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Brit/pol/ - So is Brexit happening or not? Edition

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>Thread Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVzvdCKuu4w

>Required reading for stupid Americans
https://pastebin.com/nhTNFfMC

>Queens Speech Bill-by-bill Quick Rundown
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40339564

>EU leaders says UK offer could 'worsen situation'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40378913

>Darren Osborne charged with terrorism-related murder and attempted murder following Ramavan incident
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40381794

>More than 800 homes in tower blocks in Camden evacuated because of fire safety concerns
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40389148

>Norman Lamb not standing for Lib Dem leader because he's a Brexiteer
http://www.libdemvoice.org/no-normtroopers-this-time-norman-lamb-wont-stand-for-leader-54692.html
http://archive.is/948zZ

>HS2 and WCML bidders revealed (First will always be BTFO after last time)
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/transport/2017/06/23/three-rivals-bidding-for-hs2-and-west-coast-franchise/
http://archive.is/DtZrg

>Police confirm fire started by a fridge
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40380584

>Survivors of London's Grenfell Tower fire are to be rehomed in a luxury development in the heart of Kensington, the government has said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40357280

>Show us where you are at all times goy
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/06/23/police-issue-child-safety-warning-snapchat-maps-update-reveals/
http://archive.is/I6p5A

>US lying about Best Korea
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-40377543

>Prince Phillip still in hospital
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40380140

>Tories accused of breaching electoral law (Again)
http://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/tories-embroiled-new-potential-election-fraud-scandal/23/06/
http://archive.is/2a3mq
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>>131167077
Mistress magpie t.b.h.
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>>131167164
Would you pay her to take a shit on you?
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What I find most annoying is everyone here acts exactly like Peter Hitchens (a Jew) and keeps saying "le country is le dead and there's no le coming back."

Why don't you embrace your country and stop being a bunch of pussies. Go out and enjoy the diversity. Overall quit fucking whining and do something with your lives.
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THA EN HAITCH ESS OPARATEZ ON A SHOOSTRING BUDJIT YET STILL PRUHVIYDES A REEZNABLE QUALITEE OF ELFCARE

FWEE MARKITS BTFO
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Would Oswald Mosley be a remainer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrBbN0vvGLA
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This been talked about yet?
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/crodyon-fire-ten-cars-alight-in-huge-blaze-sending-smoke-billowing-across-south-london-a3572326.html
What do we think? Arabic Arson again?
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>>131167094

at least you're a leftist who is honest about what a thieving dirty ratty slimy fucking beggar he is
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>>131167229
I'd pay her to watch question time with me
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>>131167282
No, the EU is different to his vision of a united Europe.
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>>131167287
Tanned Brits 2bh
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>>131167164
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Daily reminder that the SNP sucks
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>>131167149
This. Globalism is based and you're living in the past if you think a country should own things that the people paid for with their tax.
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>tfw could have seen Mummy in Liverpool today during armed forces day but didn' because I was asleep

I could have touched and smelled her, breathed in her particles and atoms

Maybe even touched myself whilst looking at her
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>>131167396
She has a husband? I always thought she was a rug muncher
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>>131167381

anyone got a link to this clip?
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>>131167381
Anyone got a timestamp for when she appears? I missed it
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Lucy Verasamy on ITV right now.
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>>131167432

Disrobe yourself at once, young man.
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>>131167535
47:05

But watch the full thing, it's hilarious. Or at least from about half way to see the cuck get kicked out
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Where were you when anon went full autism?
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Got my ESA decision letter today lads.

Getting put into the work related activity group.

At least I get to keep my bennies, fuck you Theresa "bennie snatcher" May.
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>>131167503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz8sKMgeqUU

46:48
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Are the people glorifying Mosley just memeing or is he worth really reading up on?
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>>131167503
>>131167535

Not a clip, but the full ep is on Youtube. If I got the timestamp wrong skip to 47mins in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=549qfXATYEo#t=47m00s
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>>131167304
So your only problem is literally "I'm so greedy I want everything for myself"

God, capitalist are a caricature of themselves at this point.
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>>131167786
Follow up question, what would be the best starting point for reading up on him?
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>>131167695
Try appeal and see if you can get in the support group. It's quite a lot more money
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>>131167281
>>131167255

The welfare state is so strong and ingrained here, that people aren't prepared to make the nessisary but temporary sacrifices to change our economy and become successfull.
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>>131167790
Thanks. I'm just relieved she's an Americlap
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>>131167845

I was already in the support group.
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>>131167675
Objectively true. Nobody disproved me once, instead spouting off righty memes and posting idiots like Hayek and Sowell.
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>>131167555
inb4 she makes a big thing out of this and ends up on a stage with anita sarkeesian
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>>131167800

You're the one who wants to steal money from everyone else and you're calling *me* the greedy one? because I think people should have property rights to guard against theft from shit stained urchin commies like you
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>Police confirm fire started by a fridge

When will the Ethiopian guy be charged ?
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>>131167790

FIVE THOUSAND QUIDD
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the state of britpol today
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>>131167786
>>131167820
He's incredible.

