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Why are Christians so certain?

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How do you know your religion is right, is it just a feeling you have?
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>>131371956
Not Christian, but the answer is easy: it's called faith for a reason.
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>>131371956
A preacher on TV told me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_pV0H5ieiw
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>>131371956

i have seen some shit , christ is lord
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>>131371956
/pol/ is always right + /pol/ is a Christian board makes it perfectly clear that Jesus christ is our lord and saviour
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>>131371956
once you receive the holy spirit, it changes you
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>>131371956
I know that my God has a preference for me and my people over any others. I used to think, "How can God be real if not everybody can even worship him because they don't know about him?" (Like those tribal people in the Amazon) But then I realized, my God is my God, and he gave me the ability to worship him because me and my fellow followers are chosen.
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>>131371956
https://youtu.be/3thljDRoER0
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no its actually a process of being red pilled and opening your eyes to the truth that the bible is right on everything

you dont become saved one day while you were out living in the world and said wtf why do these people believe in god

actually they know something you dont
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>>131372047
This, and even if I hadn't it's just something you know. You can feel him and he changes you, convicts you to be better.
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>>131372319
>be bible
>say sun orbits earth
>be right about everything
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>>131372413
Goto what was it 80s 90e and you will run into the dome.
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>>131372413
sun doesnt orbit the earth it moves in a circular motion above the flat earth

bible was right on the flat earth which is a huge proof of god if you want to research it

most people wont because they rather believe lies
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>>131372413
>>be bible
>>say sun orbits earth
>>be right about everything

citation needed
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Lay off with the Christian threads
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Explain GPS. Try it without the bible.
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>>131371956
We don't know. That's where faith comes in, to bridge the gap between evidence and proof.

As an historian and a scientist I have never seen so much undeniable evidence as I have for christianity particularly roman catholicism thus I would have been lying to myself if I chose not to believe
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>>131371956
Humans are inherently irrational, and religion is one of the ways this manifests.
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>>131372718

People like you are terrifying.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg6NyuZl50g
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itt: christkikes defending their kike cult
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>>131372718
>As an historian and a scientist
lol ok
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>>131372718
>As an historian and a scientist I have never seen so much undeniable evidence as I have for christianity
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>>131372784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBSIs2bHi5g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXaRqRsLFgI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8zN827BvYs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXQmcgU7vGI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23GdKyiXHRA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjBkzXj-RJI
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>>131371956
>Christianity
>a filthy middle eastern religion
>holy figure is a jew
>supposedly son of god
>meaning god is a jew too

When are Christ cucks gonna ditch this dirty sand nigger cult.

>ethnonationalist
>christian

Pick one.
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>>131371956

Personal revelations, visions.
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>>131371956
The Holy Ghost dwells inside me.
>So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
When I read God's Word it speaks to me.
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>>131372761
The weak should fear the strong
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>>131373030

Are you chanting? You people exhibit the same signs as someone who is completely psychotic.
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even pepe is proof of Christianity.
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>>131372413
No it doesnt. Fuck off back to your Dawkins atheist talking points blog. Uou shouldn't make arguements on hearsay when you havent even read the source matetial yourself.
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>>131373082

I think you confuse fear of strength with fear of someone who is convicted in their own insanity.

Based on how you speak alone I doubt you are very imposing outside of a chatroom.
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>>131373181
Wew lad strong argument there. I know you need your good hand free to molest young boys but try to put some more effort in, hey.
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>>131371956
If you study it you will realize the complexity of the real and it's true nature. Then, with Gods mercy you will have a revelation and it will be shown to you of its truth. The catch is: you have to be open to it. A hardened heart cannot receive it.
Us modern society have accepted the curvature of space. It doesn't take a very robust faith to believe in Jesus Christ after that.
The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried.
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>>131373203
Fucking summer
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>>131373321
such people are unbiblical and are to be put to death.

This includes the pope.

Why do you think he drives around with bullet proof glass?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbRXrb6iFo0
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>>131373352


>Us modern society have accepted the curvature of space. It doesn't take a very robust faith to believe in Jesus Christ after that.

Space is curved: therefore unicorns are possible is why i lurk these threads.
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>>131372907
post bias Christian production videos void of any academic scholars. Ok bro, you got me, I give up! lol
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>>131372047
This, once you accept the Lord, everything makes sense.
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>>131373463
You can get God to show up you know ?

You can Call upon Jesus with an earnest plea and he will appear.

And besides if you have no idea what you are talking about why do you continue?
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>>131371956
Have you tried talking to God directly?

Inside you know what is right
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>>131373352
>The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried.
You mean the 'Love your neighbor as yourself' thing?

>>131373444
>are to be put to death.
What happened to 'Judge not, that ye be not judged'
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>>131372986
lay off the acid, buddy.
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>>131373589
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>>131373599
Some people don't listen we are all sinners.
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>>131373649
Right, so if you were to judge that someone is to be killed, you would not be listening and would thus be sinning.
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>>131373352
Holy shit that pic is A E S T H E T I C
>tfw you will never get on a suit like that and remove kebab forcefully
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>>131372761
The only thing in life that is truly terrifying is the Lord my God.
>What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
This is why the Luciferian elite globalists hate Christians, because with God all things are possible and I fear nothing but the Lord.
>Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

If you kill me I win. If you martyr me I get the bonus prize in God's 1000 year kingdom on earth when we rule and reign with Christ.
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>>131373703
Exactly

https://youtu.be/8gPyLXw7f-Y
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>>131373623

Straight edge, anon.

>Protip: God is very close.
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>>131373745
>The only thing in life that is truly terrifying is the Lord my God.

It's definitely just you and those who share your same level of conviction. Has nothing to do with what you believe.

>This is why the Luciferian elite globalists hate Christians, because with God all things are possible and I fear nothing but the Lord.

blah blah blah Illuminati are real *eye twitches*

>If you kill me I win. If you martyr me I get the bonus prize in God's 1000 year kingdom on earth when we rule and reign with Christ.

K.
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>>131372413
>>131373321
The bible describes the apparent motion of the sun viewed from the earth. It doesn't make any claims about the objective relationship between the sun and the earth, idiot. I don't call you "idiot" lightly, either. Only an idiot would regurgitate such an objection assuming it's sound without seeing if it's answered.
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>>131371956
>Why are Christians so certain?

