>mfw atheist think thoughts come and go from nowhere/nothing

>>131198300
atheists don't believe in God because they don't want to believe in God because they're degenerates

stop making this thread you faggot

>>131198956
It ALWAYS comes down to an excuse for degeneracy.

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>>131199035
>stop making fun of atheists
..no.

>>131198300
Saged. You know the rules, faggot.

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>>131198300
why would i waste any of my precious hours worshiping anything other than myself?
ill be a good person without wasting that thought energy you were talking about on Theism.
fucking pathetic kids
it literally doesnt make sense to devote a single thought to it, because in all religions ya pretty much fine if ya decent
and if not why the fuck would i want to associate myself with mental illness?

The existence of god is implausible.
Justifying the lack of purpose in your life with religion is pure escapism.
I'm ok with people using it as a coping mechanism but it just doesn't sit right with me personally.

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>>131199489
>mfw the same shills who work for brock probably made this image

>>131199489
>and if not why the fuck would i want to associate myself with mental illness?
You mean atheism? The most mentally illness prone group of people(such as suicide, depression, transgender, gay, pedophile, ect) per capita?
I agree stay FAAAAR away from that shithole.

>>131198956

and theists only believe in god, because they're dishonest cowards afraid of the fact that they're just a rotting piece of meat that is eventually going to be worm food.

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>>131199674
>Justifying the lack of purpose in your life with religion is pure escapism
Wrong, atheism is escapism. It encourages nihilism to the highest degree because you aren't judged, you dont matter. By. Default.

>>131200020
How do you know that God will judge you? Isn't he beyond our comprehension? How do we know anything about God?

>>131200414
Simple, we have Judgment ourselves.
Animals as well. There is a distinction between what grows and what is destroyed or stagnated in this world.

>>131199919
right
also theism
agnostic is literally the only decent thing to identify as, if you absolutely must
anything else is w/e the word is for the opposite of humble

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>>131200695
But anon.. Did the theist build and grow society while the atheist and agnostic(fags) buttfucked until they got invaded?
If theist are so bad how come they took the reigns of the earth for so long and continue to this day while societies once great becoming gradually atheist inact the very policies that lead to the destruction of rome?
Seem likes theres a clear linkage between faith and a strong society.

>>131200687
If we can ascertain the attributes of God by the parts of its sum. Isn't God also evil because it exists. Which goes contrary to Christian doctrine.
Your beliefs would make sense if you're not a Christian.

>>131198300
Tides go in

Tides go out

Atheists can't explain this.

>>131198300
Post more Marios

>>131200942
What?
Pretty sure a lot of the founding fathers of this great country were not religious. A lot of the structure we have today came from the greeks, who were also not religious
>took the reigns of the earth for so long...
lolololol
i didnt come to this board for silly bedtime stories nigger. Broad generalizations like that are toxic and demote critical thinking
and maybe not most, but a good portion of people, especially in the south, who go to church every sunday and claim to be religious are fucking douches. I say this from experience
Explaining the unknown with bullshit demotes critical thinking, regardless of the scale

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>>131198300
Would you FUCK OFF op? You post this shit with the same pic over and over every fucking day. Fuck dude you need a life. I swear I'll randomly come check /pol/ during breaks and I'll see this shit posted every single time.

>mfw OP is in no position to tell anyone to take any type of pill.
>mfw if being religious means I'm like the OP then I'd rather be the opposite.
>mfw op fucks off

>>131201043
You are holding god to human standard. A perfect universe can not exist without destruction.
You must have evil for there to be good otherwise there couldn't be judgement in the first place..
There is no making omelettes without breaking eggs.

>>131201340
>fathers of this great country were not religious
Majority were deists, none atheists.

>>131201544
aka, agnostic as far as my understanding of the word goes
atheism is cancer
theism is cancer
only a sith deals in absolutes

>>131201154
moon pulls the tide with gravity
of course, you're going to argue this all way back to big bang and point this as an inadequacy of atheism/materialism.
the problem with materialism is that we simply don't know yet. it doesn't mean that materialism is invalid, just that we cant explain it. yet.
when the origin of university is solved through science, then theism will be either BTFO or confirmed.

>>131201663
Deism is absolute belief in a higher power(which they had), but unsure or unwilling to think that higher power directly influences the world, such as talking to man directly.

Agnosticism is on the fence between atheism(no belief in a higher power, and theism/deism(belief in a higher power.

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>Mfw people still use grade school tier logic and insults regarding eachothers personal spiritual beliefs instead of practicing them and being decent to each other

>>131201822
Ah, I see.
But this seems like semantics. My point that religious hasnt been the driving force for todays civilization still stands
The beginning of civilization? Yea, religion was invaluable
After awhile tho, nah.

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>>131198300

I'm a non-believer, but I don't consider myself an Atheist (simply because American cunts have made Atheism into a fedora-tipping cuck club).

It's not that I acknowledge or disagree with any form of God - I just don't care. I live my life in the best way I can. If by the time that I die it turns out that I was wrong about everything, I figure my good deeds will be enough.

If it isn't - I don't really want to appease a God that has no mercy.

Pretty simple, really.

>>131202006
>After awhile tho, nah.
The book is infallible. It teaches all you need to know to guide a flock.

>>131202041
On point duder.

>>131201870
>mfw people would rather to live in ignorance rather than debating with each others and learning more about the reality.

>>131202223
what are you talking about

>>131198300
>OP thinks that there is some sort of storage area where thoughts exist before we think them and go back to after we are done thinking them.
>OP thinks all of reality is nothing
>OP thinks thoughts are independent of the thing thinking them, like waves being independent of the ocean.
>OP thinks he knows the mind of god
stop being a fagot OP, you're shitting up the board.

>>131198300
>I'm too ignorant to know STEM
>I literally don't know what I don't know.
>I project these assumptions on to others.
God-Botherers everybody.

>>131202307
Read the bible, its more than just "God is real" is what humanity has struggled through time after time to get here. You learn about man more than you will ever learn about God through it.