Read 'Fascism: 100 Questions asked and answered.'

It's free online and very short. Go from there and read as much as you want.
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>>131167381
One eye on each quid saved per square meter
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>>131167164
Who?
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>>131167786
>>131167820
He one of the more curious fascists, and proposed a very UK form of it.

http://cnqzu.com/library/Solar%20General/100-questions-about-fascism-oswald-mosley.pdf

is a good starter.
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>>131168016

Ban assault fridges.
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Going to Wembley stadium soon
Wish me luck boyos
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>>131167820
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Oswaldmosley.com

>If you love our country you are national, and if you love our people you are a socialist.
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Brexit isn't going to happen. We're going to be stuck in the EEC with some sort of Norway arrangement. It will be sold as a transitional period, but as time goes on the political will to make the final plunge will be spent.
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>>131167975

>sowell
>idiot

Hahahaha

Could you at least put a trip on.

Also you never had an argument to anything that wasn't a variation of

"No it isn't".

Summarise your top three arguments from the last thread. Go.
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>>131168073
Or not pack your belongings while your flat is on fire?
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>>131167800
"the state" is just a collection of brigands with fancy titles

they have no more or less right to take anything from anyone than a band of highwaymen do
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>>131167282
No, because the government of the EU is a financial government.

THE POWER OF MONEY

AND MONEY
L
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>>131168068
An inbred looking American woman who was on question time last night and turned out to be a kinky dominatrix
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>>131167987
It's not stealing money, it doesn't belong to you. It belongs to the government.
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>>131168016
charged with what?
did he commit a crime by having a faulty fridge?
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>>131167790
Americans saying quid just sounds odd
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>>131167586

I would if she asked me too, even in public
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>>131168180

BRITAIN LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGHHEHEEEEEVVVESSSSSSSS-AGH!
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On twitter there something about a "football march" or something?
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>>131167984
It was about a year ago I think, she seems the sort to take it as banter and not be a total bellend about it desu.

If you ever see a female presenter live on facebook I strongly recommend watching and reading the comments, it's fucking hilarious.
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>>131168150
>The state allocates resources better than the free market. I proved this true objectively.

>Economics is a fool's science. No better than astrology or palm reading.

>The capitalist class can be forced to hand over their wealth through tough, oppressive government measures. This money can then be invested in foreign land.
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>>131168277

Redefining the ownership of property in order to violently expropriate it from others is literally theft.

If nobody has property and everything belongs to the state, nobody has any incentive to produce anything since they will not real the rewards that they make, it will just be taken from them the second they produce anything.
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>>131168365
Some football plebs going for a walk. Nothing eventful
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>>131167739
Hot.
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>>131168163
Nonsense. The state is the ultimate representation of the nation as whole.
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>Ln5Jt1OA
stop replying to this mongrel, he is either a troll or is deranged and deluded. either way, it's a waste of your oxygen to do so.
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>>131168439
They will have incentive. That is, the incentive to strengthen the nation and the state.
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>>131168365
EDL lad. Basically our most right wing political group, though they're quite pro-zionism. But the rank and file haven't got a clue or an opinion about all that, they're just there because they detest muslims and probably hate all non-whites.
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>>131168442
There are thousands there you pleb.
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COME ON RYAN MOORE. DO IT FOR ARE/LIZ/ (and my accumulator)
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>>131168487

Why would they have an incentive to constantly be thieved from and to have all your efforts wiped away and go to somebody else? Humans are not eusocial insects.
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>>131168456
That is the queen, not the government.
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>>131168415
>The state allocates resources better than the free market. I proved this true objectively.

How did you prove it true objectively you fucking idiot. Can you show me examples. What government, what industry, when - you can't just say 'government is better than market.'
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>>131167786
He was a meme. He used silly marches from Germany and grotesque uniforms from Italy, which at the time were seen as anti-British.
Privately he didn't care about Jews, and early on some of his movements most prominent members were Jewish, antisemitism was just a tacked on afterthought he adopted for no discernable reason.
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>>131167586
id fug
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>>131168518
Who cares? A sea of pot bellied bald football mongs doesn't help our cause
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>>131168415
>The state allocates resources better than the free market. I proved this true objectively.
That is a load of hogwash and you know it. Anyone who survived eastern europe would tell you to sod the fuck off. So would Venezuelans.
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>>131168617
see >>131167275
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>>131168581
according to americans on /pol/ this woman is not white.
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>>131168456
in what sense is that true? explain your reasoning
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Everything's fucked, lads.

We're fucking doomed. No true nationalist party, just Tory Jews or Labour commies. We're fucked. Brexit has become a right pig's ear, the pound is fucked and is only going to get worse.

More pakis and niggers will be let in, they always are.

