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>>131266140
Wow OP. Not that I don't think what you said is untrue but.. are you sure you are actually Polish? Because every Pole I've ever seen on this site is incredibly chauvinistic bordering on arrogant and would never admit their country did anything wrong ever in history. Surely you are just Ukrainian no?

>>131266140
the whole documentary is
>look at these nigger german soldiers
>now look at these totally based animal protection law hitler created versus the dead niggers in rhodesia
>so now you own Hitler dindu nuffin and the allies were the REAL racists

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>>131266140
>proappeasementowa ciota
kisnę
Ukraina nieźle wyszła na (((oddaniu ziemi okupantowi)))

>>131266372
I'm Polish. I would just rather be wrong than dishonest to myself. And I simply don't care about what foreigners think about my country - Poles often try to bend the truth on all kinds of subjects so the country looks perfick.

There is place for that but when you goof around all the time there's no actual time for looking deeper into what could have been actually done to prevent many of the mistakes that were made. Some people just cannot acknowledge they may make mistakes, they would rather lie than admit they are in wrong.

I think than analytical and open-minded approach is far better for a person who cares about their country than following the government's scenario of what was bad and what was good for your country. These guys are good for nothing pawns.

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>>131266140
jesus noone cares about ww2.

Germany is dead we propably arent.

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>>131266140
how do you say "cuck" in polish? because you are one, OP

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Im not a national socialist.

But posts like this are how we get 4chan back.

What the fuck happened to this site.

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>>131266372
>Because every Pole I've ever seen on this site is incredibly chauvinistic bordering on arrogant and would never admit their country did anything wrong ever in history

you could use some of that attitude.

>>131266653
rogacz

>>131266140
Yes, we probably should've aligned with Hitler. That's what Piłsudski wanted anyway - either to crush him with a pre-emptive strike, or to create an alliance. It's a shame he died before he could make sure that we're ready for the coming storm.

What does this realization change in the grand scheme of things? Absolutely nothing. What's done can't be undone. Germans are not our friends right now and we have to defend our nation from their marxist ideology and from the EU, because they present an existential threat to us. If other people are going to call us chauvinistic and arrogant, fuck them. If it causes some naziboo tears, fuck them too. Better chauvinistic than dead.

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Reminder that Hitler attended Catholic mass only one single time as Führer; for the memorial service for Pilsudski that was held in Berlin. He had immense respect for him

>>131266741
I love my country and value its national history and cultural identity but I would never act so disingenuous as to act as if my country is perfect and has never done anything wrong ever. If someone else does something wrong, I won't take the blame for it but if I know my country has done something wrong, then I'll admit it. It won't make me like my country less, but walking around disparaging other nations while claiming that mine is perfect and that everyone else should also agree me about that (Like most Poles on this site unfortunately) is unproductive and only fuels division in my humble opinion.

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>>131266140
Stfu and kys idiot:

>Nearly two years before the invasion of the Second Polish Republic, between 1937 and 1939, the Sonderfahndungsbuch Polen was being secretly prepared in Germany.[2] It was compiled by the “Zentralstelle IIP Polen” (Central Unit IIP-Poland) unit of the Geheime Staatspolizei or Gestapo ("Secret State Police") with help from some members of the German minority living in pre-war Poland.[3]
Execution of Poles in Kórnik by SS-Einsatzgruppe, 20 October 1939. Image from German Federal Archive

>The Central Unit IIP-Poland was created by Reinhard Heydrich in order to coordinate the ethnic cleansing of all Poles in "Operation Tannenberg" and the Intelligenzaktion, two codenames for the extermination actions directed at the Polish people during the opening stages of World War II.[4]

>Formally, the Intelligenzaktion was a second phase of Operation Tannenberg (Unternehmen Tannenberg) conducted by Heydrich's Sonderreferat. It lasted until January 1940 as the first part of the Generalplan Ost. In Pomerania alone 36,000–42,000 Poles including children were killed already before the end of 1939.[4]

>The list identified more than 61,000 members of Polish elite: activists, intelligentsia, scholars, actors, former officers, Polish nobility, Catholic priests, university professors, teachers, doctors, lawyers and even a prominent sportsman who had represented Poland in the Berlin Olympics in 1936. People in the Special Prosecution Book were killed outright by Einsatzgruppen and Volksdeutscher Selbstschutz or sent to concentration camps to die. The German death squads including Einsatzkommando 16 and EK-Einmann fell under direct command of SS-Sturmbannführer Rudolf Tröger, with overall command by Reinhard Heydrich.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Prosecution_Book-Poland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tannenberg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligenzaktion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_AB-Aktion_in_Poland

>>131267345
No Pole thinks that our country is perfect. Some of us simply like to trigger the arrogant western Europeans due to the fact that they think their countries are hot shit even though they're essentially turning into Africa 2.0.

