how do you feel about New Age religion?

Religion shouldn't be what's convenient, its about truth and falsehood.

>>131147505
>making a religion that units people thinking gays should be thrown off buildings, people thinking that tolerance is the most important thing, people thinking that torturing animals is funny, people that don't think.
Yeah, good luck with that.

>>131147564
>its about truth and falsehood.

so then that eliminates abrahamic religion?

truth and falsehood is logically deducible with little assumption. New age religion is much closer to the ideal. It assumes almost nothing and builds from pure conscious.

>>131148107
Creating a religion from scratch is meaningless because it will always be false, unless you really are a prophet from God. You have to look at world religion and use facts/logic/science to determine what you think is truth.


>New age religion is much closer to the ideal. It assumes almost nothing and builds from pure conscious.

It sounds like you are look at religion as a social tool not something that is categorically the truth of the Universe or not.

>>131147505
So, religious globalism

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the new world order one world religion from the bible is a good thing! i need my mark of the beast pls

good goy

perfectly programmed

>>131147505
Pope is a communist faggot

>>131147505
literally book of revelations prophecy

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>>131147505
worst pope ever, fucking die already so we can get a real one in power

>>131147505
The Pope is an Argie Commie. Although Christians, Muslims, and Jews all do worship the same God, religions like Hinduism and Shinto don't even worship just one God, and Buddhism has an odd view on God.

>>131149239
Muslims and Jews do not worship the Christian God

>>131147505
great idea or watering down all religions make it bunch of folklore and festivals and stories and that it

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>>131147505
If you don't worship the cross, you will die.

Join the Orthodox master race. The only real form of Christianity.

>>131149337
It's the God of Abraham. Each religion has differing beliefs, but our God is the same.

>>131147820
its one of the prophecies about the end times and the satanic antichrist

proof the catholic church is evil.

it will achieve its goal by accepting Jesus being put in the corner

>>131147505
This new pope is a cock-hungry faggot and I hope God strangles him in his sleep.

>>131149239
If God makes all things manifest through His Will, then the expansive animism of eastern and many pagan cultures merely separates the Universal Will into multiple separate acts and identifies in each a mood or essence associated with the act.

Pantheons are more difficult to reconcile than nonpersonified religious concepts.

>>131149395
well fucking said

>>131149451
Christians worship Jesus Christ who is LORD

Muslims and Jews do not

>>131149435

>join the orthodox master race
>posts picture of Catholic crusader that decimated the Orthodox Empire

Templarfags everyone

>>131149584
Moron

>>131148409
>"it's not true unless a prophet says it is"
>It sounds like you are look at religion as a social tool not something that is categorically the truth of the Universe or not.

Believing in prophets is "social-tool"-tier. It's way too amenable to bias and corruption.

>>131149435
>join the roleplaying master race
DEUS VULT fellow pede take back the holy land let those feminazis and mudslimes try and stop us amirite

>>131149688
I'm correct

>>131149464
>proof the catholic church is evil.
Why are Proddies still spewing centuries old conspitard BS at Catholics? Don't you guys have more pressing matter than our pope being a flaming faggot? He's far from being the first terrible Pope you know...

>>131149584
do you literally have zero thinking capacity?

>>131147505
It'll just split off into something else once a large enough group of people disagree with it and then there will be war just like with any other major concept.

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>>131147505

Philosophically all monotheistic religions worship the same good, though I highly doubt that the dogma of each can make them come along as one for example Islam denying trinity, Jeus Christ sacrifice on the cross and him being the son of good being no more than a prophet, did not pay for the sins of mankind with his blood to make people able to rejoice with god again.

Furthermore Islam is a wicked ideology in some regards promising people what Christians believe to be the cardinal sins after death in their "heaven". It makes people complicit to evil e.g. suicide attacks also Muhammed was a very questionable founding father and his fruit brought a lot of terror to this world, though a lot of people who live a god fearing and modest life. To this day I still ask myself whether Islam is the invention of the devil - literally. Showing our heavenly father that one can corrupt people and gain control over them praising terror as virtue.

Muhammeds commands literally brought degeneracy, illness and weakness to this world, spiritually and physically e.g. 1. cousin marriage. But then again Muhammed was being used by more powerful people for their interest. May god show mercy for his soul and the innocents who died due to his words.

>>131149886
Here's a helpful video
https://youtu.be/lpc4ygCQePM

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>>131149850
if they were Christian they would follow the bible and the word of God, they specifically do not.

They teach about hell and suffering, they teach about saints and worship the bible tells us not to do, masonic rituals and symbols, moved the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday as a display of its power and the list goes on.

Read a bible and the catholic lies become plain as day.

>>131147505

Never forget that the "Jesuits" brought the witch burning to this world and the terror of the inquisition.

>all religions worship the same demiurge!

>>131147505
I honestly think some day in a 100+ years the NWO can be possible and organized fairly without bloodshed. The world religions would have to be reformed and melded together if the NWO is communistic.
I hope the NWO is more Libertarian in nature and religion is openly just take it or leave it.

>>131147505
I think it's a crappy idea. Not only do several religions include teachings against other religions, but more importantly, worshipping an all-powerful god gets people used to the idea that there must always be some form of higher authority above them.
This is why christianity and judaism were always popular among slaves and thralls, while religions that also accept free spirits (for example the djinn in islam or pretty much all gods in shinto or pagan religions) have always been popular among free, warlike cultures.

Besides, christianity itsself acepts that there are religions worshipping other gods and denounces those gods ("thou shalt not have other gods before me", not "there are no other gods"). So if this pope seriously believes that all religions worship the same god, I'd recommend him to at least read the ten commandments if not the entire bible.

>>131150000
It doesn't matter what the day of worship is btw, only 7th day Adventists think it does

t. Baptist

>>131147505
HERESY! Each society has its own word for HERESY!

Communists called all HERESY! fascism.

Fascist Italy called all HERESY! Communism.

