MGTOW: A Plot to Lower the White Birth Rate

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>>131317825
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_religion

White women aren't the problem, kikes brainwashing impressionable and caring young women are the problem.

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>>131317998
>>131317825

>>131317825
You do know you can stick up for yourself with a women without going full autist and not going near one for the rest of your life right?

Just don't be a beta cuck

Going MGTOW is essentially the only way to guarantee with 100% certainty that you won't get divorced raped, some child that you don't want (that may not even be yours), or some false rape accusation filed against you. Sure it may be an extreme option, but I don't fucking blame them.

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>>131317825
Retard women are way worse than jews

If you think dating a white woman will actually make you end up with white children, you are very naive

>>131319207
This

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>>131317825
>MGTOW
this is a reaction, not a plot

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>>131317825

Women *aren't* worthy of a damned thing nowadays, you fucking retard. Quit being a knee-jerking white knight nationalist and go read J.D. Unwin. If demography doesn't kill the West, women and sexual liberation will.

There's literally zero reason to commit to used goods. They're statistically far more likely to cheat on and/or divorce you. Christ, women can't even flaunt their looks anymore, because the average weight has skyrocketed.

Why in the Hell would any sane man marry some non-virgin piece of trash? Why incur higher risk for less reward?

>muh white birthrates
Nah, don't give a shit, birthrates are a red herring.

The WN community can't even manage to get racially conscious whites to congregate en masse in a specific area, and you're expecting birthrate memeing to contribute to a significant uptick in white births? You're delusional.

Either way, birthrates don't matter. Immigration is far more pressing. A handful of people taking birthrate posting to heart won't be able to counter the hordes of nonwhite immigrants flooding in every year.

While America is already doomed demographically, let's start there. The U.S. takes in ~.5M predominantly nonwhite immigrants each year, (Not including refugees, DACA beneficiaries, H-1B recipients, asylum seekers, anchor babies, etc.)

Western Europe has handled the most recent migrant crisis in just about the worst manner it possibly could have, and it faces ANOTHER one. Thanks to an upcoming famine due to hit MENA countries, we could be looking at even more nonwhites flooding into Western Europe.

With the entirety of the third world at the gates, birthrates should be the least of our concerns. We certainly shouldn't enable one of the worst classes of women to have ever existed.

tl;dr: Close the fucking borders, give up on America, don't have kids with trash women.

Not even MGTOW, but Jesus Christ anti-MGTOW shills are fucking obnoxious.

MGTOW is essentially just a bunch of butt hurt beta males that are too scared and insecure of themselves when it comes to women. They say they're afraid that they might get divorced raped or with children that aren't theirs, but the reason they think this is because they're so weak, dumb and overall beta that they can't choose a good woman and prove themselves to be the dominant one in the relationship.

>>131321923
Yeah just get a good one guys!

And don't forget to just bee yourself

Remeber goyim, women are evil. You must behave like the women you hate

>>131317825
Shills love to attack MGTOW.

Keep going your own way, gentlemen.

>>131319593
>I don't want to be hurt again
>my ex gf b-broke my heart

Top kek

>>131321923
You're an American so let's use the U.S. as an example.

CDC statistics suggest that ~15% of women ages 18-22 are virgins. The average age that women in the U.S. lose their virginity is 16.

Seems entirely unreasonable to tell men to just "man up" and find a good one, considering how few there really are.

>>131322133
Yes, instead men should have the thankless responsibility for trying to salvage what's ruined beyond repair.

>>131317825
If that were the case, Then why do blacks and asians promote MGTOW too? I sympathize with mgtow as we need to put women back in their place. Women are Niggers, Jews, and Fags wrapped up into one, and letting them vote was a huge mistake. Women are property and property should not have rights, only the property owners should

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB8nFBXAoo4&t=3s

>>131321916
tl;dr

DON'T REPRODUCE AT ALL, GOYIM. THAT'LL SAVE OUR RACE!

>>131322294
Are you literally 12? "Divorce raped" is when you lose 50% or more of your assets and are forced to hand over the mayority of your future income to your ex-wife. Has literally nothing to do with fefees.

>>131322427
Yea! By not reproducing at all we'll change that, Goys.

>>131322184
Women are bitching about the scarcity of good men now you know. All of the good rich men are rich because they invested their money, and didn't have a woman leeching off of their wealth.

>>131322442
>Goyim
Literally not an argument, nigger.

I'd much rather men let the fucking door slam on women, and work to fix immigration laws and push for things like voluntary repatriation.

And it's cute that you didn't even touch upon Unwin, and his argument about female/sexual liberation ultimately destroying society.

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YOUR OWN WOMEN ARE THE REAL ENEMIES, NOT US, GOY!

Most guys here think it's so difficult to find a good woman. They're looking in the wrong places though, and end up making decisions based on the shallow, physical characteristics of the woman. It's utterly disgusting how feminism and sexual promiscuity amongst females is shunned upon, yet here we have Men who think it's cool to use women as tools for a quick fuck instead of the base for raising a strong, healthy family with values. It goes against nature and essentially the MGTOW people are man whores who need to go extinct, and will.