It's mostly about shitting on the current marxist iteration of Germany and the EU, if you're a western nationalist and you're okay with us, than we're okay with you.

>>131267910
Reminder that no documents referring to the supposed "Generalplan Ost" have ever been discivered. It's all been (((recreated)))

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>>131268137
Reminder that naziboo shit won't fly with Poles because most of us actually have family members who remember their relatives being killed by the nazis.

>>131266140
Do you even realise that Hitler saw Slavs as untermensch? After the war he wanted to exterminate most Slav population in Greater Reich, and enslave the rest. No, this is not a communist propaganda. Fairy tales about Polish-German alliance is a fanfiction found in interwar pulp tabloids

>>131268288

Reminder that no one cares what P*les think, fgt

>>131266140
>as a compromise give them the pivotal Danzig

German clay reeeee

>>131268388
That's rich since it's probably coming from a Hitler-worshipping basement dweller living in a dying country.

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>>131268137
JUST STFU...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Prosecution_Book-Poland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn1xzeQy1Lk

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>>131267345
>I love my country and value its national history and cultural identity but I would never act so disingenuous as to act as if my country is perfect and has never done anything wrong ever


you think too much. Be self critical to learn from your mistakes but in relations with others act as if you dindu nuffin or they will walk all over you. See: Turkey.

>>131268534
That's not Generalplan Ost

>>131268656
You utter fucking moron...

>>131268612
I get what you mean, I don't want my country ending up like Germany, literally killing itself for its past wrongs both real and fake. But I don't want the other extreme either. I would just look obnoxious if I did. Sure I can be biased towards my country but I should maintain at the very least a semblance of impartiality when dealing with others or risk losing their attention or support altogether.

>>131268656
Generanplan Ost is dubious at best, but atrocities were committed against the Poles by the Germans and vice versa, that is the nature of war I'm afraid. Hitler wanted to remove all Poles from those territories annexed to Germany and force them into the Generalgovournement so that upon a victorious conclusion the Poles claims to the land would be extremely weak. In return, the Soviets and Poles and Czechs expelled all Germans in the Sudentenland and East of the Oder (And a little west of it as well like Stettin) to weaken the Germans claims on the land. And it worked. Those lands are Polish now and the only way they could ever truly be German again is if the ethnic cleansing process was reversed AGAIN. And nobody is really willing to do that now are they. If we are supposed to know more about WW2 than the average normie than we have to be impartial as well. Sure we can a bit of a National Socialist bias but claiming that Poles weren't abused is disingenuous and doesn't help people to our cause.

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>>131266140
You might be the ONLY based Pole on /pol/, grats

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>>131268288
>most of us actually have family members who remember their relatives being killed by the nazis.
YOURE A FUCKING KIKE IS WHY, MUH 6 GORILLION. The rest of us had to flee to escape the NKVD, you fucking Jewish demon. You cry endlessly about the "Notsees" when it was the fucking Bolsheviks that raped and mass murdered everyone, then pinned it on the defeated goyim to cover it up. The only people who prospered under communism in Poland were the traitors, kikes, and useful idiots -- THOSE ARE YOUR FUCKING ANCESTORS YOU KIKE.

https://youtu.be/Geu0R4xGAi4

https://youtu.be/Geu0R4xGAi4

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>>131266140
>4 discs
Sweet Jesus these people really don't know how to edit shit do this
>DVD
And they also aren't able to keep up with modern times
>Truthwillout films
Because putting truth in your name makes you all the more credible.

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>>131269194
>And it worked. Those lands are Polish now
Like they used to be originally.

>>131266140

that documentary basically yanked me out of my comfy bluepilled zone. Truly a great documentary.

I bought the documentary on dvd just so i could let my kids watch it on TV when they are old enough. Also redpilled a few friends with it who came over.

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>>131269212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWFdYEMHj14

what would be if....... --> not important

what will be if...... --> important

If that present Germany succeeds with the globalist plan to replace Europeans with 3rd world citizens, Poland and V4 states will fall in a few decades, too. Its the same claim for Europa as befor, only the complete opposit goal.

