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>Why are hispanics/amerindians/latinos iqs so low in average? They built pretty impressive empires although not too early in history admittedly. I wonder why, if we are going with the race realist theory, the nations south of the border haven't retained their natural prowess in science, specifically math and astronomy.

>TLDR: why isn't Mexico the center of astronomical technology today?

>I'm half White Mexican btw (130ish iq) but that doesn't really matter. Just giving a background to my interest that stemmed from the earlier thread in the Aztecs
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>>131141414
Spaniard and Barbarossas
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>>131141414
They went the way of the Mayans.
All that remained was the trash.
Condolences for your fate.
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IQ cannot be everything. Mongolians purportedly have among the highest IQ's - what the hell have they done except slaughter and sperm-spray?
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>>131141414
Just because there were enough smart people at the top of society who had the time and ability to study astronomy and design architecture doesn't mean that every fucking Indian was Galileo. Also, I highly suspect that the "history" we've been fed about Aztec and Maya society to be embellished by leftist dogma.
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>>131141414
we're taking over again

the prophecy says the white serpents will either away

half of this flag is not fat gringo incel cucks, its actually mexican
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>>131141524
I wonder if that's why I'm not a retarded nigger like the rest of the Mexicans because practically the only native in me comes from my great grandfather who was pure native, yet was a lawyer and came from a tribe to the north. I suppose his people weren't as affected as the mestizos who are mostly made up of southern tribes. Now that I think of it, the only smart Mexicans that I know (very few) come from Northern Mexico.
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>>131141414

The peoples that undertook these great works were slaughtered by the incase and other niggers tier tribes
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Don't know but I love me some ilegal pussy. I'm thinking about green carding one of 'em. Yay or nay
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Because the caste that did that was long gone by the time the Spaniards came. Remember, the Maya collapsed centuries before due to war and agricultural collapse.

The top of the heap in Aztec and Incan societies married into the conquerors so completely that they literally became Spanish. The Montezuma line actually still exists... in Spain as a noble family:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Moctezuma_de_Tultengo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garcilaso_de_la_Vega_(chronicler)
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>>131142359
Interesting although their "palace" looks like absolute shit lol.
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>>131141414
Latino types only need enough iq points to be a gardener.

Beyond that iq points in your nigger like culture are a hinderence rather than an advantage. So those genes don't get passed onto your gardener kids.
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>>131141414
Learn how to green text or go back to plebbit.
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>>131141414
Sp*niards really did a number on pre-Colombian civilization.
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>>131141414
>Plebbit spacing
>Greentexting wrong
>(lol here's some random information about me xd do u want my facebook too)
>Being a disgusting taco muncher
>Not showing your flag

Cancer of the day award goes to you.
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Spaniards fucked up America. Also british destroyed the native americans too. White people were the "winners" but they weren't the originals owners.
Check any history book.
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>>131142526
::Shrugs::
They and their properties survived through the Napoleanic Wars, the Carlist Wars, the Civil War and Franco's regime. Lots of the Spanish noble families didn't make it through those.
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>>131141414
Racemixing :^)
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>>131141414
North American injuns didn't accomplish much of shit. A few of them developed rudimentary agriculture. Mostly just savages, though.

South American natives reached early bronze age tech, before Europeans came. Also, mostly savages, with a VERY unfortunate religion.
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>>131141414
>why isn't Mexico the center of astronomical technology today?
i don't know, those lads werecertianly up to something, but now that they are long gone it'll remain as a mistery

>bu bu bu but you're only aztecs
there were many others inhabiting mesoamerica, aztecs are the most famous because they were the ones that got in contact with spaniards and had gotten everyone rekt by the time europeans arrive

>le IQ thing
although at first it felt kind of awful to know that such a thing is rougly 70% genetics and 30% environmental, i now realize why my fellow countrymen behave the way they do, for years it was a mistery to me the following:
>work their asses off
>get paid
>for some crazy and incomprehensible reason they prefer to squander the shekels they have earned with a lot of effort on getting drunk or some other stupid shit
>after shekels run out proceed to complain like little fuckers because HUUURRR and DUUUUUURRR i ain't not have moneys for the nice things this other lad ha N SHEEEEEEEEEEIT DAWG

and i'm just considering this, god have mercy on me when they go around bitching about them being poor as fuck because they had 1 or 2 kids without having any savings, education, stable job. I mean, jesus christ, it wasn't/isn't fucking ocket science, it's goddamned COMMON SENSE
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>>131141414
The best of them got exterminated and there were not that many of them
Read some damn history man
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>Quetzalcoatl brings civilization and technology from the east
>builds massive structures and wonderous culture
>gets overrun and outbred by squat monsters seeking gibs

History repeats itself.
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>>131144207
*i now understand
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>>131144293
>Quetzalcoatl brings civilization and technology from the east
don't forget the smallpox and syphilis
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>>131144293
damn....
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>>131141414
>(130ish iq)
If you're saying "ish", it simply means you never did a real test with a doctor.

