Can you guys be honest for once?

>>131222397
>Can you guys be honest for once?
And don't know, can you? no.

>>131222397
You're boring

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>>131222397
you morons do realize that anyone can pretend to be anyone on the internet? This applies to the entire hacking thing. its called spoofing.

>>131222397
Now we are at where the FBI gets into hot water.

Every Now and then a Confidential Informant will get into Legal trouble. Comey Instructed (Shilled for the CF) his agents to utilize the Clinton foundation as a fast track method to get them off the hook, instead of using the proper legal channels

>>131222397
So now we're being honest that there was no collusion? That collusion has as much evidence as the existence of flying pink elephants?

Okay, then. GG

The CIA has openly decided hundreds of elections for the last 50 years now. Why aren't folks up in arms about that?

>>131222397
>Russia tried to hack the election

You don't even know what that means.

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Redditors and other leftys were talking about war with Russia for hacking the election. Do you support this idea? That we should hurt Russia in some way?

>>131222397
Please go away. Hillary would have meant open warfare with the Russians in a matter of months.

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>>131222397

Being 16, I know you'll have little to zero experience with international politics, protip, the superpowers have been fucking with each other's elections for years.

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>>131223085
for example OP is pretending to be a patriot when he's really a seditious traitor.

>>131222397
>Can we at least agree on this fucking fact
No. After Hillary lost and couldn't admit it, she needed a boogey man to use as an excuse. The previous administration knew about Russia's ATTEMPTED meddling and dealt with it accordingly. Jeh Johnson, former DHS sec testified ZERO votes were changed by hacking, before congress. There is nothing to this story of meddling. You sound like a broken record. You lost the election, get over it. In fact, here is a pre-election article where Pred Obama claims it's impossible to hack the US election
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/election-day-russia-hacking-explained/index.html

And? Who gives a fuck. They have been trying to influence our elections for years. We do the same in other countries. Remember when hillary was caught on tape saying we should dictate the result of a Palestinian election? Who gives a fuck about any of this shit

>>131222397
Where's the proof it was a USA election so show the damn proof and name the faggots names. Anything else is bull shit!!

>>131223300
Witnessed to smithereens.
Nice numbers, mate.

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Hillary, whose cronies have far more contacts with far shadier characters then anyone in the Trump circle, was raking in gobs of dirty cash from every tinpot dictator through the (((Clinton Foundation))), got double-crossed by Russia, and is now astronomically butthurt about it.
The DNC and Pedosta can't protect their most sensitive information from nickel-and-dime phishing attacks, yet want us to believe it's all Donald Trump's fault and only they should be in charge of cybersecurity.
(((they))) now want us to believe that normal diplomatic relations is criminal conduct, and the party that spent the entire cold war as apologists for the Soviet Union now sees the Russians behind every flat tire and broken window.
Can we at least agree on these fucking facts?

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>>131222397
>Can we at least agree on this fucking fact, regardless of whether or not Trump colluded with them or not?

I'll agree when and only when the libshits accept the fact that their political positions were formed by Soviet active measures. Own up to that, and then we'll talk about the 2016 election.

I'm not taking this position to call you deluded or insane necessarily. I just need to know if you're sane and reasonable before we try to reason famm.

>>131223085
We have no idea what the extent is of the evidence they have. Obviously that wouldn't be made public. The WaPo story suggests the CIA has people deep within the Kremlin able to verify some of this information, and of course the NSA is listening on every Russian server they can. The extent of the hacking makes it highly unlikely to have been someone with resources smaller than a nation. And various actions by Russian actors in concert, eg a spike in visa applications from Russians (especially those with tech skills), and Russian attempts to "spectate" elections in places like Texas are more than enough public evidence that Russia was trying to change things. If you think that the evidence on the intelligence community's end is simply "digital fingerprints," you are a fool.

And if you are a stupid conspiracy theorist (who conveniently thinks Trump isn't involved in conspiracies): The fact that the vast majority of the actions the Obama administration were taking to defend against the Russian hacking were kept under wraps until after the election give credence to the fact that they had very strong reasons to be 100% confident in Russian involvement. It's not as if this was a claim that was made suddenly after Trump won. It was being made while they were sure Trump WOULDN'T win.

Yes, our election was HACKED.

Yes, we have an imposter, petulant toddler in the White House.

Yes, HRC is the real POTUS.

No, we will not shut up about it until we get a new election.

>>131224587
>the CIA has people deep within the Kremlin able to verify some of this information
there is zero way to confirm this is true without burning the UC. That's the problem with this type of intel

>>131223830
this level of cognitive dissonance.

they didn't "try" to influence your election, they influenced your election and got their man elected.

keep living in narnia bro.

>>131222397

>Can we at least agree on this fucking fact, regardless of whether or not Trump colluded with them or not?

No we can not agree on this fact until you show me evidence of this fact. Also you need to define what you mean by "hacked". Leaked some information that Hillary is getting millions straight to her pockets from Qatar? What exactly is "hacking"?

TLDR the rest desu imo desu desu

>>131224587

>secret evidence
>from people who overthrow democracies for a living (if they elect the wrong people)
>but you can trust us, guys!

I'm not even a Trumpcuck, but this story smells rotten.

>>131222397
>fact
*yawn*

>>131224587
>It's not as if this was a claim that was made suddenly after Trump won
But it was. Again. Here is Obama saying it's impossible to hack the election in Oct. 1 month prior.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/election-day-russia-hacking-explained/index.html
Post election when Hillary (obama's girl) loses, suddenly the election was hacked. It's so obvious it's absurd you can't see it.

>>131222397
Trump is better for Russia than Hillary would have been, that is common sense. Trump is also better for America than Hillary.
This is not a zero sum game.

>>131224750
>they didn't "try" to influence your election, they influenced your election

Technically, they've been influencing our elections since before WWII. Why is this election any different to you? Why care all of a sudden? You don't like the result this time around?

The US deserves it for all the crap they've done to other countries when it comes to influencing elections.

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>>131224587
Your intelligence community pretends they have evidence to conceal "hacks" made by your own democratic party. Now source everything you said in this thread with proper quotes.

Why does it require foreign hackers to extract the truth from Democrats?
Think about that one for a few years.

>>131223649
>Jeh Johnson, former DHS sec testified ZERO votes were changed by hacking, before congress
He testified there was no evidence of votes being changed. The DHS never fully audited the election systems (and were not even allowed to because the states were being pissy about it) so they can't even be sure.

Also it's very possible that they didn't change votes but changed voter rolls, which we know, according to Time magazine, happened successfully at least once:

http://time.com/4828306/russian-hacking-election-widespread-private-data/

>In one case, investigators found there had been a manipulation of voter data in a county database but the alterations were discovered and rectified, two sources familiar with the matter tell TIME. Investigators have not identified whether the hackers in that case were Russian agents.

Either way, it's an irrelevant argument. Whether or not they were successful doesn't change the fact that they attempted and will attempt again. Let's see how you feel next time when Putin decides that he wants to support the Democratic candidate instead.

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>>131222397

Do I think Russia is spying on us and being sneakily provocative? Hell yes. Do I trust their government or their leader? 100% fuck no. But...
The Russian intelligence services aren't recording and storing every call, text, and e-mail made in the US. That would be our own NSA, which stores all that shit in their yottabyte(!)-capacity facility in Utah.
Putin and the Russian army didn't fund, train, and encourage ISIS, that would be elements in our own intelligence community, some say CIA, but really, who gives a shit exactly who it was (is). It sure as fuck wasn't Spetznaz.
The Russians didn't decide, while US troops were busily engaged in a long, exhausting counterinsurgency, that those very same fighters were the most likely people to engage in domestic terrorism. That would have been Janet Napolitano and Homeland Security.
GRU agents weren't the ones harassing and targeting honest (if a little naive) tea party people. That would have been our very own IRS.
Russian internal security people aren't the ones pulling old ladies and little girls aside at the airport and molesting them - we have our own TSA to thank for that.
Russia Today/Pravda/TASS/etc weren't the ones that told us that Trayvon was an innocent 12 year old, that Mike Brown was a gentle giant, that Bruce Jenner had always been at war with Eastasia, er, been a woman, or that Mitt Romney(!) wanted to kill your grandmother. Our very own MSM was quite capable of that all on their own.
Russia's foreign ministry didn't decide that Libya, Egypt, Syria, Yemen, etc. needed to be destabilized and turned into nightmarish abbatoirs. That was OUR own Department of State.
I put zero faith in the idea that Russia or Putin cleverly rigged our election, but I'll say this: if Putin did do that, even for his own nefarious purposes, and it saved us from a Hillary presidency with all of the above turned up to 11 over the next few years, then rather than hostility from us, the guy deserves a fucking medal.

