Is homosexuality a mental illness?

>>131406725
Yes.

>>131406725
obviously.

>>131406725
yup

>>131406725
Trans is, not entirely sure about gayness

Of course

>>131406725
No it's a fetish

>>131406725

It has no evolutionary benefits so yes it is a mental illness

>>131406725
To be honest, I wouldn't care about faggots so much if they didn't try to shill their faggotry.

If you want to get fucked by another man, go for it, but I don't need to hear the details and how you need more shit because of it.

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DSM-6 is in the process of classifying heterosexuality as a mental disorder caused by hormonal imbalance.

>>131406725
It's a perversion

>>131406960
Well hold on there it might. What if homosexuals have some switch triggered in their brains that let's them know they're not genetically viable as breeding partners?

>>131406725
No it's the result of sin and perversion.
You can be cured OP.

Let's put it to you this way: if they were perfectly normal human beings would we have stuck them into motorized cages and paraded them in front of citizens like captured slaves?

No. We wouldn't. These are just the next batch of useful idiots the jews will be utilizing.

>>131406725
Is being short a mental illness?

>>131407006
that's not how it works though.
Degenerates feel compelled to spread it.
That's a basic universal truth understood by everyone not 100 years ago.
And why antihomo laws existed.

Only if u bottom more than 80% of the time

>>131406725
Yes, caused by being gay diddled as a kid.

>>131406725
It certaintly was classified as such in psychology years ago and then something happened (*cough* political correctness *cough*)

>>131406725
Not as bad as Candianism

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>>131407270
Only 50% of homos are molested as kids

>>131406725
Yes

>>131407333
Nice. You've almost got a rainbow flag going there.

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>>131406725
yes

110% mental illness. There is absolutey no evolutionary reason for homosexuality. It's like a mutation.

>queerbait thread
try harder
summer will be over soon

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We need to get back to calling it homophilia.

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>>131406725
>Is homosexuality a mental illness?
Not necessarily. Hear me out.
Faggotry, I believe, is natures way of removing
undesirable DNA from the human race.
Harmful attributes/DNA/behavior are resolved
very simply by removing the desire to reproduce. So if nature does it on purpose, it's
not a mental illness. Just a simplistic way to
weed out inferior genes/DNA.

>>131407649
Gays are more creative and provide more innovations to humans, so yes, there is an evolutionary advantage.

Yes.
https://ghostbin.com/paste/y5vx2

>>131407826
Absolute nonsense.
>>131407837
Kys leafag

>>131406725

yes

>>131408304
Are you saying I'm wrong?

>>131408462
Name one thing faggots have "innovated".
Besides restricting free speech.

>>131407826
Problem with that theory is that, until comparatively recently, queers married and had kids. I know a few myself who have opted for a heterosexual marriage in order to have kids.

But I would say that the modern gay lifestyle is a definite psychopathology. It reeks of self-loathing and despair.

>>131406725
Yes, but incurable. They should be diagnosed as a terminal homosexuals.

>>131407096
I find this intersting. Bit of a catch 22 tho.

>>131407351
>only 50%

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>>131407096
That's an interesting theory. It's certainly not genetic or else the gay gene would of long gone extinct.

Yes

but a congenital one.

ie born predisposed and can't be cured.

>>131407351

>Have the fag gene (or mom with fag gene who fag hormones you in utero)
>get raped by fag as a child
>become a fag

yup

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Yes, thank God there is a cure though.

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Degeneracy is a mental illness

>>131406725
it's a perverse and satanic life choice

>>131409115
Well the Greek fags still had wives and children.

>>131410259
What is a Bambi...never mind I'll find out and be right back

>>131407096
This is one of those theories that sounds kind of reasonable when you write it out in one sentence, but is completely illogical when you try to expand upon it. There are no known neurological mechanisms that can do this, and it sure as hell didn't evolve out of thin air.

>>131406725
yes

I fap to gay porn and I've had a few encounters but so what, it's not gay if you're not really into it 100%

>>131410720
Couldn't find it. Kinda glad.

>>131406725
Trans girl reporting in. Yes it's a mental illness.

>>131409828
the fag gene doesn't exist.
It's something liberals made up for their "born that way" meme

>>131411514
You wish you disgusting cumrag.
Truth is you got fucked up by watching anime etc. and you got a sissification fetish, like 90% of so called "trans" faglets.

K Y S

>>131411637
Not sissification, believe me. I'm not a cuck or something man.

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>>131406725

Hey.

l'm a pozcuck. You want to know what that is? Listen closely.

The normal cuckold wants just one gift from his black bull: a black child. But the pozzed cuckold wants more. He wants three gifts. We are greedy little bitches. But first, here's how it goes.

Normally I drive in my Mercedes to a street gym where ripped blacks train their muscles, their skin shining with sweat and the air filled with their scent. I am already a bit hard just from thinking about it. Sometimes I cum a bit in my pants. I get out of the car and ask who of them has AIDS. Then they know what happens.

The black man with AIDS gets into my car and we drive to somewhere isolated. Then I take a small knife and stick it inside the hole of my penis and twist it a litte. In the cuckold community we call this the HIV Twister. Sure it hurts and causes me to bleed. But it is worth it.

Then the black man docks me until we both cum and I contract his AIDS. I already have 4 types of AIDS from this. That is the first gift. Then we drive on to my house and he fucks my wife (a beard), who has also contracted many types of AIDS. That is the second gift. And then 9 months later the third and best gift arrives: a black child who also has AIDS.

http://pozitivebreeding.tumblr.com/post/158818067844/elfinion3-pozzing-him-up-verbally-2127m-was
⬆getting fucking CHARGED!⬆

>>131406725
pride parade types are absolutely ill.

>>131411523
Literally nobody even thinks there is a gay gene except retards on the internet in places like this. Don't lie to yourself and think that it's a liberal plot.

>>131406725
Yes

>>131406725

Yes.

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IGNORE SODOMITE ORDERS

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>>131412067
agree. fucking sick of the people who go out and demand attention just for being lgbt, like they deserve special rights or something for it.
like i'm sure people on here have said, there's a difference between being gay and being a faggot.

>>131407351
>Only

>>131406725
Maybe.
I'd label it as a disorder though.

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>>131406725
It's human right to be sick

>>131408654
Turing was pretty innovative

>>131407175
No, but being on the short bus is.