Therefore your number is invalidated.
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Spanish killed all the smart, athletic ones, only the shit ones are left
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>>131144293
Wasn't he supposed to be pale and bearded, unlike any Mesoamerican?
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>>131141414
I'm a full blooded Chicano. My parents are literate peasant stock from central Mexico. Yet my sibling and I are all 130ish IQ stemfags. My parents didn't even push education on us. As kids, we were always smart and very shy. And no we aren't "white" Mexicans. according to ancestry I'm 52% European.

IQ isn't everything my brother and I are very beta. We aren't very career driven, can only get shy plain Asian girls(even though I am into thicc.jepg). And my sister is starting to ride the cock carousel.
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>>131144470
>59
jesus h chrsit

that can't be possible
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>>131141414
Honestly Guadalajara is where I live and it's not so bad, i'm considered light skin tone in Guadalajara but you can be the judge of that.
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>>131144422
That was Cortez, not Viracocha
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>>131144580
It isn't. That graph is real, but someone's modified the scale. I'll try to find the real one...
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>>131144564
>full blooded chicano
ayyyyyy, this hilarious terms kek
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>>131141414

The peak of Aztec innovation is less than the lowest point of European innovation (during the Dark ages) pic related.
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mexico could be just get rid of the iberian trash, it wasn't until after they racemixed that the natives stopped making these
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Every great south American empire fell because of overpopulation, followed by famine and desease. The Aztec are the exeption.
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>>131144875

200,000 Aztec lost their empire to 500 Spanish.
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>>131142174
yay.
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>>131144966
what is a shit ton of tlaxaian indian allies
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>>131145053
Several hundred. They still got fucked by a few hundred cannon fodder spics led by 500 Spanish.
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>>131141414
Also most Aztecs were killed off the Spanish had a huge ally force of tribes that would be taken advantage of by the Aztecs so the mestizo's may have less Aztec blood and more of a lowly tribe blood
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>>131144966
One hell of an exeption huh
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>>131141921
Nortenos rule, indio sorenos drool. Literally during the post revolutionary period.
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>>131145121
more like a couple of thousands read a book anon
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>>131141502
this kinda. got wiped out before they could reach their full potential
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>>131141414
>>131140956
GET IN HERE

sage
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>>131145121
>a fucking leaf

I should have been a pirate
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>>131145121
>Spaniards composed less then 1 percent of the forces arrayed against the Aztecs; more than 99 percent were Indians.

The Spanish would have failed if it weren't for their alliances with the natives.
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>>131141414
Selective breeding on the part of the original indians- they had a class system - and the fact that their best and brightest didn't get to pass on their genes. And Spain was never a good bloodline to begin with, so the admixtures are even worse. Peruvian people of today are all well educated but they are not smart. I'm sure it's the same in Mexico. They receive a better education than many Americans but their IQ cap is lower because of the language itself and their odd genes
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>>131144564
Brian?
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>>131144966
Mostly from disease that the Spanish introduced
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>>131143215
>being this butt mad about formatting preference
Don't you have a bull to prep Mr France's tipped fedora?
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>>131141414
Such seething resentment from 'civilized' cavedwellers against people who created a civilization.
The aztecs passed their peak by the time europeans arrived, so what?
None of you have potential to recreate the civilization you occupy.
Senescent cells such as yourselves must be killed to create a civilization worth living in.
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>>131141414
Yeah, I wonder what happened to those poor amerindians.
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I read a really interesting piece, I wish I could find it again, about why non-Western cultures don't succeed. It's not IQ, laziness, etc, though those may be a factor certainly not everyone suffers from them equally.

Instead it is the culture around them making them feel guilty and hide their every accomplishment. If you begin to rise, those around you say you did it on their backs. Family comes out of the woodwork with their hand out. You hide every success so you will not be insulted, robbed, kidnapped, or even killed.

It explained a lot.
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>>131144470

this map is bullshit why is usa almost as blue as china. its like , usa is like 98 and china and japan is 110
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>>131144606
aka Pahana
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>>131141414
>>131144207
Amerindians are paleomongoloids with some paleolithic west eurasian(very different from modern europeans) admixture. They have lower IQ than mongoloids who stayed in Asia probably because climate wasn't as cold in America. They also had rather low population so maybe their iq would increase after some time in civilisation. But I don't think they are stupid overall because they have most grammaticaly complex languages in the world and at least north american indians were good fighters who resisted americans for long.
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>>131144207
>although at first it felt kind of awful to know that such a thing is rougly 70% genetics and 30% environmental,

IQ is determined by environment. Populations who lived for thousands years in hot climate are pretty less inteligent but more agressive than the ones who lived in colder climates regardless of race. Civilisational pressures are also important es Eskimos while not stupid are definitely less inteligent than urban east asians despite being even more cold adapted.
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>>131144470
Lynn is bullshit and he pulled a lot of these scored out of his ass. For example papuans are around 84 or more not 59.
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>>131141921
Lol northern Mexico people are not that bright. Tell me why southern Mexico has a better economy and structure.
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It looks to me like white people and asians have the highest Autism Levels! Congratulations!
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>>131147521
>aka Pahana

aka Quetzalcoatl, Kukulkan, Enki, Osiris, Thoth, Vishnu, Oannes and many other names.
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>>131148868
>like white people and asians have the highest Autism Levels! Congratulations!

