>>131414237
People do this to Christian bakeries specifically for money.
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Good, all discrimination is wrong.
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Like we don't know what you're trying to do , no amount of word games will convince me that you're anything other than a lying pedophile faggot piece of shit.
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>>131412454
You do know that all they'll do is take a dump in the cake mix, right? Shit, fags would probably enjoy it anyway.
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>>131412454
Black man forced to do his job
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>>131414318
This. It's like some kind of gay fad now.
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>>131414495
You mean a fucking nigger.
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>>131414564
It's a shame too, places like carvel has been baking/making wedding cakes no questions asked since the 70s
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If I owned a Christian Bakery, I would put up a big sign that said Yes we will bake you a Gay Wedding Cake. We make a special gay version just for our gay customers. The suspicion would drive away most of the gay business.
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>>131412815
https://youtu.be/IST6qRfVqwY?t=3m38s
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why are they not simply saying they dont have time or are short staffed etc?
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>>131412454
This could have been avoided by hanging a "right to refuse service" sign and remaining quiet about the reason why, even though it shouldn't be that way

>>131413788

If you're in Colorado, go for it and good luck anon
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>>131414564
Is it could it be that these couples look for attention any way they can so they can be famous and get on The Ellen Degeneres Show to talk about their hardships and shit?
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>>131413179
Oh no, see only gays, muslims, and blacks have rights. If it is at all supportive of white ethnicity of course the cake will be denied. If you request a fucking muslim baker to bake a gay cake -they- have the grounds to deny it on basis of their religion. Just not Christians. Just not Straights. Just not Whites.
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>>131412454
Faggots should be butchered.
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>>131414917
Because they are proud of their bigotry and think they are above the law. Here is the actual court decision in full for anyone who wants to read it:

http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/16-111-op-bel-colo-app.pdf
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That cake will not only make you homo, it will give you diabetes
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>>131414564
part and parcel of american's litigious culture
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>>131414896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IST6qRfVqwY&feature=youtu.be&t=3m38s

Fuck. Trying to make it start at 3:38. Fail.
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>>131414429
Faggot
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>>131414918
Except it isn't. Even shops with right to refuse service signs are still getting forced with this bullshit.
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This discussions usually lead nowhere , we have irreconcilable points and the only way to solve our differences is through violence.

That fucking Bismarck quote , you know the one.

This one can't be solved with humor , you faggots.
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>>131412454
Privately owned company, says he can refuse service to any and all customers if he so chooses, butthurt gays cant get a wedding cake from him...maybe they should ask a different baker.

Only self righteous gays could come up with scenario any legitimately sane or normal person would shrug it off and move along. Or if the gay was really smart he'd pretend he was straight, to get the cake if he really wanted it.

Either he didn't really want the cake, made a mistake, or it's all fake.
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Christian baker forced to mock his religion to satisfy mentally ill faggots. ftfy.
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>>131415215
Business open to the public is what matters here. If they want to discriminate they can restructure as a private club.
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>Bake a chocolate cake and fill it with pigshit in the shape of a dildo. Rainbow icing with skittles coming out of the top and splooging everywhere.
>/that'll show 'em face
>Fags post on Facebook, Best Cake ever!

Realize most Fags don't eat carbs and the fat ones can't even taste feces anymore.
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the baker should've claimed to be a muslim, then they would've arrested the gay guys for "discrimination" against his religion.
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>>131414429
How about let's not be fucking ironic and leet's just say what we mean for a change?

