What's the point of atheism?

>>131368190
You know how you don't really believe your older brother when he said he didn't take that $20 bill out of your bedroom? For genuine non-believers, there's no motive to disbelieving in god. It's just something you don't believe is true.

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>>131368190
Basically just a cancerous mix of depression, nihilism and arrogance wrapped into a autistic burrito.

>>131368190
I believe things that are supported by empirical evidence. God is not. Simple as that.

>>131368190
The cold hard truth.

>>131368190
Church just sets off my bullshit detector. I can't go 10 minutes in one without my "I'm being lied to" alarm going off.

Truth is, all athiests are people who had someone claiming to be religious be a total dick to them.

Usually a family member or parent(s).

The thing is, religion didn't make those people assholes. They were always assholes and because they are assholes that use religion as a pretext to continue being assholes.

The great irony is the people who they affect end up being assholes just like them only go the other way and use atheism as a pretext to being an asshole. The great irony is other than one using atheism and another using religion to justify them being assholes, both of the same kind of asshole. And neither one can truly justify their side of why they believe what they believe is they really don't believe it but it is only a pretense to continue acting like an asshole.

Therefore atheists are just people in the middle of having an emotional temper tantrum because someone was really big dick to them.

>>131372111
T. Religious person who never understood atheism and relied upon memes to explain it

>>131368190
the point of atheism should be that if you only have one shot at existence and it lasts a pretty short amount of time and there's lots of things that can go wrong, you'd damn well better make it count while you can.

new atheism is a philosophical excuse for sitting at home and masturbating all day.

>>131368190
Doing what you want without a guilty conscience.

>>131372111
I've been an atheist all my life and surrounded by nothing but atheists, this is the only place I actually talk to Christians. So far I'm not liking what I see

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>>131368190
There isn't a 'point'. I can appreciate the historical, cultural and social role religion plays on the development of society, but I see absolutely no evidence to believe in a literal creator deity as any of these faiths have explained, and I think its absolute hubris to expect one of these man created religions to have access to all the answers in the universe.

The idea of god as being some anthropomorphic figure with a vested interest in human affairs seems ludicrous. And if you're defining god as some abstract cosmological force that acts on the universe, thats fine, but I question if thats really 'god'.

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>>131370587

>Doesnt know the difference between exoterism and esoterism.

>>131368190
Atheism is reasonable way to god just without some stupid dogmas some rrligions have. Even scientists acknowledge fact that there must be some divine force

>>131368190
A tool of leftists to destroy morals and nuclear family.

>>131370268
Evidence that God doesn't exist = zero

>They tax you
>Collect the rest as "donations"
>Wear funny clothes
>Read threats from books they found and translated themselves.
>Perform music that sucks
>Some flavours still kill infidels. This is important as most of you defending your god shit are on the business end of the sword.

>You are left scheckelless and fearing for your life by your local jew.

Doesn't matter what your religion is, it always sucks more than not having one.

>>131376959
That's called deism, a form of theism and is actually pretty interesting stuff Antoine flew the guy who created no true scotsmen etc became one later in life and had some insanely good theories.

>>131377022
>Evidence that infinite number of gods exist = zero
>One of those gods, I refer to xer as "gjjfdbdfhjh6538 alpha", wants me to rape your 2 year old daughter.
>infinite gods mean there's infinite child rape gods as well
>infinite heavens so there will be one for atheists too

>>131368190
Depends what you mean by atheism.
If you mean the definition (i.e the lack of belief in a god or gods) then there is no point.
It'd be like asking what the point of not believing in big foot is.

Religion literally only exist to soothe people's worries regarding death and as a means to control people. If people find comfort in religion then fine, whatever floats your boat.

I just can't wrap my head around the idea that people believe one particular book (a collection of letters and other writings by multiple people translated many times over no less) from the past is super real but thinking any other old story is true is laughable.

999 times out of 1000 you will be ridiculed for believing in something that can't be proven but if it's religion then people will be like "yeah boi!". Like if you tell people you have an imaginary friend called Larry who is always helping you out they will find you insane but if you say Jesus is with you they will thumbs up you instead.

>>131377022

There is plenty of evidence that SPECIFIC God's don't exist.

There is no evidence that an undefined God doesn't exist.

>>131368190
That comic is retarded because it somehow equates "things are chemicals" to "NOTHING HAS ANY VALUE REEEE".

You don't have to be religious to not be a retarded nihilistic faggot.

>>131376304
>with a vested interest in human affairs seems ludicrous
Surely if god is infinite then he can be invested in everyone's affairs at once. It's not as though he has a limited amount of time and energy.

A subversive Jewish effort to spread an anti-Christian mentality

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The point of atheism is to have a label and thus a capacity to form an identity, if the question "is there at least one god?" still matters to you, even if your answer is "no".