Yes ,probably from highest neanderthal admixture.
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>>131141567
Those IQ maps you see posted on pol are purely a meme created by a retard called Lynn who didn't even test 100+ countries and most of the other countries were real dodgy testing (eg. testing a single classroom of children to determine national IQ). The map would be better titled as "American perceptions of which countries have the highest IQs" because the map falls in line with stereotypes
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>>131141414
>their natural prowess in science, specifically math and astronomy.

lmao weird how every non european non east asian civ brags about being good at math and astronomy but it's always the only thing they have
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They were stripped of their identity and le happy spics destroyed their civilization and then destroyed all their texts. They were the unfortunate victims of circumstance. A real tragedy Mexico. Awful suffering.
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Dick size is more important that iq
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>>131146649
Still they have a much lower IQ. A more probable explanation...
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>>131144564
>130
Show proof.
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>>131141414
>be introduced to conquistadors
>they delete all your history
>then force convert you
>then they pretend none of that happened, lets all be friends you can even be mayors and governors!
>take 95% of all lead gold and silver
>let temples get taken by land and pillager
>majority of spanish wealth leaves, only land owners loyal to crown and coin stay
>keep reinvesting into Spanish interests overseas
>literally fucking sell territory by the handful to America after getting your ass handed, like cucks
>Then help the US produce the majority of its drugs on the side
Gee i wonder why
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>>131141920
90% indio genes Keep dreaming dude.
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>>131141414
All humans really had a civilization at some point exept blacks and abbos.
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>>131149666
>dem ebil stereotypes

lol
you lefties need a government funded study to tell you when you should take a shit.

Obligatory reminder that the AAMD was politically pressured to pass a bill lowering the IQ requirement for mental retardation from 85 to 70 because too many blacks in the US were considered legally retarded under the old system.

https://ia800503.us.archive.org/22/items/gov.law.aamd.classification.1973/aamd.classification.1973.pdf

However, assuming that IQ is the only indicator of potential is silly; things like future time orientation and propensity to violence are as important to development of advanced culture as IQ.
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>>131142174

Nay of course. Pull your shit together man.

Of course if you find one that's 75%+ white who wants 5+ kids then go for it.
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>>131146649

But the IQ and laziness are much more important. Proof of that being that high IQ minorities actually succeed to a high levels comparable to whites and Asians.

Cultural explanations of basically any sort are basically pure leftist apologism.

That behaviour you explain is part and parcel of low IQ communities anyways. Intelligent, hard working people don't drag their own kin down like that.
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>>131150377

This is pure low IQ apologism. None of that is any worse than what Europeans were doing to each other at the time.
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>>131151287
>muh IQ

You only say this because that is all your dying race has these days.

Vietnamese and other Asians aren't as successful as Western nations despite having higher IQs. In fact even Korea and Japan were only reached "the modern age" very recently despite their IQ.

No, AnonGmP's explanation makes a lot of sense.
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>>131141414
>only ever good in once area
>were murderous barbarians otherwise
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>>131151475
>Europeans were doing to each other at the time
They sure were, but the french, british, dutch, german, swiss, swedes, and portugese had a hate bone for Spains newfound instant wealth, and did everything in their power to subvert the latin territories
>Founding fathers literally shook hands with arab fucks because it meant they'd have one more ally against Spain
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>>131141414
They didn't build shit. All their legends say the gods came from heaven or across the sea and gave them civilization. And do you know how these gods were described? Tall, pale skin, gold hair and blue eyes. Ask any spic about it and they'll get defensive and deny it because they know they can't succeed without the white man. Just look at Mexico, 90% brown and a shithole. that's why they wanna come here because they know without us they will live in squalor.
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>>131151482

Shit skins breed like cockroaches under the umbrella of resource surplus that we single handily created. Enjoy it while you can, the tides are turning and a horrid fate approaches for your race; no longer being able to leech of the fruits of white productivity.
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>>131141414
The most likely explanation is that God blessed the Americas with white people long before Europeans got there. There was a blonde haired, blue eyed civilization known as the Chachapoyas which inhabited Peru as early as 800 BCE and developed a very complex culture and had great architecture and structure. They were annihilated by the inca's some time after the European arrived but their spread could explain the cultural development.
>They are the whitest and most handsome of all the people that I have seen in Indies, and their wives were so beautiful that because of their gentleness, many of them deserved to be the Incas' wives and to also be taken to the Sun Temple (...) The women and their husbands always dressed in woolen clothes and in their heads they wear their llautos, which are a sign they wear to be known everywhere.[citation needed]
—"The Incas", Pedro de Cieza de Leon, Chapter 27