What are you Sam Hyde? are you a fucking comedian?
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>>131415371

Here are some of the people involved in the case:

Hogan Lovells US LLP, Andrew C. Lillie, Jessica Black Livingston, Denver, Colorado, for Amici Curiae National Council of Jewish Women; Nehirim; People for the American Way Foundation; Reconciling Works; Lutherans For Full Participation; Reconstructionist Rabbinical College and Jewish Reconstructionist Communities; Religious Institute, Inc.; Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund; Anti-Defamation League; Bend the Arc: A Jewish Partnership for Justice; Central Conference of American Rabbis; Global Justice Institute; Hadassah, Women’s Zionist Organization of America; Japanese American Citizens League; Keshet; Metropolitan Community Churches; More Light Presbyterians; T’ruah: The Rabbinic Call for Human Rights; Union for Reform Judaism; Women of Reform Judaism; and Women’s League for Conservative Judaism
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>>131412815
>When faggots and trannies try to look intimidating with their gay-colored bats and axes but forget that conservatives and "the fash" own guns
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>>131412454
Enjoy having pubes in your icing, faggot.
Why would anybody even want to buy a cake from a guy who had to be legally forced to bake it? You don't fuck with people who handle your food. There has to be an entire market full of bakers who are more than willing to accept the business.
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so glad we have these everywhere.... its my business ill do what the fuck i want
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I'll just leave this here
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>>131415409
What a (((cohenicedence)))
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>>131415592
If you refuse service to Blacks, or Christians you can be sued.
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>>131415305
What a bad arguement.
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>>131412454
>Forced
Government get out REEEEEEEE!
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>>131412815
The hilarious part is they are so low test from hormone supplements even if they lift they won't gain much muscle to swing anything.
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>>131415409
Exactly. This is just a liberal assault on Christianity. Completely un-American. Completely totalitarian. I'm starting to respect the WBC.
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>>131415141
>1 post by this ID
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>>131415409

i can hear the hand rubbing from here.
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>>131415823
And that shouldn't be the case. Why don't you find a bakery that doesn't have religious meanings how about order a cake from a gay owner bakery?
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>>131415592
Guess what faggot, you will still be sued. Signs do not protect you.
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How do you restructure your business as a private club? Can you just say "This is a private bakery but membership is free! No gay cakes though!"
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>>131412454
Now why not go to a muslim baker?
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>>131415823
no actually we cant.... maybe if you have video of somebody ranting about that being why they didnt serve you.... but nope, we protect business owners here in Nebraska and dont deal with all this PC shit... I can refuse service to anyone and i dont have to explain shit.
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>>131415554
>You don't fuck with people who handle your food.

LMAO that makes so much sense now that i think about it. What are this faggots even thinking?
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>>131415960
Made up privileges for gays who already have all the same rights as everyone else are not on the same level as unalienable rights under the constitution. If you want to make your own country with your own gay rights then go for it otherwise live peacefully under the rules of the country you've been blessed to be born in.
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Fun fact: In this case the gay couple called local bakeries until they found one that refused then they sued.
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>>131413334
Fuck. If that kid wasn't born HIV positive, I'll bet he will be before he even hits puberty. Sad...
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>>131415954
The gay couple had no idea the bakery owner was religious and hated gays when they ordered the cake. Christians don't have to specifically order from a Christian-owned bakery why should gays have the burden of specifically finding a gay-owned bakery to receive service?

>>131415998
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Private+club
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>>131415823
Fuck off you traitorous nigger loving faggot.
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>>131416096
Feces is a regular part of their diet anyway ( how is that not mental illness?) They're probably immune to it.
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>>131416039
Yes you can. The Civil Rights Act applies to Nebraska same as San Francisco and it protects customers of public accommodations from religious and racial discrimination. Courts have already established that such laws are constitutional.
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>>131415014
Considering many gays are self-absorbed attention whores, that's a good assumption.
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>>131416228
That is false.
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>>131416039
>Neb. Sen. Suzanne Geist of Lincoln speaks in Lincoln, Neb., Thursday, April 6, 2017, during debate on a measure that would protect Nebraska workers from discrimination based on their sexual orientation or gender identity. Senators who support the bill argue it's a civil rights issue and an economic one. They say Nebraska needs to attract and retain young workers, who generally support diversity, while opponents say the measure threatens the religious freedom of business owners who will be forced to hire LGBT people.
>https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/nebraska/articles/2017-04-06/nebraska-starts-debate-on-lgbt-employee-discrimination-bill

