Why do millennials question religion but not science?

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>>131260763
too stupid to think for themselves
Ironic when talking about defending religion, I know, but it seems people born near the year ~2000 have an innate lack of the ability to critically think

Science = Facts
Religion = Made up stories by stupid people 1000 years ago

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>>131260763
Soe ain't aging well

>Why does *generalizes tens of millions of people*

Why do individuals post dumb shit like this on image boards?

>>131260931
> it seems people born near the year ~2000 have an innate lack of the ability to critically think

Certainly no less than the generations before them who were completely taken in by religion, the media, and politicians.

>>131260763
>Why do millennials question religion but not science?
>A philosophy of belief and not questioning.
>A philosophy of questioning everything as a method.
Gee.

Sure they do. They question genetic anthropology and statistics :^)

>>131260993
>Science
>Made up stories

Pick both.

>>131261435
>claims science is made up
>is using an advanced piece of computer tech to post on the internet

Do you drive a car? Ever been in an elevator?

If science is made up, then there is literally no such thing as facts.

>>131261188
Looks good to me.

Most people are just NPCs. It's possible evolution "decided" that a population can only support so many people really able to think on multiple levels.

I don't mean to say they are all stupid, exactly. Like... They could read a scientific paper and understand it but it would not occur to them to read into who did the science, who pays him, what he will and won't say to keep getting paid etc. Those are the different levels.

>>131260763
Now day science isn't really science.

>>131261435
When someone tells a scientist to, "Prove it," at least they try. :^)

that bitch is loud as hell. she was playing foosball backstage at a lan i was at and she was screaming obscenities at the top of her lungs the whole time as she was losing

>>131261506
how do you know the devil isnt making computers work just to confuse people?

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>>131260763

science is able to question itself, regligion is not

>>131261435
>made up stories

Except a lot of characters and events in the Bible can be traced to factual sources and locations.

>>131261688

And a lot of time they're either wrong or just straight-up lie

They've predicted the world running out of fossile fule and this planet dying due to global warming/cooling/climate change quite a few times now

>>131261688
Doesnt stop religioncucks to just move the goalposts though

>>131261506
Nah, I respect civil engineers and scientists advancing technology.

That's not what is meant though with "Science," capital S.

Gender is on a spectrum.
We're all Africans.
Stephen Hawking claiming he disproved God.

This all belongs in the trash, along with you.

>>131261826
[citation needed]

>>131261868
>I agree with you but you belong in the trash

>Gender is on a spectrum

This isn't science.

>We're all Africans

You're taking this out of context

>Stephen Hawking claiming he disproved God

Never happened

Kill yourself faggot.

>>131261908
Watch that Al Gore shit show, "Inconvenient Truth"

Scientists claim that at this rate, Florida will be submerged in the ocean by 7 years ago.

Just ponder on that for a while you fucking idiot Science believers. Realize that a lot of it is shit.

>>131261908

Can't tell if you're either lazy or a complete idiot

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=end+of+world+predictions

>>131261993
>Never happened

I would beat you to death.

Do some research you fucking moron.

Bullshit
Millenials don't know anything about science
also science and religion often intertwign
I am currently an agnostic used to be athiest
I'm trying to look through religions and see if any reach me
the small perfections and coincidences of the world make me wonder if there is a higher power

Even if I come out with nothing, I will still hate these non thinking athiests, who think they are so smart for not beleiving in god, an act that takes no effort at all

Then they use this as an excuse to be fucking whores (male and female sluts should be shamed, I don't know why feminists want it to stop for females when it should just be shaming for both)

Disgusting excuses for human beings, no better than just complex animals, with no purpose for themselves, only pleasure.

>>131261793

science is only as good as its axioms. and far too often today, those axioms include appeals to authority, appeals to political correctness, appeals to muh feels, etc. and science cares about none of these things. true science is an autistic, heartless bastard.

>>131260763
Because to them, "science" is whatever they believe in. If liberals actually gave a fuck about science, we wouldn't have immigration or feminism.

>>131262020
>>131262021
>Religious people are seriously relying on, "End of the world," politics and conflating it with science.
>The same religion with entire chapters devoted to end of the world scenarios they still believe.
You can't make this shit up.

>>131262061
>I would beat you to death

I would put a moonroof in your thick skull. I'm not going to research your bullshit claims. Provide a source or shut the fuck up you pimple-faced faggot.

>>131260763
I want to pinch her cheeks desu

>>131262020

Had to watch that video back in high school. Sucks that public school teachers are basically cultists that force their agenda down young student's throats

>>131261747
>that bitch
Soe? I have no idea who the other one is.

>>131261635
This. Most people just react to stimuli in a predetermined manner. If you give them any information that doesn't fit in with their model of the world theyll ignore it outright even if it's hard evidence like a video or something. The only reason they even experience emotions is just so they can flatter their narcissistic selves.

Honestly beginning to understand what most serial killers are on about, feeling bad about offing one of these soulless husks is like feeling bad about squashing a bug

>>131262020
I've seen some correlate the left to a religion, when a better comparison is a cult

>>131260763

>questioning science

Questioning science is what science is, you dumb bitch.

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>>131260763
>Hurr science is sponsored by the government, they can't lie to me!!!
They kill the children's mind and logic in schools.

Stop sending your children to school.

>>131262142
Look it up you fucking idiot.

You would not be the first person I'd kill.

>>131260763
science is more convincing nowadays

>>131260763
Because they don't understand how science works, like most people.

>>131262137

Let me know when there exists a religion I care about that predicts the end of the world

Hint: There isn't one, and there never will be

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>>131261291
>Certainly no less than the generations before them who were completely taken in by religion, the media, and politicians.
Good point. The cycle continues

Because humans are stupid.

