Is space colonization possible?

>>131245589
Yes, but we have to clean up our own damn planet first

yes but we need to unite the world under one government

Yes but no blacks

>>131245589
only whites and asians can come
it will fail otherwise

>>131245589
Yes and it is necessary because this rock is doomed.

No, it's too costly, we have to feed & house all of our niggers.

>>131245589
Kind-of yes.

We can probably build something like a bigger ISS or a moon or mars base at even more tremendous expense, and it'll be fairly or fully permanent at some point.

Reaching further out into the solar system seems unlikely at this point, never mind distant stars.

I personally believe these will not even happen with biological humans any time soon.

We'll probably send have to send artificial intelligences. Human thinking models in computers. Or some such.

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Yes. Sieg Zeon

its fucking not, literal pipedream.
Humanity will be stuck on Earth until our sun boils us to death.

>>131245589
Yes, but what you should be asking is will it ever be done?

>>131245589
Do you even know what the pyramids were built for?

>>131245784
...of only/mostly white people with an IQ average above 100

ya but no girls

>>131245589
Not unless you can find a planet that's exactly like earth. Or else the colonials will have major health problems.

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>>131246041
>We'll probably send have to send artificial intelligences. Human thinking models in computers. Or some such.
>not sending "brain in a jar" cyborgs instead
heresy

>>131245589
For you? No.

For real countries? Yes.

>>131245589
technology is improving fast
computer scientists are starting to predict artificial intelligence by 2030s
and androids by 2050s

we'll go interstellar by 2200s or before.

(unless we kill ourselves off)

>>131245672
Unless you talking about niggers and sandniggers the planet is fine

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>greatfilter.jpg
Colonization is impossible. What does this have to do with politics?

>>131245813
Thass racist mane shiiet

>>131246183
Why not higher? Just only allow people with genius-tier intelligence.

>>131245589
Yea but, as of right now there are better places to live in the middle of an Arizona desert than anywhere on Mars and I just dont understand why we need to colonize fucking Mars

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>>131246289
pic related

>>131246274
It's the most realistic chance to make the trip across these huge distances.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Earth%27s_Location_in_the_Universe.jpg

Only with computers we might be able send low-weight but redundant systems that will work perfectly upon arrival. Human life can't make it at this point, and we would be troubled with massive weight/size/time problems in sending a spaceship colony even if we integrated crazy amount of error recovery codes into our biology (which we don't entirely know how to do at this point).

Not without insane growth in tech and our understanding of space. Currently there is no dependable way to even breed in space. In addition we would need gravity so that the fetus could grow to survive conditions outside of low grav and we would need sophisticated ways of releasing heat from ships and stopping radiation from penetrating ships also need ways to stop micro meteors/ space junk from popping the living areas etc and a cheaper method to transport materials into space so right now unfortunately it is a fairy tale with no possibility as even if we decided it wont cost money to send things into space the things in space would just die anyway couldn't even breed rats to eat in space that's how dire the situation is currently. Lots of documentaries about the subject probably do better to find those and have someone that knows the problems tell you the information.

It would have been possible if Hitler had won.

>>131245589
No, not until we get to the bottom of the Russian hacking and the investigation of the Trump campaign colluding with the Kremlin.

>>131245589
only after transhumanism is achieved

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>>131246661
>get to the bottom
In space, there is no up and down, no top, nor bottom.

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>>131246571
you lack imagination and initiative. The future belongs to those that seize it.

>>131246055
SIEG ZEON
>Operation British one of the colonies
>drop it in the middle of sub-Saharan Africa (or India/China)
>Nigger problem or "overpopulation" problem solved.

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>>131246486
gets hit by an asteroid

>>131245589
>possible
yes

>will it ever happen
Only when Jews are exterminated can we begin to get on the course of exploring the stars.

>>131245589
Not with all these goddamn niggers lying about.

>>131245589
technically yes. but not in reality. Space is racist.

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>>131245589
No. STOP trying to colonize space
Stay on earth where you belong
there's fucking NOTHING interesting about space
that's why it's called "space" because it's nothing but empty faggotry
don't you go waste humanity's money looking out there either

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>>131245784
You're wrong, Ivan. Just watch us prove it.
>Captcha: select all road signs
>Intersection of Goddard St. and something French

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>>131246825
>builds another

>>131245589
It's not going to happen. Muslims, niggers and women will ruin it for us.

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>>131245784
>>131246918

No, space colonization would requires technological advancement , and technological advancement requires smart people.

When the niggers out bread the whites and race mix to make even more niggers, you don't have smart people.

the nigglers will require welfare, so all monetary value will be focused on them over technological advancement, because niggers breed like rats and to sterile them is "racist"

you cant genocide them all either because that is "evil", plus it wont even matter in 300 years there will be no more white people, so if in the far far future neo-niggers some how land on another rock, it wont be the humane race colonizing

Another fun thing, a map showing distances in JUST our solar system:
http://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html

And this map ends at Pluto. Not at the far further away heliosphere (a common way to define the dimensions of a solar system):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliosphere

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>>131245589
No

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>>131245589
Hey guys I just needed to tell somebody this.

There are a lot of flies in my room and I've started killing them and laying their bodies out to see (pic related), by smashing them with my calculator.

Will this sight deter flies from entering my room?

Thanks.

>>131245589
Space stations would be sweeter for habitation than planets, but planets would still be fun to explore

>>131246761
But sending even just AI (maybe human AI) is already WAY out there in imaginationland.

