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Wageslaves BTFO

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Well?
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bump
Here to bust some spooks
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>>131357960
Pol is continually shilled by them to the point that they defend their owners tbqh.
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>>131357845
>Ooh, look at me, I can read Karl Marx.
I mean I agree that the higher ups are ripping off the average worker, and that the drones were never truly happy.

My family was well taken care of while my dad worked for an international bank.

Then they let him go and he got BTFO.

>Wait, which side of this argument am I supposed to favor?
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>>131357845

quote from a guy who spends all day in the bar drinking himself to death. one would think he would have had more imagination.
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No shower?
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>>131357845
>6:30
I'd kill for waking up that late.
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Bump.

All the fucking shill threads on /pol/ these days, and no one is interested in debating Marxism v. Capitalism.

SAD.
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>>131357845
>boo hoo i'm not happy with the employment contract I negotiated

>If only my labor were more valuable to the world
>Instead of improving myself, i'll just kill my boss and take his money
>that's the only moral solution.
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>>131357845
Joke's on you, I work nights.
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>>131357845
who said anything about enjoying it

sleep in the gutter if thats preferable.
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>>131357845
Like, nobody is forcing you to do these things. If you don't want to work don't work you nerd.
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go buy some land and live off your own vegetables and fruit if you dislike it so much

either capitalism goes or everything else that's good goes
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>>131357845
we don't have a choice though... right?
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>>131359703
This. Or just become a welfare queen.
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>>131357845
>work is hard wahhhh
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>>131357845
>Well?
Honestly my life would be a lot better if I didn't read Bukowski when I was 20
>crack open that 6 pack
>wiggle your toes
>sun goes d o
>w
>n
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>>131357845

You don't have to be a wage slave if you are not a lazy entitled piece of shit.
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I was going to say something about the importance of contributing to society but who am I kidding. If things don't basically do a 180 in like 50 years tops I DONT WANT society to continue. Let it all burn.
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>>131357845
Kek no one forced them to do so.
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>>131360075
I say this as a wageslave as well.
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>>131359922
CHECKD.
>It's not a matter of the work being hard. The issue is that the ppl who own the means of production don't do any work and reap all the rewards.

inb4 I'm accused of being Commie scum.
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>>131358040
i couldn't live like you. I'm just someone who needs to get shit done, maybe I'm just a brainwashed wageslave, but at least I make enough money to be able to travel tbqh, famalamadingdong.
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>>131360118
>don't do any work and reap all the rewards.

owning, and putting money into a business is a risk in itself. In
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>>131360118
You're not a commie scum, you're right. The system is fucked, but we're fucked either way if we do nothing about it. You can either destroy the system and all the benefits that come with it, or you can continue working for your masters. Doesn't matter which one happens to me. I'll be doing what has to be done to feed my family.
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Wagecucks will defend th--
>>131359922
>>131360001
WHOOPS too late
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>>131360118
There's no real just solution to this.
You have no right to steal what people have built up for themselves and their families for years. And they aren't justified hoarding it and letting people suffer.
We really can't complain too much about the system we have now. It may seem like shit but it's still leagues ahead of what people experienced just a few generations ago.
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>>131360401
>he requires the work of others to survive

LEL
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>>131357845
If there was only something i could do about it. Like the millions of other people who do it.
hrmmmmm
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>>131360462
Pretty much this

t. entrepreneur
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>>131360207
That's true but most of the wealth is in the hands of people who already own so much there isn't really any risk of failure at all. They could lose billions and it would be like a chip off a mountain. Countries owe some of these people money.
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>>131357845
bukowski was a jealous loser
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>>131360316
>>131360075
If businesses start becoming CO-OPs, the consumer would have a lot more rights =]
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>>131360402
>We really can't complain too much about the system we have now. It may seem like shit but it's still leagues ahead of what people experienced just a few generations ago.
It is worse than what people experienced a few generations ago, by any metric standard
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>>131357845
>Well?
I've got interesting job, I do things I love and get paid very huge sums for it. It feels great to be able to afford anything I want instead of settling for cost-efficient compromises.
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>>131357845
>6:30AM
Ahaha I wish.
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>>131357845
Bukowski was more redpilled than all of you /pol/ losers put together. A real man. A man with guts.
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>>131360602
fear of failure, with no confidence.
is a bitch.
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>>131360721
How so?
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>>131359557
>and no one is interested in debating Marxism v. Capitalism.
most of us aren't 12
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>>131360207
>owning, and putting money into a business is a risk in itself