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>>131198300

>mfw atheist think thoughts come and go from nowhere/nothing in life for no reason

Guess why guys with dead brain is living vegetables? Cuz their brain is ded m9, and when its happens thoughts dont come anymore, your existence comes to end m9.

>mfw atheist believe in "nothing
>atheist believe
>Faith is the recognition of something as true regardless of factual or logical justification, mainly because of the very nature of the subject's relationship to the object of faith

Yeah i believe that tomorrow will be nice weather, basing on weather forecast and my own expierence, not some old shitty books.

>thoughts are energy
>can not be created or destroyed

My sides, go put your fingers in power socket and see what gonna happen.

>mfw atheist STILL don't understand God

mfw some retards still belive in some old jewish fairytales

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>>131202351
>he thinks thoughts comes from "nothing"
>he thinks "nothing" it real

>>131202473
>thought depends on brain
>mistunderstanding the word thought being useid in this context
Anon. What seperates life from the inaminate is the back is is animate and is aware, moves, thinks.

Humans having a more complicated form of it than animals doesn't mean we alone poses it.

whatever gods ye pray to can't save yer arses from a full broadside of me cannons

>>131202435
Ive read it bud. A lot of it is reinforcing fundamentals of a decent society, yes.
calling it infallible is retarded, when in it is says men are not perfect and it was written by man
>nb4 but it says its infallible
that part was also written by man
I think its truer than some would think, and less true than others would think
IMO, its a solid manifestation of the psychology of the people of that time period, with fundamental exercises of human decency that transcends time
However, its a fucking book that people read then took as absolute fact.
Thats mental illness

>>131202041
>doesn't care about the very thing he expects mercy for

>>131201434
So, God commit evil deeds to get more good? Why not make it all good? Intelligent design LUL

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>>131202833

If good deeds aren't enough to warrant mercy, then I don't care about any god. Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp?

>>131202843
Wrong, the evil deed and the good can not exist without each other much like how there is no black without white.

You will see what is good, it is self evident. What holds your society back?
Even a wolf knows not to snap the neck of its child but not to raise the cub of an outsider's.

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>>131202296
>mfw you're delusional enough to be convinced you know and understand "reality" as opposed to accepting that nobody truly knows gods name.
>mfw because of this delusion you are incapable of having meaningful enlightening discussions with your peers because instead of sharing ideas you're defending your precious core beliefs from an "I'm right you're wrong lalala can't hear you" stance

>>131202623

>Unconsciousness may occur as the result of traumatic brain injury, brain hypoxia (e.g., due to a brain infarction or cardiac arrest), severe poisoning with drugs that depress the activity of the central nervous system (e.g., alcohol and other hypnotic or sedative drugs), severe fatigue, anaesthesia, and other causes.
>go put your fingers in power socket and see what gonna happen.

Go anon, you really should experienced it with yourself.

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>>131203335
>we don't know lets never try to talk about it ever again
how to spot the person who thinks thinking is a headache.

>>131203424
Suicide is a sin.

>>131203473
On the contrary, I think not knowing for sure is pretty beautiful and that discussing possible realities is fun and engaging. I just think folks who "KNOW THE TRUE LORD" are fucking impossible to speak with because they refuse to budge for the sake of perspective. You Could argue that people who cling desperately to a holy book are the ones who get a headache thinking. The easy to digest answers are all right there for you! Heaven is waiting!

>>131203537

Its only 110V, its not gonna kill ya, u just loose your consciousness, GUESS WHY? Ahahahah.

>>131202501
>God creates thoughts.
God thinks a lot about porn then doesn't he, the fucking degenerate

>>131203823
Then i am not dead.
You only go to heaven when you die in case you didn't get the memo.

>>131203075
do you even realize your contradiction

>>131203993

Ere, ill help ya.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOCaacO8wus

>>131204067
Enlighten us

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>>131204166
>a kike youtube video
nigga i aint clicking that shit

>>131204240
he admitted God exists.

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>>131204067

Please, do elaborate.

>>131204355

Not true. You need to learn to differentiate between a god and God.

>>131204442
>that flag
you can remove it an reveal your star of david now.

>>131204504

I'm sorry to disappoint you, burger.

>>131204558
I'm even MORE disappointed, actually

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>>131204657

Good thing my life doesn't revolve around pleasing random Americans on the internet, then.

>>131204373
if you want mercy for the very thing you claim to not care about, then you ought to

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Do you believe in Odin? Ra?

No? Well, I guess you're an atheist just like me.

>>131198300
Holy fuck americans are clowns

>>131204762
It clearly does. that's why you hide your nature.

>>131204284

>a kike
>said guy worshiping to a dead jew and jewish fairy tales

Lol, try harder m9.

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>>131204765

I don't think you understand. Like I said - if it turns out that I am wrong, and there actually is a god (lower case), then my good deeds better be enough to warrant a "pardon" for not being a devoted Christian. If it isn't, then why would I care to begin with?

It's a win/win situation on my end.

>>131204907
only fairy tale is the lie of "no thing" pushed by the church of atheism.

God is proven to exist.

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>>131198300
>He isn't Agnostic

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>>131204877

I hide nothing. If anything I embrace who I am with this flag. I also had no problem revealing my Geo-Flag upon request.

You're grasping at straws.

>>131204834
im surprise sweden even posts with their flag anymore

>>131204442
>You need to learn to differentiate between a god and God.
holy shitty arguments batman
You better have a reputable citation other than your ASS nigger

>>131204919
>my good deeds better be enough to warrant a "pardon"
nope. that's a sinful mentality.

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>>131205073

Or else you'll do what? Write something mean about me on an anonymous board? Come on, dude.. You're better than that.

>>131198300
Stop spamming the same damn post every day, fucking loser.

>>131205069
I'm surprised americans are capable of hitting the right keys with their fat fingers
>Talk shit
>47% and the number is rapidly becoming lawer

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>>131205153

If you say so. That leaves me with the "not caring" part. I lose nothing from not being religious. You on the other hand lose everything from the risk of being wrong.