>>131223300
are you stupid? can you really not draw the conclusion yourself? are you just parroting other trump supporters idiotic ramblings?

if my country influences another country's election it is likely for my country's benefit.

now the inverse is true if it's my country's election that's being manipulated.

do you see the difference? one effects you negatively, and one doesn't.

that burger education. wow. you don't even deserve those numbers.

>>131225329
There is a fact that US creates convenient lies to attack other governments. Your official testifying means nothing here.

>>131225173
I always kek at democracy worshiping burger libshits. Their lack of awareness and moral outrage on the topic is astounding. If their sociology professors didn't tell it to them, they don't want to fucking believe it. And even the inconvenient things to this particular argument like what the US has done in elections in the Middle East, Latin America, Europe and all over the world.. All that shit gets compartmentalized.

To them American democracy is something superior and more sacred (except the electoral college of course).

>>131225329
I don't know of anyone who is protesting better cyber security measures... in fact many people, myself included, wish the DNC had turned over their hacked servers so we could see the vulnerability and prevent future attacks.

But they wouldn't cooperate.

>>131222397
So Trump is flooding the EU market right now with US liquified natural gas to weaken russias monopoly grip on EU natural gas needs, which is one of the most important income factors for Russia.

That's exactly what a Putin in tight control of Trump would make his puppet do. Crush the own homeland economy.

>>131225365

Putin is based. You Americans are brainwashed into hating him because you always need someone to hate, to be at war with. Educate yourselves and learn about history of Russia since Yeltsin left and you will see just how based Putin is. You need to respect the way other countries work.

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>>131225496

and your opinion means two things to Americans:

Jack and Shit

Fuck off, leaf

>>131225663
Don't try to reason with conspiracy theorists

>>131225763

I don't have anything against Putin. I think he's a weasel, but at least he fight for his own people, unlike the last 4 US presidents before Trump

>>131225329
>The DHS never fully audited the election systems (and were not even allowed to because the states were being pissy about it) so they can't even be sure.

Top kek. You fucking cuckolds have been blocking any and all voter reform for the past 50 years under the guise of voter suppression. Because in an honest election, an informed citizenry is your worst nightmare.

You have no room to complain about this.

>>131225121
>Technically, they've been influencing our elections since before WWII

i don't know what you mean by this. do you mean the USA took such an anti-soviet response that if you were even thought of being a communist, you basically had your career reduced to shambles over night?

i guess that's a form of influence.

also the internet is the answer to your question. soviet ability to gain intel and spread propaganda was limited before, now they do it np.

>>131222397
>they've reached the bargaining stage

>>131222397
Nice blog faggot.

Post proof that they weren't trying to help Hillary. I'm not reading this shit

>>131225910
But it's racist to expect black people to have IDs! They're not capable of getting them like normal human beings!

>>131225031
That is a CNN editorial not the Obama administration. And the first paragraph already points out that the Obama admin accused Russia of hacking into the DNC and voter reg databases.

If you read the WaPo article from yesterday, you'd see that there was a general belief within the Obama administration that Russia would not be able to change things significantly enough that they could flip the results (which at that point they were sure of was a Hillary win), but they were still very concerned, going back to Summer 16. Obama mostly said nothing about what Russia was doing, realizing that he'd be accused of trying to influence the election himself by doing so.

>>131225826
burgers: afraid of knowledge

nice flag, that would look nice on a shirt for the upcoming pride parade.

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>>131222397
>Russia tried to hack into and influence the election
Are you referring to the phishing that grandpa John Molesta literally fell for?

Pic related is the russian HACK

>>131222397
how much did the HILLDAWG pay you to try and sell us this shit?

>>131225648
The DNC fully cooperated with the FBI. Neither the FBI nor DNC claim otherwise.

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>>131222397
>Russia tried to hack into and influence the election.
proofs?

>(1 )The amount of high-level Trump campaign / admin officials with direct ties to Russia

Really? It's no different from Hillary's campaign. The Podesta group has contracts with Russians just like Manafort had. It's part of their business. Nothing unusual.

(2) the amount of communication between high-level Trump campaign / admin officials and Russian operatives and their attempt to conceal it from American intelligence agencies and congress.

Nothing abnormal. Flynn may have made a mistake or forgotten. I have no idea. Maybe he lied because he thought it made him look bad and there was really nothing there?

(3) The Trump administration actively doing things that benefit Russia. For instance, one of their first actions was an attempt to remove sanctions.

Do you not see how removing sanctions benefits us? There has been large scale political pressures from major member of EU such as Germany (and many other non EU countries) to mend our relationship with Russia.

(4) Trump's own actions, including attempts to obstruct the investigation into Flynn, who is the most likely person at this point to be indicted for his behavior, Trump's lies about his involvement with Russian oligarchs and general refusal to clarify (officially) his business ties, and Trump's continued rejection of Russian involvement in anti-American and general refusal to speak sternly about an entity hostile to America and American interests.

You clearly don't understand what obstruction is. Flynn is not going to be convicted of talking to Russian bro. The only thing he could be convicted of is perjury. As a side not, it seems odd if he is convicted of it and Hillary was despite her blatant lies before congress.

It's odd that so much attention is focused on Russia. They do this every election and so do many other countries. Why isn't there uproar against these other countries? It's a ploy by the DNC to deligitimize Trump, distract from their own failures and illegal activities.

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>>131226245
Still don't believe? Here is the image explaining the russian HACKS from the FBI offocial report

RUSSIAN HACKS

NIGERIAN PRINCE

>>131226196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cruh2p_Wh_4

Straight from the horses mouth

>>131222397
TL;DR
So what if Russia tried to influence a foreign election. The United States has been doing that shit for the past 70 years.

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>>131222397
>Russia tried to hack into and influence the election
There is no evidence of this. inb4 anonymous sources.

>Can we at least agree on this fucking fact, regardless of whether or not Trump colluded with them or not?
Can we agree on the fact that the Hillary campaign accepted money (which is influencing our elections) from basically every other nation on the planet openly and willingly and nobody mentions this?

>The amount of high-level Trump campaign / admin officials with direct ties to Russia
Direct ties to russia meaning "talked to the russian ambassador once" which is a group including literally the entire senate and a large portion of the house

>the amount of communication between high-level Trump campaign / admin officials and Russian operatives and their attempt to conceal it from American intelligence agencies and congress.
This literally didn't happen. Give me an example.

>>The Trump administration actively doing things that benefit Russia. For instance, one of their first actions was an attempt to remove sanctions.
>Be democrats
>Impose retarded sanctions and aggressive military postures 4 minutes before you leave office
>New president naturally undos this autism
>Try to use it as ammunition in baby's first conspiracy theory

>(4) T-Trump isn't playing along with the investigation into nothing! T-THIS IS SERIOUS GUYS WHAT IF HILLARY WON!!!

get raped, end yourself

all this reptilians/jewish elite controlling the world/clintons are colluding with them crap started from russia long before this election. they project their own corruption and thirst for world domination. putin doesn't like hillary or obama because they've called out his rigged elections.

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>>131226292
Except when they didn't and didnt hand over the servers in question, faggot.

>>131226021
>propaganda

Top kek. You know nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA

>>131226056
>this is unironically how the democrats win elections
>the GOP was so cucked that it actually worked for fucking decades

Sad!

>>131226292
>[citation needed]

>>131222397
>Can we at least agree on this fucking fact,

still no evidence presented.

>>131226420
Wow. Would be nice if the FBI got to take a look at their servers, huh?

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>>131226292
>be DNC
>staff member leaks emails about you being kikes
>try to distract from your massive asshole shit by reviving cold war scare tactics
>lie about RNC being hacked
>lie about wikileaks being connected to russia
>lie about muh intelligence agencies
>tfw not even obama will say there is evidence
in a press conference because he's distancing himself from you
>tfw nobody believes you except media talking heads and college students shilling /pol/ for a grade
>DNC's face when Trump just ignores you and tweets disparaging things about your wife
>DNC's face when accusing Russia of tampering with a house election in fucking georgia that they dumped 50 million dollars into, setting an all time record for most expensive failure second only to the hillary campaign

>>131222397
Russia hacks the group responsible for shady activity, finds it and makes it public. This makes us stronger so why wouldn't you want it to become public? Of course the RNC wants to distance itself from the nation state behind the hacks. Wouldn't you? The whole thing started out as hurr durr lets hack the DNC, but the end result was a better safer election process in the future. Also, why wouldn't want a republican candidate to win? Have you seen what's happened to Illinois?

>What is a proxy?