And hey, some says Merkel got a new Boss, and thats kinda interesting and brings back some hope ;)

>>131269558
>Because putting truth in your name makes you all the more credible
Not as much as the exclamation point in the title.

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>>131267910
>execution of Poles by Einzatgruppen
Abloo abloo, muh 6 gorillion goyim!
REMEMBER MUH SIX GORILLION!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NKVD_prisoner_massacres
https://youtu.be/Geu0R4xGAi4

>>131269670
>b-b-buh Hitler was a MUDSLIME goyim, you ahte MUDSLIMES anirite?
stfu Chaim, you kikes are going to get to live out your Holohoax myth for REAL next time

>>131266140

You are right OP. Poland should have sided with Germany during WW2. But... could have, should have, etc isnt doing us any good.

What lies ahead is the future. Now it is time for the polish people to shine; make sure your government wont betray you again and fight for a polish poland. We will vindicate Hitler's name when the time is right.

Long live the Visegrad Confederacy. Long live the central european nations.

>>131269558

Thanks for Correcting the Record.

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>>131268137
>Hitler and much of the party considered the Slavs below Germans and is a well-documented fact
>Deeply routed in Nazi ideology was Drang nach Osten and romanticism of the Ostsiedlung as part of Lebensraum
>Well-documented is the establishments of Reichkommissariats "Ostland", "Moskowien", "Kaukasus" and additional ones of "Turkestan" and "Ural"
>Rapid cleansing and settlement of eastern cities and towns via use of death squads across the invaded Soviet Union

Seriously if you actually think the National Socialists planned on giving any of their conquests to who they considered lower races, you're a fucking moron. No matter how much you want it to be true, it's not you insufferable Naziboo. I swear, it's the same Australian every time with this "Generalplan Ost never happen lol" shit.

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>>131269436
>>131269872
You utter fucking idiot, oh just stfu retard. We are not talking about killed Jews here, BUT POLES. 3 MILLION CHRISTIAN POLES DIED IN WW2 BECAUSE OF THE NAZIS AND SOVIETS. >>131267910


P.S. That's the Polish Armed Forces in the East entering the completely destroyed Warsaw by Germans by the way.

>>131269945
No no no, THANK YOU for fixing the error in the registration.
>>131269928
>Poland should have sided with Germany during WW2
They should have sided with the people that occupied that for several hundred of years? After what Bismarck did to them?

>>131269670
If Europe became islamic the same way christianity did, it would've been forged into our ways of life and it would probablly have been better.
Islam has a prophet that is a warmonger, christianity has a prophet that is a pacifist.
Either way, he didn't want to chose between either christianity or islam, he wanted a revival of Germanic paganism within the reich.

"The Fuhrer is deeply religious, though completely anti-Christian"
That's a quote out of Joeseph Goebell's diary, and looking at how the SS who were the ideological perfection of the NDSAP performed pagan oaths when new recruits became members and performed pagan rituals it's fair enough to assume that Hitler was a pagan.

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>>131269436
That's pretty funny since my family is essentially low-level Polish/Lithuanian nobility and my father used to smuggle and distribute anti-commie propaganda.

You don't know shit.

>>131270259
>WE WUZ KINGS AND STUFF

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>>131269436
>when it was the fucking Bolsheviks that raped and mass murdered everyone, then pinned it on the defeated goyim to cover it up.
And it were Poles and Poland who stopped (and saved Europe a second time) the Bolshevik invasion of Europe and their communist revolution lad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4I61EkSdgg

>instead they are with their families and can look toward brighter future, can share ideals and technology with their more advanced neighbour
do you really think Germany wouldn't backstab us just like they did USSR?
joining the anti-comintern pact would have been better, but Poland would have to turn against Germany sooner or later

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>>131269861
I also had my doubts at first
But surely the little sparkles in the font means it is a product of the highest quality

>>131266140
Woke

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>>131269436
>The only people who prospered under communism in Poland were the traitors, kikes, and useful idiots
YOU THINK most Poles don't know this, especially the patriotic and nationalistic ones?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3VSKECLfqI

>>131269564
Look I'm not getting into this argument because I know Poles always bring it up but if we really are going to do this then by your logic Crimea belongs to one of the Germanic peoples because of its Gothic identity. It is a confirmed fact that the Germanic people were moved extremely westward by the Huns into the Roman Empire but by the time they had moved back, the Slavs and Balts had settled in. That land will be eternally contested by Slavs and Germans though.

>>131270443
It's not very uncommon in Poland to be rooted in local nobility, there are plenty of people like that.

