My life (hell) in italy

>>131148841
the whole world is cucked, it was always been this way

cucked by royalty, by jews, by religion, this world is just one big spirilling fractal of repeting cuckness

Go back to romania.

>>131148841

when did it all go so wrong, Italy? can you identify a point in recent history at which this current mindset took hold? sounds like you're being dominated by unchecked, drunken, anti-human, totalitarian bureaucracy!

Don't worry italybro.

The world is cucked.

In the gospel it says the end days will be so insane, the few of us who speak the truth will be labeled crazy heretics. That is habbening right now.

Read the book, get some weapons, get fit, build your own sick car, and try impregnate a bitch. What I'm doing with my life in the system of the devil.

>>131148841
I'm from Greece. Things are even worse here. Lets get out of the EU and form our own union. Let west and east Rome unite.

>>131148841
But your IQ is like 110 on average. Highest in the non asian non fake jew world. People die. Hospitals are covered. Debt is a little high. Not as high as japan. A beautiful country that can't ever "feel" old because it is nicknamed eternal. Hank scorpio. The simpsons. Nobody ever picks italy. Italy and ugly are oxymoron. Based civil law system. A little corrupt. Great weather. Men dont have lots of expectations or pussy whip behaviours. Live and let live. Women are not uppity. Beautiful cars and beaches and fashion. Go enjoy it. Im stuck in a materialistic dump

god it feels good to be the master of the EU

>>131148841
hey man. my whole extended family excluding me and my siblings are italy-born and they all moved out for the reasons you just listed. i recommend that you come to australia and get a trade. it's good money and there is a healthy italian community in the sydney area. lots of chinese though. despite that, if you assimilate and treat everyone with respect, you will have a great time here. just stay out of western sydney if you can. godspeed.

>>131149586
What a terrible decision

>>131148841
90% of the things you listed are bullshit but there's some truth to them

>>131148841
yo mario I'm coming to italy this summer for some ficki ficki and sightseeing. any advices? (other than killing myself or not coming ofc)

>>131148841
>2008
So. The one berlusconi won? What are you talking about? When was Renzi's first win? Like 2014? Why am i reading this garbage

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>>131148841

>>131149822
>When was Renzi's first win?
Never technically, not only because he's a loser but also because he never participated in an election... the current government was elected in 2012 though

>>131148841
>they are planning to increase school time to cover all summer

why the fuck would they want that?
not even the teachers wanna work during such heat.

summer break is the best because it means that all normies are gone (hopefully dead in a ditch and never return) and you can just take it easy and embrace dolce vita.

>>131149731
kill yourself roach

>>131148841
travel to sweden and throw your passport if you are dark skinned enough to pass as a refugee

>>131148841

>they are planning to introduce uncontrolled free citizenship for "refugees"

the worst by far.

>>131148841
>anti-vac

You had terminal autism long before you got your first injection.

Most of the things are the same in France bro

>>131148841

>last elected government was in 2008
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_general_election,_2013

???

>>131149822
He's just a retard that don't understand parliamentary democracy

>>131148841
Faggot. Unemployment is bad agree, but Italy has one if the highest life life expectancies in the world.

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shitalian """"""men"""""" are natural cowards who give their women to Romanians and Africans

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>>131149586
You fuckin traitor dog

>>131150863
HURR DURR WE DON'T ELECT OUR LEADER AND IT'S GOOD

>>131149448
Master of the EU is like King of the Cuckshed.

And that is why America will always be the shining beacon of the world.

>>131149207
> can you identify a point in recent history at which this current mindset took hold?

yes, it was 1968.
- it created eternal children incapable of educating their own children
- libertinism didn't liberate man but made it slave of his own vices
- a degree and a job were seen as a right for anyone even the dumb and dishonest
- sexual revolution destroyed families and imposed sex at the center of our lives

t. Italian expat

>>131151097
im still unemployed

>>131151112

I've come to a similar conclusion.