>>131322656
Who started female sexual liberation? How did women behave before the sexual revolution?

Yes goyim. It's the women's fault for being brainwashed

>>131317825
I used to think this way too.

What does America need now more than ever?
What has 75% of the population of men lack now that was present 20-40 years ago?

Men with testosterone, ready to fuck up anyones shit for a cause they believed with no pussy ass opinion from women.

I support this because I believe in order for America to prosper the men need to grow a backbone.

Use that lack of sex to make them aggressive and forget about thinking twice.

This will also effectively cause men who have before felt shame in being virgins and NEEts to feel superior once again.

The way I see mgtow is we let women have too much power. In what universe does a women decide who she sleeps with with a flick of a finger. Chads are chads because they believe women are not worthy of their time or effort because they have better shit to do than to deal with women.

>>131322722
Yes, Jews played a part, no shit. Welcome to entry-level Far Right politics. Next you're going to tell me that Leon Trotsky was Jewish.

You'd have to be fucking retarded to ignore the role of white women in pushing for the sexual revolution, though.

Any form of feminism wouldn't have prevailed if white women weren't happy to play along. Stop pretending they're entirely blameless, and just victims of Jews.

>>131322519
If you are worried about the nigger problem, More whites won't solve the problem of too many niggers, We need fewer niggers, not more whites. You just want whites to make babies with no regards for the negative consequences. Sorry to break it to you, but you will never outbreed the niggers, the niggers need a big die off as they are too numerous to be sustainable. The same thing could be said about women as they are huge parasites, and a waste of the white man's effort and resources.

>>131322902
A coalition of Jews, Communists, White women and a handful of extraordinarily cucked men.

White women played their role, though, it's completely inarguable. They weren't brainwashed, they happily went along with it. The presence of Jews doesn't absolve every other party of blame.

Were that the case, we'd have to feel sorry for the blacks, too. Hell, I'd have an easier time doing that than forgiving women. At least most blacks are legitimately too stupid to have known better.

>>131322902
Useful idiots are enemies regardless of their incapacity for reason

>>131317825
I rather want to save my self than whatever race, country or shit

You can still try to help to save the "white race" by spawning some future SJWs though, I don't care

>>131323161
>Jews own 96%+ of the world's media
>women weren't brainwashed

Obvious Jew is obvious.

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>>131322943
Why is it always that Men arent good enough? how about that the women are too empowered and believe they are our equal. Women ruling over men is akin to Niggers ruling over Whites. If women were put in cages, and denied all rights and are traded as property there is no need to "man up" which means being a cuck to women and the jewz.

>>131322977
Quick question. Do you think that you and the few other Mgtows who are "going there own way" is actually going to have an effect on society and change women's behavior?

What's your end goal?

>>131323235
>implying you have no control over your kids' spouse's values
>retarded beta plebian cuck with holds no accountability for how one's own children turn out

>>131323324
We're all in agreement on this, we're arguing about the solution.

Is turning your back on women going to change anything, or is acknowledging and stopping the 60 year campaign against the family unit going to change something?

>>131323652
The problem is that turning your back on the problem wont fix it.

Stripping women of their rights will.

>>131321916
This.

Partner count is so critical for women. The more partners she has had the more incapable she becomes of bonding with anyone. If she were a virgin bride she would likely be obsessed with her husband and give him everything and put effort into pleasing him and maintaining the relationship (and her figure). But since she has been fucked by dozens of men she feels nothing for a man that commits because a worthwhile man wouldn't have committed in the first place because he has plenty of options. Her husband getting married meant that he wasn't that great of a catch because he settled for her.

>>131317825
its been said mgtow is a jew operation which like you said along with race mixing and cucked porn is the attempt to wipe out the white race.

but desu any white man foolish enough to fall for the jews tricks deserves to remove himself from the gene pool.

>>131323944
YARRRR haha :)

>>131321774
>always finland being a bitter cunt

color me surprised.

>>131323905
Imagine if men were not being force fed the blue pills and had the common sense to understand that women lie, that the princess facade is always false?

For any skeptic who thinks I am wrong to generalize, we can just point out that even a verified virgin bride is always going to be an absolute whore, in the presence of the right man. It's built in. It's how women are meant to be. Stop oppressing women by denying their sexual nature and living in a sick ego fantasy. The point is that there is a deliberate falsehood being sold to clueless men on a vast scale. It's a scam that women benefit from, so can't blame them for taking part - if we're such morons that we keep falling for this made-up princess fantasy over and over, generation after generation. Goddamn, take a moment out of your day, imagine your princess taking a big runny shit locked in the ladies toilet. She is dirtier than you. You should've been the one who said "not as slutty as you" and smirked at the wedding! This is what makes men angry. We got cheated out of basic, absolutely essential knowledge - for the sole purpose of making men easier to fuck over & yoke into the sham modern marriage.

Cheated men are too invested in the blue pill forced delusion that his wonderful princess betrayed him. She did nothing of the sort, she never was a wonderful princess and isn't one now, like every woman she is a delicious lying conniving bitch who needs dick and degradation, not hand holding, cookies and a purse.