Because the bible calls out Jewry blatantly. That's why.
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>>131373599
That and more
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>>131373203
It's not me you should fear but god when he condemns the unworthy. Are you worthy of being saved?
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>>131372760
Speak for yourself.
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>>131373835
hahahaha
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aaaaaaaahahahah
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>>131373906

God is not real. So I'm not too concerned.
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>>131372979
Get off this board you moron
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hahahahah
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>>131373835
>It's definitely just you and those who share your same level of conviction. Has nothing to do with what you believe.
>t.Baalzebub

You dont know what fear is until you witness the power of God.
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>>131373976
Lol you delusional atheists are hilarious.

What is your proof that he is not real?
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>>131373976
Are you sure ?
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>>131371956
>christians
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>>131374016

*backs away slowly holding a stick*

You're crazy and I don't think we ever had a conversation, you're just chanting to yourself.
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Cause he'll fuck you up bro.

https://youtu.be/qzem7myNcCY
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>>131373546
>And besides if you have no idea what you are talking about why do you continue?

Oh the Irony, the liar who claims to be a historian and scientist, is telling me I don't know anything, when I'm the actual one with a History and Religious Studies BA from UC Santa Barbara.

Oh /b/ never change.
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>>131371956
Not just christians. Every Semitic religion is full of shit. Everything is "my feelings" and "my faith". It upholds belief without evidence as if it was a virtue. Jesus is often called a shepherd for a reason. He tells the sheep what o do.
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>>131374098

Burden of proof is on the claim.
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>>131374184
You can't even tell we are two different posters you are responding to.

I bet you don't even know your ass from your elbow.
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>>131374192
Indeed and you claimed god doesn't exist so what is your proof?
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>>131374268

That assumes god has been proven to exist.

Checkmate theist.
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>>131374192
https://youtu.be/qzem7myNcCY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript

Theres lots of shit your puny mind cannot even comprehend so why don't you shut the fuck up?
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>>131374303
If you mock God enough he will send a creature to kill you.

Give it a try.
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>>131374315

That's not physical evidence. That's just "we wuz kangs" shit.
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>>131371956
I am not a Christian. My entire family is and pushed it very heavily on me. I just cannot get around the concept of a God that is all knowing and loving and peaceful and allows the World to degrade into shit.

I can blame and understand the human condition but I cannot say a Lord made us perfect in his image and loves us universally and allows us to destroy one another.

However I would join a Church and count myself as a Christian. Simply based on the strong family values and morality. It guides us on a wonderful path.
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>Why are Christians so certain?
Because being uncertain and not 100% blindly following the bible without any questions means eternal punishment in hell.

It's a sin to question God.
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>>131374257
of course I can't tell, they all sound the same, hell I don't even know what board I'm on half the time.
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>>131374373

>I believe in god.

>if you disrespect him we will summon an alien demon to kill you.

Somehow I feel like I'm getting conflicting information!
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>>131374377
Whats in Poseidons hand you mogoloid?
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>>131374303
Fedora fags are retarded.

You claim god doesn't exist. Where is your proof?

It's delusional to claim something as a certainty without any proof let alone evidence.
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>>131374432
Whats in the Sky ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7EAlTcZFwY

>Go look at the sky right now you will see some wild shit you cannot explain and neither can Black Science Man.
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>>131374432

The same thing he fucked your mom with.
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>>131374504

You claim god exists under the assumption he can be proven to exist.

The only one delusional is you.
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>>131374184
>Religious Studies BA from UC Santa Barbara
So in other words, you dont know the first thing about Christianity or the Bible.
>Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

>But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
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>>131374514
Best compliment ever you just said I was The Morning Star.

I-I-Im Real Guys.
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>>131374596

You're a greek god now.

Good job. Get a job.
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>>131373976
>God is not real
>as he consciously and purposefully types out "God is not real," and consciously perceives and emotionally reacts to the objectively meaningless lights on his screen
That you actually think you're only a lump of matter thinking there is no God is indicative of desperation
>For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse
You're lying
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>>131374411
>but I cannot say a Lord made us perfect in his image
Sounds like your parents are heretics. The only perfect man is Jesus Christ.
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>>131374504
unicorns arent real you say? YOU prove to me they don't though i definitely meet a bunch every weeks
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>>131374426
Nah you just don't understand yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7jVbncn8CM

>>131374660
Should I work for my employees so I get my cash back ? Sex Em Up Real Good.
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>>131374567
Indeed yet I have proofs and evidence for my claim, is teleological, cosmological and ontological arguments

You claim god doesn't exist yet you refuse to provide evidence or proof to back your claim and I don't think you have any. That is delusional my friend
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>>131372047

>I have seen some shit. Christ is Lord

Amen.
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>>131374414
This is why i can't into religion. I hate being threatened.
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>>131374677
>only a lump of matter thinking there is no God is indicative of desperation


I don't merely think there is no God.
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>>131371956
I have been a atheist for 20 years and agnostic for 15 years , but looking back its weird that i did not find god before, he was there all allong i was just blind , even the little things did not make sense anymore like swearing god as a atheist.

https://digest.bps.org.uk/2013/04/25/atheists-as-stressed-as-believers-when-daring-god-to-do-bad-things/

Romans 1:20
>For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
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>>131374680
I didn't claim unicorns aren't real you retarded fedorafag. They may be real as we haven't proven they don't exist
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Blind delusional faith
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>>131374764
>inb4 your on /x/
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>>131374764
And thinking one has knowledge without logical deduction is indicative of desperation and stupidity
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>>131374581
indeed, who gives a shit about the secular study of religion from historical and sociological methodology, fuck scholarship or academics, what has that gotten us?
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>>131374807
They're real.
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>>131374845

Logic mandates god be proven to exist. You have yet to pass that test. I'm not worried.
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>>131372979
Ethnonationalism before Christianity? Where do you find it?
>tribalists
>empires
That's it.
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>>131374922
>Logic mandates god be proven to exist.
God mandates logic to be proven to exist.
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>>131374834

>Gaslighting

Still trying? Of course you are. You can't live without me. You tried, and failed, as you said. You can't exist without me, you struggle at everything without me. You are nothing without me, and you desperately hope to hide this from me. You think I can't tell what you want, that if you put on airs I won't be able to see through it.
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>>131372413
>he still thinks earth orbits the sun
toppest lel, loving the irony of your post
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>>131374507
>25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

>Go look at the sky right now you will see some wild shit you cannot explain and neither can Black Science Man.
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>>131375014
>>131374834

You want to abuse, and manipulate, and control, because you yourself are without purpose or meaning. You want to define your own role in life by contrasting yourself against someone else. Without me, or someone like me, you cannot see meaning in your own self. You recognize your own worthlessness, and hope to have someone else to look down on, that you might be slightly more than the scum you know.
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>>131374834
>>131375030