>>131151148

How?

>>131151112
One day , we the italian diaspora will make italy great again

>>131151052
Hurr durr I don't understand how different forms of government work

>>131151189

I may be American by birth, but I've got Italian blood, I would fight many meme wars to see Italy Great Again.

>>131150997
what the fuck is the flag with the star and the red white and blue stripes?

>underage b&

>>131150551
That government failed, that was the year democracy ended and they started deciding for us without elections

>>131150889
High Life expectancy for 50+ years old maybe, if you were born in recent decades your life is shit and you will die sooner

>>131151254
I understand how our system works, I'm just saying it' S H I T

>>131150208
The world needs Hitler.

>>131149448
The real masters are the people in Brussels and your fuhrer. You and your nation's people will never rule the EU, their masters will.
The Emperor in Rome ruled all of the Mediterranean world, yet did the Jew, Gaul, or Greek rule? Did the Jewish, Gaulic, or Greek people rule? No, it was the Emperor, the Senate, and the Generals.
It will never change unless the EU changes by it's own whim.

The biggest regret in my life is that i went to the liceo classico
DON'T DO IT AND DON'T MAKE YOUR CHILDREN DO IT
The only thing i can do is winning a concorso pubblico since i can't enlist in the military or in the Police because of stupid allergies that would not impact my work aniway

>>131149445
Where are you, fag?

>>131151363
Then start a constitutional referendum and change it instead of shitposting on a chinese origami board. Untill then, we vote for a party and not for a man. Renzi did a pretty bad job but saying shit like illegitimate government is retarded.

>>131151566
>caring about which highschool you went to
how to spot a underage fuck 101

>>131151566
What languages do you speak ?
Have you ever thought about importing italian food ?
Parmigiano costs 39€/kg here

>>131151703
Learning a trade or becoming a programmer would have been way better for a career
if you think the liceo is useful you are the underage one

>>131148841
>>you have to register a "partita iva" to work on your own, it means taxes are 4000€ + 21% + mafia tribute, if you don't have money you can't even start a lemonade stand, and there's some jobs you literally can't do (microjobs, online jobs) because taxes would be more than revenues

So just work under the table and tell the government to fuck themselves.

>>131148841
Half of it is fake and the other half it's overly exaggerated.
For example you don't need a partita iva if you make less than 5k x year and it's free to make one if you are under 30 years old.

>>131151523
yes, meanwhile, check out these for great lulz
https://vid.me/gXss
https://vid.me/dnjS
https://vid.me/HuRL

>>131151700
The Republic is illegitimate
The Italian republic lost the referendum to the monarchy
USA forced republic upon us
The republic does not represent the italian people interests and it does not protect our people, race and culture

>>131151773
Learning german and applying for jobs as we speak
Once i get some savings i could do something like that
But where i live we are overtaxed

>>131151844
>>>131151703 (You)
>Learning a trade or becoming a programmer
well they are things you can still do now. Don't underestimate the value of a classical education. btw
>muh le coding is the future meme

>>131151844
If you attend a liceo you are supposed to go on to university, of course it's useless if you don't

>>131151955
ah yes the italian royals very good people who basically became killers and drug smugglers after being exiled

>>131151955
This is true, the constitution is illegitimate

>>131152029
What minorities are in your country.
Are there any good minorities?

>>131148841
really liked it in Rome might go live there some day, at least for some stretch of time

>>131151700
Still better than our presidents
Maybe not Moro

>>131151354
Life expectancy is calculated regarding people born today not people born 50 years ago

>>131149699
Quote this.

>>131151844
I went to itis-informatica and i regretted it a lot while i was in university. Every one coming from liceo type school (both classico and scientifico) had a way easyer time than me. Also I am studying most of the things they did now on my own after graduating because i realized how important they are (i rrally wish i had time to study greek and latin too).

