Evolution does not exist

Dead like dodos

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We wuz tyranasuarus Rex n shieet.

>>131284467
>You're alive, your friends are alive but your great grandparents are dead
>this means your great grandparents didn't actually exist

The american education system ladies and gentlemen

For the 100 millionth fucking time, we did not evolve from chimps, we share a common ancestor with chimps. There's no forms between the two of us. Only forms between them and the common ancestor we shared, and like the forms between us and the common ancestor, as well as the common ancestor itself, they all died because survival of the fittest dictated that new beneficial traits would be passed on and old ones would be lost as conditions changed.

>>131284467
My American brother. That's an embarrassing lack of interpretive cognitive skills on your part.
The Theory of Evolution does not state we evolved from a living Primate such as the one in your pic.
It states that we share a common ancestor with that Primate in your picture.
Think of it like a Tree, we're a branch, that Chimp is a branch, and the Trunk is our common Ancestor.
I'm beginning to think that this is willful ignorance rather than pure stupidity. If not, I'm losing faith in my brothers.

>>131284467
>USA! USA! WE WUZ ADAM N EVE N SHEEIT!

>>131285040
>my parents are dead
>my parents didn't exist
>I don't exist
>mfw

>>131285040

Actually, the educational system in Europe is dumbed-down considerably. Quite easy to make look like everyone is :smart" when you give everyone high grades regardless of whether or not they do the work isn't it?

If our educational system is so bad, then why are all of you dumb shits coming here for an education? Many Europeans get rejected from Ivy League schools because they are too fucking stupid. Enjoy your inferior "dumbed down" European education.

Many scientist are starting to see that Darwinian Evolution has too many flaws.

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>>131285374
>theory of evolution
>theory
If it's true why is it not considered a law/fact?

>>131285668
bait, but see "theory of gravity" for how the term is used in science

>>131285668
When a theory is disproven it stops being a theory. But if it's never disproven it will always be a theory. A scientific theory doesnt mean what it means when you're using everyday language. You kike worshippers are so fucking retarded.

>>131284467
Every form in between survived also.
They live in Africa.

>>131284467
>Evolution does not exist

t. turk

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>>131284467

>>131284467
Whats the alternative to evolution?

Burger education.

We did not evolve from chimpanzees, we evolved from a common ancestor, chimpanzees are about as old as we are as a species. The links are there, there are only missing links in certain hypothesis'

Hypothesis is an idea, with evidence, but not yet proven. A theory in the scientific community is fact, untill proven otherwise.

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>>131284467
>lemme see if I got this correct
no, ya didn't

>>131285246
It's bait ffs. Do not engage.

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>>131286180
So where is the proof for human evolution? I wouldn't consider a handful of shattered monkey skull fragments proof of anything but that seems to be the entire basis of human evolution theory.

>>131284467
If heaven is real, and hell is real. Which religion gets in? Which variation of Christianity? What if I didn't use the King James Version of the Bible? What if op wasn't a massive faggot?

Club X nigga.

>>131285668
I'm not here to argue for or against it.
I'm just stating your understanding of what it Theorizes is plebeian, simple, and possibly the result of willful ignorance.

>>131286216
checked niggas

>>131285631
Care to give some examples of facts and scientists that find these flaws in evolution?

>>131285040

>THIS

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The burger education meme is fucking real

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The other forms died off because they genetically no longer exist due to mutations and drift and thus they are extinct species.

>>131284889
>not having seen a chicken run before
>not having had a chicken make its home in your flower pot
Why even live desu?

>>131286703
It's called the fosssil records. By using carbon dating, there have been similar looking skeletons that get more similar to modern humans the younger they are, and more similar to apes the older they are. Scientists have been able to connect different skeletons due to the age and characteristics, such as brain size and how tall/upright they are

>>131284467
Over thousands of years of selective breeding no new species or genera have been created.
Multiple species can be hybridized, but rearranging genetic material doesn't make a new kind of organism.
The number of intermediate forms required to select thru billions of possible combinations would be orders of magnitude larger than earth's biomass.
So the concept of linear descent or tree of life is an oversimplified concept for mass consumption.

>>131286499

Yeah, that's what the evolution supporting asshats in the scientific community try to do. Exploit and loopholes in logic and then declare their claims as "fact." In truth, Darwinian Evolution is missing a lot of evidence. There are no "in betweens" in the fossil record. NONE. They do not exist. This is easy to debunk, yet this bullshit is taught in our schools.

Evolution does not exist. It's all a big bunch of complete and utter bullshit.

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>>131287674
>this modern animal looks kind of similar to that one prehistoric animal fossil we found
>one must have gradually changed into the other over millions of years
That sounds like the more idiotically simple theory to me. Obviously animals appearances change over time but one species transforming into another entirely different species is total bullshit.

Pic related, supposedly this fish was one of our (((shared ancestors))) until they discovered they still exist today.

>>131287981
>they died off because they no longer exist
You should be a logician.

>>131288179
have you ever heard of a place called The Smithsonian

>>131285040
We have witnesses who have seen our great grandparents. Literally the weakest fucking argument i have ever seen. Explain the millions of different animals it took to go from a fish to a reptile buddy, show the evidence of that or just shut your mouth because you sound like a complete fucking moron.

>>131288139

Where are all of the four legged bat fossils? Where are all of the gilled alligator fossils? Where are the "in betweens?" They do not exist. There are none.

Evolution is real. However, the explanations where all the species alive today have originated from doesnt make sense. The links arent there.

>if dogs are decended from wolves then why are there still wolves

Ask your chihuahua you mental midget

>>131288275
>Anarchist cutting up my words and putting things out of context
>Tripfag as well
As expected honestly

I love how these posts pop up from time to time to remind me that the retarded inbred hick american meme is not actually a meme but real life.

Occupy space through the length of time

Speciation through time

According to the space you occupy

>>131288464

Wolves and dogs are technically the same species. There are very little differences between the two. Wolves can be domesticated and eventually have different color of coats, floppy ears, and spots. So what? Can a dog transform into a fucking unicorn?