>>131406725

It's a "biological illness" as it impedes or outright stops an individuals from being able to reproduce, which is the sole purpose of a biological organism. Now if the faggot in question has siblings who has kids and they help raise them at least some of his genes are being passed on as he shares a center amount of genetic info with his siblings.

Mayo clinic:
>Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions — disorders that affect your mood, thinking and behavior.

I guess it could be considered a mental illness too under that definition

>>131407096

but what makes them not viable? besides the fact that they're gay, and they're only gay because they're not viable..etc.

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>homosexuality

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>Meth + Boy

>>131406725
They turn the definition of illness to their liking. Today it's perfectly healthy and normal, tomorrow it's going to be an illness again.

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>just chem the fuckers up

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Read these images and then try and tell me that these abominations shouldn't be exterminated.

>>131411959
>i´m a pozcuck
Stopped reading there, kill yourself.

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>>131412950
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>>131413065
I don't like the way humanity is going.

>>131411315
It's a discord for fans of a certain bimbofication hypnosis session, which creates a bimbo personality named Bambi, who subverts the old you. Everyone on the discord is given the nickname Bambi. The hypnosis files in question are known to be notoriously powerful amongst the hypnofetish community.

Read Foucault and stop being so dumb, mental illness can be what you call it to be, so if you think so yes, shrinks considered one back in the 80s

>>131413038
Ovens where a meme for me until I read this. 616 here we go

>mental illness

No it's a soul illness

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no and yes

no: a mental illness is defined by, obviously, mental state, not the actions of a person. A person who has an outburst of anger does not have to have Intermittent explosive disorder.
This means that not all people who get buttsex do so because they are mentally ill in the literal sense. I'm willing to bet most of them do so because they are confused (teenagers with the typical retarded phase or fatasses who are desperate for any kind of affection) or are "so progressive!

that said

yes: there are definitely a lot of characteristics of typical homosexuals that translate perfectly into a personality disorder:

>a set of patrons in the behavior of a person that is imposed and persistent in all situations of their life, affecting actions, though and relationships
shit definition because I can't translate for shit

Typical homosexuals behave weird, in a form that is way beyond just having same-sex relationships. The most ubiquitous is the speech impediment (that fag accent) which they are unable to correct. Other things are the mannerism, the correlation with histrionic tendencies, much lesser appreciation of risk, reduced responsibility, etc.

TL;DR: we should make a definition like "homosexual pattern disorder" to signal when a faggot is mentally ill and when its only stupidity

>>131413178
each one should go through a vetting process to determine the level of societal destructive potential they pose and if it's too much then yes.

>>131414784
i would argue that you should find those who are repentant among them, and have them change their ways, and then cast the rest out. maybe exile them to an island and let them die of their poopdick diseases.

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arr, they be degenerates

>>131415979
https://ghostbin.com/paste/y5vx2
here is the pastebin.

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>>131406725
>another homobait thread
Why do people care about this shit so much? Do we really feel so threatened by gays that we have to constantly keep making threads about them? Is it really that big of a problem?

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>>131414087
>Fagcault
>poztmodernism
>Mexican intellectualism

>>131416092
>>131415979

General question, if toxoplasma gondii causes moms to birth gay babies, where is the antibodies in the bloodstream of that said baby?

>>131406725
No, it's a character trait that people on both sides of the argument make far too big a deal of.

>>131417414
It's postulation. I posit that it is the increasingly lax policies on sexual perversion.

>>131416798
found the faggot

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>>131407837
Absolute nonsense.

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well LGBT people function normal, it's just a sexual preference so, No it's not a mental illness, it's a product of evolution and is completely natural, grow the fuck up already!

>winners

What do they win?

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>>131406725
I know that if homosexuality is not a mental illness, then there is no such thing as mental illness.

>>131417535
Agreed, ever since the 60's of the sex revolution it's been a slippery slope since.

can anyone name any historical gay figures good/bad? I still see stating all homosexuals to be mentally ill as a dumb assumption

>>131418223
t. sodomite

>>131406725
yes. genetic suicide

>>131407351
>Only 50%
I have a friend who is obsessed with anal sex with men who got irrationally angry when I showed him CDC's HIV stats.

>>131418699
fuck your religion!

>>131411959
You will all die very soon due to your aids, and I cannot say that anything of value has been lost in that case. In fact, I could equivocate it to removing puss from an inflamed boil. Quite useful and necesary.

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>>131406725
yes

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Yes

>>131406725

Don't really know. I think it's an early socialization issue. Trans is different though, partial schizophrenia + dysmorphic disorder.

>>131417162
>Single
>words
>No argument
>Foucault not even Mexican

>Can only think in single sentences and words I dont like, and dont even know the meaning of, but this board told me not to like

>>131406881
This guy gets it.
Its a preference, no different than being into feet or liking chicks in a schoolgirl outfit.

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>>131406725
of course it's a mental illness, but more importantly it's normally caused by some sort of trauma.
anyone who's LGBT that i have any association with has revealed to me or a mutual friend that they received some form of sexual abuse as a child, and that's typically the way they are.
It gets worse the further down you go, a "normal" gay man might have suffered some abuse, but with a transsexual it is much worse.

There's a reason partner abuse is so strong in lesbian relationships, and why transsexuals kill themselves on a massive scale.

They don't need hatred, they need help, and what they REALLY don't need is someone enabling their path to suicide.

LGBT is the product of abuse and societal degeneracy, these people are victims turned perpetrator in a terrible cycle oftentimes.

>>131406725
My theory on it is it's technically a birth defect. When you're growing in the womb you're bombarded with Estrogen and Testosterone. The balance of these determine your X and Y chromosomal pairing. During this phase, children who will grow up to be homosexual will experience a surplus of Estrogen, however they still retain enough Testosterone to make them male in the first place and not be completely gender dysphoric. Anyone wanna compound on this or refute it?

>>131418651
They are mentally ill.

If one absolves oneself of all agency, then asserts that the purpose for the condition in question was outside of their control/natural, then they are denying themselves agency and are deluded.

I will extend the argument, in principle (so not an exact equivalence). As a side-note, gay men who use sperm swapping and IVF with a surrogate are bisexual, as the act of procreation is dependent on the opposite sexes exchanging genetic information. Even if penetration is not involved, utilizing the ova when you actually are not supposed to ever have access to it (by definition of exclusive homosexuality) is bisexual, to a degree, as you actively seek out the fruit of the opposite sex.
Onto the point. If I slice off my balls (as two gay men will never be able to have children just as I, who did not previously keep sperm samples, will never have kids without my testes) and claim I was born like that, then I am deluded.

