Everyone deserves to be free and equal.

>>131275895
Life isn't fair.

But what about Jews?

>>131275895
>people who are clearly unequal should be equel

why tho?

>>131276081
Babbas first pill

>>131275895
By everyone, I assume you mean every human.
Niggers and sand-niggers aren't human.

>>131276090
They get to be free and equal, but bootlickers like you will be thrown in the ocean.

>>131276361
>mainly human
>white neanderthal cowards couldn't even repel one Jihad
>still believes their human

Holy fuck, is delusion a sin yet?

Seemingly uncontroversial statement.

>>131276432
You can't repel SJW and muslims invasion too.
So Canada whites are not human.

>>131276090

Freer and more equal, comrade.

>>131275895
While I would agree that everyone *deserves* to be equal and free, mere circumstance dictates that complete and total equality and freedom is impossible.

>>131275895
tell that to the jews, they think they are better

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>>131275895

>>131275895
subjective
proof by assertion
conflation of contexts (-ual meanings)
sophistry
appeal to emotion
etc etc

>>131276637

Oy vey ja pierdle...

Everyone deserves to be free, but no one deserves to be equal. Equality is earned.

>>131277010
How can an individual be free if they are not equal? One seems to necessitate the other.

Alright, but why do they deserve the opportunity provided to MY countrymen? They can be "equal" on the other side of the goddamned ocean, thank you very much.

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>>131275895
>Everyone deserves
There's that phrase again

>>131277010
>>131277090
You are free to earn your equal.
But you can't expect equal to be grant.

>>131275895
>Everyone deserves to be free and equal.

This is the Enlightenment in seven words. The reason it plunged the world into shit is because the words "free" and "equal" were never defined and limited. Freedom turned into unrestrained licence. And equality turned into equity (identical outcomes). Let me translate your statement into its true meaning:

"Everyone deserves degeneracy and social justice."

>>131277090
Equality actually infringes on freedom. In the pursuit of equality the freedom of the better off is restricted to create equality

>>131275895

>Everyone deserve to be free and equal
>proceed to judge peoples with an absurdly unbalanced vision of justice and filled to the brim with prejudice

Define ''Everyone''

>>131275895
Stop spreading lies.
Stop waving the fag flag.
Ignore profligate orders.

>>131277090
What does equal mean to you?

>>131275895
Everyone deserves the equal opportunity to succeed but to act on that opportunity is a factor of honest effort.

>>131275895

"equal" is a term of mathematics

it has no meaning elsewhere

>>131275895
If only the world worked on the premise of what's deserved.

everyone deserves Equal opportunity, not everyone is equal

>>131277379
Okay, but freedom presupposes a fundamental condition of equality; that is there requires a fundamental level of equality for freedom to exist.

Would you say that a janitor is more free than someone with a cushy office job today?

>>131277090
Every time you strive to improve yourself, you are striving to create more inequality.

>>131275895
Then why is the US not following its own recipe?

>>131277604

>everyone deserves Equal opportunity,

why?

>>131277691
Idk man.

>>131277758
Because niggers like you who lack the spine in your own personal life yo muster the tiniest effort to fully type out "I don't know" exist, now go fucking sort yourself, Jamal.

>>131277887
Triggered

>>131277932
Quit being a fucking nigger, and we won't find you a spot on the day of the rope.

>>131275895
>Everyone deserves to be free and equal

of course.
But equal in what? I want to be equal to an astronaut.and do the things he does. Do I deserve it in the name of equality? Or should I strive do become unequal to the rest of the humans?

>>131277645
In terms of absolute freedom yes, while in terms of relative freedom they are not equal.

The optimal society is still the society which prioritises freedom above equality

>>131275895
Freedom and equality are a myth.

>>131277994
Why are you so angry, bub?

No such thing as equality and there never will be.

The gazelle always gets eaten by the lion.

Life isn't fair. Suck it up and deal with it or just kill yourself.

>>131278159
I already explained that. Niggers exist, and one of them is interacting with me. Need I say more?

>>131275895
>free
>equal

pick one

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>>131275895
No, gays and women need protections and affirmative action.

>>131278104
Why does one need to be prioritized, what is the optimal society?

>>131278199
I think there is a fair distinction between freedom and equality in respect to human institution As opposed to more primitive interpretations concerning natural selection.