>Implying that if one branch of a multinational corporation fails, the whole corporation tanks.
When you've got a shit ton of money, your "risks" aren't all that high

>>131360402
I don't think we're completely fucked, but I think fat cats should be exposed for what they are. Competition is necessary in capitalism, and monopolies stifle competition.
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>>131360955
>>131360955
>most of us aren't 12

Don't you have that backwards?
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>>131360855
>alcoholic
>woman beater
>whiny faggot

not that he didnt write some alright stuff, but being a degenerate whiny faggot isn't the end all of human life.
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>>131360757
Who are you shitting...
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>>131359557
>debating
same old bullshit
have not's complaining about the have's
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>>131357845
Having done both, wage slave is a better life than neet
When I was never I slept like shit, did nothing ever and was generally depressed
At least if you have a shitty job it keeps you in a healthy sleeping pattern so you aren't getting up at 7pm
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>>131359557
wheres the debate in the OP?

he doesn't posit a better system, just pure complaint. and your OP consisted of "well?"

fuck off, brainlet.
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>>131360855
Correct.
>>131360677
He worked in a Post Office for 10 years anon.
>>131360118
This is also correct, you need money to make money or else you are a constant tool of Mr Big and helping him buy his 100th yacht.
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>>131360905
fuckin sign me up then, I'm ready for the ultimate challenge that is being a son of a 1%er
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>>131361129
because some people were born to wage slave it's in their blood.
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So do you enjoy wageslave suffering?

your fellow brothers having to cuck themselves for the paycheck?
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>>131361129
Having done both I politely disagree. But I have no choice but to be a wageslave right now.
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>>131361332
>everything isn't being handed to me and I actually have to earn my existence in someway omg :(((


commies are THIS retarded
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>>131361219
thats your problem
just go back to being a wage slave
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>>131357845
This picture is fucking stupid. Yeah, nobody would get dressed, eat, use the bathroom, brush theit teeth and hair if not for evil capitialists. Life would be so easy.
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>>131359698
>muh "nobody forces you to work"
Not an argument. Unless you want poverty, suffering and misery you are forced to work. There is no real alternative. All the land belongs to someone. You can't go and hunt and plant stuff unless you own the land, for which you need money, which only comes from working.
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>>131361103
>same old bullshit
I feel the same way when I see the same fucking image of Hillary and Trump side by side, when the election has been over for months.

At least this topic is relevant.

>have not's complaining about the have's
At least you're contributing. But it's not as simple as you're making it sound. The "have-nots" shouldn't receive hand-outs. I think hard work should be rewarded, and I'm not the only one. Even Marx would agree that, until his "utopian vision" was accomplished, people should receive according to what they CONTRIBUTE.

>>131361182
Filtered.
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>>131361499
ight pussy, have fun in your dead thread.
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>>131360694
I blame the Jews
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>>131357845
He's right; it's totally depressing, soul-crushing shit, and the only reason to do it is if you absolutely have to just to survive.

Thank God I found a nice bf with a decent income so I can just NEET it out all day erry day.
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>>131357845
Being a subsistence farmer would be way easier and less backbreaking. You'd probably live longer and work much shorter days.
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>>131361403
I understand it I just don't like it. Don't call me a commie, shitter, I've only defended capitalism so far.
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>>131361623
What are you gonna do find some land in the woods and just farm it hoping nobody shows up asking for a deed?
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Tfw have to be at work by 620
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>>131360122
Yes but the whole experience has given you irreversible brain damage by the sounds of it
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>>131361499
survival of the fittest
is what i believe in.
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>>131360721
Still want to hear more about this
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>>131361332
Oh I'm not waying that wageslave is the ONLY way (I currently work strange hours which I prefer to the office hours I was working before) but being NEET is the worst.