I guess you could call it that from a Darwin perspective.

That being said it doesn't actually matter, and this thread is just bait to do the same thread about LGBT that's been had a million times.

>>131418999
oh and to add the links between literal unironic autism and gender dysphoria are clear, and should not be all that startling.

and trips of truth

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>>131416798
>doesn't understand that faggotory is the source of all degenerate acts and the spark to a falling society
kys faggot

It's mostly the byproduct of:
Feminizing men.
Promotion by the (((media))).
Chemicals in the food (estrogen mimicers.)
Destruction of the family unit.
General acceptance by society.

And in some cases it is mental illness.

>>131419156
To add onto that, they are either born that way (biologically defective) or they are choose to remove themselves from the gene pool. Either way, useless subhuman filth.

>>131406725
yes.

>>131419393
"surprise" ruling
who are these syrup slurpers kidding?

>>131406881
Animal behaviour seems to indicate it's also a response to overpopulation.

i dont know and i dont care what it is

what i know is that im fucking sick to my ass listening to shit about faggots

like a day cant go past that i dont hear this or that on fucking fags

wish they'd all drop dead already

>>131406725
Yes, homosexuality is fake and gay.

"Cease thy faggotocious ways."
Allah

>>131418993
Wait a minute, you're actually right

Any type of person that willingly transfers std's to another person can definitely be considered mentally ill.

>>131407064

> DSM-6 is in the process of classifying heterosexuality as a mental disorder caused by hormonal imbalance.

And this is what happens when you let leftist politics into "science"

>>131406725
Yes. It's a statistical aberration.

>>131406725
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>>131407837

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>>131420564
dammit you ruined it!

Yes.

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>>131407064
they are right.
Being attracted to something that doesn't look like you and inferior to you (a women) is Wrong and mentally ill.

>>131406725
Absolutely it's perverted, twisted and sick behavior.

>>131406725
It wont exist much longer as they are not reproducing anywhere near enough to sustain their homosexuality genes.

>>131420846
>homosexuality genes

that's not a thing though

>>131406725
Maybe. But it's not hurting anyone so who gives a shit?

>>131420715
why you give a shit about them, my attitude towards faggots is: "meh, i don't give a shit, it's their life"

>>131421186
This is true, it's called a teleological fallacy. Some things can be the result of many genes, or the interaction of other genes. If it is natural, then gays are biological defects.

>>131421248
exactly

always been bisex

never been able to cure, never had any history of mental issues from what i could tell. Maybe theres something ive never been able to cure, but idk. i just dont really care anymore, its been so long. Just always thought boys were cute like girls. never understood the rampant desire to go to gay pride parades and shit and be a social justice type. stayed in the closet for years cause every time I told someone they would go off on the whole "oh wow you must love (X leftist idea)" or whatever it was. never really understood the appeal of making your whole life about one part of your being but i can say ive never felt more ashamed of being into men than I have since the recent political atmosphere surrounding it. Or maybe ive just been involved with more political people, i dunno. but yeah, being represented by such a group en masse is the best way to keep lots of gays in the closet, thats for sure.

>>131406725
Absolutely is mental illness.
A very sick, sick, mental illness.

To me more interesting question is what causes it. I know some homosexuals, men and women, and what they ALL have common is bad father issues. I have always thought if its just a coincidence.

Wrong question imbecile. There is really no such natural catagory as homosexual. There is only homosexual behaviour practised by men and women. Like a socksexual, washclothsexual, dildosexual. Stupid people.

>>131419719
do you always get your news from memes?

no, i can't go and fuck animals now. also i won't be prosecuted for not referring to someone by their preferred gender pronoun.

>>131421680

Same here senpai. Although I'm not out, just because I don't think it's worth making a scene of. Everybody makes a big deal of that shit, an I don't see any value in creating that kind of situation. Fuck pride parades too. My orientation isn't something that I use as an identifier, it's just another fact about me.

I believe those kinds of people are the reason why there's nowhere near as much acceptance of other types than there should be. The flaming type of faggot is a fucking insult, and I do think those people genuinely are mentally ill.
Although I'm not a total 50/50 bi, I'm more 80% 20% men, but still. Faggotry is faggotry.

I'm also a Trump supporter. Hue.

>>131408654
Alexander the Great
Frederick the Great
Alan Turing
King James I
Sir Francis Bacon
Leonardo da Vinci
Walt Whitman
Walt Disney
Aristotle
Socrates
Plato
Hadrian
Tiberius
Ralph Waldo Emerson
William Butler Yeats
Tennessee Williams
Michaelangelo
Tchaikovsky
Oscar Wilde
John Maynard Keynes
George Bernard Shaw

>>131422259

80% prefer women, 20% prefer men. It takes a really specific type of dude to make me interested. Not sure what happened to my post. Meh.

>>131422293 you fogrot Willem II

>>131421680
Also the things is that people who are generally hostile towards gays don't know anyone gay in personal, so they perceive them as not-humans, they don't have ability to empathize with them until they get that they are normal human beings, they just like boys instead of girls, big deal...

P.S if someone gay shows interests with you, don't be hostile towards them, just tell them that you are not gay period.

>>131406725
Dementia of some kind.
Actualy i can give a rundown of real roots and non-chemical solution... But who cares?

>>131422293
also probably Newton... but nobody really knows, he ad really close relationship with swiss mathematician but also he had crush (girl) in teenage years, so nobody knows, he died a virgin tho

>>131422464
It was just a quick list off the top of my head.

My point was gays have been around forever and include some of the most influential and innovative people in history.

>>131422945
Newton may have just been a beta permavirgin. That may also include some of the others on my list.

We don't actually know Fred the Great was gay but he never took a wife and had a "questionable" relationship with a male friend growing up

>>131406725
Yes

>>131406725
Yes.

>>131422293
>citation needed

>>131423702
So ignorant, be embarrassed. Some influential and innovative people did sexuality with the same type of genitalia as they had. Big freaking deal, it doesnt mean anything at all. Whatever thing you use to stimulate your genitals doesnt make you anything other than a man or woman stimulating with whatever living or nonliving object you want.

>>131406725
Not at all

A mental illness must cause significant stress or grief to the patient, or must involve some kind of delusion.

Being gay is just a preference. We just like sucking cocks.

>>131406725
Yes it is, but as the same way as any other mental illness we should not make fun of it, but also we should not encourage it.