>>131152167
Shit tier: Gypsies, Maghrebis,Niggers

Shit but less than shit : Albanians, Romanians

Meh tier:: Chineese

>>131149247
this

>>131151566

> Liceo classico

That's like a grammar school/general lycee/gymnasium right?

feels good to receive 500€+house/month for doing nothing

now i know why niggers want to come here from italy

>>131151955
Yeah the Savoia did a really good job protecting the italian interest when they gave half the country to the kraut. They absolutely had Italian interest in mind when left 600k soldiers with no orders at the will of Hitler and ran away with that Badoglio faggot.
In a not meme country he would've been executed for high treason.

>>131152398
It's a lyceum where you study less math and more humanistic shit, it's basically high school for girls, also you study ancient greek and latin, literally a waste of time

>>131151853
Yes because online work and online payment is not automatically controlled

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>>131152408
I receive more than that a fortnight for not doing anything.

>>131148841
If you don't vaccinate your children not only should they be taken from you but you should be put in jail.

Stupid Alex Jones larper moron

>>131152459
Yes that is true.
The savoia are also illegitimate imo
But we still weren't ready for democracy

Also the current politicians are giving our country and sovreignity to the EU

>>131148841
>>sanitary service is shit, people die for stupid things in the hospitals and you don't even have the right to cure yourself

Aha, it all makes sense now. Europe encourages risky young behavior so that you end up in a (((hospital))), then the fix is in and "everyone saw you had it coming".

>>131152469

Yeah, same shit here. Called gymnasium. You have three 3 modules.
1. Natural sciences/math module
2. Humanities-social sciences
3. General( both in one)

I was on that humanities meme, did nothing except read Tolstoy and literature and history. Math by the year 4 was twice a week.

I'm now relearning math to go to Comp Sci, I learned Latin, English and French but not Greek.

Io studio l'italiano. :^)

>>131152499
It's not. Set up a foreign account or just take Bitcoin.

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>>131150993
what a generalization you must be one of them lobotomized mongoloids

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>>131152569
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-153722/Mercury-flu-vaccine-linked-autism.html

The mercury that is currently being removed from all vaccines, was in use for over a decade

>governments lov me an treat me good right guys

>>131148841
Italy is pretty industrialized and rich. Are you sure you're just not blaming the country for your own failures? Unless you're a STEM graduate you really don't have a right to complain.

>>131152469
I want to add that while I loved the education, being 4 men in a class of women really made me hate them
Vipers between them and vipers with us
The only ones that were okay were the ones we were fucking

>>131152741
The euro fucked our industry

>>131151148
thats because your an unskilled retarded loser, go work at McDonalds faggot

>>131152742
Oh you poor guy

>>131149699
this guy is right

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>>131148841
No rapefugees here, plenty of jobs and none of your bullshit.
We are full but feel free to send some QTs my way.

>>131151545
go back commie

>>131148841
>go to southern Italy
>get turned into a slave by the mafia
How is Italy even considered western?

>>131152811
>the Savoia are illegitimate
>the Republic is illegitimate
pls don't tell you are a neoborbonico. It's literally the we wuz kang and shiet of the south

>>131152741
Trust me
It's not as good as it seems to be
I found myself safer with literal delinquents

>>131152742
>being 4 men in a class of women
Being almost the only guy in a room full of hot Italian girls must be amazing, my life sucks.

>>131152961
No lol the borbons are memes

>italian regarding thread
>no bestemmie
Smh

>>131149586

Neck yourself cunt

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>>131152922
is Romania western? I always thought you guys lived like Indians because you look like them

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>>131152922
>Be romania
>Be a third world shithole
>Be used to make satyrical movies about Kazakhstan
>Nobody sees a difference

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ywzQectJ_P0

>>131152741
>computer science graduate graduate
>look for work in italy
> a lot of request but the starting pay is on average 1200/1400 euros x month
>move to Austria to have a quick look
>istantly find a job that gives me 2.1k x month plus bonuses
and my colleagues explained to me that it's even slightly underpaid for Austrian standards (but it comes with a lot of benefits and great work environment).