What's the fucking point in being British these days, it's pathetic?

At least France have got |Le Pen, what have we got? The joke that is UKIP. Even Farage is a muslim loving cunt.
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>>131167820
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oswald-Mosley-Papermacs-Robert-Skidelsky/dp/0333293851
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>>131167790

>see pic of woman in thread
>Ironically thinking don't let the Americans see this clip, turns out she's American kek

Maybe this is the effect Bong air has on peoples genes, I bet she was a 8/10 before she lived here

Still strange hearing her say quintissentially British words, quaint almost, she can stay I like her.
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>>131168415

1. Prove it again I must have missed this

2. Annoyingly I agree

3. Provide me an example in recent British history when this has happened successfully. You pontificating online about what "can happen" isn't an argument. Explain how. How can the British government seize, say, Starbucks?
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>>131168581
FOR FUCK SAKE
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>>131168498
Thanks - not pro-Zionist (friends with too many christian Lebanese) But they had enough people out there to make a impression. Which is a good thing.
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>>131167077
https://youtu.be/mfHrMnl1uLo?t=44s
Why doesn't this happen in real life, lads ;_;
Also give Monarchist flag please.
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>>131168677
>Ocarina of Time, in the original Nintendo 64 version, had two major religious references: The Fire Temple's music sampled a group of men chanting Islamic prayer. This was removed from later versions of the game by Nintendo because of the religious association. The name of 'Allah' can clearly be heard at one point. Another Arabic allusion that was deciphered was "I bear witness that there is no god but Allah". It was replaced by a MIDI Synthesizer in later releases, ports, and remakes.
>The second religious reference in Ocarina of Time was the Gerudo Symbol, which was far more widespread as it appeared as a motif on several elements through the game, including blocks, switches, and the Mirror Shield.

fukken hell i knew about the gerudo symbol thing, but i didnt realise they put actual islamic prayer music in, what the fuck
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>>131168719

Chin up, lad. The public is redpilled as fuck. More than ever. This just isn't being represented in our floppy haired oxbridge urbanite journo class.
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>>131167790
God, americans should never say quid

also, the "2 quid less" panels meet the british codes.
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>>131167396
Not going to contest that
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>>131168609
They wouldn't have all their efforts wiped away, that would only happen if they didn't toe the government line.

Short term sacrifice for long term gain.
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>>131169026

You want to turn the entire population into a slave caste.
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>>131169001
May must love the SNP, they make her look competent.
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>>131167275
That graph is theoretical and horribly simplistic. Example: how does supply side economics explain food deserts?
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nth for patiently waiting for the return of Adam Wallace
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>>131167315

A perfect brit/pol/ answer
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>>131169001
Mhairi black is the prototypical SNP voter and MP: obnoxious, loud mouthed, retarded
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>>131169111
Untrue.
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>>131169111
Not that I agree with that neo-commie, obviously.
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>>131169249
She sounds more masculine than most men
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>>131168858

>Monarch
>only power is to "call elections"

lol, even in the context of monarchical resurgence, Democracy still prevails. shows how cucked we are.
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>>131167555

Lucy is fucking stunning
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>>131169026
So become Valenzuela then and slowly starve under government price controls?
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>>131169197
The point to take from that image is that Communists have no plan
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>>131168719

Get on NEETbux and stop worrying lad.

Why get worked up about something you can't do anything to prevent?
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>>131169272

Nobody can own anything and everything they produce is immediately transferred away from them to their masters in the state. How is that not slavery and bondage?
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Does anyone know if Peter Hitchens responds to his Facebook messages?
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>>131169197
>supply side economics explain food deserts
The cost of production (and distribution) price the food so high they cannot compete with a place 3 miles away that has lower costs, and people will go miles to get cheap food.
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This song is underrated tbqh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6nevGNYTkA
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>>131169249

Big fat strap-on wearing lezza with a clit like a mini sausage
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>>131168798
Free markets are systematically inefficient, because most prices in modern capitalism are effectively administered prices created by quasi monopolies. This throws serious doubt on the connection between free markets and rational resource allocation.
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>>131169339
Agreed
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>>131169497
I never said that was the case, I said that the government would requisition some wealth, not all wealth, in order to invest in the future.

Once society has been successfully reorientated to support the empowerment of the people, the Monarch and State, free enterprise can once again be permitted to some extent.
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>>131169736

And the example you used was the NHS being efficient? When everyone in that system tells you otherwise?
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>>131169197
i dont get the black area= food desert meme in america. Any immigrant heavy area in london whether asian or african is full of tons of shitty shops selling there local fruits/vegetables
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>>131169736

>monopolies are bad
>i want the government to control literally everything
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>>131169860
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>>131169833

>empowerment of the people

Define this
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>>131169393
What's a good way to get NEETbux?

I had them for a while but I had to prove I'd been applying for jobs.
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>>131169736
>Free markets are systematically inefficient
No they are not you mong. You can tell by the margins on most products. The inefficiencies come in with government controlled enterprises as the goals are not to be efficient, but to provide work or a government controlled monopoly.