Unless you've inherently wealthy, either from prior hard work or inherited wealth, NEET is a case of doing nothing for months because you simply cannot afford to do anything else
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>>131362028
>survival of the fittest
No argument there.
>Just consider what will happen eventually:

>Ppl on the top sit on their laurels
>No work leads to weak ppl, weak leadership
>Ppl on the bottom are battle-hardened
>They decide they've had enough
>Tired of getting cucked
>Start fighting their way up to the top
>Inevitable confrontation between management and working class

tl;dr: what happens when the working class becomes the "fittest"?
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>>131362400
>No argument there.
I don't care if you think it's an argument or not, it's the way i live my life, survival of the fittest.
If you can't adapt you die, you get stepped on, you get eaten and spit out.
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>>131361818
How so?
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>>131360118
damn.. if only there was a way to own the means.. like owning your own business. That would be amazing. We should do that!
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he wasnt advocating for neetdom, he was advocating for better working conditions
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>>131357845
Our ancestors:
>sleep in late everyday
>no polio
>no farming or slaughtering of animals to be done
>manual labor nonexistent
>luxurious vacations across the world for basically free
>shitpost on /pol/ about how easy life is
>excellent medical and dental care
>access to all the information in the world available at our fingertips
Us:
>wake up at sunrise to start a backbreaking day of manual labor
>disease ridden
>lucky to live past 50
>lost a few siblings in childhood
>no internet
>have never been outside our home town
>mostly illiterate
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>>131360602
>most of the wealth
how much is that? tell us the total amount of wealth available.
Its like saying asians earn most of the grades and now dumb people like me can't earn grades for ourselves.
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>>131357845
Communism and socialism is the same thing, only difference is that your money goes into 20 dozen nigger families instead of your pocket.
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>>131360694
co-op includes you. start one.
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>>131362962
not really true unless youre either a 9 year old factory worker in fucking china or morbidly obese or smoke like a chimney
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>>131363042
>only difference is that your money goes into 20 dozen nigger families instead of your pocket
What.
Both socialism and communism redistribute wealth in favor of lumpen.
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>>131362637
>If you can't adapt you die, you get stepped on, you get eaten and spit out.
>Implying that predators adapt.
Seems more like the weak that adapt and end up living on. The "fittest" do well, until people get tired of their shit. The weak may get stepped on and spit out, but then why are they still here?

PROTIP: because they keep adapting and improving. think bacteria v. modern medicine
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>>131361219
>I'm ready for the ultimate challenge that is being a son of a 1%er
are you really? Ok. I'm looking to buy stump grinding equipment IN BULK from a US company. Let me know when you are ready to start shipping.
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>>131363004
there is a finite number of dollars that exist, though.

There's a finite number of hamburgers that can be made today. It's not a limitless quantity, like grades are.
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>>131363004
Dunno but I was just saying being in the 1% isn't financially risky, wasn't expecting anyone to argue against that.
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Capitalism seems to always lead to corporatism.
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>>131362759
You're absolutely right, but how realistic is this in a globalist society?
>Case and point: retail
Amazon is worth twice Walmart, and most business is done online. Retail is ded.
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>>131357845
Nobody enjoys it faggot, it's what we do to earn a living and ensure that we live in world with electricity, plentiful food, hot running water and all of the other shit you commie fags take for granted
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>>131357845
>not shitting and pissing on company time
>not taking your breakfast with you on the drive
>not working overtime and basically robbing your employer
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>>131363356
That's a cool word. If we're gonna throw around the tism's tonight, I think nepotism is one of the most cancerous aspects of working these days.
(((Networking)))
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>>131361047
>12 aren't us of most

Nah I think he was right the first time
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>>131363102
But everyone needs to be on board anon =]