>>131205249
lower*

>>131205221
>be atheist
>try to deny God
>can't
>Try to use God/god to obscure
>can't
>can't admit you believe in nothing because you've been BTFO
>still have to admit there is a God
>haggling God like a jewish faggot to get into heaven.
nope.

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>>131205035

So you dont deny that fact that jews is lead your life?
Lol this is just too much.

>>131205293
You lose your integrity. Look at your arguments.

No one will love you for pushing this >>131205412 into the world. You will be destroyed. You are evil.

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>>131205412
>>131205482

This is the best you have to throw at me?

>>131205221
Ill disregard your awful childish argument and consider you the loser as the spectator, simple. Thats the purpose of argument, your infront of an audience and trying to prve your logic you havent even come close.
You can live in lala land forever though. Your damnation isnt my buisness. If you cant see why entitlement (your thought process) is an incarnation of sin you are lost.

>>131205538
You've been utterly destroyed.

>God exists
>can't deny him
>lol I just don't care
Your religion is toast. What are you going to do? Go around spouting "I don't care?"

>>131205538
Day of the rock.

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>>131205594
>If you cant see why entitlement (your thought process) is an incarnation of sin you are lost.
BTFO

>>131198300
>pretending you know instead of just acknowledging that you don't

haha foolish godshit, self-delusion is for cucks!

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>>131205594
I explained why I am not religious. You were expecting to convert me by acting like a cunt? By using circular arguments?

Nothing you say will impact the way I view the World. As an American your opinion matters even less.

>>131205628
I never acknowledged a god (or your God).

I have explained in two previous posts how it works, but you are ignoring it on purpose. Nothing I say will ever change your conviction (and that was never my intention either), so why do you care about what I do or don't believe?

Implying that a non-belief is a religion is a paradox in itself, but I guess you are too blind to see it.

>>131205701
Come at me, faggot.

>>131205946
Everyone knows inherently. Except niggers because they are beasts of the field, and not people.

>>131206025
>I don't care about God
Your words.

Op, what will you do if materialism proves that God doesn't exist? Inb4 it won't.

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>>131206106

Since you're too retarded to read, I'll give you a picture instead.

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>>131206124
It won't. The argument against God for YEARS has been "It's not true, it's just not falsifiable."

Well I have falsified atheism, and therefor materialism by proving existence of the infinite, and disproving "nothing" as a lie.

God is real.
Atheism/nothing is not.
Materialism is a Jewish trick to make you believe infinite resources are finite.

>The entire kike deception is DEAD

>>131206252
>I don't care about [...] God
Come again?

>>131204919
>shitposting all day with a nazi flag and roleplaying as a nazi
>'good deeds'

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>>131204919
Hedging your bets. You are a fucking coward.

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>>131206329

Lower case. Stay in school.

Let's turn the tables and ask if you believe in Zeus or Thor or Odin? You don't? Well, guess you're an Atheist then.

Idiot.

>>131206344
Sure is summer.

>>131206470
Of course I do.

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>>131206387

And you care, because..?

>>131206521
>entitled mentality
>bed hedging with God
you care deeply and you're embodying deception

>>131206470
>hurrr /pol/ is nazi
yes, it is summer

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>>131206503

Heh, then you're a sinner.

Exodus 20:3

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>>131206106
>Calling others 'Kikes'
>Forgets Jesus was an observant Jew
>"You [Gentiles] worship what you do not know; we [Jews] know what we [Jews] worship, for salvation is of the Jews” (John 4:22).

>Calling others Niggers
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”
>Galatians 3:28

Friendly reminder that you can't insult others Christfag, apologize or your Kike God will send you to hell to get raped by demons

I can post more verses if you like

>>131206788
I don't worship them. We killed everyone who worshipped those Gods.

They're simply Gods.

I bet you thought you were clever...

>>131206896
Niggers aren't people.

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>>131206968

Keep grasping at straws, dude.. You can't be more than a teenager judging from how you write and try to argue.

It's not that I am holding the age against you, it just shows that you haven't really experienced much of the World and are merely the result of intellectual inbreeding.

>>131207143
>I don't care about God
>believes in God
>scared of God
>tries to do "good deeds" to be saved
>cites scripture that confirms the existence of other Gods
>LARPs even harder
that absolute fucking state of you

I don't believe in God because there's no good evidence to do so. That's it. Faith isn't good enough. Why everyone drags fedoras and shitflinging into this discussion is beyond me.

>>131207500
>there's no good evidence
you're thinking, aren't you?

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you still can be saved come to orthodoxy
daily reminder that it is end of the times


soon...

>>131207597

Don't hit me with some esoteric nonsense about god being the wind or a child's smile. Philosophy and arguments drawn from pure rationalism aren't empirical evidence from which we draw scientific conclusions about our world. If God is a meaningful actor who can effect the physical world than he is subject to the same scrutiny that any other physical thing is.

>>131207857
Your thoughts are energy anon. Does energy have a creation or destruction?

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>>131207041
>Niggers aren't people

James 2:5
Listen, my dear brothers and sisters: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him?

John 13:34
"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another."

I said apologize, you can't use the word 'nigger.' It's hateful and you're being a judge with evil thoughts (James 2:4).

Fortunately, I can say whatever I want because I'm not a book slave, but you're not. Grovel for forgiveness, faggot

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>>131207286

Last reply to you, troll.

I don't care about any god (or your Jewish God).
I don't believe in any god (or your Jewish God).
I am not scared of any god (or your Jewish God).
I do good deeds to be a better National Socialist. To be an example for my son to follow.
I cite scripture to call you on your blasphemy, which I find amusing. Also, reading scripture is the only way I can know about the religions I'm arguing against.
LARP is a non-argument.

Have a good evening, troll. You made me reply, so I'll give you a solid 5/7 for the effort.

>>131208094
>>131208092
shh. I'm having a conversation with >>131207916


Sit down and watch

>>131207916

Matter cannot be created or destroyed. Thoughts are the product of electric synapses in the brain which is a product of millions of years of evolution.

