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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
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>>131212932
fuck off, no reactionaries allowed
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>>131212932
Never fail me
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>>131213475
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>>131213541
The gulag fear the pickaxe
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>>131211618
good evening comrade!
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>>131211618
Name a single, wholly communist country that has existed and not been a complete fucking disaster.
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>>131213430
Fuck you, I'd rather band together with him rather than you faggots, who will scream "REACTIONARY" like it's something fucking bad.
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When has there ever been a productive conversation in one of these threads?
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>>131213541
> Trotsky.
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>>131214376

Did you mean socialist country with communist party?

>>131214181

Hi there comrade
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It's not real communism
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>>131214181
comac?
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>>131214553
No. Most commies seem to be masochistic. I think it's inherent to their ideology
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>>131214376
USSR.

Unless, of course, you consider Russian Empire a fucking paradise on Earth.
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>>131214553
>>131214376

Never because there is no good answer to this question.

Communist countries are always either horrific dictatorships or meaningless impoverished flyover states. There exists no evidence to prove otherwise.

>inb4 "but those weren't real communism"
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>>131214759
>a collapsed country that murdered half its population
this is your brain on communism.
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>>131211618
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>>131214759
Oh good, I'm going to pay that country a visit... Wait...
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>>131214376
Cuba
>just compare their health care systems against the average burger
>Cuba is supercovered in medical practisioners
>They exports doctors, not bombs
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>>131214804
/thread
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>>131214759
https://www.quandl.com/data/MADDISON/GDPPC_SUN_NEW-GDP-Per-Capita-of-Former-USSR-New-Estimate

>The adjusted GDP per capita was never more than $7000 USD
>MFW nearly all first world countries average citizens make this much in a quarter

I am not impressed.
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>>131214804
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>>131214744
when I was younger! Antwerpen!
Goeienavond kamaraad!
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>>131213430
Let him be, I find it kind of funny desu, its sort of tradition to post that pasta. I try to not take it personally.
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>>131214953
>falling for the propaganda photos this hard
What the fuck
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>>131214953
https://tradingeconomics.com/cuba/gdp-per-capita

Again, this economy is on par with many shitty african and middle eastern countries in the productivity and quality of life for it's citizens.

>they literally killed people who tried to leave cuba
>the only way you can keep people in is if they don't know what is outside

Next.
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>>131214953
guba :DDD
>jud gombare state reporting of guba helth care :-DD
>guba super gud they say so X-DDDD
>they export dogtor who flee from torture and starbation XXX---PPP
>chegmate gaptialisms :DDDD
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>>131215121
hahaha, goeienavond

t. NSV Antwerpen
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>>131215083
(((Projected)))
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>>131215083
How can you be this retarded? Those are the USSRs numbers. The estimate by economists is way the fuck lower you commie piece of shit.
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>live in capitalist country
>start business with a few friends
>we own ze means of production comrade
>we make lots of money and it's great

>live in communist country
>violently seize ze means of production from ze evil bourgeoisie because they're evil and stole it from me in the first place
>starve to death

fugg
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>>131215083
Hey that seems like a cool country to visit, let's go there!
>oh wait, it's not a country anymore. Oh well.
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>>131215302
sure buddy. also I learn everything from USA by seeing Hollywood movies
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>>131211618
Lefty poll is invading


Fuck off
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>>131215083
>if it wasn't for the whole "the entire system failed" thing it would've been awesome

could've done without the 50 million deaths too but whatever lol
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>>131215747

you fuck off , this is not rightypol
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This image frightens the commie.
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>>131211618
communism is a dead meme for retarded children
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>>131215377
Careful friend, I hope you will get a quick death in America. Would not want you to in order to cure your cancer and sell meth to cover you treatment.
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>>131216023
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>>131216023
How does this make you feel?
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>>131215083
>turning everything into government spending increases a stat includes government spending
>the GDP of one country from a union that was several large blocs of countries
>still lost to America by two folds at its peak
Well shiver me timbers landy.
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>mfw commies think USSR self reports are accurate>>131215918
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>>131211618
(((Communism)))
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>>131215918
>literally no economist will believe you
>no one will believe you
>because they can look at the tattered infrastructure, lack of innovation, and willingness of the people to rebel against your shithole party that was holding them back