>>131261803
Literally Jesus is a personification of the sun, and was never real.

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>>131261908
>[citation needed]
oh look, a teenage summerfag. don't you have some reading to do?

>>131262245
>can't even source his own claims

Like I said, I'm not doing your work for you. You wont kill anyone you gigantic fucking pussy. The only thing you would do when confronted is start sucking dick because it's your natural state.

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>>131260763
Product of a post-enlightenment society. Maybe a little marxist influence from academia.

>>131262137
>In denial about Science being a load of shit.

But muh cumpooterz.

Probably made by someone that believed in God.

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>>131262298
>Jesus is a personification of the sun
No

>>131262275
>Religions don't have end of the world scenarios!
You poor child.

>I don't care about religion.
Glad we agree.

>>131262208
as I said in thread
these things are more like complex animals than what I would call "human"
most of them only look to their own pleasure
nothing is important to them asside from ideals they are told to like
they might as well be dogs, sitting when told
too bad they are told to speak far to often
it's disgusting we share this planet with them

>>131260763
They only accept science when it matches their own beliefs

>>131262360
>this poster prayed to get his response on 4chan, instead of typing

>>131260931
if you just follow along it doesn't matter if you're right, you will receive some support in any case

the flipside is of course that you must be ok with the basic support society gives to you. You will never be better because you have found nothing yourself

>>131262131
This, the bell curve and inherent differences between the sexes are science too but are rejected or ignored outright by the neil degrasse Tyson pole smokers. They only use science in a way that confirms their religious beliefs about the world just like everyone else who came before them.

The problem now is they don't have any issue violating the 1rst amendment with their religious beliefs because they're incapable of understanding that they're a member of a religion just like everyone else.

True atheists are actually exceptionally rare, I'm finding

>>131262245
I would literally beat you to death and smash your fucking teeth in.

Stephen King claimed he "scientifically" disproved God. If you're too lazy to look it up yourself then you deserve the hellfire that awaits you. Truth is too much for you.

>>131260993
>Science = Facts
lol, not in this day and age. You can't even trust peer reviewed studies anymore.
I always take every new "discovery" with a grain of salt.

>>131262470
>Stephen King

>>131262298
>Being this fucking stupid.
>Flag
>Checks out.

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>>131260763
>be millennial
>believe global warming
>doesnt believe populations reproductively isolated for 10's of thousands of years could evolve differently

>>131260763
That's a good question!

I question science frequently. For example, when they discover a "new planet" around some star. Bullshit! all they discovered was an impreceptibly small variation in the light from a star. even our most powerful telescopes can't see a distant planet.

Modern medicine is mostly meta studies. Just data crunching health and diet habits and massage the number until it "proves" sugar is bad, or good, or whatever the researcher wants.

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>>131261506

Just because some science is correct doesn't mean all science is.

See: man-made global warming baloney.

>>131262455
that's because true athiests usually end up converting or becoming agnostic
look at Dawkins recently it looks like he's close to coming to the conclusion that spreading athiesm is cancer, and that these morons have no morality on their own without god telling them what to do

>>131262509
Oh shit, you got me on a typo.

Fuck I guess I lost.

No, not really. Stephen Hawking still claims he scientifically disproved God.

One day you'll look it up.

Research in technology aside, Science is a lot of horse-shit like what Hawking spews out.

>>131262557
only superficial differences like melanin and eye color desu. only superficial things.

>>131262651
I did look it up.

The source of him saying it is, "El Mundo."

>>131262605
>See: man-made global warming baloney.

Anon...

>>131262605
if it's not correct then it by definition isn't science

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>>131262605
>only the science the republicans tell me to believe is ok

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None of you dumb fucks have so much as mentioned reproducability yet. The scientific method doesn't lend itself at all, not one single fucking bit, to dogma.

When some sadistic pedo fuck like John Money can cauterize some little boy's dick off and call him a girl, heralding his preconceived conclusion as success because the kid he tortured thinks he's a woman, you haven't proven the existence of "gender".

These "social sciences" are fucking toxic. The only thing giving psychology any genuine credibility, besides that there are too many whales trying to inject their half-baked philosophies in order to justify deviant behavior.

Science and the scientific method aren't a problem, it's people treating their horrible studies as empirical when it supports a given bias.

Fuck.

>>131262684
>I did look it up.
>The source of him saying it is, "El Mundo."

Alright dude. Holy shit. I concede.

Your research skills are so fucking bad that I will link it for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L7VTdzuY7Y

You win, bro. You should explain this Science though ^

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>>131262713
>>131262761
>>131262766

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHqPF30jg2w

>>131260763
the one on the left maybe cute for now, but the wrinkles she already has, tell she won't age well

>>131262651
You haven't provided a single fucking source. Everything Hawking says isn't considered science (even by him). You don't actually understand what constitutes a fact from fiction, so I'm not surprised. Basically people like you should be put in work camps since you're basically a danger to yourself an everyone around you.

>2017
>people choosing religion over science
Religion - Some made up children-tier miracle story.
Science - A process that always follows the evidence, makes predictions, and comes up with conclusions what is very likely or unlikely. Doesn't claim everything to be 100% true, is open to discussion and questioning.

I choose science.

>>131262874
>One senile man's ramblings refutes international peer reviewed consensus

Science don't real!

>>131262865
>God is redundant to the creation of the universe because we have actual working theories on this now.
Yes? And he's right. And just like religion has done for thousands of years you'll retreat and redefine your god or claim that Genesis is a "metaphor" or "symbolic" to move the goal posts. You'll redefine god and the meaning of your holy book to stay relevant in a time that's moving faster than you can revise your wording.

