WHAT DID THE SUPREME COURT MEAN BY THIS?????

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>>131393949

>>131393949
It means the travel ban is back.

Gorsuch: "Remove Kebab."

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>>131393949
See you in October.

>>131393981

i think since there are a number of lawsuits, where green card holders were barred from entry in the mixup, they are allowing the stay to be in effect until they review it. everything else can be implemented.

>>131393949
the butthurt on this will be beautiful

thank you cheesus

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>>131394286
So we get a huge liberal salt day???

>foreign muslims with zero relations to the US are banned
THANK YOU BASED SUPREME COURT

>>131393949
>>131393981

"MUDSLIMES, STAY THE FUCK OUT!"

Also, "Canada is a shit too."

>>131394089

This.

Muslims BTFO
Muhammed BTFO
Goats BTFO
Hawaii BTFO
Washington State BTFO
Democrats BTFO

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I'M NOT TIRED OF WINNING YET LADS

they mean the powers that the constitution expressly gives to the president are powers given expressly to the president

>>131394402

WA state here.

Some of us are not idiots.

>>131394370
And then some.


Looks like I'll need a truck to move all the delicious salt.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>131393949
It means Trump is going to be winning so fucking hard that he has to go on Twitter tirades to pull the narrative away from how much he is winning.

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It means muzzies have been BTFO... unless Uncle mo is a citizen.

>>131394628

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KquFZYi6L0

>>131394740

>does being a refugee make you american?

jesus fucking christ.

>>131393949
why is this not the most active thread at the moment?

This news is yuge!

btfo but leave the falafel

>>131394779

honestly I am OK with muslims who actually want to assimilate to western culture. Uncle Mo is somewhat more likely to just work at the CITGO and settle down.

Does anyone know the number of justices needed to issue this sort of order? It could be indicative of how BTFO the left is going to be when the court decides the full case later in the year.

>>131393949
If university applications are considered "Bona Fide reason" for being in the US, then what's to stop these liberal universities from only accepting foreigners because fuck Drumpf?

>>131395084

5 justices supported this stay. One more than needed.

Leftists 100% will receive permanent BTFO status in October and Trump will be free to ban whomever he pleases

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>>131394204

KILL YOURSELF

>>131394924
I presume he's referring to refugees granted political asylum by the US which is much smaller than the number of "refugees" you hear about

>>131395084

All of them agreed. Dissenters would be listed. This is probably going to be 9-0 or 8-1 sotamayor dissenting because shes an idiot

>>131395134
federal funding being cut.

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>>131393949
Libtards permanently BTFO

>>131393949
>No you can't ban me, I actually have a family member in the US
>Alright what's your last name
>Muhammed

>>131395134
Relatives or gtfo. Europe, UK, Mexishit and Cuckanada too.

>>131395134
Many universities accept state/federal grants and need to take in a certain amount of US/state local students. Besides universities already take in shit tons of rich Chinese students so they can milk them for money

>>131395240
We all know that would never happen though.

>>131395530
why wouldn't it trump can influence it and they have quotas for local students to qualify for the funding m8

>>131394101
Underrated

>>131395530
Trump is perfectly willing to cut funding.

>>131393949
It means nothing. The travel ban most likely won't be enforced.

Good job, America!
Maybe I can forgive you for bombing us.
- Nagasaki

>>131395791
What ever you have to tell yourself m8

>>131393949
Huge improvement, and hopefully it leads to those traitorous federal judges who blocked the ban being replaced. But I don't like allowing their relatives in just because they're related, if they want to see each other so badly they can do it in their goatfucker country, not here.

>>131395239

2-7. RBG has a rep for being batshit to keep up too. I'd bet money she's going to shit out some impassioned plea to sweeping emotional principals that has almost nothing to do with the Law.

>>131395791
YOU NEED TO GO BACK

put them all on Greyhound buses and drive them back to the middle east.

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>>131393949
Let the salt flow

>>131396011
MAKE EM FUCKING SWIM BACK

>>131396011
Cross the ocean in a bus? They'd all drown!