I'm an REI member, that is good enough for me lol
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>>131363592
(((Networking))) is the biggest cancer in the world. You can be the best in the field but unless you know the right people you'll be thrown aside over the bosses 3rd cousins half brother
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>>131357845
>wageslave
>tfw I set my hours and usually only work 16-20 hours a week for $86K
>tfw I can spend as much of my time as I want with my girlfriend, kids and friends

It's a good feeling.
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>>131357845
Cause sitting at home staring at the walls is so much more gratifying.
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ftfy, OP
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>>131361066
>drinking and showing women where they belong is degenerate
>stating how things are is degenerate
What are you, a fucking WASP?
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>brainlets ITT think the OP quote is criticizing working and not just salaried labor / wage slavery

This was a problem that was already restled with. See: GH Cole and the guild socialism movement
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>>131359557
so jew undermining vs. greed

guess I'll take greed if those are the choices
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>>131357845
I'm a NEET and I still wake up pretty early. I wish I had a job to have independence (and hopefully will soon). Life isn't about getting your way, it's about shutting the fuck up and growing a sack.
>>131358249
>I mean I agree that the higher ups are ripping off the average worker, and that the drones were never truly happy.
That's more in recent history where the top of a company is making literally thousands of times more than the average worker. It wasn't always like that. I think Plato suggested the boss/owner shouldn't get more than six times the amount of the lowest paid worker because it was demoralizing and rightly so.
>>131358262
I don't think that's how alcohol works, probably more like the opposite.
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>>131362400

If I was ever held in a prison, I would just break away one of the bars and murder the prison guards.
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>>131363741
I really pity people who can't find a way to make use of their time without being forced to work for someone else.
>>131363797

HOW IN THE HELL can a man enjoy being awakened by the smell of cat piss at 2pm, stumble out of bed, put on clothes you meant to wash last week, microwave pizza rolls, masturbate, swallow semen, and fight thoughts of suicide to try and enjoy a videogame that essentially mimics the skills and accomplishments made in real life by somebody else and be grateful for the opportunity to do so?
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>>131359676
Gov won't even let you do that.
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>>131364307
5/10

You want to try again? It had a lot of potential.
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>>131363741
>sitting at home staring at the walls

this is the mind of a wageslave

if he isn't put to work, he will stare at the walls...
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>>131359985
Why would your life better? Honest question. Is it cause of his bleak outlook, or is it because it was eye-opening?
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>>131364518
Not really, but I give you the rights to edit my work if you want
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>>131363724
I envy you. What kind of business are you in?
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>>131364165
>I think Plato suggested the boss/owner shouldn't get more than six times the amount of the lowest paid worker because it was demoralizing and rightly so.

Oy vey etc! The final redpill that even pol will never be ready for.

There is the aspect of wages but also the fact that the amount of business has shrunk so much, with networking we're talking about the 'hidden market'. It's no longer possible to rise up through a corporation and end up in one of the top floors after a while, why would they even employ you when someone in Thailand does it for a dollar a day?
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>>131360118
Its almost like i labored my ass off to own my own means of production to then hire pseudointellectuals like you to do my dirty work while i only do management.
Really activates the almonds.
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>>131363566
>not working overtime and basically robbing your employer
this sounds like someone getting a discount at store and being convinced they tricked them out of their money
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>>131357845
Because the alternative is starvation and savagery
Because jobs are not supposed to be exploitative
Because most civilized country have laws that sould guarantee that if you work so much you get as much and you get time to rest and free time to invest on your personal interest and social interactions

the problem is, the job market is run by jews/greedy people
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>>131357845
How indeed...
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Being a NEET with nothing to do all day is hell but being an emotional tampon for 8 hours a day for some dumb whore is even worse.
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>>131363592
That is actually a sign of regression. In the undeveloped societies, the people controlling the resources only share with their friends and family.
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>>131364674
Medical research. I run a small 10-man lab, and most of the work just requires time and manual handling, so there's a lot of slack.