>>131284467
Between your ears

>>131288197
Isn't it nice how scientific explanation "evolves" rather than being stuck in dogmatic beliefs thousands of years old.

Ps the earth is flat

>>131285631
>burger has never heard of PISA studies.

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People waste time, energy and mental capacity on this shit

To every person in this thread who denies evolution.
For the sake of human intellect and knowledge, please go and educate yourself on evolution. It's honestly sad seeing people showing such ignorance.

>>131288708
Modern wolves are not the same as ancient remains either implying that the common ancestor is guess what?

Do you have a better theory and can you back it up with facts

>>131288646

Ad hominems do not answer the question. Where are all of the missing pieces? You don't know do you? It's pretty fucked how shit like this is being taught, yet nobody has any evidence as to whether or not it is even real.

>>131286703
One thing that might help is if you read some evolutionary theory. Not shit from the internet. Not a pamphlet your pastor gave you. Some actual books about evolution. If you think:

>a handful of shattered monkey skull fragments proof of anything but that seems to be the entire basis of human evolution theory

Then you don't understand anything about this subject and really, really shouldn't mouth off as if you know something.

Fucking summerfags I swear.

>>131288333

How do we know that their existence isn't fabricated? Exactly, you don't. Now shut your fucking face you stupid moron :^)

>offspring gets a mix of their parents dna
>mutations happen
>Different genes give different attributes
>Different attributes give different probabilities to survive and procreate

If all these are true then evolution is true.

>>131288835

Evolution is not fact. Get over it.

>>131288974
>Where are all of the missing pieces?

Such as?

>>131288360
There are literally thousands of transitional species known from the fossil record and living nature. Most famous example is the horse, we've had a complete sequence of forms evolving to modern horses for many many decades. More recently we have a very detailed picture of the early evolution of whales from cow-like creatures.

>>131284467
Actually modern apes genocided all the other monkeys in Africa except the island of Madagascar

>>131288179
>There are no "in betweens" in the fossil record. NONE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_evolution_fossils

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>>131288549
I'll happily quote the whole thing.
>The other forms died off because they genetically no longer exist due to mutations and drift and thus they are extinct species

>>131289124

Unless we can have video evidence of ALL our our ancestors fucking and reproducing, without any cuts or edits....following every human being from current day back until they are microbes...we can't really say for SURE that evolution is real.

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>>131284467
First off, your pic seems to imply that we evolved from apes that we have around today. But in evolutionary theory both apes and humans evolved from a more primitive common ancestor. You might still mean the latter however and just have picked this picture to represent your theory, so I'll just give you that.

Second, the other forms in between ape and human didn't die off. They evolved into humans. The other forms of human-like branch-offs such as Neandertals died off from various other problems or changes in the climate. But even if we have no evidence for why they died off, that still provides no evidence against evolution.

>>131284467
They are called niggers.

>>131284467
Australia

>>131289041

None of this proves that one species can transform into something else. A mutation cannot make a dog grow wings. Mutations can lead to disease and defects such as some of the defected brains of people who support evolution itself, but does not prove that monkeys will eventually grow a pair of gills and become marine mammals.

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Reminder pic related

Spread it to every thread

>>131289257
This shit honestly never ceases to amaze. They are too stupid to type "transitional fossils" into a search engine.

>>131289332

Why do you waste your time posting this shit bait?

niggers still exist though

creationcucks BTFO

>>131289272

Then we should be able to found their fossils. Thus far, we have found next to NOTHING.

>>131288974
Nobody has any evidence. Are you serious? Do you think the stars are also chariots riding through the heavens, or are you stuck where they are distant bodies orbiting around the earth.

There is much evidence and guess what as more comes to light the theory might change or even be thrown out completely. But chances are it won't be with one that has absolutely zero evidence

>>131289504

Waiting for some stuff to finish downloading.

OP must be muslim.

>>131289233
Considering that there were millions or billions of mutations, each needing to be selected, there should be an equal number of intermediates.
99.999% of the fossil record should be intermediates, if they existed.
It may not be obvious..

>>131284467
Why don't you go help find the missing pieces?

>>131289403
What the fuck am I reading? Is this just disinformation to discredit /pol/ and cast us as ignorant?

Sage every anti-science thread.

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>my cousin is alive, so how did my grandparents exist?

>>131284467
We did not evolve from apes. We evolved from a common ancestor

If my 3rd cousin is alive, then where is my great great grandpa?

Checkmate, atheists.

>>131289623
You have not even the first clue about what you're describing. All organisms that left descendant populations are transitional you fucking simpleton. And you don't need "billions of mutations" to create a new species.

Please come back when you've completed a high school education.

>>131289674
Were you not the same species?

>>131284467

modern apes aren't what modern humans evolved from, that doesn't make any sense time-wise.

>>131288139
>researchers evolve new species of Drosophila all the time in the lab
Anyone who denies evolution is claiming they are a direct copy of one of their parents. It is simply change through time with heredity.

>>131285246
>survival of the fittest

natural selection you mean.

>>131284467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTOla3TyfqQ

>>131288333
>We have witnesses who have seen our great grandparents
And we have fossils of intermediate forms.

Prove to me that your great great great grandpa's body exists.

>Politics

>>131285631
Jay Gould had the right idea

>>131289551
(different anon)
Let's just discuss one. Australopithecus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_(Australopithecus)

>>131289873
Breeding doesn't make new species.
It's been tried and failed.
If scientists can't do it then there is a major flaw in the theory.
Disproving the dogma is too hard at present.

>Evolution is REAL
>Global Warming is REAL
>The Earth is FLAT

/thread

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>>131284467

Earth was a Joint Colonization(Blacks = Africa,Whites = Europe, Asians = Asia).

Several "test runs" were done before the planet was deemed Survivable on. One of which(and the most successful) was Neanderthals.