I can tell all you did was read the sensationalist headlines.

>>131262822
I think you could refer to science like news
news that doesn't present fact or is misrepresenting fact is fake news, not actually news
same goes to science
>>131262874
I'm not argueing against you, I am saying that you are argueing that global warming isn't science, which I'm not going to support or deny, as I don't have much knowledge in that field.

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>>131262970
>one scientist who founded an entire media empire on weather study does not have a valid opinion on weather-based science

>>131260763
>Why do millennials question religion but not science?

science is the constant questioning of everything. religion is fairy tales to scare children into behaving.

they only deny/question things that negatively impact their fucked up world view - period

Just because some science is fact doesn't mean it all is - too much of science is biased in a way that either supports the hand that feeds or that supports the desired result - cui bono

>>131262952
>Doesn't claim everything to be 100% true, is open to discussion and questioning.


This

>>131262970
/pol/ is the right wing counterpart of the SJW and we wuz kangz movements. Rationality and objectivism doesn't have a place here

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>>131263016
See, this is what im talking about. You don't know how science works. Just because he founded the weather channel doesn't mean he gets to dispute the data. You're using a logical fallacy (appeal to authority). I would say it's not your fault, but as Trump said: "There is no excuse for not being informed"

>>131263032
if it's not fact or biased it isn't science
do you just not understand the concept?
you should question everything proclaimed to be science, in order to see if it actually is science

>>131260763
Scientific facts are proven through collective observation. Religion has yet to be proven.
>>131260931
Enlighten us then. How does thinking critically prove the existence of god? In science, you critique theories in an attempt disprove them. Scientists welcome and encourage critique.

Fucking tired of feminists, SJWs, and retarded conservatives throwing around the term "critical thinking," thereby devaluing its meaning.

>>131260763
Because science is their religion.

>>131262970
I don't remember the exact numbers, but only about 35% of the studies the IPCC went through actually corresponded with their views. A little over 60% of the scientists asked to sign the report refused, because they either disagreed, or thought the results were inconclusive.

>>131263199
but they don't actually support science, they only support what they proclaim to be science

>>131263114

Many people disputed the data, he describes how they (politicians) took those who bought into it and funded their research, giving scientists a huge incentive to support global warming.

>>131263247
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/#footnote_1

The data is very clear, and so is the consensus.

>>131261188
She's a kike thats why

Because you're not meant to treat Science as a faith. Science is a set of tools you use to measure reality and to discern what is and isn't true to reality. You can question the scientific means that were used but you can't question "science" itself because it makes no sense.

>>131263199
Science is not a religion.

>>131263341
>Many people disputed the data
[citation needed]

The ((people)) who disputed the data were fossil fuel companies who suppressed their own research that came to the same conclusion as the rest of the world's scientists.

>>131262925
Bro. I'm sorry. But Science is shit. Almost everything we say about the past (pre-History) is pure conjecture. The Big Bang Theory, how old the universe is, how old the Earth is, how the moon came to be, when Dinosaurs actually existed, etc. because when you realize the margins for error, they practically have no real information about anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji2cvuJ1mYg&t

A lot of other science is politicized bullshit like Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth and Gender being on a spectrum.

Outside of technological advancement, "Science" is a false dogma.

>>131260993
You prove the point

>>131263302
Exactly, and any actual science that goes against their performed beliefs is ignored or attacked. See: Charles Murray's entire career

>>131263470
No one is saying science is perfect, that isn't it's purpose. Even scientists themselves don't think the work they do or the conclusions they come to are perfect. You fundamentally don't understand the purpose of science. The point is that without the scientific method, facts literally don't exist. You would sit here and shit all over science and then ask me to open a bible?

>>131262981
HAHAHA that's not what he says, retard.

Yeah, you are in fucking denial. Please find the whole video of that clip I sent you (you'll probably make me do it). No retard, Hawking claims he disproves God. He says he has the math to show it too.

You are in fucking denial. Science outside of technology research is trash and dogmatic.

Much of the stuff that is regularly presented as science is in fact deliberate fraud or just pain bad science.
That's an established fact.
If you are flying in there like a tit to say that this isn't so you just prove the point that OP made ironically or otherwise

>>131263470
the big bang theory isn't proven science
how old the universe is, is not a completely proven science, the earths age is getting close to proven science
the moon is still in theory stage, when dinosaurs existed has been empirically proven and is science.
Please learn a bit
science is a method and fact, people just use it as a blanket word for theory and study because it's convenient

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>>131263462
>[citation needed]

You mean the fucking video I linked?

>>131263671
Well, if he proved it all there is left for you to do is accept it.

>>131260763
Because questioning religion is their religion.

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>>131263470
Also, you don't get to just exempt technology from science. That is pure retardation. How do you think we have such insane tech?

>>131263718
Does the video have data that is different than the data in my post?
>>131263381
I'm not going to watch an old man ramble for 30 minutes just because you're stupid enough to believe him. Loving the smug reaction images when you're clearly out of touch with reality.

Because millenials know they can't change people's mind about what's acceptable as religion, but social science and stuff like common core math, that a concept they can use to stay lazy and make it sound like their mental disorders are normal cause social science and common core math. Just label it a science and no one questions it

>>131263590
>No one is saying science is perfect,
Not many understand how wrong Science can be either. You fundamentally don't understand how Science gets used in politics to push bullshit ideas like Inconvenient Truth and Gender being on a spectrum.