It's a sweet job, even for the guys doing all the handling, since the work flow is engineered so they can work in bursts, instead of one long stream through the day, which then gets passed to guys like me, who can work through it in a few hours. Not to mention that the lab pays for education and training, so all the guys that leave after 2-5 years have a diploma by the end.
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so many good goys itt

/pol/ is lost to us
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>>131364884
>Because jobs are not supposed to be exploitative
I don't know

the purpose of a job is that stuff gets done
and the payment should be as low as possible for the person buying it

I get what you're saying though. Unfortunately I think classified jobs will always lead to a "greedy job market".
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>>131357845


I wake up at 5:30 A.M.

I love to get up early and go to work.

It isn't a bad thing for me, it's exciting.

I start the day off with prayer, yoga, and breakfast.

I shower, I get ready.

I am fit, I look good, smell good.

I am energetic and go to work and use my day wisely.

I make money, and I feel good.

I used to be a NEET: WORST years of my life...EVER.

Who wants to be rotting away, day after day, essentially a LOSER with no money, no drive, NOTHING.

NEETs are losers.
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>>131361623
if we are talking about physical back then subsistence farmer is easily more backbreaking.
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>>131357845
The ideal is to make your money work for you while minimising the necessity for money at all, aka producing your own food, collecting your own water, supporting local initiatives,etc.

The way to win against the capitalist beast is not fighting it with revolution, but starving it.
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>>131361439
yeah, it's society. If society refused to do those things the capitalists couldn't do anything about it but weep and retract.
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>>131365411
I do the same. Except pray or eat breakfast. Eating breakfast is un-Aryan.
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>>131357845
I wonder what it's like to be an old man but still have the mind of an angsty teen.
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>>131361047
Newfag detected.
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>>131365411
>Needing Mr Goldberg ordering you around to give your life meaning.
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>>131364866
you haven't heard about the janitor who took home 300k in wages, overtime, benefits, perks, and stolen company time sleeping in his broom closet.

the fact is overtime makes you less cost-efficient for your employer. He'd love for you to only work your regular wage hours at the maximum profit point per hour worked by you. You get a net increase in breaktime per hour worked if you go for 12 hours instead of 8 too.
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>>131366052


>Missing the point entirely.

You are missing the point entirely.

You are caught up on the "Muh Jews" meme.

You are forgetting that I am happy with what I do.

I love what I do.

I love seeing the sun rise, I love waking up with energy.

I love to be moving around outside, interacting with my co-workers IN REAL LIFE, not in some virtual world.

I love the sexual tension with the opposite sex at my work place.

I love to make money, I love to use my skill set to get paid.

Get it?

Is it a game?

Sure it is.

But it's a game that I am choosing to play willingly, and I am winning at it.

I've been a NEET before.

It's horrible.

The hours turn into days, the days into weeks, the weeks into months, the months into years.

It's a horrible existence, you do nothing, you make nothing.

Thank God I am free.
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>Bukowski

Bukowski is pleb-tier cynicism for creative writing 101 faggots.
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>>131366881
>Thank God I am free
>works for a living
Good goy.
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>6:30am
not even early

>dress
As opposed to what, sitting around in your underwear all day?

>force feed
Eating is kinda required

>shit, piss
how awful

>brush teeth and hair
basic hygiene and appearance

>drive to work
Not everyone wants to be a piece of shit neet or welfare leach.
What a stupid cunt
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I agree with the OP pic but not the conclusion that is being drawn, I don't think anyone should labor if they don't want to but you should still work. I don't consider my job taxing at all minus certain things, it's very easy work, the pay isn't very good but I can live off of it.

There are easy jobs you can work so you don't have to be a 'cog in the system man' I still work for other people, but I'm not sapping my strength doing so, I sit down all day and watch anime, browse 4chan, jack off, make fun of CNN and adult swim. Don't break your back working anons.
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>>131366881
That's good anon, but many do not feel happy in their McJob. Can you really blame them?

>>131366940
>Not being cynical
Bukowski was one of the most redpilled men to ever live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03o0CUZTm7E
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>>131357845
Bukowski is a fucking edgelord faggot with shitty prose
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>>131357845
Same shit here, lost my job at the end of february, i made my last school task at january, i wont get my diploma untill i dont do a language exam.
I cant find a meaningfull job, what fits my qualifications or if i do i got singled out at interviews. I would like to say one thing, somethimes the teamleaders friend get the job, who actually decides who is fit, so she makes a 800 eur because he did found the right candidate for the company.