Today, the Politically Correct tyranny calls HERESY! "Hate!"

They call people who speak HERESY! names.

You Political Correctness fanatics are playing a very old game.

When you scream HERESY! aka Hate! at people who disagree with you, it says nothing about the point we make.

But it tells us ALL about YOU ANTI-WHITES.

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>>131149019
>>131149484
>"muh revelation"

If you created a myth, you would naturally create a "dangerous" warning that would happen if you let go of the myth. It scares your limbic system from ever challenging the myth.

the quran does the same thing. it's so obvious and yet you guys fall for it. every. fucking. time.

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>>131150107
people who join the nwo pledge to lucifer and go to hell u retard

if you say its a good thing something you look forward to , you are the definition of good goy

>>131147505
Come on cathcucks, when are you going to stab this faggot in the back?

>>131150222
worshipping your race is idolatry

>>131147505
it only helps islam's narrative

>>131150139
the bible says it matters, we should strive to follow the old traditions, the forgetting of them is a ploy by the satanic cults

>>131150139
very profound video, made me realize I'm wasting my time

>>131150233
Bergoglio eats diapers

>>131150000
Nice quads but the only true Catholic nations left are third world countries, which means this religion is powerless. Cut your Protestant BS.

The Pope,the leader of the Church is a heretic.
Such shame.He will burn in hell for eternity.

>>131150353
Glad you agree, I like it because of its concise to the point no nonsense explanation

>>131147505
>No more hate
I think I read something about this in revalations..

>>131150474
Oh right yeah, it doesn't end well.

>>131150326
Scripture never mentions any Sabbath (Saturday) gatherings by believers for fellowship or worship. However, there are clear passages that mention the first day of the week, Sunday. For instance, Acts 20:7 states that “on the first day of the week we came together to break bread.” Paul also urges the Corinthian believers, “On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income” (1 Corinthians 16:2). Since Paul designates this offering as “service” in 2 Corinthians 9:12, this collection may have been linked with the Sunday worship service of the Christian assembly. Historically, Sunday, not Saturday, was the normal meeting day for Christians in the church, and its practice dates back to the first century.

Christians worship on Sundays in celebration of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is very important to remember, though, Sunday worship is not commanded in the Bible, and Sunday has not replaced Saturday and become the Christian Sabbath. While the New Testament describes Christians gathering and worshipping on Sundays, it nowhere states that Sunday has replaced Saturday as the Sabbath. They key point in all of this is that we are not to limit our worship to any particular day of the week. We are to rest in the Lord every day. We are to worship the Lord every day.

>>131150283
If "anti-racists" are so unconcerned with race, how come they only have a problem with White schools, White workplaces, White towns, White Cites and White countries?

I've never seen any "anti-racist" complain that any place is too Brown and it has to become LESS Brown to combat racism.

Who do they think they are kidding?

Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.

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>>131150326
>the bible says it matters, we should strive to follow the old traditions

I love this line. the bible and the quran bring it up all the time.

God goes to a paganistic people and decries that they "never think" and "just follow the customs of their ancestors". But when his religion becomes predominant in a land, all of a sudden it's BAD to challenge your ancestor's beliefs. but they're literally doing the same fucking thing. Muslims and christians are just following the traditions of their ancestors.

"I am a jealous god"
"there are no other gods"

But but

>>131150612
idc lol
Worshipping your race is still idolatry

the nwo is babylon times 1000000

and we all now how they ended up

>>131150680
In your opinion, I'm "worshipping [my] race."

You're only saying that because I'm white.

Anti-"worshipping your race" is a code word for anti-white.

>>131150646
There's a difference between man made tradition and the tradition of the Bible

The quaran falls into man made tradition

>>131147505
This has got to be one of the most heretical popes to have ever poped

Can some catholic fags name a more heretical pope or is this guy just about the peak heresy for the church?

>>131150474
>I think I read something about this in revalations..
>"revalations"

lol, that speaks volumes. it's like you forgot the part where babies will play with snakes. and deer will lie with lions. That's actually the good ending. No more hate.

>>131149584
Amen.

>>131150646
its not bad to challenge but to challenge does not always result in drastic and dramatic change, I challenged the current beliefs and found/re-discovered the old ones and when I compared them the old ones were better

>>131150768
If some brown guy or Asian person was talking about how his race were superior I would rebuke him

But it's most often heard from whites with a persecution complex and an obsession with people who look like them

Ok, then we are fighting on whose interpretation of God is correct, it's still the same shit, YOU HAVEN'T SOLVED ANYTHING YOU RETARD, YOU'RE JUST UNDERMINING CHRISTIANITY

And people still follow this moron

>>131150254
It really boils down to personal belief. In your world that's true of me, in mine it's not. I'm not going to hell, I'm already here.

>>131150823

Of whom is jealous god if there are no other gods besides him?

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>>131150791
catholic church was a satanic deception from day 1 in 325 ad

it doesnt get "more heretical" as if it was one time legitimate, no its always a outright hoax

>>131147505
How about they just all leave religion. If people can not grow out of imaginary things like ghosts, gods and unicorns than they can just fuck off. Religion is making the world dumber every day.

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wasnt the illuminati plan or the plan of the antichrist to unite the world under a single new religion? here we go

>>131150883
Muslims worship demons
Jews worship a female God

>>131150845
You come to a place full of white people and complain that white people want to survive instead of being wiped away in a sea of brown, black and yellow. How does that make sense, Anon.? You're silly. :^)

>>131150918
*tips*

>>131150931

But there are no other gods, how can there bea female god?

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>>131150852
no its a fact the new world order is coming to this earth and only believers in christ will be saved

you can change now

>>131147505
The elites are trying to establish the New World Order. A one world religion is dangerous, because no matter how conniving the propaganda other people will choose their preferred religion. It will only cause more wars.

>>131147505
They were coming up with new religion plenty of times already, but it never ended with all people having one belief, but just added +1 religion to all religions pool therefore increasing number of factions do fight.