Read the OP. People do not question Science enough. People think, "Oh shieet, scientizts r sayin the world is gonna blow up in 5 years n shieet! We gotta stop pollutin!"

Literally need to fucking understand how wrong "agreed upon Science" has been before, and realize they are still just as wrong today.

>>131263671
>you'll probably make me do it

Why the fuck wouldn't you just provide adequate sources when making your claims? Why do this song and dance unless you're either mentally deficient, or lacking in proof?

>>131263911
>I'm not going to watch an old man ramble for 30 minutes just because you're stupid enough to believe him. Loving the smug reaction images when you're clearly out of touch with reality.
At least you said it to the right person.

>>131263740
His proof for why God doesn't exist is complete shit, my friend.

This is the tier of shit that gets passed as "Science" today.

>>131263991
I was self-referencing the data referred to in the post. Try to keep up.

>>131264017
>It doesn't exist! It's shit! blah blah blah
I take it you're a well established scientist that disproved it then?

>>131263865
this is a much better version of
>>131263199

>>131263937
social science isn't science as it does not go through the method
>>131263956
science literally is perfect
it's science as a label that is shit
they are claiming stuff that isn't science, is science
inconvenient truth was fake science and intellectually dishonest
gender spectrum has jot actually been tested or confirmed, not even close
neither are science
please stop misusing the term

but science has become so watered down it isn't just facts anymore.

>they think gender is a social contract
>you say they don't question science

>>131263956
The fact that you keep capitalizing science is proof that you're the one peddling the dogma. The fact that you think you get to pick and choose what science is real is hilarious but it also worries me for the future of this country.

>>131264048
Sure you were.

>>131262061
You'd only beat your dick to death you fucking retard.
>le science is a meme le if you don't agree id beat you!!!

>>131260763
Because Science doesn't make you question and change your own behavior as a condition of accepting it.

You can be a secular humanist, drink constantly, do drugs, have sex with multiple partners, act like an idiot in public, ridicule people with different opinions, mutilate your body, and still feel like a good person.

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>>131263911

Yeah you're right, here's more arguments and more actual data pointing out global warming is political bullshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCy_UOjEir0

>>131260763
>ITT religitards project onto science and scientists of what they demand of religion
I mean, if all you have is a hammer for a solution I guess every problem looks like a nail.

>>131260763
Millennials are expected to be the most religious generation in a century. They are already the most conservative generation and many aren't even adults yet.

>most young adults rebel against parental values
>Boomers are the most hypocritically religious or sacrilegious of the lot.

>>131261506
>if science is made up, then there is literally no such thing as facts.
Bingo. Every post beneath are shills

>>131264247
Why does a secular humanist feel the need to describe oneself as "good"?

>>131264253
I take it that one was meant for yourself.

>>131261506
In reality the totality of truth is incomprehensible to humans. Every "fact" is simply a single perspective of an entirely massive reality.

>not to say that opinions are facts or that facts can contradict each other, but that facts are inherently subjective to the position of the observer.

>>131263911
>Also, you don't get to just exempt technology from science. That is pure retardation. How do you think we have such insane tech?

Yes I can. It really does suck that scientists that build shit and invent things get paired up with retards like Hawking that claims he disproves God, or pre-historic scientists that make claims based on pure conjecture, or "scientists" that claim gender is on a spectrum. Or the scientists in "Inconvenient Truth" that claimed Florida would be submerged in the Atlantic by the year 2011.

We really don't know anything about the past. We don't know what happened billions of years ago, and we don't even know if the Universe really is that old. People believe in Science like it's a dogma and unquestionably take it as if it were a cultish religion.

>>131264521
Spoken like a true post-modern marxist.

>>131261188
wow she actually looks female in this one

>>131260763
They question traditional religion, but so what. So does every faggot nerd autist that wants to jack his cock off. It means nothing, and you're not smart.
However they have they own social blasphemies, thoughts that are heresy, and innately accepted truths.
Science seems to indicate there are differences between men and women, and differences between races.
However these thoughts are heresy to many millennials.
Blacks have markedly lower iq's and are detrimental to western civilization? Blasphemy against egalitarianism.
Women are generally happier being submissive to a husband, and raising kids? Heresy against feminism.
Economics tend to prove free markets are usually the default better choice than a command system. From this default of "No" begins deciding when this doesn't apply. This is however against the innately accepted truth, that communal perspective is the default foundation from which to attempt engineering a society, and only after decades of failure can a line of thought be discarded, such as communism.
Facts and the ever revered logic and reason and evidence are entirely disregarded in these instances, and only faith in some stated truth, same as someone a thousand years ago utterly believing their zeus would bless the grain harvest or whatever because the choice goat was gutted in his honor, remains.

>>131264171
I've been capitalizing the "S" in Science for a reason, you fucking baboon.

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>>131264601
Nah, just a Christfag who sciences.

>>131260763
Maybe because science is based on proof while religion is based on myths and some old books filled with lies

>>131264246
I would unironically fuck all the females in your family in front of you and then murder you.

>>131264553

So what you're trying to tell me is that geology, astronomy and Paleontology AREN'T science? Because if that's the case then you're just fucking retarded.

>>131264648
>feminism/liberalism takes more blind belief than any religion

But also, Millennials that are having kids are having extremely large (5+) families. They're choosing to opt out of public education (1 in 5 homeschools or plans to). They generally ascribe to a belief but do not choose to participate in organized services.

Conservativism and religion are the backbone of the new counter-culture.

>>131264852
>Maybe because science is based on proof while religion is based on myths and some old books filled with lies

Helps your country surviving for centuries to come now, doesn't it?