>>131395024
That's how it starts. Wait until they are a higher percentage of the popularion, then you get Europe

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Post salt

>>131396352
LIKE I WANT TO GO TO YOUR SHIT HOLES

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH GASP HAHAHAHAHAH

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>>131395266
This, unforunately.

Otherwise, Mudslines fucking btfo, liberal courts btfo, san francisco fag judges btfo. Maga

>>131393949
it means unless proven otherwise the president has the right to initiate any travel ban or immigration policy regarding non americans. Good luck trying to prove otherwise. Precedent since the founding of our country as well as past islamic immigration bans on the books.

>>131396208
exactly

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>131396352
lel, why the fuck would we do that?

>>131393949
It means (((You))) have to go back.

>>131396352
>he thinks countries are giving to give up all American tourism just to spite Drumpf

>>131396952
>plaque on the statue of liberty trumps the constitution now

Wew lad

>>131395791
#NotYourPresident?
>#NotYourCountryEither faggot

>>131395084
Holly shit. It was unanimous. You know Dems are fucked when Ginsburg sides against them.

>>131396588
And the banning of Japanese immigration during WW2, etc

>>131397204
Someone had to pay for that guys computer. because you know he didn't pay for it himself.

>>131397112
seriously

>haha, rest of the world, how about you shoot yourself in the foot to ideologically support us?

how about you go and fuck yourself you slimy libshit? my country will do whatever is in its best interest. hurting our own economy to placate a political movement that isn't even in fucking power does definitely not belong among those things.

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>>131394402

>>131396952
>muh french statue

>>131397291
Of course it was. The president clearly has the authority I ban anyone at anytime.

>>131395020

Newfag detected

>>131394402
You leave goats out of this. I've had a goat burger before and that shit was amazing.

So, when they get to customs and are asked the purpose for their visit and they say "None", they are sent back?

but if they say "Visiting my cousin", or "attending a business meeting" you have to let them through?

>>131394740
>show up in a christian nation with fake identity
>utter the word "asylum"
>spend the rest of your life taken care of by tax payer money

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>>131393949

>>131395024
>hardworking 3rd world person comes to america and works hard and has a family
>the kids go to (((school))) and learn to hate white men, america, and radicalize because that's what the fucking education teaches them
literally why all the fucking 2nd generations of these immigrants decide to go nuts. our schools teach them to hate america and especially white men


this is why immigration not only is bad cause they're low iq retards, but the kikes control education so their kids are radicals

>>131397670
Well yes. That law is very plain to read, had precedent, and should have never been blocked by the lower courts. Sometimes I fear "muh feels" overrides law

>>131397876
Proof will obviously be required.

>>131397876
>but if they say "Visiting my cousin", or "attending a business meeting" you have to let them through?

That's not how it works, you have to provide some proof.

>>131397291
The law is pretty black and white on the issue. I don't have the exact wording but the president pretty much has full authority to ban anyone he wants. The 9th circuit courts were way out of line for over turning it, like they should lose their jobs.

>>131397876
Burden of proof is on them.

They'd have to show their cousins names, they'd call them up, confirm their family, yadda yadda.

It's probably enough of a roadblock that the government will just constantly say "nah this isn't legitimate proof, go back"

Why do people on the left AND /pol/ call it a Muslim ban? it is just six countries. Pakis, Saudis, Iraqis, Chechens, every other Muslims is allowed.

>>131396952
>some shit that kike wrote on a statute
wow its nothing

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>>131395791
>Supreme Court is powerless and their rulings mean nothing

>>131396952
>>131397204
I never understood why people try to use this as an argument
>our decision making process in 2017 should be based on a sonnet created by a woman from 1883

>>131398405
because they'll use whatever fits their narrative.
don't expect any logic from them, they do not give a single shit about it. they'll discard rules based on the fact that they are old and "it's 2017" and the very next moment they'll pull up some quote from around the same time.

the left has never given a single shit about coherence or the moral high ground. they only pretend to do so every now and then to ensure that the right keeps trying to stick to it

>>131397204
>plaque on the statue of liberty trumps the constitution now
Yeah, a plaque that was placed there by a fucking kike whore in like the 60ies or some such bullshit

>>131396952
>South Carolina
I want to find out where this faggot lives and lynch him.

