Why did we stop creating beauty, /pol/?

>>131361892
Technical progress-overpopulation-comfort standards

>>131361892
When was the last time u met a stonemason?
people capable of working stone and marble like that are very few nowdays due to a shift in what people want (are told what's in fashion or not)

>>131361892
take any basic architecture course. It's simple to see how Jews destroyed all traditional architecture.
take any basic art history course. It's harder to see but still evident, jews destroyed all traditional arts, mostly through patronage because no Jew can ever learn to create art

>>131361892
jews

>>131361892
thats overdesigned

minimalism is best

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>>131362219
Lol, you guys are so fucking stupid

>>131362459
Hello Canada

>>131362459
Real subtle, shlomo

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not even the butchers are taught every part of the process anymore. The best we have is automation and an army of stem grads

>>131362459
>anarchist

>>131361892
The lack of God. There's a reason churches are always the most beautiful structures in old European towns, they were monuments to the glory of God. God was understood as truth, beauty, and goodness, therefore erecting beautiful structures was an act of reverence to Him. With the death of God in western society the only ideals we strive towards are comfort, efficiency, and edginess.

>>131362196
>Jews destroyed
That's what Jews do - as they themselves will admit.

>>131361892
While a feast for the eyes, will this cathedral make you think?

Modern art is great.

>>131363434
really switches on the almonds

>>131362348
no it's pretty awesome, minimalism sucks
but i guess it's just preference
>>131363434
modern art is shit
you don't have to degrade visual excellence to send a message
just look at 16th-18th centuries

>>131361892
I'm going to say capitalism is the reason we no longer build things like this anymore, it just wouldn't be cost effective.

>>131361892
>heavy Gothic
Kys

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>>131361892
>why did we stop creating beauty?
pic related, 45 declared goals of the US Communist Party in 1963

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>>131361892
>why did we stop
Did we?

>>131361892

because shit like that is just way too expensive, and there will always be a corporate jew CEO justifying his exorbitant salary by cost-cutting and maximizing the bottom line.

Beauty is a symbol of inequality.
It's much easier for everything to be made ugly, than everything to be make beautiful.
Disfiguring someone is easier than plastic surgery.. Besides beauty is subjective, haven't you noticed all these beautiful double plus sized models lately?

Blame the equality agenda

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>>131363434
In case this isn't bait, pic related. Modern art isn't good. It never was good, and never will be good. It was literally a tool used and propagated by he CIA as a form of psychological warfare against the communists. We destroyed our own culture in order to destroy Soviet culture, selling our modern art as free and expressive and meaningful because that was what Soviet society lacked. If you legitimately like modern art you need to reexamine your life, your tastes, and your principles, because you have been deceived and duped. It is not free, or expressive, or meaningful, it is poorly crafted shite by talentless hacks who were only successful because people were deliberately mislead by CIA "art experts" into believing that their work was all of those things.

>>131365073
Fuck me, compression loss. Reverse image search it or search the article's title. It's worth the read

>>131365073
See
>>131364038

>>131362459
Only knows how to destroy instead of build.

Typical leafcuck

>>131362152
There are still plenty of masons, but they build ugly modern brick buildings.

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>>131361892
We didn't . This was just recently finished.
There's still hope.

>>131362636
Stupid as fuck

>>131366309
>this was just recently finished
>recently

>>131361892
Yes, get rid of the blackos.

>>131366309
That thing still has 20 something years before it's finished

>>131366309
can't wait for isis to destroy it

>>131366309
Breh that won't be "finished" for another 10+ years maybe.
Under construction since the late 1800's.

>>131362348
>t. Mr. Goldstein

>>131361892
>wasting society's resources to build a useless temple to a god who doesn't exist
We got smart. Then we started using our resources for real things that actually matter. If you want to waste money worshipping a fake god, go to Saudi Arabia and visit Mecca.

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JUST

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Prince Charles got a traditional little town called Poundbury built and it triggers the hell out of Leftists

>>131361892
CUE ORSON WELLES CHARTRES MONOLOGUE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGPPUY40Y7k

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Here is a Bosnia and Herzegovanian town recently built in old styles.

>>131361892
There's no incentive to create beauty in a world that only cares about money. No this isn't a fuck capitalist thing, it's about the morals and values of the world.

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Everyone knows the answer. The reason the West stopped caring about beauty, and stop building beautiful cathedrals is PROTESTANTISM.