No, I don't know if the universe always existed or had a beginning, or perhaps existed in a state foreign to what we understand the universe to be.

>>131208155
>Thoughts are the product of electric synapses in the brain
from matter
>which is a product of millions of years of evolution.
from where?

Christcucks think "redpilled" extends to believing in an invisible man in the sky. Lmfao

>>131208222

Evolution of biological matter is the result of natural selection, which is a natural process without a guiding hand.

>>131208155
>I don't know if the universe always existed or had a beginning
Yes you do!

"Nothing" isn't possible, ergo everything already existed. AKA it's eternal. Infinite. God created the world for you with a thought. Nothing in the scripture says anything about the universe. That exists from the "nothing" the atheist cult invented to deceive.

>>131208396
from WHERE

>>131208438
>>131208479
Still waiting on that apology Christfag

>>131208584
shut the fuck up nigger. get hanged

>what are quarks
Typical uneducated christcucks. Go worship your Jew god Yahweh. You and your muzzie pals.

>>131208764
another measure of the infinite. Evidence of God

Y'all niggas really need to try this thing called "Not giving a fuck".

>>131208479

I don't know. Organic molecules (rudimentary life) are made from inorganic compounds, which I assume to have either always existed or came from the big bang which may not have been a creation but a change of state. Asking 'from where/who dun it' can be asked ad nauseum all the way up the chain to God himself.

>>131208438

The universe being eternal or not has many steps from reaching a conclusion that a sentient being willed it into existence via magic/miracles/works. That's a gargantuan leap.

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>>131208844
It starts with not replying.

But you're paid to. Too bad your dogma of "nothing" has been pulled from under you like a rug and Atheism is DEAD. It's a long road for you.

>>131208834

Anything can be evidence of God if you're willing to believe hard enough. My grandmother believes rainbows are blessing hand crafted by God individually but that's demonstrably false.

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>>131208630
Kek. You're not much of a Christian

>>131208092
Niggers are not people, they are animals. Niggers can not even think like man. A lot of people mistake the comandament about adultry, its actually telling you to keep your genes pure. Aka NO NIGGERS.

Nothing you posted proved him wrong or applies to niggers.

>>131208946
Dude what?

>>131208897
>'from where/who dun it' can be asked ad nauseum all the way up the chain to God himself.
that is the point.

There exists 2 paths before you.

1: atheism the doctrine of 'nothing'. that is false. I have proven this.

2: the infinite and eternal God who created the world man and everything in it because he loves us.

>>131209060
Again. Niggers aren't people. Your scripture focuses on real human beings who can be christian. Not dogs.

Let a nigger beg before me with his face on the ground and I might forgive him.

>>131209076
>>131209189
Almost got me with this bait

>>131209275
adulteration is to make a substance impure by mixing.

Fucking niggers is adultery because your kids come out fucked up

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>>131208897
>I don't know.
>i-it just became organic for NO REASON FROM NO KNOWN SOURCE AKA FROM NOTHING
>the big *bbraaaaaaaaaaaaaaap*
Its time to accept God anon.
Aka the infinite thoughts you are fragmented from

>>131209110

1:You have not proven a thing. You simply don't like the idea of absence of matter or empty space, which is bizarre since we can observe empty space in molecules today. If you actually tried to present your argument to any academic it would not be near as successful as you believe it would be.

2: Citation needed Citation needed Citation needed

>>131209383
>You simply don't like the idea of absence of matter or empty space
doesn't exist

>we can observe empty space in molecules today.
yeah it makes viscosity. idioit

>>131209383
>implying the space is empty
The ignorance of this nigger
There are atoms and shit in that space.

>>131209383
I need no citations for proof of the infinite.

Count the details of a single leaf and you will never stop. the smallest substance you find is made up of even smaller substances.

It is self evident. All men know God in their hearts. Evil men hide.

"Nothing" is a fraudulent concoction. The opposite of creation is destruction. Not nothing. The opposite of good is evil. Not nothing.

Nothing is an atheist lie. An atheist religion. A false one.

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>>131209348
>Fucking niggers is adultery because your kids come out fucked up
Your mom must've been blacked then

You can't swear either. No 'fuck' for you
>Ephesians 4:29
Don’t use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them.

>>131198300
>>131198956
So what, believe in your god, whom you adopted from the kikes? A religion Made for the kikes, about the kikes, and lists the kikes as being the chosen race.

Face it, we got caught up in a reformist movement for a haughty, backwards religion. And Europe has had to suffer from it ever since.

>>131209369

You are regressing into an argument from incredulity. The Big Bang is a theory for a reason. Attacking it with fart jokes is not an argument.

>>131209444

Atoms are mostly empty space. Read a chemistry book this is discussed in the first chapter of any book written after the 1980's.

>>131209627

>I don't need evidence!

And this is why you don't really have an argument.

>>131209683
Your language is foul. Lies and deception.

You're a fucking nigger kike, and I hope I help people never become a faggot like you. Kill yourself.

>>131209764
A theory based on nothing, which I have proven does not exist.

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>>131198300
you actually changed the text based on what i said in the previous thread that died after 2 comments.

>mfw theist STILL don't understand atheism

>>131209854
Kek. Stay mad bookslave. Nice bait thread

>>131209903

Please present your groundbreaking rhetorical circular reasoning to the academic world and enlighten those silly astrophysicists with your strength of faith alone.

>>131210059
>mfw the desperate arguments have now become
>you dont understand
and
>read a book
you can't espouse any of your deception without your "nothing" can you?

You are like a wolf with no teeth

>>131210156
I have destroyed the foundation on which you operate your deception.

Your cult of nothing has been summarily defeated. Your foundation of sand was destined to collapse anyway.

God is great.

>>131209764
>thinks thoughts came from nothing randomly
>misinterpret the bible
if what you say is the universe came from a source, you then disregard the possibilities the source is an infinite eternal one... like... God?
*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*

>>131210059
It sure is easy to argue when im not making any claims.

