/pol/ is this book worth reading?

Yes. Kind of underwhelming in the plot desu but the world is the real gem. Dune is a better redpilled book. Will to power, genetic superiority, and population control through religious myth building.

It's good fiction but don't neglect reading actual analysis of factual communism and all it's failed attempts

>>131384222
Pacing is slow as all hell but the premise and the world building is what is the most important thing to get out of this book.

If you had to ask
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>>131384586
This. Winston is kind of a retard.

Reminder that Orwell was a socialist

Yes and it shouldn't take you long either, so if you're a nonreader that should be a plus.

>>131384222
yes, absolutely

the movie is shit though

>>131384752
So?
Reading socialist literature wont turn you into Stalin

>>131384371
Found Dune hard to follow, am I just an idiot?

>>131384222
>>131384586
I think also the exploration of the post-modernist subversion of basic logic in the later chapters is really chilling and relevant, even if orwell took the cop-out of electromagnetic lobotomy.

Offtopic: Is Evola worth reading?

>>131384586
I felt it was too slow in the beginning, then as soon as he starts fucking Julia it becomes too fast

do you ask /pol/ if you should shit today too? fucking internet generation

>>131385073
I read a few pages and seem dull af. thats why im asking

>>131385173
The first 3 or 4 chapters are dull, but it does pick up brilliantly later on. Don't skip them though, remember every detail about the world that they build

>>131384222
meme book when it comes to writing
but i guess you should know it just because of how popular it is

I remember liking it, but the world as it is today is probably even more fucked up than that book.

>>131384222
Yes, i also highly, HIGHLY, recommend "A Brave New World" Honestly its much better the 1984, mostly because you can already see it happening with social media and the news.

>>131384723
>This. Winston is kind of a retard.
Socialism makes everyone retarded.

Also, stop using "this" as a complete sentence. It's double plus un-good.

>>131384222
its a prediction and a warning of the futere and alot of the predictions that where in the book came treu in the current year things like "hatespeech policies" and cia spying.

>>131384222
Brave New World is more relevant.

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>>131384222
>>131384371
FPBP

Animal Farm is good too, more engaging than 1984 imo.

>>131385525
1984 is more about jackboot overwelming goverment authority.

and brave new world is more about how media manipulation and pleasure can make people into willing slaves or useful idiots for the govement.

>>131385421
On the back of this, I was also recommended Farenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury.

>>131384723
he's not a retard at all

Why read it when you're living it?

>>131384371
I always heard Dune was about sucking muslim dick

>>131384222
Why would you read it when you can live it?

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>>131384222
BNW also a great read.

It details a degenerate American style society without the family and with free sex and drugs to replace long-term gratification. They literally take the blue pill to make reality go away.

Whereas George Orwell looks at the dangers posed by the soviet union and communism, Huxley looks at the dangers of unrestrained post-modern liberalism and American-style indulgence.

>>131384222
If your like babby-tier political analysis were everybody who disagree with the author is painted like a Cartoon villain who want totalitarianism for the sake of totalitarianism

>>131384222
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks03/0300011h.html

For all you /pol/acks, not just OP

Read these and his other essays instead, this is why Orwell is remembered. 1984 is shit meme in comparison, and basically is all ideas he had in essays, but written like garbage.

Of these 50 in the link I highly recommend
>Politics and the English Language(basically 1984)
>A Hanging
>Shooting an Elephant
>Revenge is Sour
>Some Thoughts on the Common Toad (praise kek)

All are great but these are my personal favorites. Enjoy yourselves.

t. /lit/

Quit posting this same shit thread everyday

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>>131386700
Stfu faggot

>>131384222
no it's shit no cute girls

>>131384222
Read it you lazy fuck or at least download the movie torrent like I did.

>>131385829
It's about a desert people who's religion has been seeded over generations to make them footsoldiers for the genetically perfect man bred by a secret society to conquer the universe. They're pawns.

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>>131384222

1984 is like the Grandaddy of dystopian fiction. Absolutely one of the best books ive ever read, you can even get a PDF of it free online to read on your pc or your phone, really no excuse not to read it when you can get it free. Also make sure AFTER youve read it to watch the film version with john hurt in it, its awesome.

pic related is my face when reading the book

>>131384222

It's honestly predicted Britains future, which is now present day

>>131384823
No, it can be kind of difficult since you're dropped into what feels like a well established world. Try it again and I bet you will have a much better go at it.

There's a contemporary dystopian novel called "Wool" by Hugh Howey, I'd recommend that as well

>>131384873
If you have a big brain... Don't bother if you're a dummy

Winston is the original NEO, he notices flaws in the matrix and tries to make sense of them.

>>131386970
Thanks m8, I'll give it a read. Going to recommend what's a criminally overlooked book as well. A Canticle for Leibowitz. A monk finds relics of the founder of their order in a post apocalyptic America. His discovery helps beatify their founder and kicks off a revitalization of human knowledge.

>>131384823
Yes Dune is hard to follow because Frank Herbert is an absolute shit writer.
His ideas and worlds are good but his prose itself is agony

>>131386110
A lot of people used to recommend the very early soviet era book "We" by yevgeny zamyatin as it's somewhat similar but viewed the soviet dystopia from within
Read it in English a long time ago but can't remember what happened, they had transparent buildings so everyone could watch everybody else jerk off though

>>131384485

any good ones you know of actual analysis?

changed my life

>>131384222
yeah, it's a good instruction manual of how a state should operate

>>131384752
so was Emma Goldman, doesn't mean they didn't drop some hardcore redpills on communism

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This is now a great books thread. Post great novels.

>>131384222
Yes. Remember "the proles will never revolt!"

>>131387996
The hardest redpill of the novel really. We're doomed to slavery by the apathy of the masses.

>>131386949
>It's honestly predicted Britains future, which is now present day

The funny thing is that with the police state and the Muslims, Britain turned out far worse than predicted. It's ended up less like living with your face under Big Brother's heel and more like wearing the rat cage, permanently

>>131384222
Brave new world is better.

>>131384222
Yes. Especially if you think Communism, National Socialism or any form of Fascism works. This book BTFO all those """"ideologies"'"".

>>131388259
And if you suggest that you remove the rat you go to a prison full of them

>>131388465
you forgot to change your flag

"One on Me" is a criminally overlooked book.

>>131388467
And when you finally snap and say "Do it to Julia!" you find out that they already did it to her too before you even said anything, but for some reason she and everybody else still blame you for it and for everything the rats did. And you turn on the TV and there's a 24/7 feed of a little drowned hamster on a beach somewhere and everybody is constantly reminding you that your face cage is full of hamsters even though you can very very clearly see they are rats because they've chewed off your eyelids

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>>131384222
There's no book that isn't worth reading.

>>131384752
Hitler was a socialist so fucking what? What matters if you must take it: is how to divide it and who gets it and what checks and balances there are.

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>>131384723
You miss the point. Read it again and then again and then think about things in your life. Read it every 2-3 years. You will get red pilled soon enough.
I remember when I first read 'the trial' by kafka I thought the main char was a weak fool - but I was wrong. Good literature like Orwell's or kafka or Dostoyevesky is always better than face value: there are multiple layers that can take years of thought to understand.

>>131388671
You forgot to change yours.

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>hasn't read 1984
>posts opinion on political matters

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>>131386938
>Grandaddy of dystopian fiction
Read "We" by Yevgeny Zamyatin