>>131408839
yeah lol right compared 7% non fag

>>131424387
What's your point? I never claimed that these men were successful or more influential as a result of being gay. Only that gay people can be innovative. You are moving the goalposts.

>>131424370
>citation needed
Not going to do this for every one because that will take me a long-ass time. Name one or two and I'll get you a source.

>>131406725
Based on mentality not biology, so mental illness.

>>131424822
Plato, Socrates, Aristotle. Emerson is known, Whitman is, too. Keynes is also truthful. WIlde, too. Also, cite me Michaelangelo.

>>131421400
Because they insist on spreading their cultural cancer into normalcy. It should be looked down upon as shameful behavior and forced underground not praised as something that it is ok to emulate. Also it's self inflicted mental illness, we should not to look to help these people.

>>131424822
Point is there is no such thing as gay. There is no a third sex, only those who do homosexual behavior same as any other object used to stimulate oneself.

>>131425077
I'll give you that Michaelangelo is a stretch.

Read his poems - the ones to Tomasso del Cavalieri are particularly homoerotic.

(Translated)
I feel as lit by fire a cold countenance
That burns me from afar and keeps itself ice-chill;
A strength I feel two shapely arms to fill
Which without motion moves every balance.

Also never married. The most likely reason why someone remained a bachelor in the 16th century was because he was a raging Mo

>>131406811
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>>131425077
Greeks had a pederastic society which was incredibly destructive and corrupt. They created a culture that promoted homosexual love because it was an honest to goodness misogynistic society.

A lot of later scholars and artists fall into the trap and espouse it.

The reality is homosexual tendencies are not only a mental and moral corruption but their prevalence signifies how sick the society is as well. The slippery slope argument has been provem to be true, id the pendulum doesn't swing back soon we are likely to see pederasty become a societal norm.

>>131426068
That isn't really proof that he is gay. Just because somebody isn't married and some historians reach with his poetry doesn't make him a homosexual. There is a categorical difference between Whitman and Michaelangelo.
What about Plato and Aristotle?

>>131426193
I am aware, but I want a citation because the guy claimed they were homosexual. That means no female sexual interest. But I doubt that is truthful. He might meant that they were bisexual. I await the citation.

>>131422293
Walt Disney was not gay you fucking faggot

>>131425777
Gay is just a preference

Saying there's no such thing as gay is like saying there's no such thing as "cat people" or "dog people"

People who base their entire identity on there preference of genital stimulation are cancer tho. Notice in my list I didn't list any flaming fags (except perhaps Oscar Wilde) because those types of gays are never successful or innovative

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Homos aren't mentally ill, it's a phenomenon that occurs naturally in other species in nature, just so long as they were never sexually abused as kids, then it might be curable with specialised cognitive behavior therapy.

The other snowflake conditions however? i give you this blog;

https://www.minds.com/blog/view/619184847767744523

>>131426619
>People who base their entire identity on there preference of genital stimulation are cancer tho
>literally t. LGBT poster

>>131426619
Still waiting on a citation for Plato and Aristotle, btw. Show that they were homosexual.

Homosexuality is a pattern of behavior, not a specific disorder in itself. Think of it as a symptom rather than an illness.

This guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Panzram
In all likelihood engaged in homosexual acts as an expression of underlying severe mental illness.

Frederick the Great? Perhaps not so much.

>>131426543
You say that because he turned you down?

>>131406725
Yes. A rare sort of mental illness which only the white people seem to have it.

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>>131406725

Homosexuality in Ancient Greece - The Myth is Collapsing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHk9JoXoBMY&t=221s

https://archive.org/details/AdonisGeorgiadesHomosexualityInAncientGreeceTheMythIsCollapsing

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/ask-us-iam-attracted-to-gay-transsexual

>>131426751
i think its fair in his case as hes speaking on defense of homosexuals that arent the san fran gay pride fags, doesnt necessarily mean thats his identity at all. just something he felt necessary to talk about.
>>131426797
i wasnt here for most of this argument, but i dont feel it likely that plato or aristotle were gay.

>>131426619
Thank you, exactly! Its a personal preference of behavior. There is no naturally occuring gay people. Only people who abandon natures obvious order and decide for whatever reason they prefer alternative physical means for sexual stimulation.

>>131427296
Freddy Mercury wasn't white.

>>131406725
I don't believe it is, but I believe the portion is a lot smaller than leftists make it out to be.
I believe that claiming a state of mind for attention is a mental illness.

I've been confident that it is for a while now, simply because it serves no biological purpose.

>>131427411
So he doesn't get to complain about basing identities off of something he identifies as.
>but i dont feel it likely that plato or aristotle were gay.
So the claim is dismissed because there's no evidence for it. Just another faggot gleaning attention with JK Rowling-tier "did you know this character is a poc trans foxkin?".

>>131426245
Not the same guy but didn't Plato write that homosexuality was "against nature" or something? Also didn't he live to be like 80? If he was participating in buttsex he might've died much earlier of syphilis, unless he was gay without actually ever having sex with a dude.

>>131427263
LOL YEP HAHAHA, no because he was actually a great man whose legacy is shit on and warped to this day, so the last thing he needs is some disgusting faggot besmirching him further

>>131427668
Do you consider, say, an interest in skateboarding a mental illness?

>>131427989
>syphilis
>>131428096
Or hanging out on /pol/ -- also see my famous post: >>131407837

Do gays really get no feelings for naked women at all? You´d think they would fuck anything with a hole.

>>131427749
theres a difference between it being a part of your identity and the entirety of it. in this specific discussion he feels the need to make it more pronounced, that doesnt mean that its the entirety, or the majority of his being.

also, i shouldve stated that my reasoning for believing they werent gay was due to the fact that there is a lack of proof. if they were only interested in men and never told anyone, public or private, then we would never know either way. I also dont feel like its that important to argue over their sexuality, but maybe im wrong.

>>131426751
Do you base your entire identity on the fact that you are a pirate? Because you used a pirate flag

>>131426797
For Plato, read Phaedrus' speeches in the Symposium, I can't find a proper PDF but there's a blatant endorsement of the Pederasty system around book 7. Plato was against Gay marriage but was a huge proponent of pederasty.

Aristotle was also a proponent of Pedagogical Pederasty

>>131427989
We have IDs, I can see if you're the same guy.
Idk what Plato wrote. I just see some guy call him a fag, I want proof.