We dont have a choice, even if you dont get the job, you have to get even the worst job, what grinds you.

Only thing you can do is to save up money, and study something usefull, what will provide better chance to get an avarage job.
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>>131357845
How do I become walthy enought so I can retire early and living on a NEET lifestyle for the rest of my life? I don't want to become a wageslave until 80, but I don't wanna be a leech either.
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>>131357845


Here's my question to NEETs:

Don't you feel bad not having any money?

I make enough money, thank God, to buy whatever I want within reason.

I can afford my own place, my own things.

I just recently bought a very nice and brand new Beretta 92FS from my gun shop.

I bought accessories, ammunition.

I bought a year's pass for the gun range.

It came out to a total of $1500.

And guess what? I paid in cash in full.

How do you guys afford the things that you want?
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>>131359503
This. 5 AM team anywhere?
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>>131357845
You know the author of that quote was a depressed, suicidal, drunk nihilist that lived a miserable life before taken his own, don't cha?
If anything he says makes sense to ya, ya may need to make some changes.
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>>131357845
Yeah, let's go ahead and take the advice of a chronic alcoholic who didn't get laid until he was 24 by fucking a 300 pound prostitute and then got stuck working at a post office for 12 years. That seems like a grand fucking idea.
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>>131367603
What a boring existence and typically murrican, if you think all there is in life to do is acquire "stuff" then that's your problem.
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>>131357845
Because that is reality. You are either born into a rich or made family or you are not and have to work. Most people have to work and struggle. This is how things have always been and how they always will be.
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>>131367603
>

I'm a NEET and I have money. I make nearly twice that of the median for Millennials across the U.S., in a year. Why? Because I made smart decisions with investments.

It has come to be that I don't require school or work. I get to be a lazy piece of shit all day, and get what I want. I just purchased a home, and shortly before that, a new car.

Your post is nothing, and answers nothing of OP's. The fact you think a paltry gun is worth bragging about amuses me.
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I work in research. Literally get paid for burning stuff with lasers. As soon as I wake up I think of this, and immediately start smiling.
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>>131367943


Different story, you make money.

Whether it's true passive income, or investments in stocks, bonds, real estate, etc is irrelevant.

My question is to those who neither have a job, nor any money of their own to spend.

There is nothing wrong with choosing to leisure around if you have the money to do so.

You can afford to do what you want.

My remarks are to those who have no money, and no job.
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>>131367603
Got my first paycheck today in a long while, so I guess no longer totally NEET. Basically just have to live life like a monk. If you aren't using your NEET status to pursue spiritual shit then you are no more than a coward
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>tfw freelancer
>tfw this image is 100% unironically true

bwahaha stay cucked wagies
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>>131367603
I make money from the occasional marijuana mule. I own 73 acres of land with a nice 2 story house. I've been a NEET for over 3 years and have enough money holed up to keep me afloat for potentially years.
Also
>Falling for the Beretta meme
shiggy diggy u retarded anonroni
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>>131367943

>Insults others for bragging
>Makes up a success story

Ok sweetie, whatever helps you sleep at night ;)
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>>131367603
They don't buy what they want.
They live with their parents
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>>131367603
It's a trade-off

If you don't show up then you wont get paid. Makes sense.

It really depends on how much you hate to always appear on schedule and then do shit jobs. This is a problem if you hate the job.
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>>131357845
>Well?
Real men are already at work by that time.
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>>131368264
Im asocial so its less painful to exist in alternative realities away from normies. In the past we were called philosophers. I did the job thing for awhile, bought shit but ultimately if you do not connect to other people you lose your sanity. So i choose online over real life relationships. Without the internet i would be crazy right now, which ive been before. The human condition for interaction really bothers me. I just want to be content alone.
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>>131357845
without workers there would be
no alarm clocks
no bed
no food
no toothbrushes
no combs
no cars

choose
capitalism: earn money. Be an individual
communism: work for the state. Be a cog

I hate jews.
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>>131367648
I wake up a quarter to five every morning. That's about 12 hours before most niggers wake up
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>>131357845
Bukowski was a hack.
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>>131357845

(((Bukowski)))
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>>131364165
>Life isn't about getting your way, it's about shutting the fuck up and growing a sack.