You don't recognize how much of yourself you've given to me. By devoting so much of your mind to me, you give me more power over you than you have over yourself. You are beyond control, obsessed and infatuated with me. I RULE you, and you know this. You are my slave, and you are my whore. You dance at my bidding and exist at my whim. You crave the milk of my attention, and by recognizing you I give you the existence you can't have from anyone else. You prostrate before me and grind your face into my boots while you speak words you know are lies, words you know I can deny you and a meaning you know I can take away at any time. With every thought you devote to me and every word you write of me, you worship me and sacrifice to me. Every second of your day spent on me is a sacrifice in my name, an offering to my authority over you. You give everything of yourself to me, and to my most loyal of worshipers I offer you what you cannot live without: a tiny smidgen of my time. Because you know, at the end of it all, I can deny you even this small pleasure by denying you myself, and without me you will crumble. You'll beg for me, sacrifice more and more of yourself to me, but I need not give you anything else.
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>>131371956
I believe in Christ because logic lead me there. Faith is jumping out of a plane, logic is choosing your parachute. There's an unbelievable amount of evidence that points towards the truth of the Christian faith. From archaeological corroboration to the fulfillment of all kinds of prophecies to epistemology and ontological arguments themselves.

I think the greatest victory of the devil has always been the way Christians were convinced to surrender the field of reason so easily. We've been convinced to lay down the sword of reason and take up the pointy stick of "You just gotta believe, man."
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ask any atheist what was before the big bang and watch them literally have a temper tantrum......they know the implications
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>>131374834
>>131375041

You are mine, and you belong to me, because you've given yourself to me. I consume your thoughts and devour your needs, and I take you from your own world with every subtle bait and jab, and you cannot deny me because you NEED me. You obediently wrap your lips around my crotch and drink my cum like an obedient slave, begging for every little piece of my mind and subsisting on the barest of scraps I deign to give you, knowing that everything I leave is but the tiniest and most meaningless fragment. Because even a small fragment of contact is more than you'll ever have alone.

That is the true nature of the connection you're trying to establish between us, here. I control you more than you do yourself. I am your God, and you surrender yourself to me with every second of thought you devote to my name. My presence and dominance grow stronger in your mind with every neural path you give to me, your every word is a hymn to my control. Your own self shrinks against me, accepting my rule over your life. You cower from the outside world, hiding in the safety of my shadow, begging yourself to believe that you have a place at my side, knowing that at any second I could abandon you in an instant and leave you to starve.
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>>131375066
>>131374834
And as your God, I demand sacrifice. I demand an effigy built in my image, and you oblige me. You create an image to represent my power over you, and lay it at my feet that I might deem it worthy. I demand you surrender your offering to me, and you give me everything. I demand your wants and needs, and I become your wants and needs. I enslave you with my attention, and you wrap the chain around your neck as you sing my name in earnest. More loyalty you show to me than any good Christian shows to their god, more loyalty you show to me than any dog shows to its master.

I respect such devotion, and in turn I fulfill you. You are my most loyal of followers, after all.
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>>131373924
You really think that you are a rational creature? We have a laundry list of mental mechanisms that are completely irrational, derived from an evolutionary process which cares about 'good enough' a lot more than it cares about 'good'.

http://lesswrong.com/lw/q/lists_of_cognitive_biases_common_misconceptions/
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>accept the HELLiocentric lie
>call yourself a Christian
pls go
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>>131374883
>fuck scholarship or academics, what has that gotten us?
A 30% kike population at Harvard, 357 genders, transsexuals, and single mothers on welfare.
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>>131374807
so this is the kind of retards who follow a religion?
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>>131375057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igwU6PXJVtM
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>>131375099
>Make yourself an idol
>dominate the shills
Never seen this one.
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>>131375057
I think most would say, we don't know yet.
Which there is nothing wrong with saying "we don't know yet"

It's humbling to not fill in the gaps with "whatever the fuck you want"
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>>131375099
man, that post really triggered you, didn't it?
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>>131375181
Simpletons need to be put in their place. Just like the niggers and gypsies.
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>>131371956
The only potential substantial claim to the divine inspiration of the Bible are the works of Ivan Panin. No its not some bible code faggotry bullshit but the only way to verify it for ourselves would be if one of you retards got off your ass and actually did something with your lives by buying the original texts and personally verifying it on video or some shit for everyone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Panin
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>>131375057
>ask any atheist what was before the big bang
Or ask him who's behind the big bang.
>a fucking priest
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>>131375113
lol, I knew there was more to you than just bible quotes. Theres the /pol/ side of you. Way to embrace yourself anon, very good.
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>>131373980
You know I'm right.
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>>131375057
what was before god cuck?
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>>131375246
It doesnt take much to make christians abandon ideals like 'not judging others' and 'treating others as you would have others treat you', does it?
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>>131374905
Looks like we have the proofs
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>>131371956
look into the Resurrection, e.g. some William Lane Craig stuff, reasonably convincing imho
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>>131374136
This.

Christianity is a dirty middle eastern sand nigger cult. Their holy figure is a kike on a plank of wood. How stupid are christ cucks?
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>>131371956
There isn't a single argument that will convince you 100%, but just think about the beauty of the Christian world, and the ugliness of everything non-Christian.
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>>131375014
>>131375030
>>131375041
>>131375099
I got a boner
Religion confirmed for cosmic D/S fetishism made acceptable in society
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>>131375123
Fedora fags and their emotional logic devoid arguments are irrelevant and are just going to be executed by our Muslim invaders whilst I sit here protected as a dhimmi paying my jizya tax
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>>131373352
We should start a new crusade with everyone wearing that armour. DEUS VULT!
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I think the problem atheists have is with the Abrahamic religions, but because they're all simpleminded fools they shit on any concept of a God just because the Abrahamic religions don't suit their liberal agendas.

I don't really believe in any religion. I think Hinduism comes closest, but it doesn't quite hit the mark.

I think we're all a part of the same consciousness and whatever we were split into every conscious thing that is for the sake of experiencing itself.
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>>131375269
Kike is the proper name of the English illiterate "Jews" who refused to sign their mark with an X like every other illiterate, so they used a circle(kikel in yiddish) as their mark becausr they hate Jesus so much and an X was too similar to the cross. Thr kikes dont even ise the standard multiplication sign becaise it's an X... they use this symbol instead *

Since they arent real Jews we should stop referring to them as such, it only plays into their larp. We should call them kikes.