Archives: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

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>Every form in between died off

What?

>>131289403
All changes are obviously extremely small.
There's constantly old genetic material disappearing by not going into the offspring or not producing new offspring.
There's also new sequences being introduced since mutations makes genes that the parents didn't have.
Over thousands of generations this will change the genes of a population a lot.

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>>131289403
This. There are 0 actual mutations that are evolutionarily beneficial, in fact it's the exact opposite. Sickle cell anemia is a good example.

>>131284467
You should find the peices missing in your brain and stop shitposting about things you don't understand

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>>131284467
The biggest argument against evolution is the human brain. We went from a hunter gather society to agricultural with most humans barely knowing basic math and reading to being able to work machines and computers and doing insanely complex mathematics and science.

It makes literally no sense for us to have developed a brain to be able to do those feats let alone so quickly.

>>131289551

>>131290066
Can you explain away the Lucy fossil for why you don't think it's not accurate? Or possibly even a fake?

>>131289551
>Then we should be able to found their fossils.
Why? Do you even grasp how many organisms have lived and died since the dawn of time? It's phenomenal that we're able to find fossils of anything at all, let alone if we're actually looking for a particular one.

>Thus far, we have found next to NOTHING.
Smithsonian begs to differ. We have a very detailed lineage displaying a slew of intermediate hominids that are very well documented.

Saying "they don't exist" over and over again doesn't make it true.

>>131290237
odds are the sarcasm will woosh 100 000 feet above his head

>>131289960
These threads are common here via people who want religious states and/or vote the way their church wants. It's always been a good way to control people, before the printing press or the internet the people you interacted with were much more limited in ideas they were exposed to. In the current climate of pol not sure if they are a distraction or just us being exposed to people who still take their information this way

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>>131285246
>This

>>131290237
sickle cell is an evolutionary response to malaria

>>131290424
"Evolution" is the foundation for the liberal's faith in progress
which explains the popularity of the topic.

>>131290237
The allele for sickle cell disease actually helps the body defend against malaria. The shape of the red blood cell prevents an infection from spreading through the body. So it was beneficial in say, tropical regions of Africa where Malaria claimed a lot of lives.
Also I responded to one of your earlier posts, are you going to respond to it or something?

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>>131284467

>changes in genetics can happen spontaneously, and people have different genetics that are passed on to their children
>evolution does not exist
pick one

>>131290323
Most humans still are barely aware of basic mathematics. The world literacy rate is 85%, with a huge number of those being functional illiterates.

The human brain is very clearly the product of evolution. You really should try reading a book some time instead of posing as a clever person on the internet.

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>>131290353
>Lucy
A handful of bone fragments they set on a table and pulled the rest of the Skelton out of their ass. The fact that THIS is the best "evidence" of human evolution says a lot.

>>131290547
Evolution is simply the foundation for non-theistic origin, which creationists declared to be "Liberal".

You're ruining the conservative party.

>>131286703
Then what do you sugest you ignorant nazi?

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>>131288835
People keep calling OP a retard, yet no one has been able to prove him wrong, where are the missing pieces?

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>>131290620
>The fact that THIS is the best "evidence" of human evolution says a lot.
But it's not the best hominid fossil we have. It's far from it.

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>>131284467
U asked ?

>>131290547
Wrong. Modern progressivism is fundamentally anti-Darwinian. There are many critics of evolution on the postmodern left. In fact there's a book on my shelf 'Darwinism and Its Discontents' by Ruse on this very topic.

They don't believe that human beings evolved or are subject to continuing selection pressure. You're not clever enough for this debate summerchild.

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>>131289002
Appeal to authority, not an argument.

>>131290950
>where are the missing pieces?
We keep telling you, they're with your great great great grandfather; dead and lost to the ages.

>>131291009
That's not what an appeal to authority is you embarrassing tard.

>>131290950
Not all animals fossilize, you utter knob.

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>>131290998

>>131291009
That's not what appeal to authority is.

>>131290620
It's not the best. It's important because many scientists see it as an equal half between human and primitive ape.

>A handful of bone fragments they set on a table

Have you looked at the views on those bone fragments? Like the pelvic girdle? Which is clearly half man and half ape?

"A later reconstruction by Tim White showed a broad iliac flare and a definite anterior wrap, indicating that Lucy had an unusually broad inner acetabular distance and unusually long superior pubic rami. Her pubic arch was over 90 degrees and derived, that is, similar to modern human females. Her acetabulum, however, was small and primitive."

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>>131287981

Evolution is pure BS.
You can breed dogs into knew shapes but as with all change of that type it's only ever accomplished by loosing genetic information and never by gaining new genetic information.
Once genetic info is lost in the change it is gone forever.
So there is change within a type but it's by literally the opposite process of 'evolution'.
This is all absolute fact and totally observable yet the evolution myth continues to be forced on people by the media.

Just adding some names: KTLK's radio host on the conservative morning radio program Jon Justice doesn't believe in evolution and is one of those retarded Christians.

"Well there's monkeys in the zoo, so evolution isn't real!"

And this is in MN. How could anyone NOT believe in evolution?

>>131290968
>>131290620
There are hundreds of thousands of dinosaurs bones, yet only a handful of bones as (((evidence))) that supports evolution.
Really makes you think...

>>131290323
Have you ever heard of a thing called school?
We just learn different things now, we're not taught to survive in the wilderness but just know other stuff.

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I Fucking Love Science!!!!

>>131284467
You don't have this correct. We share a common ancestor that speciated several thousand years ago. In fact, smol monkeys aren't even as closely related to us as bonobos and chimps.

>>131290998
You literally worship a jew
If that's not being a good little goy I don't know what is

>>131288139
Strange how evulotion have been observed in laboratories and have been seen in the teeth of the south american panthers for example.

>>131290219
This. Far more convincing than the "OMG YOU PEOPLE DON'T EVEN INTO SCIENCE READ A BOOK" crowd.