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>>131260763
Because they are educated to believe in science.

>>131264852
>proof
As if you have ever actually seen this proof.

>>131265151
>because feminism has prevented women from instilling virtue
We allowed this, gents.

It's terrible. They only apply skepticism to God. Every peer reviewed turd that crosses their eyes is taken as complete truth. They lack sense, in all things.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/02/22/whites-genetically-weaker-than-blacks-study-finds.html

Scientists are fallible and all major institutions have been compromised for some time now. If you're a herd animal I guess you could never do any better than just listening to whatever you're told, though. Can't really be helped. Bad instincts. History is cyclic.

>>131262477
well you can trust peer reviewed studies.....

>>131264961
You're retarded for believing in Science because we've invented some gizmos that work. You're not even understanding the main point of this thread, which is that millennials unquestionably believe in what Scientists have to say, even though they are constantly wrong and constantly re-assess what is truth.

>B-but that's the point! That is how Scientific thought grows! What's true today is not necessarily true tomorrow!

Fucking idiot. Missing the point. If the "scientific truth" of today isn't the truth of tomorrow, then it isn't the truth at all. It's just WHAT WE CURRENTLY THINK is the truth. But people treat it like it's facts. We don't often say, "yeah, they don't know that for sure." All of a sudden you railed by Science-believers that say, "WOW WTF, ARE YOU A STUPID REDNECK HICK? IT'S FUCKING SCIENCE DUDE. THEY HAVE PROOF. IT'S REAL. FUCKING SCIENCE DENIERS ARE GONNA KILL US ALL, WATCH."

>>131265404
Scientists are the priests of the Atheist and the Moderntard. They make them feel more comfortable, and that's the only thing that really matters for these people.

>>131262605
anthro climate change is correct

the things that are bullshit is 1 gorillian genders and other similar nonsense

>>131265522
Atheism isn't a religion, its the abscence of religion.

What is wonderful with science is that if you doubt anything you can verify it by yourself. But most of you are too retarded to do again the discoveries.

I agreee that some (((((science))))) is bullshit, like race science and all of that, its just held by jews.

>>131265664
>anthro climate change is correct

no

>>131265712
>Atheism isn't a religion, its the abscence of religion.

I know the meaning of the word. But everyone has a religion, something always rushes to fill a vacuum.

>>131265739
compelling argument

>>131265712
>Atheism isn't a religion
You should look up what religion means.

"Science" (with a capital S) I'm not sure if it's a religion or a cult.

>tfw you cucks will never reconcile the bonds religion creates while pushing for rigid understanding of the world

top kek, very nice bread

>>131265829
volcanoes

>>131265805
I don't. Why would there be a meaning?
Why would i need to fill this vaccum with easy and false answers?

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>>131264852
Hey reddit how's freshman year going?

>>131265712
it us a religion given the way they treat it
I would argue most people saying they are athiest aren't actually athiest

Trash read some European philosophy, modern humanism developed from Christianity, this is why pope insists to taking refugees, not becouse he is some kind of kike.

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>>131261188
muh duk

>>131265873
>Why would i need to fill this vaccum with easy and false answers?

Ask yourself that?

>>131262020
Guess you ignore all the construction that has happened over the last two decades to stop the water rising, and the abnormally high tides lately.
My bosses childhood house in Trinidad is 4 feet under water because of climate change. Cricket field he used to play on is now a small swamp.

>>131265843
if I remember right a lot of physicists and astronomors in the early 1900s were hardcore thiests, not necessarily christian though.

>>131261506
>thinking that facts exist
wew lad please dont tell me you are this naive

>>131261868
Fuck Social Sciences, But that shouldn't be the default use of the word science,

Real science debunks every one of those arguments and only nutcases who try to gain legitimacy in the real sciences pull that shit.

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>>131260763

one supports the way they want to live. the other doesn't

>>131260763
Because 'Science' is their Religion

>>131265970
The easy and false anwers are religion:
there is a god that created everything and nothing created it, its incoherent but fuck it its true because its written in ths book and the book is true because its god's word and god exist because its written in the book...

Or:
Multiple hypothesis that can be rationally explained but not totally proven. For example, we could be a higgs field destabilization of another universe with different physics law, that could permit the creation of the universe to be rational.
Or, using the uncertainty principle, we could be born from absolutely nothing. (less potable tho)

>>131265211
I have seen enought to know 90% of the science in schools and elsewhere is real. Gve me some good exaples if you have any

>>131266209
You are just choosing to believe in something else.

they don't even believe highlander series was a documentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmUrHr9UvMo

>>131265920
That is so sweet and beautiful.

>>131265971
That's not the point. I don't deny climate change. I believe in things like ice ages and periods of heating, the fact is though, they boldly made the claim that most of Florida would be under seas 7 years ago. I'm sure their projections for 2017 included California having a new coastal line as well.

The point is to not treat "Science" like it's the truth and just run with whatever is said.

>>131260763
They do question science because it often doesn't fit with their SJW rules.
What they blindly believe is SCIENCE! (tm)
They are no better than the religious.
Also it's not just millenials, it's normies in general.

>>131266263
Its not believing, because those are facts. If you don't agree with facts, you can still try to do again the reasoning and discoveries of those facts.

Why will this thread get 300 replies?

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>>131266290
underboob is the superior angle of viewing unexposed breasts

>>131266334
well said

>>131266290
If they ignored the data and the science miami would be under water, and a lot of other cities as well. They are called projections for a reason, and it has prevented a lot of distress.

>>131266334
They are not facts. They are hypotheses, that you've chosen to believe in.