Well, i did claim that you dont understand atheism and you neatly proved my point.

I feel sorry for your fellow countrymen for having you bringing down the average IQ.

>>131210059
That's delusional americans for you.

>atheists believe nothing happens after you die
>atheists BELIEVE
LOL fucking hypocrites

>>131210481
>It sure is easy to argue when im not making any claims.
Nothing could be easier. Your tangible fear has put God in a position of supreme authority and no one can challenge me without their "nothing"

>>131210255

Much like every other 'atheism btfo' thread you have done nothing but talked out of your ass, made yourself up to look like a fool, and somehow reached the conclusion that you have succeeded in anything other than wasting my time. You are the pigeon that has shit on the chess board. Your god is a false one and you have not provided a shred of evidence for your beliefs.

>>131210664
Sorry, fool. Your cult is without its suppositions.

The idea of nothing from which the theories of lies sprang from has been eradicated from this world.

The atheist belief system has been exposed to its core. You can keep LARPing like you're not exposed.

I'm an athiest
but I beleive in living for a greater purpose than my life, otherwise I'm just an advanced animal
many athiests are just degenerates and need to be eradicated though
they view no god as an excuse to just be animalistic, selfish, only concerned with material gain

>>131210618
What is this BS about "nothing"? Is that all you can say?

>God exists and everyone knows it
>Kikes invent a cult around "nothing"
>use this to create many theories that all start from nothing.
>all so they don't have to use the word "God"
>it fails
>"Nothing" is proven to be a lie.
>they LARP even harder.

>>131210059
>>131210481
You are talking to yourself. Dont you feel silly?
>come into fresh thread
>make argument that doesnt relate to the thread or current augments
>implying you arent derailing
Brapbrap..BRAAAAAAAP

>>131210769

The irony isn't lost on me that you accuse me of cultism while claiming the big bang is merely empty rhetoric and spouting about your undying faith to an imaginary friend. Go pray about you simpleton.

>>131211007

>God exists and everyone knows it

Prove it. Provide evidence for your claim. Do more than attack big scary scientific conclusions you don't understand. Quit blaming your stupidity on the atheist Illuminati.

>>131211073
the quote was a mislick but what i originally said has great relevancy because this is not the first thread OP has made.

Now look who is derailing, i dont mind tho, not my thread.

>>131210996
If it is not a "thing" it doesnt exist or possibly exist. The universe is made of things (matter, energy, atoms, ect) and the absence of things hasnt been proven because it(tthe concept of "nothing") cant exist in a material realm

>>131211078
>imaginary friend
>nerfs God in an argument
>LARPs as a scientist near me

>>131211231
I already proved it. An infinite universe exists, and I demonstrated it.

Your nothing is a lie. God exists.

>>131198300
Legit question...if the universe fissioned off of another universe and we're part of an indescribably large multiverse, where did that multiverse come from? At some point it wasn't there and then it was. How did so much something come out of a state in which there was literally nothing?

>>131211549
>this is your brain on atheism

>>131211337
and how is "nothing" relevant in this conversation other than being a part of the strawman OP is trying to make which i pointed out in the first post i made that you thought was "derailing".

>>131211627
"Nothing" is the mechanism on which the atheist lie is predicated. Pay attention. Without "Nothing" There is no atheism.

They claim God isn't falsifiable.

Well I falsified atheism. It's over. Dead religion.

>>131211613
Nuh-uh. It's my question for the atheists in the thread, not the OP. I should have been clearer.

>>131211231
If God is infinite, eternal and omnipresence and infinite (math) eternal (energy) and omnipresence(matter and also energy ect) are proven concepts its not wild speculation to make that God(universal or infinite concious) is also real.

Thoughts(the will that makes matter organic and animate) can be theorized to be unable to be destroyed as they are energy.

>>131211341

You can replace God with anything you like. Dumbledore, a cup of tea, an all powerful boot, doesn't matter. X is all powerful. X exists because muh faith. X doesn't need evidence. Attack anything that disagrees with X. Just some basic Cult garbage that humanity has subscribed to since sun gods.

>>131211389

You have demonstrated nothing. You're talking in circles. God has no evidence while empty space is observable in atoms. Most of the universe is comprised of empty space. The lattice framework of any solid compound is mostly empty space. Read a book. Go take chem 101 at your local community collage. Learn something you stupid nigger.

>>131211825
>this is your brain LARPing as atheist
still ugly

>>131211890
>believes in X
good start

>>131211627
Because thoughts did not come from nothing retard.

>>131211796
You alread proved that you dont understand atheism, but you just shrugg off any criticism and go what you have decided to be true regardless of the real world the rest of us live in.

Have a nice day, im done with this troll, imma go play something.

>>131211871

>God is

Citation needed. Where is the evidence for his existence in the first place. This is where you start.

>>131211890
I've demonstrated you have to believe in what I call God.

You desire to change the words. That's cute. Not so easy when I destroyed your conception of "Nothing" is it? Very hard to continue deceiving people now.

>>131212060
Are you purposefully ignoring the arguments?

Infinite exists, ergo God exists.

>>131199980
Why would you belive in hell if it's just a coping tool for dealing with death. There is a vast amount of profound wisdom to take from religion.

>>131212003
who said they did?

a question, where did god come from?
while you ponder that im gonna go, but please do respond so i can have a laugh when i come back.

Also be a bit more creative and dont just go "god has always existed", i've heard that quite a few times.

>>131212254
God always existed

>>131212060
>its another lets not actually discuss God but the NERFd version of ""God"" for the sake of my arguments
GOD. G O D.
THE INFINITE AND ETERNAL ALL MIGHTY BEING

You can look up the deffinitins of infinite and eternal and God will be listed.

>>131212092

You are so far removed from the conversation at hand that it's hard to keep track of your line of thought. It's like speaking to a schizophrenic. You have not destroyed a thing beyond my brain cells. Nothing is demonstrable you dolt. Empty space is observable.