>>131286703
>he thinks a magic sky man made people from dirt
Every living thing shares common DNA. We don't need fossils when we have genetic evidence, Cletus.

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>>131291362
Pagans are nothing but the Jew's brand new pet

>>131290716
Of course religious dogma is the most basic politics.
The concepts have to fit the mental capacity of the masses, which evolution does for the time being apparently.

>>131291226
Scientific Fact #2:
Whilst change can be achieved (only by shedding genetic information) the changes can only go so far before no more information can be lost without seriously damaging or killing the subject.
That is why highly bred dogs have medical complications.
Also this is why it's totally impossible to breed a dog until it's a cat.

>>131291226
>never by gaining new genetic information.
Actually, there are a wide variety of mechanisms by which chromosome size and base pair numbers increase in size, usually by means of duplication events. One example of this is polyploidy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyploid

This particular example is far more common in plants and invertebrates, but it still illustrates the point of how replication errors can increase gene size.

>>131291180
You're right. I just re-read your comment and it contains even less substance than I thought.

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>>131284467
There

>>131291245
Not that I agree with you, but even if we had only a handful of bones as EVIDENCE that supports evolution, it would still support evolution right?
The truth though is that we have plenty of evidence to support everything from whale to bird evolution. Ask me about any group of animals you think we have no evolutionary evidence for.

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>>131291182
Even if they were able to accurately guess what the rest of the skeleton looked like, having one doesn't prove anything. There would have to have been tons of those things, but there isnt.

You could fit all of the supposed missing link skeletons in a single room. Just because you find one odd ball skeleton doesnt mean there was an entire species

>>131291393
Evolution has never been observed in or out of the laboratory.
Show us the proof.
If it ever gets observed the scientists observing it would become instantly world famous.

You're doing the right thing OP
People keep attacking you because deep inside they know you're right but after years of brainwashing all they can bear to digest is the (((scientific))) dogmas

>>131291404
People still should read books. Far too many tards ITT wanting to disprove a theory they have zero knowledge of.

The "OMG THE FOSSIL RECORD IS INCOMPLETE" retards would discover that evolution does not hinge on the fossil record and that we have evidence from all sorts of other places (DNA, embryology, bacteria, comparative anatomy, etc. etc. etc.)

>>131291245
>There are hundreds of thousands of dinosaurs bones
Most of which are very loosely related and take up an entire biological class.

Being able to find members of the same genus or species is magnitudes more difficult. It's the difference between searching a crowded baseball field for any human being versus looking for your brother.

>>131284467
Humans didn't evolve from the apes that are around today, it's more that humans and other primates branched off from a common ancestor.

>>131291645
>your comment
It wasn't my comment

>>131291782
DNA. We don't need fossils.

>>131291711
No there wouldn't. If we can show that one skeleton IS REAL and clearly shows a link between ape and human than why shouldn't we say there isn't a link?
We have tons of other fossils to support ape-human evolution, we just only have one Lucy fossil as far as I know.

>>131291860
We don't need to disprove a theory that has never been proven, only ever disproven at every turn.
It's not science it's a religion followed by scientists.

>>131284467
We have a common ancestor as apes. We don't come from apes, you stupid fucking retard.

SAGE

>>131284467
We aren't descended from chimps, both humans and chimps are descended from one common ancestor. All of the ones since that common ancestor developed into different species, until we now have all of the apes today related to that ancestor.

>>131285668
professional bait right here

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>>131284467
THE MISSING LINK IS BLACK PEOPLE.

>>131291782
http://evolutionfaq.com/articles/five-proofs-evolution
Too lazy to google James?

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>>131292025
>we don't need fossils
Then where fuck are you going to get the DNA?

>>131292055
We only have one fossil named "Lucy", yes, because it is just one individual. We have several fossils of Australopithecines though.

>>131284467
Uhm niggers?

For the people who don't believe in evolution:

How do you relate to human made selective bredding, such as dogs and most farm animals?

Why is this clearly possible but not the same over larger scale?

>>131292055
Lucy the chimp is .... a chimp
You start from the position that evolution is absolute fact and try to force the evidence that utterly disproves it to prove it then get snooty when people won't join the cult.
It's pure religion

>>131292103
You're sub-100 IQ is showing. Nobody has ever disproven it, let alone at every turn. Stop pretending to be an educated man on the internet. Not one of us is convinced.

You're as credible as a fucking flat Earther.

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>>131292055
Well there was one skeleton found that looks like this. Does that mean there was an entire species of these freaks?

>>131285668
there is a difference between Evolution and The Theory of Evolution as the Origin of the Species.

The reason why the latter is a theory is because we cannot observe Marco-Evolution (the change of one Species to another) because that would take 1000s of years to do so. The former isn't one due to the fact we can observe Mirco-Evolution (the change within one species).

>>131292254
This was Darwins reasoning too
Btw everyone knows that evolution has been disproven for 4,000 years and Darwin was just a (((rich industrialist free mason))) who plagiarised the (bad) idea, right?

>>131292380
I'm sure you're correct as I've heard the same before by several scientists, but do you have a link or something? I tried to look it up but only found stuff on Lucy. If not, that's fine. I'll keep looking.

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>>131292288
Evolucucks BTFO

>>131292288
Damn, you are dumb. Every single living thing on the planet shares DNA. Including plants. The closer we get to humans, the more DNA is shared. Pretty convincing. Now go pray to your jew god and thank him for your 85 iq.

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>>131284467

The Masons are descended from apes.

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>>131292424
You can breed dogs to look like different dogs. No amount of breeding is going to cause your dogs offspring to become a bird.

>>131291782
>Evolution has never been observed in or out of the laboratory.
But it has. The entire field of animal husbandry has stemmed from basic evolutionary principles by manipulating allelic frequencies in populations.

>If it ever gets observed the scientists observing it would become instantly world famous.
But it has been. Polyploidy alone has created plant lineages incapable of reproducing with their ancestors.