> Inb4 bring more imagination
Lel okay why don't we form a "ladder" of new Earth-like planets going anywhere we want using a more controlled form of whatever caused the big bang? This is easy... right?!

>>131247074
What?
No, just get one of those things that you stick in a socket that keeps flies away.

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>>131246909
But space is super exciting, burger! We have to go!

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>>131246825
I think that's a concept for a ship with an Alcubierre Warp Drive.

>>131246909
except if we stay on this rock forever we're going to die.
might as give it an attempt

>>131245589
Space colonization is inevitable after trans-humanism goes into effect and death becomes obsolete.
https://youtu.be/jAhjPd4uNFY

>>131247028
Before you freak out about population growth watch this video https://youtu.be/QsBT5EQt348

>>131245589
No. Even a living on the top of Himalayas, in the middle of antarctica or Sahara is not viable.

There places have ready access to water, air, and soil. They have radiation protection and are relatively easy to reach. Natural world produces humans much more than the entire economy, and we survive because of it.

Space is stupid and boring.

>>131247261
>But sending even just AI (maybe human AI) is already WAY out there in imaginationland.
Its as if you're suggesting we don't already have probes that have left the solar system
Why don't you leave the science to actual scientists, mountain jew

>>131247277
>>131247466
stop worrying about space
just to go to work (including overtime) and make sure to pay your taxes

>>131245589
Only if we stop spending all our resources trying to achieve the delusional idea of equality

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>>131247599
>Space is stupid and boring.
DELET

>>131247678
>and make sure to pay your taxes
NEVER

>>131247371
actually its this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotating_wheel_space_station

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>meanwhile, this is the most advanced ship we have right now
>only 3 people fit in, and barely
>can't even leave orbit
>gets destroyed when it reenters orbit

>>131247599
>Space is stupid and boring.
>t. "refuge"

>>131245589
From an engineering stance, yes. Economically, maybe. It will have to be something like homesteading, where the economic drive is a result of individuals seeking their own place on another world and willing to pay for it. There's no economic case for a government to bother with it.

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>>131247711
PAY YOUR FUCKING TAXES!!!!
NOW!!!!!!!!!!

>>131247893
The economic case is the exploitation of the resources of extraterrestrial resources...
but its a very long term thing, and our economy is hard wired to be short term

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Possible? Yes
Reasonable? No

Humans are fragile weak ass pieces of shit not meant to live in space.
Also its easier and cheaper to send robots.
Zero reason to send humans anymore

>>131247680
Actually, what takes even more is the military industry, which I don't think needs that much money when the biggest enemy right now are sandniggers armed with rusty AK47s.

USA should start giving much more money to SpaceX and NASA.

>>131247826
Fuck you UN jutku.

>>131245784
one world government is the single thing that will PREVENT the conquest of the stars
It will push all resources into boondoggles like global warmism and centralized health care

>>131248017
I forgot I had that on when I was shitposting in the CTR thread

>>131247074
I would hope so, how stupid could the other flies be?

>>131247893
>seeking their own place on another world
Protip: There are no livable worlds except Earth in human reach.

>>131247951
Disgusting webmd

>>131245589
yeah but you won't be alive for it, nor will your kids' kids.

>>131245589
Yes. Zubrin's Mars Direct plan is the way to do it, too.

$55 billion. It's not that much

>>131247074
Mix ammonia and bleach together and liberally spray all the walls and ceiling. Keep the door closed so the flies can't escape. Make sure you stay in the room to monitor the progress.

>>131248066
No, but there's resources.
There's one asteroid called Psyche 16 that every few years comes in near orbit towards Earth that has about $10 quintillion worth of platinum, for example.

>>131248066
>There are no livable worlds except Earth in human reach.
>So we should just give the fuck up and abandon even the notion of terraforming and colonizing them
I bet you think Europe should belong to the refuges too
And that long-term consideration is something for stupid people

>>131247603
>Its as if you're suggesting we don't already have probes that have left the solar system
Lel, Voyager 2 might leave the solar system in 2019/2020 and it is expected to be almost unable to power anything much by 2025.

Just a chill 40k years later and it'll finally get within ~2 light years of one star. And in about 300k years it's going to be a few light years from Sirius.

So really, feels like we're very fucking close.

>>131248126
Alright I'll try that hut where do I buy ammonia?

>>131247948
It's not even economically feasible to extract resources that way. You'd spend more than you would get back in almost any realistic scenario. >>131248066
Depends on what you mean by "livable". You could live on mars just fine, but it would be a difficult environment to maintain. Totally man made and artificial, but it could be done for a significant number of people.

>>131247603
It took them 40 years to reach that, and Voyager probes are the second and third fastest human-made objects ever.

>>131248172
Its still farther then just sitting here on Terra
Besides, with the latest engines we could get a probe to the nearest star system within a human lifetime.
It'd take the whole of said human's lifetime, but still

>>131248236
>It's not even economically feasible to extract resources that way.
And its only that way because we have yet to develop the technology to make it economically viable
Again, its long-term planning here. Having ag stations, asteroid capture and mining stations, etc in orbit are all things we can do now, and that would pay off only a few decades down the road
But the key point here is that it would take decades to pay off. And again, our economy is not set up for something like that.

>>131248232
Any decent store that sells cleaning supplies. Actually, just in case you're not being ironical, don't do it. It's a dangerous mixture.

