If we were to rebrand national socialism as national capitalism without changing a thing, do you think it could possibly take root in the cuckservative community?
The biggest complaint I have ever heard about national socialism from conservatives is "Hurr durr karl marx was full of shit". So if we rebrand NS as NC, maybe some of the more moderate conservatives will come to our side. Or at least it will be more appealing to normies.
Share your thoughts.
>>131239597
nat soc or bust
fuck capitalism
Show your real flag larpers
>>131239773
>show flags
Redditscum can't do that, without some method of feeling special the redditjew would die
>>131239711
You're using a fascist flag.
Also, did you not see the part where I said we shouldn't change anything?
Nationals socialism combines elements of socialism (regulation and protection of the citizenry) and capitalism (free market and private property), so changing the name would only result in the focus being on actual policies instead of HURR DURR SOCIALISM NO WORK.
I've begun calling myself a Federalist.
It doesn't have the same connotations as fascist, but means practically the same thing in a historical sense.
>strong, large central government
>government-sponsored finance
>national identity and destruction of factionalism
it fits.
>>131239597
I present to you....
drumrolll.....
the cashtika
>>131240162
no.
>>131239957
I like the part where you got peer pressured into removing your flag
>>131239991
>Federalism
Could be a good idea. It even has some connection to US history.
>>131240207
yes.
>>131240162
Ehh it'd be better without the 2 straight lines
>>131240214
Like the Fuher, I give the people what they want.
>>131240277
checked
and the USA is a christian nation. it totally fits.
>>131240162
Something about it doesn't sit well with me. It looks like the swastika's retarded cousin from Canada.
Use the word 'patriotic' instead of 'national'
>>131240472
play with it a bit and find what you like, but the spiral is still there, the spiral is in all things and is the aryan race's most historical symbol.
>>131240705
Patriotic socialism?
>>131240705
too easily subverted. Thats already the boomers entire ideal in two words. "patriotic capitalism". you can come from anywhere to do our slave labor just so long as you pinky swear to wave a flag every fourth of July.
>>131240924
doesnt work, needs to be a spiral.
>>131240162
>>131240924
That's actually pretty good. But it looks too much like a waffen SS battleflag. We're trying to distance ourselves from the lies surrounding national socialism while retaining the same exact values.
>without changing anything
>supporting welfare in the current year
>>131241134
Nice guy national socialism
>>131241318
we should also call ourselves the "buttfuckers" party while we're at it. Has the exact same baggage.
>>131239597
Just nationalism, so people from any economic aisle can take part.
>>131240162
I honestly can't tell who is a paid shill, who is a fed agent, who is an AI, and who is a regular ol' shitposter anymore.
next do it with the r3ddit logo.
>>131241318
>Change the name
>Keep all of the values completely unchanged
>This somehow results in fake national socialism
???
>>131241310
And retards like this are exactly what I'm talking about.
>>131239597
Capitalism is just the other side of the Jewish scheme. An economic policy should be purely practical on a case by case basis, with the well-being of the nation the only concern. Labeling a more free market as 'capitalism' is shit branding at best, falling for a profit/GDP worshipping scheme at worst. Just call it Republicanism, take back the ancient foundations of America.
>>131240422
>pdb 1svm
>SV40 large tumor antigen
>oncoprotein
>causes cancer
oy vey
>>131241461
Seems a tad bit too broad. People could make assumptions about us being marxist socialist, which is what we are trying to avoid. Also, we don't want to welcome actual marxists/nazbol faggots.
>>131241652
>Republicanism
See >>131241441
>>131241310
there is more welfare right now in America than Nat Soc. a lot more because literally every able bodied person was forced to have a job.
>>131241686
as above so below.
working on finding that swastika protein.
>>131241886
Yes, and?
America is a bloated, indebted mess approaching a nonwhite majority. Set your standards a little higher.
>>131241522
heres a hint. the only ones that say things like nigger and kike are the ones that are paid.
>>131239711
OP is right, openly using Nazi imagery is a dead end for rallying support. And I say that while fully believing that Hitler did nothing wrong.
