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http://www.newamsterdamny.org/

I was just informed by Anon that there will be a vote this November on whether to hold a Constitutional Convention in ((New York)) that will lead to a vote on turning New York into two separate Autonomous Regions. It is time to give the finger to blue counties and pursue a glorious future of low taxes and muh cows.

I am just now reading up on this process so I can't quite give you the Basic Rundown yet. Lawfaggots needed.

Directly from the website:
>The State of New York really should be two or three separate states but autonomous regions should be easier to achieve. NYS contains a tremendously diverse population and is unique in its dichotomy. The overwhelming majority of the state consists of small to medium sized communities set in a rural and suburban climate; generally conservative values blend with moderate liberal ideals to create a unique political platform. Meanwhile, the downstate counties that make up New York City are significantly more liberal leaning in their values and are world famous for the size and power of the most significant city in the world. It is equally unfair to both upstate and downstate residents to share a representative government; the vast differences in lifestyle and aspirations demonstrate that both downstate and upstate should have their own autonomous governments so as to more effectively serve their constituents.
>Our Secession plan calls for establishing a more representative form of government than the strange form of democracy NYS currently has which allows downstate to rule upstate which destroys good paying jobs upstate , while upstate can occasionally block things downstate wishes to enact. We would partition NYS into Autonomous Regions the New Amsterdam Region (upstate) and the New York Region (downstate) alongside a token state government to comply with the US Constitution.

Con't
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>>131355440
Step-by-Step
>Option 1) The NYS Legislature must pass the amendment twice with an election of Legislators, in between, and then it is submitted to the voters. Since the NYS Legislature has failed to act; we going with option #2
>This option bypasses the NYS Legislature here are the steps to make this happen:
>Option 2) Every twenty years the people of NYS get to vote on whether to hold a NY State Constitutional Convention. If the Convention is approved, Delegates are elected for the Convention the following November. The Convention can then submit amendments to the NY State Constitution directly to the voters. The next time the Convention vote will be held is Nov 2017.
>First: Nov 2017 The proposition for holding a NYS Constitutional Convention will automatically appear on the ballot in Nov 2017 We must register and vote Yes or no convention will be held. In most places it be on the back of the ballot; in a few it will be on an extra sheet.
>Second: June 2018 We must put delegates on the ballot that will support the Amendment to create autonomous regions. There are 3 delegates for each Senate District (total 189) and 15 delegates elected Statewide.
>Third: Nov 2018 We must vote for our delegates!
>Fourth: Nov 2019 The Amendment to create two autonomous regions is submitted to the voters. We must vote to approve it!
>Fifth: Jan 2020 New regional districts are drawn.
>Sixth: Jan thru Dec 2020 The state prepares to divide into regions!
>Seventh Nov 2020 New region officials are elected to take office in December!

Feel free to add or read yourself on the website
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How exactly would you prevent city niggers from simply moving into the new state?
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>>131355840
build a wall
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cringe
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>>131355840
What's stopping them now?

>>131355933
Go suck off a donkey Cityfaggot
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>>131356088
>What's stopping them now?
free money and gibs

If there's a secession, and NYC collapses, where are they all going to go for their free gibs
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>>131356317
It's not a secession. Please learn how to read, nigger.
They're already upstate getting free gibs. Your argument is retarded.

Baby steps until we get exactly what we want.
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>>131356504
Hold on a sec.
You want me to vote for your side?
Why would I do that, when you can't even be polite to me?
Would I be voting for more douches like you?
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bump
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>>131355440

Long Islander here.

Why the fuck would I ever support this?