>>131323161
>Coalitions of Jews/Communists
>saying the same thing, twice

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>>131317825

Nazis are JIDF shills wanting you to be enslaved to the state by having children to take care of.

>>131323285
Yes, the radical twenty-something white women who served as the shock troops for destroying the family unit are blameless. It's ENTIRELY the Jews. White women have no responsibility for willingly going along with it at all. There were ZERO prominent white women in the feminist movements, or radical left of the 1960s.

Go back to Stormfront if you're too fucking stupid to realize that, while Jews are awful, plenty of other groups bear a significant amount of blame.

>>131317825

MGTOW is like a homeless person refusing to pay rent

right, everyone can tell you wish you were in a position to be asked for rent

>>131322627
Men are rich because they took a long ass education, got a job and eventually got promoted. Having a woman who can't support herself financially is your own mistake and doesn't mean ALL women leech of men

>>131323753
Too bad it will never happen until most men realize that woman should not be allowed to vote or until there's a major societal collapse.

MGTOW is just a result of relentless capitalism

>>131324606
Fuck off commie

>>131323376
>>131323376
Well, I don't identify as an MRA, or a member of MGTOW. I haven't sworn off women entirely yet, I'm just not compromising on the virginity issue. Because of that, it's likely that I'll end up "my own way" one way or another, though.

MGTOW is unlikely to have an effect on society right now. In the future though, I wouldn't rule it out. Now, when I refer to MGTOW here, I'm not talking about the bitter divorcees, incels, etc. who are consciously MGTOW, but just average guys.

I'd encourage you to look at publications targeted towards career women in their late 20s. Most articles that talk about the "state of men" bemoan the "manchild." The guy who doesn't have a good career, who's not too serious about life, doesn't want to commit, would rather play video games or go out drinking with the boys. This guy isn't consciously MGTOW, he's just a regular guy having a predictable response to the complete lack of incentives that men have nowadays to advance further into their careers, aggressively pursue women, marry them and have children.

This guy might hook up with some skank now and again. He's probably had a few casual relationships, but he's not settling down. He doesn't have the money for it, and he doesn't have any good reason to do so.

Unconscious MGTOWs, average, well-adjusted men who have realized that life doesn't have a lot to offer them, those guys will be the ones effecting society. We've seen it time and again in history.

Typically, governments have imposed bachelor taxes on these men, rather than attempted to reign in the ridiculous excesses of women.

With regard to women's behavior, I doubt it'll have an effect, but I really don't care either way. One way or another, things are going to finally fall apart in the West. It probably won't happen in my life time, but women will get their act together then.

>>131317825

MGTOW is a reactionary response to Feminism which is a plot to lower the white birth rate. The birth-rate was below replacement long before MGTOW ever existed.

At least blame the right people.

Change your flag.

>>131323376
2/2
My own end goal is this: Try to find a decent (virgin) woman that I get on well with to start a family. If that doesn't happen, oh well, I've done well enough on my own thus far. I'd rather not settle down with some used goods whore that I resent, increase my risk of negative marital outcome, etc. The only reason I tend to participate in these discussions is because I cannot stand White knight nationalists pretending that women are find and it's 100% on the Jews. You can't be "alpha enough" to turn a piece of trash into a good woman. I'd much rather /pol/ accept that reality, than continue with perfunctory shitposts about strong men making good women, and end up duping some poor guy into a bad decision.

>>131324282
Every single Communist active in America is a Communist now? Yes, Jews were overrepresented in Communism. Yes, Jewish intellectuals and academics were instrumental in peddling Communism even in the late 19th century. Yes, Jewish people comprised a significant chunk of the early Bolsheviks.

That said, you're a historical illiterate if you think that America's own WASP class didn't have its own traitors.

Either way, not an argument, there were plenty of white women throughout the far left movements of the 60s who were gleefully playing along.

The redpill on this situation is that the only thing going to fix this feminized society and restore the family unit is a full scale revolution, and starting over from the ground up. MGTOW obviously isn't going to help. Being an actual man and taking control of your women and family won't do shit when society is against you. There's nothing left to do but start over desu.

>Men Go Their Own Way
>They become gaay

>>131324664
Good goy, gobble up that (((free market))) cock

>>131325228
That's like blaming Russia for the Bulshevik Revolution.

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>>131324858
I think John Lajoie said it best. This is how all men should think of women.

>>131325876
No, it's really not, but thanks for revealing your complete ignorance of history.

This is why I cannot stand neo-nazis today. You fucks autistically tunnel-vision on Jews and are completely incapable of reason and broader vision when they're involved.

>inb4: You're defending Jews!!!
I would hope my distaste for them has been made abundantly clear by this point, I just recognize that there are plenty of other guilty parties involved here.

>>131325483

I'd hit that.

>>131326089
This is true. Both Jews and White women are worthy of our hate.

>>131317825
It's not Jew shit
It's just Melbourne faggots living out of a share house and they think they can settle down with a bimbo and live a quiet inner city life with a rich social life

And not just "we live in a city full of cock, and the cock is hungry every night on every street and the pickings are good"

I may be hyperbolic in saying so, but I have a friend, "friend" who turned full tears of rage mgtow after he got fucked because he can't read people and situations for shit

>>131317825
>c'mon guys settle for my used up 30+ year old vagina. Otherwise the white race will go extinct .