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>>131270514
Poland wasn't the USSR. Poland wasn't a communist state that posed a threat to Europe. And the Germans never really considered the Soviets to be actual allies, just strange bedfellows temporarily for pragmatic purposes. If the West didn't declare war on Germany when they did, not only would Poland have suffered much less but Germany's attention would have immediately turned to planning a war with the Soviet Union, the only one Hitler really really wanted.

>>131269800
>Hitler liked Poland until he demanded they give up lands they'd won from Germany in a previous and they said no
>therefore Poland is in the wrong

>>131270971
Hitler didn't demand lands Poland had been granted by France after WW1. In fact he was the first German politician since WW1 to recognize Poland's western boundary and renounce claims on Posen and Upper Silesia. He only asked for recognition of the annexation of Danzig (Which was a free state, politically independent but in an economic union with Poland by League of Nations Mandate) and potential Pomerelia depending on the outcome of vote to be held in the region deciding who the contested land should go to (Determined by ethnic makeup)

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>>131270757
Yeah, yeah, Germans should give up their current lands to the Irish.

P.S. Old Germanians =/= Modern Germans.
P.P.S. Poles come PARTLY from East Germanic tribes like the Vandals and Lugii by the way.

>>131268318
he didn't hate Slavs, Jozef Pilsudski - a slav was his idol
Croats were in SS
heck, even Muslims and niggers were

keep believing in kike propaganda retard

>>131271167
my mistake
he didn't demand land, he just demanded a biased referendum that would obviously go in his favour

wtf i hate poles now

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>>131270443
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocPVPynYaAk
>>131270769
Most Poles should have some noble roots in them, as 10% of the the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth's population was noble (highest amount found anywhere in Europe).

>>131271418
Biased how exactly?

>>131271674
Poles who didn't live in the corridor before the end of WW1 were barred from voting, which would bias the voting towards the Germans

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>>131271167
>He only asked for recognition of the annexation of Danzig (Which was a free state, politically independent but in an economic union with Poland by League of Nations Mandate)
And I know it became majority German after the 18th century, but to put it into some larger historical context - pic rel.

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>>131271997
This is what Poland got after being for centuries too tolerant towards immigrants (Ostsiedlung) with different ethnicities (German) and religions (Protestant)...

>>131271997
it's better to lose whole country than to lose a small chunk of it
t. Polish strategy masters

>>131272078
Gdansk wasn't within Poland's borders genius. It was a free city then.

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fucking poles kurwa they fucked it up again

>>131271506
Interesting but would that not have made it very hard for a king to rule so many people who would want to do thing in their own interest rather than the countrys

>>131271997
And...? Danzig still wasn't actually part of the Polish Republic in 1939 so it wasn't really up to the Poles to say yes Danzig we allow you to leave Poland and join Germany. It was an independent state and if self determination means anything, it had the right to join Germany whenever it pleased. Only allied pressure prevented it from doing so. Now Germany was strong enough to reassert her position, she took what was hers.

>>131271918
And if all the Poles who moved there after driving out the Germans were allowed to vote wouldn't that be biased towards Poland?

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Hitler hated Sla-

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>>131266140
So many words, and yet you're just another retard who thinks that people back then could somehow predict the future but choose not to because the joooos.
>implying they could tell if UK would be a good ally or not
>implying Hitler gave a fuck about Piłsudski IRL
>implying we ultimately didn't profit from those events
>implying our country is now worse than it was ever before

>>131272507
Otto Skorzeny is not Slavic though... or is he?

>>131272460
>And if all the Poles who moved there after driving out the Germans were allowed to vote wouldn't that be biased towards Poland?
it would be biased towards the demographic of the land in question. Hitler demanded a vote where people who might disagree with him were barred from participating, then claimed to be working fairly for peace

The JIDF shills are out in full force again today... just like every sunday. Topkek.

>>131272739
his surname just sounds Polish, why would he bear it if he was an Austrian?
>His surname is of Polish origin and Skorzeny's distant relatives came from a village called Skorzęcin in Greater Poland region.

>>131272716
we'll talk when you don't post jidish propaganda pictures str8 from deddit

>>131272777
But it would be unfair if the Poles did not allow Germans who had been driven out after WW1 to vote as well would it not? Basically he wished for the vote to determined on the ethnic makeup of the area immediately after WW1, so Poles that had been there before 1918 could vote, but not new migrants to the region. That was also why another point in the plan (13 Point Plan I think) was the assurance of the protection of Polish and German minorities in both states or if the Poles wished, a population exchange where Poles living in Germany would be sent to Poland and vice versa.