This would just make it even worse for us. Don't sell us out... please. Don't trap us with the city.
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>>131356630
yeah those muslims they'll settle in your town are going to be real fuckin polite.
welcome to pol
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What would the new flag be?
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>>131356648
This is the fate you chose.
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would NY have a split electoral vote?
because that's all anyone really cares about outside of NY
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>>131356630
>>131355933
Shills don't want this info getting out
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>>131355440
why would they call it "New Amsterdam" in the upstate? was upstate ny ever even called that? they should still call it new york state. then maybe new york can be called something else. but still have new york city.
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>>131356784
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>>131356648
You guys give us 10 billion a year to be your highly taxed welfare slaves. NYC would do fine as a city state if it even came to that. This is not secession.
>>131356784
Probably a cow with some wings or something
Again-not secession yet. First baby step though.
>>131356857
Yes it was. We'll let NYC keep New York to avoid being like Macedonians
I'd personally prefer Niagara
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>>131356857
I agree it doesn't sound very good.
Perhaps New Holland would be better for the upstate region
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>>131356832
outside ny can't vote for it. it's some kinda state referendum on the ballot.
as much as we'd love to have all /ourguys/ worldwide added to the vote count, only dems break the rules
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>>131357094
>I agree it doesn't sound very good.
I certainly disagree.
>>131357085
Niagara however is still on the table.
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Bump from a Pennsylvanian
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>>131355440

Bumping because this is the only time my New York vote will be anything more than a pointless exercise
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>>131356857
I think New Amsterdam was one of the previous names for the dutch colony that existed before the brits established their dominance.
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>>131357094
I prefer New Erie, or just Niagara.
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>>131357342
>New Erie
That's not too bad either.
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>>131357314
>>131357342
Would you guys take Arcadia?
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UPSTATE GENERAL SYRACUSE CHECKING IN
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Again to everyone here

Please go to the site and read this for yourself
I didn't know about this vote until someone mentioned it in another thread so please inform everyone you know that would go out and vote.

http://www.newamsterdamny.org/
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>>131355840
why would city niggers move into a less inviting region?
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>>131357420
The best.
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>>131355840
Give them less gibs than they'd get in Jew York.
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>>131357700
I think it matches well with Cascadia on the west coast
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>>131355840
Upstate NY is too cold to support them.
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How would the upstate NY cities vote? Like Buffalo, Syracuse, Rochester, etc. Without their support it wouldn't go too far.
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>>131357314
New Amsterdam was New York City. Niue Netherlands was NYS incl. Hudson Valley, Albany region etc, Delmarva, NJ.
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>>131357533
>>131357533
>>131357533
Don't use red dye it's bad for the birbs and it's not required to attract them.
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>>131358009
god I'm a retard meant to quote >>131342739
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>>131357849
Oh believe me they're here

Every city is filled with them and the colleges are filled with nogs
Not that they ever complete it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCFUGCOLLU

These would be the first steps towards creating a New state with a hostile Republican government
This little vote could pave the way for a lot of red electoral votes in the future
>>131357943
Hardly anyone even knows about this vote
we could get a C.C. just from apathy alone
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>>131356088
>what's stopping them now. Article 4 section 3 of he constitution says that a new state cannot become formed from another state without legislation from both the state and federal levels.

The federal government is nowhere near having a discussion of adding states to the union and disrupting the status quo. It's not happening until we reach a critical moment in time like a civil war.
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>>131358237
>Fucked up green text
Oops
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Ulster county here

I support this
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>>131358237
>>131358377
Please learn how to read the OP first

This is not a secession vote, but it it the first step towards getting there
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>>131358237
there's puerto rico statehood; and california, new york, and texas all with growing movements to divide, they'll have to strike a deal about sorting out the senate after awhile.

but it doesn't much matter when the federal government just continuously grows and diminishes states rights, anyway.
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>>131355440

>New Amsterdam

Ugh can we name it something other than New 'European BBC hole' just this once? In 50 yrs we're gonna have 'european' nigs claiming they wuz europeans n sheit
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>>131358919
Yeah there's a few different ones being thrown around but so far this is what we have to work with until an actual secession vote
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>>131358919
what's its called doesn't matter so much as what it would do for the upstate/downstate rape, and bumping the thread, so thanks for that.
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>>131357943
I want to be confident but it's a crapshoot, this isn't a party thing an voting may be unconventional.
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a constitutional convention could totally backfire. we could literally institute full marxism if the wrong delegates get sent
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>>131355440
Just make NYC part of New Jersey.