You're like flat earthers or something. Like that fucking guy off of ancient aliens. Look at those shithole commie block apartments and tell me that living there wasn't like prison for everyone
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>>131212932
Foul bourgeoisie lies serving the counter-revolutionary conspiracy.
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>>131216473
This.
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Can someone explain the second economy to me?
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>>131216113
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>>131216408

You are worth what you are worth. What you are willing and able to produce. If you're worth more than that you can try and get someone else to pay for your welfare, but it wont be me you fucking commie nigger.
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>>131216320
strange to see it made the headlines in Belgium
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>>131216681
>being this retarded
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>it's another spainon thread
Pathetic

Is that Finnish kid in here?
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>>131216580

>Retreats from discussion and posts cat pictures and drawings of little girls that beg for sympathy

You disgust me, and I bet your father is ashamed of your inability to fend for yourself.
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>>131216906
Don't be salty, it is bad for your heart.
Stay healthy burger!
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>>131216895
don't you think the reaction from the left was overblown?
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>>131217245
>Implying
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>>131217117
Except that this doesn't happen anywhere, because starving, uneducated, unmotivated people make terrible soldiers, and even worse loyal citizens

>show me a communist leader that didn't have repeated assassination attempts made on them by their own people
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>>131217385
Hey it seems you know a lot about communism.
Can you answer my comment here? >>131216588
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>>131217385
communism is capitalism but in capitalism they are just more greedy
and with the amount of jews in both they might as well be judaism
prove me wrong
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>>131217615
He's done, we fractured his dream world so now he is stuck in his autistic self soothing phase.
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>>131211618
To the oven
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>>131217713
>Confederate flag
Fuck off traitor.
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I noticed a lot of people here speak the tongue of spurdo spärde on their posts
Ebin :-DD
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>tfw you don't even get to kill commies
>they just realize they are retarded and leave
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The rise of automation will see a new era of socialism, discuss
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>>131219050
1. I build 10 farmer robots to work a field and 10 death robots to keep commies off my lawn.
2. ???
3. Commie somehow gets to live for free now.

Never going to happen.
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>>131211618
Daily reminder that there has never been a successful communist nation.
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>>131219050
The rise of automation will see a new era of fascism
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>>131219515
>communism

>state
>nation

No.
There will abolition of all oppressive hierarchies so that only the communes will survive. State apparatus will be withered away.
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>>131219658
>implying communist revolutions ever do anything other than get mocked as eventual failures or gain cult status among autistic edgy teens
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damn gommies
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>>131219658
>will be withered away
Yeah sure buddy. Keep growing the power of the state under socialism. Keep growing its power more and more and more until it magically 'withers away'. Makes perfect sense.

Communists actually believe that adding 1+1+1+1+1+1+1 to infinity will somehow give zero as a result.
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>>131221223
There have existed communist states with no government
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>>131221862
Thank you for not providing examples, genius.
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>>131221862
Provide one successful example.
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>>131222165
>>131222228
Revolutionary Catalonia

>If you didn't want to join the collective you were given some land but only as much as you could work yourself. You were not allowed to employ workers. Not only production was affected, distribution was on the basis of what people needed. In many areas money was abolished. People come to the collective store (often churches which had been turned into warehouses) and got what was available. If there were shortages rationing would be introduced to ensure that everyone got their fair share. But it was usually the case that increased production under the new system eliminated shortages.
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>>131219658

Wow. Thats exactly like Hitlrts dream, the final final endgoal. Wow i'n a Nazu now.
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>>131215083
Lol wut? The USSR economy was fucked after the 1960s from what I've read about it.
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>>131212932
Never gets old
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>>131222502
>you were given land but only as much as determined by someone else
>some entity enforcing the rule to not emply workers
>entity dictating rationing and fair share
>entity prohibiting the use of money
Sounds like a state to me.
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>>131222846
WORKERS UNIONS ARENT STATES BECAUSE UH
THEY JUST ARENT
NEO BOURGEOIS ISN'T REAL BOURGEOIS!!!!!!
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>>131222846
I said no government