>>131248021
Good, less resources on militaries

>>131245877
I agree

>>131248436
What do you mean? I thought it would work to hurt the flies since bleach burns and may be don't like the stink of ammonia? I think I'll be ok if I test it out.

>>131248244
https://www.universetoday.com/15403/how-long-would-it-take-to-travel-to-the-nearest-star/
the simplest, more workable answer is to just nuke the fuck out of space

>>131245589
Only possible if Asians are allowed in. White people and niggers will ruin everything in their path. I'm white but that's the truth.

>>131248274
> Its still farther then just sitting here on Terra
Yea, and it'll probably get very far eventually?

But it's a dead rock really soon now.

> with the latest engines we could get a probe to the nearest star system within a human lifetime
Which latest engines? Non-theoretical production models only, please.

>>131245589
no. And at the rate we are going there is no way a brown world will even be able to make enough food.

>>131248395
Sort of a chicken and egg problem there. We don't have the technology to capture a massive body and put it in earth orbit because it isn't economically feasible to develop the technology to do that anyway. regardless, it would take a huge fuck off size rocket to redirect it, which would take a bigger fuck off size rocket to put your fuck off payload into earth orbit to begin with. A that point you have such a powerful goddamn machine that you may as well just build a colony ship and call it a day.

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>>131245784

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>>131248627
It forms a chlorine gas. It's an unpleasant way to dead.

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>>131246777
checked

>>131248848
Why would you want me to make that? What if I did It?

Earth is in space, so yes.

>>131248763
The nuclear pulse engine is not just a theoretical model, experimentation was done with it, even if it was stopped and is currently considered a violation of international law

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>>131248903
Lol

>>131248965
The orion project is literally retarded, would never work, and people should stop talking about it.

>>131248232
Jesus Christ Don't do that you fucking retard.

>>131245589
Friendly reminder solar warden and many other speacil access programs are already set in motion and humanity has vast infrastructure in thw cosmos, dont believe it huh, just (you) wait.

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The earth isn't round, so no.

>>131249259
Fucking based.

>>131247951
>>131248070
faggot


shes hot as fuck. name?

>>131249259
Even better! If the earth is flat and just accelerating upward, then you just need to fly up and over the edge, and the earth will leave you behind at 9.81 m/s^2. Super easy access to space.

>>131245589

Not before Planet X tips Earth on it's side and wipes out 90% of the worlds population and lays waste to everything that has been built. A pole shift is pending and near. The End Times is here.

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>>131249259
>>131249346

>>131249425
Nope, only flay earth disinfo shills say that. Think of earth as a flat plane the "ice barrier" goes on forever possibly.

>>131249425
Hi, can you explain why the curvature calculations aren't used by surveyors or pilots?

>>131249425
Jesus you don't even understand...

>>131249451
Yeah yeah, end times are always nigh for the past few millennia. At this rate the world will end sometime in the next couple billion years, so it won't matter anyway.

>>131248903
>asks the leaf
Seriously, though, that death would be rather slow, but very irritating. You'd have to be retarded to stick around after spreading the chemical like that.

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>>131249529

>>131249547
nah I literally don't give a fuck.
>>131249573
nope
>>131249529
It can't go on FOREVER. Wouldn't the ice melt? or was that the flood of the bible?

>>131245813
Yes but no blacks and no jews.

>>131249669
But your entire ^2(nx9k) = round argument hinges on curvature...

>>131249669
According to the Flat Earth theory, the ice sheet goes on forever and temperature keeps descending until it reaches absolute zero.

>>131249636
hey man it's some really cool ice. Amazing they can patrol such a huge coastline. Based on the flat earth ,map the circumference of the ice wall has to absolutely fucking unbelievably gigantic. It must take a fleet of millions to protect this NWO secret.

>>131249669
Space is most likely not what you think it is. There is some evidence to suggest there is a literal crystalline firmament that encapsulates us. There is no other 'worlds' to go to. Earth is the only thing that exists. and humans can never leave.

>>131245589
Space colonization is racist since it just another form of white flight from nigger and muslum infested planet.

>>131249636
fyi the military runs the research bases on Antarctica.

>>131249754
>^2(nx9k)
what
>>131249777
Even more convenient! An infinite heat sink! Do you know we could generate limitless energy if that is true?

>>131249826
Crystal firmament? Crazy! Are the "planets" like saturn and jupiter painted on by the angels of heaven?

>>131249811
Your digits compel you to answer sensibly.

>Most dangerous sea on earth, too far to fly a non jet, once on the ice.. where refuel?

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>>131245589
It's EASILY possible. Unfortunately, our planet is full of monumental idiots and we devote our energy into outrageously idiotic bullshit that doesn't matter.

The average person these days has no idea, no sense, not even a fundamental concept of just how advanced our technology actually is. Not even a basic fucking concept. Not to mention how advanced it could become if we pumped large amounts of resources and time into further advancement.

Also, once we develop truly sentient AI... well... space colonization will become a much simpler matter than it is today by immense orders of magnitude. AI will change many things. Hopefully, it doesn't end up being some faggotry where the ultra-wealthy elites control it and thus everything and 99% of the world's population will dull labor slaves that don't even know what the elites have access or even that they could have access to.

Anyways, the answer is yes (easily)... but will it actually happen? Who knows.