>>131368190
To induce nihilism to promote degenerative behaviors until a society has been demoralized and dumbed down so they can be controlled like cattle to fight your wars so you can create a one world government so Satan can rule over it and start the battle to end all battles of good vs evil. Good wins.

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>>131368190

>>131368190
test

>>131368190
To masturbate to how smug and """intelligent""" they are

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>>131368190
To use technology to ascend to near-godhood and become the Übermensch

>>131372111
I've never been around anyone religious actually. The closet is some Chinese rituals like paying respect to my ancestors.

No religion has ever appealed to me because there's no proof. Some philosophies, like stoicism or zen are common sense.

>>131368190
In order to understand atheism, you have to actually understand the people nurturing it, atheists.

Imagine being so self-centered, that you actually believe you belong to the first bunch of enlightened individuals in the history of humanity. Imagine believing that hundreds years' worth of progress in philosophy, music and natural sciences are the mere product of indoctrination and that you belong to the chosen few that managed to transcend the intellectual prison, to rise above the chains of humanity, to become an atheist.

And what do you find on your own Promised Land? Nothing. No milk and honey, only bare emptiness. You spiral down into depression and only find consolation in the few hedonistic pleasures that keep you distracted from the grim reality. The only string that keeps you attached to your meaningless life, is your fellow elevated individuals and that one online IQ test.

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>>131370176
This.
Theres a reason they have the most suicide, depression, fags/trannies, other mental fuckeries per capita.

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>>131388845
>rise of human intelligence
>niggers breeding like rats

>>131389032
In Europe, God is defined as infinite, eternal, omnipresent and omnipotent.

The scripture never said God made the universe, that God made the stuff inside it like planets, stars, separating water. The breath of life was given to all things, Man however was made in his "image". So what is "man"? Man can built(create), speak and imagine unlike the other animals have been able to shown. What exactly is his image? Are we basically an avatar for the universe?

Did life come before thought? Or did thought come before life? Thought is basically energy, so it could not be created from life itself.
Thought(pure energy) isn't possible because of life, life is possible because of thought.

My theory is God is energy, which is not created, destroyed(no beginning no end), changing forms constantly(infinite, limitless), omnipresent, and thought is also energy that exists.

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>>131391163
Oh the irony

>Imagine being so self-centered, that you actually believe you belong to the first bunch of enlightened individuals in the history of humanity
You mean like the first Christians?

>Hey guys, good news, we have found the ONE TRUE GOD! But only WE know what he wants so you better fucking listen...

Literally EVERYWHERE those kike renegades went. They were so arrogant in their new, enlightened form of kikery that they even took the cult of the "unknown god" the Romans had established in case there was a god they weren't worshiping (which is humble as fuck for a people who made their living from conquering less advanced cultures) and claimed it was their God.

Say what you want about atheists, but they are merely the consequence of centuries of Christian zealotry turned secular. You are mirrored images of each other and hate yourselves for it.

>>131393199
>But only WE know what he wants so you better fucking listen...
This isn't true, Good is self evident in the world.
A wolf will NOT snap the neck of her nursing young because only GOOD may survive and evil destroys.

Morality IS objective.

>>131392694
You are wrong as far as the Bible is concerned. You can debate "ex nilo" but you need to read or reread the Book.

>>131393860
Where am I wrong?
Nothing like "energy" was described in the bible.

>>131393431
>A wolf will NOT snap the neck of her nursing young
Maybe because that would be really counterproductive. But your example is evidence of natural selection and not of some abstract notion of "good."

And even if that wasn't the case and you were right, the philosophical concept of good isn't a Christian invention or discovery. Early Christians were kikes who ripped off Plato's work and gave it a Jewish veneer. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>131393199
>Implying Christianity is the only truth

There is a difference between blindly adhering to a dogma and rejecting religion altogether.

>>131368946
I trust my brother he never took from me on the contrary he gave me much between other things unconditional love.

>>131394484
That's not me implying anything, that's what Christians believed back then and still believe to this day because it's what Jesus Christ taught them.

There isn't a point, it's just a lack of religious belief.

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>>131368190
The reason why i don't like most of the atheists is because they have lost their identity they lost every connection to their race and culture.

>>131368190
Autism prevents a person from comprehending an all knowing other. They can't suffer to give half a second of their life to the paranoia of possibly being judged.

As such, their morality is ultimately animalistic. It feels right or it feels wrong. The way they consistently act, when too hard pressed to think back to their fedora-tipping justifications (ultimately founded on the unprovable JUST SO, and they know it), that is what they are.

An atheist man is a man you can truly judge.

An atheist man is the only kind of man you may reasonably spare or slaughter without a second thought.