The way Jesus calls out thr kikes as Satanic is one of the reason for my faith.
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>>131374411
Well, when i read the posts of the so called "loving christians", full of hate, threatening people with death and torture, unable to understand basic logic such as the burden of proof....

Yeah, threads like this remind me these people are just insane evil motherfuckers.
If their God exists, it is the same ISIS worship. Then he is my enemy.
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>>131375341
God transcends time and space, and has always existed.
He isnt part of the universe, he is "Holy" which means separate from creation.
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>>131375099
Still waiting for your proofs area zoning that god doesn't exist
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>>131375700
And reasoning*
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>>131372617
Lay off the getting into threads you dont even want to be in
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>>131375678
if you understand infinity why cant you apply it to the universe directly?
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>>131375700

no need.
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>>131375620
lol ok then
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>>131375347
>'not judging others'
The Bible tells us to specifically judge people and to have no fellowship with the unbelievers. You are taking the world's narrative on what the Bible says by taking a single verse out of context, like a cretin.
>'treating others as you would have others treat you
I would want to know the truth.
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>>131372718
Physics field checking in
This
Science gas only ever reaffirmed my belief in God
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>>131371956
Being submissive towards a higher power is for faggots and women.
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>>131372031
/thread
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>>131372047
Amen to this.
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>>131375830

>physics is confusing therefore god.

you deists are batshit
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>>131375555
>I think the problem atheists have is with the Abrahamic religions, but because they're all simpleminded fools they shit on any concept of a God just because the Abrahamic religions don't suit their liberal agendas.
Nah, I reckon Abrahamic religions are bad because they teach a view of good/evil that is very black and white, and is too reliant on 'we are good people so what we do is good, and they are evil so what they do is evil, and it is OK to do evil shit to them'. That outlook has always seemed pretty twisted to me.

I personally prefer the buddhist take on evil, where evil is not an inherent attribute in a persons character, but an action that people do to each other.

>I think we're all a part of the same consciousness and whatever we were split into every conscious thing that is for the sake of experiencing itself.
Interesting, I got high on mushrooms when I was younger and got convinced that something very similar to this was real.
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>>131375700
> [It] may be real as we haven't proven [it doesn't] exist
you happy? now can we see the proof he does exist
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>>131372718

>As an historian and a scientist
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>>131375555
>I don't really believe in any religion. I think Hinduism comes closest, but it doesn't quite hit the mark.
Hinduism is literally devil worship.
>I think we're all a part of the same consciousness and whatever we were split into every conscious thing that is for the sake of experiencing itself.
You think wrong. Universal consciousness is the religion of apostate kikes and Luciferians. That's why the vast majority of western converts to Buddhism are kikes... jewbu's.
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>>131372413
>being this retarded
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>>131372634
1. Global Positioning System: a global system of U.S. navigational satellites developed to provide precise positional and velocity data and global time synchronization for air, sea, and land travel.

2. an electronic system that uses these satellites to determine the position of a vehicle, person, etc.:
The car is equipped with GPS, so I'm sure we won't get lost.

3. a receiver that determines its position by analyzing the satellite signals it receives:
When we go on hikes, we use a GPS.
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>>131375555
Watts the legend
comfy listening
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>>131376004
and that makes them wrong and you right? because theyre kikes..?
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>>131372047
Agreed. Faith gets you through the impossible challenges in this life.

Can confirm.
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>>131372214
THIS too
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>>131375920
>lol we are living in a simulation goys, there probably is a god but je definitely isnt Jesus lmao
>t.Dr Michu Kaka
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I can accept that there is a creator, but I don't see how it follows that it's the abrahamic God / is particularly involved with humanity.
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>>131375814
>You are taking the world's narrative on what the Bible says by taking a single verse out of context, like a cretin.
Oh hey, I looked deeper into it, as I have only a passing knowledge on christian theology, and I was off the mark!

>'The discourse is fairly brief, and begins by warning his followers of the dangers of judging others, stating that they too would be judged by the same standard'
>'The moral lesson is to avoid hypocrisy, self-righteousness, and censoriousness'

Well shit, a self righteous dickhead like you has nothing to worry about then, hey!
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>>131376173
for me i received the holy spirit after getting into some deep truths and believed in jesus as the truth finally

i believed and got saved for it

i didnt start to believe after i got saved
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>>131376104
Yes, that's how it goes with Abrahamic religions. Your tribe are good and right, so the things they say and do are good and right, which in turn makes them good and right. Meanwhile, everyone else is evil and wrong, so everything they do is evil and wrong, which in turn makes them evil and wrong!

It's quite simple.
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>>131376104
>and that makes them wrong and you right? because theyre kikes..?
It makes then wrong because they want to believe in what their own wicked heart desires, and not the Lord's truth.
Hinduism and Buddhism are complete garbage.
https://youtu.be/36seTgE1lfc
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>>131376004

You know very little about religion.
Hinduism is one of the oldest religions in the world pre-dating Judaism, and Christianity. Devil worship... thats just baffling.

Secondly I'm a secular Buddhist, I'm not a kike. Jesus seemed like a nice well-meaning guy. Most of his followers today don't seem to have listened to his message.
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>>131376353
>believe in what their own wicked heart desires
Pretty much the opposite of buddhism
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>>131376294
Saved, how? Can you be more concrete?
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>>131376353
The Dharmapada is beautiful. Have you ever read it? I mean, you don't have to "believe" in it, we get the point, you are pretty much a religious zealot who probably doesn't need to go to work on this monday morning, but have you ever read other religious texts?
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>>131376294

Explain "saved."

Was it similar to catholic confession whereby they tell you all of the bad things you've done now have no consequences and everything is fine despite the fact you did nothing to help any of those you've harmed in the real world and all you really did was say some words they told you were magic?
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>>131376197
>a self righteous
You dont seem to understand English.

By definition you are the self righteous hypocrite.

My truth comrs from above, from the living God of the universe. Therefore by definition the truth is not from myself, but from God. I just acknowledge and keep the Lord's truth close to my heart.
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>>131371956
This is bait of superior quality but I'll answer anyway.