>>131249669
the whole, 'flat disc flying upwards at 9.8 ms^2' argument is used to make the whole thing look silly. Gravity is most likely just air density mixed with some sort of electro magnetic bond. Tesla was most likely starting to figure this out, and that's why he was dicredited/ possibly killed. The Nazis invented electro-magnetic levitiation in the early 40s or 50s (see Foo Fighters (not the band)) and the US military adapted said technology from the NAzi Scientists that were brought over in Operation PAperclip. The government will most likely use said technology against us and claim its 'muh alien invasion'

>>131245589
what if space nazis foud out about the jews?
will they gas the earth?

>>131248848
Why are you trying to save a Canadian from his own stupidity?

>>131245589
>Is space colonization possible?
Wrong question, it should be like this
"Is space colonization desirable?"

>>131249891
And the military doesn't keep secrets?

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Who is going to pay for it?

>>131247371
>Negative mass

Jewish physics

>>131249906
The sun generates heat you idiot

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>>131250084
NASA has a budget of about 6 billion.
I'm sure the government could give them a bit of the 800 billion they spent on military.

>>131250017
>Also, once we develop truly sentient AI... well... space colonization will become a much simpler matter than it is today by immense orders of magnitude.
No. We FIRST need "immense orders of magnitude" of simplification before it's even within our grasp for anything but some "toy/scientific" near earth space stations or such.

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>>131245589
Don'tchu worry my dude, India will make space affordable for all races and cultures. Space is going to be multicultural :^)

>>131250029
Gravity literally cannot just be density, because the buoyancy force is linked to gravitational acceleration. Put a Styrofoam ball in water without gravity and it doesn't move upwards, it just stays there. Besides, things would float if you put them in a vacuum chamber. Any flat earther could prove that.

>>131249891
go watch the latest anthony bordain he goes to Antarctica.

>>131248120
Who do you suppose is gonna pay for that 55 billion if it even costs that much?

>>131246715
>only after transhumanism is achieved

This is essentially the case.

We COULD do it now but it would require a level of resource allocation and cooperation that simply isn't going to happen.

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>>131245877
>t. soulles dog eating streetshitting yangtze mutant yellow pajeet.

>>131250192
Yeah too bad NASA are complete frauds and space isn't real/accessible...so....

>>131249906
No one says the flat plane is shooting up at terminal velocity you git. Crypto Canadian, prove your point properly or continue to be teased.

>>131250214
Says the country whose people can't even figure out how to use the toilet...

>>131250270
True, SpaceX fares far better, and the ITS is much more promising then the Orion.

>>131250112
yeah but if the ice extends forever and drops to absolute zero, then you can actually run a heat pipe out really far wherever you want and use a heat engine to power a generator. Literally free energy, powered by the thermal gradient.

>>131247371
>Alcubierre Warp Drive.
But you niggers said no Mexicunts.

>>131250214
>Outsourced space program

"We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity.... Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do."
Ben Rich - Former Director of Lockheed

>>131250170
>camera operator

No shit. How the fuck do you think they got the footage?

>>131250292
How do you explain gravity then?

>>131250421
It wouldn't take an act of God, those technologies are probably just way too expensive.

>>131250333
no no no no, there all scams. Space most likely can't be accessed, EVER, BY ANYONE. so giving any 'company' the funds for 'space exploration' is a fruitless effort in propganda for the day 'muh alien invasion' happens. I don't think you're seeing the full picture.

>>131250509
Oh, flat Earth, whatever.

>>131250477
Gravity is NOT real. It's just air density. It MIGHT have something to do with an electro-magnetic bond as well. Tesla was figuring most of this stuff out before his death. Even Einstein was surprised that people liked the Gravity idea so much. Even he thought it was an incomplete theory.

>>131250509
Thank god you get it anon! When Tory Bruno lands in a reptilian suit using Tesla's secret antigravity technology you will be proven right, I know.

>>131250477
I can't, but neither can (((Neil dg Tyson)))

I'll assert that it's all a lie, cos that's what the evidence suggests.

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>>131250422
By filming it in NASA space water tank

>>131245672
Retardthink

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>>131250208
Do you understand how fast technology and knowledge, in general, will advance once truly sentient AI exists?

Just to give a brief something to ponder... ok, think about the total amount of thought you will think over the course of your entire life. The total amount. A decent amount of thought right? No... an AI will think that amount of thought in a brief insignificant short passing moment.

Think about the advancements we've made in the past 100 years compared to the entire rest of human history... that's NOTHING compared to what will happen once AI exists. That amount of advancement will be made in days... and it'll become faster... from days, to hours, to minutes...

It's a hard concept to understand. Of course, we do have to remember that we could easily fuck up with AI and prevent it from being used correctly. Or some faggot elites could horde the tech for themselves (if they haven't already) and etc etc.

But yea... an unrestricted AI with the ability to advance... it'll be mind-bogglingly insane.

>>131250607
So everything floats in a vacuum chamber then right? Man that must be super cool, you should take a video of this happening and blow the whole conspiracy wide open!

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>>131250629

>>131245589
Most likely, as evidenced by the ISS and several other experiments.
But why would we pour resources into a shitty project like that?

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>>131245672
You're right.
The nigger infestation has gotten way out of control.

>>131248848
yes... breathing mustard gas is bad

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>>131250509
Oy vey.

>>131250621
What evidence?
All you do is deny everything you can't see, using the same logic I could use as "USA doesn't exist because i've never been there".

>>131250217
Not true, buoyancy is due to the weight of water that is displaced by the object in the water.

>>131250654
What is sentience?

>>131245589
Yes, not with all the niggers though.