Protestants, with their anti-intellectual hatred of creation, think any beauty is a "graven image and idolatry." So, they destroyed art / cathedrals / beauty and shamed Catholics into focusing on it for the past 500 years.

>>131368672
Freemasons created these massive structures, not peasant protestants.

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>>131367126
I was wrong. It was recently consecrated and services began. It is still a beautiful building.

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>>131363434
Modern art isn't great, but your post is interesting: It highlights the shift of work from the artist to the consumer in modern art. The modern artist can essentially put out anything, and put as little work as he pleases into his product, and then burden is then on the consumer to look at it and find some meaning in it. The work has essentially been shifted on the consumer to try to solve the meaning of the art. In a way, the less meaning a piece of art has, or to put it another way the more meaningless it is, the better it is from the consumer's point of view (assuming the consumer to be a Modernist) because it means he has to think all the harder to find a reason for it, and when he finally has created a meaning for it, the art can be seen as deeper or more profound.

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We will again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAExa9P7hME

>>131361892
GREED
we don't care about beauty anymore we care about function

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Look at how triggered he is.

The Left have this strong urge to house the people they profess to care about in the most depressing environ possible.

>>131368998
NOW FILL IT WITH SOMALIANS

>EU YES

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>>131362196
It's not hard at all to see in the art world. It's like Jews practically run the whole thing from top to bottom. I honestly believe whites will never outwit Jews until they figure out they need to always maintain control over A) Banking B) Art and Entertainment C) Politics D) Schools. Banking is the most important part though, because with banking comes the ability to fund projects such as entertainment, arts and media as well as schools and to sway public opinion and the whole legal system in any direction within a democracy.

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>>131369123
It looks quite a genteel little place. You can see why the Left hate it.

>>131368520
That's very pleasant looking, good initiative.

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Daaaaamn

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JUST

>>131361892
>instead of feeding the poor and homeless
>spend billions of dollars on an extravagant Cathedral
Oh yea. Muh jews. Muh brutalism. Muh Christian values. Muh Western artistry. I do admit, Catholic Cathedrals are top tier aesthetics and priceless pieces of art.

>>131369805
>tfw my GPU is overheating

>>131361892
Overly complex and old do not mean beautiful.

>>131369602
>That's very pleasant looking, good initiative.
Do you even know what it is? I'm not sure if actual info/criticisms are available in English. To put it short, it's a private project that falsifies history and is basically built to be a private playground for film festivals etc, using stone and materials from actual historical monuments, and paid mostly with taxpayer money (while those taxpayers live in literal crumbling shacks in run-down villages with a few dozen inhabitants).

>>131369781

cool. it's like if Tim Burton designed a city.

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>>131369805
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>>131369867
>>131369894
>>131369781>>131369949


I puked in my mouth. This is degenerate architecture.

>>131361892

Rebellion against god.

>>131368902
its fucking ugly compared to the Burgos or Toledo cathedral

>>131370120
I think you need a little bit of the fountain head

>>131370124
It's not functional for modern uses idiot. Imagine running power cables through that. Or even modern HVAC.

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>bankrupted a country
>got King beheaded
At least it's pretty

>>131370124
Do I have to remind you that we flattened that building? and that Cologne was a major city so they needed to rebuild the main train station asap so they can fix their infrastructure?

>>131361892

CIA backed post modernism in the west

communist destruction of cultural and architectural tradition in the east

globalist uniformity today

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>>131364038

Nuclear weapons, like the space program, are totally fake. The USSR and America covered for each other. The occultists run everything from the shadows. The profane goyim get puppet leaders and sham ideologies and conflicts to argue about.

>>131361892

That is legit breathtaking. What country is it from?

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>cherry pick the ugliest buidlings imaginable to put against pretty old buildings
/pol/ has no fucking idea how to be fair and balanced. I challenge you to find some modern buildings that don't completely suck ass to end your circlejerk.

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>>131370635
>Washington DC
>New York
>Any murican big city

All look like garbage. You have no architecture.

>>131370056
well shit, I don't know why I didn't think it through. seen stuff like this happen a lot in the last decade

>still using spolia in the 21st century
lol, construction company is surely owned by a christian

>>131369100
Their arguments against classic architecture are essentially conservative in nature.
>Y-you can't build that! P-preposterous!
>Muh contexts (because everything else is modern, you must now only build modern)

>>131370742
>well shit, I don't know why I didn't think it through. seen stuff like this happen a lot in the last decade
They could've renovated an actual town or even multiple towns and villages, but...