Please show me something that the government is more efficient outside of regular government activities like schools, Prisons, or defense. You cannot compare UK and US healthcare due to the fact that we demand timely service, something that the UK fails at outside of emergency care.
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>>131169833

oh, so they'll just be slaves for a little while? oh okay
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>>131169804
I want to cum in her mouth
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What's this about a cyber attack on parliament lads?
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Kelly Brook has put on weight. Still would though.
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>>131169933
Pride in one's people and nation, and the desire to see both strengthened.
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>>131169833
>Once society has been successfully re-orientated to support the empowerment of the people
Sounds like what they proposed in Valenzuela, and that went over well.

And the UK does not have the oil wealth.
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>>131169903
Private monopolies are bad, because they are based first and foremost on exploitation.
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>>131170129
Bloody Russians again
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>>131169833
Are you the same moron from the other brit pol thread?
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>>131167555
I can sometimes understand the feminists point with stuff like this. She's an intelligent woman who knows her field yet she's targeted with >lewd comments because she's pretty.
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>>131170130
Nah, she looks fine lad
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>>131170201
No they are not. The other companies are merely inept at producing anything better.
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>>131170028
>Show me something the government is more efficient at except the things is is more efficient as

wew lad

Anyway, the UK system is more EFFICIENT than the US system. The US system eats up far more funding than the UK system so they're not comparable.
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>>131170201

There is no qualitative difference between "private" and "public" when differentiating between corporations and the state (a sovereign corporation).
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>>131170036
Stop calling it slavery. Also, I'm not a marxists because I don't believe workers should seize the means of production.
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>>131170327
Hmmm I wonder why that is? Maybe the size of US compared to the UK is massive really makes you think
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>>131169955

JSA is shit.

ESA is the business since they leave you alone, all you need to get it is a monthly medical certificate from your GP. Just say you're suffering mental health problems and feel depressed.
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>>131170165
Not what they proposed in Venezuela at all.

Stop mentioning that country. They didn't have a plan, and so obviously they failed.
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>>131170327
And the UK system is FAR less efficient than the German or French systems, which is dependent on insurance from companies
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>>131170249
Not a moron, an intellectual.
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>>131170383

No, you believe something far worse, that the government should seize everybody's property and turn them into slaves for whom the fruits of their labor are immediately transferred away from them into the hands of some self appointed bureaucrats.
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>>131170383
You've said that you want to nationalise every industry multiple times moron
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>>131170359
The state isn't a corporation, it's an organic entity.
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>>131170327

You had three people countering this last thread, one of whom WORKS for the NHS telling you the exact opposite and all you could say was "no it doesn't". What is anyone supposed to do with that?
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>>131170425
I'm talking about as a percentage as GDP.
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>>131169881
Simple. most of the communities have stores that sell canned goods, but not fresh veggies since their veggies are expensive (due to lack of bulk buying) and people travel if they want fresh veggies. That and the big chains will not move in due to insurance issues.
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>>131170474
The UK system isn't as well funded as continental systems. The continental system is also heavily dependent on the state.
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>>131170625
>Mixes up Gross GDP and GDP Per Capita
Really makes you think about the intelligence level of communists.
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>>131170583

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crown

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation_sole
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if Glasto was about "everyone" the ticket prices wouldn't be so extortionate
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>>131170488
Nonsense. Its called reinvestment.

You're just strawmannirg me at this point.
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Thoughts on Jeremy's set at Glasto?
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>>131170723
It's about middle class and upper middle class twats who like ketamine too much and vote exclusively against white interests while living in mostly white communes and gated communities in suburbs.

Fucking bastards.
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>>131170488
You said that the state should take all rich people's money, property and land. You also said if they don't agree then you would arrest them.
You really have the memory span of a fucking goldfish..
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>>131170727

>if I invent buzzwords, people won't realise that I'm stealing not only all their wealth, but all of their capacity to ever create and see the benefit of any wealth they do make
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>>131170250
Can't help but agree to be honest.
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>tfw jezza gets a bottle of piss thrown at him
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>>131170636
most small stores sell fruit and vegetables here even in the poorest areas(bigs part of the north have lower avarage wages than shitholes like detroit)
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>>131170770
just the usual retarded commie shite
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>>131170327
The UK system is not efficient

Lower cost =/= more efficient. It provides substandard service and long waits to lower cost.

>Muh life expediency
is due to how the US counts stillbirths. EU and UK will only count it a live birth if a doctor thinks the baby has a chance to live. US counts a live birth if the baby takes one breath, even if it doomed to die in a few days.
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>>131170521
That's the state owning the industries not the workers.
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Why is everyone divided over socialism/capitalism? Even moderate centrists believe THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE AND THE OTHER SIDE IS INHERENTLY EVIL!!!
Why can't we just accept that both CAN work within the correct environment, and both occasionally fail?
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>>131170603
nonsense.
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>women laid down their lives for votes in the first world war

HMMMMMMM
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>>131170690
You're such a dumb twit.

