Welfare in the US

>>131306819
Then immigration to the US would dramatically decrease.
Black population would decrease.
Crime would go down since there are less immigrants and blacks.
I don't know about Native Americans...maybe they become extinct?

>>131306819
Less immigration, growth of churches and charity organisations to deal with poverty, communities would end up helping each other, our native poor would start to do jobs which immigrants were doing, some people would die though from starvation or turn to crime where they wouldn't had otherwise I suspect.

>>131307643
>Crime would go down
Gibs or no gibs, you gotta eat. If welfare stop, buy all the food you can afford and turn your house into a bunker because for a year or two there will be a civil war.

>>131308662
I'm sure there would be some blowback after removing the welfare estate. However, eventually things would stabilize again and people would be better for it.

Your post reminds me, i should start stockpiling emergency food though.

>>131306819

it would be a redistribution of wealth to the top 1%

Molyneux and libertarian clowns would defend it to the death

>>131306819
A year or so of turbulence since all of a sudden everyone who got a free meal ticket has no meal, and then once the initial discomfort phase ends everything works out.

>>131307643
Violent crime would increase. It's anyone's guess how long it would last before it went down, but in the meantime it would cripple the economy and force anyone earning money to live in a bunker. Of course many more people would lose their jobs because of the effects on society so there would be even more people out in the streets looking to steal and kill just to eat. Good luck guarding stores with food in them. Good luck working in such places. Good luck owning such businesses. You'd need the army to guard grocery stores. Trucks transporting goods would be attacked all the time. It would be mayhem and cripple society.

If people have nothing to eat, they have nothing to lose.

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People would riot, then tire themselves out, then procrastinate [I don't want to work] some would starve to death and ultimately the rest would confront reality and just get a job.
>>131309780
I doubt I they would get very violent, for long, people like guns, and when the law is out the window people will not be impartial to shooting niggers. No need to hunker down, its not the end wot the world.
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>>131307643
It's all for the best, if anyone actually cared for this country and its people they would end welfare immediately. Actually they should make welfare accessible to only US citizens, and force illegals to rely on charity vs the state.

>>131307643
>>131308479
>>131308662
>>131308873
>>131309084
>>131309780

Is it a good idea? Do the ends justify the means?

>>131310959
agreed, prob 1 million dead in sudden burst of violence and revenge attacks. army would sort and everyone get tired and start begging, or get jobs

>>131311196
It would be more criminal to allow the welfare estate to continue unless you want more crime, single-mother raised children, higher divorce rates, etc.

>>131306819
Riots. Crime goes up. More poverty and homeless.

Less single moms though. Even less whores if you ban abortion and birthcontrol pills.

>>131311196
What's wrong with the means?

All it is is getting rid of a problem that only existed because of a bigger problem. If you knock the hornet's nest out from under your eaves the hornets go nuts, then fuck off. The nest should have never been there to begin with, but you have to deal with the problem of the hornets going crazy because you allowed the nest to form.

>>131306819
offer a program that trades state sponsored work for pay and benefits?

40 million Americans rely on food stamps so the Hunger Games will come into fruition

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>>131311841
Nothing IMO but I'm not trying to inject my opinion ITT

>>131311196
>Is it a good idea?
Hell yes. It's stupid to give that amount of power to the government in the first place. Autonomy is worth valuing. Plus, the people who really are desperate will always have charities to rely on. People will be incentivised to not be dumb parasites and help each other out. It's a win-win for everyone except the big parasites at the top (government).

>>131306819
Just look at other failed socialist states

Hint its not good for a while

>>131306819
whites would be fucked

>>131307643
The vast majority of immigrants don't come here to get welfare though

They end up on welfare because whites hire jimbo and cleatus over them 99% of the time

>>131306819
>*BYE BYEEE!!!! BYE BYE!*?
Kill yourself faggot. Or rephrase your question in a way that doesn't make me think you like being anally fisted you fucking retard.

>>131311480

complete myth

how many middle class white women get divorced to go on welfare?

get real

>>131312298
>>131312395
You are ignorant. Many of them end up on welfare because it's a lot easier than getting a job. Humans will naturally gravitate to live as easily as possible.

>>131312467
In the US, about half of marriages end in divorce. Many divorce laws benefit women in this day and age; thereby, no consequences for divorce means women will not be as hesitant to consider divorce.