It's this btw:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andri%C4%87grad

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>>131370740
I invite you to actually travel here some time. Don't live your life based on /pol/ memes.
One of many Catherals in Manhatten. Walk down 5th avenue and you'll see a few.

>>131369905
During every instance of human progress, some humans were poor and homeless. Just accept the fact that you are incredibly backwards with that argument.

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>>131368672
>protestantism
U WOT M8

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>>131370952
No, he's right. If you look at old photos of American cities, you'll notice they've torn down most of the beautiful architecture and replaced it with steel, glass and concrete.
Many areas are so fundamentally changed that they're impossible to recognize.

>>131370961
Catherals in modern dollars would cost billions to build nigga. Can you into economics? They are extremely extravagant. What's wrong with sensible modern architecture? All you guys are doing is cherrypicking the ugliest modern art museums to bag on jews. You are acting full retard without a good argument.

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We have a project in our capital called "Baku White City"
All the building are done in French style. Of course there are bunch of modernist buildings but they look nice with european-style buildings.
The only problem i have with it - most of buildings look kinda same

>>131362152
It's simply a matter of cost. Building just a normal large stone building is expensive AF. Then if you add intricacy the cost will be outrageous.

Its a shame public works have moved away from the stone asethetic.

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The Jews

>>131362459
Learn to detect satire.

>>131371100
You fags ever lived in an old building before? Shit heating, shit ac, shit power grid. You'd all bitch if the stone walls are too thick to have good wifi. You guys are no better than faggy hipsters who take their typewriters fo starbucks and reminisce about the good ol days with total disregard for practically. Strike a fucking middle ground idiots.

>>131361892
Go watch a fucking movie. 3D effects are the new form of art.

Also dude. You know those Cathedrals literally took hundreds of years to build? No one is going to start a 200 year project when a city scape can completely change in 20 years.

>>131369100
Well, he's right, a lot of these "neo-traditionalist" or whatever you want to call them architectural projects end up looking like a poor pastiche or even a caricature. The Disney castle comparison is apt.

If you want to see a pretty silly example of this, look at all the things they've been building in Skopje in the past decade.

Here's a video, doesn't matter if you don't understand the guy, you'll be able to see what I mean regardless:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI4B-QdqUnc

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>>131371144
>post-modernist abomination looming over commieblocks
yep, this is the future

What are the usual differences in expenses when it comes to traditional and modernist architecture?

>>131370922
damn, been looking at pictures now. so much kitsch, they look like palaces built by post-soviet moguls in the early 90s and 00s

i wouldn't expect the central government's involvement in restoring small town's old buildings, it's more or less a local administration issue. of course, since anything outside large urban centers is completely controlled by the same pre '89 politicians calling themselves socialists now, the interest is dictated still by the same government, it's a circular issue. I'd expect they use the same excuse we've heard for years: XIXth century buildings are a danger to the local community due to their run down state and must be torn down. Opening space for the glass jew

>>131370922
thanks for the link, btw.

>>131371291
It can be done wrong, no doubt. But that doesnt mean that it's wrong when it's done right. And even when it's done wrong it is better than modernism.

>>131371289
You are half right. Advancements in technology have killed the motivation to play with rocks. We will build a great monument reflecting on our tech some day. For example space stuff.

>>131371137
They were built when there was good yield on agriculture, meaning more people could do more work on other things than farming. It implies otherwise than what you state, i.e. more opportunities were had at this time than any other time. They were built at the inception of universities which actually grew out of the cathedrals at this time, literally. But yea...

>>131371144
>>131371302

To me, if a city is going to make new buildings with an old style, don't make it look fake like a Vegas or Disneyland attraction with a facade where the backside is blank with a metal service door for janitors.

>>131361892
we switched from collectivism to individualism.
and these things require more than the resources of just one individual

>>131369805
Looks like a tumor.

>>131361892
non-meme answer: because businesses most businesses and governments have no incentive to spend more for beauty, and the architectural beauty of Gothic or Neo-Classical architecture doesn't scale up size-wise (what would a neo-classical skyscraper or office building look like?), at least not using the material and design considerations of the aforementioned. Even if stylistically it was achievable, you're back to square one with the expense problem. Also the vast majority of architects are SJWs and prefer modernist BS, so nobody in the field is working to correct these problems.