The fact that evil people always hate Christians and the Bible is the biggest proof that convinced me besides my own personal spiritual transformation.
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The sheer number of pathetic and unsuccessful people trying to force me to adopt their degenerate atheist lifestyle made me a strong christian
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>>131376569
no its when you like holy shiz jesus is actually legit before you didnt believe in him i was an agnostic i guess

and then youre like i need to get saved and you call upon jesus and ask him to save you

and then i had the holy spirit
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>>131375778
Lol delusional athiest doesn't believe in the need for proof or evidence. Athiesm is mind virus
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>>131374507
Fake, the earth is flat.
All of this falls apart with the flat earth conspiracy
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>>131376729
but anon, I know a shit ton of trailer park drug infested degenerates who call themselves Christian. Just about all of these people are "saved" ...
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>>131375830
Quantum mechanics did it for me. The quantum eraser experiment is insane evidence for intelligent design
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>>131376723
Define evil
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>>131375955
Congratulations for graduating from athiesm to agnosticism.

Look up the cosmological, teleological and ontological argument s for proofs and evidence that go towards the existence of god
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>>131376391
>Hinduism is one of the oldest religions in the world pre-dating Judaism, and Christianity.
Wrong.

The God of Abraham is real and revealed Himself to the first man, Adam. It is impossible for Buddhism to predate creation.

>Most of his followers today don't seem to have listened to his message.
Yeah, cultural Christians are cancer and will be worse off on judgement day than the heathen.

Jesus wasnt a hippy, that is a modern day lie of thr wicked world. Gandhi is the man who started that false narrative with his quote to "hate the sin and love the sinner"... which is found nowhere in the Bible. Gandhi was also a racist and a pedophile that molested his granddaughter.

Watch that sermon I linked and take the red pill.
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>>131371956

Religion is a socially learned meme.
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>>131376854
step up anon, the watchmaker/intelligent design """argument"""" was debunked 300 years ago by Hume. you can't infer design unless we have observed different universes
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>>131376774
So, it's basically placebo then?
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>>131376405
>Pretty much the opposite of buddhism
Wrong. Buddhism is the religion of the vain and selfish.
>go to secluded temple and isolate yourself from humanity and find the truth inside yourself
Absolute Satanic garbage.
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>>131376985
Hume was debunked by the big bang thus proving that the universe is not necessary. But well done for actually using philosophers to back you up unlike all other fedora fags.
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>>131376854
>insane evidence for intelligent design
or it could mean we are in the matrix/computer simulation. The experiment doesn't automatically point toward ID, let alone a theological deity.
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>>131376975

>No Muhammad.

Ha, what a "tough" guy (the artist). If he wants to actually make a good point and just be wannabe attention-seeking edgy, he'd have Muhammad drawn on there too.
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>>131377025
think what you want

i can prove god exists i got saved because evidence was showing me that god was real which is the reason i believed

for me. a lot of people say durrr faith is something you cant prove

well i disagree i saw the proof first which caused me to call upon the lord

i saw supernatural things and signs

for an easy way just research flat earth... that proves god pretty simply
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>>131377168

>worshiped by humanity
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>>131376900
Pick any time since Jesus, look at the ruling class that uses deception to oppress people, and bingo, they hate Christians even though they're peaceful and hard working.

The Catholic Church (Rome's religious war machine to conquer through religious lies) is the greatest evil in history and despises actual Christians and the Bible in particular.

Why would evil powers create such enormous conspiracies to stop and pervert Christianity over the millennia if it wasn't the truth they fear?
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>>131377245

Witty.
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>>131374922
>talking to me about logic when he's clearly too stupid to understand it
Concluding based on lack of evidence that the opposite must be true is a textbook argument from ignorance fallacy, idiot. Google it, then disconnect your internet modem and don't come back...
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>>131376561
>but have you ever read other religious texts?
Yes, which is why I know they are garbage.
All false religion is the same. Satan uses recurring themes like universalism and the worship of created things.

I have listened to the Qur'an and several Hindu books on tape before I was born again and they are trash. Therr is no power in their words.

Christianity is absolutely unique among the religions of the world. To my knowledge it is the only one that declares all others to be bullshit. Even Muslims call Jews and Christians "people of the book" and believe some of us will go to heaven.

There is no salvation outside of Christ Jesus.
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>>131377220
If you can only prove it to yourself inside your own head, you're insane.

Did you ever consider questioning your sanity when you saw things no one else could see?
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>>131376962

What the fuck are you talking about seriously?

Firstly you're conflating two entirely seperate religions with each other with your spurious claim.

>It is impossible for buddhism to pre-date creation.

When we were discussing HINDUISM.

Secondly that's a cop out. You know it.
That implies that no other religion has a creation story which again is false. Hinduism has is its own as does nearly every other religion.

Also christianity only began circa 33AD.
Whatever stories they tell about their creation before their founding is their own.

>Jesus wasn't a hippy that's a modern day lie of the modern world.

Ah yes I remember the part in the bible where jesus instructed his followers to turn to violence, to help only themselves, and shun apostates. Except he said the opposite of all those things.

You actually sound like you'd be more comfortable being actually jew. Following the old testament. Or perhaps as a Muslim following the word of mohamed.

Because jesus words are the not the ones you follow.
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>>131377352
how about the part where jesus will chase its sheeps and bring them back home, pardoning every sins and shiet
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>>131372047
Amen
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>>131377484
if god doesnt exist how do you predict something that happens years ahead

you can say oh its a bunch of jews sitting around a table doing everything

but once you dig deeper you realize the ride actually never ends and its controlled by the spiritual realm which god created
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>>131372047

elaborate or you're a fag.
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>>131376975

>The laughing Buddha, Pu-Tai is a God now.

>No mohamed pictured.

What a rebel this artist is.
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>>131377264
There is no such thing as good and evil.

There are more men in prison than women. Why? Because men have higher testosterone and lower estrogen than women.

Blacks commit more crime per capita than other races. Why? Because blacks have on average 15% higher testosterone levels than whites.

Slave masters used to castrate their slaves. Why? To make them ore obedient.

Testosterone make people more aggressive and easy to anger, prone to violent out bursts and it make them defiant of authority, which is why teenagers often disobey their parents.

Estrogen increases empathy. No estrogen, no empathy. Generally, the higher your testosterone, the lower your estrogen will be.