>>131250629
So then there's nobody on the space station? because there is a space station, you can see it with your own eyes. I've seen it with my own eyes. is ti just a projected hologram used by (((NASA))) to keep the lie believable?

>>131250053
I don't have a good answer for that desu.

>>131250723
Yeah, the weight of water. Not the mass of the water. Weight is force which is mass X acceleration, and in this case, downwards acceleration.

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>>131250677
>rather strange
It's not strange at all, the ISS has a linear orbit, it's just the Earth is tilted 27º so any orbit that isn't throughout the equator will look like that in a flat map.
Pic related the ISS' orbit.

>>131245589
So long as humanity continues to exist space colonisation is inevitable

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>>131250718
That there's no evidence backing up the currently accepted gravity model. Some Mason came up with it and then resumed his alchemy attempts to make lead into gold.

People like him are referred to now as "vagrants" but for some reason Newton is (((unquestionable)))

>>131250805
Project Bluebeam most likely, OR electro-magnetic levitation.

>>131250755
To put it briefly, it's basically the ability to perceive, or experience subjectively and reason.

Of course, there's much more complex answers to that question. Not to mention the philosophical things that we could get into etc etc.

Why are you even asking?

>>131250892
What keeps it up there? Especially during solar storms when the Isis is bombarded with photons pushing it back down towards earth?

Gas releases? How many litres of propulsion gas can be kept on board?..

>>131250880
Slightly true, but you're still acting under the ASSUMPTION that said acceleration is due to Gravity

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On the moon, wearing critical equipment for their safety

>>131246139
WE

>>131250880
Electro-Magnetic attraction also takes place with a ^2 equation of pull. Coincidence? I think not.

>>131250993
Cos it's why AI isn't possible, intelligence implies abstract reasoning which requires sentience. We cannot make artificial sentience, AI is just sensible guessing

>>131251078
Okay yeah, but it's still acceleration. So everything is accelerating for sure anyway.

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Muh compression artifacts. Look closely at the microphone.

>>131251057
>What keeps it up there?
The ISS is set in a place where it's always "falling", but it "falls" fast enough and in such an angle that it doesn't reenter orbit.
Though one day it may, wouldn't be the first time a space station falls into orbit and gets destroyed.

>Gas releases? How many litres of propulsion gas can be kept on board?..
You do know there's ressuply flights for that, right?

>>131251174
I assure you, if there were an electric field that powerful anywhere near you it would be very apparent. Probably as you were incinerated by the discharge.

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>>131246909

Alien shill faggot. You have to go back.

>>131251202
Yes, we know things are attracted to the 'Earth' via an accelerative equation, however, whether or not that acceleration is due to Gravity is very much 'up in the air' pun-not-intended.

yes but you have to give me a trillion dollars right now

>>131247074
dunno about flies but the nature's terrorists wasps are known to go into retribution rage when faced with mutilated bodies of their justly slaughtered brethren. Cunts.

>>131251236
I mean, the ISS is going pretty fast, and always switching to a different relay station. it's a miracle it's as good as it is desu.

>>131245589

Will never be done large scale.
What would the reason be? To mine some distant minerals? Robots would do that.

If we find another "earth" it could be considered unethical to settle it and ruin possible future civilizations from developing. What if aliens settled the Earth 100.000 years ago?

>>131251236
I'm sure you can come up with an idea to have 100% perfect quality streaming even though it has to go throughout the entire atmosphere.
And also a way to deliver pics from satellites so that we don't have to stare at black and white ones for months until the full pics are transmitted.

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>>131251175
Totally incorrect. It most definitely is possible to create truly sentient AI... you're just probably thinking about it as if it'll be some advanced software loaded onto a computer with a fucking standard Intel or AMD CPU you monumental fucking jackass.

>AI is just sensible guessing

That was good for a nice chuckle... and it proves you have no clue what you're talking about and have a lack of understanding in regards to AI and technology in general. You're an idiot.

>>131251397
>If we find another "earth" it could be considered unethical
You think people like Elon Musk, who want to make a business out of space-fearing, will give a shit about that, when we don't even care about ethics in our own planet?

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>>131251384
The nasa shills aren't even trying

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>>131251403
That explains the cgi microphone for sure

>>131251108
1/3 gravity is a pain in the ass, especially when you're wearing a suit pressurized like a football. Awkward as all fuck I'm sure. They're lucky that never did any real damage.

>>131251275
You're gonna need a lot, as in fucking massive massive quantities of gas for that assertion to work. Container ships full of it, no goofy little rocky tubes with 1500 litres to drop off to them.

Think about it..

I don't want earth to be flat either, but seriously who can trust the gubberment space programs after seeing the gubberment lying about literally everything for the past.. well.. they've never not lied.

911
Vietnam
Muh turrurists
Isis not attacking Israel

But somehow they wouldn't lie about anything as srs as the nature of our earth?

>>131250654
> and it'll become faster... from days, to hours, to minutes...
No. Even the progress of self-enhancing AI that is pushing science can't currently be assumed to run on exponential gains.

>>131251429
If you have some idea of what YOU'RE talking about. then please explain convolutional-neural-nets to the class. Also throw in an explanation of backwards propagation with regards to the aforementioned topic.

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>>131251506
No worry, the only danger they faced was the roof of the studio collapsing

>>131251429
Example of functional artificial sentience plz?

Not theories, or near break through potentially, maybe we've done it. Actual examples

>>131251495
okay but that can't be underwater. The pressure would crush those boxes. Must be something else anon, you should get on that.