There were also white cultures in other areas, I am looking for a good reference.
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>>131141414
The didn't have pork back then and they used human meat cause it tastes similar.
So they used the religious hypocrisy to feast on human/porky meat.
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>>131144470
>>131146873
>>131148793
This map is fake. Random datas distributed randomly. There's no collected datas for most 3rd world countries to begin with.
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>>131141414
They don't know who built the pyramids. They were probably white people.
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>>131141414
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There were also tool discoveries made in 2012 which provide strong evidence that Europeans arrived in North America long before the native tribes.
One piece of evidence is flint believed to have been brought from regions currently owned by France.

>In a discovery that could rewrite the history of the Americas, archaeologists have found a number of stone tools dating back between 19,000 and 26,000 years, and bearing remarkable similarities to those made in Europe.

>All of the ancient implements were discovered along the north-east coast of the USA.

>The tools could reassert the long dismissed and discredited claim that Europeans in the form of Christopher Columbus and his crew were the first to discover the New World.

https://saboteur365.wordpress.com/2017/04/04/evidence-that-stone-age-europeans-were-the-first-residents-of-north-america/
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19,000 year old Virginia Flint Knife came from France
>New archaeological evidence suggests that America was first discovered by Stone Age people from Europe – 10,000 years before the Siberian-originating ancestors of the American Indians set foot in the New World.

>A remarkable series of several dozen European-style stone tools, dating back between 19,000 and 26,000 years, have been discovered at six locations along the US east coast. Three of the sites are on the Delmarva Peninsular in Maryland, discovered by archaeologist Dr Darrin Lowery of the University of Delaware. One is in Pennsylvania and another in Virginia. A sixth was discovered by scallop-dredging fishermen on the seabed 60 miles from the Virginian coast on what, in prehistoric times, would have been dry land.
http://atlanteangardens.blogspot.ca/2014/03/19000-year-old-virginia-flint-knife.html
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>>131141414
you're IQ isnt 130 ust because an internet test told you so you dumb subhuman monkey

fucking shitskin

your inferiority complex just shines through your words bitch
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>>131152710
Wrong. Even niggers starving in Africa keep multiplying at faster rates than you.

So should we enslave you or wipe you all out? Which do you prefer?
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>>131141524
Wait, so the diseases somehow disproportionately killed off high IQ Amerindians?
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>>131153676
>niggers starving in Africa keep multiplying at faster
They eat each other and keep fucking!
i.e. Zimbabwe.
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>>131153658
He might indeed be a self hating sack of shit, but he is surviving, unlike you and your people, bitch.
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>>131141524
>>131153826
In Europe, the plagues disproportionately killed off the low IQ peasants, and raised the European IQ. You would think it would be the same way with Amerindians.

https://jaymans.wordpress.com/2012/06/14/more-on-farming-and-inheritance-systems-part-i-iq/
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Here's a map of indigenous/native populations' IQs across the globe.
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>>131153970
And yet those savages will still be eating each other and fucking after the white race exterminates itself completely.

Pretty pathetic huh?
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>>131141414
There were white people there for awhile. Just like in Peru. Then they suddenly disappeared "mysteriously". Probably just white flight. Whose heads do you think they were sacrificing down those steps? Native niggers.
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>>131153676
>Even niggers starving in Africa keep multiplying at faster rates than you.
Great, they will have something to eat when we cut off their supply chain.
Large unorganized undefended masses are a liability in an end game scenario, not an asset.
When civil unrest breaks down the last systems of control, you want to have well armed, well organized groups with an excess of resources, not millions of starving impoverished hordes who are going to turn on eachother before anyone else.
Tribal people can't stop being tribal they will always hate each other more than outsiders. For whites, civilization and alliance has always come naturally. Nothing will ever change that, open your eyes and look at the world you live in.
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>>131141414
Pyramids are the simplest fucking structure they could build btw. Why the fuck is anybody impressed by this? I'll tell you why. Because they can't believe brown people were capable of much more than flinging poo.
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>>131154043
I wouldn't bet on that tbqh.
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>>131154099
>For whites, civilization and alliance has always come naturally.

I will agree to this to an extent within nations, but not within "white people". Europe was always at war, and even "whites" here in the states never fully got along and STILL don't.
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>>131154133
Lol. Well, the Khazars will probably still be around, you're right. The rest of the "whites" have willingly swallowed everything those degenerates threw at them to their own demise.