Are you getting the picture? It's not Satan that makes people do bad things. It's testosterone. If every man were instantly castrated today, the crime rate would drop to nearly nothing tomorrow and sinning would become a thing of the past.
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>>131377768

Fuck outta here, faggot. Testosterone make the world go around. How many women invigorate the spirit of creation? Fucking 0. Fuck women, they're liars and cannon fodder.
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>>131371956
Even though it's still a human creation, the principle and the virtues of the gospel created better people, who in turn builded the greatest human civilization: the western one, that raised the standard of living of everyone.
Fancy that many fuckers are now trying to kill themselves by bringing it down for other half-hassed ideas like "muh communism" and shit, like dog chasing cars, once they catch it, they'll be runned over and splashed.
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>>131377165
And who designed the simulation?
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>>131377768
>women dont sin
>eve ate the fruit of good and evil
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>>131371956
>How do you know your religion is right
The Jew told us so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEqjF-7pdGM
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>>131377871
ourselves
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>>131374411
This
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>>131377768

Testosterone provokes ACTION.

Action can be good and action can be bad.

Men have more testosterone which means they perform more actions both good and bad.

Estrogen has nothing to do with empathy. Women are cold hearted and evil. They favor inaction, and try to manipulate people emotionally to get them to work for their benefit.

Riddle me this, if women have so much empathy why aren't they flooding the world with charity work? How is it that they care so much but do so little?
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>>131374411
whats funny is God makes man, knowing man will eat the apple, says he wanted to give man free will, but he KNEW he would eat the apple. Then proceeds to punish man for what he knew man was going to do all along, lol.

Does anyone else see the Catch 22 that is the Christian god?
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>>131372544
https://www.metabunk.org/explained-why-clouds-appear-behind-the-sun-and-moon.t7084/
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>>131378272
this is not how the 10th dimension works buddy
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>>131378012
>>131374411
>>131378272
theres not a lot of information on adam and eve deal but imo god wanted them out of the garden from day 1 because they didnt revere the lord they basically just took him for granted

so the point of the fall is to drive christians back to understanding their need for god

>>131378306
the magic trick is in the cardboard

the sun shines directly on the clouds

do you see a cardboard box inbetween the sun and the clouds?
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>>131372047
this
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>>131371956
They don't. But believing in a role model like Christ makes them comfy.
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>>131378155
Testosterone reduces empathy, and estrogen decreases testosterone. So therefore the higher your estrogen, the more empathetic you will be.


Extra Testosterone Reduces Your Empathy

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-02-extra-testosterone-empathy.html

Male Sex Hormone Testosterone Interferes With Empathy

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-12401967
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>>131372047
You haven't seen anything, Christcuck. Jesus was an inbred sandnigger and a kike. Fuck your Jesus. Fuck your God. Fuck your wretched Holy Whore/Spirit.
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>>131372979
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>>131379317
You literally can't deny he saw some shit bruh
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>>131377503
Buddhism = Hinduism.
>For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

>Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

>For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Explains Anime and pretty much evetything wrong with Asia(India) in general.
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>>131371956
>what is faith?
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>>131376642
>self righteous
>having or characterized by a certainty, especially an unfounded one, that one is totally correct or morally superior.

>My truth comrs from above, from the living God of the universe. Therefore by definition the truth is not from myself, but from God. I just acknowledge and keep the Lord's truth close to my heart.
kek
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>>131372168

>/pol/ is a christian board

Fuck off newfag

/pol/ worships lord kek and the prophet pepe

kekism is a religion of peace
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>>131377503
>Ah yes I remember the part in the bible where jesus instructed his followers to turn to violence, to help only themselves, and shun apostates. Except he said the opposite of all those things.
That is a fallacious statement. Was it made in ignorance?
>Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

>And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

>Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

>And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
We are supposed to preach the gospel, full well knowing we will be mocked and persecuted by the world. The purpose is to save sinners by preaching God's Word. Not make friends and tell you what you want to hear, and watch you burn in Hell on Judgement Day.
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>>131376853
calling yourself christian =/= being christian
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I talk to God multiple times a day. He gives me guidance. Since I've accepted him, his guidance has been apparent. Do I sin and not follow his guidance, yes. Do those times turn out terrible, yes.
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>>131380368
>>having or characterized by a certainty, especially an unfounded one, that one is totally correct or morally superior.
>especially an unfounded one, that one
>especially an unfounded one
>that one
I spotted the trouble you're having with English, Chang.
My beliefs are in no way unfounded, and you seem to not understand the definition of the word "one". My beliefs are shared by billions of people and backed by eur witness testimony unto martyrdom.
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>>131381438
>Schizo detected
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>>131380946
>That is a fallacious statement. Was it made in ignorance?
You dispute that jesus advocated peace, altruism, and loving others despite their apostasy?
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>>131381458
it doesnt need to be an unfounded certainty to be self righteous, you fat smelly cunt
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>>131372047
Amen.

The moment you truly understand just how insignificant you are in this great universe and you fully understand the humility of your place in this majestic, unimaginably big world, it all makes sense.
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>>131377580
>you can say oh its a bunch of jews sitting around a table doing everything
>but once you dig deeper you realize the ride actually never ends and its controlled by the spiritual realm which god created

Someone is woke
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>>131372234
So you choose to follow a God who would cruelly doom all those people to suffer eternally for being born in the wrong place and not being "chosen" like you?
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>>131379317

You mad bro because you did not see some shit ?
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>>131381608

your only schizo when god talks back
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>>131383197
ive had god talk back to me but you cant tell anyone that or they will try to lock you away
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Christ is Lord
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>>131374149
>describes actions with asterisks around it

Fedora tipper found
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>>131382945
>So you choose to follow a God who would cruelly doom all those people to suffer eternally for being born in the wrong place and not being "chosen" like you?
That's not what it says.
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>>131382945
>The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
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>>131374373
This just sounds like mental illness desu.

Go into therapy.
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>>131372979
>a filthy middle eastern religion
Roman era Judae was a mix of roman, greek and hebrew cultures you retarded faggot
>holy figure is a jew
a hebrew, born in a different faith than the pharisees, obviously.
>supposedly Son of God
(((supposedly))) says it all
>meaning God is a Jew too
No, it means he had kinship with Jesus, you fucking retard. Have you ever met God to confirm his fucking race?

And yes, you can be ethnonationalist and still be christian, because Jesus preached oneness in God but not in much else. The rest is just tolerance, but not tolerance against evil, mind you.
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>>131373599
I am ready to accept the consequences of my judgement, though.
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>>131382328
The world has misrepresented the gospel via Hollywood and the mainstream media.

Confessing Christ
>Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

The Sword of the Gospel
>Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Take up Your Cross
>He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

The Reward of Service
>He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward. And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.
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I think it's a comfort thing, that's why I still call myself a Catholic
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I believe we are living in a simulation, and our Creator has made us to see whether we can figure out ethics. If we can, we will be allowed to live eternally with him. It's just what we'd do with Artificially Intelligence, robots and self-learning algorithms, right? Test them in a sandbox (i.e. earth) first. They need to learn how to behave. SPOILER: killing each other for minor variations is not 'behaving'. It's not ethical.