>>131150846
>YOU'RE JUST UNDERMINING CHRISTIANITY

but how? christianity was always a greco-roman front to destroy fascist religion.

It destroyed judaism. And now it will destroy all religions by claiming universality under one pope. This is literally what Christianity does best.

>>131150972
This meme is so stupid. Someone tells the obvious truth about religion? Oh, just like make him tip his fedora. Then we don't have to argue with him.

"All religions of the world worship the same good.
Oh by the way that god is ours. Here: buy your kids 1st communion, one marriage and funeral at a discount price for a limited time only and receive 2 Christ pendants for free."

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>>131147505

OK.
Find me an Emprah

>>131151082
>obvious truth

What's obvious about it?

>I haven't seen these things

Meaning?

>>131150987

And God spokeall these words:

“I am theLordyour God,who brought you outof Egypt,out of the land of slavery.

“You shall have no other gods before me.

>>131150987
I guess I should have used god with a lower case g, but people can also worship gods like money, sex, power etc

In the case of Muslims they claim to worship Allah/YHWH but who knows who it really is
Jews is a really weird and long complicated story

Btw, playing semantics on the English word "god" won't get you anywhere

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>>131147505
This is a prelude to the antichrist. This pope spreads heresy.

Religion isn't a buffet restaurant. There is only one Truth: that God is the Father and that Jesus Christ is His Son, who suffered and died for our sins.

>>131147505
I called this a long long time ago. Vatican money, Islamic drones.

>>131147505
He is the great whore of Babylon as told in the apocalypse.
Pharisees that do what they do for the power and money involved.

>>131151130
Do you believe in the loch ness monster? You believe aliens have been on earth? You believe in unicorns?

>>131151155

He also said that there are no other gods, but then goes and says that he's jealous, how can he be jealous if there are no other gods?

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>>131150987
Zionist jews are also satanic

only followers of Judaism are true jews and they would only follow the Torah, the written word of God. The normal ones we all know follow the Talmud, the word of man or "oral torah" and in this heathen book there are all kinds of strange things written, female god only being one of them, another being rabbi's pwning God in a debate and it says that Jesus boils in excrement in hell

so, yeah.

>>131147505
One world government, one world currency (ruled by the AntiChrist), one world army, (the beast with many heads, the UN), one world religion (the pope aka the false prophet). Sounds familiar?

>>131151201

I believe in what my experiences have proven me to be existing, this includes God.

>y-you're insane or hallucinating

No, I'm not.

>>131147505
No thanks. Go kiss niggerfeet you heretics.

>>131147505
The pope never said that. Pic is fake

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Madokami is the truGod.

>>131151204
Curious, what do YOU think He meant?

>>131150999
I don't know. I can't see Jesus being the type of person that would savor in the knowledge that disbelievers get punished in hellfire.

>>131151180
all popes, the catholic church itself spreads heresy. It is satanic in origin.

>>131151280

I think he means there are others, if not, who could be jealous of thin air?

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>>131151180
>Religion isn't a buffet restaurant.

so religion is like a poor inner-city school that serves the same shitty food every day? That's not truth. That's just refusing to get better food so you can pocket all the money and maintain your golden chair, mr. old pope from 1892.

>>131147505
One religion? Sure, as long as it's Christianity.

>>131148107

Have you read Proverbs? That is full of juicy shit.

>>131151251
No, you are not insane. Just stupid.

But, tell me about these experiences.

>>131151334

You'd mock them and we'd get nowhere.

>>131147505
Antichrist shill

>>131151334

The universe itself is intelligence, this is just the beginning of God.

t. Data Scientist doing research into Machine-Learning algorithms

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>>131151249
>One world government
>one world currency (ruled by the AntiChrist),
>one world army, (the beast with many heads, the UN),
>one world religion (the pope aka the false prophet).
>Sounds familiar?

yea, sounds like a good episode of Star Trek. Is this REALLY what the church was denying us? fuck you church.

>>131151313
I don't understand what you mean, but it seems we are in agreement, no?

>>131151204
Abramaic religion's god was one of three I'm the same pantheon. El, which became YHVH had two brother in the very beginning. Interesting stuff.

>>131150000
You realize Sola scriptura isn't in the bible, christ built a family not a book. That family formed the orthodox then catholic church, the organization that compiled the bible

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>>131151283
Ezekiel 18:23
Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

the pope is a heretic and should be hanged

>>131147505
He is talking about the wide road of Lucifer.
Jesus is the narrow road that liberates you from religious oppression.
He is antichristian.

>>131151416

I fucking get a new tale every time I ask these things!

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>>131151298
No you are wrong. Lutheran nonsense.

Vatican II concilium was a putsch by freemasons in the Vatican in 1965. It was prophecised a century before and it happened. Since then the masonic faith is being teached, under the guise of ecumenism.

We are on the verge of the Great Chastisement and the reign of the antichrist.

Is the pope unironically the anti christ now? Because this is literally what the anti christ would do

>>131151204
That's because he is "jealous" when we, as his children, wander from the path of rightousness and pursue anything other then him and his grace through Jesus Christ

>>131149688
good luck in sheol/ Hell fire you stupid idiot.

>>131149688
>>131149886
Secularists/cultural Christians dont understand what Christianity is.
>Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Jews and Muslims are apostates that worship themselves and their father the devil. The modern jewish Talmidic larp thry call Orthodox Judaism didnt even exist until ~500 years after Jesus was crucified.

>>131151334
Experiences are deeply personal but if you need any proof on the the God of Abraham being true, read the Bible and splendor at its glory. It is literally the perfect book on morality, history, and how every human should carry himself

>>131150918
>sure will Godless materialism bring us to an age of enlightenment! What else could possibly happen?
That's exactly what the (((Bolsheviks))) preached.