Nah, MGTOW is only short term harm. We need to show women what happens when we don't put up with their shit. The resulting collapse will restabilize society around male dominance as women need to find men to survive.
Basically the whole hard times= strong men thing.

>>131325228
White women are weaker than white men. White men drove the "revolution" of the 60s (well if you don't count the catalyst of the Hippie movement which was a book written by Theodor Adorno, a jew). White men encouraged abortions, promiscuity etc. to satisfy mating urges. White men dodged the draft. White men pushed women into the workforce. White men took their prizes by force if they had to.

You say that there are many perpetrators of wrongdoings in history, but hoist all the blame on...women? WHITE women? The most stellar partner man has ever encountered in his timeline on earth?

>>131324577
>career women
exposed roastie bitch. women never support themselves. only men actually pay tax women are like welfare niggers and other subhumans. they only hurt society.

once we get artificial wombs your gender is doomed

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>>131317825
MGTOW does not have a statistical significant effect on the demographics of people of European heritage

All you people do is complain that other people don't want to get married. Not everyone makes the same choices as you. Grow up.

>>131326329
Wow an actual good leaf

>>131326512
spot on man, put women back into slavery.

>>131326329
Hang yourself, pedophile. Women who have had no children by age 30 are not likely to expect you to give her any. There are more childless women every year.

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>>131326490
>women? WHITE women? The most stellar partner man has ever encountered in his timeline on earth?
HAHAAHAHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

*breathe in*

AHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhHAHAHHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH


white women are the absolute scum of the earth. white women should be removed before kikes and shitskins. the only reason not to kill off all white women is cause their womb is required. once we get artificial wombs then let the slaughter of the subhuman white whore begin

>>131326512
you're such a faggot

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>>131326490
The best partner the White man has ever had is the Japanese man. Not the white woman. Japan sided with Hitler. White women are one of our worst enemies as they receive all of the benefits of a white society while contributing nothing. At least Jap men and White men can fair trade with eachother, white women on the other hand will just moan and cry because they can't compete or co-operate with the white man.

>>131317825
How exactly influencing part of men will lower birth rates? Right now there are FEW TIMES LESS females fitting to be proper wife and mother than there are men who want them. You remove part of men (rather small one), quantity of proper families that create birthrate wont change.

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>>131326761
Beautifully put my friend. Remember that you need to beat a woman to keep her in line. They are like niggers, or young children. If they are not beaten, they get out of line.

>>131326490
>The most stellar partner man has ever encountered in his timeline on earth?

Are you fucking retarded m8? Are you seriously going to pretend that shrill harpies weren't working just as hard to undermine everything that made the West worthwhile?

They're trash, at this point, anon. There's very little left to save or redeem.

>>131326761
>*breathe in*
Are you old enough to post here?

White women, particularly blondes, in America and Europe score higher on tests than women overseas in any other country. Perhaps you're threatened?

>>131327219
bad connection there.

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>>131317825
Look, another dumb cunt, who's subscribed to styx, watched his latest vid and made yet another fucking mgtow thread.

Then change divorce, custody and especially alimony laws.

>>131327335
white women are shit you fucking retard.

jewish women and asian women destroy you subhuman trash. not only do asian and jewish have higher intelligence than you stupid white whores they also have in-group preference and never destroyed their civilization. asian men want to move up in status while subhuman white whores want to invite 60 iq shitskins to race mix with ruining their society. jewish women created all the doctrine subhumans like you believe about feminism but they never sold out their own jewish men. white whores are stupid scum.

you're also technically worse than even nigger and spic women cause they both have extremely strong in-group preference and are racially aware. white whores are like the dog that needs to get put down. you ruined white men's civilization and need to pay for it. don't worry though you will.

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>>131326986
Is this bait...? You realize German women are...white, right?

Also, if you're simultaneously MGTOW and NatSoc, I have bad news: http://www.historyonthenet.com/nazi-germany-role-of-women/

A man who has no desire for women is a faggot, and like a faggot, deserves fire.

>>131321507
Yes good goy, just give women more power, that's exactly what the jews want you to do

>>131327335
What are you talking about? your post makes no sense.

>>131327335
>age dig
>you threatened?!?!!

Spot the woman.

I guess it makes sense now why you accused guys disgusted by older women of being pedophiles and why you were adamant that women bore no blame.

>>131326986
Fukushima is the planet's worst disaster in forever

Fuck Japan

Next on /pol/: how Jews use deodorant to control your children's minds.

>>131327630
Women had nothing to do with importing slaves. The founding fathers were the ones who decided it would behoove them to trade with Jews and import nogs (to be fair, they didn't want to at first).

Men are also the ones who perpetuate equal opportunity wealth programs like the NFL. Men pay niggers millions of dollars every year to play a game while their own jobs are outsourced to Pajeets.

Couldn t land myself a virgin so i m mgtow . That s my reason . I will not waste my time with used stuff , if i want i can pay whores and have sex .

>>131327665
I have the desire to fuck a woman, Just one that I bought from a store in a cage, much like a pet. I can then do whatever the hell I want to my pet.