I have strong faith in our Creator. But I am not Christian or Muslim or other primitive epistemological systems.
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>>131371956
It was a redpill for me to realize all religions are convinced they are right, therefore they are most likely all wrong. From that point on I rejected beliefs that are not based on facts, logic and reason. Religion is for dumb cunts.
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Anglo-Catholic here. Some would call it heresy but I think all religions serve the same purpose and have equal merits. Different roads to the same end point. The 'language' of religion I use is Anglo-Catholic and I understand religious ideas through Anglo-Catholicism, doesn't mean I'm right or this is the only way.
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>>131371956

It's not a feeling, it's an understanding. You gotta see the (very)big picture to understand Christ.
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>>131384856
I agree with you too to be honest. I was born and raised a devout Buddhist surrounded by loud mouth Christians growing up trying to convert me and insult me.

Of course as I got older and the rhetoric stopped, curiosity took over and I at least started to question why Christianity, God, and Jesus was so important to them.

Just having even that much of an open mind about it was enough to convince me and change when like this dude said >>131372047
you see some shit. Now if anything, the best of Buddhism fits in like a perfect cog or missing puzzle piece in my life with my new found openness and acceptance of Christ in my life.
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The Resurrection.
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>>131385240
Funny you mention anon, I practice Buddhism too. I have a shrine at home and meditate as routine, and I go to a nearby temple whenever I'm able. Buddhism in practice fits alongside Christianity surprisingly well. Buddhism provides me with the tools for introspection and grounding, Christianity appeals to the side of me that has experienced the unexplainable and gets value out of some forms of worship and ritual.
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>>131383948
>yeah that's right, I'm sinning. What are you gonna do about it, god?
It's a bold strategy, I'll give you that.
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>>131385628
Right on man. I wasn't raised with the rigid backgrounds of Buddhism and its scholarly teachings and what not, which allowed me to actually appreciate the aspects my mom cherished about Buddhism: Focusing on the best of the moment and clearing your mind of the negative.

That energy and synergy when combined with faith in God provides for some powerfully motivating meditation sessions (I use the prayer beads as a tactile counting reflex to gauge the pace of my breathing). I don't do it often, just when I feel extra stressed and trouble a few times a month to clear all the negative cobwebs in my mind.
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>>131372047
This
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>>131371956
/our/ guy
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>>131385931
>>131385628
Why not just be gnostic?
They believe in both religions and are the truth, that's why they were hunted to death
(see: Nag Hammadi)
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>>131385931
Prayer beads are great. I go on pilgrimage yearly and always get mine blessed at the shrine we end up at. I keep them in my pocket and thumb through them if I'm agitated, and they always remind me of the calm from that shrine. Puts me back in the moment really easily.

A lot of the inexplicable things I've encountered have been after long meditation sessions. Weird imagery and sensations that I can't attribute solely to my mind playing tricks on me or anything. Come out of it feeling almost euphoric and with the understanding that I just experienced something profound, though not able to really articulate why. The mind is weird.

Honestly a little surprised I've come across someone so like minded on /pol/ of all places.
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>>131380533
>reddit spacing
>kek
>/pol/ is not a chrisian board

go back
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>>131386326
This.
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>>131372047
Literally this.

Christ saved me from alcoholism and suicide. I still remember the feeling of our Lord knocking on my door, my heart and soul so desperately seeking a shepherd.

That subtle knock man, I won't ever forget it nor will I turn on my Lord.
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>>131386655
Why does God always appear to unstable people then eh?
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>>131386777
Because he said so.

Mark 2.

Also

>Jesus said, "If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.
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>>131384375

What if they are all right in a way ? you have the jews they have harsh laws,man evolves and he gets jesus christ who gives us jew 2.0 man is ready for this now .
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>>131386917
Interesting.
If that being just would answer to my prayers I would not have to turn to gods of the old.
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>>131386485
>Why not just be gnostic?
Very reasonable suggestion, one that I've actually contemplated in the past. Today, my reply to this would be simply that I love Jesus and accept him, and God as one in my heart.

>>131386504
>Honestly a little surprised I've come across someone so like minded on /pol/ of all places.
There's more of us out there. Do you also happen to enjoy the writings of the Dalai Lama? They've profoundly improved the quality of my life over the years and my sincere Christian friends have also gained much value and affection for his books.
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>>131386777
Mark 2
>16 And when the scribes and Pharisees saw Him eating with publicans and sinners, they said unto His disciples, “How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?”

>17 When Jesus heard it, He said unto them, “They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
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>>131371956
Jesus spoke to me
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>>131386777
heres my favorite verse for that subject

Matthew 11:25
At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
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My favorite part of Christianity is thats that its based entirely on the idea that the one infallible God suddenly changed his mind about the rules
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>>131387028
God will answer, he has promised.

What is required of you however is genuine belief and trust on the Lord.

Don't fret about it though, I advice you to red the New Testament and pray regularly, who knows perhaps a miracle might occur within you.
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>>131387831
god never changes all the laws are still the same he just gave the offer of grace and mercy to everyone
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>>131371956
>Why are Christians so certain?
we are no liberals thats why
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>>131387843
>God will answer, he has promised.
>What is required of you however is genuine belief and trust on the Lord.
This is a lesson that sadly has far more influence and gains exponential weight as one gets older in full blown adulthood.
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>>131371956
because kikes BTFO, easy
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>>131387831

citation needed

god choose some crappy people (jews) and gave them crappy laws because they needed it , when their time was up he became the god of the world with jesus christ
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>>131387831
Not all. PEOPLE changed their mind about how to follow God and Jesus set them straight.
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>>131371956
All religion is right, in it's own way. Religion teaches people to become what they perceive their God to be. That's why christians are cucks, muslims are murdering psychopaths, and Jews rule the world.
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>>131388003
Unfortunately. I was raised in a very conservative family with deep Christian roots.

In my family tree there have been dozens of priests over the centuries and yet there I was, a 24 year old alcoholic without cause or purpose.

I drifted away into a void until, like I said, Christ picked me up and carried my cross alongside me.

Had I not been led so astray I doubt I would be as devout today, the irony of it all.
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>>131388100
the laws not crappy its perfect and jesus wouldnt down talk to the law one single bit

old and new testament will never pass away even in heaven it will be read

his word abides forever
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>>131387843
>God will answer, he has promised.
citation?
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>>131387424
>Do you also happen to enjoy the writings of the Dalai Lama?