Btw, most "whites" here don't consider you a member of their special club, Romania.
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>>131154394
>"whites" here don't consider you a member of their special club
Most /pol/ are a bunch of neets and losers so who gives a shit about their bad experience with a gypsy that stole their wallet or kicked their shit in and stole their phone?!
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>>131154682
I agree with you there my friend.
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>>131145786
/pol/ send to have a disproportionate amount of that spacing style, I can only imagine because the election brought in a big influx of new people or everyone is a phonefag
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>>131150243
Don't hold your breath
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>>131150825
That's actually a really interesting pic my dude, didn't know it was that bad
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>>131144564
>t. spantard rapebaby
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>>131154266
No race does you moron

>>131153676
>So should we enslave you or wipe you all out
You REALLY believe you would be capable of this?
An entire race that has never had a SINGLE accomplishment, never built anything long lasting, never left anything behind proving your existence. Niggers can outnumber us 100:1 and still not be able to do jack shit. Focking kek m8
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>>131148543
>IQ is determined by environment
Wrong. Minnesota adoption study. Niggers are dumb in africa. Niggers are dumb in america, uk, germany, and france. Niggers are dumb when raised in nigger families. Niggers are dumb when raised in white families. Rich niggers are dumb. Poor niggers are dumb.
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>>131153459
>There were also tool discoveries made in 2012 which provide strong evidence that Europeans arrived in North America long before the native tribes.

It makes sense; proto-humans spread everywhere, not just east to west.
But don't fall into the "We Wuz Kangs" trap.
Europeans from 26,000 years ago were not the same as modern Europeans.

Modern Europeans didn't exist 26,000 years ago.
All of recorded human history has occurred within the past 12,000 years.

We've already forgotten more than we will ever know.
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>>131153459
>>131153620
Interesting, I always suspected that Europeans had reached America before the Age of Discovery or even before Leif Erikson landed in Vinland. The fact that the description of many of their gods match those of European people implies this too. What motivated me to think this was the use of farming in the Americas. I always thought it was odd that they discovered agriculture independently and the fact that pre-history is a lot of guesswork doesn't rule of the possibility of Caucasoid people finding their way into the Americas bringing agriculture. Of course 19,000 year old artifacts don't exactly support my claim since they predate the Neolithic Revolution but they do remind us that history isn't exactly as we know it.
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>>131154682
Nah..if you have remotly tanned skin and brown eyes and live near the balkans, they dont consider you white.They don t consider me white either, but there is not a single race that I would classify as, but that doesnt matter , stormfags only consider albinos white
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>>131149666
abo detected>>131150825
>Obligatory reminder that the AAMD was politically pressured to pass a bill lowering the IQ requirement for mental retardation from 85 to 70 because too many blacks in the US were considered legally retarded under the old system.
Source on this pls. I do not doubt it but i want a source to add to my ever-growing niggers.txt file.
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>>131158433
And also, a lot of americans have native americans have nigger and native american blood in them, but they get red in the sunlight, so they are white.God forbid you turn remotly brown.Instant shitskin poo in loo
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Reptilian aliens helped them
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>>131141920
Mestizo, you're so weak you need gimmiedat programs from whitey to pay for all your kids for your little "conquest," and you ought to get a blood test. If you're 50% European, why not slice yourself in half and ship one of the halves to Europe?
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>>131141414
Aztec and Mayans invented nothing of value besides their calendar. It's obvious you dumb spics are not the people who built that stuff, because none of you understand it.
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>>131144564
of course paco
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>>131144564
>mexican intellectuals
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>>131141567
Mongolians were dumbass steppe niggers that destroyed everything they touched. If they have high IQ today its probably due to breeding with Chinese slaves post conquest.
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>>131158578
>Source on this pls. I do not doubt it but i want a source to add to my ever-growing niggers.txt file.

I posted the fucking source in the post you referenced, with the intention of punching you in your faggot face before you responded "SAUCE!!!!111!!".
Fucking English teachers can't even read fucking English.

Maybe your faggot ass should go teach English to the poor, impoverished, repressed people of some AIDS ridden African nation next, you filthy fucking hippie cunt.

I sincerely hope you die receiving the gift of an African Necklace while crying "Dey Dindu Nuffins" you polesmoking vegan faggot.
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>>131159252
Thx for source. As for the rest of your post--projecting much? I am on vacation
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>>131141567
But Genghis Khan built an extremely impressive empire with an efficient bureaucracy and system of meritocracy.
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>>131159418
t. HBO subscriber
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>>131149811
The Aztecs were mercilessly subjugating rival tribes, and practiced human sacrifice on a massive scale.