Okay I'm going to say this real slowly so you can understand it - obfuscating the origin of your attack is Hacking 101. If it's been "Backtraced" to a Russian IP block, well - it's probably not Russian.

I swear to God I'm so ashamed OP is from my country.

I'll ask you this: Which country do 80% of scans and attack attempts come from?

Did you say China? Ding ding ding!

t. Internet Security Engineer

>>131222397
>Russia wants the guy who empowered NATO
>actively interferes in their middle eastern pipeline project
>keeping China at arms length

>not the other guy who sold uranium to russia
>have established ties to russia that goes beyond diplomats
>willing to globalize america to prop up developing nations

Made me think to be honest.

>>131226902
This
>be serial killer
>man snoops in your house and finds the body parts in your freezer
>WTF THIS IS A HOME INVASION, ARREST THAT MAN
>LOOK EVERYONE PAY ATTENTION TO THAT EVIL BURGLAR

>tfw Obama campaigned for Remain in the UK and no one cried about it.
Please explain this to me. Also, faggots should be thanking russia for exposing DNC corruption. Blows my mind that people are so angry with the outcome that they are willing to brush away the corruption that was uncovered.

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>>131222397
>double-penetration puppeteering (DPP)

I dunno I haven't really seen any proof. Maybe they did, but what country doesn't try and influence others for their benefit?

Russia may have over stepped a bit, but USA has crossed the line numerous times in other countries - far more directly.

So I don't know. USA is in a bit of a pickle, either you admit Russia out smarted you and influenced the election of the most powerful role in the world or you admit you elected a person like Trump who had no qualifications and experienced many election ending blunders and still won.

Pick your humiliation.

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>>131227031
because we are le allies xDDDDD and obama is like, cool and stuff! Russia are bad guys

>>131222397

HOWEVER, there is literally no evidence supporting your wild assertion.

>>131226456
He does not say it cannot be hacked. He says it cannot be "rigged." A "rigged" election would be one in which someone at the top, ie the federal government, had decided the result from the get -go who the winner was and the election itself was just theater. Doing such a thing is a practical impossibility with the election decided by 3000 counties under the jurisdiction of 50 states each with their own voting systems.

This is completely distinct from hacking into some of the counties where the votes were close in order to switch the result, which is theoretically much more possible and simply a matter of resources and knowledge.

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>>131222397
>
*

Provide proofs.

>>131222397
>Can we at least agree on this fucking fact

Sorry, libshit, you don't get to just make up your own facts and proceed from there.

>>131227189
Go on, tell me how the paper ballots in michigan and pennsylvania were hacked idiot

>>131227189
>I'll take sematics for $1000, Alex

It took you long enough to come up with that answer. How quickly you forget about it being impossible to hack when your candidate was supposed to win.

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Russian interfered not by hacking but by sapping the will of the American voter. You cant vote for Hillary beceause shes a pizzagating shewitch and you cant vote for Trump because hes a reality star dufus, so why vote? Only 60 some percent of eligble voters voted. Fake News disemminated by the Russians caused Hillary to lose.

>>131226667
Who's servers? Hillary's?

>>131224587
>We have no idea what the extent is of the evidence they have.

Yet there you go, spouting your fat mouth like you know something.

Typical leftard.

>>131227362
fake news only hit the airwaves while we were digging through pizzagate bullshit here. Suddenly out of nowhere the media coined the term.

Most Americans simply feel disenfranchised and disaffected by the modern system, it will be worse next time, Russians or not.

>>131222397
>Can we at least agree on this fucking fact, regardless of whether or not Trump colluded with them or not?

no. you are literally retarded.

What the Russians really did originated in the Frankfurt School, and has destroyed American morals. Read a book :)

>>131227362
Last 40 years, average voter turnout

1976 152,308 81,603 53.6%
1980 163,945 86,497 52.8%
1984 173,995 92,655 53.3%
1988 181,956 91,587 50.3%
1992 189,493 104,600 55.2%
1996 196,789 96,390 49.0%
2000 209,787 105,594 50.3%
2004 219,553 122,349 55.7%
2008 229,945 131,407 58.2%
2012 235,248 129,235 54.9%
2016 250,056 (estimated)[9] 138,847 (estimated)[9] 55.5% (estimated)[9]

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>>131222397

It's getting better than that.

>>131222397
SHUT THE FUCK UP THERE IS NO PROOF NOR FACTS TO SUPPORT THIS CLAIM AND AT THIS POINT AT LEAST ONE CONCRETE FACTUAL PIECE OF EVIDENCE WOULD HAVE COME TO LIGHT.
IN EVEN DISCUSSING THIS STEAMING PILE OF HORSE SHIT IT FACTUALLY PROVES THAT YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED AND NOT INTERESTED IN POLITICAL DISCOURSE BUT WOULD RATHER ENGAGE IN PARTISAN IDENTITY POLITICS.
OH MY FUCKING GOD I HATE YOU SO MUCH
SAGE SAGE SAGE

>>131222397
Sorry sweetie. No evidence of russian intervention has been released outside if political hacks saying "trust us goy". Your narrative is going down in flames!

>>131226912
>Hacking 101
Is phishing considered hacking now?

See:
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>>131226420
pls respond

Honestly I hope lefties keep screaming RUSSIANS RUSSIAN PUTIN OMG! because everyone is fucking sick of it. Dems keep losing seats and they'll continue to lose more - screencap this.

>>131222397
>Russia tried to hack into and influence the election.
Zero proof of this so far, but you're all just so sure of it.

If we're being honest, why can't you admit that your Goldman-Sachs-serving, child-rapist-defending, vitriolic whore candidate got caught destroying federal documents to cover he crimes and that's why the bitch lost.

Russia had nothing to do with it.

>>131226292
Please, show me a source. Any source. A fucking Salon article, anything.

Op starts the thread with unproven statement put as a fact, "can we at least agree", lefty dementia spawned rumors, cites no sources, ignores all the valid responses and picks some he can easily respond to.

A shill.

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>>131222397
My ballsack just clenched in embarrassment for you. Consider how cringey it is for you to go full McCarthyite, a mere four years after King Nig said "The 80s want their foreign policy back".

>>131227666
satan trips calls it.

>>131222397
>there is suspicious behavior and actions justifying an investigation
There is such behavior from you that you do not investigate Clinton's murders.

There was only one lawful candidate that wasn't a mass murderer, so there is no victim of the result. Only the creation of evidence that every Clinton voter is now accomplice to all her crimes.

>>131225663
Some people don't want to acknowledge Russia's agenda and america agenda aren't the same and would suffer cognitive dissonance otherwise to make it appear the same.

>>131222397
>Russia tried to hack into and influence the election

Keyword: Tried. The election wasn't hacked. You guys lost, even with a great amount of evidence of cheating for Hillary. You have no evidence Trump colluded with Russia, and if Russia had managed to do anything it would be Obama's fault for not doing shit about it.

On top of that, you're ignoring Hillary's many connections with Russia, Mueller's connection to Comey and Hillary, the fact that many places tried to interfere (and failed), and the fact that you're basing that it was Russia entirely on IP addresses and nothing else, based on a discredited source.
IP addresses which can be faked and would be faked by hackers. Meaning it's more likely someone trying to frame Russia. I wonder who would try to frame Russia? Who could there be that wanted to start a narrative against Russia?

Also, who killed Seth Rich? I mean, no one is denying the man was murdered, but it seems like certain people have no interested in catching these cold-blooded killers that are loose on the city...

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>>131227362
>Russians came up with pizzagate
>Russians made hillary collapse and be thrown into a car
>Russians made hillary lie CONSTANTLY with easily provably false statements
>Russians made her break the law

Leave /pol/, seriously why are you here? You are WAY beyond being able to prove any of that if it, it's patently fucking ridiculous. Lizard people doing it is more believable than that.

>>131227791
Isn't Russia's agenda mostly to eat dinner every night?

>>131222397
Can we at least agree on this fucking fact, regardless of whether or not Trump colluded with them or not?
>No, because this has not actually been proven.

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>>131226855
>DNC's face when Trump just ignores you and tweets disparaging things about your wife
>DNC's face when accusing Russia of tampering with a house election in fucking georgia that they dumped 50 million dollars into, setting an all time record for most expensive failure second only to the hillary campaign
It truly is glorious.

>>131224587
>We have no idea what the extent is of the evidence they have
listen and believe goy, don't you trust the democrats to be objective?

>>131227319
The green party was pants on head retarded to call for a recount there.

>>131227362
You were unable to swell your ranks because Hillary is a terrible candidate. Even the double digit IQ DNC voting bloc knew she was a banker puppet. She wasn't "one of them". She wasn't black. She was a privileged white woman. And people hate her. Your rallies were empty. There was no enthusiasm outside of the very polically active, whose only confidence about the election was Drumpf's racism and flawed polling.