>>131240162
looks retarded no matter what
>>131239597
National socialism =/= marxist socialism
>>131239597
>capitalism
NO
FUCK OFF /leftypol/
>>131239957
>Fascism
>capitalism
FUCK
OFF
/leftypol/
>>131242191
This is what I'm trying to say. But normies are too stupid to understand, so I'm suggesting that we shed the socialism from the name.
This thread proves how, in the end, Stormfags always come around to admitting they are just Marxists colored brown instead of red
>>131242239
>Capitalism
>/leftypol/
>>131242189
mine looks pretty cool.
retardin in, retarded out.
go find a better version of the symbol to use.
>>131241686
>>131241971
nevermind, found it. pic related is a potassium channel. every cell of the body.
>>131242349
They're not Marxist, they're just too attached to Hitler's Germany.
Hitler was a great man, but he wasn't perfect and we don't have to cling to 100% of his policies.
Nationalism itself has become a dirty word.
If you're going to be enough of a cuck to try rebrand nazism you might want to go to the root of the issue.
>>131242483
His policies were fine, a great place to start from if not perfect, but we'll never get there trying to clear his name and revive a movement that has been demonized for nearly a century now. We cannot garner any support with our connection to Nazi Germany. We need to erase our tracks, only then will we stand a chance to gain any real influence.
>>131242721
Cultural Capitalism?
as someone who has shilled for NatCap the last few days, I say go for it, it is different in a few ways from NatSoc though
>pic related
>>131242047
I know. You just said it supported welfare. I just told you dont know what you're talking about. Stop shifting the goal post
>>131242916
mine is better :)
>>131240162
>>131243447
his is better
>>131242916
>>131243469
>>>131242916
>mine is better :)
>>>131240162
stop being so edgy and accept the smooth spiral cashtika ya nerd.
>>131242404
It's obvious where you're from commukike
>hurr I'm a natsoc and natsoc is capitalism!!!! XDDD
Yeah no, fuck off.
As much as you try this shit we've infiltrated your shitty forum ten times over.
>>131242916
It's different COMPLETELY
FUCK OFF /leftypol/
>>131243681
can you smooth the edges/tips of ths S? maybe make it more like a full circle
>>131243792
wouldnt be utilizing the same $ symbol if we did that. Entire symbolism blown right the fudge out. :(
>>131243730
You're either a shill or in desperate need of a history lesson.
>>131244160
None of you /leftypol/ kids know how to read.
Individualism =/= capitalism
Learn your shit you lemming.
>>131242406
The proteins don't actually look like that at all. That only represents the backbone of the protein and in an abstract form. The majority of the mass of the protein, all the sidechains, are omitted from those images.
>>131244160
>>131244160
Also capitalism and communism are the exact same thing.
It's people trying to profit to the point they don't have to work.
Exact. Same. Shit.
Wake up commie. Wake up.
>>131244354
So what is it you advocate?
>>131239597
>>131239991
>>131240705
>>131242916
You are fucking faggots and total retards. Stop posting and eat shit. This is reddit-tier garbage
>>131244482
National Socialism on a fascistic framework.
The fascist system involves the organic state where the system revolves to replace broken parts so-to-speak.
If authority begins devolving it is replaced with liberty but liberty will be replaced with authority or another way once it devolves to mob rule or oligarchy.
The starting position the third empire had was fairly authoritative national socialism.
>>131244558
>National socialism is reddit tier garbage.
kys
>>131239597
socialism in any form is slavery, nice try soros
>>131244654
Sounds like constant revolt and social upheaval.
>>131244724
You do realize that Soros is only capable of doing what he does because of subverted capitalism, right?
>>131241686
The eternal nose strikes again
>>131244687
You're the /leftypol/ newfag trying to false flag by calling yourself a natsoc and advocating for capitalism
Your character broke down. Your shilling is done.
>>131244773
That is the point, but it is contained.
>>131244354
This. I have yet to see what benefit the international owner class provides to anything. No, dumbfuck ancaps, I am not talking about the investors, but the men who employ the investors. People exist who just collect checks and do nothing. They don't provide a service, they are just a net drain upon society. And guess which ethnicity most of them are? Yet ancaps will lay down their lives for them like true cuckbois
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9mWAxHpeew
>>131244856
You complete fucking nigger, you didn't even read my original post. I didn't advocate for capitalism, I advocated to re-working the name of national socialism in order to make it more appealing to non-natsocs.