>>131398302
Trump fucked up and called for a ban on Muslims during the campaign, which is actually illegal. The travel ban doesn't use the word "Muslim" so it's 100% legal, but everyone knows what he means. Christians from those countries pose no threat to us and everyone knows it.

>>131398405
You just don't understand these people. In spite of their apparent belief that all cultures and societies are equal, they believe that their way of life is not a culture, but the default mode of human existence, and that access to their society by outsiders, by extension, is a fundamental human right. Most of these types do not actually hate white people, although their actions might lead you to believe so, rather, they are ethnocentric to the point of almost being white supremacists themselves. These are people that believe that the U.S.A (and the "west" in general) does indeed owe every man woman and child of the world something; access to their idea of a "default" human life, that is, a "western" life, complete with all the rights and benefits that go along with living in these societies.

>>131395134
The education bubble.

If they accept any more sub-prime students the bubble will burst and much of higher education will close up.

>>131399094
This is nicely put ausbro, exactly how i see them as well.

>>131399094
This so god damn much.

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wew

>>131395024
And what about their children? Remember Pulse

>>131399321
Yea, but these people have shown they are willing to crash the economy, culture and country in furtherance of thier ideology.

>>131399345
>>131399631
Its the same shit as "human rights" and ideas about the necessity for secular laws, or democracy. Creations of thousands of years of European, and later American culture that modern Europeans and Americans are so used to that they are literally unable to consider them as anything but the default mode of existence for a human being.
A man has no rights in nature, he secures them by participation in a society that agrees to afford him rights and to protect them on the condition of his adherence to that society's rules. A state's only obligation as a political entity is to its citizens; those who participate in this system. At least, that's how it is supposed to work in theory.
And I have a degree in one of the leftiest sounding fields there is.

>>131399094
>they believe that their way of life is not a culture, but the default mode of human existence

which explains pretty well why they think that white countries have no culture

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>>131394763
this
get them worked up over his twitter feed nice and early so he can MAGA all day long.
>AWOO

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>>131399006

>a ban on Muslims during the campaign, which is actually illegal

Incorrect. All existing SCOTUS case-law is absolutely clear in affirming, over and over again, that (1) there is no Constitutionally-protected "right" for non-citizens to enter the United States, that (2) Constitutional protections are not guaranteed to people who are not lawfully admitted into the United States, and that therefore (3) the political branches of government, not Courts, enjoy *ABSOLUTE* discretion when deciding who they do or do not admit to the United States, *UNLESS* the rights of a person who has been admitted are somehow implicated. Denial of entry/deportation of non-admitted aliens is not even understood to be "punishment" such that any kind of due process is even implicated, let alone some kind of nebulous right to not be discriminated against.

There is absolutely nothing in any of the Constitutional jurisprudence pertaining to immigration which suggests that a ban on entry for Muslims or any other kind of group. The Chinese Exclusion cases have been affirmed as binding law as recently as 2016.

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>travel ban somehow is against the first amendment
What did he mean by this?

>>131400813

>*that a ban on entry for Muslims or any other kind of group is unconstitutional.

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>>131394402
>Hawaii BTFO

WHAT?

>>131400834
Everything is speech to these people. Including immigration.

>>131400813
Wouldn't it fall under the category or religious discrimination though? I thought that was the entire basis of the 9th circuit being faggots about it.

>>131393949

holy shit. based scotus

>>131395024
The trouble is they never "intergrate"
They either are violent apes that vote left-wing, or "intergrated" anti-white SJW's that vote left wing
There is hardly any inbetween

>>131397981
>>hardworking 3rd world person comes to america and works hard and has a family
>>the kids go to (((school))) and learn to hate white men, america, and radicalize

fuck fuck fuck you are right fuck.

>>131400278

yes I stand corrected and I will return after some reflection.