I'm surprised anyone who goes on this board is stupid enough to fall for the "the Native Americans were these peace-loving, innocent enlightened flower children that whitey ruined" meme that all the good leftards ascribe to.
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>>131158248
We have these cucks who lived across the street whose children were adopted. Like typical Amerifat normies, one of them was black of course. He ended up totally nigging out, despite being raised in a white family in the suburbs, a stupid, flashy nig car, dresses like a thug, listens to hip-hop. The last time I saw him around the neighborhood was years ago. Probably in jail.
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>>131159410
>I am on vacation

You're a cunt without the ability to comprehend.
You're so used to squawking "SAUCE" as a response to seeing anything you don't like that you have lost the ability to read and utilize rational thought.

Go join the Aussie faggot who's waiting for an Official Government Funded Study to tell you that you need to shit.

Faggot.
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>>131141414
IQ is a function of education and nutrition just as much as genetics, if not more
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>>131159854
Can you provise a source that the aamd was politically pressured to lower iq because too many niggers qualified as retarded? That point is not present in the source you provided
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>>131159058
>If they have high IQ today its probably due to breeding with Chinese slaves post conquest.
Le high IQ chink maymay strikes again, Fuck off chink chang chong, you fucking peasant.
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>>131159854
>You're so used to squawking "SAUCE" as a response to seeing anything you don't like
Also I know that nuggers are subhuman trash and if I was at home I could drop multiple sources on nigger lack of intelligence
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>>131159996
Wrong. Minnesota adoption study. Niggers raised by affluent whites are dumb. Rich niggers are dumb. Niggers in africa are dumb. Niggers in white countries are dumb.

Stop defending subhuman niggers with no evidencs you fucking cuck. Find a tall building and jump off of it, faggot.
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>>131159996
Nutrition determines how much potential is reached. Genetics determines potential.

You're confusing two different categories of phenomena.

I seeEplenty of fat mexicans. They're still dumb
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>>131150825
>Muh America and random logical jumps without context to socio-economic factors.

If I fuck up your country of course there will be more murder; see Libya before and after US backed intervention.

>In b4 muh britbong are dumb so dint matter.

Most of /pol US poster postsare proof that the US nutritional and education system produces dumb isiots.
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>>131160323
Kek you seem upset.
>rich niggers are dumb
Wrong
>cites one shitty study
Kek
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>>131160508
>Most of /pol US poster posts are proof that the US nutritional and education system produces dumb idiots.
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>>131141414
Read Nyborg. People close to the equator don't have to have high IQ to survive because the seasons aren't as inhospitable. They adapt for speed/strength/reproduction.

Hispanics, etc. are just the result of interbreeding between a slightly below average European population and very low IQ native population. Spaniards being unable to keep their stupid Catholic cocks in their pants really fucked up a huge portion of the world.
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>White Mexican
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>>131160524
>Wrong
Please look at statistical data comparing affluent niggers to whites on iq and standardized tests. Rich niggers are dumber than poor whites
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>>131141414

If I was going to pull shit out of my ass, I'd guess that a large swathe of the 2intelligent4u natives lived in urban areas which made them susceptible to getting BTFO by plagues and ensuing civil strife.

That said, the average pure-blood Asiatic native that settled Mexico had a relatively comparable iq to whites, as did those that mixed with Spaniards. If there was a point where it all went wrong, it'd probably be when the Spanish imported hundreds of thousands of niggers to Mexico, who then mixed with the existing population.

In terms of ethnic fuckups in modern times, South/Central America becoming shitholes thanks to Socialism led to a lot of jungle-monkeys hopping the border to Mexico.
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>>131141414
these threads...losing hope in humanity.
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>>131160323
Not really. They scored less than their white peers, but way more than poor blacks.
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>>131160508
>socio-economic factors
Rich niggers and niggers raised by rich qhites score worse than any other group by every measurable standard except running in circles really fast
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>>131144966
200,000 Aztec lost their empire to 500 Spanish.
Everyone seems to forget the 350.000 tlaxcaltecas and other tribes that joined in the bashing.
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>>131160524

(You) wuz never smart n sheeeit. There's exceptions of course, but you nogs have to work for it harder than most. You have my condolences.
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>>131154031

kek if Asian IQs are higher doesn't it make them objectively the master race, since IQ is god?

Also, how accurate are the global IQ tests, really? What sort of research methodology was employed?
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>>131160788
yeah. So potential iq is genetic amd niggers are retarded
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As with Egyptians, their leaders were white while the brown masses were dragging stone blocks.

Eventually their leadership fled/died due to cataclysmic event and the brown masses reinhabited the constructions, carrying on the culture and eventually perverting it into human sacrifice.