A lot of my friends went to work in germany, hungary, Ireland or the netherlands.
Only the really incapable to speak english and in general bad at their job stayed in italy

>>131148841
fucking hell, this is all bullshit
just because your school was shit it doesn't mean that you have to complain about the whole country.
and ius soli doesn work that way

>>131151566
I arrived in Italy as an expat but when I switched from the international system and started going to Italian high school, I picked the linguistic lyceum. It was easy as shit for me and although there is a case to be made for the scientific lyceum to be the most "useful", I would argue the maths curriculum was taken no less seriously by my teacher. It literally doesn't matter what high school you went to if you plan on going to an Italian university anyway. You might just get a slight head depending on what you choose to study.

I was in a similar boat to >>131152742 but thankfully most of the girls were alright.

>>131148841
Do a morning workout, I heard it cures insomnia

>>131153178
You can't bestemmiare with this shit tier language. And this is an english board so it's polite to speak it

>>131153305
Try switzerland if you can

>>131151566
i went to a scientific lyceum, let me tell you something
unless you're prepared to bust your ass into oblivion for the next 10 years don't go there, but fuck me, it was useful, i am more prepared than others who did a different kind of lyceum.
OP probably went to ITIS or IPSIA

>>131153666
ITIS can be as hard as a scientific lyceum if you go to a decent one like the one in my city, the ones in the province are literally ipsia tier

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>>131153193
>the shart is also a moron
Well no surprise there.
I bet you can't read fast.
>>131153224
Welcome to Napoles, the city of garbage and mafia.

>>131153824
But at the end, Borat picked Romania, really makes you think

>>131153781
the ITIS near my town has a reputation for being that place where the lazy trash goes, even if yours was different i wouldn't call it as hard as a scientific one, you don't know real pain until you start 5th year mathematics, man, i don't miss it at all

>>131153824
welcome to bucarest, demesne of king bruce lee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwadpGdskCM

>>131148841
Terrone detected. Besides "partita IVA", the other points are not as bad as you say. Get your vaccines and stfu

>>131148841
>compulsory vaccines (not only the reccomended and safe ones, all of them). if you don't comply they take away your children
Good. Anti-Vaxxers are retards and children should be taken away from them.

>>131153899
>you don't know real pain until you start 5th year mathematics
the itis and scientific mathematics programs are more or less the same, I think itis has more subjects but less focused on theory
anyway it really gets down to where you did go to school, I've met people who went to a shit lyceum and didn't know jack shit about mathematics

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>>131153441
In anglo culture they are not creative blasphemous as we did. "hell" is already considered a profanity!
They just say "holy shit" "goddamnit" and a few others.
A good porco dio is not easily translated.

>>131153974
Stop generalizing exceptions!
No one is taking you seriously.

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>>131148841
oh look, another story about boots stomping on the human face

>don't you wish you had guns?

>>131154082
probably, yeah
>>131154085
>damage control

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>>131148841
>muh vaccines
stopped reading at the second line

>>131148841
>>sanitary service is shit, people die for stupid things in the hospitals and you don't even have the right to cure yourself
are you in southern italy

>>131153666
Nice try, devil!

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>>131154045
what scandal .
>everyone known without VAX there would be no civilization as we know it

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>>131154438
i'm trying to give you advice anon

>>131154478
I lol'd

All of you, move to the US. We're gonna be the last stand against the caliphate. The niggers here will be exterminated in a day when Hitler 2.0 inevitably rises up. Europe is lost.

shitaly really is a shithole
worst fucking neighbour of all time

>>131154592
>We're gonna be the last stand against the caliphate
the caliphate is already dying at the hands of the local armies
you fucking americans have been fucking up secular muslim countries and turned them into fundamentalist shithols
it's all your fault

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>>131154741
deal with it

>>131148841
>you only find work by nepotism
Romanians went to Italy with 200euros in their pockets and now run their businesses there.