>There have existed communist states with no government

and no it wasn't really a state either, it was anarchist/socialist. Until the fascists ended it
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>>131215083
Duh, that's what is bound to happen when you can no longer rely on slave labor in gulags, mass killings, and other forms of brutality to keep the economy going.
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>>131219050
That's a fair point. If all work is automated, and nobody has a job, then how will the government justify wage disparity? However I doubt this will happen for a long time. Nonetheless, Karl Marx may be right, albeit by accident.
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we are the revolution comrades!
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>>131223060
There is clearly a governor(s) in that situation.
That tribe has leaders, it's not anarchy.
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>>131223060
Government: entity that governs
Governing: to control and direct the making and administration of policy in [ ]

If there is an entity that prevents you from hiring workers then there is a government. It is a government even if it doesn't call itself a government.
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>>131222502
But Revolutionary Catalonia failed...
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>>131214181
The 639th one seemed to do it
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>>131212932
topkek
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Daily reminder the fascist organic state is the best viable revolutionary state.
See the damn light communists (or should I say consumerists)
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>>131223204
can /pol/ go one thread without unfunny shitposting?

If you hate communism, fine. You can still talk about it and why you hate it
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Reminder communism is for millennials
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>>131223151
>However I doubt this will happen for a long time.

Maybe sooner than you think. The technology is getting better at an alarming speed. A lot of people maybe losing work in the near future (some are already) and no, not just fast food workers
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>>131211618
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ
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>>131223658
Spainon why do you project so loudly despite having such shaky beliefs?
Do you have autism?
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>>131214181
kek
Some of the methods were literally Wile E. Coyote tier.
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THIS IS NOW A CAPITALISM THREAD

USA

USA

USA
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>>131214840
>half its population
wat
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>>131223883
>robots replacing the workers will eliminate scarcity
No it will cause a different set of problems that enhancing greed (capitalism/communism) will never solve.
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>>131224051
>massive amounts of regulation
>capitalism
kek
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>>131215302
Cuba is poor and periodically short on some consumer goods but the UN and other groups actually have recognized the achievements of Cuban medics.
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>>131224083
So, what I'm getting from this, is that it's time for some SEMI-AUTOMATED STRAIGHT FRUGAL FASCISM
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Wealth distribution in Capitalist America
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>>131224083
What do you think should be done then?
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>>131224051
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>>131224324
Wealth distribution once fixed by communism
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>>131224246
The UN is a subversive communist organization.
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>>131224347
show us your real flag

how much you wanna bet it's Spain?
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>>131216327
For things like that that are verifiable by outside sources, numbers usually aren't too inaccurate. In cases like North Korea where the state-provided numbers are ridiculously high and little information is available, outside sources usually try to make separate estimations.
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>>131224261
>tfw anarchist but with a hard on for anyone who kicks some commie ass
I can't wait for the eastern front, season 2 WHEN?!
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>>131224261
>be a titoist light-novel writer
>write a novel about horrors of war and its inherit class conflicts along the horrors of nationalism
>right wingers eat it up unironically
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>>131224349
god damn it I fucked up
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>>131224331
The Organic State. There must be balance. We must prevent the machines from taking up jobs while preventing ourselves from overworking when we can automate the most strenuous labors.


>>131224347
Haha you always ignore me when I prod you.
Continue doing so. You'll see more and more of the people around you waking up and leaving the bunker.
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>>131224349
>>131224552
kek I think you are subconsciously a communist anon, embrace it
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>>131224492
It's always Spain. Every thread he convinces some newfag on Snow's discord to come help him by bumping the thread.
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>>131216473
The USSR actually developed rapidly between 1922-1975ish. They just didn't care about killing a few million people in the process for the first couple decades.
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>>131224538
Hey, it's like Starship Troopers, or that Red Skull speech, leftists can sometimes be so far removed from reality that the good and decent things end up looking horrible to them.
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>>131224552
But you do realize that there is no government in a communist society?
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>>131224536
Considering our opposition is Antifa versus the working class of America, expect less of an Eastern front and more of a Luxembourg invasion.
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>>131222502
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Catalonia

>state that lasts 3 years is considered a success to communists
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>>131224785
>abstract poverty is good

Werent you supposed to be at least officially "against" profiteering before the national interests?
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>>131223109
The GULAG system shrank in the 1950s and disappeared in 1960.
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>>131224956
>abstract poverty is good
Where did you get that idea from?
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>>131224956
Profiteering is completely illegal and discouraged in a fascist state.
Capitalism does not exist in a fascist state.