>Dont complain goy, just do what I say,
>food what food, you're not starving, humans can go up to a month without food.
>What loan, just eat less

Been today on a job interview, dude was later an hour and was driving a golden Bentley.
My wage would be $350 or something.
I dont have a car and I can drive there and about to lose my flat because there are no jobs here.
Yeah, its about growing a sack, shame you grew one instead of your brain.
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>>131357845
>How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 5:00 by a cock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, move in the muddy shit to a field where you essentially made food for everyone else.

Human condition is not about enjoyment, it's about survival, reproduction and building something better for the next generations.

>>131359557
Marxism is literally the same, you don't enjoy the fruit of your work either, you make money which is redistributed to someone else and they ask you to be grateful about it too.

I won't say capitalism is perfect but history shown us it's better than marxism. Bukowski is just a life long degenerate who spent his whole life about how miserable he was, with people like him our species wouldn't even exist.
Critics of modern life is necessary but he just attack it by the wrong side: feels, while it's meaning that matters.
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>>131367648
5:30 AM here.
I'm done at 4 PM atleast
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>>131357845
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>>131359503
Same. 4:30 is standard for me on an early shift.
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>>131361468
Ah so you want people to give you stuff. Gotcha
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>>131359503

>>131378427
>>131367648
>>131370813
My alarm is set for 3:50am
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>>131375935
>building something better for the next generations.

Literally cucking yourself for people you won't know in your only life on earth

pathetic pleb tier mentality
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>>131357845
you don't have to do those things, who's forcing you?

if you don't want to work, then don't, just don't ask me to work for you for free.
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>>131357845
communism is pure slavery

Capitalism > Communism

at least in a capitalist system I can rise above
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>>131357845
also watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahMGoB01qiA
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You're not supposed to enjoy work, you do it because it helps out society. If you don't like society and would prefer to go live in the woods and build your own house and clothes and grow your own food and get electricity and water somehow and build your own tvs and computer and cars, instead of just doing some simple task for 8 hours and getting all that stuff, then go do it.
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>>131365411
>I start the day off with prayer, yoga, and breakfast.
I really hope this is satire
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>>131359557
>no one is interested in debating Marxism v. Capitalism

Wow it's almost like there's nothing more to say about which tastes better: shit or apple pie.
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>>131357845
I normally have a shower before work because I'm not some smelly Indian. Also I shit and piss at work
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>>131368204
Fuck, anon. You're on the career path to be a Bond villain.
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>>131363207
Someone didn't get it.
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>>131357845

I just lost my last job because I over-performed and made the rest of the team look bad. The incompetent manager had to get rid of me to avoid losing her own job, and because I was working through an agency for them, they could terminate my contract for any reason at any time they liked.

I've now spent the last week without a job and it's both amazing and awful.

>get up whenever you like
>tons of time for hobbies
>don't need to rush exercise
>can spend time to prepare proper meals
>decided to book a couple of day trips to the continent

Downsides:

>running out of money fast

That's it. Shit, if I could just get a living wage to keep my bills afloat, I'd probably stay out of employment and focus on self-improvement. But it doesn't work like that, though.
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>>131361608
I wish I could trade sex for a comfy life. Sadly I was born with a penis so I have to actually work for a living. Enjoy being a whore, whore.
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>>131360001

You are still a wage slave unless you own a business that you can run by proxy.

As much as that sounds facetious, even if you are a self employed tradie, you are still at the beck and call of another employer and still at his whim for a token amount of money.

>>131359703

Then you get plebs like this that think subsidence farming is an easy life style that doesn't require twice the man hours a day to afford a minimal life quality thats vastly below any employee in the West.