>>131151353
Well probably. but just know that you can't trust your own brain when seeing things. Else, we HAVE to believe that there are hundreds of alien ufo's flying around the earth. Because people experienced them, they will give the same argument as you do. Or Bigfoot, same shit. There are hundreds of these myths with the same argument.

>all religions

What about zeus nigger?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BquyQj8TX_w

>>131151466

What if there are others?
A better god who did nothing evil to you ever.

>>131151324
Truth is absolute, and does not need to be "modernized". You will end up in hell.

>>131151463
I've been saying for years this cunt is a fucking heretic

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>>131151463
obama is THE antichrist

pope maybe the false prophet

>>131151170
God is not a name. You went nowhere

>>131151334

For instance, think of yourself as a self-programming TV, if you don't tune in to the right frequencies, you won't receive the signal, or you will, but it might appear as noise to you.

>>131151406
How is the universe intelligent?

>>131151423
I just read the bible and try to follow its teachings, teachings that the catholic church easily ignores while it at the same time rely heavily upon things the bible repeats we should not do

I simply read and seek the truth, you should try it, the amount that it makes sense is almost creepy

>>131151434
I don't understand this.

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HERESY

Remove deceiver

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>>131151459
>oh no! not the voluptuous lewd men!
>and these flying horseless carriages..my word

It's great to know that old-fashioned Catholic church officially has more in common with ISIS than western societies nowadays.

>>131151549
Why are you using a Templar flag? It's unchristian

>>131151324
Ecclesia is like your father's table set with your mother's home cooking.

And if you dont like it you can pack your shit and go drive through Taco Hell with the rest of the heathen.

>>131147505
literally a NWO
maybe while we're at it, we could also get..., gee i don't know? A new one world (currency), one tolerant ((currency)), no more poverty just one world single united (((curency)))

fuck of cunt

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dropping some prophecy

>>131151577

How can intelligence exist in an unintelligent universe?

>>131151568
You're a fool
Names represent concepts
How else would you like me to refer to God, in tongues?

>>131151269
She's a broken god

>>131151495
Well, here I am in Genesis. Reading about light before the sun (or stars). Photosynthesis without the sun. The first book already is full of claims that are proven the be wrong by science.

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>>131151663

>>131151459
That does not change that the catholic faith is based on the wrong ideas from the start.

>>131147505
Even if he said that it does not 'fix' anything.
Even if people accept that they all worship the same god, the debate on HOW to worship him still remains. Look at how many splinter factions christianity has on it's own ffs.

>>131147505
Of course we all worship all god.
It's all about who worships him best.

>>131147505
FUCK YOU AND FUCK THAT CRYPTO KIKE

>>131151600
I've read the bible a lot and joined the orthodox church. After reading St John Damascus Fountain of Wisdom, I gained a deeper understanding of orthodox theology and decided to join the true church of christ. I was born and raised catholic

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>>131151775
>the true church of christ

>>131151498
If you think we need a god to have a meaning in life or to keep us from doing 'bad' things then you probably never saw all the Black Fridays or all the other related things. Nothing will change.

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>>131151721

>>131151705
And why couldn't God create light before a source? It wouldn't make sense to create a sun that does nothing, now does it?

>>131151699
Refer as you want. You cannot refer fully.

>>131151513
Isaiah 44:6–8, it says, “Thus says YHWH…: I am the first, and I am the last; andbeside me there is no God… Is there a God beside me? Yea, there is no God; I know not any.”

And from the gospel of Paul in 1st Corinthians:
Therefore, as to the eating of food offered to idols, we know that “an idol has no real existence,” and that “there is no God but one.”5For although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth—as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”—6yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.

>>131151823
Was referring to the orthodox church shitwagon

>>131147505
Literally satanic

>>131151848
What is exactly your point?

>>131151576
Yea, that made the inventors of the TV intelligent for discovering that. It has nothing to do with a god.

>>131151577

Another example, bioengineers have discovered natural selection occurs definitely at the amino-acid level, with evidence pointing to it happening at the quantum or string level.
You could think of natural selection as a dynamic computation done by a computer simulation, quite beautiful, isn't it, just too fucking perfect to be real, my friend, yet here we are, communicating over a vast distance with electrons, like neurons in a brain.

>>131151857

But what if gnostics had it right?

Or Kabbalists.

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>>131151730
No. Jesus gave the keys of his Church to Peter. You protestants act like the Church was only found in the 16th century. Also you commit the same heresy as the Aetians in the first centuries after Christ, who professed that faith alone is enough to be saved.

>>131151857
Hierarchy

>>131151992
Examples?

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>>131147505
Satanry

>ABORT

>>131151899
I have no point

>>131151775
seems we have reached the same conclusion through our different travels, that is what happens when one honestly seeks the truth and God

>>131151931

Okay, what is your definition of intelligence?

>>131151201
>You believe in unicorns?
As a matter of fact...
>God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.

>And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.

>Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

>His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.

>Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.

>He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.

>But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.

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>>131151992
No they certainly weren't, they were charlatans, some very lewd and carnal like the Carpocratians

read Irenaeus, "against heretics", and you'll know why they were wrong

>>131151685
Are we intelligent? I'm not sure if humans are intelligent.

So, because there is intelligence on earth like you say the universe must be intelligent?

>>131152073
wow, so deep and meaningful, next time don't fucking post if you have nothing to say stupid tripfag

>>131152172
Read Tetralemma

>>131152048

Well, the god of the bible can be either right or wrong in his insistence that there are no gods, maybe there's one above him and that's why he does not notice.

Likewise the kabbalists have a different approach to scripture wherein spirituality is practiced differently and scripture is interpreted much more differently and in a mystical way.

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>>131151528
>Truth is absolute, and does not need to be "modernized".

This assumes you had the truth.

Going back to my analogy, your food ("truth") is festering and stale now. It fails to liberate anyone, much like all (orthodox) abrahamic religion.

Whereas new age religion is actually targeting psychological conditions like PTSD and depression. Instead of repeating mantras, it's making honest attempts at speaking to the soul.