>>131369421
Exactly. Banking allows Jews to give preferential treatment to Jewish debtors. Imagine now that you a start up company, and you have a great idea. Your only competitor is a Jewish owned company. Which do you think the Jews will invest in and promote?

>>131371059
well that's the royal palace at dam square amsterdam, you idiot. it's not a church

>>131370730
WHy does this exist? Its so unpleasant to look at. GOD WHY.

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>>131371661
Berlin builds literal palaces at the moment for less money than most of buildings in London or New York.

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One of the biggest cancers in architecture is modern stucco.

Notice how we don't use bricks or stone anymore, and instead use this mold-like material with texture where everything looks flat and simplified.

Pic related. It makes everything look like a mini golf course.

>>131371769
>(what would a neo-classical skyscraper or office building look like?)
Literally google it, there are so many of them I don't even know which one to post first.

>>131371637
>forgetting that we have less need for many farmers today with help of machines
Where muh Christian volunteers at? Fuck off faggot. Get out some time. Your ideals are just as gay as commies.

>>131372014
Now they just need to take out those benches.

>>131370730

Jawa Sandcrawler?

>>131372071
some materials are just plain ugly, but i think that building would look much better with a different paint job

>>131372088
I never stated my ideals you shitter. I was only shitting on your shitty ideas of the past.

>>131372000
This looks good. I cannot stand when things are fake or made to give an illusion. One thing I cannot stand are fake balconies. Either put in the real deal or don't make them at all.

>>131361892
Jewish-liberal ideas infiltrated academia and intellectual circles.

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>jews have no tastes

>>131372141
im not sure if this a good example or a bad one.
stone/brick buildings arent ugly on their own but when you have a cityscape of them, they just become a monolithic wall
i suppose generally large high rise cities are ugly

>>131364067

Man, the Mormons would be bro-tier if they weren't virtue signalling refugee-loving cucks.

>>131372211
What exactly is your argument ahmed? You just stated a bunch of drivel with no point.

>>131371906
Calm down Malta. You can't deny that it's a masterpiece of Dutch Protestant architecture. Our churches might not have that much (complete) statues, but they don't differ that much in terms of quality.

>>131372331
You only need to reread what I have written and that will be clear to you.
>How do I know you are a jew?

>>131372291
Mormons are Scientology tier cultists. They won't even let people into their (((temple))). At least Christcucks and Islam let you in to see.

>>131364660

Someone read Harrison Bergeron

>>131372430
No nigger. Just rewrite it. It's disjointed drivel in your shitty ESL composition.

>>131372233
This would look better if it wasn't flat painted stucco.

>>131362459
Kill yourself commie kike.

>>131372345
Although this is nice, you can tell the center piece was the original, and the rest was added on later. Same with the US Senate building.

Would be nicer if the sides accurately matched the style of the center instead of half-assing the rest.

>>131372512
It's because I'm replying to someone who is moving the goalpost all the time, finding himself stuck on his own arguments. Like a slippery jew with no honesty you try to shift focus elsewhere.

>>131371144
How new is this? I'm going through the city on Google Maps (apparently there's no Streetview for it, just those panoramic shots), and the architecture is very eclectic, but it looks like you have various European and Russian historical styles that have been built way back (some are already in very poor condition), so I assume those are all from the pre-Soviet era.

>>131372072
Only >50 story building I saw was a concept plan, so I don't really consider them skyscrapers. The problem is steel, concrete, and glass are pretty much required for actual skyscrapers, and building at the height leaves no room for non-functional design. But you're right in that for smaller buildings that works.

>>131372616
>It's because I'm replying to someone who is moving the goalpost all the time, finding himself stuck on his own arguments. Like a slippery jew with no honesty you try to shift focus elsewhere.

Perfectly put, I have to remind myself of this whenever an argument takes on such a turn. Well said.

>>131372616
My whole argument is too expensive, too expensive, too expensive. Meanwhile, you bullshitted about crop yields and shit. Are you legit retarded?

>>131361892
Jews.

>>131373020
Yes, but you were arguing against the cathedrals existence in the first place with that argument. And it is no more expensive today than it was in the past. In fact, you even refered to the past cost of it "in todays dollars..." etc.