Yeah... enjoy being able to do so for a few more months. You're going down the shitter like all the rest of us.
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>>131416274
Cause most christians go to a Christian bakery and don't bitch about it.
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>>131416320
>implying?
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>>131416274
They don't hate gays do your research they refused because they didn't want to disrespect their religious beliefs. But god forbid someone goes to a muslim restaurant and forces them to cook bacon on their sandwich that would be a hate crime.
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>>131415823
No one is refusing service because the client is gay. They're refusing because they don't offer the requested service. What would happen if two straight guys said they were getting married for the tax benefit and wanted a wedding cake? They would be refused because the business doesn't make same sex wedding cakes. The fact that you don't see this tells me that you fundamentally misunderstand the issue.
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>>131412454

BAKE THIS CAKE FOR ME JEWS OR GO TO JAIL
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>>131416096
It's probably the reason why they fought this hard for it.
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>>131416419
That is totally true you lying faggot
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>>131416394
You praise Colorado's state constitution for capitulating to you but think you could exert federal supremacy over Nebraska where even Hispanics voted for trump?
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>>131416707
That's a sweet looking cake, desu.
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>>131412454
I find it hard to believe that there are not enough gay cake bakers around.
Every pastry chef I've met is either a fag or a woman.
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>>131412454
You're really making a strong case for why people shouldn't be libertarians and shouldn't just let you do whatever you want. Just like feminists, and just like BLM, give gays an inch and look at the fascist shit they come up with, and the mental gymnastics you do to convince yourself you're not an authoritarian.
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>>131412454
It's their choice to open a business to the public so they have to obey the laws, including ones on discrimination. If they didn't want to provide services to people they don't like, they should have kept it as a hobby.

>>131416000
Because they don't want it to explode? I do agree with your point though and you know for a fact that in that situation, the SJWs would side with the muslims.
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wouldnt the gays be afraid they would spit in the cake or bill cosby/jonestown them?
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>>131416854
Do you have any source for your claim? AFAIK they walked into a bakery without having any idea of the baker's affiliations.
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>>131416394
like i said.... if i rant about you being a faggot or a nigger and tell you to leave then you may have a case but if im not retarded and just tell you to leave without giving out the real reason you just have to gtfo
>>131416458
yeah this wont pass.... omaha and lincoln are the only blue counties in the state and they get shut down on this shit all the time.... luckily for now the rest of the state is still the majority... most libfags have already moved to denver..
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Keep your inner child alive. I'm out.
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>>131416513
They had no idea the bakery was Christian when they selected it and furthermore being Christian does not grant you magical powers to evade state anti-discrimination laws.

>>131416665
Bible doesn't say not to bake cakes, it says not to have gay sex.

>>131416855
Yes
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>>131412454
Private business doesn't have to ANYTHING it doesn't want to. You faggots have totally lost the sense of what freedom is. This baker does not have a job, he has a PRIVATE business.
The only place where protections like this work is in GOVERNMENT employment.
I'm a person who runs his own business, and I will NOT work with faggots or fag friendly companies. Well I guess I will, but I'm adding a zero or two to the fee for having to put up with mentally ill perverts, and I'll do a shitty job on purpose as well. Take it or leave it, faggot.
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>>131412454
Go suck a dick
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>>131416707
Oh you know we are doing shit like this for a quite a while. We are going to make them regret this. Going to have to find every fag company out there and make do things they don't want to do...
My brain is brainstorming off the charts at the moment!
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>>131412454
He's in business for himself. He's not being forced to "do his job" you're forcing him to do work that he doesn't want to do. Fuck off.
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I would love to bake your faggot cake and rest assured, it will be the best cake you've ever eaten.