There are no facts that contradict God. High level physics theories are just intellectual masturbation, I'm not even sure if half of them are provable or replicable.

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>>131266024
Yes. Lemaître, the many who came up with the theory of the big bang, was a Catholic Priest.

>>131266558
dumbest shit I've read today

>>131266594
*the man

>>131266576
So you are proving my point?

>>131266558
They are facts. If you are willing to spend a million year to prove that with your low IQ and without any religious bias, you would found the same thing.

What is brang without facts can be denied without facts. There are absolutely no facts that god exist. Hence, the probalility of him existing is almost 0%

>>131266626
Atheists always say this when they're uncomfortable. Everyone who disagrees is stupid. They value intelligence but don't know what it looks like.

>>131266714
you posted some edgy garbage to prove that atheists aren't edgy, good job

>>131266745
Wow, you people are all the same xDD >>131266770

>>131260763
Science is their greater power, although they have but a nigger-tier grasp of it, meaning that they know it is science which gives them their gadgets (iPhones and whatnot) that allow them to promote themselves so they idolize it. Self-worship is the religion of the millenials.

>>131262235
This. A thousand times, this. Millennials believe in science, which is the exact opposite of what science is. For them, the white coat is the new priests collar and they accept what they're told science says without bothering to read or understand it for themselves.

>>131260763
They're following a fad, neutered, watered-down "science", to seem like intellectuals to hide their otherwise painfully average intellect.

>>131266509
Florida hasn't sunken into the Atlantic. Neither has New York, or California.

They were wrong about certain things then.

So when scientists say things now and we say, "Umm, hold on, let's not jump to any conclusions here," we get liberals yelling about how it's facts and science deniers are destroying the world.

No, it's not even fair to call me a science denier. I'm just treating science exactly how it should be treated, with a ton of fucking skepticism.

>If they ignored the data and the science miami would be under water
In terms of CO2 emissions, we haven't changed that much on a global scale. If they were right, Florida would literally be underwater right now.

>>131267010
inb4 someone comments about California sinking into the Atlantic.

>>131266770
>Atheists always say this when they're uncomfortable.
As the frensh said: "If you don't agree with facts, you can still try to do again the reasoning and discoveries of those facts."
Claim to make atheists uncomfortable by saying there are no facts that contradict God. If several things in the bible are PROVEN to be wrong then how can you say that nothing goes agaist god? Show some good arguments instead of your belife in your own theories

>>131260763
because they're not nationalists.

you cannot be a nationalist and a global warming advocate at the same time. global warming is an issue that requires cooperation with outside governments, something that nationalists can't face up to by definition.

>>131266820
I think you forgot to turn on the VPN.

>>131266770
I told you that if you don't believe facts, go unprove them yourself.

>>131262308
Reading 29 right now.

>>131266119
Sorry, but social science IS science now, and engineers and tech guys are seen as problematic. They aren't inventing anything anymore because grants are only given to pansexual, demi-gendered mulattos researching kangtum physics.

>>131267099
How do I unproven something that hasn't been proven?

>>131267093
Nothing in the Bible has been proven wrong as far as I know.

>>131267237
>How do I unproven something that hasn't been proven?
Same can be applied to the bible, nothing in the real science (exclude social science and kangz science) has been proven wrong as far as I know.

>>131267237
>nothing in the Bible has been proven wrong

oh my sides

that's because they're myths that are by definition non-verifiable and therefore improvable.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bible

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>>131267237
>Nothing in the Bible has been proven wrong as far as I know.

bonjourno

>>131260993
>Science = Facts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQDBNJ3mPa0

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>>131261321
i like. have a reply.

>>131262557
>breed pugs from German shepherds
>pugs and GSD are still the same species

pottery

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>>131260763

Because they don't know jackshit about science, or religion in that regards. Better they don't know shit at all. Millenials things reading reddit, following cnn or twitter and checking Wikipedia sometimes is educating yourself. On top of that most millenials doesn't have any work experience or any experience how to communicate socially with people around them because they think the real world is facebook.

>>131261826
taking just a second to laugh at "fossile fule",
we are using it faster than it is getting replaced, do you not think it will run out?

>>131260763
For the vast majority of people "science" is akin to a religion and scientists to its clergy.

Im not anti-science but I'm certainly opposed to this desperate attempt to form a god from nothingness.

>>131267666
>engineer who does """science"""

>>131265392
wanna bet? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1420798/
there's heavy bias in some groups making all their research doubtful

>>131260763
the bill-nye-science has been fed to them throughout their schooling years. they've been taught to accept and not to question; while being pushed into being gay dummies

>>131261506
>if scientific theories seem to adequately explain reality to the point complex machines can be created then all science must be true
This is exactly what we're talking about. It's the new, new age religion.

>>131260763
Science= no punishment for your actions and that's what kids want

>>131261868
>We're all Africans.
Will you accept science now that they found evidence that suggests humanity was born in Europe?

>>131260763
First of all, what's up with all the religion-apologists here on /pol/? Somehow you think that Christianity is good, even though obviously false, because it is good for society. Why do you think it's good for society? Because it prevents people from being degenerate and nihilistc? Religion is more nihilistic than atheism. Not only because they choose to throw objective reality out the window in favor for stability, but also because everything is settled in the afterlife. God makes everything all right. He punishes the sinners and rewards the ones whose life has been unfair. It doesn't matter what you do as long as you follow the commandments, it's good for you to stay out of all conflicts because there is a chance that God finds your enemy to be morally right and therefore punishes you, but there is no chance of him punishing you if you just stay out of it all.