>>131372933
I never moved my goalposts. Quit using buzzwords you both don't understand. Calling me a jew is not a fucking argument. My point has consistently been that extravagant Catherals are too expensive to be built today. Swedecucks rambles on about how there are always poor people so fuck them, good crop harvest allowed people to build big churches, then some more incoherent shit. I asked him to restate his argument like three times, he couldn't so be called me a shifty jew instead while using jewish argument tactics. What a fucking faggot. I hope Ahmed runs you over with a truck.

>>131371093
and that was a Catholic church you stupid toothpaste

>>131373136
>no more expensive
Bullshit. Some took hundreds of years to build. Inumerable volunteers and paid workers and artists. Near infinite donations into Catholic coffers. Priceless comissioned art.

Yea, that shit is too expensive today. How many new old style Catherals are under construction senpai?

>>131373298
nah mate, i didn't read the discussion, just that what he said perfectly applies to some arguments I've had lately against dim witted fucks

>>131373519
Except he's using the same jew tactics he accuses me of using.

>>131371291
we were mentioned
fucking sweet
although if you looked at our previous government building i'd argue that the shitty current one is better
disgusting commie "architecture" should exist

>>131373298
If you don't understand my argument, you don't understand economics 101. Not understanding my argument is not an argument either.
>Good yield -> surplus -> not everyone needs to farm -> specialization -> advanced masonry skills and architecture and we can afford to pay people to move large rocks around.
>Bad yield -> everyone needs to farm to survive.
Now you started rambling about poor people and economics 101. So they should have only used the surplus to directly feed the poor, amirite? Fucking retard.

I know you are a jew because you don't give a shit about western history. You only feel threatened when walking in the shadows of the cathedrals. It's not done by you or your people. You want to destroy it all but you don't really reflect upon it. Your alignment is quite predictable.

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>TFW the city in the pic will be ever only a dream

>>131370572
That's the Milan's cathedral

>>131366309
And It will be soon destroyed in the incoming II Spanish civil war

>>131373476
The same argument can be directly applied to wonky modern architecture. Why not build things straight and cheap and feed the rest to the poor?

>>131361892
We've moved onto a more human kind of beauty. Just look at the wonderful cities we've created, so vibrant and diverse.

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>>131373950
>We've moved onto a more human kind of beauty
I know you are joking but this is actually the problem. Back then people built this in the name of God.

>>131370187
URGE TO KILL, RISING

>>131371278
Yes, I've lived in a wooden house built in the mid-1800. My grandfather also owned jugend style apartment building from the 1890s. Both were modernized and completely functional.
You also seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that you can construct buildings in older styles with modern construction methods. What matters is the facade.

>>131369100
What is wrong with this faggot? It looks like he's trying to be sarcastic, without realizing that what he's saying is true.

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>>131361892
Protestants

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>>131362459
says the anarcho communist

>>131370666
They sure killed the hell out of that building.

>>131372655
You've probaby seen th actual historical centre of the city

Regulations. All those beautiful antique buildings are unsafe according to regulations.

>>131361892

consumerism

>>131361892
Cultural marxism and left's ultra-tolerance of everything
>F O O D A N A L O G Y
Left's ideology in general is that you should eat everything because not eating shit is shit-phobic.

>>131369781
>>131369805

>Riding through town, enjoying the view, not knowing if this is modern architecture of the acid just kicked in.

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What should happen to Modernist architects? Torture and beheading seems fair to me.

>>131373626
In a lot of cities they solve the commie block issue by designing facades (neoclassical, secession, art deco etc) that fit them, but they're usually not made of plaster and papier mache!

Check out 9:15 in the video https://youtu.be/YI4B-QdqUnc?t=555 - it's hilarious.

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>>131373769

>a dome so huge it would've rain inside from all the condense on the ceiling

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This is a modern built done in the Georgian style.

Nicely done.

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>>131375648
Never noticed this before, but the shadows from the eagle and recess in the background looks exactly like a simplified caricature of Hitler's face.

>>131364038

This is so obviously fucking bullshit.

The Commies would never have described The People's Republic of China as 'Red China', especially as the Sino-Soviet Split of 1960 made them hate eachother with a passion only feuding Marxists can manage.

Also Commies would never say 'Soviet satellites', it just was not in their language (they'd say something like Internationalist Communist Republics or whatever the fuck).

In 1963 the Russians still considered homosexuality to be 'bourgeois degeneracy' and were not in favour of that shit.

Over throw colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government? Fuck off, again, nobody would write that even in a secret manifesto.