What did you expect?

>>131222397
Ok stop. Just fucking stop.

First and foremost the "direct ties to Russia" shit can be painted on Hillarys camp too. Specifically with Podesta and his brother. These people were on boards with Russian executives and even lobbied on the behalf of Russians to lift sanctions. And don't pull the Kislyak shit in here; he's a fucking ambassador of COURSE HES gonna talk to people like Sessions and other members of government. That's his fucking job

Let's talk the devils advocate approach and I honestly compel you to look at our interferences in Egypt, France, and other nations elections. We are hardly innocent. Does that make an influence campaign by Russia ok? No, but stop complainging you got caught with your pants around your ankles and fix your shit. If you want that to stop, focus your efforts on defense for next time.

Trump won because faggots like you can't fanthon how you've spent the last two elections hemmorrhaging seats in congress and senate, along with the presidency and most state governments.

>>131222397
>expose DNC corruption
>oy vey they influenced the election
You lost.

>>131227362
>Fake News disemminated by the Russians caused Hillary to lose.
What was fake about releasing dnc emails which showed a non-democratic preference for hill over bern?

>>131222397

I'm in the military. Would much rather fight for Russian interests than Israeli interests.

>>131224750
Even your God Emperor Obama said the idea that Russia change the outcome of the election was retarded.

>>131227007
I mean my opsec is kinda shity, but come on, clicking on links in an email, then getting your Workstation pwned... It just blows my mind. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in that it department when all of the Russians were keking it up after reading those emails about sacking Bernie. It really activates my almonds.

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>>131224587
>If you think that the evidence on the intelligence community's end is simply "digital fingerprints," you are a fool.

Then explain why the former Director of National Intelligence said he saw no evidence of collusion up until January 20th, 2017. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycZj5-5KJwA

You don't get to move the goalposts now. The accusation was that Trump and/or his surrogates colluded with Russia. Even normies are starting to realize they didn't. You're scrambling to change the story to, "Well, maybe they didn't ~actively~ collude, but Russia..."

No, fuck you. You picked your narrative, now you can die by it.

>>131228030
I actually thought it was hilarious, so many gullible retards like OP donated, although I'm pretty sure there were bigger (((donors))) involved

>>131222397
I guess the US kinda deserves it?(if any of us actually believe it?) The iranianians are by far the most secular people from the middle east I have ever met. I wont include israelis into this one, because those mofos love to keep to themselfs.(why?) why is the us allied with the most evil country of all time? I know saudis too, they are inbred pieces of shit in my experience.

>>131227919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1o4iySFX4I

>>131227791
>Some people don't want to acknowledge Russia's agenda and america agenda aren't the same

When have they ever been the same? And how does that prove your idiotic russophobe narrative?

Putin hurt Obogo's feelings and you tards want to retrogress to the cold war.

>>131222397
I don't fucking care, at all. Votes didn't get changed, so piss off with the russia bullshit.

Hillary would had destroyed the country with her extreme liberal friends. Remember the pc culture? Fuck that shit. We are getting some fresh conservative blood on the bench, and that is important to me.

>>131227848
We want to rule the world(((

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>>131227919
>DNC's face when accusing Russia of tampering with a house election in fucking georgia that they dumped 50 million dollars into, setting an all time record for most expensive failure second only to the hillary campaign

This one is gonna stay fresh for a while. My G-d they were banking everything on a district full of conservative white people that they don't actually give a shit about. And still managed to lose. All because Trump got on twatter and said "Vote "R"". My fucking sides.

>>131222397
You kiddy diddling freaks are not going to normalize your sick fetish here. I know your games. You will not influence anything here.

>>131222397
there is no evidence, we always hack in incognito mode

Podesta approved of Politico articles before publishing.

CNN gave questions before the debate.

MSM gave unfair coverage of trump and his agenda.

Globalist project came to crashing end.

>>131228386
>All because Trump got on twatter and said "Vote "R"". My fucking sides.

Trump's tweets about it were fucking hilarious.

>>131222397
Trump is prez get used to it faggot

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>>131227848

>>131228386
>>131228569
>>131227919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopjBRfwnlc

>>131228569
Didn't Trump spend the least on his campaign out of all the Republicans? Not sure if that's true but I heard it. And yet he still fucking won by campaigning on a free social media site (run by a hardcore liberal, no less).

>>131228330
>reality is russianphobic
Your emotional appeal aside nothing Trump is doing is advancing towards better Russian relations and I don't care what's /pol/'s dementia tells you, Trump is not aiding Russia on any platform.

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>>131228767
>"What kind of genius...g?"

Wikileaks drops info from Seth Rich. >"Muh Russians"
No you fuckin retarded cunts. They literally said "we did it" and no one listens because you are brainwashed by kikes.

>>131222397
>that whole dumbass rant
WRONG!

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Nope. You are either very badly informed or willfully blind to facts. Russia did not have anything to do with the Wikileaks emails. It was a DNC staffer-now murdered Seth Rich. We find out now that the CIA told Obama that "Russia" attempted to access voter records in 29 states several months before the election. He did nothing and hid the fact. WHY??? Glaringly obvious-it was not "Russia"-it was someone working for Hillary making it LOOK like Russia (a REAL Russian expert hacker would leave to trace). Obama KNEW so squashed the info. and investigation. It is insane to "assume" if there was some kind f hacking it was somehow FOR Trump and AGAINST Hillary??? When there is a lawsuit going on right now against the DNC for election rigging i the primaries. They are the experts.

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>>131228767
Pottery

>>131228074
The Attorney general position is a purely domestic job. There is no justification for Sessions to have been involved with Russians in his capacity as a purely domestic Trump campaign surrogate.

>>131228260
James Clapper has also made it clear that he has seen evidence that the Russia has been meddling in the election. Your point? My post is purely about whether or not the intelligence community was right in asserting that Russia was meddling in the election. You're arguing against collusion. The goal posts haven't been moved. You're just strawmanning my argument.

And Clapper not seeing evidence (that he can publicly assert) 5 months ago when he left his position does not mean evidence does not exist. A lot has come out since in then, and regardless of that statement, you look at the full testimonies and public comments from guys like Clapper and Brennan (the previous CIA director), and they make it pretty clear they suspect there was something suspicious going on between people in the Trump camp and Russia even if they could not meet an acceptable evidentiary standard to assert so publicly.

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>>131227588
Lol yes... And let's say it wasn't, stop being a semantic kike

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>>131222397
>Russia tried to hack into and influence the election.

>>131222397
Look, anon.

Every fucking day a new CNN article seems to come out saying "Russia hacked the election" or "Russia influenced the election" or "Putin controls Trump" and then millions of you stupid fucks believes it as though it's gospel.

But let me ask you something.

WHERE IS THE FUCKING PROOF.

THERE IS NO PROOF.

PEOPLE ARE SAYING WORDS AND MAKING CLAIMS THAT DON'T MEAN ANYTHING BECAUSE THERE'S NO FUCKING PROOF BECAUSE IT'S NOT FUCKING TRUE.

FUCK.

>>131229090
I like how OP memory holes:
>all the destroyed devices from clinton aides
>the 35 something "I plead the 5th" from Hillary >that hilarious "it was russian keyboards in Vermont!" episodes.

>>131228807
>reality is russianphobic

How so, moron?

>Trump is not aiding Russia on any platform.

Then why was there all this evil Trump collusion, dipshit?

>>131222397
>Can we at least agree on this fucking fact, regardless of whether or not Trump colluded with them or not?
No, because no evidence has been released. And because the intelligence agencies tried to hard to push the Trump collusion narrative, but came up empty handed, there is no reason to believe them at all.

>>131229162
>There is no justification for Sessions
He was a US senator you mong.

>>131222397
>can you guys be honest for once?
You first, cuck

>>131229162
>There is no justification for Sessions to have been involved with Russians in his capacity as a purely domestic Trump campaign surrogate.


He met with the russian ambassador as a senator, you deceptive little twat.

Daily reminder that Putin and Russia aren't the bad guys and that American imperialism is a real thing and an actual threat to the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSNzDRvf0bs

>>131229231
Can you read? I said "try," not that they were successful.

And votes being changed and votes being invalidated (by hacking into the registration databases) is an important distinction to make.

And Mike Rogers is either compromised as fuck or a rook in Obama's chess game.

>>131229690
You believed that? HAHAHAHA.

>>131222397
Honestly how does it feel to watch your "muh russia" narrative go up in a cloud of smoke?

Only the most braindead leftist zombies will even bring it up at this point.