Check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6r3B9RU8IA

>>131309780
Goddamn you euros are so conditioned to having government be your daddy. Nigs would just go back to work. Food charities would pop up for Nigs with huge broods of kids who can't work.

Well I'd be definetly be stealing a lot more shit. Tell you that much.

>I'm white btw

Sam pls go full white nationalist. We need you.

>>131312298
Not really. Only cities in California, and other major minority nests like New York or Miami would turn into third

>>131312467
Its not that,

They don't pay attention to who they marry that much, because they can always fall back on the state.
They don't give it a best shot to make it work, because they can fall back on the state.

The problem is at some point the "safety net" becomes a incentive for divorce. And bad decisions, women don't need a patriarch, they are always safe anyway

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>>131306819
>What would realistically happen if welfare went *BYE BYEEE!!!! BYE BYE!

Riots

>>131313060
We'd kill your poor ass for stealing. No more degenerate, no problem.

>>131313800
> yea i will just kill everyone hehe

t. fat 18year old

>>131306819
LOOOOOOOTIIIIIIIING!!

A brotha's gotta eat know what I'm sayin' brah?

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Gilded age 2.0.
Don't let a failed philosopher/cult leader shape your world view. Anarcho capitalism exists in a fucking vacuum. It's like communism in a sense. It ignores context, and then paints what context it admits to as "class warfare" instead of what it is, which is the harmonious meshing and problem solving of an organic society. "We've got people selling margarine with the boiled fat of a cooked plant worker in it, what are we going to do? We're going to put a bunch of safety restrictions on the packaging industry and pay people to go to factories and inspect conditions. Nyc's a slum and everyone is throwing garbage and shit everywhere? We're going to use treasury money to clean this place and put in a sewer. We want a free market, but these people working hard, skilled, dangerous jobs are getting paid pennies because they're replaceable with other desperate people? We're going to let them organize and require employers to go to the negotiating table with them." That's not all done for the sake of some "ism". It's just the common sense solution to problems we had back then.
The social problem that Trump has to deal with is outsourcing to worse societies, and the solution to "that" isn't going to be the fucking hand of the free market either.
We'll have service industry automation after that, as well as the full weight of the debt-filled burden that is your average American Gender Studies/Philosophy/Psych major. The solution to that is going to be a total overhaul on public education. New York is currently the experimenting ground for socialized college, and the result of it will be the government learning that we can have a system like that, IF we take a page out of Germany's book and limit any degree program that doesn't have a market demand to our best and brightest students.

Or the free movement of bitcoins will exert its invisible influence and magically fix all of these things. One or the other.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q8BLfefGtg

When the Stef began to hate

>>131306819
The whole society would collapse for a oligarchic dystopya, because the inherently flawed system we know as capitalism wouldnt be balanced out anymore by foodstamp programs, affordable housing or medicaid.
People here tend to forget that above this employer wagecuck relationship humans still are social beings, so things wouldnt just "sort themselves out" but we would have the same problems like the europeans in the middleages, where a spoiled bunch of incompetent, entitled rich kids could make all the decisions while people born in poorer households would just struggle for survival their whole life.

>>131314700
>thinks Mememeux is an AnCap
Lad, he's a fascist. Read between the lines.
>>131313945
>implying killing violent criminals is somehow morally objectionable
Go back to San Diego.

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>>131314704
He's been coming unhinged recently. It's like he's one bad day from a mental breakdown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiiw3s9kpeo

>>131306819
Most of what would happen long run see:
>>131307643
>>131308479
howvever I can give a rundown timeline wise:

Week 1:
Immigration reverses, Mexicans leave in large numbers, many immigrants go to Canada for welfare
Black crime increases astronomically, at the same time the uptick in black crime leads to a surge in defensive shootings and militia based property defense. Black death rate increased
No welfare= no public housing, no food stamps, no medicaid. There are now no benefits to not working
Police and National Guard are on alert as looting has become rampant in black communities
Month1
Black deathrate has far outstripped the birthrate, single mothers and jobless blacks no longer reproducing, jobless families have starved their children
Among poor black women abortion has become common, as there is no father to provide for their child.
Black men begin to seek jobs as the militia/police/armed citizens have made robbery a zero sum game. The beginning of businesses reopening and capital flowing into black communities occurs again.
Year 1:
Black populace reduced by 50%. Mexicans and other non-americans largely have left save for business owners and productive individuals. Black neighborhoods have been depopulated but crime has become astronomically low. Houses and former housing projects are being demolished to build new infrastructure. Many blacks find employment in the construction industry at this time.
The abandonment of welfare has led to a decrease in taxes by a massive amount. White people's birthrates double.
Year 5:
Former welfare infested ghetto cities are becoming 'whited' as whites buy up land recently cleared to rebuild the cities from the ground up. The economy is growing and employment is extremely high. IQ on average is increasing as low IQ individuals are becoming too poor to have children. Black communities due to the requirement of working and having jobs have decreased crime, better homes and adopt the attitude of working hard.