>>131251554
Please explain why an AI with the ability to enhance itself and have the original creativity to create what it wants wouldn't have any sort of exponential gains... go ahead, I'm waiting.

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Damn, I was just thinking about this, it would be impossible. No sun, no rain, no food would grow. Yoi couldn't do anything out there. Leave it to the movies boys.

>>131251452
>>131251495
>>131251236

BS
Stop being such a stupid conspiracy theorist!

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>>131251658

>>131251597
I don't know why they would have even bothered faking it. The technology to actually go there existed and was certainly built. The Saturn V could take them there. The lander could land and get them back. They may as well have just done it for all the effort.

>>131246975
The irony of that picture is that, while a gun will shoot in space, the oxide layers on all the parts have been ionized away. You can shoot one chambered round, but the parts will have been fused together already, if not by the residual heat afterward.

>>131251677
I'm still waiting for YOU to answer my question. Because if you can't, you know nothing about the current state of AI of programming hierarchies.

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indoctrinated Norwegian, color me surprised

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>>131251528
>You're gonna need a lot
Yes, you need a lot, in fact, it's not enough, almost as if you need thrusters, from a ship.
Ships like this.

Also "gubberment" reminds me of what tumblrinas did with gamergate and "goobergate".
That doesn't make your argument sound stronger, it makes you sound like a child.

>>131251739
NICE COUNTER ARGUMENT ;) I really liked the part where you used proof to back up your claims!

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>>131251739
>>131251739

>>131251776
Example of this occurring on earth in an artificial vacuum?

>>131251858
Dude, that's literally an artifact.

>>131251829
Thrusters don't work in a vacuum anon, baka

>>131251829
>Trust me, it's all real! Just like based Neil dgt says it is!

Avoiding arguments is not an argument

>>131251582
What do you even want to know? You want details on convolutional layers, subsampling step, the gradient of loss function pertaining to neural networks? Wtf do you want to know specifically faggot?

>>131251884
What is: google

>>131251884
Cold metal welding is definitely a real thing. Remove the oxide layer and two pieces of metal won't know their two different pieces if they touch. The electrons are just shared like normal and they bond instantly.

>>131247951
>what is communication delay?

If we break the light barrier, we could technically go either way.

It would then be faster to fly an SDD to and from mars for rover communication and feedback, than waiting for radio signals.

>>131251968
I want to know what I asked. Quit googling shit trying to sound smart, dodging the question.

Rhetorical question.

Why is it so expensive to build a steel tube containing kerosene and pure oxygen?

It's a tube. With common ingredients, yet we can never seem to master building them cos they're do expensive.

>>131252008
I will look into this

>>131251806
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBx1TRpDLUk

>>131252026
Interestingly enough, if you were to go super fast, like close to the speed of light, you could make the trip between galaxies in as short a time as you want to. For you, on the ship. Time dialation and length contraction would make it so very little time passes for you, but for people left behind in a non acceleration reference frame, like earth, you wouldn't arrive at your destination any sooner than it would have taken light to get there.

>>131251928
Do you know how spaceship thrusters work?
They basically create a controlled explosion in one direction, you just point that controlled explosion in the opposite direction you want to go.
By your logic, a supernova wouldn't do anything to you.

>>131251947
But you just ignored the fact that I told you that Soyuz ships are used to mantain altitude.

>>131245589
Yes very much but not until the public knows the truth about gravity.
I suppose they're afraid of terrorists getting their hands on technology they could use to enslave everyone.
There's more problems then just is it possible to built an orbital city...

>>131252060
You're absolutely right! The tanks are cheap, and the fuel is relatively cheap. it's the engines that are expensive and very difficult to design and build.

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>>131252181
have a look at this backflip in (((space)))

It's even better with sound
https://youtu.be/RYJhYbuk3Ms?t=3m9s

3:09

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>>131245589

>>131252060
Because it's not the fuel and the outside structure what's expensive.
Anyone can fill a steel tube and fill it with kerosene and pure oxygen, but you do you ensure it gets to space?
How do you ensure it doesn't freeze until it doesn't work?
How do you ensure it generates enough energy to reach escape velocity?
That's like saying that cars should be cheap because you can easily make a steel structure with the form of a car and attach a bunch of wheels to the sides.

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>>131246444

No niggers no jews and a new start.

>>131252336
Also an even better thing to point out about this clip is that you can see his face is red after the flip because all of the blood went rushing to his head.

>>131245589
As long as diversity quotas, unstopped immigration, welfare and the continuing lowered standards across the board exist.....humans will never achieve the stars. Back during the space race between the Soviets and the Americans, do you really think they gave a shit about "being inclusive" to minorities? No, they wanted the best to put a Man on the moon. Now days, NASA would have to worry about have an equal amount of women, blacks and hispanics to be fair to minorities. In doing so, the standards of excellence lessens potential.

>>131252053
You want me to explain convolutional neural nets... you do realize, that's a complex topic and would require a long explanation correct? You seriously want me to explain something like that here? In 2000 characters? All I can do is give brief definitions and examples. What, you want to me to do multiple posts right now on this faggot board? I can give hours long lectures about this.

Think about what you're asking me to explain rofl.

For fucks sake it would take multiple posts just to explain translation invariant features you stupid fucking jackass.

Seriously, what is even wrong with you?

Also, with the way tech advances... in 20 years, all the current ideas and methods of attempting to achieve AI may be obsolete (and probably will be imo) and something much grander and more complex may exist.