>>131229853

Do I believe Sessions was a Senator? Yes, you ignorant fuck. Wiki it.

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>>131229162
He was SENATOR Sessions when he met with him, you fucking moron. God damn, I hate how online colleges will make you retards shill here for credit now.

>James Clapper has also made it clear
James Clapper has also fucking perjured himself for partisan reasons in the past, intentionally and without remorse.

>post is purely about whether or not the intelligence community was right in asserting that Russia was meddling in the election
Tell them to show some fucking EVIDENCE then. Inb4 it's classified, you can suck on my classified nuts.

>hurdur goalpost strawman (checks yourlogicalfallacyis.com again) tu quoque

>A lot has come out since then
Translation, a lot of substance-less bitching has occurred because democrats heard one time that if you repeat something enough times it becomes true, but didn't realize you have to be in a position of power to do so.

>they make it pretty clear they suspect there was something suspicious going on between people in the Trump camp and Russia
I'm making it pretty clear that I fucked your mother and I killed your dog. Die in a fire.

>>131222397
Where's the proof?

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>>131229394
Y'all drumpkins focus more on Hillary than her fucking medical handlers

>>131222397
>pic related
Provide some evidence. Even the Democrats on the intelligence committee have admitted there is none. The minute you start thinking for yourself, it will click.

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>>131230014
You niggers focus on Russia more than fucking Adidas advertisements.

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>>131230049
> >pic related
fucking forgot the pic

>>131226198

Even I have to say it....


Fuck off, leaf.

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>>131227841
Russia prevented the noble People of Colour from Pokemon Going to the Polls, and now we all have serious medical problems due to stress. How could those damn Russians do this to us?

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>>131229461
Look, you being angry doesn't change reality. Name one act as president Trump has taken that has benefited Russia.

>Then why was there all this evil Trump collusion, dipshit?
The MSM was never on Trump's side, you'd know that if you pay attention to the elections. Not because CNN asserts something does it suddenly become real, "I think therefore it is" doesn't apply to assertions as serious as election rigging, or aiding russian government meddling.

>>131230014

Yes. We're all obsessed by that loser. I post about her 9000 times a day.

Fact: This is the first time I've referenced her since the election.

>>131226198
I don't even have to say it syrup sucker

>>131230014
She won't shut the fuck up and fuck off just like Obama's interference.

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>>131229709

tfw we spent like no money and got Americans to work against their own interests

>>131230231

We're on the same side, trinabago.

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>>131230238

Lmao world's smallest violin, go cry about America imperialism some more and Jewish kikery

>>131230231
>Name one act as president Trump has taken that has benefited Russia.
When the Trump campaign got into office, one of the first things they did was try to remove Russia sanctions. They have been angling recently to give Russia back the spy compound Obama shut down back in January.

Trump has been treating NATO and Germany like shit.

Trump is reversing Obama's attempt to normalize Cuba relations, which is as good as handing Cuba over to Russia.

>>131230795
>one of the first things they did was try to remove Russia sanctions
>try

You really have fucking nothing, do you?

>>131230297
top kek. Accurate.

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>>131230586
>"p-professor, what do I do??"
>tsk tsk, you really messed this one up huh?
>tell them putin is a jew, I'm sure that will shift the discussion, that usually works
>make sure you use the word kike in your post so you fit in
>"thanks Mr. Goldberg"

>>131222397
>tried to influence
undoubtedly, since Hillary has long tried to set up a no-fly zone in Syria, escalating current tensions
>this is hacking
this is where you reveal yourself to be retarded

>ties to russia
>potential world leader shouldn't have any ties to other world leaders

>>131226420

I still don't believe that someone was stupid enough to put this report together and think it was credible proof of anything.

Total bullshit. The Russians thought Clinton would win and that's why they gave the Clinton Foundation so much money.

The only people who believe this garbage are either idiots or are paid to believe it.

Get a job looser.

>>131222397
Nice file name nigger

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>>131230795
>one of the first things they did was try to remove Russia sanctions
That were placed on Russia like 1 week before his inauguration on false pretenses as an attempt to either A) screw with foreign policy in the incoming administration if he doesn't lift them or B) accuse him of MUH RUSSIA when he lifts them

>Trump has been treating NATO and Germany like shit
GOOD. That's why I fucking elected him. I want Merkel dead but being humiliated globally is a great first step.

>Trump is reversing Obama's attempt to normalize Cuba relations
How is this even a point?? Are you able to explain what that has to do with Russia? Are you handicapped?

>>131230586

Yer pal, obongo was raised as a muslim before granny "a typical white person" took over.

>>131230795
>one of the first things they did was try to remove Russia sanctions.
There was an attempt however there are new sanctions on the way. Currently a republican congressman I believed a (R) texas put a halt to it for "review" or what I'll call obstruction.
>Trump has been treating NATO and Germany like shit.
Quite the opposite, NATO is finally being made to pay it's dues with new US bases setting up in Syria. As much as Germany flexes it's muscle the US has a stronger economy and greater gibs bargaining power.
>Trump is reversing Obama's attempt to normalize Cuba relations, which is as good as handing Cuba over to Russia.
That's an interesting outlook on it, I'll give you that. Personally I don't see how financially empowering Cuba or as Obama said "soft power" will make the Castro regime liberalize or lean to democracy when those individuals are routinely arrested.

>>131222397
>Mom i posted it again

>>131222397
>tried

>>131222397
I would choose putin over a jew any day of the week. and how come russia has positioned their country so close to all of those nato bases? they are not the fucking agressors. a simple google search would tell you the truth, jews. 90% of the first bolsevik government were from this "poor poor bastards". they killed over 30 million christians, but I guess thats ok?

>>131229162
Okay, so they meddled in the election. Sounds serious. Except for the part where "meddling in an election" could mean anything. It's so vague as to be meaningless. Some fat Russian NEET sitting in front of a computer wearing boxers he hasn't changed for two weeks retweeted an anti-Hillary Clinton meme? MEDDLING IN THE ELECTION.

There's more evidence that the DNC meddled in the election than Russia. They shut out a candidate that was more popular than the party establishment's favorite. Now, facing a lawsuit, they're arguing in court that they had no obligation to conduct a democratic primary: "DNC has now stated in a court of law is that it believes that there is no enforceable obligation to run the primary elections of this country's democracy in a fair and impartial manner."https://medium.com/@zachhaller/7-jaw-dropping-revelations-from-hearings-on-the-motion-to-dismiss-the-dnc-fraud-lawsuit-bee1723b713f

>there was something suspicious going on

How about surveillance of the opposition candidate during an election? That's pretty fucking suspicious. It was also characteristic of Obama's administration's habitual overreach. https://sharylattkisson.com/obama-era-surveillance-timeline/

It's been a year. Where are the charges? Thanks to Obama's last-minute executive order, the FBI and CIA have access to NSA records (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/us/politics/nsa-gets-more-latitude-to-share-intercepted-communications.html). If they can't produce charges after a year of investigating and with months of access to the NSA's records of communications between anyone remotely connected to Trump and foreign nationals, then you have to start questioning a) whether there is any evidence, and b) what game they're playing at.

>>131222397
>Russia tried to hack into and influence the election.
Do you have any idea how retarded this sentence is? You can't just hack into an election. What does that even mean? Of all the things you could pick on Trump for that he has actually done, why this retarded and meaningless Russia story. Nothing Russia could possibly have done could have changed the outcome. People listened to the politicians and voted for the one they preferred, they weren't mind controlled by the Russians. This isn't James Bond. It's literally nothing. Why pick on the Russia connection at all? Surely the Israel connection is the more urgent problem.

>>131222397
too long
did not read

>>131222397
>Muh Russia made me a losing liberal faggot

Give me a break. If "Russia" hacked the DNC, then why didn't the DNC turn over their servers to the FBI or Homeland when asked for it? This would have been the smoking gun evidence to prove it! Perhaps because the evidence would have pointed out that Seth Rich was the leaker...

You fucking niggers make yourselves look like utter faggots because you cry like whiny bitches whenever you don't get your way.

>>131222397
>a phishing campaign from a russian ip address means putin was directly involved

>democrats rigged the primarys and the media shilled lies 24/7 for a year but russia is the problem

>voter id is racist

>the fuckwits that used password for a password are concerned about cyber security

If you killed yourself the world would be a better place

>how do you hack an election exactly?...is it like deleting emails?

>>131222397
NYT, Nov 2016

>the FBI says there’s no definitive connection between Donald Trump and the Russian government, reaching that conclusion after a wide-ranging investigation

>law-enforcement officials who said any cyberattacks carried out were “aimed at disrupting the presidential election rather than electing Trump.”