>>131212140

Provide. Material. Evidence. For. God. 'I believe the infinite suggest a god' is a crock of rationalist sophistry that is not a substantive argument or evidence for his existence.

Jews are incredibly furious the arguments are so simple. They want you to word salad mind fuck yourself like >>131211549

The truth is

Nothing is an impossible lie
Infinite exists and it is eternal
so God exists in it
Eternally

>the absolute state of theists
You fucks are the reason why religion fell out of favour, you just had to take everything literally and be unable to abstract ideas about why religion even began to exist, what god represents and why it brought stability. You decided to put all your hope in "God" rather than in God.

>>131212254
God is eternal.
You are God, your thoughts are Gods thoughts, but you will live and die like a prince first.

>>131212425
I've provided material evidence. The infinte detail on a single leaf. It's eternal.

Atheism is a truly flimsy lie.

>>131212468
I think you need to reread the thread. Atheist are getting spanked m8

>>131212595
I don't care about the rest of them, the only people who claim to be athiests are the ones you call it and athiests are as retarded as literalists. They choose to ignore the exact same shit you do.

>>131212733
They completely ignore the definition of God and there arguments are stupid shit like
>"does god have a beginning
tier.
They completely misunderstand the concept of God.

>>131212517

This is where the delusion truly lies. You have told yourself some comforting sophistry in the face of mountains of hard evidence and claimed your ideas to be superior to them. You have published nothing and can't claim a single thing with any evidence. You simply do not value the objective evidence as I do. Your ideas are worthless. You are preaching, not providing evidence or arguing the point.

>>131212595

>God is real because I believe he is real
>God is real because nothing is complicated
>The Big Bang more like the big fart lmao

Yeah I'm fucking sweating over here. Theists are delusional.

>>131212836
So do you, you equate God to infinite which isn't necessarily wrong but your reasoning for such origin is completely missing where God did begin.

>>131212920
>You have published nothing
is that a challenge?

>>131212836

>You just don't understand

You just move the fucking goalposts so it's impossible to understand. If God is a material being who exists and effects a materiel world than there must be material evidence of his existence. But all of a sudden when beckoned theists regress into sophistry to defend their God because no material evidence exists.

>>131212929
You don't understand the subtle beauty of my argument.

It posits that nothing is an inferior thought golem and never has existed. Infinite is eternal and had no start. What DID have a start was this world for man to enjoy. Which was obviously started with a thought from God.

I think that's the more interesting field of study. How did man begin?

That can start now that Atheism is dead and buried as a shill religion.

>>131213000

Please don't link me to your shitty entry level philosophy paper on how scientists r dum and you have it all figured out.

Provide a peer reviewed scientific paper of your incredible groundbreaking finding son disproving the empty space in atoms and I'll eat my shoe.

>>131213205
>You don't understand the subtle beauty of my argument.
Get fucked, the only thing you've done that can be considered beauty is jump through hopes
>Infinite is eternal
Yes
>and had no start
WRONG
R
O
N
G
Recursion.

>>131213401
>hopes
hoops

>>131213401
it demonstrably had no start and I can prove it.

Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Ergo it already existed.

>>131213205

>Infinite is real because I said so
>God is infinite because by Goat Herder scrolls said so
>Nothing is impossible because I don't understand chemistry
>Atheism is dead lol btfo I don't need evidence

This is how you read.

>>131213595
I have proven infinite real.

>>131198300
you keep making the same thread over and over again!

Explain to me this:
You have a drama with actors and a stage, and every time you chip off a part of the stage, one actor dies. When you've destroyed the entire stage, all the actors are dead. If you destroy half of the stage, 50% of the actors die as well.
What reason do we have to keep believing that the drama keeps going if it is so obviously dependant on the stage?

Also, I don't think you believe that a cell at the point of conception has a consciousness. No, obviously it arises little by little as the stage is physically constructed first in the womb, and then becomes more crisp and accurate as the brain grows during childhood. If you don't think that HUMAN consciousness requires matter to function, at what point does god come in and put the consciousness in you? And why doesn't he just put the consciousness into the first cell, why wait until there is enough "stage" to sustain it? Why does it seem so obvious that one requires the other?

>>131212468
What? Are you completely retarded? Atheist havent done shit. They are stuck in brainlet arguement land regurgitating the shit we've always heard.
For examples
>>131208897
>admits he doesnt know the origin even though his previous argument about thought were about the location of its origin like the brain
It is not unreasonable to assume thought comes from more thought.
Not proven, but logical.

Here
>>131210425
And
>>131211871
Provide much better logic and insight than atheist have. You have to be shitting me anon.

>>131213510
This only works under the assumption that thought is energy, which is a highly arrogant statement to make as many many people far smarter than anyone on this board have tackled the concept of thought can have been unable to answer its origin.

>>131213637
>What? Are you completely retarded? Atheist havent done shit. They are stuck in brainlet arguement land regurgitating the shit we've always heard.
You are not arguing a single thing I said, fuck off you daft yank cunt.

>>131213660
>thinks thoughts come from your brain
thoughtlet

someone had to teach your brain to make thoughts.

>>131213749
>thinks thoughts come from your brain
Who are you quoting? Where did I say that? Make an argument or fuck off.

>>131212425
God IS infinite
you.
dense.
retard

>>131213804
the argument is in the rest of the post, coward. meet it in battle.

>>131213724
Wew what an underwhelming and cowardly repose stay BTFO.

>>131213625

You seem to deeply understand what proven actually means. Evolution, for example, has lots of evidence compounded over many years of study which is why it's reached to a 'Theory' level of acceptance from the scientific community.

Some random christfag saying infinite is absolutely true is not proofs or evidence. It's a floating claim that hangs unsupported.

>>131213871

Where did you get that? God is nothing. God doesn't exist. There is no evidence for God. Infinity existing is removed from the God question. To say that God is real because infinity is real is to say heaven is blue because the sky is blue. They are detached claims.

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>>131213966
checked

>>131214133
I have given you evidence that will last your entire life.