I am happy for the prevalence of atheist men, so long as they are not too dumb to realize the value of religion in organized society. They know that if everyone were like them, there would be chaos, and the biggest lasting social group would be 50 or so individuals instead of over 200.

>>131368190
I personally think that Religion is to satisfy the average People with believes easy to understand and more complex, but still basic philosophy and some myths. Without this we would be questioning, depressed beeings. Humans Need to know something will always be there that can't be reached and is very mighty, for atheists that's nature. Let alone the theories against theism makes atheism a Religion for me. Anti-theism is basicallly just the radical form of that. Religions can be interpreted differently to not become obsolete, it can be used to unify People and safe power. It is not about believing but to benefit from it, be happy, feel safed or encoured to do something, if the Religion did that you can give something back to it's organisers and spiritual fugures and join it and worship. Basic rules,ideas,principals and values are also in religions to keep Society in form, Napoleon said: "Religion is what keeps the poor from killing the rich", this is right, but the poor, or now the worker-class are currently not religious, because the rich tricked them with fancy consumerism, those People really need Religion to keep them Moral, the workers and the rich. For atheists this all is settled by nature and moral. Faith, It is basically a Lifestyle, atheists are often smarter People who also search for answers and come to different conclusions and go the other path to find Independence and freedom, they are able to live without Religion,unlike the non-believerism of our youth, beeing Sodom and Gomora getting raped by Islam.Beeing against all other Religions as Atheist is nothing different than beeing against others as. Christian.There is no Atheism,Atheists also believe in values and the great science that is all mighty, the Greeks were smarter than we are now and all of their Philosophers found a pseudo-faith for their purpose, because now Religion is more taken radical and serious the philosophic faith distanced more.Atheists can live without a specific faith

>>131377022
>Evidence that you're not a nigger = zero

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>>131395593

What's up with you faggots? why can't you leave us alone?

You attack atheists like we're fucking muslims and we're just minding our own fucking buissness.

>>131395893
Because most of atheists today have lost their identity.They do not care about culture or race and attack anyone who is a bit religious.Am an Atheist(I do not believe in god but use Paganism for its symbolic meaning).

>>131395362
Very true, some aren't able to make their minds and survive degeneracy. Today's Pop-culture is a result of the most dumbest,brutal cultures (Mostly Immigrant),the most influencial world-culture (Beeing Anglo-American, often Afro-American or Anglo-Japanese versions) and their own, which is almost inexistant and mostly only contributes the Things avaible. This created a swift turn from Religion to Entertainment and outside influences by blurred cults from people believing in them not even understanding them theirself (Islam as example), which leads to quick absurd reactions leading to ideas like shoes beeing worth very much and Selfies beeing sexy. We can conclude, the normal People will never live without Religion, they'll create one when forced to. That's why Communism,Anarchism and partially National Socialism failed.

>>131368190
Idea of a superior being deeply troubles simpleton minds. Atheists are actually immature self-obsessed ignoramuses.

Their lack of understanding of basic philosophy concepts leads them to seeing any religion as image of their father or mother or something like that, one who controls, rewards and punishes. They are so obsessed with this image that atheism is actually a form of screaming "No! You can't tell me what to do!", their egos hurt and they became blind to more complex concepts that religion teachings often offer.

Thus they take anti-clericalism for atheism and description (science) for explanation.
They fanatically believe in non-creation, and they deeply worship the dualism of "created/not-created" and decline to see the broader picture.

>>131396415
Yes, as I stated about today's youth.

>>131395893
No you are not.
Atheists en masse are worse than fucking vegans, can't spend a minute without mocking someone's religion

>>131396572
What's the broader picture, Russian philosopher?

>>131395893
I actually like atheists very much, especially antitheists. You probably didn't understand me. Also there barely is any Group representing the theories and opinion I pointed out in that Statement, not even normal christcucks or islamists. So there is no "we" just myself. But you probably think it's me due to modern affiliation to the necessity of collectives, that hit you. Your attempt of making a victim role is almost considerable as trolling if I wouldn't see that you're actually serious. I don't leave anyone alone, that's questioning that atheists normally would support. The only safespace were about nobody can offend you as Atheist are isolated SJW-communities way behind us. Butthurt much I hate Islam and Muslims, but for you it obviously sounds like that is an Insult to your honour and hate against Islam is a norm for hating Standards that would be very mean to send to atheists. As it seems you are pretty dogmatic and indoctrinised, unlike other atheists. Butthurt, pretty much.

>>131396572
Yes, I see it as a Blessing for them to have fled Mainstream, what is something considerably admireable, but their burden is the pointlessness of looking for non-acceptability of certain ideas and that those can't be tolerated.

>>131396572
Enlightened Egoism, as one could call this phenomen, I've seen it at sceptic communities.An interesting faith

>>131395893
What is that buiseness you speak of?