Women are not white btw, only men can be white. Women are parasitical niggers who are lucky they have sexuality to distract dumber white men from genociding their asses. If women were a race not a gender we would have killed them off a long time ago.

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STOP REPRODUCING, THAT'LL FIX ALL OF THIS, GOYIMS!

>>131317825
The continuation of the white race is the only reason I will get married. I have confirmed I have less than 1% Jewish blood. I consider it may my duty to have white children.

>>131327665
Turns out, the Nazis were wrong on women, m8.

Part of the justification for Hitler's :Lebensborn program was so that genetically healthy, unwed German women could give birth without shame. The Fascists who they drew inspiration were horribly sexually degenerate. Not just Mussolini and his mistresses, either. Promiscuity and "hookup culture" were a cornerstone of early the early squadristi. The futurists in Fiume under D'Annunzio, the proto-Fascists, were just as bad, what with their drug-fuelled orgies.

The only people to get sexuality right were the Victorians and puritans.

>>131327524
man what a loser. how much of a fucking do you need to be to make an anti-mgtow video. even jordan peterson had to apologize to mgtow and says he understands it.

this faggot styx is the total cuckold skirt worshiping beta male that allows women to fuck up society. m'ady cucks and white women need to get removed from this earth.

>>131327953
niggers are niggers. they're completely incapable of doing anything by themselves and the biggest threat to america isn't niggers either you fucking bitch. the biggest threat is from the millions of spics who come here every year and the white whore trash that loves brown immigrants. the nigger population is the same while the spic population has increased 16% and will go to 40% in the futurue

>>131328087
>Thinking birthrates will fix America.

Holy shit you're fucking dumb, m8.

>>131327787
I'm not.

You did say that it was unfair to blame all Jews, then proceeded to blame women solely for the decline of society.

The older woman in the picture is pretty attractive. She might be a whore, but if she truly revolts you, would I be completely wrong in assuming that you're either a pedo/hebephile or a homosexual?

Would you disagree that most convicted child molesters would name "purity", "innocence" as being qualities they highly valued in their victims...?

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>>131317825
I also love how MGTOWs band together like hens in a sewing club. It's about the most feminine, cucked male movement imaginable.

Guarantee one week of lifting will cure any MGTOW.

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>>131327733
So we change the court system. Men at this point haven't even tried. Meanwhile I'll find a qt, have her sign a prenup and have a family.

>>131317825
> 90% of MGTOWs are just dudes who dont even know about MGTOW
Mgtow happened naturally. Its time we recognise it. MGTOW isn't by choice - if finding a woman and getting married was possible MGTOW would do that.
We need mens right advocates

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>>131326986
~55% of white women voted for Trump. Knock out single women, and the number is basically equal to the male figure.

>>131327630
>its a virgin MGTOW loses his shit (again) episode

typical.

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>>131317825
It isn't a plot to lower the white birth rate, it's a reaction to oppressive economic and social conditions that have isolated a lot of men and make them uncertain how to proceed, or whether or not to proceed at all.

Stop thinking everything is a fucking plot, a lot of it is a reaction to bad economic conditions. As well as, you know, bitter men getting a audience thanks to the internet. They've always been out there, just never had a way of voicing it.

>>131328520
That still does not mean women should vote. Also the women who voted for trump were all old.

>>131328299
I never said it's unfair to blame all Jews, I said it's unfair to put the entirety of the blame on Jews as a group, and not dole out some percentage of the blame to other parties.

Do you have trouble reading?

Nor am I blaming the entirety of women. Like I mentioned, there are ~15% of women ages 18-22 that are virgins, and thus are actually worthwhile for marriage. The rest of them aren't worthy of marriage and have all negatively impacted society with their poor choices.

The older woman has horrible facial composition, is somewhat overweight, has tacky hair, and is wearing a choker. Sorry, that's not attractive.

With regard to what pedophiles find attractive, I couldn't say, I'm not one, and I've never found the subject interesting enough to look into.

>>131328319
Yes, Lifting weights will roll back the sexual revolution, turn women into virgins, roll back no-fault divorce, establish paternal custody again, restructure family courts, etc.

>>131328319
>Guarantee one week of lifting will cure any MGTOW

I've been lifting for 5 years, m8

>>131328520
55%? Oh man. Were that a test score, it'd be a fucking F.

Regardless, single women are a problem, considering ~40% of millennial women are projected to not get married even once.

>>131328596
Here is how you should proceed in life, and always be single.

1. Get Job and make money
2. Invest money in the market
3. Reitire young
4. Spend money on buying a hoe
5. Fuck her and then kill her
6. But her body into a bathtub and fill with concrete
7: wait till concrete dries then dump the block into the nearest river.

Voila, societies woman problem will be solved soon enough

>>131328939
>Invest money in the market
I always see this memeadvice but how do I go about it

>>131328259
The white whore trash that loves brown immigrants...? There are more men than women that write policy. There are also more men than women who head unions, and own restaurants, and own vineyards that benefit from importing cheap labor than women.

Even if you make your decisions and form opinions based off of strong emotions, the people who are browning America aren't. They're thinking about their money.

