Fallacy in European identity

>>131161398
>This Islam/Christianity thing is pretty new.

Crusades. Reconquista.

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The Byzantian Emprie was a Greek Christian empire. Their offspring, the Greek Orthodox still live in Syria today. But they are somehow less Western than an Estonian who speaks an Asiatic language and just recently embraced Christianity.

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>>131161616

Those things are not Europe specific. They wanted the holy land back. Estonia was still pagan at that time.

The Moos took Spain, sure. But they took all of North Africa before that. Southern FRANCE was where it stopped.

Why wont /pol ever answer this question?

>>131161398

Many europeans kings were descendants of Charlmagne and other germanic (Suevi, Visigoths, Lombards) linneages that received land from Rome in it´s dying years.
But very specifically Charlmagne that mobilized the west after the western empire fell, he also became protector of the pope wich would lead to the schism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne#Marriages_and_heirs

>Marriages and heirs
>Charlemagne had eighteen children with eight of his ten known wives or concubines.[115] Nonetheless, he had only four legitimate grandsons, the four sons of his fourth son, Louis. In addition, he had a grandson (Bernard of Italy, the only son of his third son, Pippin of Italy), who was illegitimate, but included in the line of inheritance. Among his descendants are several royal dynasties, including the Habsburg, Capetian and Plantagenet dynasties.

>>131163583

So? How does it make an Estonian who comes from Asiatic tribesmen more Roman than an Arab who comes from a line of Roman Emperors?

At least admit that there is a great fallacy in all of this identity politics. Merging modern EU with ancient Rome.

>>131163784

Estonia and Finland had no kings of their own what makes them share the culture is mostly because they are christians.
And the magyars and bulgarians to since they fougth hard for europe in many wars.
Even the ancient greeks that had strict immigration laws allowed immigrants that made heroic deeds for their host full rights.

>>131164574

But that is nowhere close to what the Middle East and North Africa shared with ancient Rome and Greece. Why are they seen as less Roman and Greek today? There aren't even any Greek and Roman ruins in Estonia and Finland!

Islam should not be an obstacle, cause of the large population of Greek orthodox in Syria today.

>>131161398
> like you choose a modern day identity and force it on to a historical context.
This is actually a big problem nowadays, I wish people would stop doing it.

>>131164778

They aren´t christian like the romans, they speak arab, they build ugly minaretes...