It costs more as percentage of GDP you utter melt.
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>>131170922
So you want full blown anarchism with a state? You realise that is impossible?
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>>131169393
I do not like this (((anon)))
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why is he talking about trump when he's not even involved in UK politics
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>>131170698
I would redefine them.
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is there anything she doesn't fuck up?

and you guys wanted her to be PM
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>>131170831
Strawmannirg.
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>>131171008
>bawww you're not allowed to talk about geopolitics as a politician
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>>131171008
climate change memes
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>slagging of someone you'll have to work with if you actually manage win an election

What a fucking mong
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>>131170770
inspirational
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>>131171008
Easy target that most people in the UK hate or are indifferent to. Almost nobody in the UK loves Trump, so its free talking points to make JC's position look stronger.
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>>131170976
they got all jaundiced and shit in the factories i guess
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>>131171008
Fucking hell he was just making a quick comparison you fucking retarded chimp
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I shan't be celebrating Armed Forces Day, thank you very much. No one has as much respect for the military as me, but AFD is a sham, an artificial day created by Blairite faux-patriots who secretly despise our great military history. The same people who make sure that modern British children know nothing of Nelson and Wellington, Agincourt and the Armada (or if they do, in an anti-British way, remember when a school asked children to imagine being Spanish soldiers and reasons why they would want to invade us?) and obliterating previous day's of celebration such as Trafalgar and Waterloo Day, until they saw the need for the plebs to like the military they use.

Before we used to celebrate the great victories of BRITAIN (Trafalgar and Waterloo Day), now it's about the service of LGBTQI+ people in the YEWKAY armed forces.
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>>131171048
i keep thinking of an alternate dimension where she became an actress instead of a politician and played a bumbling minister in the thick of it

like art imitating reality
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>>131171024
>>131171056

>I would redefine reality to try and escape from it
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>>131170999
>full blown anarchism with a state

Are you drunk lad? Did you actually read what I wrote?
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>>131171128
he's mentioned him 3 times now
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>>131171048

What has she fucked up? She's the best one in the cabinet. She raped the BBC the other day for not being patriotic enough and the commies went ballistic. She's amazing.
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>>131167452
nah you can tell by her face she has a real man to stir her haggis every night in bed
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Has anyone encountered a rabid Corbynista who isn't white and middle class?
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>>131171160
Strawmanning.
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>>131171135
>my sides
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>corbyn preaching about poverty to a bunch of champagne socialists

hmmmm
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>>131170900
It partly due to the buying habits.

In white areas, and white rural areas, you will find small stores selling veggies. In black areas you will not due to the fact that blacks will not buy those veggies.

For example, if you go to a poor black and poor hispanic area. The hispanic area will have tons of small stores that will sell veggies. The black areas won't, and when the stores offer them it goes to waste since the locals do not buy it. I do not have poof with numbers, but that is talking to store owners back when I had a job to get them to place ATMs in their stores and I got to know 100s of small store owners.
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>>131171234
Nope
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>>131171214
attracting large amounts of public derision is the definition of "fucking up."
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>>131171234
virtually everyone in my city
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>>131171350
They're usually either Indie cindy females or LADbible reading blokes.
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>>131171261
Really makes my almonds activate especially when the tickets cost ÂŁ300 a piece which a poor person wouldnt be able to afford
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>>131171214
this is why nobody likes you and you waste half your life shitposting on a weeb image posting site.

she's a walking disaster area. everything she touches turns to shit. you'd have to be an autist not to see this.....politicians telling journalists what to say and think, in public, is a no no.
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Parliament getting attacked by Putin
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>>131171380
Which city's that senpai?
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>>131171234
Diane Abbott?
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>>131171130
Spot on.

Armed Forces Day was set up by Blairites to show support for their kike wars, not for servicemen who're thrown on the scrapheap when they return home.
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>>131170954

Not an argument.

What's nonsense? Actual employees telling you that the system is fucked is nonsense?

C'mon mr intellectual where's the evidence to the contrary?
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>>131171369

>public derision

she's gotten derision from buttmad lefties and terrified journalists who she called out. that isn't the "public" mate

check out the comments here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NTcT1Ocsoc

people love her
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>>131168133
>Putting .com at the end of a google search
Hello Grandpa
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who's on after corbyn
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OH JEREMY CORBYN
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>>131171495
kim jong un
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>>131171421
>politicians telling journalists what to say and think, in public, is a no no.