>>131292768
>No amount of breeding is going to cause your dogs offspring to become a bird.
Why does it have to be a bird?

Why can't it be something else that's simply "not a dog"?

>>131292714
>pretty convincing
Not

Monkeys and Humans have a common ancestor. No need to act retarded.

people only pretend to believe in evolution to show off how smart and educated they think it makes it them seem. even though they have never actually seen the data or analyzed it themselves and they are not scientists. they just believe what ever they're taught. fucking brainwashed fucktards.

>>131292424
So how do I turn my donkey into a flying unicorn?

>>131292885
Okay...no amount of breeding is going to cause you dogs offspring to be anything other than a dog.

>>131292445
She's part chimp. She's also part human as far as we can tell. Again, see the pelvic girdle (just for one part of her that supports ape-human evolution).

They don't start from the position that evolution is absolute fact. No evolutionary scientist should.
What evidence utterly disproves it? I would love to see it!

>>131292908
Yeah, you're right, everything happened through "magic". It's CRAZY to think that things change over billions of years. Good goy, Yeshua the Jew loves you.

>>131292999
What about clonally transmissible cancer?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonally_transmissible_cancer

It came from a dog, but isn't a dog. It's its own parasite lineage with common origin.

C'mon guys it's settled science. Just like 26 genders and the fact that if the US doesn't pay trillions of dollars to third world countries, the earth is going to burn up. Don't you watch Bill Nye?

Is denying evolution the new flat earth?

>>131292802
Read the thread, I explain why you're wrong above.
Or just this.>>131292768
Animals ONLY change by shedding genetic information
The opposite to evolution

>>131289435
They're trolling you, you fucking moron. You are the stupid one wasting their fucking time commenting on these fucking threads trying to feel superior to anyone.

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>>131290998

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>>131292984
Just like with everything (((scientists))) claim.
But you're the retard if you dare to ask questions.

>>131293195
It has been on the same nevel for the last 100 years

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>>131293208
>Animals ONLY change by shedding genetic information
But that's not true. At all.

Polyploidy and duplication events during replication both increase the amount of genetic material. That's actually the reason that humans and old world monkeys have 4 cones instead of the 3 that new world monkey's have, because of a duplication event.

>>131284467
You're the next dumbest shit I've seen today.

Probably the same bible-bashing tit.

>>131293415
>4 kinds of cones in their eyes
Sorry, should have clarified.

>>131293437
Prove him wrong then?

>>131292554
No. For reasons I shouldn't have to explain but will anyways.
That individual first off obviously couldn't have survived without care from others who were not also malformed. It seems to have severe scoliosis, and rickets or some shit. A species such as this would never have evolved as it's body design is clearly not beneficial.

>>131293002
She is a chimp skeleton that they literally took power tools too to change whilst being filmed doing it for a documentary.
They said they were fixing the remains because they had become deformed whilst in the ground, they even showed an animation of a fucking deer stepping on the bones and causing them (magically) to become absolutely identicle to a chimps bones.
So they 'fixed' them with power tools to produce a missing link.
Hilariously sad.

>>131284467

Fuck of retard. I wont waste my time and energy debating with someone who is missing 8th grade knowledge.

>>131293672
>they even showed an animation of a fucking deer stepping on the bones and causing them
Who is "they"?

>>131290985
what do they propone if it's not evolution nor creation?

>>131292885
When can it stop being Satan to apply the same logic to humanity

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>>131293672
Same thing happened with "Piltdown man". Every scientist looking at the thing new damn well it was a forgery but because it supported evolution and got them more funding none of them said anything.

>>131284467
There is literally thousands upon thousands of samples of evidence of all the 'inbetween' species.

Swinging from trees is a viable evolutionary choice, and building cities is a viable evolutionary choice, but if you try 'in between' one or the other replaces you because they are better and more specialized.

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>>131294019
I'm sorry, what?

Grrrr. People who don't believe the telly are the Jew .
And they are really dumb.

(This is literally the evolution argument as you are posting it)

>>131293845
You don't waste your time with Holocaust deniers either?

>>131284467
rlly maeks me think
Kill yourself you dumb fucking lardass

>IF DOGS BE DESCENDED FROM WOLVEZ, WHY IS THERE STILL WOLVEZ???

I really think there is an ongoing shilling campaign to make us look like dumb faggots

SAGE

>>131294219
no, you dont get it, you just proved his point

>>131294099
There are less human humans all around us. But it's not ok to talk about that politically anymore, since a time when your grandma was still alive

>>131294046
Nigger, scientists have not talked about piltdown man for fucking ages. It has not been relevant for more than 60 years.

Literally the only people talking about it now are creationists.

>>131293672
They changed the fossil because the original reconstruction was obviously not done correctly.

"this reconstruction proved to be faulty, as the superior pubic rami would not have been able to connect were the right ilium identical to the left."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_(Australopithecus)

The later reconstruction allowed for that connection.

>>131294046
Happens all the time. Scientists are as trustworthy as journalists.
These fags saying it's dumb to doubt scientists are no different to ANTIFA believing anyone who doubts journalists narratives are dumb

>>131285246
All the primates have 48 chromosomes
Humans have 46.
Explain it

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>>131294396
>scientist haven't talked about the times they have been caught red handed forging evidence of human evolution
Really makes you think.

>>131292714

Fuck off you low IQ fucktard.

>>131294384
I'm still not following.

If the question is about the biological definition of species (i.e., populations capable of producing viable offspring) then yeah, niggers are undeniably human. If you're asking whether they count as subspecies or races though, that's a different question.

>>131294414
It happened exactly like I said it happened and the documentary was broadcast all over the world

>>131294358
I am not surprised that his retarded point of view is supported by a muslim (or a fuNnY tRoll XD) like yourself

also, elaborate, faggot

>No modern human remains found older than 200,000 years ago
>Sub-human apes found before 200k years ago that look progressively more human
>Millions of new species that didn't exist when dinosaurs roamed the Earth.
Where the fuck did those species come from then? Why aren't there older examples of human remains? Where did humans come from? Where did life come from?