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>>131272241
Well watch the video if you haven't already. Exactly what kinda happened. ;) It was kind of the point that the king couldn't be powerful and totalitarian. After all, he was voted in democratically by the nobles, like with today's presidents and PM's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Liberty

>>131272460
>Danzig still wasn't actually part of the Polish Republic in 1939 so it wasn't really up to the Poles to say yes Danzig we allow you to leave Poland and join Germany. It was an independent state
Exactly! I've made this point hundreds of times towards stupid neo-Nazi apologists who think it was within Poland's borders and that somehow it was a casus beli for WW2. Retards...

P.S. "us Prussians ... are the Poles equal brothers or their servants"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danzig_law

>>131272988
Well that's to be expected I suppose. Prussians and Austrians did mix with Poles quite a bit in some areas. Shame they couldn't get along.

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>>131273091
>polish cuck gets upset when somebody posts the truth
not surprised tbqh

>>131273225
Well my apologies but the point I was trying to make was that while it was politically independent it was in economic union with Poland and the Polish were threatening to take action against Danzig, that can't be denied. And obviously the Poles had some form of control over Danzig otherwise Hitler wouldn't even need to ask for it to be incorporated back into Germany. He'd just as well do it. But apparently he needed their permission for something or it wouldn't have become such a driving wedge between the two countries.

>le greatest yarn never spun

>>131273612
>He'd just as well do it. But apparently he needed their permission for something or it wouldn't have become such a driving wedge between the two countries.
He needed the permission of the League of Nations as it was their jurisdiction.

Is there any force in the universe greater than Polish saltiness?

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>>131274002
The Austrian wickedness.

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>>131274002
Watching theseI can't help but feel a bit salty. :/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjDAX26OBd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=906b6poQcro

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>>131274779
I'm sorry. :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc3zONK8ERk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB2rWJbWaRQ

for all Polish retards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy2ayAnpafA

>>131266140
Very interesting man.
He apparently didnt like getting taxed.

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o kurwa, pierwszy anon który rozumie to co mam w głowie od lat
jakie polskie czany przeglądasz? szanuję cię

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>>131275082
karachan

>>131274956
I've seen this already, but still. >>131267910

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>>131274002

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>>131275559

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>>131276351
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc3zONK8ERk

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>>131276413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB2rWJbWaRQ

>>131266140
Just for a second, can we talk about how fucking awful the "documentary" is? It's almost like it was made by a middle schooler with the fucking mixed bag of footage and retarded title cards and fucked up audio mixing throughout. Fuck it. Stop recommending this piece of shit, it's thoroughly awful.

t. Nazi

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Why is Dennis Wise too much of a pussy to show his face? He sounds like he's putting on an act.

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>>131266140
Poland friend, I commend you for looking at the history dispassionately, objectively, and returning a conclusion that is hard to take. The past is the past and I want no more brother wars. Indeed, I cannot warn you enough: You and your fellow Pole are being set up again. This time, the """enemy""" is Russia. Please warn your friends NOT to trust US/NATO.

President Trump is going to give a war speech on July 6th or 7th. Please look at how diseased America is. Show your friends the depravity of NYC today (the faggots are out in force for the GRIDS/anal fissure parade.) God bless you.

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>>131279388
>Faggoty word spooage from a NEET probably weighing over 250lbs.

>>131266140
>poland called russia for help
Dude Russia just conquered you together with the krauts. After the Krauts went rogue, they just conquered their half of poland.

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>>131276591
Dude, its segments are quick and to the point and actually red pill people. Should we keep producing 800 page tomes that only already initiated people would consider buying?

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>>131280560
And you do know that Hitler offered to evacuate Poland (except for the Corridor) and the Shabbos fucks rejected this, right? And the government got spirited away to London or elsewhere, safe and sound.

>>131276591
It's really not that bad. Besides, try find a professional editor who'll work on something like this.

>>131266140
fuck this faggot shit, go here >>131268280

>>131268490
Dying, but not dead. You'll do well not to boast about being alive while we are struggling. You will have no friends once we regain our power with that attitude.

>>131272716
it was mostly directed to russians because they allowed the blocheviks to rule them

Two years later he would have asked for more - he was supposed to be done annexing after the Sudetenland, remember?

That's the whole point of "appeasement didnt work" dumb ass

>>131283387
he didn't ask Italians or Croatians for 'more' despite years of allience

kill yourself you dumb yank