Also, keep in mind that they're only here because of policies enacted by Barack Obama and George W. Bush. Men, elected and re-elected by the majority of other men.

>>131322816
This.
The majority of what I've seen on 4chan is men blaming others for everything. Jews, niggers, women. No one takes responsibility here. It's funny when female promiscuity is brought up and is told that it destroys western nations. What about male promiscuity? What effect has that had?

>>131329005
I have some Government bonds, a collection of stocks in the S&P500 and Dow Jones, also I say put about 5% of your portfolio in gold. 5 years out of college and investing about 10k a year I have 65K in investments already.

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>>131328939
>Fuck her and then kill her

>>131328808
...and what's the percentage for men?

You demand that women simultaneously be submissive, yet guide and push men themselves? What do you want from women, exactly?

Also, keep in mind that virginal women have always been pretty rare. It was just easier to fake back in the day.

>>131329305
Just cleaning up society. Feel free to do this to niggers as well

>>131329414
>wants to fuck nigger

Enjoy AIDS

>>131329154
when trump wants to ban brown immigrants who are the trash on the streets protesting? it's 70% white whore women and then 30% browns and white nu-males. what's the face of the "resistance" it's white whore women marching cause they're subhumans that never work or do anything worthwhile in society so they can march all the time. did these fucking trash ever march against obama and all the shit he did? nah, just the white male trump. you're traitors and will be punished for it.


you're a fucking piece of shit who only loves your subhuman sisterhood and that's why ALL women need to be removed. you're collectivist trash down to the core without an ounce of real intelligence. people say gooks can only copy, but that's white women. at gooks have enough actual intelligence not to brown their society with 10 million refuges to virtue signal. white whores don't even have that much brains.

artificial wombs+sexbots = white roasties are going into the garbage bin of history

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>Bitter pathetic men complaining about women thread.

Take it to >>>/rk9/

The Jew makes it Legal and illigal.

But I will not fell.

You will read to me Mein Kemf while I sleep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDOPHZC936c
Death to all Jews, Christians in solidrity with You know who.

>>131329838
>dumb roastie cunt can't into 4chin commands

the thread was started by a bitter thot, you projecting chlamydia ridden dumb bitch. every single fucking day the same thread by anxious roasties and some exceptionally retarded motherfuckers

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>>131328520
The gap has never been wider during the last election cycle; stop lying roastie. Women's suffrage was a mistake.

>>131329706
Perhaps if gooks imported slaves they would have had options besides Sun Gods and communism. There's a bright side to international trade, even if it means shackling browns up.

Have you ever considered the images you see on television don't actually represent white women? Have you ever considered the twenty SJW harpies CNN is showing you (to please their demographic as well as to piss off their controlled opposition [>you]) don't represent the ideas of women as a whole? Have you ever realized that, for better or for worse, women are typically the family members who enforce religious morality in their communities?

Why don't you think a Good Woman would want you...? You're so afraid of Good Women you can't even fathom entertaining that they exist. She who shall not be named.

It says enough that you've made me into your boogey(wo)man. What, pray tell, is "real" intelligence? A white man with COPD, a beer in hand, slumped in his chair watching niggerball?

>>131319593
>divorce rape
You don't have to marry a women to be committed to her for life, but I am aware that in some cases the women gets money in court after x years of cohabitation without marriage too. I guess it depends on where you live.
>some child you don't want
If you don't want kids, get a vasectomy, although if you live in a shit country like mine and can't get one unless you're more than 40 years old, you're pretty fucked, since most forms of birth control have side effects. You can always just get an abortion as a last measure though, assuming she doesn't change her mind.
>that may not even be yours
You can just get a paternity test.
>false rape accusation
If you want to avoid that, you have to become celibate, and not just MGTOW. Hell, not even celibacy will protect you from some random bitch accusing you of raping her, since it can't be proven that a man is a virgin. Besides, the whole issue is blown out of proportion, this is the least likely thing to happen to you off all the things you mentioned

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>>131329403
63%, given the population spread, it would have been a landslide.

>You demand that women simultaneously be submissive, yet guide and push men themselves? What do you want from women, exactly?
I've never suggested women guide men, I'm only suggesting women keep their fucking legs closed, so that men have worthwhile incentives to participate in society.

>Also, keep in mind that virginal women have always been pretty rare. It was just easier to fake back in the day.

Literally false, and the fact that you're saying this betrays your massive ignorance on the subject. Quit gaslighting history, you fucking mong.

We have data from back then, data that's skewed AGAINST the point I'm making, that shows women losing their virginity to their husbands at a much higher percentage compared to modern times.

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>>131330522
>Have you ever realized that, for better or for worse, women are typically the family members who enforce religious morality in their communities?

Not true anymore. I've attended a handful of churches in a town notorious for hardline evangelism. Every chick I met at the youth and young adult groups have been non-virgins.

One even tried to shame me for dropping her with the whole "God forgives me, we're all sinners" routine.

>>131317825
Mgtow is stupid.

But mostly disregarding women until you finish your education and establish a career is beneficial for most.
As is being confident I'm and firm in your moral principles and not conforming to suit a woman when she will conform 90/10 to suit a man she sees as a strong partner.