>>131151837
Why would he not write it down? Why is keeping that a secret? Does he like it making it hard for us to believe in him?

Or

Did they not understand how photosynthesis work in the time the bible was written? And that is why the writer made a mistake here?

>>131151958
>The universe is a computer simulation

As interesting and possible as this sounds, it just turns into the 'who came before God argument?'
Who's writing the program first? Whose simulating who?

>>131152198
>Tetralemma
no thanks, i have the bible

>>131151600
Dude all youve been doing is strawmanning Catholicism with terrible talking points. Go to a Catholic Mass and you will find Bibles in the pews.

>>131147505
OP is either a shill, shit-poster, or a member of the "religion of peace"

>>131151998
Have I said that or are you projecting?
I have specifically said that I believe in a stronger adherence to the old traditions and that the modern disregard is a ploy to lead Christians away from God
see
>>131151823

>>131152141

In simple terms, yes, intelligence (or computation) appears to occur at every level of the universe. In fact we can draw it out using mathematics and implement what we learn from nature into designing better machines. Nothing is new under the sun.

>>131151998
Why does Rome have the exclusive claim when Peter founded Antioch before Rome and was bishop of both? Peter clearly believed in ecumenical councils, the first council in acts that's called Paul came our victorious, proving Peter didn't have infailabilty on doctrinal issues. Peter established the orthodox church, the Latin broke away over 1000 years later. In James when another council is called, James is honored because he's the bishop of the territory of the council, Peter is payed no special privilege

>>131152241
No, you don't have it

>>131151451
If you want to understand the Christian god you have to understand the Jewish one, who is the same, El, and understand were El came from. Eventually you'll have a polytheisc religion in the middle east that worshiped three gods, El and two brothers. These three cults fought against themselves for human reasons, and eventually the cult of the other gods was persecuted and dessapeared. Few milenia down the line you have a monotheistic religion based on the cult of the god whose cultists won.

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>>131152208
heretical nonsense

you can't make heaven on Earth, certainly not when you know Satan is the prince of this world. Or you choose the right hand path of God, or you'll be the devil's and end up in the lake of fire with him.

>>131151463
All popes are pseudochristos by literal definition.

And this is why Catholics burned the real Christians for daring to read the Bible.

>>131149162
> real one
Implying the Bible ever mentions the word "pope" or "vicker of Christ"

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>>131152200
there is many gods in the bible but theyre below YHWH theyre demons which he made and they deceive people thats what all these spiritual religions are

its called idol worship

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>>131149435
dear friend, you join the Orthodox, you don't post a Crusader, you post a Catephract .. or

>>131147505
this communist is dismantling christendom. good lord.

>>131152232

Good question. Like in math you can have infinity but if you add 2x infinity, it's technically a bigger infinity. But at the end, I'm inclined to believe there is an ultimate source of reality and energy and that entity is God or Moksha or what have you.

>>131152318
Any proof or sources? Honestly curious

>>131152306
wow... you're so cryptic and wise... i'm definitely convinced by you're useless mumbo jumbo now
fuck off roleplayer

>>131151958
How is it perfect? If this universe was intelligent, he must be the retarded one of the universe. Why does he create a universe that needs the cycle of life to keep it working? Why not create a universe where everything is at it is. Just because things are small and yes still amazing doesn't make it perfect.

Lots of animals have body parts that have no use. What's intelligent about that. I think you give the universe to much credit.

>>131152249
watch their masonic rituals and you clearly see they are not Christian

I bet that most people who have bibles also don't read them

>>131147505

>insert sounds good, doesn't work meme

>>131152390

That's what you believe, because you truly believe the bible without questioning yhvh, look at how he is insistent that there are no other gods, maybe he knows there are.

>>131152390
God bless you.

>>131147505
Oh my fucking god this cuck, the pope is supposed to have the back of his people, specially the italians (i know hes argentinian but he represents the vatican), what a piece of absolute shit

>>131149239
- Jews refuse to accept Christ as both the son of God and God in the flesh who came to forgive our sins
- Islam worships Baal and only thinks Christ was a prophet

>>131152342
>you can't make heaven on Earth
new age religion doesn't seek to make heaven on earth. It seeks higher consciousness which focuses on the "is".

The ego is finally restrained. It's not heaven, nor pleasurable, but the suffering finally ends.

>>131147505
>Hinduism and paganism obviously worship local fallen angels that presented themselves as gods and helped the people at some extent in exchange of animal sacrifice and shit
> The same gods as YHWH
Fuck off

>>131151833
We do need God. That's the whole point of the parable of Adan and Eve.
Faith in God is completely logical if you accept these 3 premises:
>there is an absolute truth about the universe/reality

>we want to follow the path of this truth, since truth = good (love, happiness, fulfillment, etc)

>we will never learn 100% about this absolute truth underlying the universe through rational and scientific means. We will surely die before.
If we want to follow the path of truth, we cannot rely on science/rationality alone. We need to do a leap of faith into the unknown, trusting 100% we have chosen the right path towards it. You either choose a path, or choose to restrain from making this leap. Leap, or become spiritually sedentary.
This is a pre-rational decision. Your call.

>>131147505
go and pray to satan some where else...

>>131147505
>brilliant
What are you British? Fuck off proxy fag

>>131149584
Amen Seconded

>>131152452
Prove me you have the bible. You cannot prove fully.
Futhermore, I exhort you to stop humillating or you'll be humillated.

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>>131149435
.. or the Varangian (Viking) Imperial Guard.
In the name of the Crown, Cross and Heavens

>>131152083
Well, of course, the definition is the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills. So you mean that thát is the definition of the universe? Meaning, in big empty space there is a brain somewhere?

>>131152108
Yes, proves my point about the stupid things in the bible.