It is no coincidence that all of their significant structures are ancient. If the people are the same as the ones designing them, then what's the problem? But they're not.
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>>131160903
>kek if Asian IQs are higher doesn't it make them objectively the master race, since IQ is god?
Other factors such as ingeneuity come into play butI will say this: I have just spent my first week in Japan and it is a better country and people than USA in every way. The people are polite, the food is great, the whole country is clean, and safe safe safe! In major cities people leave their bikes unlocked in public with no worries while in the US I have to lock my frame and both tires because of niggers, spics, and white trash. I really do not want to go back to the USA now
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>>131141414
Ahh, 100 spics conquered Mexico. The natives couldn't have been that clever.
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>>131142359
>Because the caste that did that was long gone by the time the Spaniards came. Remember, the Maya collapsed centuries before due to war and agricultural collapse.

Underrated, the story of the Maya is quite interesting and with all their breakthroughs they still collapsed, The Aztecs had nothing on them and just like Ancient Egypt, Babylon, Ancient Greece, Rome etc they fell. It's almost like human civilizations go through cycles, and maybe it's the turn of whites.
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>>131161210

how the fuck do you objectively even measure things like ingenuity, self control, concentration, creativity, emotional control, etc? All you can really measure is IQ and even that isn't completely perfect.

Also, as I said, which studies or study do people look at when looking at global IQ? Are there multiple ones with different scores? What methods were employed? did they have an agenda in mind? etc

Also do you speak nihongo anon?
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>>131160877
T. Indio
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>>131160062
>Can you provise a source
>>131160183
>sources

SAUCE, SAUCE, SAUCE.

You can't contradict what I posted, so you want to pretend it doesn't exist.

Fuck off, cunt.

I posted SAUCE. Even my pic had your revered SAUCE.

The holy Government finally admitted in public that you need to shit at least once a day. Go take a shit. You'll feel better. And, It's Government Approved!

Yes, Virginia, you can now take a dump without guilt. The Righteous Government gave you permission.

http://scienceblogs.com/mikethemadbiologist/2010/09/22/how-to-take-a-government-appro/
>you might think that collecting poop is straightforward. You would be wrong. We actually have to be quite rigorous about poop collection. For example, we don’t some stools sitting around at room temperature and in the presence of oxygen, which allows some bacteria to grow while others can’t (many will die in the presence of oxygen).

This becomes even more complicated, since there are 300 people being sampled. Most people don’t poop on command, and following them around with buckets isn’t really practical–not to mention, incredibly creepy. Fortunately, we have detailed instructions for our volunteers.
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>>131160903

>if Asian IQs are higher doesn't it make them objectively the master race, since IQ is god

IQ represents a very broad set of mental characteristics, which is why it can be applied to lads as disparate as writers and physicists with some degree of accuracy.

Asians can do damn good work, but they're not too great in the innovation department on an individual level, which is why they gravitate towards authoritarian government.
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>>131146605
>Crying in Nahuatl
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>>131159418
and it lasted like 20 years
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>>131161507

The thing is, that IQ part is objectively measured and you can look at the sources of the studies. Your statement about innovation is, as far as I am aware, pure conjecture. And besides, you only need to look at Japs to see it ain't true.
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>>131141414
Their IQ ranges from 85 to 90. I guess that's enough for being able to build a rich civilization (Arabs, Indians, South Asians, Turks have similar IQs). The question is, why American niggers are given an IQ of 85. That's way too high if we consider their real intelligence / civilization capability. I guess they should be around 75, just higher than their African counterparts.
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>>131161469
How is that relevant tyrone?
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>>131153342
La mélenchiasse qui se ramène pour balancer sa connerie.
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>>131160508
>muh black British.
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>>131161821
>muh objectivism
Here is your objective measurment: go leave a bike unlocked in nigger, white, and different asian cultures and then correlate your missing bikes with shitskin iq
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>>131161210
>In major cities people leave their bikes unlocked in public with no worries
In Spain, during Franco's regime (before mass immigration), people left unlocked their house doors. You're proving nothing.
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>>131162677
>You're proving nothing
So you're saying low iq shitskins move in and it's suddenly unsafe? Gj arguing for my point
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>>131161862
How did you measure pre hispanic mexica's IQ? Or are you implying that the present mexica's descendants IQ is the same?
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>>131162583
>go leave a bike unlocked in nigger, white, and different asian cultures and then correlate your missing bikes with shitskin iq

Sauce?
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>>131162779
I am still waiting on the source for political pressure to lower iq because too many niggers qualified as retarded. I really want to believe it
>>
My theory is that low-IQ people need a strong authoritarian regime led by the high-IQ people to guide them to success.
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>>131162769
I'm implying it is the same.
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>>131141414
Read about Cortez. He and a couple of dozen soldiers with 3 matchlock rifles and 6 horses beat a hundred thousand fierce Aztec warriors with razor sharp obsidian clubs. Who had been fighting among each other for a thousand years.