Count the physical detail of a leaf

>>131213936
Why argue a point that nobody was ever arguing in the first place, if you want me to argue your counter-arguments then they actually have to be relevant to things that are being said, that's how argument works.
>>131213966
>make no argument
>get told you make no argument
>H-HAHA B-BTFO
You're pathetic and retards like you are partly why western society reached this swirling shithole of idiocy, you created a counter movement at an equal capacity because you can't abstract ideas.

>>131214170

You might as well start quoting bible verses if this is the level of discourse you have stooped to.

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>>131214188
Because I'm still winning and now you're crying about how I'm dropping "unrelated" redpills. It's funny to me.

>>131214250
It's tangible proof of the infinte. While "nothing" has been summarily crushed to the point where you can no longer theorize on it.

>>131214265
Not an argument.

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>>131214287

GET IN HERE!

>>131213724
>no arguments in return or acknowledgment of his opponents presented ones
>personal attacks
>self declaration of victory
Someone seems a little BTFO
the ABSOLUTE STATE of atheist itt

>>131214315
I could repeat it and then you could stumble some more.

Infinite is real, ergo God is real, ergo our thoughts come from God.

>>131214403
>praying is like talking to a rock
It's not praying to a rock, it's praying to God. God sees with your eyes and hears with your ears.

>be religious
>be retarded
>believe whatever TV and pastor says
>be fat
>adopt nigger children
wew lad it's like pottery

>>131214436
>ergo God is real, ergo our thoughts come from God
This is where the leap is not logically justified by the word "ergo"

>>131214310
>>131214436

Infinite being real or otherwise is meaningless to the God question. This point has missed you all thread.

I may draw the opposite conclusion from the same premise. Infinite is real, ergo the universe doesn't need a creator, ergo God doesn't exist.

>>131214416
>no arguments in return or acknowledgment of his opponents presented ones
Why argue an argument nobody was arguing
>self decleration of victory
I never declared victory, quote the part where I did.
>>131214436
God is a recusive s ystem generated from our own ability to think; we willed the concept of god but god wills itself to be god. The origin of the ability to do so is still completely up in the fucking air but its certainly existing on some capacity far beyond merely our physical brain.
Read a book nigger, try some fucking Jung and educated yourself.

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>>131214523

Citation needed you hilarious retard.

>>131212468
>You decided to put all your hope in "God" rather than in God
>"God" rather than in God
Wtf did you just write anon. Are you fucking retarded?
If God is infinite, and infinite exist, infinite IS God

>>131214883
"God" as a physical entity that people believe in versus the God as a concept to personify a higher-level abstraction of the social convention, God started with the concept, but the concept demanded itself become a physical being. If you had read and understood once in your life you would know this.

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>>131215120
>physical entity
WRONG.
He is an infinite and eternal BEING, as in CONSCIOUS and EVER PRESENT. Like how MATTER, MATH and ENERGY are ever present, and eternal. These are only proof towards his existence if not ARE his existence.
You thoughts all rose from the universal one that was eternal and infinite.

> If you had read and understood once in your life you would know this.
What an arrogant statement coming from you.

>>131215724
>BEING
Exactly, so a physical entity. If God is energy as you claim, and energy is matter as everything is energy, then god has a physical existence.

>>131215833
Sounds like you're turning into a theist at this rate.

>>131216079
I never claimed to be an athiest or a thiest, I think both make some horrible misinterpretations/completely ignore reason when it comes to God and the finer points of what God actually represents; one of those is that treating God as a physical thing to be worshipped completely misses the point of the concept and you're buying into a misinterpretation of a book that was made to teach you incredibly important concepts about how live in a society.
Being a literalist is better than being an athiest, but that's just picking between being wrong and being slightly less wrong.

>>131216466
I was also using your own arguments to show you that by your logic God is a physical being when you try to say that it is wrong.

I'm confused why the universe has to be eternal, why that would imply there needs to be a god and what any of this has to do with human thought.

>>131216466
That's a pitfall of Islam and many christcucks. I thought you were barking up this tree but I couldn't be sure.

The scripture says we ARE God, mind you, but die like princes.

>>131216697
I say it is wrong because it is half true. Imagination is not physical.

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>>131216734
Its process of elimination. As philosophers we have finally destroyed "nothing" and that leaves us with infinity/eternity.

>>131216734
God is infinite. It's real simple once the deception of "nothing" dissipates like a miasma.

>>131216930
>The scripture says we ARE God, mind you, but die like princes.
We are God indeed, we can't create that concept without actually having that capacity.
>Imagination is not physical
Not quite, if you consider Imagination as the sum of perception and thought (I see no reason why it isn't, our imagination is both our thoughts and experiences) then it actually has physical impact, this is where Quantumn Physics comes in and the fact that our simple act of observation can cause something to retroactively become something else because we perceived the present version.

>>131217393
>if you consider Imagination as the sum of perception and thought
I don't. I see inspiration from a higher power.

>>131217475
and I can prove it.

>>131217475
Then you'd need to be able to prove that if you wish to use it as the basis for an argument, which is simply not possible.

>>131217078
Elaborate, how have we destroyed "nothing"? And if we assume the universe is eternal, how does that prove god?

>>131217555
kind begets kind. the existence of imagination is proof of its eternity.

>>131217938
>>131211337

>>131217968
You can't just say the imagination is proof of divine inspiration simply because it exists, that's not how logic and reasoning works. To also make this claim you need to be able to prove the origin of thought which nobody has done and will not do for a very long time.

>>131218180
>that's not how logic and reasoning works.
it is. I have destroyed nothing, which means these preciously held concepts must come from eternity.

Eternity doesn't need a beginning

Just listen to Jordan Peterson discussing religion and you will stop being at least a piece of shit atheist

>>131218173

answer my posts you faggot
>>131213635
>>131214620

>>131213635
>What reason do we have to keep believing that the drama keeps going
the show must go on

>>131218338
>it is.
Ok now you can fuck off, you can't simply make an assertion that asserts itself and claim it as proof all of the time.