>>131225148
He wants to grovel under a cruel and repressive central party.
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>>131211618

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

This implies you know what society can and will need. As believers of Tabula Rasa theory (that everyone is a blank slate when born, and also being BTFO by psychology and epigeneitc research) this makes the needs both unpredictable yet somehow moldible.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

Too bad you're dealing with humans which are hierarchical primates and not super-intelligent altruistic and rational aliens.

>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class.

Go working class! Too bad the working class don't get sinecures like academics and the ruling party.

>Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class.

Killing off the smartest and most ambitious people in a population is dysgenic. Your vision amounts to white and Jewish academics claiming to be equal with negro trashmen(lie), with cheeto dust covered NEETS driving tanks.

>When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

This is already happening, without a revolution or the help of communism. Capitalists are bringing about 3D printing with atomically precise manufacturing, (for durable goods, and housing)you are now able to own the means of production privately and cheaply. and possibly accessible to everybody (say through a library).
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>>131224627
>We must prevent the machines from taking up jobs while preventing ourselves from overworking when we can automate the most strenuous labors.
This is way too fucking vague.
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>>131211618
Do you have to be mentally retarded to join?
I have heard it is required.
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>>131225264
Most things are vague. I'm just putting a general statement/description out.
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>>131225197
If it did not, there would have been no trade between Germany and capitalist states like Sweden and Romania during the ww2.
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It's true that homosexual relations are all the rage now between communists to empathize with the LGBT community?
I'm not homo myself this is a big turn of for me.
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>>131225197

>They exports doctors, not bombs

Those fortunate enough to leave often do not wish to return because the pay is shitty. Which is why Cubans can't freely leave Cuba. They "owe" the Cuban government something by being born there and using it's services. Only fair, right? And also horribly repressive.
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>>131225393
Trade between states is different than trade within a state. Keep in mind the Soviets did that as well. Hell they took the lend lease from capitalist America.

What I meant by capitalism being illegal is it is illegal WITHIN the state in the internal market.
And yes I know about Italy's private sector but they were also kept from profiteering which essentially makes capitalism capitalism.
You cannot have capitalism without excessive profit.
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>>131211618
pathetic spanish poster
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGGaFuWXl8M
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>>131225373
What I was trying to say is that it doesn't mean anything if you don't at least give some specifics. Until then, what you are saying is retarded. Start with definitions then move on to describing this so called balance that sounds like a load of subjective bullshit at first glance.
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>>131225677
Only requirement for capitalism is that the means of production are in private hands.
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If I become a communist. Do I have to give up all my money? I have seen that famous communists do not do it. It would be different for me?
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>>131225651

meant for

>>131214953
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I'm thinking of joining your cult, but I have so many questions.
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>>131218090
The morrill tarriff chocked the south with taxes so high many went bankrupt, Im the traitor?
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>>131225912
So you're claiming that it's between private and state production?
That's fucking RETARDED
The workers are a private entity. The difference in a capitalist system is the bourgeois owns the means of production not that it is simply private.

Also profit is most certainly is part of the definition of capitalism. Otherwise there's no economy to it and it is simply a governance system which it clearly is not. Capitalism thrives off of trade where the buyer receives little, the producer receives little, and the seller receives far more than needed to fund the producer and to live.


>>131225864
Intellectual "work", maintenance, design, engineering, machine operation, etc needs to be done by humans.
Machines must only be mules, instruments, and calculators.
Otherwise we'll reach a point where Dune happens IRL OR humanity will essentially die off.
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>>131226307
Also capitalism is really defined by the seller, or the bourgeois seeking a system where he does not need to work at all and thrives off of the work of others while profiting enormously. To the point even that management of assets is something dealt with by an underling.
That is the ultimate evolution of capitalism and where it becomes the most shit and why I dislike it.