>>131152585
prove to me you exist
you cannot prove fully

now take your gnostic trash back to /x/ or r/atheism or where ever you came from you autistic tripfag

>>131152215
^the visions of the blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich from the 19th century pretty much nailed what has happened in Rome in the last 50 years, the Great Apostasy starting from the top down in the Vatican, the current heresy teaching pope inspired by Satan, and what is waiting at the horizon for us.

>>131147505
if he believes what he says, why doesn't he declare all current religions defunct and found a new singular universal religion?

>>131147505
All abrahamic religions worship the same jewish god
Not every religion is owned by jews

>>131150000
Yup plus the Bible forbids bowing to graven images, burning of incense, having priests before Christ, chanting like pagans, idolatry. It also never mentions the word/position of "pope" or "vicker of Christ".

>>131152647
>prove to me you exist
I cannot prove fully thus I can prove fully.
See, you did read the tetralemma

>>131150254
Yup its the only unforgivable sin

>>131152457

I'm appreciative of the blessing called Life. The odds of even being here, let alone talking to each other on the internet, are so incomprehensibly low, it appears to be a mathematically impossibility that we exist right now. Knowing this, I believe this plane of existence is a spiritual test. You have immense power locked inside you (electromagnetic, artistic, intellectual), you might unlock it, you might choose not to, but if you do, you will realize others are doing the same, some for Good and helping others, some for Evil and controlling others. God lets you choose.

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>>131152480
wouldnt you be pissed if people started worshipping some demon. it just says hes the only creator god beginning of everything, not that theres no other demon spirits out there

Deuteronomy 6:14-15
Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you; 15(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.

>>131152751
epic
you're so wise and redpilled
teach me your enlightened ways oh buddha

>>131147505
Why doesn't anyone understand that Pope speaks in metaphors?

>>131152727
yeah, if Jesus were to have an elected temporary replacement on earth until his comeback you would have thought the bible would have mentioned

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>>131152262
Then I apologize, I assumed your protestant faith from your flag.

In that case you should find the prophecies and visions I posted here interesting.

>>131151408
>what the church was denying us
I see, you will be among the first to take the mark of the beast and even eager to do so. I am sorry for you.

>>131152801

But you know, you are taking what the bible offers at face value, let's analyze your god.

And the LORD was with Judah, and he took possession of the hill country, but he could not drive out the inhabitants of the plain because they had chariots of iron.

-Judges 1:19

Not that very omnipotent, is he?

>>131152439
I won't have the time to look for references on the Web now, but if the thread is still here when I'm back I can try to search and compile something.

Anyway if you are really curious about it just dig online following that El line. I know there's info about it, because I know I'm not making this up for trolling

>>131152804
Stop lying

>>131152620

No, there is an enormous electromagnetic frequency spectrum, and us as humans, are only consciously tuned in to a very small portion of that spectrum. If we were able to take it all in at once our poor little nervous systems would fry in an instant.

>>131152913
good thing you have a trip, now i can filter you

>>131152550
I love that the more religious a country is, the more war, hate, poverty and things like that is.

But come on. You can't be rational. Just accept these 3 bullshit things and you can have a nice life. People like you make me sick. Just because you die before knowing the truth of the universe doesn't mean others won't.

This is really the way of making people dumb. No rationality. No logic. Just yes without thinking for yourself.

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>>131152620

Case in point.

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>>131147505
One god and his name is Pepe the frog.

>>131152794
We have nothing to compare our universe to. So making a claim that this universe is intelligent has no meaning.

Where are spirits? Where is god?

>>131153007

Sorry for the shitty image, the one on the left is a brain, the one on the right is an image of galactic superclusters. I can assure you, it appears we are inside a brain.

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>>131150254
>>131152788
>implying you're not part of the NWO already

in 'revelation', people will be completely oblivious to it.

based on the 10 commandments, America has fallen. You guys are both willfully contributing to a society that is a literal vehicle for the anti-christ. In other words, join me in hell brothers. Because you're no better than I. (perhaps worse since you're hypocrites)

this thread is so autistic.
the pope is a filthy commie tho

>>131153007
Yes, we are made out of the stars. Of course, things look alike in the universe. That's like saying. Oh! There is water all around the universe! Told you, there is life.

>MUH LAWGIC

This is why we have to kill ALL atheists.

>>131148484
This.

Zionism already intends to control humanity with a single global religion: the worship of consumption and the Zionists' debt-money. This is why they are so actively destroying all other religions.

>>131153071
would pray for you but guessing there is no point

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>>131152880
if he wasnt omnipotent then why would he put that in the bible dont you think they would want to hide that
lmao

god supernaturally kills people a lot of times just cuz he didnt feel like it 1 time

>>131152949
Don't act surprised when you'll get filtered

>>131152880
if you have 0 understanding of the bible you can point to one out of context quote as a "gotcha" for people with 110 IQs

>>131153041

Like I said, we as Humans can only see a very, very, very small portion of the electromagnetic spectrum, these things (demons/aliens) could be all sorts of electromagnetic abnormalities or disharmonies, like bad notes in an otherwise beautiful song, or a virus on a network.

>>131152480
>look at how he is insistent that there are no other gods

more proof you don't know anything about the bible and you're speaking from severe ignorance

shut the fuck up.

>>131153155
Jesus is logos, anon. Don't deny the son.

>>131152880
This is another reason BTW, why atheists should have their teeth smashed in, I don't care about saving the souls of atheists, but its important to silence them so that they can't infect other minds.

>>131152285
When the Faith was legalised in Rome by Constantine the Great, the last remnants of Jesus' family (by the other sons of Joseph, not from Mary the Holy Virgin) offered the pope for the Church to now come back to Jerusalem, but the pope declined, stating that Peter's mission was specifically to settle the Church in Rome.

I will not discuss the whole filioque now, and I want to add that I have a lot of respect for Orthodoxy and lament the Schism. Another more merry prophecy is that before the reign of the Antichrist, God will put a permanent miraculous sign in the world that will not only serve to convince people of His existance but unite the various Christian denominations again.