>>131314704
Which podcast number was this?

>>131315296
Hes always rude and narcissistic on these calls

I mean he is always rude and narcissistic.

>>131315628
1488 I think?

Riots. After the rioters are imprisoned or executed you would have prosperity.

>>131306819
>>131315377
Year 10:
Black and White IQ gap is narrowing as the market disincentives low IQ births due to no safety net and a knowledge based market. Businesses are prospering and quality of life has increased. Black participation in the labour force is similar if not higher than the white population. Black entry to the middle class is at a higher rate than whites in general. Bit by bit the US is becoming a very nice place to live.

Now how do I know this would eventually be the reality? Because this what happened before the welfare state in the 1960's. Dr. Thomas Sowell studied this extensively. Sure cutting off the welfare state will lead to a year of strife but by god would there be sunny days after.

>>131307643

How would crime go down you moron ? Yes immigration would decrease. But the population of blacks(mexiniggers) would resort to crime to get more food and drugs. More robberies. More crime would happen. Have you ever seen brazil ? The bigger the divide between poor and rich the higher the crime rate.

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>>131306819
Crime would spike and might even spiral into a straight up race war because shitskins need their gibmedats. The parasites would die out eventually but they'd take a lot of innocents with them.

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>>131316133
>his solution is to feed them

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>>131315296
>He's been coming unhinged recently. It's like he's one bad day from a mental breakdown.

He's filled himself with terrible guests recently
>Posobiec (or however you spell it)
>Laura Loomer
>Ezra Levant

He's trying to network with the alternative media but it's already taken up by Shlomo.

>>131316408
It isn't rape if you just give your daughters to the blacks

>>131306819

There's always work for those willing to do hard work.

>>131306819
Why is/pol/ so triggered by welfare? Most welfare users are white people. (Yes i know a high ratio of blacks use welfare too)

>>131315296
He's turning into Pekka Siitoin 2.0.

Riots and total collapse

>>131316937
>triggered
where? spotted the NEET.

>>131316592
Stef is autistic in his pursuit of truth, his only solution is to move towards TRS and Radical Agenda. He has moved so far away from pure ANCAP. I guarantee he has read Rothbard and Hoppe and they were very far right and he loves Solzhenitsyn so he may have read 200 Years Together. Can't wait for the Merchant Minute on Stef's podcast

>>131307643
>Black population would decrease.

Retards unironically believe this. South Africa has practically a non-existent welfare system in affect, but niggers there still breed like crazy and have super high rates of single-parent homes (like fucking 50%+). Niggers are naturally accustomed to poverty and relative destitution. When you suggest taking away welfare from them will make them more upstanding and responsible, you're assuming as if they were white. Truth is that taking away welfare from them is at best is just better fiscal planning on the Government level.

>>131317495
>South Africa
>Population explosion not subsidized entirely by "humanitarian relief" gibs
Choose one.

>>131317495
The UN and White South Africans just cannot stop feeding them. The remaining whites are still holding the treads together

Is Medicare and Medicaid welfare? Is elderly welfare "welfare"?

>>131319835
everyone knows "welfare" is a dog whistle phrase dumbass

>>131317271
He has changed since this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o2eKaELGMY

Hard times create strong men.
Strong men create good times.
Good times create weak men.
Weak men create hard times.

It's the cycle of life and Welfare is disrupting it, and thus you have the degeneracy our society now exhibits. When the riots wane (FEMA camps), then we will have strong men (survivors).

>>131306819
Chimpouts in every brown neighborhood.

>>131316018
>best of times
>worst of times
BY Jove we've got a winrar!

Security stocks would jump up