Infiltrate and gain control of 'more unions'? What the fuck is that, nobody writes that in a manifesto. It's like putting an election goal of 'get more votes'.

Note how the highlighted number 22 talks about 'one communist cell', which nobody would ever write into a manifesto. This is just some dude's idea of what he thinks Commies are up to, and while I don't like Commies, this is basically just 'they like to drink blood and kill puppies'. There's no politics in this shit.

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>>131375886

>Asian Hitler is amused.

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>>131361892
u only think older architecture is beautiful because it's old. People in the Middle ages and in the early modern period thought Gothic architecture looked bad.
Give the Sydney Opera a couple hundred years and it'll be considered fantastic.

>>131361892
i want that fidget spinner desu senpai

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just fucking burn it all down already

>>131375996
Except this doesn't happen. In fact, the reverse happens. A lot of people praise newly made architecture, at least when it's not completely batshit insane. Then 40 years later it looks like outdated garbage, like an old cell phone or computer from the 90s.
The stuff they built before the war has an inherent, timeless beauty that post-war architecture completely lacks.

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>>131376293
>post-war architecture sucks

yeah, that's cause you don't have a nostalgic or very positive view of the 60s, it doesn't have any mystique.
Gothic architecture was considered ugly in its time, but then a few hundred yrs ago ppl thought it was amazing because it was historic and part of their national mythos.

>>131369867
Lol I pass this building everyday on my way to work. i think its like a brain center or something

>t.Las Vegas fag, please nuke us already

>>131376755
"No"
Shit architecture goes back 100 years now. You can't just keep saying "w-wait a few more years and it'll look nice".

>>131369949
>"I'm just gonna leave this right (((here))), teehee"

>>131376755
>that's cause you don't have a nostalgic or very positive view of the 60s
Why don't you try to actually argue your case, instead of coming up with bullshit like this? Even lefties hate a lot of the shit they built in the post-war years.

>>131376683
selfie stick? selfie stick? selfie stick?

Because Europe lost Christ
No, seriously, Believing in Christ, In ultimate destiny of Mankind and salvation was main factor that motivated everyone to create magnificence
Now when it fades away, we are becoming decadent, degenerate, castrated, consumerist society

>>131377039
what?

>>131377189
You've never been assaulted by a neverending barrage of sub-saharan selfie stick sellers in any of Italy's even slightly touristy locations?

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>>131375996
>People in the Middle ages and in the early modern period thought Gothic architecture looked bad
You know nothing. They were absolutely awestruck by the cathedrals.

>>131373777
Checked.
Give me a rifle, Paco.

>>131377398
Don't remind me. Did they give you a bracelet with the "colours of Africa" too?

>>131377398
oh yeah
it fucking pisses me off that both modern and ancient location are full of fucking paki/indian/nigger ready to sell their shitty merchandise

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>>131362459
>flag

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>>131370478
>globalist uniformity today
Architecture was the harbinger of what the Zionists intended to do to the human beings that had to inhabit that architecture.

"As without, so within."

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>>131376742
This is gonna be an unpopular opinion, but I absolutely hate that sort of Elizabethan architecture where the upper floor of the house juts out and it looks like the walls are covered in struts. Also anything that uses both wood and stone in its facade.

>>131376742
COMFYYYY. Just remove the asphalt en replace it with little stones and it would be a 11/10.

The jews and protestcucks

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>>131378692
>it looks like the walls are covered in struts. Also anything that uses both wood and stone in its facade.

Fun fact: fachwerkhauses are actually *worse* than houses with normal facades in a number of ways: they leak literally everywhere, the timber rots and settles and deforms the entire structure, there's mold everywhere, and they get filled with bugs and mice and roaches and shit.

>>131361892
as an academic painter-restaurator I'm here to tell you it was not the jews for once, it was germans, taking from socialist realism they created brutalism which the soviets later took on, americans in the attempt to create their own style borrowed heavily from brutalism but since glass and steel became more available they started using it more and more on the classic brutalist building skeleton until they developed into modern buildings we see today with glass on the outside, so it was either nazi germany, the soviet union or the americans who ruined architecture.

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>>131379107
It was Le Corbusier.

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>>131377146
>Because Europe lost Christ
Europe didn't "lose" Christ. Christ in the European mind and soul was intentionally destroyed by a century of Zionist war, starting with WWI and continuing up through today.