>no conclusive evidence of deliberate communications between Trump and a Russian bank

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html?_r=0

http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-donald-trump-russia-connection-2016-10
Paul Ryan, Feb 2017

>“No one has ever showed us any evidence that any collusion had occurred between an American involved with the political system and the Russians.”

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/321578-ryan-wont-say-if-he-has-seen-evidence-of-contact-between-trump-campaign-russia
James Clapper, March 2017

>“[Regarding] NSA, FBI…CIA…Director of National Intelligence (DNI), that had anything, that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians, there was no evidence of that included in our [January] report,” Clapper testified. He was asked, “…but does it exist?” He answered, “Not to my knowledge.”

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/full-clapper-no-evidence-of-collusion-between-trump-and-russia-890509379597

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/08/politics/white-house-donald-trump-russia-james-clapper/
Devin Nunes, March 2017

>NUNES: Well, I think — I understand that…but I can tell you that we don’t have any evidence and we’re conducting our own investigation here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/03/20/full-transcript-fbi-director-james-comey-testifies-on-russian-interference-in-2016-election

>>131235136
Cont.

James Comey, March 2017

>Comey was asked if he agreed with former Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Clapper who said there was “no evidence” of “collusion between the members of the Trump campaign and the Russians.” Comey replied, “I think he’s right about characterizing the [January] report which you all have read.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/03/20/full-transcript-fbi-director-james-comey-testifies-on-russian-interference-in-2016-election/?utm_term=.472511ee25a7
Chris Stewart, March 2017

>“At this point, everyone on this dais should agree with Mr. Clapper because we in the committee have seen no evidence, zero, that would indicate that there was collusion or criminal wrongdoing between any members of the previous [sic] administration or campaign and Russian officials.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/03/20/full-transcript-fbi-director-james-comey-testifies-on-russian-interference-in-2016-election/?utm_term=.472511ee25a7
Adam Schiff, April 2017

>When asked, “Can you say definitively that there was collusion, there were people affiliated with the Trump campaign who were working with Russians to time the release of damaging information about Hillary Clinton that had been hacked either from [Hillary campaign chair] John Podesta or the DNC?” Schiff replied, “I don’t think we can say anything definitively at this point.”

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/04/02/adam_schiff_there_is_no_definitive_proof_of_any_trump-russia_connection.html

>>131235248
Cont


Diane Feinstein, May 2017

>When asked if she had evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign, Feinstein replied, “Not at this time.”

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/feinstein-no-evidence-collusion-between-trump-associates-russia/


Joe Manchin, May 2017

>“People that might have said they were involved, to what extent they were involved, to what extent the president might have known about these people or whatever, there is nothing there from that standpoint that we have seen directly linking our president to any of that.”

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/manchin-no-evidence-collusion-between-trump-russia/
James Clapper, May 2017

>At a hearing, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) asked Clapper if it’s still accurate that he has no knowledge of the existence of evidence of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. Clapper replied, “It is.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/05/08/full-transcript-sally-yates-and-james-clapper-testify-on-russian-election-interference/?utm_term=.74edb763a166
Maxine Waters, May 2017

>Rep. Waters has repeatedly stated that President Trump “has colluded with the Russians,” but when asked if she has seen evidence to back up her claims, Waters replied: “No, we have not.”

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/05/09/waters-i-believe-trump-colluded-with-the-russians-i-havent-seen-any-evidence-to-back-that-up/

Kill yourself

Seriously tho.

I mean seriously tho.


Why the fuck, in today's world, with all the info we have on everyone is this even a thing?

Russia didn't do shit.

If they did do shit, show me. I'll totally change my mind.

But forreal tho, is there tangible proof?

Fuck this, there isn't. This is a typical " tell a lie enough it's real"

>>131235284
Video links

MAXINE WATERS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px6v0XbjiZI
CHRIS MURPHY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIEhGFoeXXU
JAMES CLAPPER #1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMbQGSWsN_0
JAMES CLAPPER #2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycZj5-5KJwA
JAMES CLAPPER / SALLY YATES #1: https://youtu.be/uU9a9-w2vjk
JAMES CLAPPER / SALLY YATES #2: https://youtu.be/HSLrDoVLZus
DIANNE FEINSTEIN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BS5amEq7Fc
ADAM SCHIFF: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8ifT1lssHY
DEVIN NUNES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8iicUyOeik
JOE MANCHIN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9qDolBGkEo
JAMES COMEY #1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgeUNmplhsQ
JAMES COMEY #2 (KIND OF): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA5CN1dF45k
JAMES COMEY / MICHAEL ROGERS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCQgBOJsRKw
MICHAEL ROGERS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5c4Hw-hr80
PETER KING: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsv9JV7vFjk
TOM COTTON: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ovUQVO2iY
TREY GOWDY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC0Jb7C9JRM
PAUL RYAN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRjRDOArsl4
RAND PAUL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gs41QdqJJM
LORETTA LYNCH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuL2QdqkCdQ
VLADIMIR PUTIN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KCWyyLmXg0
JULIAN ASSANGE CONFIRMS LEAKS ARE NOT FROM RUSSIA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faoHbgTTiHg
BARACK OBAMA [states elections cannot be hacked]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cruh2p_Wh_41

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>>131235421

Want me to keep going you stupid cunt?

Donald J Trump. President. USA.

Defeated "most qualified candidate" EVER.

Lmao. What are we 7 months and you all are still mad as fuck?

>>131235576
except he didnt defeat her

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>>131222397


umm no.

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>>131222397

and no again

>>131235573
And here is the dems FAKING russian links to start world war 3 over their shitty tantrum

Russia is a complete hoax. This is old news. We have known for months.

Guccifer 2.0 has been proved to be faked, appears to have been done by a DNC employee:

http://g-2.space

The DNC refused to let the FBI look at the server:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/27/dem-rep-confirms-committee-will-investigate-fbi-claim-dnc-denied-it-access-to-servers/

Trump tower server was found to be faked then quickly disappeared from the news:

http://circa.com/politics/alfa-bank-in-russia-said-donald-trump-computer-connections-may-have-been-hacker-hoax

https://weaponizedautism.wordpress.com/2017/04/09/trump-dns-logs-fabricated/

Cloudstrike retracts portions of Russian Hacking Report:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-28/something-stinks-here-crowdstrike-revises-retracts-parts-explosive-russian-hacking-r

FBI used known fake document (piss dossier) to get a FISA warrent to spy:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-11/fbi-reportedly-sought-fisa-court-warrant-spy-trump-campaign-officials

No evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia:

http://investmentwatchblog.com/intercept-nsa-article-admits-no-evidence-of-trump-russia-collusion-dianne-feinstein-admission/

Comey is being sued for covering up illegal spying

http://circa.com/politics/accountability/james-comey-sued-by-intelligence-contractor-dennis-montgomery-over-spying-on-americans

>>131235677
You understand you're now proving the point of my post my dude.

>>131236004
wtf!! i love reporters now.

>>131235136
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>>131236136

Where the fuck did you go OP? Why did you run away like the little bitch you are?

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>>131222397
>Can you guys be honest for once?
>WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Why are you niggers so goddamn assblasted? Grow the fuck up retards, and quit crying like brain-dead bitches. It's cringy as fuck.

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>>131222397

Who won WWII?

America, UK AND RUSSIA YOU NITWIT


Russia today is NOT part of the globalist take over of all our banks, culture and jobs.

Russia saved Western civlization when we worked together to stamp out the NAZI

Russia will save Western Civlization again (MORE THAN NATO) which is the fight against Islam and China.

We have some common interests when you remove the bankers and Saudi/Iran (Sunni/Shia) divide, things get much more easier.

All considered, we have more to lose supporting Radical Islam than we do "Radical" russians.

When was the last time Russia killed an American, or beat America economically?

We are like 10 times the size of Russian economy.. They need us more than we need them. but working together we can make something greater than our parts.

Russia can be used to influence Iran/China and NK!

We can also use Russia to hedge the globalist bankers that made a mess out of Palestinians/Iraq/Syria and Libya.

>>131235677
Yes he did.
>>131222397
Trump won because Americans didn't want the face of corruption in America, Hillary Clinton, to be our leader.
Americans were sick of the direction the country was moving in and we changed it.
Keep crying bitch. Hillary belongs in prison and nowhere but.

>>131224673
No it wasn't, you petulant losertard child.

The Cheka is capable of mass propaganda, but they aren't capable of throwing an American election.

Putin and the embassy in DC figured on a weakened Clinton. They had no idea Trump was going to win. The entire Russia meme was about a Democratic Party that ran an awful candidate that lost States Dukakis and Bill Clinton won.