>>131406725
technically i guess

>>131428354
According to Freud, most humans are bisexual. So perhaps that explains why you sometimes want to grease-up some muscular black dude.

>>131407826
What about those gays who are able to lift more than their straight counterparts or fight better than straight guys?
What is inferior about those genes?

>>131406811
FPBP nigga

>>131406725
Are mental illnesses real? No. Only spiritual problems. Only kikes like you have those

certainly

>>131428354
Not at all interested in women. Never have been even a little.

>>131428356
>in this specific discussion he feels the need to make it more pronounced, that doesnt mean that its the entirety, or the majority of his being.
As it is represented, it encapsulates his identity. I cannot know what he is like in real life. This is the available evidence.
>also, i shouldve stated that my reasoning for believing they werent gay was due to the fact that there is a lack of proof.
You and I both.
>>131428472
>Do you base your entire identity on the fact that you are a pirate? Because you used a pirate flag
Pirates don't exist anymore. There are no rogue anarchists sailing the high seas unmolested and wreaking havoc. LGBT is a current group advocating sexual perversions.
> I can't find a proper PDF
So stop making baseless claims. Where is the proof he engaged in such activities? You make the claim so boldly, but you wait twenty posts before shitting out a 'go look for it yourself' post.

>>131428486
Why do you think he lived platonic relations with women?

>>131406725

If it isn't, then it isn't inherited from birth, and therefore shouldn't be a basis to receive equal rights.

If it is, then we will eventually be able to screen for it, and the very procedure liberals fought for will be used to abort people of the group they champion. Eventually, homosexuality will become a distant memory. Remember, 99% of downs syndrome children are aborted. You'll have your fringe virtue signalers, but since the number of born homosexuals will be so low, it will become socially uncool - that's when you know it's done for.

Medfag here.

No, it's a birth defect in women. Women who have the birth defect produce children with the gay gene. I'm working on a gene therapy that will cure it.

>>131406725
>Who else feels the need to rub their sexuality in everyone's face and demands everyone accept them or else calls them names?
Literally just fags. Not even bisexuals do this and they're considered huge attention whores by normies.

>>131428781
>truvada
>lies and obsessions
>surrogacies
With all this, what is left to hate? Your pussy whip? Enjoy your defiling original sin brought about by pussy. There is nothing is the bible that uses our modern words to bash us. When it uses their old words about it? It blesses us. Mess yourself, false witness

>>131428486
What's your definition of a fag? Someone that doesn't exclusively have sex with women?

If that's the case 4 out of the first 5 roman emperors (not Claudius) were fags. Basically every Ancient Greek scholar or general was a fag because of Pederasty

>>131406725
No, it's more like a hobby.

>>131428955
>please accept my fat fish platter of a girlfriend and her throat cancer causing yeast infections. And zika. And incurable gonorrhea. Amd charlie sheen who caught HIV with 700 vaginas. And the fact we made this all in the garden and in a lab
Nah
>>131428943
Xq28 gene. Since Eve laid the devil God probably won't let any of this crispr shit happen. Dont you know about sept 23? Cure yourself and your pear earth and "nookes" and "moon landings" black bow tie man

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>>131428943
Will that cure effeminate males or homosexuality? Because we still want lesbians.

>>131428354
My eyes are drawn to good looking women (shapely legs in particular), but I really don't get that sense of "I want to hit that" in any way.

I also can't really relate on a personal level with most women contrary to the stereotype that us fags prefer to hang out with women. The few that I did/do enjoy hanging out with are either very intelligent or have particular kind of joyful but cynical personality.

>>131429184
Maximum stink. Nobody likes these nakes whores. Put them in a man's shirt. They cant function at all and i dont need their constant garbage. What do you have in common with them? Fuck all. And no women even like you. Or any males

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>>131428811
>Pirates don't exist anymore
Pic related

>baseless claims
Do I need to explain to you how Greek pederasty worked? I thought this was common knowledge.

>>131428833
I don't know, but the evidence we have is that his identity/flag is faggotry. So that is the basis for reasoning. He can elaborate later, but initially, that is the logical conclusion.
Hence the hypocrisy of berating "those bad flaming gays" when he LARPs as an LGBT retard.
>>131429098
Faggot is a bundle of sticks, or a slur for a gay man. Homosexuals cannot have sex with women because there is no attraction.
>If that's the case 4 out of the first 5 roman emperors (not Claudius) were fags.
If they had children, they are not exclusively homosexual. Two spermatozoa cannot fertilize one another.
Also further illustrating the JK Rowling-tier "Hermione was a trans POC, now". Context, citations, and definitions. Bisexual=/=homosexual.
Also, the common argument from your side of the camp is that homosexuals are not disproportionately pedophillic because the two are separate fetishes. However, the definition of homosexuality concerns sex, not age. That's where pedophilia comes in and illustrates an age attraction. One can be attracted to the same sex and different age groups, making them a homosexual pedophile. Not to mention faggot disease rates or promiscuity rates.
>>131429416
What faction is he a part of?
>Do I need to explain to you how Greek pederasty worked? I thought this was common knowledge.
Debate requires evidence. Cite your claims instead of "u shud kno dis" non-arguments.

>>131429184
No, it will cure all forms of homosexuality. There no longer will be women capable of producing them.

>it really is a birth defect in women that causes homosexuality
>I'm not trolling.

>>131429578
Here's a 140 page scholarly paper on the Practice of pederasty in Athens. Every male of high birth entering into the Academy or Military had to go through this system. Getting buggered by an older man was a requirement

>>131430035
Oops forgot link
https://repository.asu.edu/attachments/93836/content//tmp/package-0cdwUj/Deegan_asu_0010N_11726.pdf

>>131430035
Nice source.

>>131430102
There she is.
So, where does it state that these males were exclusively homosexual?

>>131430021
Well I guess they can still "act" lesbian.

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>>131429578
Read the thread, penis sergeant
>>131430021
You are not only judging or being vengeful which are God's jobs. But do you really think you can supercede what you just said? Woman brought all death and all sin. He probably won't let you do that. That's the whole reason He made us gay you idiot. If you can make a time machine and kill us all and stop her from taking the serpent's dick. Then we all win. You can't. Christ paid for all this already

>>131406725
ye

>>131430349
>Read the thread, penis sergeant
Aren't you the fag? Enjoy AIDS and disappointing your parents by not birthing children with a female. Worse yet, fooling yourself into thinking you're a fag by raising the child your partner made with a surrogate female.