>>131294691
You seem to misunderstand:

If we're talking about awareness regarding scientific standards, thorough checking, and ethical practice, then Piltdown man is brought up frequently.

As evidence for or against evolution though? Creationists are literally the only ones that think it's relevant.

>>131284467
Chimps are not our ancestors, we have a common ancestor. Also, every form in between dying of would not be strange at all, the vast majority of all species that ever existed are extinct.

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>>131294655
>All the primates have 48 chromosomes
But that's not even true. At all.

Where are you getting your information from?

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>>131284467
Humans are an artificially created and selected species.
Once we admit this, it will be better.

>>131284467

Humans did not evolve from monkeys. Monkeys and humans evolved from a common ancestor.

This is like being confused about why there are no "in between forms" between your sibling and yourself. You came from the same origin (your parents), one of you is not the origin of the other...

>>131294724
>They said they were fixing the remains because they had become deformed whilst in the ground, they even showed an animation of a fucking deer stepping on the bones and causing them (magically) to become absolutely identicle to a chimps bones.

Couldn't that easily happen though? The hip was obviously deformed by some force. Again, the superior pubic rami would not have been able to connect were the right ilium identical to the left, according to the first reconstruction. The second reconstruction fit much better.

>>131295000
All of the intermediate species dying wouldn't be weird. All of their fossils being mysteriously non existent would be impossible though. There's tons of fossils of other extinct animal species because unlike these "missing links" they actually existed.

>>131295000
every animal exticion was man made to get some materials except (((dinosaurs)))

>>131294046
People want to make a name for themselves in the scientific community and discovering a new species is a sure-fire way to do so. You may even get to name it after yourself. Kinda like a Japanese archaeologist was found to have forged evidence that humanity was first in Japan. Forgery will always happen, but not all scientists will forge, because it ruins your career when discovered.

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>>131295227
what exactly is not true ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organisms_by_chromosome_count

>>131294909
>Where the fuck did those species come from then?

Other species.

>Why aren't there older examples of human remains?

Because humans didn't exist before a certain point.

>Where did humans come from?

Other species.

>Where did life come from?

Nobody really knows the answer to this. It's too far in the past and the mechanism by which it happens appears to be more complex than we can grasp at the moment.

>>131294655
Humans have the other chromosomes still, they just got stuck together to form one chromosome. Google it.

>>131295330
Not at all.....Humans haven't been around that long.

The pro-brainwashing evolutionists also seem to think it's a choice of either clinging on to their never proven, oft disproven theory or worship God, like it's a binary choice.
This then spurs them on in their abject failure to admit the obvious truth that evolution is impossible.
Introduce another few trillion years with the magic wand of academic totalitarianism and voila - still utterly impossible,.

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No one can prove OP wrong yet keep calling him a retard

>>131295474
That question was for evolution deniers.

>>131284467
Of course it's fake. Scientists even contradict themselves by saying modern humans successfully reproduced with neanderthals, denisovans, etc despite classifying them as separate species.
>>131295306
What qualities would modern day chimps and humans have that every other species in between didn't have that allowed us to survive whatever conditions led to the demise of everything else?

>>131295330
>every animal exticion was man made

There are plenty of species that died out long before we ever showed up. Humans are just one of the things that can drive extinctions.

Some animals go extinct despite huge efforts on our part to keep them alive, like the giant pandas.

Riggghhhttt....

It's fucking hilarious. You challenge evolution and people have no other substance than to fling ad hominem fallacies at you such as "you're dumb" etc.

On the contrary, a smart person is going to challenge anything and EVERYTHING that is being said to make sure it is fact. Dumb fucking evolutionist are assuming that everything being stated by these fucktards is fact.

>>131284467
>Where are all of the missing pieces?
I want to give a helpful response but there really is no saving you people.

>>131284467
They were enslaved many many years ago.

>>131295312
>All of their fossils being mysteriously non existent would be impossible though.
Two things you need to understand.

First is that punctuated equilibrium can result in sweeping changes in a population in a relatively short period of time, leaving fewer room for intermediates to fossilize.

Second is that it is magnitudes more difficult to create a functional clade using fossils of the same genus compared to using fossils of the same class.

Third is that fossilization is uncommon to begin with and we're extremely lucky to find whatever them when we do.

>>131295649

Oh, OK.

Well the answer in that case is God.

>>131292999
except that that literally happened to wolves in the first place to make dogs

>>131295312
There's plenty of evidence for "intermediate" species.

>>131284467
i think is funny stupid people that believe in a flying magical monkey creating the world, think that we have to educate them and correct their stupid insane worldview.

I dont care if you believe or not in evolution, i believe we should separate smart people into an island or walled country, control reproduction so we can beat overpopulation [ of dipshit like you] and make religions ilegal soi dont have to hear your people stupid opinions anymore.

Then live a perfect life while watching you stupid people eat each other or whatever other stupid shit you guys decide the magic monkey wants from you

>>131285040
>great great grandparents are alive
>but your gredparents are dead so evolution is real
really makes the cortex vortex

>>131295427
The statement that "all primates have 48 chromosomes" is objectively false.

Primates as a whole swing wildly in chromosome count between 36 to 54.
What you're listing is humasn to great apes, which is a much smaller clade than primates. Which is true, they're all 48 but having an increase or decrease in chromosome count is not uncommon in nature let along among primates.

>>131295748

Then say it you dumb fucktard. You ignorant motherfuckers keep saying shit, but none of you have stated why evolution is real. So, are you saying it is real because you someone said so? Why is it real? Tell us. Where is the proof?

>>131295810
>I will not question reigion because my parents said so when I was 5 pip pop peep

>>131295906
>if you believe the shit i say you are smart

>>131295747
>Hurr durr evolutionist cucks can only call questioners dumb
>Aren't evolutionists dumb gois?
There are species that didn't exist in the past. Why and how? How do YOU think life first began?