Also, in general... fuck you for being such a radically enormous faggot.

What else do you want me to explain here? Advanced Nuclear Physics? On /pol/ with 2000 character posts? Holy fuck, kys retard.

>>131252276
They can't carry enough pressurized gas to do the job, like a scuba tank losing psi the deeper you go underwater, the opposite will occur as you lose atmospheric pressure on the ship.

So if you take off at 100 psi, it'll be a lot higher psi by the time you reach the (((space station))) so it'll need to be made of steel (heavy) and lower than optimal pressure at take off, reducing the capacity significantly.

It just doesn't work imo

>>131252611
>They can't carry enough pressurized gas to do the job
How do you think they reach the ISS?
I'm not talking about gas, the Soyuz use their thrusters to help push against the drag of the ISS.

>>131252336
>>131252449

I really hope you guys are kidding. It must be impossible to be this retarded right?

Here is another one for you sheep minds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo7Ytg9ckC0

lmao, you probably believe that too

kek ;)

>>131252611
They don't literally hold the station up like a constant jet of gas. Things in orbit just stay in orbit forever unless they're slowed down. The space station is in really low earth orbit,and so traces of the atmosphere slow it down a little bit over a long time. You just speed it up by a few m/s, which really doesn't take that much fuel. Remember, it's speed parallel to earth, nut straight upward.

>>131252740
I'm glad your entire country isn't retarded.

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>>131252740
Even in the face of undeniable evidence you are still a good goym

Would not be the slightest surprised if you thought this was a real movie of the moon

>>131252740
nuclear weapons most likely don't exist, so, yeah, you're right.

>>131249115
>Just because something is difficult and dangerous means we should give up, just accept our fate and die out
I hate nihilists.

>>131252891
it is. What's wrong with it?

Yes and no.

Space travel would essentially require time travel, because shit is so far away, and moving too fast would turn you into jelly. Meaning, you can't travel through space and set up a colony somewhere else through conventional methods.

On another note, there's an international law (Thanks, USA) permitting any space programs from leaving the upper atmosphere or else get vaporized. The last space team that attempted to leave Earth's atmosphere into the vacuum was destroyed from an unknown source. The International Space Station, for example, isn't beyond said atmosphere. It's just in lower orbit and can be seen by the naked eye.

>>131249547
You mean the meme of why planes to fly in to space when they fly "level"?

Same reason if you spin a ball on a rope around you, it dosent fly of in to the distance.

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>>131245784
YES GOYIM. DO WHAT HE SAYS.

>>131252914
>>131252914
No, I'm saying the orion project in particular is fucking stupid for an amazing number of reasons.

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>>131252891
>>131252740

Do you see the size difference?

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>>131252823

>>131252929
Oh lord....

>>131252795
>fails to respond properly to a specific post

Radically enormous faggot confirmed!

>>131246825
Give everyone guns and space suits and have them brace against the space station and start shooting, the force will push the space station out of the way

2A wins again.

>>131252962
> moving too fast would turn you into jelly
It wouldn't, there's no drag, there's nothing pushing against you.
The actual problem is slowing down.

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>>131252929
>>131252740
Natural cloud formation

>>131252972
If you're flying against the orbit of earth your ground speed should be increasing rapidly. Doesn't happen tho

>>131253073
Again, you burn PARALLEL to the earth. You don't burn upwards, perpendicular to the earth. You need to learn about orbital mechanics because I'm not going to write you a long ass post explaining it just sou you can shitpost anyway.

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>>131252929
>>131252740

>>131253046
ah, now I get it

>>131253119
kkk I asked you two simple questions, both of which you refused to answer. Your excuse being, but I can't explain such a COMPLEX subject in literally the length of a high school essay. kkk. ;)

>>131253216
It does increase, the ISS orbits Earth once every 92 minutes.

>>131246183
>IQ average above 100
So like less than 1% of Yuropoor countries?

>>131253004
Ah.
Well its still a viable option though, and one that should be on the table imo, just not the first one

>>131253310
Funny, because USA is under a lot of countries in average IQ, even under Souther Europe.
https://www.iqtestforfree.net/average-IQ-by-country.html

>>131253073
what the hell happened in January?

>>131253326
It shouldn't be at all, SpaceX's ITS is far better in every single way.

>>131253301
Airplane flying against orbit does not experience epic ground speed increase. Navigation doesn't favour a non straight line to exploit short cuts created by the curve.

>>131245589

not with fucking windmills

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>>131253268

>>131245672
Rather clean out our planet and move to space than clean it up desu

>>131251806

Sadly, I can't deny that some flights are faked today. Rocket launches are very expensive, and staying in orbit for an extended amount of time is almost a guarantee of cancer or at least some kind of radiation-related problem (e.g. most Apollo astronauts developed cataracts after exposure to gamma radiation - they described "bright flashes" that were the result of gamma photons hitting their retinas).

The funny thing is: We didn't have the technology at the time to convincingly fake the Apollo missions.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, though as I have done some contract work with the Air Force and NASA, I find myself more convinced that there is something we're trying to avoid up there (and its not radiation).

China is, without a doubt, falsifying most of their taped missions, though.

>>131253451
>Airplane flying against orbit does not experience epic ground speed increase
Because they don't fly at 400km in height and gravity holds them much tighter than the ISS?

>>131253269
These pictures are irrelevant as evidence unless you can site them being used as "official" space pictures somewhere.

That clip of the moon traversing the earth is pretty iron clad but you need a source.