>>131430181
Where did I claim that these men were exclusively homosexual?

>>131430181
Homosexual is only a 150 year old word coined by Freud. I use Bible. If you want to talk historical figures like David and Jonathan. The centurion. The born eunuchs. Ruth and naomi. Regular eunuchs. Alexander. The ethiopian. Go ahead. But you are anachronistic. Half a fag. Love scat porn. And are a hypocrite who has no clue why he hates himself so this is now our problem. I can say i dont love my life. But i also dont make anybody else's fucking miserable. You simultaneously bitch about females. And then go doing what everybody else does. You aint shit

>>131430512
See: >>131422293
In response to: >>131408654
Faggot means homosexual. Homosexual: (of a person) sexually attracted to people of one's own sex.

literally the one thing humans gotta do to continue is reproduce

they fail at our most basic function, so yes.

>>131430539
I remember you, you're the guy who has some degenerative brain disease. How you holdin' up, buddy? Still can't string a coherent sentence, I see?

>>131430498
All lies. Moving on now. Enjoy clasping strings in front of your faceless free mason board. Truvada nigger. All the rest you sound like an illiterate witch with a crystal ball. The opposite of everything said by right wingers about kikes. Or about anything. Is always the truth. You love kikes. You hate men and dick. Good job

>>131430660
>lies
>mental retardation
>broken record superiority complex
Trump is the antichrist

>>131406725
I think any man can turn gay if he loses his self-confidence and pride.

It's a dominance thing, if a beta is unable to dominate, he might break and let others dominate him, even sexually.

I haven't figured it out completely, but I'd say YES, it's a mental illness.

>>131413178
Yeah because anonymous posters on the internet are an accurate representation of a population.

/pol/ can never into science.

>>131421680
>>131422259

couple questions if you don't mind.

Yall seem like pretty regular gays, a category of person that's always confused me. Was there any childhood abuse? That would simplify this a lot.

What is it like to be attracted to someone for you? Can you achieve an erection watching gay and straight porn? Which do you use more often, and which do you fantasize about? Do you think about the actual sexual act or the acceptance of sleeping with somebody? Is it the same for men and women or different?

As someone who admits to being attracted to women, I'm assuming you feel the same hormonal response to a picture or thought of a pretty woman, lets call it arousal. Is that response the same when you think about getting fucked in the ass or about sodomizing another man? When I think of these I have an aversion, partly made up of my physical disgust at the actions and partly made of my social distaste for fags. I suppose if you got used to gay sex and you didn't have anything going for you with heterosexuality both of these aversions would be removed, and one could get accustomed to gay images to the point of arousal.

Or is it different? You claim to be bi, what's it like? Is it the same attraction? Is it about the sex? The group identity? People giving a shit about you for any reason at all?

>>131411959
Living reproducing antifag antinigger weapon.
Continue.

>>131430761
Grab em. That is my response to his first picture. Hello Lot's daughters. Let's hand you over to fags. Why are these people reproducing without surrogacies again? Why is SF still here? Where are these modern words he's using in there? Meh nobody cares women make my test levels go higher. Estrogen increases pussy size. I mean dick size

>>131407096
How would they be non viable though?
Their are very attractive god-tier genetic fags out there

>>131406725
Our evolutionary purpose is to repopulate with SUITABLE PARTNERS. THE OPPOSITE SEX. If not a mental illness, it's definitely got something to do with a fucked brain.

>>131431023
>disagrees
>repeats with same words
Learn what are help meets who become wives and why that happened. Marriage doesnt exist in heaven and neither do vaginas. It's a temporary fix for your own corruption. I got shit to do this is the world's oldest straw man and topic. Serpent seed. That is all

>>131406881
>>131418993
Are these shills or retards? I can't tell.

It's a perversion perpetuated by mainstream media.

>>131430662
>>131430720
How's the medication working? For any anons curious, this anon has some rare brain disease that slowly eats away at his faculties. It's depressing, really.

>>131431266
>repeats lies again
Read my first post in here. Stop showing me your labia in a mirror

>>131428354
I like women's personalities, but their bodies do absolutely nothing for me. And yet curiously enough the thought of gay sex grosses me out despite the fact that I'm physically attracted to men.

>>131406725
I think it's more a genetical thing.

>>131406725
It's an illness of a society that has it too easy for its own good.

>>131431465
Nothing is new under the sun

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>>131430349
>not only judging or being vengeful which are God's jobs
>you idiot
Who are you to judge whether or not I am intelligent. Isn't that "God's jobs"?

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>>131406725
Yes. How else would ignoring the natural biological urge to reproduce be explained

>>131406811
It's a fetish. Defending it as a lifestyle is an exaggeration.

>>131431315
So the meds aren't working that well. Tell your mother I said hi. She must be so disappointed in her son right now.

>>131431509
New? I didn't mean that. It can happen to any society that embraces decadence.

>>131431582
Im not trying to delete pussified pussy munchers. Was a slight lapse. Brought on by your own perhaps. Was nice not arguing about fuck all in here though. As always. I win you lose you're all nags except for the based undefiled members of the 144,000 in here? Ever touched a vagina? Oops you're disqualified
>i listened to people though!
There's your problem. Ciao

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This is what I don't understand about people who are really anti-gay, they just throw science out the window.

I am gay, but I reject liberal gays. The LGBTQ movement is a cancer on the blight of decent homosexuals and I'll never bow to Islam the way some liberal gays have done.

At the same time you have people on this board rejecting science at the same rate that these liberal progressives do. "Hurr durr there are millions of genders." But on the opposite end you hear "hurr durr all gays are child molester or a large population of them are" when in reality the population of gays as child molesters isn't any higher than the population of heterosexual child molesters when you account for difference in population.

TLDR: some of you guys are as stupid and biased as the opposition that you fight.

>>131431640
>decent
>homosexuals

Pick one.

>>131431829
Oh wow you sure got me with your "logical" ad hominem argument. No wonder you win all the debates anon.

>>131431763
Troll. Waste of oxygen. Everything you say is a reflection on yourself. Been hearing shit like this my whole life. I fear only God. You have no arguments on this. You try and box people in and feel better by taking diarrhea shits on people's faces. Go bake me a pie
>>131431774
It's ok Aristotle nobody comes here for Biblical messages only frogs

>>131431640
>But on the opposite end you hear "hurr durr all gays are child molester or a large population of the mare" when in reality the population of gays as child molesters isn't any higher than the population of heterosexual child molesters when you account for difference in population.