But this will likely happen after great wars, turmoil and natural disasters. I have to check the literature on that again.

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>>131153071
mark of the beast is a willfull thing

sorry nwo isnt here yet ... dumb dumb

probably sept 23 it will be though

>>131153382
you know what I am talking about

its the same as shitlibs

screeching about how smart they are while being actively stupid

imagine a sub iq 90 nigger thinking he knows more about chemistry than you, same thing

>>131153132

My friend, I'm not trying to convince you, you'll have to convince yourself. That is Faith. If you don't want to believe, than you won't, and what I'm saying will sound like phooey. But let me tell you, when you feel all alone, and you have nobody you feel like talking to, try talking to God. He doesn't talk back, at least to me, he just listens. You'll feel crazy, but you might experience something akin to relief or understanding.

>>131151998
>Jesus gave the keys of his Church to Peter

this is literally the only argument that Catholics have to offer for their legitimacy and it's a very shaky one.

>>131153237
Not agreeing with all of your analogies but I don't care about that mostly. What I care about is that it's not spiritual, It's not magic. That's my point. We could be in a simulation made by some robots for all we know. My point is that there is no god that is magical or spiritual.

>>131147505
hmmmm, sounds like the first step for a successful NWO

>>131151324
You are like a faggot that shoves HIV infected nigger dildos in your anus because its the rational and modern thing to do in the Current Year.

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103.htm

IRENAEUS: AGAINST HERESIES

All gnostic larpers should read this. Especially the chapter on Simon Magus.

>>131153479
Don't come with experiences. You might want to learn a bit more about how our brain works and perceiving things that aren't there. How our brain fools us every day. If you know how our brain works then you know how experiences are useless to use a proof.

>>131153429
Oh I see, My bad then.
They just need more logic.

>>131153497

Are you depressed? I feel like that when I'm depressed.

>>131147820
Pope just wants bacha bazi for catholicd

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Dear friends , wish you spoke Greek so I didn't have to translate any crap from the Orthodox saints prophecies about the next few years .

America you are looking at natural disasters , and nuclear war

Europe you are looking at nuclear war

Russia you are looking at nuclear war and natural disasters

Please no one nuke the North Pole your fuckers in your exchange and drown all coasts .

The world will be rebuilt and then a satanic imposter will claim he is a jewish messiah (the antichrist) - all those who believe him are lost .

Do not take a BANKING ESTABLISHMENT ID CARD (AND CREDIRCARD) EVER (i.e. get your ID card issued by banks instead of your local authority)

Repent or get lost

Sick by the jewish satanic tyranny on the survivors of the great war , the abyss will open and who ever is not baptised in the name of Jesus Christ will regret it.

>>131153479
Also remember that we all have a guardian angel. You can pray for him too, to help strengthen you and avoid temptation.

>>131153384
Paul's mission was to settle the church in Rome, he was chosen because he was a Roman jew. Peter was for the jews, and Paul for the gentiles. The popes claims are illegitimate, heretical and displaces christ as the head of the church. I just want the Latin church to admit they made a power grab due to their influence 1000 years after Peter founded the patriarch.

>>131151705
Genesis is not a scientific text, its a polemic against near eastern creation myths.

Why the fuck do you think god would give pre-modern Israelite a scientific description of creation?

>>131153622
Nonsense, you do not know anything about the brain yet you speak about it with such confidence. You are the one being deluded.

>>131153229

It's not out of context, if the lord is with judah, and judah cannot win...

>>131153660
I am actually far from depressed. Just because I have this kind of view, doesn't mean I can't be happy in life. I don't need the belief in a higher power to keep me from getting sad.

It makes me happy how much mystery the universe gives us. How every now and then we learn more about the universe.

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>>131153497

If it's any consolation, simulated ass sure is great.

>>131153816
Ok, nice argument. You really got me there. I have no comeback since your argument is so well written and thought out.

the hate only lives in the human heart. no such thing as world peace. men has killed men since the beginning.

>>131147564
The truth is all religion is man made bullshit.

>>131147505
No more hate, unless you don't follow it, then you will be hated and killed off.
Then, once those atheists have been killed we, the true followers of the faith will kill all the heretics.
Then, we will have God's peace, praise unto God.
Then God turns up, "Yup, I fucked this up, lol, where's that save point?" and destroys everything.

>>131153762
Why would I need to pray to a guardian angel when I can pray to the Father as Jesus taught us?
Is the omnipotent God not capable of hearing our prayers himself?

>>131153886
It's true you have no argument because you respond with a sarcastic bitch faggot response, one like a woman would make.

>>131153867
Hahahahaha. It still is weird how our brain makes us like roundish forms made of cells. But, I do not question it.

>>131153719
I have been reading the visions of the Elder St. Paisios just this morning.

Really looking forward to the return of Constantinopel and masses in the Hagia Sophia ;^)

BTW there is a very similar prophecy by a Roman catholic saint about that. All the Balkan people will unite under Christianity. They'll become God's soldiers who oust the remaining muslims out of Turkey.

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>>131151705
modern science is all a hoax
earth is flat the universe doesnt exist

rlly makes u think

>>131153937
It's an invitation to write the argument that proves I know nothing about psychology.

But, yeah. Damn, you also got me, man. People like you and him deserve these kinds of 'sarcastic bitch faggot' answers. I'd rather debate with a woman who actually argues about the topic than a man who only does name-calling. Grow up.

>>131153918
Naturally. I was just pointing it out as a possibility.

>>131154005
You did ? I was saint-reading all morning too .
Paisios described what's happening now eh ?

I know good times are coming for us and all the western euros/ usa will really get to know the meaning of 'misery' and 'horror' .

Lord bless us all brother , both us and poor them .

>>131153807
Why wouldn't he? Everything said in the bible is the truth. At least, according to all these verses in the bible https://www.openbible.info/topics/truth_of_scripture

But, you must be right about god.