All of the stuff in my cake will be there just for you. I hope you fucking enjoy it, you fucking idiot.

Forcing someone to cook your food that you disagree with is a fantastic idea. Let me know the next time you want a faggot cake. I'll bake it up nice and special just for you, you fucking idiot.
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>>131412454
Fucking liberals don't udnerstand live and let live. They'll sit there and screech about how you not bending to their will and being resolute in your own beliefs is some sort of micro-oppression. If you let them force feed you their way of doing things, even then they will not stop trying to change you to think exactly like they think, about everything. Fuck that ideological cancer, and fuck you.
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>>131412454
>Bigots understandably upset!
>In Colorado, it has been illegal to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity or expression in employment, housing, public accommodations, education, and credit since the category "sexual orientation" was added to the state's Public Accommodations Law in 2008. The bill was controversial and following its passage by the legislature opponents waged a media campaign that failed to persuade Governor Bill Ritter to withhold his signature.[23]
>https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/26/us/politics/supreme-court-wedding-cake-gay-couple-masterpiece-cakeshop.html?_r=0
>http://archive.is/laDco
>Breyer
>Sotomayor
>Kagan
>Kennedy
>Ginsburg
>The baker is simply being forced to do his job equally for all customers. He wouldn't refuse to make a cake for an interracial wedding because the bible frowns on such marriages, would he? Colorado law bans discrimination by virtue of sexuality and this is clearly it. If he wants to discriminate against gays he must restructure his business to not be open to the public.
>Imagine being in a small town with only one store of a certain type and they say they refuse to serve gays. We had it out with ALL these issues in the 1950s and 1960s regarding race and bigots lost every time. Why do you expect this will be different? If there are laws prohibiting discrimination, you must follow them. Religion is not an excuse for specific harm.

Idiot (the baker) , he should have excused himself as being too busy or deliver a sub-par product.

People should learn to play on a double standards arena, its 2017, the leftard fags are enraged and should be treated as such.
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You, on some level, think it's ok to force someone to do something. You do not recognize a business' rights to deny service, and you don't understand how monumentally important that is. When someone comes onto your private property, you should be able to kick them out for any reason you want. It can be as simple as they don't like the color of your shirt. Legally, there is no element where you get to judge whether you liked their reason. They tell you to leave, it's their property, you have to leave. You are attacking this concept fundamentally, with no knowledge of and no concern for the potential consequences this would have.

Also, do you think a Jewish baker should be forced to bake a Nazi cake? No, of course not. This proves that you're not fighting for principles, you have a specific idea you want forced on everyone.

I wish you luck though because everyone knows no real social / cultural change can be legislated. Trying to force someone to think in a certain way only pushes them in the opposite direction. So I wish you all the meaningless little trinket victories in the world.
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>>131412454
just say your colorblind and make it shit colored.
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>>131418922
In fact, the social force you describe is the very reason The Powers That Be do what they do. Well that and they want to cull the population also. If you feel driven towards removing all of the worst sort of humans from Earth then it's working. It's not working well enough though because the niggers are just nigging all over the place and no one is doing anything about it. I fear the last of humanity will be niggers nigging themselves to death after having wiped out all of the people long ago.
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>>131419283
>>>131412454 (OP)
>just say your colorblind and make it shit colored.

Exactly, there's no way to make yourself stand on high ground when the rules are against you and people is there to get you, it is a sad state of affairs, but this is reality.
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>>131415014
mfw every single one of these people is, or will be, infected with aids.
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>>131412454
>forced to do their job
Glad to know what the LGBT community thinks of slavery then.
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>>131412454
Well I've located all the jewish bakers in my community. I'll be ordering Nazi cakes from them all. I've located several muslim owned restaurant businesses, and I'll be hosting our anti-mulsim meetups there now. I've located several gay owned t-shirt businesses and I'll be ordering "Only 2 Genders" and "God Hates Fags" t-shirts from them.