>>131154852
jesus christi, "that" fucking shitalo-manlet is now role-playing as a fascist
do you have any idea how pathetic you are?

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>>131154890
i'm pretty sure you don't, every romanian i know works for my father

>>131154793
Geez, tell me more about how the US interfered in the Iranian Revolution!

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>>131154955
oh my, i struck a nerve

>>131154741
this nigger wants his Tyrol back

>>131149586
Fuck off.

>>131148841
>they are planning to increase school time to cover all summer
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>131154981
I personally met Romanians that own their own business in Romania, mostly small construction companies.

>complaining about herd immunity
are you dumb

>>131148841
This is what leftism gets you, folks.

And then the EU will turn around and call you PIGS for it.

>>131155312
good for them, stay in romania though

>>131154741
You are literally the only nation that got btfo by the Italian army. Really makes you think

>>131155696
They're making big bucks in Italy so no.

>>131148841
>Shitaly is more cucked than sweden my friends
>>compulsory vaccines (not only the reccomended and safe ones, all of them). if you don't comply they take away your children

You're not going to send your unvaccinated child to school with mine, Grillo. Fucking deal with it.

>>4th non elected government, last elected government was in 2008

This meme needs to fucking die. The people DO NOT ELECT THE GOVERNMENT. Read the fucking constitution. Article 92.

>>unemployment is over 60% for <25yo and everything is underpaid unless you're +40yo
>hurr durr life is hard

>>you only find work by nepotism, like, in the family. Not even networking or friends
Maybe if you're an unskilled faggot looking for a job in moving crates.

>>you have to register a "partita iva" to work on your own, it means taxes are 4000€ + 21% + mafia tribute, if you don't have money you can't even start a lemonade stand, and there's some jobs you literally can't do (microjobs, online jobs) because taxes would be more than revenues
Yeah, our taxes suck. What does it have to do with being cucked?

>>sanitary service is shit, people die for stupid things in the hospitals and you don't even have the right to cure yourself
Our healthcare is some of the best in the world, unless you live in Naples.

>>131156086

>I suffer from insomnia, they prescribed me xanax (tip: it doesn't cure insomnia). I looked online and found an experimenal cure called prebiotics from uk
>Oh sorry, it's illegal to buy medicines online
Oh yeah, we should allow any idiot to buy any medicine online and fuck himself up now.

>>schools don't teach shit, teachers are underpaid and shitty, I spent 90% of my time in school doing literally nothing and waiting. we are one of the most uneducated population in europe yet it's mandatory. Schools became just a timesink to keep youngs from flowing in the job market until they are mid 20
Again, terrone detected.

>>it's now compulsory to attend "work projects" in the summer if you go to school, it consist in you going to a place and wait until you can go home, they don't teach or make you do anything
We have two school boys at our workplace trough this program and we're teaching them what programming is like in the real world.
Just because YOU had a bad experience doesn't mean it's the same everywhere.

>>they are planning to increase school time to cover all summer
>hurr durr poor me I won't have 3 months of free time anymore and I will be like literally every other person who isn't in school

>>they are planning to introduce uncontrolled free citizenship for "refugees"
Blatantly false.

In short, kill yourself.

>>131149207
When allied forces landed on Sicily

>>131156086
anti-vaxxer are the best thing ever happened to society. It's the nature finding a way to cull the unfit despite our technological advancements.
We just need to group them in some island and leave them die alone.

>>131152092
Do the Bonaparte still have a claim as king of Rome ?

>>131156432

The problem is that they fuck things up for people who really can't get vaccinated because of legitimate reasons like allergies.

If we could deport them all on a secluded island I'd be fine with them not getting vaccines.