If half of us are as retarded as you are, we are completely fucked.
How about this?
>Symbol of perseverance
>Symbol is a spiral which coincides with NatSoc
>White for purity
>Black for authority
>Red for power
>14 for the 14 words
>>131245198
14 stripes I mean
>>131245097
>reworking it to make it appealing
No!
We must never give ground, especially not in major ways like that.
The better idea is to dispel notions people have about the system. Giving in will lead to death.
>>131245097
You sound like a 13 year old
Like a normie would give a FUCK what it's called. It will be labeled Nazi either way. You either be a man and take it or pretend its not what it actually is. Why change the name? The same people will be attracted to it, no matter what name it is
>>131239957
>Nationals socialism combines elements of socialism (regulation and protection of the citizenry)
>and capitalism (free market and private property)
>regulation and protection
>free market
You don't know what these words mean, you retard.
>>131245198
looks fucking gay
red and black looks really bad there and the swirl looks fucking stupid
try again
>>131239597
>rebrand
That word doesn't mean what you think it means.
>>131245417
What would you suggest?
>>131245244
You're a goddamned shill. Language is completely subjective, changing the name does nothing. You would prefer we stay the marginalized and demonized minority in politics? Is this some kind of edgy fashion for you like those NSBM fucktards? This is fucking serious. It's time to quit larping and start making an actual difference in the political climate. But we will never do that when we are carrying all the baggage that the name of our movement carries.
Unironically kill yourself for the good of the White Race.
>>131245461
>*Re-name
Happy?
>>131245198
Personally, I kinda like it.
>>131245566
>white nationalist
Oh that explains it.
Kill yourself instead. THAT might benefit the white race.
>>131245708
To be frank, he's right. You're an utter retard and you didn't read any of his posts
>>131245708
>Not a white nationalist
Why are you even here?
>>131239597
Patcap
Patriotic capitalism
>>131244894
>They don't provide a service
Except for creating the business in the first place, you lazy socialist welfare bum
>>131245866
Confirms this is a /leftypol/ thread.
>>131245956
Lol you aren't even a cuck nat
Fuck off faggot.
>ITT: Faggot fucking LARPers who want to make being a Nazi "more normie friendly"
That has never worked
You fucks are retarded
End this reddit-tier autism fucking now. It is sad and childish. National Socialism is what it is, and changing the fucking name of it won't make normies join it more. People that would actually commit to the ideology of truth would commit to it ANYWAY, so normie shilling is retarded as fuck
Eat shit and fuck off
>>131245244
We must dispel the notion that national socialists don't know shit about economics, they know exactly how kikes fuck up economics.
/rubiobot
>>131246137
>he thinks /leftypol/ would want to rebrand national socialism in order to increase its political efficacy and acceptability
nigger you're a whole new level of moron. wew lad
>>131246189
please read
>>131245566
Why are you delusional faggots so obsessed with emulating Hitler?
He failed militarily and economically.
Andrew Jackson would mollywhop the shit out of Adolf
>>131246316
>he thinks coming to /pol/ and shilling capitalism to socialists so the socialists call themselves capitalists will work and cries when people make fun of him/call him out
Hey wait, is this market socialism or fucking gubbermint socialism everybody wants when they say natsoc?
Hitler was tying to protect his people from kikes obviously, but if they run the show we are fucked just like right now...
>>131246285
>>131246364
Adolf Hitler's Germany would have come crashing down with their own 1929 crisis and super inflation, whether he had gone to war or not, and whether he would have won the war or not. Their entire economy was running on fake credit, inflation, and the spoils system. It was a ticking time bomb that would have imploded in a few years anyways, and the German currency by 1948 would have been worse than Zimbabwe's right now
>>131246355
Okay
>>131245566
>being this autistic
>carrying baggage
You do realize, retard, that they call even CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE KEKED AS FUCK Nazis, right? Or are you that stupid? By pretending to not be what you are, you don't gain more supporters. You don't gain more influence. You will be called Nazis either way and be fucking laughed at.