They all will have to comply, because the faggots say that people should not discriminate or refuse service based upon religious beliefs.
Good god this is going to be fun. I hope they rule in favor of the faggots on this, so we can make them regret it in the worst way, fan some more culture war flames. And think of the lulz... fucking endless opportunity here.
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>>131419792
If you actually follow through and do that I will fucking suck your dick.

No homo though
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What happened to 'we have the right to refuse service' or does that only apply to certain regions?
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>>131412454
Christians have no balls.
Take your gay cake making needs to a Muslim shop.
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>>131420892

> .webm

Top fucking kek
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>>131412454
if he was a Muslim what would happen...?
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>>131412454
>Imagine being in a small town with only one store of a certain type and they say they refuse to serve gays.

It's called a new business opportunity.
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If the law makes it illegal to deny service, could Neo-Nazis sue an organizational space for not hosting their rally?
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>>131412454

That's literally fascist behavior. it has nothing to do with homosexuality. this is an issue about, just... freedom to do what you want. Freedom to sell whatever you want.
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>>131421066
See
>>131415623
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>>131412454
Yes... now who will stand against me when I use my artificial womb sex bot to conquer the world with my 3 billion children.
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>>131420943
The Civil Rights Act federally, local and state ordinances as well.
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>>131412454
He is a baker by choice. He was not forced to bake cakes for a living. It was a choice. He can refuse to make white cake or German chocolate cake if he so desires. He can only make cakes for people with freckles if he chooses.

Why do you Fascists only believe in choice, when that choice results in a dead child? Everything else in your world has no choice, other than obedience to your will.

You are the Fascists.
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>>131421980
fetuses are not children.
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>>131422724
You faggots are really fucking sick. Can you just stay out of sight and not be heard please? It will make everyone's life better.
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>>131412454
WHAT if the baker simply doesn't make gay wedding cakes? He's not discriminating, he just doesn't offer that product
It would be as if you went to the bakery and asked him to clean out your gutters
When he refused, you sue him for discrimation
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>>131421869

>tfw you are robo-cucked by robo-chad
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I'd rather have private businesses discriminate against faggots than the government discriminate against Christians

Fuck Colorado
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>>131414842
Carvel makes some dope ass cakes tho sempai.
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>>131412454
>go to establishment owned by gays
>get discriminated for being straight and refused service
>gets loads of money
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>>131414046
How long until it will be illegal to refuse someone sex?
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>>131412724
If I was a cake maker I would make a cake with fucking anything on it so long as I'm getting paid.

But it's ridiculous to tell a private business owner who he has to fucking serve.

Just like I wouldn't get all pissed if one of my cities black barbershop refused to cut my hair on the grounds that I am on fact a pasty ass white cracker. It's his fucking shop. It's his service. If he only wants to work on black men that is his business.

This is literally what hating freedom is all about.
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>>131415031
They are a private business. They can sell/not sell to whomever they damn well please.
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>>131412454
>Religion is not an excuse for specific harm.
Unless its a nigger muslim that the kike needs to use to destroy the West.
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>>131412454
>Religion is not an excuse for specific harm.
Fuck this. Whatever happened to:
>We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.
This is not a religious thing, my multicolored, cum-filled friend. This is a liberty issue. I know you're just shilling, but still.

Dayum did you rustle my jimmies.
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>>131415305
>Business open to the public is what matters here
No it isn't. And why do you even think that matters?
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>>131415409
Goddamnit, /pol/ was right again.
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>>131412454
Also, there is no way to determine if service was denied for a specific reason unless the owner says so. IF the owner did not only want attention, he would have said "Sorry were booked solid".
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>>131415409
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>>131412872
THIS
>THIS
THIS
>THIS
THIS
>THIS

If the bakers lose the suit, do you honestly think the cake won't be filled with boogers and cum?
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>>131412454
>forced to do your job
You choose to do your job, you can't be forced to do it. You can be fired if you're not performing adequately or refuse to obey instructions though but not forced to perform activities you don't wish to do. Unless you're a slave in which case you are forced to do your job.