>>131401100
"Free speech" can be expressed and "religious discrimination" can be fought against, but they in no way overrule or circumscribe national security.

>>131401473

to clarify: I had not considered that since the 1970s or so, Mo's kids have been taught to hate the country that took in their parents.

>>131401100
>But immigration proceedings are matters of administrative law, not criminal law. (As a result, the consequence of violating your immigration status is not jail but deportation.) And Congress has nearly full authority to regulate immigration without interference from the courts. Because immigration is considered a matter of national security and foreign policy, the Supreme Court has long held that immigration law is largely immune from judicial review. Congress can make rules for immigrants that would be unacceptable if applied to citizens.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2001/09/do_noncitizens_have_constitutional_rights.html

>>131401648

https://archive.is/Tt5MB

>>131401100
Are the rights in the constitution somehow universal rather than something afforded by the government and society of the United States of America to its citizens? I'm not entitled to an AR-15 just because it says so in the US constitution, I'm not a citizen.

>>131401648
Then what in the hell was the 9th circuit courts reasoning?

>>131401844
Muh feelings

>>131401844
The 9th Circuit is the most liberal, and the most often overruled, court in the US. Their reasoning was "muh Trump".

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>>131401844
>9th circuit
>reasoning

>>131401917
this
>>131401937
and this

>>131402025
Memes aside they were making establishment clause violations arguing that blocking Muslim students violated the 1st amendment rights of the universities, not the muslims themselves

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#NOTMYSCOTUS

>>131393981
What legal status does having someone with somewhat related genetics being a US citizen have? What was the point of this?

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>that one retard who didn't get the correct memo

>>131402170
Considering that universities are trying to ban free speech, I can't really understand their reasoning.

>>131401100

No. Un-admitted aliens do not have Constitutional rights that the United States has an obligation not to infringe on, period. If aliens are given any kind of entitlement to some treatment or other, it is via statute or executive authority, *not* via Constitutional guarantee.

Constitutional amendments are not universally-applicable "the government shall not do X to anyone, ever" commandments. They are rights which are understood to be vested in *the People of the United States of America*. A foreigner who we haven't let in yet simply does not have first-amendment, or any other amendment, rights.

The nutty ninth wrote a bunch of bullshit about non-discrimination, but the actual tangentially-related legal basis for their holding was the idea that the plaintiffs, who *were* all either citizens or legal residents, were being deprived in some unconstitutional way by not being able to bring in who they wanted.

>>131395024
i used to be this way until i realized it's just a slippery slope. The world would be better with physical ethnostates but a shared marketplace of ideas re: scientific/technological/medical advancements

t. White Separatist

>>131402666
Democrats claiming another "moral victory" because they lost.

It's salty tears.

>>131398580
>>131399094
that has always baffled me how they like to pick and choose which people/stances from the past are the end all be all
>the founding fathers? you mean oppressive BIGOTS?
>um sweetie did you forget about LADY LIBERTY? a sonnet from 134 years ago thats inscribed on her represents the entire country's view & is the law

>>131402466

Essentially, federal immigration statutes let citizens and legal residents bring members of their (generally, immediate) family over.

It's not relevant to any Constitutional question, but it *is* Federal law, so the Court will treat it as authoritative.

>>131401008
they're talking about the religious parts of the first

>>131400834
>implying non-citizens have 1st Amendment rights in the first place
These people are either completely devoid of critical thinking or are literal shills and I don't know which one is worse.

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w e w

>>131401100
Constitutional protections only apply to citizens.
We cannot deport or deny entry to legal muslim residents of this country, but there is nothing that stops the US government from explicitly banning entry of all non resident muslims.
They are not citizens therefore they do not have constitutional rights, they have human rights as acknowledged by international law, however free migration is not a human right

>>131404184
Feels: the argument

>>131404184
Who filmed that video again?

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>>131405449

>>131399094
Well put Aus

>>131397686

This guy gets it.

t. Guy who raises his own goats just for the meat.

>>131394615
Same. Turd Furgesson was literally paraded around my law school like a hero for resisting drumph. I was sickened by the mere presence of that gun grabbing moron.