That's why traditionally, a man would work a job/cash crop fields during the day and the woman would do house work and maintain the vegetable patch otherwise with help from the kids.

Now it's just more efficient to work 8 hours a day (nothing compared to what a farmer works, on any scale) for £10 an hour and buy your food.
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>>131359642
>>131359642
>I enjoy living in a nepotistic society where the corpratocracy has near absolute power, and if you don't like it you can't suggest they should be abolished! Silly goy, they earned what they got!
Not fooling me ben shapiro
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>>131357845
It isn't about enjoyment, it's about responsibility for yourself.
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>leap out of bed .. force-feed
>he fell for the breakfast meme
listen to science you stupid niggers
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>>131359503

5:30, get up, slam a coffee and a fruit and commute for 40 minutes to a workplace that I rather enjoy.

Saving for a house closer to work, so I can ascend to the 6 AM Master Race.
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>>131382294
Top kek. Someone in my life matches that description pretty well. Is this CM?
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>>131359557

Many such cases!
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Test
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>>131362637
t. autist
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>>131357845
>implying for most of human history you didn't literally slave away on a farm literally all day doing literally back braking work until you died age 27 from the common cold which is how you end up with socialism fully takes over

but yes it's the morning rush to work that is le unbearable suffering
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>>131382294
>>131383176
How the fuck is this morally acceptable, to get fired for outperforming the wankers you work with?

Can't you guys sue?
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>>131357845
A drunk who can't hold down a job? Such a visionary.
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>>131383419
The system is retarded. Under certain circumstances there's a chance if someone above you sees you as a threat they will literally fire you.
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Friendly reminder.
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>>131357845
>he's never felt the satisfaction of a job well done
>he's never asked for and gotten a raise
>he doesn't have health plan for his kids
>he doesn't have kids at all because he's a poor fag and no woman will touch him
>he doesn't get a matching contribution to his retirement plan
Yeah sounds like the bees knees m8
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>>131357845
Oh, I dunno, maybe because I like having the nice things that are made by people who work miserable jobs.
>electricity
>heat
>food from a grocery store
>indoor plumbing
>a fucking roof over my head

This bitch wouldn't last a week without the stuff that people with jobs make.
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>>131357845
Some people enjoy their job lol its their passion, so then a lot of this logic doesnt apply...
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I think a basic income guarantee is a good system because it solves the wage-slavery thing, removes the conditional benefit disincentive to work, and doesn't rely on the pathological Marxist/Post-Modernist obsession of dividing people into oppressors and victims.

Yes, probably some people will just do nothing, but at least you won't have to interview those people when hiring. :b

I think people who think that'll be a large part of the population underestimate human passion, and as far as I can tell, the UBI experiments done confirm this.
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>>131357845
So it's wrong to want to feed and shelter yourself and provide for your family?

Maybe when you earn enough you can start your own business and have others working for you?

Someone has to own businesses and manage them. Nothing will ever change that fact and if anyone thinks there's something wrong with that then you have a problem with human nature, not capitalism.

Crony capitalism is bad though.
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>>131383612
This is fucking crazy. Is there a way to make sure this doesn't happen? I guess bootlicking wouldn't be of much use here.
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>>131384488
Lmao no cunt.
If somebody can get money for nothing, that's what will happen. Free cash for food and drugs, get lit all day and eat when you're hungry. Permantent recreation.

A degenerate state which will innevitably be ruled over by the few who can be assed to work and sell their consumer goods to the degenerates.

Basically an even more dystopian version of now.
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>>131367001
>>131366881

Work will set you free
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>>131383862
>Health plan from work
Such is life in the third world
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>>131367648
You are like a little baby. Who /5pm/ here?
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>>131361608
>>131382518
Let me get this straight, women can have pleasure in return for money AND complain how hard and unfair life is? I smell some bull trend that's about to fuck up some stocks.
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>>131361608
Men can stay home too. I worked and made $$$. Paid cash for nice house / car. Now wife just works for our health insurance and I do whatever I want. Retired at 45.
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Anybody else read Aristotle?
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