They ran screaming into the jungle where most of them starved to death after Cortez cut Montezuma's head off and threw it at them.
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>>131141414
>>TLDR: why isn't Mexico the center of astronomical technology today?
Lack of will.
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>>131162583

what the fuck does your statement have to do with mine? I said IQ IS objective, but those other traits aren't. You can assign theft to socio-economic figures, for example, or culture. There isn't an objective, falsifiable study or method of analysis for loyalty, self-control, peacefulness etc like there is for IQ.
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>>131163014
cont.

Cortez and his soldiers and friars raped the Aztec women all day and night. That is why all mexicans have spanish surnames and speak a slang version of the spanish language.
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>>131162875
>I really, really, REALLY need to poop, but I have to wait for an official government study to tell me it's OK.

Let me know how that works out for you.
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>>131163014
I believe this just as much as i believe that niggers were KANGZ, go read a fucking book before you post dumb shit nigger.
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It was all build by afro alyums
Spic crackas kill the brothas and use pyramid in their crooked whitey rituals
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>>131141414
We wuz, but now we wuzn't
>>
How does it feel to fuck a Amerindian?
>>
Perhaps the tip top high IQ folks became ultra influential due to specific regional circumstances and convinced the rest of the civilisation to build their dreams.

"The "gods" command that you like, move these rocks n sheeit."

"Holy fuck if the gods said it we'd better get cracking."
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>>131162889
That's how the world works right now. They just need to polish the way the guide/educate their people.
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>>131163302
It feels better than fucking a subhuman dog eating soulless gook.
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>>131142174

DONT.

All the indias pictured look like a cross between an umpalumpa, a troglodite, and a bridge troll.
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>>131143289
t indio

Cry harder argentina
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>>131163236
... so you're guessing that that is what happened. I am inclined to agree with you but I will not be using it as an argument while trying to redpill people irl. I back my statements up with facts and statistics and it is so good to see them go silent and call me racist because they have no other recourse
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>>131143289
Yeah it's all da guero man fault.
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>>131163444
How do you know ?You fucking spic
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>>131142174
She will turn into a fat brown goblin by age 25 or her first child, whichever comes first
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>>131163302
>How does it feel to fuck a Amerindian?

Ever taken a nap while your 350lb sister snuck into your room to try to steal your clean underwear?

It kinda feels like that, except with more crying and shame.
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>>131144564
Excellent. Sounds like you'd make an excellent Supervisor gardener.

Now go tell dumber mejis to pull my weeds.
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>>131144589
GDL has so many white people. That's why they are actually beautiful women there.
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>>131145244
Then there really was no potential.
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>>131143215
>>Being a disgusting taco muncher
My Dad calls them pepper bellies.

sidebar: do you think jap moot could make the capcha a little slower?
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>>131163733
I guess you're riight, fucking a gook would feel better since you gooks have such petite dicks that it would feel like fucking a virgin.
and i also fucked a Japanese milf back in 2002 on a ski trip to Vermont, she was tight.
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>>131143708
>South American natives reached early bronze age tech
Hopewell indians worked copper into tools, decorative objects and weapons.
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>>131164036
>mexican literacy
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>>131152245
Well spain wanted all our land at one point so...
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>>131164036
Also,
>muh dick
lmao at you resorting to what niggers consider an argument
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>>131164227
That all you have? Gook.
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>>131164333
Take a walk in a forrest you fucking soulless animal.
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>>131164381
>Gook
reading is hard, innit?
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>>131144564
You are clearly too smart to be a leaf blowing gardener. Do you know anything about swimming pool maintenance?
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>>131164469
You're all the same shit, you're like a light skin pajeet.
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>>131142174

Nay.

They get fat as fuck m8
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>>131163615
>... so you're guessing

I'm guessing that you're a ball-gargling cumdumpster faggot who wears a studded leather jockstrap to Thanksgiving dinner with his grandmother.

I don't even have to wait for the Official Government Approved Study to feel this way.

There's no debate with cunts like you; when proven wrong, you just pretend to be retarded, and then start arguing tomorrow like today never happened.

>The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
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>>131162677
It's still like that in my dad's village in alentejo, actually really close to spain
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>>131164619
>proven
source?
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>>131165051
>source

Your mother's gaijin conquered crotch cannon.
>I-I'm just larping as a zipperhead
faggot.
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>>131141414
>the nations south of the border haven't retained their natural prowess in science, specifically math and

What prowess was that?
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>>131165563
>I-I'm just larping as a zipperhead
I thought you could read
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>>131165755
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>>131141414
Hispanics are not as smart as whites, but smarter than nigs

As we can see, they didnt do as well as whites, but did significantly better than nigs in terms of achievement and society

>>131143289
The fact you/we were able to be destroyed says something
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>>131141414

The native Americans were unmixed, the Iberian admixture turned them into a mongrel race and now they are inferior savages only barely superior to the negroes.
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>>131166088

mongrelization in itself isn't inherently bad, especially when mixed with a population that is resistant to certain diseases or has a higher IQ or other desirable traits.
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