No, it fucking isn't you cunt. I want journalists to literally be crucified in the fucking street.
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>>131167077

>>131168916
When will you investigate your criminals?
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>>131171516
Wtf that guy was on with david beckham as well
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>>131168678
Yeah they complain about people hating Britain yet they cost us millions having to police their football games because they hate people who support other teams even though they're all foereigners anyway.
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>>131171495
Jo Cocks.
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>>131171459
>leadsom
>nationalist
wew
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>>131171459
>check out the comments
are you fucking mental
basically every comment on the BBC website the day of the election was screaming at people to vote for May and we saw how that turned out
they're not representative of anything
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>>131171516
That chant is fucking AIDS. LADbible, Soccer AM tier normie shit.
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>>131171459
>I live in an echochamber...the post


speaking as a mother, may should get rid of her. total liability.
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>>131171425
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>>131170940
Limited socialism can work in specific cases.

-Homogeneous populations
-smaller (~5 million people or less) states

It much more important for the states to break up trusts and make sure competition exists, as monopolies, private or public, provide poor service but may be needed in specific cases.

And if workers want to control the business, the best way is for them as a group buy shares of the company, as even a 5-20% stake in a company will provide a lot of ability to control management.
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>>131171596
that's mike eavis, the founder of glastonbury festival.
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hate how they are trying to push politics into music

are there any acts out there who haven't sold out to the lefties?
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>BREAKING: Parliament hit by cyber attack
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40394074
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>>131168678
>why doesn't anyone march for our cause?!

>thousands of guys with families and hobbiesuse their Saturday to march.

>fucksake why are those guys marching for our cause.

Knobcheese merchant so you are.
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Lads do you tip if there's already a ÂŁ4 delivery charge?
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>>131171748
>hate how they are trying to push politics into music
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>>131171761
>Lads do you tip if there's already a ÂŁ4 delivery charge?
This is Britain. We don't tip at all
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>>131171752
i broke this news 20 mins ago
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>>131171587
>i'm an edgy teenager with a limited understanding of public relations...... the post
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>>131171761
round up to nearest ÂŁ1
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>>131171654
CALM DOWN, CALM DOWN
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>>131171592
Sanders wife may very well go to jail for bank fraud.
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>>131171811
i work for deliveroo and some legend gaveme a ÂŁ7 tip a few days ago
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>>131171752

Nice, maybe somebody else can find out the UKs full position on Brexit
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>>131171748
It's worse than the leftists who go down to primary school and impregnate the children there with failed ideologies.
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>corbyn finishes quoting a romantic poet
>"and next up on the pyramid stage..."
>BIG DIRTY STINKING BASS
>DIRTY STINKING BASS
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>>131171833

No, it's the logical conclusion you reach after you dis-privilege the idea of Democracy which is a system which should not be encouraged and should be undermined and destroyed at every opportunity.
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>>131171748
billy corgan is pretty based tbph, dunno about the rest of the pumpkins, but the band is just billy now anyway.
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>>131168345
Why do you support corporate tyranny? You realise the government is the only check on corporations, right?
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>>131171753
football mongs are cancer.

everything they touch turns to shit.


wake me up when normal people are marching in the streets
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>>131171854
watch it lad
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>>131167077
if the dithering on Brexit continues /or your politicians fuck voters over once again are you boys finally going to get off your asses and take back your country or are the looney lefties going to be given more carte blanche to destroy whatever is left of Britain
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>>131172067
What does he mean by this?
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>>131171957

What do you mean by Corporate Tyranny? Aren't you the guy that supports the state enslaving everybody and liquidating all property rights?

Corporations are pretty good at keeping checks on themselves, you notice their CEOs get fired when they don't perform well, right?

But when Democracy doesn't perform, consistently, for over a century, then we have no check on it or way to remove it? Sounds like a pretty shitty system to me desu
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>>131172067
Rightly?
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>>131171932
>im reinforcing the notion that im an edgy teenager with a limited understanding of the world because I spend too much time online....the post.

no need to be so melodramatic you little bitch
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>>131171999
Noice trips.

I'm from an equally poorfag leftist city, I know your pain m8.
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>>131172127
>with a limited understanding of the world

I understand it more than you do senpai
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>>131172115
>you notice their CEOs get fired when they don't perform well, right?


2008 banking crisis....not many ceo's got fired
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>>131172161
no you don't
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>>131172187

Yeah, because the socialist state bailed them out and prevented them from being exposed to the risk of their own negative decisions.

If we had a free market they would have been gone, but sadly we don't.
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>>131172187
>implying modern banking has anything to do with free market economics
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>>131171516
>using pop culture to spread anti-capitalist ideas
>mfw
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>>131172276
>If we had a free market they would have been gone

what is cronyism and nepotism?
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>>131172276
M8 do you even understand what would have happened if they let the banks fail? I want you to tell me in detail what you think would have happened.
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>>131172228

A free press existing and being staffed by the enemies of the government who fill their subjects heads with lies to turn the population against it to leverage more power for themselves is not a tolerable situation, it's sovereignty which should belong to the government leaking and being captured by outside forces. it's an entropic process and needs to be brought under control.