In America, straight white people are slaves to gay and/or black people.
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>>131424421
Colorado has a state anti-discrimination ordinance. I believe in states rights.
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>>131425205
>anti-discrimination
This is not a person looking for an honest job.
This is not a person being turned away from essential services.
This is not a person bleeding on the street left to die.
>It's a fucking cake.
>They brought a lawsuit to the Supreme Court over a fucking cake.
>I guess I just don't see why this is a discrimination case, when literally no harm was done except to hurt the feelings of a little snowflake?
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>>131412454
I bet your panties would be in a bunch if a mudslime had to cook something with pork in it.
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>>131412454
>Kennedy
Top kek
It'll be 5-4 for the baker. Kennedy's not an authoritarian, he'll come down on the side of free expression every time. The baker has no problem making other items for gays, and that's where the gay argument falls apart. The simple fact is you can't force people to create artistic expressions favoring an institution with which they fundamentally disagree.
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>>131415409
>Japanese American Citizens League
But posters on /pol/ told me that Japanese are "based" and "totally right wing" and "naturally conservative?
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>>131417518
Your LARPing could use a little work.
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>>131412454
Please take your mental illness elsewhere thanks
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>>131412454
You statists won't stop until every white person is compelled, by threat of state violence, to perform for your degeneracy. You don't give a shit about Muslim bakeries who do the same. If you're not larping, you're a godawful fag and you should leave.
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>>131413336
Underrated
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>>131426793
I support states' rights and Colorado has a state law protecting gays.
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>>131426809
This is about state law being upheld, not 14th amendment protections.
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>>131426922
But what about the rights of the individual?
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>>131415031
bigotry is not approving of poopdick
ok
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>>131426922
And, I hope, that if it makes it to the Supreme Court they'll uphold the business' right to discriminate in ANY way they chose. If they'd like to excuse a race I think they should be able to, personally. The market will regulate which of those businesses succeed and fail.

My issues is the overreach of state power in private lives and private business, but I'm a Libertarian Nationalist. That is, I believe in the NAP and Individual Liberty for straight, white folks.
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>>131412454
but what if he was Islamic

what

then
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>>131416000
They wouldn't do it
https://youtu.be/bIwqPbFCFck
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>>131427213
To harm other people in a business theoretically open to all members of the public? None.
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>>131412454
bump
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>>131412454
I can't wait to call every faggot bakery I can find and force them to make a Jesus cake
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>>131412454

BAKE THE FUCKING CAKE SLAVE!
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>>131429037

>harm
>refuse service
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>>131430680
What if this were a small town with only one bakery?

What if a pharmacist wanted to refuse HIV meds to a gay man because the bible says they are to be put to death?

This is about way more than just cakes. It is about the right to be served in a public business the same as everyone else. Nowhere in the bible does it say to not make cakes for gay people. It says not to have gay sex.
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>>131412454
Discrimination is the highest moral principle there is. Fight me, faggot
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>>131414192
Correct.
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>>131430517
Good cake ideas:
AIDS kills fags dead
Buttfuckers spread AIDS
Faggots are not human
Dykes are a myth
Niggers and faggots should eradicate each other
Faggots are meant to be burned
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>simply being forced to do his job
Sounds like slavery to me
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>>131430904
And? So what?

And there is no such thing as a public business.
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Just get one of these instead.
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>>131430904

>public business

I believe the business in question was a privately owned bakery.
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>>131412454
Why don't these bakers ask for a super high price like 10,000 dollars?
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>>131412454
Just make the cake and poison the damn things with three day old cracked eggs.
Bunch of dumb-asses.
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>>131430904

But it's not. And forcing people to make something, like a cake, on pain of prison or poverty, is evil. How about if I forced you by law to bake a cake that said "Homosexually is disgusting"?