>>131395893
Oh, not to Forget that my first half sentence was "I personally think". You are not that much different from a triggered SJW.

>>131395893
I mean they have the principal of judgement in Groups for the offended,"opressed" ones to be spared.

>>131395332
Yeah, liberal sceptic atheists use their Atheist pseudo-safe-space as kind of shield to legitimately destroy SJWs,Islamists,Antifa and Nazis, not caring anyhow about the Country they live in, believing it is a toxic ideology, that Nationalism. You see, they "believe".

>>131368190
Subversion of Capitalist/Democratic societies

>>131368190
We just don't believe in a supernatural higher power.
What's so hard to comprehend about that?

>>131368946
fpbp

STOP LARPING

GOD DOES NOT EXIST OUTSIDE OF YOU AND YOU DO NOT EXIST OUTSIDE OF GOD
REJOICE IN THE BEING OF ALL THINGS AND KNOW GOD THOU HEATHENS, A GODLY LOVE IS A LOVE IN ALL THINGS

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>>131368190
Not believing in liesÉ I mean its OK to be religious just stop chimping out when other people just cant believe in it with nor proof.

>>131368190
There is no point. ;)

>>131377501
I think that Religion is just Happening through human ideas and tales becoming believed as true. So even if God doesn't exist as almighty, he exist as belief and Spirit of a Group, you would just call everything God's work because he is everything, I think Atheists often don't get the Point there. And also: we have Jesus really having existed and the holy Spirit, as a Spirit of the Christian faith. And through the trinity of Father,Son and Spirit you could say God really exist, at least the Christian one, the Jews and Muslims Claim to believe in the same God but don't defend trinity. For the Universe it was impossible to not exist, so it just existed. Humans aren't dumb, the "Inventors" of Christianity had Greek and Roman science at their disposal, they probably knew what effects this would have. So we believe in human made Moral rules in disguise of god-given rules, which is practically true because we believe it. While you depress yourself with the pointless believ in always changing, unmanifested, flexibel human morality, which is kinda of pointless. Just like the tree hugger critisising me personally you fight a strawmen-enemy.

>>131368190
Agnostic is the way to go in my mind. I mean having Christian,Norse, or Celtic Values is good in my mind but believing in something or not believing 100% with no proof just seems dumb to me.

>>131377501
Argumenting in this way was probably expected to be continued by the first ones who staarted this debate, atheists saying our magical Daddys aren't real make no valid Point in that way other than exposing their misunderstanding of their own "atheism"

lol, just archieve this sweet non-sense right now

>>131370587
that's because a lot of churches are full of people who lie to themselves about who they are and what they "believe". that, or they do that over-emotional thing where they shout "praise Jesus" every other time the preacher says something. I get that it feels phoney. that's why I don't go do church. I am a firm believer though, and it was no easy task to get to this point. figuring out what you believe is hard, but like the saying goes: if you believe in nothing, you'll fall for anything. best of luck.

I was an atheist all my life until I realized that the purpose of religion, the truth behind the sagas are the exact opposite of what they have become. Spirituality is a very intimate, instinctual an emotional journey. Everyone knows that stupid people are more in tune with their instincts. Smart is associated with awkward. That is why instituationalized religion is more attractive to less intelligent people. This in turn explain the current state of our religions. Stupid people are soooo easy to bullshit. Modern people think they're so much further than past civilizations. You laugh about people in the middle ages paying for letters of indulgence. But in Germany the only requirement for putting Christian on official documents in the payment of church tax. Your beliefs are irrelevant. You laugh about people holding the mass in Latin. But the modern religious text might as well be. Cryptic, ambigious gibberish, meant to confuse.

Becoming an atheist is often the first step in the true religious journey. You realize what a gigantic pile of shit religion actually is and you feel no desire to dive into it hoping you will find a buried treasure.

But this metaphor is inaccurate. In reality it is not a treasure buried in the pile of shit. No, it's YOU in the center. Becoming an atheist is the discovery that the matter around you is not sweetly scented gold as you've been told but actually disgusting and smelly. Now that you can see all the shit you have to crawl out the pile or it will drive you crazy.

>>131368190
Open borders and socialism

>>131368190
>be critical of towelheads and kikes
Perfectly okay.
>be critical of christfags
>"HAHA UR JUST LE FEDORA xDDDD"

Why the fuck is christianity exempt from criticism?

>>131402896
They've been the largest authority on the matter of faith in the western world for a good millennium and a half. For much of that time they've been the only authority allowed. As such, many of the most vocal Christians believe they are the only correct belief, as no one had properly challenged them for ages.
Does that answer your question?

>>131368190
Because I don't believe in god.

What kind of dumb question is that?

>>131368190
dude, cuckoldry and defeatism lmao