In a way techno-communism is the same thing.
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>>131225952
Of course not do what I say but not what I do is why the communal "transition" state concept exists.
They want their apple iphones and Mcdonalds AND a system where they don't need to work for their keep.
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>>131225952
all will be redistributed. the state decides what you can use of theirs
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>>131226307
I was a fool for thinking that you would actually be specific.
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>>131212932
XD XD XDX D XDXDXDXDXD
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>>131226728
The guy that decides will not have the temptation of keeping it for himself?
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>>131226875
That was fairly descriptive to me I thought. What exactly do you need expounded?
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>>131211618
reporting in comrade!
a spectre is haunting /pol/!!
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>>131227109
You know, calling communism a "spectre" kind of makes sense considering how it will never be a physical thing and it's killed tens of millions thus far.
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>>131227005
this
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>>131227109
>spectre
I agree. Communism is a spook.
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Modern day liberals say lenin
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>>131227035
First, you do realise that there's plenty of stupid people out there that only serve for manual labor, right?

When it comes to machine operation, what level of automatization would be acceptable?

Taking programming as an example, what level of abstraction would be optimal? Programming would be a huge fucking deal.

There's a lot of fucking questions, really. In essence, make a bloody essay on how much automatization is too much automatization.
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TFW MARXIST LENINIST HOXHAIST!!!!
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>>131227266
Really makes you think
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Is there anyone other based MARXIST LENINIST HOXHAISTs??!?!
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>>131227266
Still less than holocaust.
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I have been gone but I come back comrades!!?
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>>131227524
>First, you do realise that there's plenty of stupid people out there that only serve for manual labor, right?
Who said manual labor would be completely eliminated? That's part of the reason for the call for limiting what machines take over.

>When it comes to machine operation, what level of automatization would be acceptable?
Oversight of the machines and of what needs to be done to complete a job. Otherwise I don't have an answer for you so feel free to disregard.

>Taking programming as an example, what level of abstraction would be optimal? Programming would be a huge fucking deal.
Aids and calculations at most. Directive control is all on humans ideally. Machines should suggest not choose.
>There's a lot of fucking questions, really. In essence, make a bloody essay on how much automatization is too much automatization.

Hey man the 21st century is lacking solid political philosophers and major works. Get cracking
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>>131227752
HELLO ARE YOU M L H?
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>>131211618
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>>131227738
>current year
>not being market socialist
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My back hurts
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>>131227369

Ideally the socialist state will be an automatic computerized planning system with anti-corruption artificial intelligence
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>>131227833
Market socialist with Pan-European characteristics.
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>>131227752
1
>implying the holocaust isn't a conspiracy theory

2
>implying the claim isn't 12 million and is somehow higher than tens of millions
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>>131227870
>>131227933
TITOIST! You should learn the way of BASED COMRADE ENVER!
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>>131227787
>Aids and calculations at most. Directive control is all on humans ideally. Machines should suggest not choose.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH

You know nothing about programming, do you?
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>>131227884
Are you MLH!?
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Losers choose communism.
Then communism makes more losers.
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>>131227833
Yes I am a MLH too! But I am not him!
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>>131227870
>>131227933
>current year
>having the same exact economic ideal as national socialists but pretending you hate their economics

>>131228081
I am unconcerned with it. Why?
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>>131228165
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I cannot find the remote and I can't turn this little girls show, pls help me.
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>>131228256
Are you MLH? Like my based brother in this thread!!!
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>>131227738
I'am MLH there are now three !
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M-L-H! M-L-H! M-L-H! M-L-H!
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>>131228343
>>131228469
>>131228619
YeS there are three, let us collectivsies!
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>>131227266
>>131227399
Manifesto of the Communist Party

A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of communism. All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Pope and Tsar, Metternich and Guizot, French Radicals and German police-spies.

Where is the party in opposition that has not been decried as communistic by its opponents in power? Where is the opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of communism, against the more advanced opposition parties, as well as against its reactionary adversaries?

Two things result from this fact:

I. Communism is already acknowledged by all European powers to be itself a power.

II. It is high time that Communists should openly, in the face of the whole world, publish their views, their aims, their tendencies, and meet this nursery tale of the Spectre of Communism with a manifesto of the party itself.