Everything you think about is still in Democratic terms of "but what will these self appointed journalist faggots think about this?". the answer is it doesn't matter because they shouldn't have power in the first place.

>>131172411

A result of too much government.

>>131172435

If you're not willing to accept systemic risks, you don't have a proper system.
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>>131172407
It appears there's a market for the abolition of markets
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>>131172067
I bet she got turned on by Jahans' alpha intro
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>>131172435
russia post collapse of the USSR
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>>131172435

Why do you think supporting fragility in financial systems is good design practice?
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>>1311724352
2-3 years of big economic shock followed by a healthy recovery.
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>crpbyn at glastonbury

can't think of a more cringeworthy political happening. they just want free uni. all children of blair.
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>>131172115
Corporations are as close as we get to totalitarianism. Corporations are almost necessarily totalitarian. They cannot be influenced by those who work in them; the only thing preventing them from exploiting the workers further is the fact that the government prevents them from doing so.

They work in a strict hierarchy, with orders coming rom the top, directed down the rungs to those at the bottom, who are permitted to rent themselves in order to survive. This is called a "job".

CEOs get fired because they didn't provide the worst possible service to garner the highest possible profit, nothing to do with tyranny.

If you didn't have state power the externality, not often considered, of systemic risk would bring down the system repeatedly.
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>>131172656
>OH JEREMY CORBYN
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>>131172656
>complain about income inequality, poverty and much fat cats
>pay ÂŁ300+ to listen millionaires 'perform' for three days
really gets the noggin firing
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>>131172520
you don't sound very anarcho-capitalistic...and you think andrea leedsom is a legend.

you're a bumbling retard....the equivalent of a mangled teenager restricted to a diet of crushed apples and pears. Your mind has aquired dysfunctional and deformative symptoms and cannot mature properly on this diet.
Get out more.
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>>131170808
I was there when brexit was announced. It was beautiful lads, absolutely beautiful. People in bits everywhere, all the bands had something to say about how hate won't win and that Glastonbury keeps their faith in humanity. Such a good day
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>>131172656
Hate the idea of "free" unis

By the time you've graduated, you ought to be able to get a middle class job and pay off your own student debt. But that's not good enough, these people want the working class to chip in and pay some off for them
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>>131172835
none of them seem to care that more people are going to university now than when it was free.
surely this blows away their whole premise that free university means higher enrollment
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>>131172720

Sovereignty is total by definition as there is nothing which can challenge it.

The modern idea of totalitarianism is an out-growth of Democracy which changed the governing principle of legitimacy from the divine rule of monarchs to the general will and consent of "the people". The second your government's legitimacy is dependent upon "the people" you *instantly* have a situation where the incentives are to brainwash as many peasants as fast as possible to fill their heads with lies to trick them into supporting your government since that is the only way you stay in power. You will notice that the age of propaganda is also the Age of Democracy because the power was pushed out into the heads of the people and needed to be immediately re-captured. With a stable sovereign you don't need propaganda of this kind at all because it doesn't matter what your subjects think because their opinions are not politically consequential. You can call stable government "totalitarian" if you want, but that is just a slur. You really think Tudor England was "totalitarian"? If anything is totalitarian is the all pervasive idea that Democracy must be unchallenged.

>the only thing preventing them from exploiting the workers further is the fact that the government prevents them from doing so.

This isn't true, workers work better when they're treated better so it's in their incentive to keep them happy. Take a look at how Google treats its staff - it's the same way a little girl treats a little fuzzy bunny rabbit.
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>>131170456
Our public visionaries don't even have a plan for breakfast. I have zero confidence in any plan they might come up with for our future as a socialist nation.
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>>131172822

I'm an absolute monarchist.
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>>131173095
>>131173095
>I'm a cuck

why i even waste my time with this level of stupidity.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/24/ben-fogle-replace-school-17-conscription-type-work/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_fb_tmg

Foglereich when lads?
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>>131173053
Based.
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>>131173190
>Communist
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>>131167905
I'm that guy on welfare, coming off it in two weeks as I take on fulltime hours at deliveroo. Pol made me do it. It's time to repent and live righteously.
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Who /socialistmonarchist/ here?
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Any pictures of the football march in London?
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>>131168285
he didn't report the fire to the authorities.
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>>131167315
sick degenerate
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>>131173255
No one because we're not fucked in the head (except you and that staunch communist rat)
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>>131173246
>brainwashed by american political discourse because spend too much time on the internet where american culture is hegemonous


and its the immigrants that are killing british "culture"
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>>131173284
The hooligans have sharpened up a bit
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>>131170250
yh. that's how they get you. with half truths and a complete disregard for human nature.
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>>131167275
I don't understand your image. Do command economies not make decisions on the margin based on opportunity cost?
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>>131173247
>deliveroo
Even in my darkest hours, I never considered working for them.