But on to your question. Millennials probably DO question science, not all but the ones smart enough, and when they do they quickly realize how well-motivated every scientific idea is and they instantly get tons of proof for whichever thing they search up; in contrast with religion which you only can understand through dehydration and psychedelic drugs in the desert, combined with retardation and nothing better to do.

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>>131260763
>mfw both are supposed to be questioned

>>131261826
>They've predicted the world running out of fossile fule
That's the truth. The bit where it often becomes bullshit is in predicting a timescale as the markets become involved; people either want to create a perception of imminent scarcity or to postpone it.

People tend to have this belief scientists are all independent entities who seek only the truth when they're just people fully capable of succumbing to harmful influences

>Americans dislike science
Everytime, american fucking education. Its not that Science lies, its that americans give it a bad fucking name and dont even want to learn anything

>>131268423
This is why so many christians are politically illiterate cucks who are afraid of conflict. Here in Sweden the most enthusiastic immigrant-importers, even worse than SJWs, are christfags, because taking third world illiterate cock in your economic asshole is currently seen as good.

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>>131260763
It's way easier.

>>131260993
Science today = tool used by people with power and money using biased fake research institutes to push their own narrative to publish them on newspapers with clickbaity titles
What science should be = knowledge about facts, getting errors to minimum

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>>131260993
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>>131268963
Millennials spotted

>>131268963
Except that the first scientists were theists and still most of them are

>>131269167
well done, thanks for the (You)

The point of science is to question everything.

Idiots seem to think that science is infallible.

>>131269167
You do know hitler didn't like christianity either right? You're living in a lie and all your beliefs are shit.

>>131269167
Retard without arguments potted

>>131260763
science is questioning you fucking moron

>>131261321
>A philosophy of questioning everything as a method.
You must be from 30 years ago friend. Welcome to 2017, things have changed a bit.

Idiots ITT still think that science is based on "proof" and "facts". There is no such thing as scientific proof.

>>131267921
>we are using it faster than it is getting replaced,
There is scientific evidence to refute your claim. Many wells that have been abandoned for decades have filled back up to the same levels as when they were discovered. My sister is a geologist with Exxon and we were discussing this topic a few days ago.

>>131269996
From what do you make these asumptions?

>>131270088
From definitions. Learn about scientific method. ITs a popular misconception that such thing as "scientific proof" exist, but in reality its either your theory is working or not. And your theory should be verifiable, i.e. it is not something "settled" or "proven 100%"

>>131260763
>Why do millennials question religion but not science?
Nothing changed, people didn't and still don't question religion.
It's just that "popular science" and "technology" is the current religion.

>>131268963
religion leads to science.

>>131267632
1. The Bible doesn't say the Earth is flat.

2. Technically speaking, neither the Sun nor the Earth truly revolve around each other. They both have an equal and opposite effect on each other, the Earth's is more pronounced because it is the smaller object. There is a space in between the Earth and the center of the Sun that they truly revolve around. This is true for all planetary bodies in our Solar System.

>According to science.

It still doesn't disprove something said in The Bible.

>>131270288
This is true.

>>131270082
So you think reserves that have taken millions of years to fill up will never end? Maybe the few or single case you speak about happened because there where still oil in the rocks around that leaked in?
There are many sources that have ended and in ex. Canada they have turned to fracking since many oil springs have ended

>>131267143
their choice. Societies that neglect hard sciences will be outperformed by others who don't.
I hope the west will enjoy falling into irrelevance.

>>131268400
That's the point though. Just because they found the "current earliest human fossil evidence" doesn't mean we originated from that place.

This is what I mean by science not being treated the way it should. We draw our conclusions so fast.

>>131270643
I think as long as chinks are still dying to their own escalators we still have the upper hand.

>>131270082
Sounds like she was a diversity hire.

>>131270546
You can google like everyone else. Your understanding of fossil fuels is obviously very limited to what you learned in your government provided school. The farthest we have drilled is 12,000 meters and we found that the earths crust is incredibly porous. Porous soil allows for what? Thats right, it allows for substances such as liquids to move through it. Go inhale some more fumes you retarded excuse of a butt monkey.

>>131260993
Religion is really a moral code that's enforced with "if you don't follow this, you're a bad person whose going to hell". These morals are normally required to maintain a healthy society. If lost, the only way to fix society is through fascism, else it will collapse and be conquered by a stronger society.

Why do millennials question everything but their own ignorance?

>>131270854
No she has her masters and is writing her thesis for her doctorate now. Pretty damn smart tbqh and ugly as hell.

>>131260763
Science backs up it's claims with evidence and uses logic whereas religion does neither

>>131271168
Let's not forget the crusades, clearly we are handling this middle-east problem incorrectly.

>>131260763
>>131261346

>>131271168
>Science backs up it's claims with evidence
You're using the word evidence rather loosely don't you think?

>>131271080
Then why can she offer no alternative explanation for that than "lol fossil fuels are ininite"?

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>>131260763
Because science is their religion.

>not questioning science
Good goys!

“There is an error in [Einstein's] equations. We know what it is. We now have the capability to travel to the stars.” - Ben Rich

Just look up epigenetics if you want a "scientific fact". Shit is literally Lamarckian evolution.

>>131261793
>science is able to question itself

What is global warming.

science is nothing more than doing what the funding tells you to do.

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>today science is corrupt
>therefore God
Fucking awesome logic.

>>131262208
Chill out, Raskolnikov.
just kidding, don't.

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>>131260763
>1 post by this ID
Everytime

Because science is based on observation and facts and not retarded fairytales

>>131269198
But their theism didn't cure the polio.

>>131260763
sience is their religion

>>131272448
We already believe in God.