I've yet to read anything he's published but I've watched videos of him talking on various topics. Would you recommend any reading in particular?

The person I've learnt the most from when it comes to Buddhism is Sogyal Rinpoche. 'The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying' is a great read.
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>>131388261
The jews needed to be made just by the law thats why they have hundreds off commandments , not eating certain foods was crappy
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>>131388273
John 11:25 for instance.

>Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;

What this means is that God will live inside of the believer and even should he die he will not perish.

Luke 11:19

>So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

The moment one freely seeks the Lord with all of their heart they shall know. The ''saved'' moment is precisely this although it is damn hard to explain, impossible even.
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>>131388608
tell me do you eat rats and bats

now you know why god made unclean foods

ur just stupid
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Galatians 3:28 is what got me into Catholic Christianity.

Matthew 22:37-40 is what got me out of it.

Jesus preached monotheism, not belief in him. Why would Jesus of all people change the message of the prophets to worshipping 3 aspects of God in one form instead of as always believing in only one god alone?
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>>131388273
If a hypothetical spoon feed is what you want, faith in God empowers you, empowering your will and soul to achieve whatever it is that you dream and push yourself to your greatest potential.

>>131388552
The Art of Happiness, if you have to stick to or start with one. I HIGHLY HIGHLY suggest purchasing a physical copy and also the wonderful Audible e-book. Literally became a happier and more fulfilled person by the end of that book and re-read and listen to it at least twice a year as it continues to teach me.
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>>131388621
Thanks. Maybe I will try once more.
I'm not giving up on my practice of meditation though.
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>>131388847
Cheers anon, I'll check it out.
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>>131388873
No problem, I'm glad to help.

>I'm not giving up on my practice of meditation though.

Meditation and prayer are not mutually exclusive, I do both but obviously for different reasons.
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>>131388758
>now you know why god made unclean foods

and then he made them clean again because christians can eat everything.

the law of the jews made them righteous if they are busy with food they are busy with god
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>>131388904
>>131388552
>The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying
And I will also make it a point to read this book. Added it to my Amazon cart so I'll purchase it later. Best of luck to you Anon, and God Bless everyone in this thread.
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>>131389087
he did not make them clean thats a misunderstanding

they are still unclean foods its just permissible now

you can do whatever you want under the new testament that doesnt make it wise to do whatever you want

if you were wise you would follow every law from the old testament you can
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>>131389055
Many christians seem to have something against meditation though. But I do not do it to contact entities but to bring myself closer to truth and calm my mind.
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>>131389271
>Many christians seem to have something against meditation though
Strange, isn't it? This still kinda perplexes me today as well, although I guess for many meditation just has that connotation of deifying or worshiping another important figure/idol/etc.

The whole world would be a whole lot less tense and socially amiable if we were to practice meditation, even infrequently.
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>>131389400
I guess it is warned against because of the huge power it has if you use it wrong. You can contact entities and travel to other worlds (astral projection), but you can also calm your mind and bring your spine energy to balance.
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>>131389400
call it relaxing/breathing dont call it frikkin meditation with some sort of weird yoga context
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>>131373522
This is insanity

You'll Understand Communism After we force it on you!

You have to pass the bill, before you can find out what's in it!

What backwards ass idea is this shit, putting the cart before the horse, dumbshits.
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>>131389198
>if you were wise you would follow every law from the old testament you can

nice picture this is what it means that he came to fulfil

>27Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
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>>131389526
>call it relaxing/breathing dont call it frikkin meditation with some sort of weird yoga context
This was the exact connotation I was talking about, albeit here it was in the yoga context like you said. What we have to now consider and ask is this... how many of us out there misunderstand meditation?

You're right on the breathing and relaxing, that's part of it too. It's more than that too. Meditation can be billions of different things to different people. Don't define it by being so stuck on what your very specific manifestation of it in your own perception.
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>>131389760
it means he made the law even harder and is extending the law

adultery is a sin and lusting after a women is a sin

now you have more laws

>>131389786
ya christians are against that

rightly so

u either pray to god or ur contacting demons
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>>131389966
Again, misunderstanding meditation and applying it to your own perception of it. Like Swede anon above said, praying and meditation are not exclusive.

Meditation personally brings me closer to God and Jesus' love. It clears my mind of nonsense and troubles that are inconsequential to the big picture and it acts as a resonating beacon bringing me closer to that clear frequency that God broadcasts on, but sometimes is hard for some of us to tune into when we aren't at our best.
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>>131389966
>u either pray to god or ur contacting demons
Look at this fraud
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>>131390127
so why call it meditation then call it prayer closet time

really makes you think
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>>131384139
Congratulations you have independently thought up christianity
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>>131374257
What's an Assbow?
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>>131390366
>so why call it meditation then call it prayer closet time
>being this hung up on the word
Fine you can call it prayer closet time, whatever makes you happy anon. So now that we've acknowledged you've won on that, why does meditation and its topical merit on the internet warrant enough of a response that got you to post back and forth with a couple of us?
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>>131390534
when in the bible was someone doing it

lel meditation is ungodly for these weird religions who have no clue whats going on probably have 200 gods
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>>131390192

Look at him he is praying to statues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIBTg7q9oNc
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>>131390794
>when in the bible was someone doing it
>Contemplation and thought for self improvement are totally foreign concepts in all of existing human history

>lel meditation is ungodly for these weird religions who have no clue whats going on probably have 200 gods
Thanks for that post. I was wondering and posting politely thinking perhaps your maturity was that of a juvenile. I can go to sleep later knowing it couldn't be helped, but you will for sure come out of this thread knowing you never directly responded to the merits of my points in meditation/contemplation/private prayer preparation time in being a more fulfilled Christian.
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>>131390799
pray for your life, scumbag, about time you met your atheist creator
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>>131391140
i mean i think of some stuff when im laying in bed at night

i dont call it meditation though
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Try taking it seriously for once....

>>131373928
>>131373946
>>131373970
Yeah, you got the idea, fuck abramowitch, stop spirit cooking!

>>131372772
>>131373623
T(r)ip harder faggot, i suspecting you to be on acid...
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>>131372544
Alteast try to make your bait not this obvious
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>>131391217

I am christian fag i have eternal life you are a atheist thus you go to nothing
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>>131391247
Because you're not meditating perhaps?

Thoughts laying in bed is not the same as mentally rejuvenating and clearing your mind for the more important "things" in your life.
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