May God have mercy on your soul.
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>>131173194
Citizenship should be dependent on service. People being able to vote when they have contributed fuck all to society is disgusting and has gotten us to where we are now.
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>>131173053
At least the people can conceivably influence the government through voting. They have no such influence on corporations, they are entirely at the mercy of the board of directors.

Corporations are currently busily engaged in brainwashing people into buying their product over some other competing product. This undermines the market, if you believe the market to be a well informed public making purchases rationally, while keeping the one part of the market the businesses like, that is, the accumulation of profit.

You mention a monarch, who is little different to a CEO. They might be benevolent, but why should they be? Why should they operate in the best interests of the nation, in fact, why should they be expected to understand the problems of the people?

Also, Tudor England wasn't stable. Rebellions occurred regularly, with a number having the potential to overthrow the monarch (the Pilgrimage of Grace could've marched on London if Aske and his men had the will to).

>This isn't true, workers work better when they're treated better so it's in their incentive to keep them happy. Take a look at how Google treats its staff - it's the same way a little girl treats a little fuzzy bunny rabbit.

Simultaneously, look at how workers are treated in societies without state protection of workers. Somewhere like China. Some workers are treated well, no doubt. If skills are in short supply it is in the best interest of a company to treat the people favourably.

However, look at low skilled jobs in these places such as sewing, or call centre working, or mining. That's where corporate tyranny takes you
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>>131170453
it's all going to be replaced with universal income which will be completely totalitarian.

Don't do it man, get a job, any job and embrace the discomfort. Not matter how enlightened you get during your time not working, it will not count for anything as you cannot prove that you're a hard worker.

Don't give up.
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>>131173588
>customers have no influence over a businesses practices
communists believe this
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See racists, the border force is working and preventing terrorists from entering the country

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/24/far-right-activists-detained-at-uk-border-before-britain-first-rally
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>>131173284
There was some Sikh speaking at a Londony footbally protesty thing

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bd9_1498315605
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>>131173533
Starship troopers eh?
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>>131173721
I said workers, not customers. In corporate tyranny they would have no ability to influence the company. The moment they attempt to they are fired.

The workers do effect business practices, and in an uncontrolled business environment it would lead to further exploitation, as people rush to sell things at lower and lower prices, paying workers less and less.
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>>131173837
>This was the tragic fallacy which brought on the decadence and collapse of the democracies of the twentieth century; those noble experiments failed because the people had been led to believe that they could simply vote for whatever they wanted… and get it, without toil, without sweat, without tears.
Indeed.
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>>131170453
you will also have to be independedly assessed, send off a self written needs assessment form. If you don't have a community psychiatric nurse you will be straight up overlooked. they're (white) taking people off welfare at an alarming rate
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>>131171889
a cleansing is what is needed and that is scary as fuck - Nigel is a great guy but the politically right in Britain need a good man who can get all the British on the political center and right behind him a charismatic guy who the people will follow and trust and who will be able to either break the political Establishment and expose them for being anti British and rebuild it - you need a Trump
but there will be ickyness and probable bloodshed because the left are violent as hell and because the poisoning of the whole of political establishment has gone on for so long - and the kiddies are being brainwashed - a cleansing lads that is what is needed
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>>131173777
Thanks lad, supposedly everyone is getting along together except for Chelsea and west ham
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How can you compete with corbyn ?
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disgusting. how could someone so sweaty face down the bungling brussels bureaucrats and get the best deal for britain?
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>>131174134
>except for Chelsea and west ham

kek
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>>131174310
I'd wager about no more than 20% of those pissheads vote
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>>131171218
Fucks sake mate, some of us are eating
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>>131174103
>a trump

Sorry m8 but as much as he's memed in here someone like trump wouldn't stand a chance in the uk, he's a moron let's be honest and would have the piss ripped out of him by left and right alike
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>>131171811
How fucking far is the delivery for it to cost 4 quid?
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>>131174103
>Britain needs a Trump
>didn't even get the popular vote
>still no wall
Just face it lad, there's no saving Britain or America, we've all been memed by the Jews.
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>>131174755
The more visible the problems become, the more the British people will get frustrated with our politicians. I can see there being a strong leader coming along in the next 5 - 10 years to deal with some of the issues
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>>131174755
Popular vote means shit in the presidential election. In fact our electoral system is designed to prevent someone like Hillary from winning. (Her popular vote win is only due to California going heavily towards her.)

And the key thing is Trump is going to put Conservative Court justices on the court. He has, and it looks like he will have 2-3 more.
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>>131174390
except that was the shock at the last election that 70% voted
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>>131174333
They will most likely kick off later tonight
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>>131175556
NEW THREAD
>>131175556
NEW THREAD
>>131175556
NEW THREAD
>>131175556
NEW THREAD
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>>131170082
>I want to cum in her mouth

What did he mean by this?
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For those wondering where Tim Farron disappeared

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-40392639/meet-the-milkmen-of-glastonbury
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>hate how they are trying to push politics into music

IT AIN'T ME
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