To this end, Communists of various nationalities have assembled in London and sketched the following manifesto, to be published in the English, French, German, Italian, Flemish and Danish
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>>131228627
wHy are the Japan girls so young!
I have Japan picture!
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>>131228701
Hello! There are currently three MLH bros! In this thread! Are you fourth!?
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>>131228689
Ooh oooh me too me too!
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>>131228829
I think he is Revisionist!
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>>131228829
>>131228964
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>>131228914
>peace, justice, equality
and don't forget poverty and starvation
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>>131228914
Yes! Collectivse! Let's do it!
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>>131229065
says the kiddo flying the confederate flag.... whew lad... the irony
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>>131229054
Yes we're good friends! Japan!
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>>131229125
Abrham lincoln was MLH!
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nature is a capitalist. the strong lion eats the weak gazelle. the lion that is too weak to attack, simply starves. this is the way of nature.

humans have evolved beyond the boundaries of achievement of other animal species in many ways, yes. i am proud to call myself a human. however, we have let the hubris of our might devolve us in other ways. the human that is too weak to attack... receives much of the bounty of his stronger compatriots? fucking sickening. fucking unnatural. fucking poor planning.

if we are to subsidize weakness, we are to commend it. communism, whether inadvertently or otherwise, convinces its followers to pay a sort of offering to the weak, as if the weak are gods to be given tribute to. this system repulses me as a woman who feels a kinship with what is natural, because communism is not natural, and to it i will pay no tribute.

all that being said, i must mention that most advocates for communism or heavy use of socialist programs are weak people. many of these people are in their natural state very strong and beautiful. however, like a poison these ideals sap not only the intellect out of these once great people, but also their outward beauty. anyone who has seen a feminist knows the phenomenon i'm referring to.
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>>131227752
>nearly 100 million killed by Communism
>6 million killed by Holocaust
Who taught you how to count?
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Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader.

>Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.
>Individual identity, the group, the leader and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become >increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower's mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused--as that person's involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens.
>Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".
>Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.
>Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. >A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.
>Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.
>A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor.
>Increasing isolation from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader.
>Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.
>Former followers are at best-considered negative or worse evil and under bad influences. They can not be trusted and personal contact is avoided.
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>>131229125
Abraham Lincoln was MLH!
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>>131229125
So you don't disagree? Communism causes poverty and starvation.
Also the south ate good due to confederate money until you know the whole north thing, anyways thanks for your concern.
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>>131229434
you used to be ancap... what happened my child?
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>>131229501
Communism cause revisionism ! Only MLH make true Communis,!
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>>131229747
>>131229525
Oops that was for you confederate!
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Help Laygo show is on and I cannot find remote!
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>>131229483
ENVER WAS BEST LEADER!
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M-L-H? Yes!
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If communists are all about the people why do they always idolize their leaders?
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>>131230168
Grrr I am Tito boy! Silly m-l h you are dumb! Tito will annex you! Grrr!
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>enter thread
>full of communist flags
What a time to be alive!
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>>131230234
Because based ENVER was based!
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>>131230296
BE GONE WITH YOU TITOIST THE SPIRIT OF BASED COMRADE ENVER WILL VANQUISH YOU AND RETURN YOU TO YOUR TITOIST SUB HUMAN JEW HELL!
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>>131230177
Communist memes are so bad. you can't come up with anything original
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>>131230234
you just made them have a brain aneurysm kek
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>>131230350
Are you MLH? If not you are not real communist guevarist revisionist TITOIST!
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>>131230491
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>>131230502
You forget ENVER!
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>>131230457
No, I am being sent back to my degenerate jew hell! No ENVER is to powerful for titio!
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>>131230491
>>131230502
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>>131230830
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Afvt0o3yE