>>131278235
Sucks for you.

>>131276081
Its unfair on its own. If we did absolutely nothing, no action at all, it would be unfair.

Surely the purpose of coming together in a cvilization is to try and make is less unfair

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>>131277222

Jesus this is the ideal THICC

>>131278199
Equality != fair
That's the mistake SJWs make.

>>131275895
First, watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hOqjjaRW5o

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>>131278604

Shiiiiieeet the woman is perfection.

>>131277645
No it doesn't, freedom only allows you to not be enslaved. You're conflating different terms and ideas to draw to a conclusion that you desire. Look, it's admirable you want to hold these values but value doesn't come from thin air. To gain equality means you have to take from someone who earned something. Now we could get into a never ending debate whether each individual truly earned what they achieved but the point is your use of vague terminology and meaningless platitudes isn't going to win any arguments.

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>>131275895
People are not equal. Freedom is a meme.

>>131278810
I don't think that's really true, there exists in society a framework that allows people to earn things that doesn't exactly correlate with equality; I can earn someone's friendship & love, but that doesn't detract from my fundamental human worth.

>>131278431
What they ask for is equality, but what they seek is equality of outcome.
Equal treatment they've got, and it's costing them dearly.
Equality of outcome however, is impossible. Will never happen.

>>131279066
To do that, you take a person's time an energy who would've gone to someone else, the same way these stupid fucking gibs taxes take from people who earned it and give it to a lesser. Should that person you like tell you to fuck off because there are brown people who need it more? YOU worked for it, not them.

We're not equal.

>>131279066
See >>131277428
Until you can define that and be precise with your language you're going to constantly shift your meaning in order to 'win' this argument.

>>131279280
Both seem like mutually reciprocal relationships; I love my friend; my friend loves me. The Welfare state benefits me & it benefits people who've historically faced challenges gaining liberty and respectful treatment as human beings.

>>131279706
I'm not trying to win any argument; for a person to act freely there needs to be an absence of a restraining force. For a society to be authentically free; the same holds true and it is in this lack of a restraining force (whatever it may be e.g. Material challenges, political circumstances, etc.).

>>131279930
My bad, the lack of a restraining force creates a fundamental equality.

>>131279930
>The Welfare state benefits me & it benefits people who've historically faced challenges gaining liberty and respectful treatment as human beings.
Explain how the welfare state benefits those who pay into it, who essentially sustain it through their own earnings earned through their own toil and/or cunning, but who also do not receive from it.

How is unequal treatment = equality?

>>131279930
>it benefits me
You literally are a nigger, Jesus fucking Christ. Grow the fuck up and realize that if you were on the side of the table producing the wealth that subhuman sum like you steal, you'd be singing a different tune.

I don't even know why I'm bothering, it's not like you can comprehend this shit.

>>131280361
Because in one way or another, everyone is eligible to gain certain things like Medicare after one retires, or social security insurance.

>>131280454
I'm an Economist.

>>131279930
Congratulations you were born in America and are free to pursue anything you choose. How do you go about righting every supposed inequality?

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>>131275895
They dont have to look for freedom in my country if they dont want to apply for citizenship first. They can go look for it in britian and get good at dodging cars while getting arrested for freedom of speech by the thought police.

>>131275895
>Everyone deserves to be free and equal.

Sounds like "everyone must die".

>>131280586
Ensure everyone's basic needs are met as well as equal access to the political process

>>131275895
Only God is free. I seek liberty.

>>131280559
No economist believes in the welfare state, as it has been proven through countless studies as well as countless societies that it does NOT fucking work.

>>131281034
I mean if you want to tell that to the actual economists who do and continue to delude yourself go right ahead.

>>131275895
fuck this faggot shit, go here >>131268280

>>131275895
A terrorist's freedom is an innocent's slavery. A nigger's gibs is a white man's undervalue.

>>131280361
they don't get robbed and murdered by the bottom tier of society as much

>>131281836
Literally "give us money or we'll hurt you"
Yeah, maybe fuck that, let's just start killing the niggers instead

>>131275895
We all are free and equal already.
And there is mo way of changing it.

>>131277740
why shouldnt they?

>>131276361
I gots me the results of innumerable DNA tests says different.

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>>131275895
No they don't.

>>131276081
Life being unfair to everyone is the ultimate equality.