>>131330522
>A white man with COPD, a beer in hand, slumped in his chair watching niggerball?
you will never be equal to men roastie. you're like niggers and other subhumans which simply are not on the level of white men so you're jealous and resent them. white men built everything in this fucking world you piece of shit. you've got plumbing, air conditioning, food, and life because of white men roastie bitch. the only thing women contributed to society is their womb and the destruction of it.

this just goes to prove my point. white whores are angry that they're inferior trash and white men landed on the moon. you try and rationalize it like niggers by blaming white men and wanting to destroy them and replace them. white whores are the biggest fucking enemy of white men around cause shitskins, kikes, and others don't have enough voting power while white whore women do and they're even more subhuman


the worst aspects of niggers, kikes, and communist combined give you white women.

>>131319721
White women also raised their sons to be useless or too emotionally stunted to become real men. Too many men don't want the responsibility of a job or family and this was before divorce rape was a thing (and why it came about).

>>131330633
Where are you getting the 63%? I'm only finding 53% everywhere.

Also, female midwives reported hymen status. You think they never once lied? http://www.historyundressed.com/2015/02/medieval-virginity-testing-and.html

>>131317825
>This is nothing more than another subversive Jewish trick.

The same thing is happening in Japan without Jewish tricks.
It is just reaction to society tolerating, subsidizing and rewarding the whoring behavior of women with feminist social policies.
No-fault divorce is the destruction of foundation of society.
There can be no equality between external (male) and internal (female) procreation.

>>131331187
>(and why it came about).
fucking retard. it became a thing cause white whores hate men for being better than them and they're always looking for better meal ticket.

>>131322425
>16 average for losing virginity

For blacks it's mostly age 9-12, usually by men over 18. And commonly by family and friends of family.
And distinctly lower for those of other races that live in heavily black neighborhoods.

>>131322425
Except very few men care about finding a virgin, since most men are just as degenerate as women, so the odds aren't that bad. Besides, it may not work on a mass scale, but you, as an individual, can get a good one for yourself if you're not fucked up physically or mentally and put in some effort, since most of your competition won't.

>>131322816
>>131329193
>why is it ok chads to sleep around, but not me?
t. triggered roasties

Do you sluts honestly thinking MGOTW are sleeping around? Most of them are virgins, yet due to the apex fallacy women keep pointing at Chads to justify their behavior.

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>>131317825
I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't have the common sense to find a good women.
Do you people not know how to judge people based on how they act? You can't tell if someone is lying or using you? It isnt hard to determine someones motives just by talking to them for awhile. I just don't get it. I mean unless you are young as shit. which you shouldn't be worried about any of this to begin with if you are.

>>131331341

MGTOW is just angry resignation at having been selected out of the gene pool. That's why there's all this hate towards white women--white women have been, since time immemorial, the most desired mates by the most powerful men around the world.

>>131331773
you sound like a bitter button dick there lad.

>>131331944
pretty much.

>>131329838
>that blue-pilled tradcuck screencap

>>131331848
>I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't have the common sense to find a good women.
>Do you people not know how to judge people based on how they act?

As we all know, women don't change year by year, especially not when they are in a relationship or married.

>>131331848
>common sense to find a good women
Common sense today would be to avoid women altogether.
The probability of finding a good woman is very low. So why bother.

>>131331848
>to find a good women.
How do you sluts keep constantly fucking it up? It's a womAn. Or womyn, that sounds strong and empowered

>>131322425
>>131322425
Those 15% are the completely unfuckable ones; The morbidly obese, the physically handicapped, the developmentally disabled, and the maimed.

>>131326017
Quite a nose on that fellow........

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>>131331848
>good women

Oh you poor naive man

>>131331234
53% is the total % of men that voted for Trump. Nonwhite men bring that down significantly.

I'm not talking about virginity in the times of midwives, I'm talking about the 40s-70s era, back when we actually started collecting data.

Look into a guy by the name of Dr. Alfred Kinsey. He was a pioneer into "sexology," and compiled data on the sexual habits of Americans. His works include "Sexual Behavior in the Human Male," "Sexual Behavior in the Human Female," and "The Kinsey Reports."

Essentially, Kinsey conducted studies on the number of partners, age at which virginity was lost, whether or not people lost their virginity within marriage or even to their eventual spouse, etc.

Now, Kinsey's work sparked interest and controversy (partially because his work suggested a more sexually active America than had otherwise been thought).

The problem with Kinsey's work, and later studies stretching into the 70s which borrowed heavily from his methodology (It was picked apart by an academia that, at the time, still had intellectual credibility), is that he oversampled promiscuous groups and used dishonest labeling.

Kinsey oversampled homosexuals, criminals convicted of sexual offenses, and sex abuse victims, all of those groups being far more promiscuous than normal.

He redefined the term "married" to include people living with someone of the opposite gender for over a year. There are actual cases of prostitutes living with their pimps being passed off as housewives.

His work also relied solely on volunteers, a later Stanford study found that volunteers are ~2-4 times more promiscuous than the average person.

Now looking at Kinsey's work (which is skewed to paint a picture of sexual excess that doesn't exactly sync up with reality), and contrasting it with data on modern sexual habits, we see that the number of people losing their virginity to their eventual spouse has plummeted.