Will you fight in the revolution, bros?
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>>131230932
Shit
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Why you use communists symbols if real communism never happened?
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>>131230964
Only if it MLH!
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>>131231017
They are LARPERS unlike us MLH!
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>>131231017
Next best thing on /pol/, classcuck
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>>131230964
the feels
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>>131231095
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>>131230583
Is that a foreskin loli???
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>>131231017
never real happened kekistani
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>>131231170
Fells are for gays!
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>>131230583
Is that a foreskin loli????
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>>131231244
That is a based MLH comrade! And mascot of MLH!
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>>131231288
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>they think the Hoaxist memer is on their side
Glorious.
Absolutely glorious.
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Fucking commies
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>>131231471
>In a capitalist system, automation means layoffs, unemployment, and even greater profits for the owner of the factory
>In a socialist system, automation means vacation for the workers who own the factory
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>>131231471
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>>131231486
one of us! one of us!
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>>131231618
make like a tree and leaf this thread... the day of the rake is coming!@!
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I can't wait to meet you neo-fascists in the streets when the violence begins
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>>131231618
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>>131231486
I am not on anyone side except for based ENVERs! All will fear the HOXHAIST!
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>>131231794
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>>131231794
Are you MLH!?
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>>131231806
I'm not even sure what you're trying to prove desu
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>>131231882
back to your bunker!! the time is nigh!!!
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>>131231806
you seem like one of the leaders of these communist groups or something, are you leading this army? Please dont take over /pol/!!! :(
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what in the shit is MLH
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>>131232010
it's our board now!!
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>>131231967
I AM THE VANGUARD OF M-L-H! I AM THE ONE WHO WATCHES OVER THE /pol/ AND SWOOPS DOWN BTFOING THE REVISIONIST! I AM THE VANGUARD OF MLH, SO FEAR ME REVISIONIST THE DAY IS COMING ENVER IS COMING FOR YOU!
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>>131232010
I am the leader of the based MLH Vanguard!
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>>131232230
get this hothead out of here
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What the fuck happened to this thread
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>>131232332
MLH HAPPENED REVISIONIST!
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>>131211618
/helicopter ride general/
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>>131231999
>>131232313
Dumb Eurocommunist this now a HOXHAIST THREAD!
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>>131211618
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>>131232230
Just got a serious case of douche chills
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>>131232108
it is the immortal science of MARXISM-LENINISM-HOXHAISM!
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>>131232332
we are ready to begin collectivization of this board anon!
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>>131212932
First bost spurdo bost :DDDDDD
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>>131232425
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>>131232456
You are gay counter revolutionary fascist be scared!
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>>131232456
says the kiddo cringy enough to post with the "fascist" flag.... whew lad.. the irony
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Kill all the heterosexual jews desu
NazBols unite
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>>131232544
good sign me up

seize the memes of production
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>>131232705
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>>131232662
No :^)
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>>131232692
NazBolshevism are better then revisionist but still revisionist!
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>>131211618
sage
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>>131232845
DO NOT MAKE ME SUMMON HOXHA!
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>>131232869
bump
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>>131232916
Mlh
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>>131232869
too many hammers and sickles of the working class in here tonight kiddo

bump!
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>>131232674
>he thinks communism isnt the ultimate cringe
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>>131233036
*Revisionism
I have fixed that for you
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>>131232692
>t (((ginsburg))) fan
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>>131232994
The MLH VANGUARD
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>>131232885
Stop talking about it and be about it bitch nigga
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>>131214553
Because that's not what they're here for, they're here for agitprop, which is the commie way of saying "manipulate people until they agree with me or are too uncomfortable to disagree".
Which is exactly what we come here to get away from with leftists which is why it doesn't work.
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>>131233198
I will not waste summoning Hohaxa on you fascist!
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>>131232591
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>>131233299
Yea cause you can't cause your a homo
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>>131233351
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>>131233439
STOP I AM NOT HOMOXESCIEUAL REVISIONISTS ARE HOMSEXUALS STOP STOP STOP! FEAR ME FASCIST!
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>>131211618
Fuck off you faggot.
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good to see so many communist flags ITT desu
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>>131214953
Here's your state offered Cuban healthcare, gomrade.
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>>131234037
Titoists are ARE GAY!
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>>131232730
seize the means of reproduction for the working class man and not for the cold hearted bilionaire
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>>131233919
>deah to commnies
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fucking sucks that communists organizations are full of mentally ill faggots and feminist freaks.

otherwise id probably be communist
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>>131234639
There are plenty that aren't. I hate those faggots too, a lot of people do both left wing and right
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>>131234961
Can you name a few? IWW seems pretty interesting.
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>>131235060
MLH VANGAURD BABY!
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>>131215491
holy shit you guys are so not funny
le communist doggo xDDD I'm 14 xDDDD
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>>131216408
No you literally aren't though. Actually, physically speaking, "le basic human empathy" won't prevent people from fucking starving if you're a retard with retarded system. If you can't produce anything fuck off and die.
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>>131235919

communist doggo?
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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