Anyone want to have a debate about socialism.

>>131210951
>1) Define what socialism is!

Ownership of the means of production by the workers.

>2) Define what metrics are you using to measure a system's success.

Number of dead capitalists.

>3) Present an argument why socialist is the best system.

no other system is so dedicated to killing disgusting human filth aka capitalists.

>>131210951
No one here unironically thinks socialism is a good thing, and those that do will not be willing to debate you because anyone with a keyboard and at least the basic mental skills of a toddler can wipe the floor with them. It's a failed system that's only held on by literal trust fund retards.

>>131211144
>no other system is so dedicated to killing disusting human filth aka capitalists

What does this have to do with socialism? Surely any other kind of system could arrange executions of capitalists as well.

>>131210951
1. System based on a capitalist economic structure that has a democratic state controlling some aspects of it, not all.

2. Index of failed states
http://fundforpeace.org/fsi/

3. It merges the advantages from capitalism (competition, innovation, nation profit etc) and communism (state must accomplish what people wills, also take care of social issues) Infrastructure's balance between the public and the private is perfect. Best system.

>>131212236
>System based on a capitalist economic structure that has a democratic state controlling some aspects of it, not all.

That's state capitalism, not socialism.

>>131210951

>1) Define what socialism is!
A system that doesn't work
>2) Define what metrics are you using to measure a system's success.
Countries that are socialist
>3) Present an argument why socialist is the best system.
Best? Socialism is the best system that doesn't work

>>131212433

Well it could be. The thing is that property and means of production are planned and organized in a way that economy and social life are weighted. Not only economy as you're saying with your liberal system.

Here i'm kinda still a person, and not a plain consumer. I pay taxes, but i get in exchange infrastructure and social services (good asf education, healthcare, etc)
Countries like USA are doing reforms in a socialist way, but they just don't want to call them so because of my "archenemy communism"

>>131212433

Well, it might be, the thing is that property and means of production are organized and administrated in a way that economy and social life are weighted. Not purely economical, like what you are saying with this liberal capitalist system.

I pay taxes, but in exchange I get good asf infrastructure, healthcare, education etc. And here in my country i'm still a person, not a plain consumer. USA is taking reforms with a socialist approach because they know it just works. They don't call it so because of my "archenemy communism", but in the end is the best option.

>>131213850
What about money? In the system you're proposing, would a person earn money the same way as they would in a capitalist system, or is there universal basic income (along with food and housing)?