Why is pol so black and white when it comes to this god shit?

>>131218641
Fundamentalists and literalists can't abstract, athiets choose to use the priors literality as a reason to dismiss everything to do with it.

>>131214620
I've restructured philosophy by eliminating "nothing"

thought is eternal

>>131213635
The writers came before the stage
Drama came before the play. It is why we write plays with drama.

> I don't think you believe that a cell at the point of conception has a consciousness
it does or it wouldn't survive and we wouldn't be here.

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>>131199489
Have fun in Hell degenerate

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You came into life out of seeming nothingness.

Even if there is absolutely nothing after death, by precedent alone, you will probably incarnate again.

>>131218628
I have reshaped philosophical thought by eliminating the manipulative shroud of nothing.

The arguments have been clearly laid out. Now I put forth new arguments and you are like a wolf without your teeth without "nothing" to fill the space between your ears.

>fourth time this thread has popped up since yesterday
>people keep trying to logic someone out of a position they didn't logic themselves into
you fuckers keep falling for the bait

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>>131201340
>founding fathers of this great country were not religious

>>131198300
I miss the days when theists actually tried to debate instead of just complete 100% shitposting from all of them.

>>131218922
Nobody but you has made use of 'Nothing', existence is not the proof of the totality of existence because our perception impacts the form of existence.
>>131218935
Autism can be fun.

>>131219058
The debate is over. I won.

>>131201340
>Greeks
>not religious
wat

>>131198300
christianity was an early (((attempt))) at infecting a society with a sort of proto-communism. regardless of if there is a god, all organized religion is either an imitation of or a tool of judaism

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If you think you know god, you don't know jack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVoV1CL6TUE

>>131219077
Sorry, you preclude nothing when you claim thoughts aren't eternal. It is your argument that's demonstrably false.

I don't care what you say further than that. You use nothing to posit other theories. That era is done.

>>131219058
It's a sad world, philosophers used to push the boundries of reason and were typically religions because they understood the ideas and now they've all died and we're left with fundamentalists and athiests.

>>131219115
>96 posts.
>Most are thought terminating cliches.
>The rest are shitposting.
I mean, I guess.

>>131219193
>when you claim thoughts aren't eternal
Nowhere did I say that, please quote where I said that thought is not eternal.

>>131219266
I post irrefutable evidence for posterity.

You LARP as a winner on the internet

>>131219077
Not really sure what the point of trying is. OP's argument is entirely based on the assumption that god is eternal. Any challenging of that assumption and he just deflects. There is no convincing him

>>131219367
Atheist burger wins again!

>>131219416
Thankfully i'm not trying to convince him, I'm just using it to become better at countering arguments.

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>>131219367
>A LARPer calling others LARPers.
I'd be shocked if it wasn't in the script.

>>131219478
Maybe i'll learn something in the process too, that's always a good thing.

>>131219478
Fair enough. At least someone in this thread is reasonable

>>131198300
Post more Mario

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>>131219332
So you agree they are eternal?
Then you agree eternity exists.
If thoughts are eternal, then what is the greater whole? Is thought ever not present? Wouldn't that be...
GOD?

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>>131198300
>mfw atheist think thoughts come and go from nowhere/nothing in life for no reason
Why does anything need a reason to exist?
>mfw atheist believe in "nothing"
It's the logical opposite of thing.
>mfw atheist can't rationalize thoughts are energy and can not be created or destroyed
Thoughts are energy in the same way your image of Mario is energy; your image is electrical information represented by bits which are then converted into an image emitted by your computer screen.
Our thoughts are electrochemical impulses in our brains.
>mfw atheist STILL don't understand God
I realize he is a useful existence for brainlets who would act like niggers if they didn't believe in a higher power that will punish them for nigger behavior. For those of us who are smarter than a nigger, this is not needed as we have the intelligence to realize the utility of not being a nigger.

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Lets assume for a moment that your god exists. It's not argument, its not a maybe. He exists, we know it for a fact. Why would you worship him? He either doesn't care about mankind or he's a big kid with a magnifying glass. Right now there is a child being raped and your god is doing nothing to stop it. There is no advantage to worshiping him, you gain nothing out of it and he isn't even powerful enough to protect your young.

>>131219741
>It's the logical opposite of thing.
lie. the opposite of a thing is destruction and evil.

>>131219620
No, I think trying to claim the origin of thought exists in a thing that isn't even being consistently represented by your own arguments is not a sensible foundation for an argument.

>>131219753
siddhis

>>131219831
I win.

the infinite is real
God is real
eternity is real
thought always existed
God is thought.
God is all

>>131219910
>I win
proof??????????????

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>>131204907
>tfw atheism is inherent to communism
>tfw communism is jewish
>tfw atheist pretending to be redpilled
laaaaaal

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>>131219910
>I win.

>>131219946
>the infinite is real
>God is real
>eternity is real
>thought always existed
>God is thought.
>God is all
God is by definition omnipresent, omnipotent, eternal and infinite

>>131220065
but if god acts through our eyes and ears and thought is shaped by perception, god cannot exist without us.

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>>131214133
>There is no evidence for God

then why do the clouds go behind the sun?

Job 37:21
And now men see not the bright light which is in the clouds: but the wind passeth, and cleanseth them.

>>131220179
and thought is shaped by perception in anyones arguments because god does not give useless guidance.

>>131220179
You ARE God, read the scripture it makes this clear.
You will die like a prince.

>>131220203
You flat earthers are a pack of morons but fucked if that image ain't a head scratcher (assuming it ain't shopped - which it probably is)

>>131220247
So god still relies on us to exist, if we are god and we had a beginning (we do) then god is not eternal as he has a beginning..

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Proof of god. Stars and planets are lights on the firmament not objects in outer space.

Genesis 1:14-15
14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

A Star Close Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tgxTCDjvBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ukxGhX0w0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afjcaJpMWyc

>>131220491
You rely on God. That's the purpose of worship and thanks.