It's also about something else: if the Progs scream loud enough, they can cover up the penetration of the Dem Party by Chinese Intelligence, the money laundering of the Clinton foundation, and the entire political corruption scandal that has been rotting the DNC from the inside out.

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THe flip side is, why do you think Russia is so bad when Obama and Hillary both thought they are just dandy to sell 20% of our Uranium production??????

This goes in circles. Obama nd Hillary are shit, and they spied on Trump to sink him but found no dirt only small ties to some low level deals or possible loans from banks but Hillary and Obma have much much worse in their background with deals with Iran and Saudis.

20% of Hillary's campaign was funded by Saudis who want to topple Assad for a new Qatar based pipeline

My dude trump. Zero political experience whipped up the most basic goddamn hat known to man, grabbed a microphone and hopped on his jet and WON the presidency by out working everyone else.

Lmao. I guess my big ole pussy would be hurting if I was a democrat too. Lmao

USA has been doing all that stuff and much, much more to many countries for decades.

lmao.

>>131222397
>Russia tried to hack into and influence the election.

They did? How? Give us details.

Incomplete list of the dems current legal issues

- dnc fraud lawsuit
- comey leaking
- lynch probe
- internal power stuggles
- obama spied on everyone and only told congress days before the election
- podesta via WaPo saying obama sat / choked on 'russia info'
- clinton blaming the media for not shilling hard enough
- independant / lib group recently investigated seth rich and concluded its not a robbery and beimg covered up
- awans maybe blackmailing dems
- DWS threatning capital police
- sanders under investigation
- clinton foundation investigation

>>131236861
so juicy

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>>131235136
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>>131236861

Democrats are not just defeated they are destroyed. You get nothing ever again

>>131222397
>>131225496
there's no proof, faggots

"it went from russia hacked the election"
to
"trump is colluding with russia"
to
"russia tried to hack"

which is it, bitches??
everyone in the usa is trying to fuck with trump and russia but THEY CAN'T
cuz they don't have the fucking proof

come back here when you have proof, you bitchass niggers.

>>131222397
>this fact

Cool, so you have evidence finally?

>>131222397
cannot agree is fact, but if it were, I would not be caring

>>131222397
Seth Rich leaked the DNC emails, the Russian Hackers fairytale is just to redirect the public away from his suspicious murder

FbI anon here, let me be honest, no, the russians didnt hack jack didly squat. Hillary was promised the presidency. The Diebild machines were pre-programmed to give her the win. But her unmitigated disdain for the military and especially S2 led to a last minute decusion to remove the Soros program from the machines

DHS admittedly was busted breaking into the 3 states registrars on election night once they realized the script wasnt going as planned.

if there are any of you left here with a fraction of tech knowledge.. Ask yourselves why Diebold stores vote tallies as real numbers.

heres the field of playas as of 2017:
CIA , DHS, and non career FBi vs USMC INTELLIGENCE (DNI), NRO, and D. I. A

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>>131236379
Holy shit dude. Thanks for all the links.

>>131222397
>Russia tried to hack into and influence the election
-There is zero proof of this
-The only 'evidence' is that Trump was involved with someone-who-knew-someone-who talked to a Russian diplomat. There are three degrees of separation between him and an actual Russian during his campaign
-That's not even good enough to put someone on a watchlist, Watchlists require two degrees of separation
-The media parades around announcing there is proof of this, BUT-

-Is yet to present a single shred of evidence that this happened
-Comey himself, the person heading up the investigation, said it was only an attack angle

You have no ground to stand on. You lost the election, get over it.

>>131222397
NO EVIDENCE

GTFO

>>131222397

Do you know how easy it is to fake the evidence they are basing these claims on?

Russian IP address: just use a proxy server in Russia

"We found some cyrillic characters in the data" - open up Word, you have a Cyrillic font, or just use the ASCII codes for Cyrillic characters

That's all they've based it on.

Just like the Sony hacks weren't actually North Korea, the actual hackers used North Korea as a patsy and North Korea was more than happy to be the fall guy.

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>>131237340
My absolute pleasure sir, half comes from the anon that gave me this pastebin

https://pastebin.com/FsvU4SuU

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>>131222397
>voting machines not connected to the internet
>rushinz hacked the election.
kys

>>131230795
Do you mean the sanctions put on them because of unproven supposed meddling they did?

Also, again with the 'tried'.

NATO and Germany deserve what Trump has told them. They want us to pony up and do all the work with keeping up an army to protect everyone, and get flabbergasted if anyone dares suggest they should take any responsibility for themselves. Merkel has been actively abusing her citizenry with her policies, not protecting them.

We have a myriad of Cubans who have fled Cuba because of their leadership and you're for Obama getting in bed with those assholes? As far as I've heard, there aren't a ton of complaints about Cuban refugees who come here. They seem to adapt and become citizens, and they love America because they know what it was like to live in Cuba. Why should we support the Castros?

It hasn't happened yet but I hope we do remove sanctions from Russia, because Obama put the sanctions in for bullshit reasons. But people like you would screech that it's "proof" that Trump and Putin are secretly lovers. You realize we're not at fucking war with Russia, right? And you don't see a lot of Russian suicide bombers or mass shooting being done by Russians on European or American citizens. If you idiots keep pushing and pushing to start a war with Russia, trying to force America into it with your dumbass made up narratives, the blood of people on both sides will be on your hands.

>>131222397
>215 replies
wow, it's pretty fuckin leddit in here

>>131222397
Blaming Russians for exposing Crooked Hillary is like blaming your doctor for telling you you're fat.

SLAVA ROSSIYA!

>>131222397
Fuck off communist nigger.

>>131235677
Hillshill is such a fin president today...right?

>>131237614
you are doing god's work, anon
saved that link and capped your posts for reference

>>131222397
bait, glorious bait,
buzz words and elections!
While we're in the mood --
Cold facts and triggers!
replies, hate and shitposting
What next is the question?
Rich gentlemen have it, success --
in their digestion!

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>>131237544
See
>>131236136
We don't just know it can be faked, we have proof they have been faking it

>>131222397
1) Russia tried to influence the election
2) Saudi Arabia tried to influence the election
3) Mexico tried to influence the election
4) Germany tried to influence the election
5) Israel tried to influence the election

Which country didn't try to influence the election.
It's your job as a candidate for presidency of the US to be able to handle foreign leaders.

Trump did. hillary did not.

>>131222397
>(1 )The amount of high-level Trump campaign / admin officials with direct ties to Russia

None proven, only your (((assumptions))) Those that have been proven have been removed (Flynn.). If you admit this, you also admit than Comey, Lynch, and Clinton had ties to criminal elements and/or activity under your own definition and they therefore deserve every punishment available using every resource you're assuming should be exploited against Trump..

>(2) the amount of communication between high-level Trump campaign / admin officials and Russian operatives and their attempt to conceal it from American intelligence agencies and congress.

>implying the american intelligence community is trustworthy

>(3) The Trump administration actively doing things that benefit Russia. For instance, one of their first actions was an attempt to remove sanctions.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooo, anything but diplomacy!

>(4) Trump's own actions, including attempts to obstruct the investigation into Flynn, who is the most likely person at this point to be indicted for his behavior, Trump's lies about his involvement with Russian oligarchs and general refusal to clarify (officially) his business ties, and Trump's continued rejection of Russian involvement in anti-American and general refusal to speak sternly about an entity hostile to America and American interests.

>deports thousands, puts a chilling effect on immigration

Oh boy, nothing like being against american interests by basically killing everything unamerican.

>>131222397
TL,DR LOL

You want some honesty friendo? Here's some honesty for ya. Both Russia and the United States have been meddling iin each-others political affairs for the last 70 years. Absolutely nothing new here. Probably not even the highest level of subversive behavior we have seen.
In fact, definitely not, since in the "good ole days". The Russians managed to get hundreds of their fucking spies into the FBI, CIA, politics, tech, banking and so on and so forth. Meanwhile while we have not been as successful getting our own American boys into Russia, we have funded and fought the Ruskies by Proxy almost everywhere in the world and continue to do so.

But the media absolutely has gone insane. Those who control the media have gotten completely out of touch, and their personal disdain for Trump has led to the man becoming president by constantly pushing this retarded narrative.

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>>131238612
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/24/opinion/sunday/donald-trump-jon-ossoff-democrats.html

>WASHINGTON — YOU know who is really sick and tired of Donald Trump winning, to the point where they beg, “Please, Mr. President, sir, it’s too much”?

>Democrats.

>>131222397
>Can you guys be honest for once?
Yes.
>Russia tried to hack into and influence the election. They tried to help Donald Trump win out of a disdain for Hillary Clinton, Western / American influence, and belief Trump would be better for their goals.
But you can't.
Good night, Lügenpresse.