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>>131147505
Fuck you, i love hating.
I thrive on hate.
I am a racist and i am proud of it.
Islam need to be whiped out of the earth.
Islam is evil. And only protestant christianity is the real christianity.
The pope who roleplays a fake God needs to die to.

Deus vult, Gott mit uns.

>>131154276
hate is unchristian
sorry buddy

>>131152974
>no rationality at all
Never said that. All I said is that rationality and science won't lead you to the truest path on their own. You atheists too often confuse spirituality, superstition, religion, and faith. They are all very different concepts. Learn to discern them from one another before attempting to discuss about these matters.

Again;
Superstition =! Spirituality =! Religion =! Faith

>>131147505
allah is satan not god you shitty commie pope.

>>131154059
>MUH MODERN SCIENCE MEANS GOD ISNT REAL AND THERES 6574 GENDERS

>>131154059
Your god is Bill Nye and a fat jewish whore shoving dildos in your anus.

>>131154364
Hate is a necessity for those who abhor evil. If mere hate was a sin, you'd be accusing God of being a sinner, which makes you a blasphemer.

>>131154375
They are all connected and related to each other. Without one, you can't have the other.

>All I said is that rationality and science won't lead you to the truest path on their own.
You are making claims based on a belief, not on facts. THAT is irrationality.

>>131152974
>I love that the more religious a country is, the more war, hate, poverty and things like that is.


Another faggot fedora meme with no basis in reality.

>>131154276
Love your people and love truth. Stop hating. Hate is self-destructive. Love builds and protects.

>>131154550
You believe in your own rationality. Got any FACTS to back that up buddy?

>>131154530
people take the whole "hate evil" thing to extreme
we can hate ideas, and we can hate sin, but its unchristian to hate people, and is unchristian to hate sinners

keep in mind "unchristian" is non synonymous with "sinful"

>>131154559
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/maps-and-graphics/most-religious-countries-in-the-world/

Compare these to europe where religion is a lot less common.

>>131154590
It's good to HATE filthy people that would undermine you.

Fill your heart with HATE for vile sinners, rapists, thieves, and whoremongers.

>>131154364
Psalm 97:10 Ye that love the Lord, hate evil

>>131154619
yes? It is the quality of being based on or in accordance with reason or logic. That is a fact?

>>131147505
If they're going to degrade religion so much, we may as well just remove them all from power, confiscate the wealth of the church, make them all beggars, and follow the Force from Star Wars, as it makes more sense than trying to force the West to shit on their own culture and embrace the horror of islam.

>>131154645
see
>>131154623

>>131147505
Is there no true believer in the Swiss Guard who can deliver us from this evil?

The fake pope must be disposed.

#NOTMYPOPE

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>>131154636
Europe won't stay irreligious for long.

The faggot Western Euro states were able to degenerate because of American military and economic might.

Now these degenerate irreligious Europeans are inviting armies of Muslims into their homes. You won't stay irreligious for long faggot.

Of course, the irony is that you're just repeating the propaganda of your Jew communist states.

Preparing us for the antichrist. Or project blue beam "disclosure". Maybe it's the same thing.

>>131154671
>I use logic thus I am logical.

Can you prove that you're using logic? With facts? What is a fact?

>>131152374
> implying Christianity is based solely on the bible and not accumulated knowledge & philosophy (aka truth)

>>131154858
lol

>>131154550
Too bad we aren't rational beings only. I'm not trying to engineer a rocket. I'm talking about building oneself and finding purpose in life.
We aren't robots. Rationality alone cannot guide you to love, happiness, fulfillment, etc.

>>131154751
Btw >>131154270

How was the US created? You are making hundreds of claims with no proof.

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>>131149435
Look at the symbols and tell me orthodoxy is not the greatest
It's the church of the white man

>>131154786
Use google, please. I don't have time for explaining that to you.

>>131154908
What is our purpose then?

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>>131151833

The final redpill is the Godpill. It's for you the only way to protect yourself against Islam indoctrination and marxist evilogy. Your believe in yourself can never compete with a real ideology. You alone are not strong enough to defend yourself against Islam and marxism. Christianity offers you a real strong believe, rather a way of living, able you to protect your friends, family and values. Your believe in yourself can waver, believe in God is eternal. You can't kill or destroy a believe. Unless you kill all the believers. You as only believing in one person that is yourself, can easily be destroyed. You are just one, and we Christians are many but God is the greatest. Our fate keep us in place and keep us strong. And if one of us dies his believe will spread and it will strenghten our fates even further, because he will go to God. It is that kind of dedication what is needed to protect and fight against the Islam and marxism, because they do the same. And you stand no chance against them or us Christians.

Deus vult, Gott mit uns.

>>131154671
Again, no one is entirely rejecting rationality here. Just accepting that we're imperfect, and thus, our own rationality can guide us away from the path of truth.

>>131155009
To long, didn't read

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>>131155009
>Deus vult

thats evil
what catholics use to justify killing every1

god dont like wars or fights or nuthin

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>>131154992
I don't know. I'm just human. But I can use every single sense and cognition at my disposal (meaning, not limited to rationality) to discern what my purpose is. To discern which is the path of truth. The path we all want to follow.

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my faith in Jesus and Christianity is unshakable

>>131154644
No. Love purity and holiness, rather than hate degeneracy, for example.
Real love implies you are willing to give yourself to protect that which you care for.
Hate will lead you to the path of ruin every single time. Don't waste your energy on self-destructive forces.

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>>131147505
>1 religion
>1 nation
>1 race
>1 language
Remember the last time this happened?

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>>131155413
Lets hope it will stay this way for all of us brother

Man is the measure of all, greatest happiness for the greatest number is all you need, perfectibility of mankind FTW.

>>131155913
>perfect happiness for the greatest number is all you need
If only it was that simple. Mankind has been wondering what exactly is happiness and how to obtain it since forever.

>>131147505
FUCK YOUR RELIGION REEEEEE

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>>131154949
yeah ,you might as well save this brother