First the people in a blue, Hillary-voting state, Colorado, overwhelmingly vote to reject single-payer during last November's election (pic related), and now California, which has a Democratic Governor and Democratic super-majority in its State Assembly, has all but scrapped their universal health care bill today.
Because single would be shit with our open border policies. Look how bad obama care is.
>>131132968
California has no fucking way to pay for universal healthcare when they're bleeding money and taxpayers. They know if they raise taxes further they'll just chase even more people out [spoiler]and turn Texas into a blue state[/spoiler]
>>131132968
The US has a much large patient population and less doctors per head then all the countries with a single payer system. Also the US has always had a much higher standard for health care when it is available. We don't want a system like the UK where people die on waiting lists just to see a specialist.
>>131133148
This
>>131133148
>We don't want a system like the UK where people die on waiting lists just to see a specialist.
Yeah, you go to the VA for that.
>>131132968
>Hoards of dumb niggers and other low IQ filth being a colossal burden
>fat cunts being an even more colossal burden in the long run
Healthy homogenous high IQ countries should have Socialized medicine. Everyone else can't.
Why is it such a bad idea in the minds of Americans? Because they've been brainwashed to believe since birth that government intervention is bad in the marketplace, what do you think?
>>131132968
dude, its simple, the private insurance industry is like 500 billion or so. single-payer puts them out of a job. are they not going to lobby it to death? fucking duh. how stupid are people to not get this simple concept.
which is not to say they dont deserve to be put out of business, they really serve no useful purpose, they deny care, make doctors work harder, and only serve wall street.
>>131133428
Didn't trump just sign some bill today that reformed the VA?
>>131132968
niggers
>>131133475
Before Medicare part D and obama care health insurance was good in America. Thanks government for fucking up health care.
You would need to completely rebuild the american healthcare system. Everything is expensive for no reason.
>>131132968
how can it be a flop if it's never been implemented?
>>131133091
Welcome to /pol/. We don't have spoilers here because it's always happening.
>>131133428
The VA sucks cuz it's affirmative action medicine. It's where all the minorities that couldn't get real jobs go to work
>>131134107
No, no it wasn't.
>>131133471
>brainwashed
Look what the government has done to the cost of higher education here. Ironically they've made it more expensive to get brainwashed.
>>131132968
> single-payer
> implying i want to pay for minority diabetes
>>131132968
It's almost september 23 so nobody has wormwood insurance
>>131133428
do you prove the point that gov run healthcare is bad ironically or was that unintentional?
>>131137477
It costs less and people live longer and innovate. But that is too left wing for america. Doesnt help the nose enough
>>131133148
Dying while on a waiting list vs just dying because you couldn't afford the treatment.
>>131137742
Who died? Because it would be all over the news a billions time.
>>131132968
cause fuck you lol
>>131132968
our situation is fucked either way, we pay over 600 billion for medicare which is only 65+, brits only pay 150 for everyone. Obviously we would pay more because of a larger population, but adding what we already pay for medicaid to medicare, it would be way less to have NHS level care across the country.
>>131136485
the doctors are mostly good to go from what I've experienced, its the nigger support staff that's the problem.