Entirely different scenario than a pharmacy not selling medicine.
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>>131430904
Jesus also said man and woman marriage only. The cake is for an unholy marriage. Blatent violation of doctrine.
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>>131413439
>Offensive messages may be denied
To the Christian baker, a pro-gay message would be offensive.
Why is he not allowed to refuse on the same grounds?
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>>131431720
The Colorado anti-discrimination law in question concerns public accommodation. That is businesses open to all members of the general public.

>>131432690
They tried that. It failed.

see
>>131413439
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>>131412815
They spend their weekends on Tumblr posing with bats meanwhile the people they hate spend their weekends doing the following:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGs6DFbgA3A
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>>131412454
that would be the saltiest cake ever made.
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>>131413749
Frig off Randy
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>>131432979

Have you ever debated an authoritarian before? They don't understand concepts like differing opinions or their own fallibility. This is what makes the authoritarians. If you are absolutely right then politics is easy, just force everyone to believe what you believe.
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You should declare yourself a religious organization or aligned with one if you want to be exempt from serving people with your place of business.

Announce you refuse to serve gays like any other person walking in the door.

That way people can boycott your bigoted ass and let the free market run you conservatard Christfags outta business.
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>tfw Coloradan
I wish I has the money or occasion necessary to buy one of this poor bastard's cakes.
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>>131412454
A private business or organization should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.
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>>131412454

https://pastebin.com/XKGJFQvp
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>>131412454
>If there are laws prohibiting discrimination, you must follow them.
That is where you are wrong. Laws are man made. The only reason to follow them is because they are backed with violence, yet there is no morality behind them. Homosexuality and perversion is only promoted because it harms our sense of dignity and healthy shamefulness.

But good force us to bake your gay cakes, but do not wonder when they contain some very nasty secret ingredients. It is the perfect opportunity for retaliation. Remember this when you eat the cake.
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>>131436460
His business has gone up significantly since his publicly announced bigotry.
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>won't bake gay wedding cake for straight people.
>won't bake gay wedding cake for fags
Sounds like equal treatment to me.
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>>131416707
Fuck, that looks so good.
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>>131416274
The difference is that Christianity does not infringe anyone's beliefs, while homosexuality does.
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Some folks have no Morals, Ethics, Integrity, or Conscience.

Some do?

If some Faggot came to you and asked you to draw a cock and balls on a cake, or asked you to put a "Progressive" fucking a sheep, or fucking dog in the Ass?

Some folks might have a Moral Objection to that?

I would say rightly so!

As for the "Anything Goes",or "Do What Thou Wilt" type of depraved Shit-Stains who think they should be able to force their Demonic Agenda on others...

I'm wondering why the rights of the Deviant supersedes the rights of an ethical moral person?
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>>131424257
This. Its business, not gonna let my hate of people get in the way especially when its people like these who will ruin your life and burn down your store leaving you broke from lawyer fees.

But fuck if it isnt ridiculous to cry to the police because they dont want to bake you a fuckin cake. Go elswhere and take your business with you. Thats what freedom is
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>>131412724
Just take a $10000 Rainbow fee and don't mention anything about fags. If they want to take a homo pride stance and accept it to force the baker to still make it it's their retarded choice.
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>>131412454
>Baker forced to do work for someone else's benefit.
This is also known as slavery, faggot.
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>I think this person hates me.
>I better force him to handle my food.
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>>131412454

Someone needs to go to san franscisco and hit up a bunch of gay bakeries, asking to have a "thank you president trump" cake made and recording everything on video
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmdiqB_8l2k
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>>131446142
Only if you want your cake made with AIDS infested faggot jizz for icing.
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>>131413334
even some of those women have that "that's kind of fucked up" face, that's when you KNOW shit's going left, jesus christ america get it together you pedo fags
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>>131446423
>Im fucking plying he'd actually eat it.
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