>>131152994
No it's not, I had a lyceum class with 50% women and it was unsustainable
Those petty bitches spit on each other for good grades

>>131156094
Alcuni punti te li concedo, ho descritto la mia esperienza personale non quella oggettiva
Per il resto go back to votare pd

>>131156756

I honestly can't decide whether to vote PD or Lega.

Salveenee is the only one who could possibly do something about immigration, but Renzi is the only one who managed to get our economy somewhat back on its feet.

>>131148841

A FUCKING WOP.

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>>131148841
J U S T

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>>131157088
you prefer a fucking wok ?

>>131148841
The last two ones are just lies, go back reading salveenee's posts frocio

>>131157404
And the others have just some true parts

>>131148841
>all those moronic complaints

You're problem isn't living in Italy, you're problem is that you're painfully stupid.

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>>131149247
Tell me where you live so I can put you out of your paranoia and schizophrenia.

>>131156977
>Renzi is the only one who managed to get our economy somewhat back on its feet
What?

>>131148841
t. pasquale esposito

>>131149207
2 dates:
1st: Unification of Italy (1861)
2rd: Adoption of the Euro (1999)

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>>131148961
>religion
Not Christianity lol

>>131158824
nah the unification was good, Europe is already a clusterfuck because WWII had the wrong winners

Italy was one the countries with the highest economic growth in the early 20th century up to WWII
still mad they fucked the invasion of Egypt and fucking (modern) GREECE. they even got pushed back into Albania. Seriously, how?

Anyway, I wish modern Italy all the best. A powerful Italy is mandatory for a powerful Europe.

>>131154045
>Anti-Vaxxers
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
"Anti-Vaxxers" do not exist. It is a term invented by paid pseudo-scientific journalists to discredit anyone who hinder the profit of vaccine producers.

>>131148841
wew

>>131148841
Half of the things he wrote are wrong don't listen to him

>>131149247
>build your own sick car

Illegal in Italy

>>131152741
since the 90s a process of deindustralization and privatization started.

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>>131157355
Shitalian cücks BTFO

>>131156977
> Renzi is the only one who managed to get our economy somewhat back on its feet.

Maybe in an alternative timeline

> I honestly can't decide whether to vote PD or Lega.

How can you be undecided about two parties with opposite priorities?

What about fratelli d'italia, italanons?

>>131156086
>Grillo
Hey, Maybe he is from Bolzano.

>>131158456

He unironically did.

>>131163320
>How can you be undecided about two parties with opposite priorities?

Because I'm not an autistic memelord and I can see both sides' arguments?
Lega might be right wing in regards to immigration, but they would probably want EVEN MORE regulation on business which is definitely something Italy doesn't need.

PD is (ironically) more capitalist, and the deregulations they brought on DID help the economy.

On the other hand, PD is full of virtue signalling cucks who want more refugees, constantly defend muh poor gipsies and wanna make it easier for foreign nationals to gain Italian citizenship.

It's not all black and white.

>>131165129
>It's not all black and white.

This time, I will vote exclusively on the topic of the ius soli.

That's why I am oriented to vote for fratelli d'italia, since I dislike lega nord (because of tanzanian diamonds) and m5s doesn't have a clear position on the topic.

Why it sounds like russia?
t. russian

>>131165129
>PD is (ironically) more capitalist
There is nothing ironic about it. Do you even know the principles of destra sociale? They oppose communism as much as they oppose capitalism and liberalism.

>>131152994
nah dude, they're teenage girls. if you put ~20 teenage girls in the same room 5-6 hours a day, they're going to start fighting eachother for dominance. The same happens with teenage boys, really. The difference is that guys are much more upfront about it. They're going to beat eachother up and bully the weaker ones, but in the end they're all bros. Girls are much more subtle, but borderline evil. Tey'll often do their best to hinder the others' academic performances.
I went to liceo scientifico, and it was the best. About 2:1 male to female ratio, so no dumb rivalries. We all were bros, almost noone got bullied and in the end we all helped eachother with school stuff.