The bankers knew that to be the gods they believed themselves to be the people could, as the bankers' First Commandment decreed, "have no other gods before them." Thus Christianity had to be destroyed, so the people could instead worship debt-money and most of all the Zionists who create and control it.

>>131379107
Socialism is a Jewish invention, and you sure as fuck can't blame the nazis for modern architecture, considering they went full neo-classic. Brutalism is a Swedish invention and didn't come into existence until after the war.

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>>131379470
>didn't come into existence until after the war.
I would say it "wasn't named until after the war" to be more precise. This is from the 1920s, Le Corbusier was obsessed with concrete from the start of his career.

Check out his (unrealized) plan for Paris from the same time frame:

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Voisin#/media/File:Plan_Voisin_model.jpg

>>131362152

>If it doesn't make profit, its not worth doing, Goy! Now back to the assembly line, you have 500 more units of cheap plastic crap to churn out today!

>>131361892
Have you ever priced that kind of building? They're too expensive to build now, only reason they got built back then was the church claimed God wanted big buildings

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>>131362348
>minimalism is best

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>>131366309
I live one hour away and it's fucking amazing

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>>131361892
erosion of heritage and culture

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FUCK I can't believe I've almost missed an architecture thread

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this is what we are left with now

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>>131381345
FIFY

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this is what other countries have, but for how long i wonder

>>131381566
posting italy for art is like cheating

>>131361892
This intricate shit isn't efficient or practical.

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dumping

>>131381566
They're never gonna tear shit like that down. Too much tourism monies.

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eh probably not actually too few pics ;)

It's not even that hard to build stuff in traditional architecture.

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Sharia law will burn this to the ground, my western brothers.

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>>131381783
If it was efficient and practical enough hundreds of years ago BY HAND, then it is efficient and practical enough for today by machine.

Or are we poorer than we were hundreds of years ago? Kikes.

>>131362348
no its not minimalism is devoid of any feeling or emotion, people pretend to like it but its just boring garbage that leaves you feeling empty and all looks the same. it was an interesting concept at it's infancy because it was new and original but it should have been a short-lived fad instead lazy developers and architects just copy paste these ugly things everywhere and all the idiots who think they like minimalism are just kidding themselves

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absolutely gross

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The Hungarian Parliament building is one of the most beautiful I've ever seen. Red domes are so aesthetic.

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>>131362459
wa la

>>131382069
Exactly. Except for baroque, classical architecture is like painting by numbers. You just get your Palladio book and start drawing.

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seen it a million times and still the good old classic

>>131361892
>From art to architecture, why did we stop creating beauty?

postmodernism, atheism, communism, socialism and leftism are all head parts of the same disgusting slimy hydra that is obstructing the creative spirit of humanity.

just like Jordan Peterson said, SLAY YOUR DRAGONS. nothing is impossible. then you'd have to get rid of what society prefers and change their course. really tough to fund something by the government that isn't all about pure pragmatism and simplicity in archtecture.

>>131382163
These were pet projects funded by literal monarchs and nobles, and many of them basically used slave labor or forced labor.

>>131361892
Architecture like this was built by the rich elites to gain popularity among the common folk. These days they don't want any recognition or to be known at all. They want and have anonymity. Any building they do make are for power control or for business. Functional not beautiful

>>131382467
>[baseless claim]

>>131362348
no, it isn't.

beauty's too expensive nowadays

WAAA MORONS

Architecture reflects the here and now. We now have a wide variety of materials and construction methods but fewer traditionally skilled labourers.

Stone is used sparingly now because we're in a society trying to pull back on excessive use of raw materials.

If you built the cathedral in the top image today (Milan?) it would just look tacky, excessive and decadent, like something you'd see in Dubai

Because postmodernists say beauty is a social construct and this gives them an excuse to only create shitty and lazy art.

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>>131382649
>beauty's too expensive nowadays

Supporting (((Israel))) isn't?

>>131382526
communal buildings were always built to look good and even some areas where poor people lived had architecture that looked pretty it just became run down and slum like over time because nobody would maintain it. now everything just looks like lego.

>>131382752
>(((Israel)))
wut

the ((()))) are used to indicate jewish influence where you don't suspect it, not where you suspect it

Am I the only one here who finds this shit ugly as fuck and over designed? Call me a retard but there is nothing to enjoy about this. Neo classical architecture is the best way to go

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Sorry. How can I ever repay Israel for putting it in echo marks?

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Chicago...