Sam Hyde disagrees.

>>131431698
nope.
http://www.ssahope.com/causes_and_cures.html

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>>131406725
No.

A mental illness is something which is inherently personally destructive or harmful to a person. Wanting dicks in your body in itself isn't harmful or else being a heterosexual woman would be a mental illness. For this same reason it's not harmful because of sexual diseases since they're secondary and not exclusive to the proposed mental illness.

Transgenderism is a mental illness because the mental state itself is the state of the brain telling itself that its body is wrong and should be altered. This is directly telling a person to mutilate their bodies based on their mental condition.

>>131431962
>Go bake me a pie
If it has your meds in it.

>>131418651
>>131422293 #

>>131432020
Hello pink swastika and haavara agreement. Hello symbolism of bundled sticks

>>131432072
No just your period blood

>>131431956
You know you want little Timmy's ass.

>>131431976
There are about 747,408 sex offenders in the US out of a population of 318.9 million, which is .23%. So even if we take the low estimate of total homosexuals being 1% then that is (.23%*(1/3))/1% = 7.8% of all homosexuals being pedophiles at the very most. If you plug in total homosexuals representing 3% of the population you get 2.6% being pedophiles. So basically lots of pedophiles are gay, but since they're so rare they don't represent much of the total gay population.

>what is adjusting for population. Hurr math is hard.

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Ha! I knew it! >>131407351

>>131412950
>>131413038
>>131413065
My faith in humanity is lost

Ok I believe you now, homosex is bad and clearly linked to pedophilia

>>131418223
I look gay pride
....
Normal behaviours ?
....
No.
...
Sane behaviours ?
...
No.

Period.
Sick degenerates.

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Is liking traps a mental illness?

>>131432164
>>131432038
Kiss of putin youtube video. Trump and epstein. Milo. Are you right wing? You'll diddle and lie and try and cover up. I see right through you. God does too

>>131407351
see
>>131432205

>>131432164
Oh god you got me again XD

>>131432038
Funny you should say that.

>>131432142
So no meds.

>>131432347
Hello flag switcher. We have IDs you fucking moron

As long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, I don't care what other people do with their sex lives.

>>131406725
Probably, but being Canadian definitely is.

>>131432258
Pedo in denial.
Not only illness, but criminal potential.
Straight to asylum.

>>131432325
Oh , but you can't fool me sunshine.

>>131432357
There never were. Only your bowing to the inferior gender. I hope you find a nice pair of high heel shoes when you come up for breath from your cancer clams
>dominating women
>enjoyable or difficult or masculine
Enjoying pussy stink and slime slots is a mental illness. Bye. Enjoy your fat neckbearded dying in a gutter like Ayn Rand. Fucking bitch

>>131422293
None of those were strictly homosexuals though-

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>>131406725

A genetic malfunction

>>131432538
Did you seriously switch your flag to try to literally false flag?

Jeez, you're so smart. Its not as if we have IDs or anything that could give your identity away.

I'm guessing you probably come from a country where the average skin color isn't white?

>>131432670
Splitting hairs. All you know is spliting things. Like tuna flaps. Cant argue worth shit. Hetero doesnt exist. And homo as a term doesnt either. At least speaking to anything true. All men are HALVES of fags. Done and done

>>131432217
>I let propaganda in the form of fringe fetish forums from the deep web shape my opinion about an entire group of people
If I showed you some straight scat porn, would you think all straights are scat fetishists? I swear for how much /pol/ claims to be "enlightened" you people are sheep.

>>131432049
Anal tears, disgusting anal bacteria entering in urethra, prolapse, end of your lineage and life but sodomy is not harmful..youre an imbecile. Get connected to the logos and come back with real thought.

>>131432205
Right , how about this : take away all the laws and repercussions for your actions. Then , supply each and every last faggot with as many kids as he want.

Then take the census again.

>>131432824
That's not sodomy. Fucking grab ems is. Half of "heteros" have anal. Women's assholes do that too. Vaginas have three times more FUNGUS or smegma and then piss on ya

>>131432205
Source on sex offenders. Break it down by sex and age. How many are same-sex. At the very most, those are bisexual child predators, as they may not be exclusively homosexual. Rates are higher than normal.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/pessimism-about-pedophilia
Even the link above plays the semantics game. Using their logic, one cannot be a attracted to age and sex at the same time. But that is nonsense, as the two coincide.
"Consensus now exists that pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation, not something that develops in someone who is homosexual or heterosexual. Some people with pedophilic urges are also attracted to adults, and may act only on the latter urges. Because people with pedophilic urges tend to be attracted to children of a particular gender, they are sometimes described in the literature as heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual pedophiles. Roughly 9% to 40% of pedophiles are homosexual in their orientation toward children — but that is not the same as saying they are homosexual. Homosexual adults are no more likely than heterosexuals to abuse children."
If you are attracted to kids, you are a pedophile. If you are attracted to the same sex, you are homosexual. One does not negate the other, by definition. Gays are disproportionately represented. The only rebuttal is a semantic fallacy.

>>131418223
So pedophiles aren't mentally I'll is wat you sayin?

>>131432640
So yes meds

text

>>131406725
Mental illness is a matter of somewhat arbitrary definitions, so it depends whom you ask..

Practically irrelevant question.

Everyone is gay- Kurt Cobain

Dont worry, we understand. Uncle ben molested you when u were eight years old. Fuck you faggot >>131431791

>>131432916
Did you intentionally use a source that contradicts you?

>Consensus now exists that pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation, not something that develops in someone who is homosexual or heterosexual. Some people with pedophilic urges are also attracted to adults, and may act only on the latter urges. Because people with pedophilic urges tend to be attracted to children of a particular gender, they are sometimes described in the literature as heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual pedophiles. Roughly 9% to 40% of pedophiles are homosexual in their orientation toward children — but that is not the same as saying they are homosexual. Homosexual adults are no more likely than heterosexuals to abuse children.

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>>131432770
Fuck off fag, it's a mental illness or a genetic defect, either way it shouldn't be

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>>131432271
>I see right through you. God does too

LMFAO , you're the least qualified to talk about God.