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>>131253421
>implying the corporation won't collapse the moment funding dries up thanks to an administration change

>>131253409
Jewish trickery, desu I don't pay attention to space stuff because it's fucking retarded.

Oxygen not expensive, Kerosene bot expensive, tubes are cheap too yet space flights are expensive!? How?

>>131253280
also, don't call people names, you should be far better than name-calling ;)

>>131253456
what the shit is that caption supposed to mean?

>>131245589
It is possible when you bring the world together as one caliphate ishnallah

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>>131253456
This is the path the Saturn V followed when it went to the moon.
Perpendicular flight is just absolutely retarded.

>>131248236
>You could live on mars just fine,
No. You can't. You'd have to live deep in the caverns, because there is radiation that slowly kills anything near surface. It would be a million times easier to live inside the cavern that exist naturally deep in the earth.

>>131253574
>tubes are cheap too yet space flights are expensive!? How?
The cost of getting things into orbit, which is still retarded as there are much cheaper means available to do so, but hardly anyone ever utilizes them

>>131253516
If the land mass underneath is moving in an opposite direction, there'd be at least a slightly tangible effect. But there is not.

>>131253518
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/from-a-million-miles-away-nasa-camera-shows-moon-crossing-face-of-earth

https://visibleearth.nasa.gov/view.php?id=57723
Click on globe_west_540.jpg

>>131253456
See, now you're getting it! You get to orbit with horizontal velocity, not vertical velocity. You only go upwards at first to get out of the atmosphere.

>>131253574
Are you going to ignore that we already told you a couple of replies ago that what's expensive is the engine?
As I said, the logic you are using is that a car should cost a $500 maximum because with that you can buy enough gas, enough steel to make the body of a car and attach some wheels to the sides.

>>131253610
That's using gravity to get to a longer distance though, rather then just getting things up into orbit

>>131253713
>>131253687
Also this

>>131253669
You ignored my post, i'll post it again, planes don't fly high enough for that to be anything relevant to take into account.

>>131253654
What could be simpler than a tube full of fuel pointed up? Our UAV auto pilots and solid state gyros can easily fly them on target.

Jet fuel (kerosene) is about $1 per litre, liquid o2 probably the same. Steel is dirt cheap, where's the expensive part of this?

>>131253683
ok that's undeniable proof nasa are faking pictures then. Good job.

Where are you getting this?

>>131253789
Isis is touching the atmosphere somewhat too, where does the effect start and stop?

>>131253846
Someone posted source in a space thread yesterday

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>>131253819
Something more cost efficent, some of them are being looked into actually, like the space plane thing
pic related

>>131253868
You can start seeing the effect at about 40km in height.
At that height, for example, gravity is 1.2% less strong than on the surface, and then the gravitational influence starts exponentially decreasing.
Commercial planes fly at about 10 to 12 km in height, while the ISS is at 400-410km.

>>131253846
Nah, before you get too worked up you need to realize how far away the DISCOVR satelite is. it's really fucking far away, about a million miles. The moon is only 238900 miles away, so from that far out they look similar sizes.

>>131253981
That's way more complicated than a big v2, and definitely more expensive. They're lying to us

>>131253819
Precisely we use rockets because they are the cheapest.
And you keep ignoring, once again, that what's expensive isn't the fuel, it's the engine, like in pretty much all vehicles.
Without the engine, you just have a tube of steel full of cheap fuel.

>>131254138
It is expensive, that's why we don't use it yet, and why Elon Musk decided to go for reusable rockets.

>>131254086
No, it's incompatible with apollo surface pictures where the earth is very small. They both can't be true.

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The US and Russia both had plans for orbital battle stations in the cold war. The US one in particular was going to be armed with nuclear bomb-pumped lasers and a large armory of tungsten rods to be used as kinetic projectiles for bombarding the ground. The reason this never happened is because of the Outer Space treaty.

If humanity ever wants to get off this rock, someone needs to start putting armed military satellites in high orbit to set off an arms race. Without an arms race we're not going anywhere.

>>131254077
>Flies rc helicopter inside of a van that goes from stationary to 40kmh, does helicopter hit the back of the van or stay stationary?

>>131254162
>>131254202
https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/Features/towed_glider_concept.html
https://www.nasa.gov/content/rockets-new-ride-the-towed-glider
Could probably be even more cheaply done by using blimps

>>131254086
>>131253200

DSCOVR Satellite is the "source" of the photo of earth where the word SEX is photoshopped into the clouds.

Source: https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/187_1003705_americas_dxm.png

It's down left of america, upside down

>>131254239
You never hear about zoom before? It's just zoomed in. This isn't a polaroid in 1969.

>>131254255
That was the plot of Fallout Van Buren

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>>131254202
Wonder why specex fakes their launches

>>131254337
Yeah I'm not seeing it.

>>131253216
No, it should not. You are in the atmosphere, you are effectively being dragged around with the spin of the earth.

The atmosphere spins with the earth.

>>131246302
But there are still niggers and sandniggers. Ergo, the planet is NOT fine.

>>131254443
What is it fake about it?

>>131254162
How can it be expensive? It's literally o2 mixing with kero, that's all. Maybe a moveable bell but even then, this is 50s technology. It's not hard to make vs a car.

3rd world labour if cost cuts are required

>>131254445
No doubt the wool is pulled down far in front of your eyes.

See this post
>>131253200

>>131254443
me too, why do they pay so many people to do (((engineering))) all day at enormous expense? Really activates my almonds.