>>131294219
Wow you are fucking dumb..

>>131294721
I'm diverting the question back to politics and suggesting you read australian history regarding the aboriginal species.

Don't get drawn into unanswerable (as yet) questions by the science deniers who flock to these threads scoffing at any modern physicist

>>131284467
>Where are all of the missing pieces?
Mississippi.

>>131296006
exactly

Americans always shit up the board with their dead kike on a stick crap.

>>131296049
>I'm diverting the question back to politics and suggesting you read australian history regarding the aboriginal species.
No, what you're doing is derailing the discussion to some other tangent.

>>131295500
Yes, chromosomes 2 and 3 are glued into one.
But , according to official science, the chances of that happening naturally and the organism surviving to reach sexual maturity are one to many millions.
Leaving aside the fact that it needs a mate to exist in the same time , because number of chromosomes is a reproduction barrier

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>>131284467

>this happened by chance in each of these species from a mole to an elephant

The absolute state of evolutionary denialists.

>>131296100
well choose the side that makes more sense maybe

evolution doesnt make any, like op points out

>>131295973
see >>131296245

>>131284467
This has been solved by science and fossils. As what became humans got bigger and smarter they out-populated the smaller ones. They also were bigger and smarter and killed them off. Monkeys were no threat intellectually or physically so there was no need to kill them off. Go to college dumbfuck.

>>131295906

Again, why is evolution "real?" What do you dumb fucks have to back up your claims other than what other have told you? Are you so gullible as to believe that something is true simply because some dipshit professor says it is? Have you actually looked at their claims to investigate it for yourself? I get it. You want evolution to be real so that you can wipe out religion, but #1. Even if evolution were true (it's a made up lie) it wouldn't do anything to disprove a higher power. #2. Evolution has yet to be proven as fact. You're a brainwashed fucktard.

>>131295906
>I don't care if people believe in evolution
You clearly do and you are clearly butt hurt by the truth or you wouldn't assume that it's a binary choice between believing in your religion (evolution) or believing in God.

>>131284467
The missing pieces are your brain cells as a lack of basic cognitive functioning is evident in your post. kys faggot.

>>131293358
Not as much on /pol/ tho.

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>>131296365
>why is evolution "real?"

Because it makes sense.

>>131296410
Unfortunatly not

>>131295747
If you start off a strawman argument by saying that everyone else has a strawman arguement it's really a matter of whether you are that completely retarded or if you are just trying to distract people from the usual conversation on here with an argument as old as sentience itself where the only answer is "gimmeevidence"

>Modern monkey = anceint common ancestor

So how long until reading isn't part of curiculum in US schools

>>131286703
>get grant money to find missing link
>find a single tooth
>find another bone fragment a half mile down the road
>here's your missing species we call it Lucy
>smug atheist liberals accept it as absolute fact
Anthropology everyone

>>131296363
holy fucking shit you are dumb
they would have enslaved the shit out of them
>they were a threat intellectually
hahaha wow

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What qualities would modern day chimps and humans have that every other species in between didn't have that allowed us to survive whatever conditions led to the demise of everything else?

>>131296150
From the vague and off topic back to what the forum is here for how disturbing for someone to link the two

>>131296363

It is no answer to the argument you intellectually inferior fucktard. Where is the proof of your statement? You have none. There is no evidence to back up your claim.

>>131296334
>But , according to official science, the chances of that happening naturally and the organism surviving to reach sexual maturity are one to many millions.
But we see this same thing happen many times in different organisms. That is, where cross-over errors occur (or polyploidy occurs) and we still get viable offspring. Again, the varied chromosome count across all of primates is evidence of that.

Relatively speaking it's uncommon, but that's the difference between a generation and several million years.

>>131296365
You can believe in God and religion you fucking troglodyte. Let me ask if you have done the proofs needed to reinvent the fid of physics or mathematics. Did you personally study the proofs of Newton or Einstein, or do you trust in the peer review of the collective scientific world? It's in a scientist's interest to disprove other scientists and theories to improve their own academic standing.

>>131295721
No he was completely wrong, an estimated 99% of all species that ever lived are extinct. The vast majority of all extinctions have nothing to do with humans.

>>131296363

IF ANYONE BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION, THEY ARE INFERIOR INTELLECTUALLY.

You would have to be fucking dumb to believe such bullshit.

Evolution does not exist.

>>131289002
You don't know shit you limey faggot. Quit acting superiors when you have literally no argument. The guy you're talking down to is 100% right in the claim he made. Go fuck yourself, you Muslim cucked no free speech having bitch

>>131288197
>nazi flag
>denies evolution

professional b8 right there buddy boyo

>>131284467
We didn't evolve from chimps, dumb ass.

>>131296592
There are differences between finches based upon different environmental niches. Humans and monkeys drifted apart in niches. We didn't out compete them in their environment, we adapted to new environments and were evolutionarily successful.

That's like saying if you and your cousin are alive then why is your great grandad dead.

>>131296755

We didn't evolve from anything because evolution is not real.

Ok if evolution is a false theory, what is the real red pill /pol/?

>>131296660
I lack the knowledge to say its the same physical process in humans and other species
But you ignore the fact that human evolution was way faster, in fact, faster than any other animal , so it does not account for processes requiring many million of years

>>131296686
you cant prove that shit, they are saying, it could have been more species, they dont fucking know!

>>131296365
Exactly right.
And the dipshit professor telling them about evolution and ticking it as the correct answer on their tests only believes in it himself because his dipshit professor told him that it was true and ticked it as correct when he did his tests... and so on.
Throw in the establishment being dependent on this religion to be able to programme people as and when they wish to with whatever they want. They do this because when people think evolution is a scientific fact they think it proves there is no basis for morality and so they become open to PC programming. What we've got ourselves is an international cult run for the benefit of (((big money)))

>>131296928
>every great grandad is dead

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>>131284467
This chart is kinda inaccurate because dinosaurs are birds

>>131296365
It's one of the best theories in science, the amount of evidence for it is enormous. At least the catholic church realized this and said: "Look God was even more ingenious than we thought!" Which will always happen whenever the evindence against their claims becomes overwhelming.