>>131331944

Not really.
Japanese herbivore men are not angry.
They are just disconnecting from society that does not offer them rewards for participating.
And that is the the same MGTOW is.
Men (builders and maintainers of the human hive) are walking of away from the parasite infested human hive.
Promiscuous woman is a parasite in the human hive that the slut shaming instinct and the religious codes were meant to drive away.

>>131331527
I'm trying. I look decent, I know how to talk to women, but I can't find any and I've been falling for the church meme.

Haven't stopped, of course, but It's looking increasingly likely that it might not happen for me.

>>131317825

"When in doubt, blame it on the jews."

this is why i can't take the alt right seroiously

>>131331944
Very wrong

I get laid more now that I'm MGTOW

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>>131317825
I'm pretty sure not reforming the divorce laws is literally the cause of lowered white birth rates.

Fight divorce courts--not MGTOW.

>>131333272
Except it's not alt right at all, it's the same canuck/burger anxious angry loser sluts, who probably watch certain youtubers way too much, but since they're inherently irreversibly retarded and can't comprehend the causality of things, they automatically blame both men and kikes for ruining their alimony checks.

>>131331773
Actually a male. Nice try dipshit. I've got myself a girl but I don't look down upon other women enjoying themselves. Nor do I look down upon men who want to make sure the person they are going to commit themselves to is a virgin if that's the same standard they hold for themselves.

>>131323437
>implying you have no control over your kids' spouse's values
You don't
50% of personality is made entirely by the genes and the rest by outside home enviroment

>>131323376
Having an effect over society may be a bonus, but our primal objective is to warn and help fellow men whose lives may be ruined by modern women

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>>131332990
>Men (builders and maintainers of the human hive) are walking of away from the parasite infested human hive
That says a lot about their ability to MAINTAIN, doesn't it?

But hey, lets blame the parasites for not having the decency of not being parasites and walk away instead. Surely the problem will solve itself.

MGTOW is self-victimizing defeatism.

>>131334252
this guy gets it.

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>>131334252
What's your solution? I'm all ears.

I suspect following your answer will land me in prison.

>INB4 just be an charismatic alpha viking

>>131334549
The Fingolian anon said it himself.

>slut shaming instinct
>religious codes

Who walked away from those in the first place?

These threads always have 2 kinds of retards
>Autistic losers who think all women are sub-100 IQ BLACKED sluts, so that they can have justification to continue being pathetic
AND
>Autistic larpers who think that the former catagory should actually be BREEDING for some reason because hurr muh white race

>>131322442
>save duh white race

No.

>>131334894
answer the fucken question--what legal actions can I take to help maintain white birth rates and the nuclear family?

>>131335426
>legal actions
What do you need legal actions for? Are you afraid of marrying a slut and getting divorced?

Again, you failed to MAINTAIN the hive, it's infested with parasites. And now you have to start from zero, because even your own judicial system is against you.

Fortunately though, MGTOW provides you with a plethora of excuses not to bother with rebuilding your culture and society.

Become MGTOW

poke holes in all condoms

Ggwp jews

>>131336317
You criticize MGTOW yet provide literally no alternatives.

MGTOW is essentially men, who were already being ignored by women, going "hey I didn't want any of you anyway!".

>>131322425
The 15 % are probably too ugly or fatties

>>131336625
I can provide one, but you probably won't like it.

In my view, the structural integrity of western society is damaged beyond repair. It's an old building that needs to be demolished as soon as possible. Walking away isn't a solution, but you do need to step away from a building that's about to collapse. That is to say, if most of the people who subscribe to the MGTOW ideology had the initiative to gather and start working on that project, you would see changes in no time.

Then again, as I said, MGTOW is self-victimizing defeatism, so no wonder that isn't happening and all you see are beta nu-males whining on anonymous imageboards.

>>131337667
That is a nonsense non answer saying nothing in a lot of words.

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>>131337667
Nice words but no concrete and/or actionable solutions. Great job.

>>131317825
The type of people attracted to MGTOW were never going to have children anyways. These are beta-male, 25+ year old virgins who do nothing but play video games and watch anime all day and don't have jobs, basically children themselves. Nobody who isn't a virgin would ever (((go their own way)))

>>131338135
>>131338142
Your problem is that you're almost certainly spoiled children who want everything laid out for you, and all you can think about is how poorly treated you are by sluts and how you can't find a good pussy to marry and have children.

But this isn't just about pussy, we're talking about societal collapse and you can't build a new society out of thin air. When I suggest gathering and working on a project I mean you need a community. Unless you organize yourselves and work towards the same objectives, nothing will ever happen.

Society WILL collapse and (((someone))) WILL build a new one that might be even worse for you. Then you'll blame everyone but yourselves for your lack of vision.

>>131338973
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How can you just hate women? Why do people think I support suffrage and womens' rights...? I do not. MGTOW is still fucking retarded. What the fuck does it mean "JUST REMOVE ALL WOMEN"? Do you want to be a fucking homosexual or celebate? Are these trolls, or just actually spastic autists........!?!?!??!?