>>131222397

Sure. I'll agree. Russians are the good guys. I'm glad they are intervening to save Europe and the U.S.

>>131222397
Too many amphetamines and too much propaganda. Stop doing sex with your bum, shill

Saged

Fuck everyone for replying.

>>131238713
Tell me this is real.

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>>131222397
I thoguht Russia tried to influence our election until the official report that was released said that one of the major deciding factors in their conclusion was that Russia Today (American version) had played a documentary about Occupy Wall Street two or three days before the election.

Grasping. At. Straws.

>>131222397
remember when Hillary is projected to have 99% chance to win by media? why is that?
remember that Sanders endorse Hillary after he lost? Why is that?
Remember when there's evidence that Hillary supporters vote in multiple place and theres the Dem tinkering with machine ballot against sanders? Why is that?
That is because dems RIGGED the election so Hillary can win. but of course it wont work with trump, because (you) cant stump the trump.

>>131224587
>highly unlikely to have been someone with resources smaller than a nation
Just a couple of spearphishing attacks.

Are you saying I have resources of a nation?

>there are WMDs in Iraq, trust me goy

>>131239454
You can do the guccifer checks yourself, you can also still grab the trump server logs to check

Both of those have archived links as well if they ever try and cover their tracks

>>131222397
we love clinton tho, admit that

>>131222397
you know what was hard to hack?
standardized testing card you use a #2 pencil on.

JUST DO THAT AGAIN

sometimes old school methods are better

>>131239672
there's gas in Syria goy
there's discrimination against "moderates" in Libya goy
Qatar is ev-wait nevermind goy

>everyone needs an imaginary enemy to get them out of bed.

>>131240289
Israel isn't imaginary

Russia made people consciously go to the ballot box and vote for trump. The Clinton campaign openly admitted they concocted this story less than 24 hours after the campaign loss. Turn off your CNN and get back to reality op..

>>131222397
Hillary tried to influence the election

Just let that sink in for a minute.

>>131222397
Replace Russia with Israel and Trump with any political candidate and read it again.

This whole Russian hackers thing is 4D chess to get you normies to realize it's not okay for foreign powers to influence our politics and infiltrate our government. I can show you clear evidence that Israel meddles in many of our affairs, but you wouldn't care. Yet you have no real evidence that Russia meddled on this one occasion, and it's the biggest fucking deal ever.

>>131222397

We hack their elections and they hack ours. Regardless their hacks were not enough to make a difference, so what?

Do you really want a nuclear exchange with Russia - end of the world scenario. What is so bad about having good Russia - US relations. We should be talking to Russia and in fact they should be our greatest ally against Islamic terrorism. I and any rational person would have a problem if Trump was not close to Russia-Putin.

Oh, I get it, your old hag cunt politician lost so we should want the end of the world now.

Fuck you and your has been candidate. We will not follow you to armageddon.

Im convinced no liberals ever played sports growing up. At the end of a baseball game whether you win or lose you shake hands with the opposing team and say good game. These are things you learn as a child yet the Democratic party cant accept a loss. The American people have spoken.. you lost.. that's it.. president trump is your president . Sometimes in life you don't always win. Keep acting the way you are because I love watching you self destruct

>>131241207
They are not called the "tolerant" left for nothing.

>>131223426
what's that? the left wants a war?
the warmongering left!

How is this Russia meme still going without a shred of evidence. I have yet to see a single piece of any corroborating evidence anywhere, let alone some kind of smoking gun.

Can someone explain this? This scandal seems entirely manufactured

>>131241172
Better relations are a must. Russia isn't our best friend, and shouldn't be, but the cold war Russia is our mortal enemy mentality has to end.

>>131222397
No one is agreeing with your dumbass premise.

Get over it.

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>>131222397
no
we're not going to war with Russia no matter what you kikes say, if you try, we will start shooting you
now fuck off.

>>131222397
Ted Kennedy collusion to de feet Reagan. Look it up and geif meh yer salt plox.

>>131223300
underrated post

russia and trump are not part of the (globalist) power structure. (seems like they are but thats the point)

That's why he's getting such a violent response. That's why russia is a bad guy after ww2

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>>131241626
Its all they have left

As soon as it dies you will see open warfare between the hard left and the center left.

Democrats will self destruct without trump having to lift a finger

>>131241207
Dude Trump was complaining about voter fraud AFTER HE HAD WON! Hillary can't admit that she was a bad candidate and Donald can't admit that the majority voted against him. Both suck.

>>131222397
Kys you're a gay nigger

>>131241776

Why should they not be? The US government should not be taking Oligarch sides. The only threat Russia poses is some of their Oligarchs pose a threat financially to some western Oligarchs. To take it beyond that to the point of threaten world peace is bullshit.

>>131242022
maybe we will be able to take advantage of the fallout to get the center left on our side

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>>131225496
>it is likely for my country's benefit.
You don't even see the problem with the idea of GLOBALISM.

>>131242109
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/

Try again faggot

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>>131242109
He won the popular vote too, Hillary cheated MASSIVELY
In Detroit alone there were more votes than voters.

I swear this entire thread is liberals begging us to let them have something, anything
>Please /pol/ let us have one win.
how fucking sad you people have become.

>>131242372
I think the stipulation here is that those numbers are from the 2012 election i think. It was probably worse this year

>>131242372
Russia hacked the election. the only way to stop it is to demand paper ballots and voter id checks.

>>131222397
muh russia

>>131242499
MUCH worse. Trump ran on getting rid of Illegals
You know they came out to vote against him in force
Even Obama told Illegals to go vote.

>>131222397
>Can we at least agree on this fucking fact, regardless of whether or not Trump colluded with them or not?

Why should we agree on something you can't even provide evidence for?

Russia = Seth Rich
remember, the claim that Russia obtained and leaked the emails?

It was Seth Rich though, and he could have testified that it was not in fact Russia but he was killed.

Although it does not matter because Julian Assange can also testify
AND HE DID - AND CNN REPORTED IT IN JANUARY
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/04/politics/assange-wikileaks-hannity-intv/index.html

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>>131222397
>russia wants the candidate who doesn't want to go to war with them to win

>>131222568
We all know

>>131242859
What a gif!

>>131222397
uh no america voted for who they voted for. majority was hillary but trump won the proper states when its comes down to it. also all of the commuication you are talking about happened AFTER the election go fuck yaself. nigger
plus all your other points are incorrect.

>>131222397
Every single Western country was trying to influence the election for Hillary Clinton. The BBC and British parliament were a far bigger influencer than anything Russia could have influenced. Can you agree with this?

>>131222397
I call bullshit months before the election when Trump called bullshit and rigging by Hilary and the democrats they called him a child for not being able to accept the facts that the election can not be rigged. Even Obama fucling said this and when he won against all odd now suddenly everyone is calling foul?
Everyone needs to fuck off with this Russia narrative that obviously only exists to try to undermine the people's faith in the Is government

I think only American "intelligence" can be that dumb to think you can hack an election.

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>>131222397
Everything you believe about the election is bullshit cooked up by these two men:

>>131242366
There is a reason that not a single major republican has mentioned this so called "study" and why that website is the only site running the story, and that's because it's complete horse shit. If this was real, Sean Spicer would be shoving it down the press' throats every second he could.

Didn't Trump set up a special committee led by Pence to find out about voter fraud? Have the found anything?

>>131242366
They'll publish an article like this at 3 AM and bury it under a dozen anti-Drumpf stories, hoping it won't get circulation. That's how they live with themselves.

>>131242372
I could say that you sodomize yourself with your mother's dildo "up to" several hundred times a day and be telling the truth, no matter what the answer actually is.

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>>131222397

just try to find out whose idea it was to put Exxon CEO in as Sec State, when Exxon has billion dollar deal with Russia tied up by Obama's sanctions. Trump sure as shit knew jack shit about it, so how did Exxon get Tillerson in?

boomers dont even know http meaning yet know russians hacked the election kek

>>131242372
Trump (all 50 states): 62,984,825
Clinton (all 50 states): 65,853,516
-2,868,691
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016

Trump (California): 4,483,810
Clinton (California): 8,753,788
-4,269,978
https://twitter.com/johnmyers/status/806682239979245568

"Muh popular vote" is a meme if you take ONE state out of the equation and the vote flips to the other candidate.

Plus Barack Obama lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton in the primary elections in 2008. Nobody is bitching about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2008

>>131242372
>>131242366

I just looked at the data for the study you idiots are referencing, and the number of illegals they surveyed was 339, of which 39 said they had voted.

339 fucking people, and you think that's a legitimate study. KYS.