>>131288968
Dogs actually evolved from a different species than what wolves evolved from from what i heard

So if evolution is real and climate change is real, then we shouldn't have any problems. Humans will develop fire resistant skin and live in the scorched Earth forever. We'll all turn into Ghost Rider.

>>131295864
Wolves are still dogs, they can mate and produce offspring.

Still no evidence of evolution.

>>131297139
>eisenber
coincidence

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>>131296750
You should pay more attention to the content of my post than my flag. That fish was said to be an intermediate species now extinct shown in pic related. Turns out not only is it not extinct, it hasn't evolved at all over millions of years.

>every human in all of recorded history has looked human
>/pol/ believes humans were tadpoles 10 million years ago because mechanical engineer Bill Nye said so
Where are the man-monkeys and alligator humans and tadpole humans, /pol/?

>inb4 fossils
There's no recorded history of humans seeing these things in life. God put the fossils there to cultivate our naturalistic sensibilities.

>>131297037
Cooking and fire my dude. These existed prior to modern humans and accelerated our growth because we could extract more calories from our food source. Human brains burn a lot more calories than other species. Intelligence requires steady nutrition and quite a bit of our caloric energy. Look at evolutionary curves.

>>131297227
The same people who profess evolution hilariously claim it has now 'stopped' for some magical reason.
Seriously you couldn't make this shit up. (Well actually that's just what they did)

>>131297078
You can estimate it from the fossil record and the current rate of extinctions. We know quite a bit.

>>131284467
We did not come from chimps we evolved along side them chimps got a massive jaw and humans gave up the massive jaw for a large brain

>>131297037
>But you ignore the fact that human evolution was way faster, in fact, faster than any other animal
I don't know if I believe that, but whatever.

I'd attribute it mostly to humans engaging principles of selective breeding upon themselves. You've seen what we've managed to do to other organisms we've been in close contact to. I have trouble imagining we haven't subconsciously (or even deliberately) done the same thing to ourselves in the past or even now.

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>>131296864
So you're saying our nearest ancestor, both physically and intellectually superior to modern day chimps, couldn't adapt to conditions the chimps could? Sounds like a stretch.
You'd have to go into a lot of detail on those environmental niches we and chimps filled and the others didn't, a niche so important that, left unfulfilled, ended up wiping them from existence entirely.

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>>131297276
>my ancestor :^)

>>131297354
That's pure conjecture, you can't prove that.

>Look at evolutionary curves.

lol

>>131297422

Monkeys and humans don't compete for space and resources. Monkeys live in trees, eat whatever they find, and fling poo at each other. Humans do other things.

>>131297227
They wouldn't be humans anymore probably. It's also possible none of what you say will happen and we just go extinct. None of that speaks against evolution.

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Evolution is the one world religion, it uses space and globe earth as its genesis

>>131297098
Since this question remains unanswered, I will ask you; when you took math and physics courses, did you run through and recreate the proofs of Newtonian and Einstein's physics? Did you personally prove all of the theories of math and science except for evolution? Such a bullshit argument senpai. Peer review exists and scientists make their name by making or debunking theories.

>>131297422
>couldn't adapt to conditions the chimps could?
Even now, humans struggle to survive innawoods. Having a non-functioning cecum kinda fucks over our ability to eat raw meat.

>>131290950
I find it hard to believe that you are actually this dumb and not just trolling but in case you are here's the short version.

An estimated 99% of all species that have ever existed are extinct. Those are your missing links. The reason you don't see at lot of fossils is because the probability of fossilisation is very low and requires specific conditions for it to occur.

>>131297406
Yeah.
Apart from the bit where it's totally impossible to gain genetic information from anywhere and the only way an animal can change (as in dog breeds) is by loosing genetic information (which is observable) and once the genetic information is lost it can never come back - apart from that bit
I still totally don't believe you

>someone tells me /pol/ isn't full of ignorant niggers with double digit IQs
>these fucking retard threads get 300+ replies

This is why no one respects us. This, and the reddit newfags flooding the board.

>>131297853
This is the only way animals change
It is observable
>>131297862

>>131297853
>An estimated 99% of all species that have ever existed are extinct. Those are your missing links. The reason you don't see at lot of fossils is because the probability of fossilisation is very low and requires specific conditions for it to occur.

H-hey guys, there's no evidence for our theory but it's still correct right? Right?

>>131297422
>Implying that the Earth's climate never changes.
Our oldest ancestor my dude. Not our nearest. Evolution takes longer than that. And it wasn't outcompeting, it was finding an unoccupied niche.

>>131297950
Anyone who doesn't believe (((big money))) is the Jew
And is really dum

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>>131297498

>>131297582
Fires in caves leaves evidence. It changes the makeup of the ground. Fires were found in caves predating modern humans. Modern humans are only found up to about 200k years ago. Why? Why not older?

>>131297950
>>131298139
And Reddit doesn't believe in evolution too so there
I pwoooved it

>>131297582
>That's pure conjecture
Our inability to eat raw meat is not pure conjecture. Humans are really shitty at surviving in rainforests compared to monkeys. Not that we can't do it, but short of getting away from other humans there's not a good reason to. We survive way better near coastlines.

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>>131298292
Thanks.

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Pwoof

>>131297227
It takes time for evolution to occur, climate change is happening faster than we are evolving (if we are to believe what mainstream media and science say about climate change).

>>131297390
Nobody is claiming it has "stopped", that's pop-science bullshit right there. If anything, humans are evolving faster than ever before since our living conditions are changing so drastically compared to earlier in human history.

That being said natural selection is much less important nowadays than before. Due to sexual liberation, sexual selection is the biggest contributing fact to human evolution nowadays. Very few people die before they can reproduce.