A dual legislative system is just going to end up being a way to screw over most of the state when the details actually get written.
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>>131355840
Why would they? Niggers don't travel for economic benefit. They demand to be catered to where they are or they riot.
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>>131359497
Then we're going to have to get our guys in there

I really doubt that this is going to get much coverage so we have the advantage if Upstate anons can spread this around to friends and family. citycucks like you can just buy a bumpersticker or something
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>>131359497
I don't know...
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Anyone who can make upstate OC should do so it would be appreciated
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blumpf
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>>131360081
What kind of oc?
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Please let this happen
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>>131360764
anything you can think of 2bqhfaladd

map related mems are recommend
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Wow This thread is being slid hard

Shills are scared. They don't want this info getting out
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>>131355440
Pennsylvania will happily anschluss upstate NY if that's an option; we'll let you drill for natural gas and generally just be bros
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>>131361981
woah there

That's the last resort option but thanks bud
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518 checking in. Pls secede. King Cuomo's SAFE act is the first thing that needs to go
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>>131362408
2018 is coming soon

Cuomo is going to get btfo
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>>131362066
Np NY/soon-to-be-NA senpai
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>>131355440
Fuck that. Long Island needs to secede and become the Peconic Kingdom.
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>>131362832
Go to the site
There's plans to break up long island as well

http://www.newamsterdamny.org/
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Hillary "won" NY
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>>131361000
here you go champ
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>>131363216
literally exactly what I had in mind

Fuckin mint lad
saved
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>>131363296
we'll make a new thread tommorow and dump the OC memes
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>>131363459
Sounds good

I'll stay up for a bit more then I'll hit the sack
wait no

the hay
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haha yes YES!
New Amsterdam shall rise again!
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>>131357849
Lol no. I'm unfortunate enough to live in Troy. This is literally niggertown. All the nearby cities are the same, and all the college kids are nigger-enabling SJW hipsters.
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>>131363892
they get gibs funded at the county level because there's state-mandated welfare in sheeiiiiittt
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>>131363844
Calm down Geert there's no weed here
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>>131355440

Your face when you realize you'll never live on Amsterdam Ave.
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upstate is just a weird new england overgrowth
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>>131355440

if this happens I'm moving to New Amsterdam. my family was one of the original dutch of new amsterdam but we moved south and joined the natives when England took it through a faggot treaty signed across the ocean.
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>>131363094
Buffalo, Albany and Syracuse all go blue though anon. Colleges are cancer.
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>>131363947
That and all these cities are run by democrats and are drowning in debt. Troy caters to the unemployed. Every time some old factory gets renovated into apartments it's always "low income" housing. Recreational events are done during the middle of the week so niggers and pill junkies can party while everyone else goes to work.
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>>131364020
That's just a matter of time.
Windmills shall rise in New Amsterdam and you will creat new land!
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>>131364300
Only STRONK american goose-killing windmill
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St Lawrence anon reporting in. Please make this happen.
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>>131364447
soon...
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>>131364195
Good old temple on the hill, jewbee.
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>>131364633
can you grind up dorpa dorkas in those
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>>131355440
You can't make a new state out of the boundaries of an old state. Next.
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>>131365321
not sure, but you can make islands to house solar panels, undesireables and fundemental christians
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>>131365524
>autonomous region

please read the OP first
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>>131355440
sounds fucking dumb

why would bluefag voters give up that much land
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>>131365599
You have to put up resistance to things you don't like, Sven.
>>131365548
Yeah we have a big one to the south of us
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final bump laddos I'm off to the barn to sleep with the hogs
hail wegmans
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>long island still part of new york

Fuck that, I want off this shit-coaster of a state.
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>>131364300
>>131364633
windmills
>>131365599
They don't own that land anyway. Turnout for nonpresidental elections is lower, so if it's played right, the reds can turn the tables because nyc niggers wont turn out
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>>131355440
Why is the place where New Amsterdam was founded called New York, but most of the by the British established state New York New Amsterdam? I still like the idea though.
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>>131357314
Nah, I don't think so. New Amsterdam was the city. The colony was called Nieuw Nederland, Nova Belgica, novum Belgicum. New Netherland(s) or new Holland would be a better name.
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