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>>131432916
I dont see many democrats diddling. Homos like their own gender. Not dogs. Not kids. Not scat. Not gay porn like you. Right wingers are ALWAYS the ones caught. Always. There is a study for everything. You hate your own gender. Youre a failure. Women have no place in spirituality. You fucked up. And you continue to do so and to shift the blame. Enjoy your alimony. Is it a popular opinion like yours? Lessening with the days? It's automatically wrong. You are period pilled. The female reproductive system looks like a satanic pentagram. Ours dont. Fuck off and there's a little taste of what you dish

>>131433120
>I can't win with science...I'll just call them names on the internet! That'll show them.

>>131432448
Really? i didn't know that.

>>131432952
>>131433151
>>131433196
You are possessed

>>131433290
Ok sheep dog. You viper. You faceless coward who fails at everything he attempts. You were found out. Any time a kike puts a gay flag he is false flagging. You are only hurting your "cause"

>>131432733
The average nigger is above the average faggot. Try again.

Who cares about IQ when you're a kid-toucher.

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>>131433324
At least I'm not a faggot

>>131433432
Just a vagisil canesten estrogen overdosing dirty defiled nasty clammosexual dumpster cock sucker

>>131433324
I might just be.

Lmao u funny >>131418223

>>131433427
>Source: my ass

Lol CNN has better sources than you. That's sad mein friend.

>>131433149
Hence the rebuttal. Which you glossed over and choose not to respond to. I will repost it: If you are attracted to kids, you are a pedophile. If you are attracted to the same sex, you are homosexual. One does not negate the other, by definition.
Using the logic you support, if one is attracted to children, then one cannot be heterosexual, as well.
In reality, pedophilia is not concerned with the sex of the victim, but the age. Homosexuality is concerned with the sex of the victim.
Such a thing as a homosexual child predator exists. More likely, they are bisexual child predators.

>>131433217
>fiction of filth makes it okay
hmmmmm

>>131433415
You do know that you can't be a real Christian and be gay at the same time , right?

>>131433521
Wow, you suck your boyfriend's dick with that mouth. Kys fag, before AIDS does the job

>>131433532
Good. You will be punished. We are ALL S.I.N. positive. Remember that. Before you go lying and freaking out. You are all positive for SIN. And guess who made it. A copy of your cucked relationships. And not adam and steve. Chickens and eggs. But with you women, you are hens blaming your own progeny

>>131433563
I glossed over it because you're cherry picking only the facts that you want out of the report while ignoring the conclusions drawn from the data that I quoted.

>hurrr only pay attention the parts that I wan you to, don't pay attention the parts that say I'm wrong.

God its like arguing with toddlers. Do you not know how peer reviewed journals work?

>>131433217
Homos are humans, they are susceptible to beastility and pedophillia in their like everyone else.

Homos are not infallible!

>>131433549
I know. Okay? no use denying it.

>>131433625
Fiction underneath. Your filth. Corrected on top. Apply it to all your posts and any others not like mine
>>131433677
Truvada. Then read all the vagina diseases. Oops truvada doesnt work on vag. Oops. The artificial methods of procreation now only work on males. Oops im more like Ronaldo than are you. I can easily tell you to die. I try not to do that. You are my spiritual and corporeal inferior

>>131432913
Dummy. Look at reality not skewed ideology for thought.
It is sodomy. No half of everyone has anal sex recognizing that porn is not real but contrived, poo comes out of a one way unclean WASTE process.
Hurrpy derpy... Duh, vaginas are gross. You have a trauma that broke you from nature. You wont admit it but your aberrant thinking betrays soul wounds.

>>131433765
>from the data that I quoted.
>no source
Not an argument.
>I glossed over it
Arguing in bad faith by not addressing the response.
>cherry-picking
Source it wrong, then. Besides semantic arguments redefining things when you disagree with them.
>Do you not know how peer reviewed journals work?
>still no citation
>proven wrong
>backpeddle twice as hard
The only rebuttal is redefinition, which I just debunked. Then you admitted to skipping over it because you cannot argue my point. Start arguing anytime, m8.

>>131433721
Hope you're right and God is real.

>>131433917
No man can interpret God's natural laws. God knows me on the inside. Image and likeness. Not you

>>131406725
No doubt about it. Fags are prominent in the USA for a reason.

>>131434036
>No man can interpret God laws
>God knows me
>not you

Que?

>>131433997
I know He's real and I guess you will be judged for confirming you are possessed. Turn to Christ
>>131434036
Also poop doesnt store that low. We have two sphincters and a g spot. Vagina has only a bladder and nothing else. Except the two sphincters. But theyre so fat and selfish it wont work for you. Ive never noticed a problem. In fact you've never came until from ass

>>131433985
I quoted from the journal of the guy that I was responding to, idiot.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/pessimism-about-pedophilia

Its clear you have no idea what you're talking about. You can find word for word the section that I quoted. And yes it is cherry picking to say pay attention to these numbers and the conclusions that I've drawn from them and not the conclusions that the researchers themselves have reached, because yeah, you an anonymous poster on the internet are more qualified to tell what the numbers mean than the actual people conducting the research.

Good! Now go to church and give ur soul to yisus christ and fuck a pussy. >>131433252

>>131434218
>I know He's real

Well i don't.

>>131434201
You can see into people's souls and say why they act and from which hurt it is. Just like your freudian sht. Just like your lack of knowledge of animals that resemble me or anybody or say we are all animals. Then when you lose this you bring in animals raping or eating kids or whatever. Im not an animal. You are not God. You talk out of your ass

>>131434227
The conclusion that was reached is fallacious. One can be homosexual and a pedophile at the same time.
>appealing to authority
>they said so, stop questioning it, leave critical thinking to the experts
The data suggests otherwise. You cannot construct a rebuttal. You have one more time. Here is the argument again: http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/pessimism-about-pedophilia
Even the link above plays the semantics game. Using their logic, one cannot be a attracted to age and sex at the same time. But that is nonsense, as the two coincide.
"Consensus now exists that pedophilia is a distinct sexual orientation, not something that develops in someone who is homosexual or heterosexual. Some people with pedophilic urges are also attracted to adults, and may act only on the latter urges. Because people with pedophilic urges tend to be attracted to children of a particular gender, they are sometimes described in the literature as heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual pedophiles. Roughly 9% to 40% of pedophiles are homosexual in their orientation toward children — but that is not the same as saying they are homosexual. Homosexual adults are no more likely than heterosexuals to abuse children."
If you are attracted to kids, you are a pedophile. If you are attracted to the same sex, you are homosexual. One does not negate the other, by definition. Gays are disproportionately represented. The only rebuttal is a semantic fallacy.