By actually saying "Yes I am a Nazi, and all degenerates should be gassed!" it literally takes so much power away from cucks.
Also, REAL men are more prone to follower those who actually stand up for their beliefs instead of pussyfooting around it worrying about 'baggage'.
You are a total fucking faggot and a coward
>>131246364
>>131246552
Gentleman I have the opinion that the (((((freemason)))))) show is all the WW1 and WW2 were...
"All wars are bankers wars" activated my almonds.
>>131246189
Do you think half of the people who call themselves communists know what communism actually is? If you do, you're a nigger.
We NEED the normies for their sheer numbers alone. This isn't about honor or being a 'true natsoc', this is about getting results. This is about making actual change, not staying confined to 4chan so we can continue to laugh at the world's stupidity as it slowly kills both itself and us.
>>131246635
>Something something real men, something something trve kvlt something something honor
Shove that shat back up your ass. If getting results means severing ties with the past, so be it.
>>131239597
>rebrand
no, you will just get called a nazi anyways what is the point. Make them embrace it and conform - you can't conform to them or you will lose.
>>131241461
To the far left Nationalism = NAAAAZI (Marxist screeching) But then again anyone to the left of Stalin is a Nazi these days to them
>>131246725
We don't fucking need normies!
It only takes a small percentage of people to actually stand up, be active, be vocal, and have ACTUAL CONVICTIONs to get powe, support, and influence that is REAL. Getting Normie support means nothing, as they DO nothing and are completely useless to our cause.
Simply look at the conservatards. Most of the GOP, probably a huge majority, are against gay marriage. They are highly against illegal immigration. They have typical normie conservative convictions. Yet, at their country collapses around them and the conservative paradise they once had goes into the shitter, they fucking do NOTHING. We don't NEED nor WANT normies.
I highly doubt most communists know what communism is, but that is why they fail so fucking hard now. That is why they are degenerates to be laughed at. And faggots like you should be equally laughed at.
>>131246943
My point is it WON'T get you results. Not only will it make you look fake as fuck, but EVERYONE will recognize that and laugh at you like the faggots you are. Faggot.
>>131239597
Yeah friend I'm sorry but we have the single most powerful meme in the swastika. We can't "rebrand" that. It's the most evocative trigger in the world period, and it's 100% ours.
>>131239711
>nat soc or bust
>fuck capitalism
Make this into a commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJA-DseUtWY
>>131239597
>>131247217
>>131247101
So you're saying we should continue doing exactly what we are doing and have been doing for the past 50 years with little to no progress or success whatsoever.
I don't know if you realize this, but we live in a democratic republic. Numbers make a hell of a lot of difference in our political system.
>>131239597
How about just nationalism. Its worked pretty well.
>>131247152
>You're gonna fail and everyone is going to laugh so it's best not to try.
This is the very definition of cowardice.
>>131247481
No, I'm saying don't compromise. That has been problem #1. Accepting too MANY people has been the biggest problem.
>faggots
>fat slobs
>degenerates
They need to be completley purged.
If you want a BLUEPRINT for a modern and successful NS movement, look at National Action in the UK or the NRM in Nordic countries. The UK government even had to ban NA because it was so fucking successful.
Also,
>thinking there is a democratic solution
lmao dumbass
>>131239711
*Autistic screeching*
>>131247633
Like it hasn't been tried fucking moron. You obviously haven't done much research into the history of the movement. Actually do some.
Compromising and still failing is the most pathetic thing one can do. You need to grow the fuck up. You obviously aren't even a NS as you seem to have NO conception of the ideology, so why the fuck are you even trying to change it?
>>131247799
>No democratic solution
The alternative is to overthrow the government. And we still need significantly larger numbers to do that.
And again, I never advocated for changing anything, I advocated for making it more appealing. We have to change the minds of our people. We need to fix what is broken. We need to use our message to change our the people of our nation, but we can't do that when they've been programmed not to listen when they hear the name 'national socialism' from the time they were kids. Ideas die when they aren't spread and we as a race can't afford to let this idea die out.
>>131246635
Stfu puusy coward you aren't a real man
>>131244353
>its just a smaller simplified version
>so its not actually the same shape!