We're just not surprised Science is corrupted.

>>131263693
>when dinosaurs existed has been empirically proven and is science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji2cvuJ1mYg&t

>>131260763
Because they, like all people, believe what they're told. They don't question anything. The only reason they have a hateful opinion towards Christianity is because of Jewish television programs (such as Family Guy, South Park etc.) which tells them that it's laughable.

>>131260993
>ancap
>dumb retard
Pick two

>>131260763
Because religion is pretty retarded tbqh

>>131260763
Religion beggins when science ends. Science can be proven with different methods. Religion is only based on faith. Now the correct question is not why people believe in science by why people believe that science is better than religion. Pro tip it cant be proven

The Bible says most people will go to Hell.

That's proof enough for me.

>>131260763
Because they haven't come to appreciate what an appeal to authority is yet or why it's bullshit. They want some kind of certainty to cling on to and when "science" is mirroring all the social propaganda they're getting everywhere else, they think they're on the right track.

>>131260763
Because they cant read science papers.

>>131270405
only one religion which states:
truth will set you free
>>131269198
no correlation, they didn't apply their personal believes in their work on essential level (religion might be their driving force and morality source though)

Because half of them don't understand science in the first place and want to jump on the Anti-Religion bandwagon.

Why do protestants hate science so much?

Because they can't question something they cannot comprehend. I wish the same could be said for atheists.

>>131260763
You are the dumbest shit I've come across today.

That's saying a lot.

>>131276265
>they didn't apply their personal believes in their work on essential level
That's not true. Some of them prayed for knowledge and wisdom and for guidance from God on how to approach their challenges.

Ramanujan even went a step further and said he was handed down mathematical formulas from a deity.

>>131262370
haha 2017, still believing "Josh" was a real person

>>131261793
Try having a critical conversation on climate change. Oh wait, you can't because that is settled science and can no longer be questioned.

>>131260763
This is a good classic troll thread

>>131266898
I've been saying this for...5 years now.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who realized this.
This falls into the "97%" argument. People who have now concept of what science and the scientific method are always try to argue that the "experts" are infallable. It's sad to see so many people never grasping what science really is

>>131260993
i dont understand how anyone can question god. isnt that scary? what about hell!

And science dont get me started. I know we're all supposed to be using science to figure out stuff thats why we should never question it

>>131271805
that don't make no sense nigga wasn't Trump telling NASA not to research climate change and shit, but they still do.

>>131260763
2

>>131260763
Science is the new religion.

>1 post by this ID
>Obvious slide thread
Inb4 200 repli--fk guys seriously

>>131276179
This. 100% this.
Get into an argument with a millennial and they will always say "studies say..." Then ask them for the study, they will always condescendingly tell you to use Google, but when you do find it you will be taken to a news site. From there you will see how only the "journalist" reads the abstract of the study, and that's it. Once you read the entire study, including their methods, you realize what utter garbage it is

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>>131261764
how do you know the devil isn't made up bullshit to impose social order and societal control?

Duh because its 'science'. They are automatons.

>>131277787
You may ponder on this while you burn in hell and breathe in suffocating ash constantly.

>>131260763

It's very simple. They don't know how.

>>131277787
Why are you pretending social order and societal control aren't necessary and good things?

>>131260763
so you think that gender and african studies has something to do with science ?

>>131260763
Because it's their religion

>>131260763
fuck this shit, see >>131268280

>>131264553

>I get to exempt technology from science because the branches of science that are irrelevant to technology are shit

Solid argument.

>>131260763

They're being indoctrinated by the public education system. This is coming from an atheist, but I also understand the limits of the scientific method and empiricism more generally.

>>131260763
they think every new publication is """"settled""" science"

>>131270455
Bruh, can you even center of mass? The earth is astronomically smaller than the sun, so the center of mass is well within the sun's radius.

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>>131278883
"Exempting technology from science" are your words not mine. There's "science," which is actual science, and then there's "Science" with a capital S which is what retards like you put faith into.

I honestly view science the way it's actually intended to, with scrutiny and skepticism.

"Oh look, we found the earliest human fossils in Africa. We all come from Africa, guys!"

"Oh look, we found a new set of human fossils in Europe even older than the ones we found in Africa! We all come from Europe you guys!"

If you are not a retard, just think about these retarded claims by "scientists." We came from Africa, now we come from Europe... NO! The only thing we can actually conclude is we still know fuck all about where we actually came from! You can't make a conclusion based on this shit evidence we've got so far. It is, so far, ASTRONOMICALLY INCONCLUSIVE because there's probably still fossils out there we haven't discovered yet.

Everything Science (that's with a big "S") claims is pure conjecture. The Earth being 4 billion years old, the universe being 14 billion years old. For all we really know the whole universe is really 400 million years old. We don't know. We over-reach our conclusions and don't apply enough, "Yeah, we really don't know for sure... like at all."

Technology doesn't prove all the retardation spewed by Science. Hard work and labor are what advance technology. Blacksmiths working with metal figured out how to smelt steel. Modern day mechanical engineers and researchers are tinkerers. The shit these guys do is different from what fags like Hawking does, scribbling some inane math somewhere and claiming he disproved God.

>>131279523
>The earth is astronomically smaller than the sun, so the center of mass is well within the sun's radius.
Yeah, read what I fucking said again. Believe me, it's there.

>>131260763

I don't think most people on /pol/ know much about either...

>>131263302
And most Christians don't actually follow the bible either but just some cherry picked snippets they like.

Same for the "atheist" lefties, they pick those pop-science aspects they like and ignore the rest.

>>131280710
you sound like a retard