What's it like fighting in a war? An military vets here?

>>131128078
never fought in a war but i've had bunch of niggers shoot at me before. pretty scary experience.

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>>131128078
Loud,scary & stressful to the max its just random violent nonsense

>>131128956
where'd you fight?

>>131128078
Bump for interest. Am I insane for wanting to see combat?

It depends what war we are talking about exactly. WW1, for example, most of the time they did nothing else besides sitting in the trenches all day. It's not really that bad. The demonization of war is one of the main reasons for the pussyfication of the western societies.

>>131129704
t. WW1 veteran

>>131129704
Not that bad? Sorry but that sounds ignorant as fuck.

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surreal.... you know it after the music stops and you have time to think about it.

>>131129704
>WW1 wasnt bad
You stupid fuck you try sitting half starved in an almost flooded rathole being constantly shelled watching your friends drown in oceans of mud. WW1 was insane. I'd rather fight in WW2.

>>131128078
I'll tell you one thing and one thing only before I kill myself

There's nothing scarier than automatic gunfire aimed at you. You never know when it's gonna stop. One guy could stop shooting and his buddy picks up the slack and covers his friend. You'd think you'd be used to it playing video games but it's different. Out in real life you have no control over when it stops, or starts. It's chaos

>>131128078
OEF 2010.

Kandahar province (Zhari/Maiwand districts) and Helmand (Sangin)

US Army

FML.

AMA I guess. Occasionally post in these. Usually find a few from the same area and or time.

I've never been in direct combat, just a fobbit as they called it. but while over in the middle east my buddies who got to spend time outside the wire told me that you pretty much just "let your training" takeover, as cliche as it sounds. they seem to also say it's not until after that it really hits you that bullets missed them by less than a foot, if they went left instead of right they would have been killed, etc. I think that's why alot of the mental health stuff doesn't hit until they're home and start realizing how crazy everything was. they try to adjust to being home again and its like they can t turn it off. hell, my deployments were hard to adjust coming back home and the closest I got was a few dozen mortars being fired off maybe once a month, and I was at least several hundred yards away.

source - corpsman burger veteran (currently in flipland on vacation with the qt3.14)

>>131128078
it's absolutely boring and bullshit 99% and chaos, noise and terror 1% of the time
there's nothing glamorous about it because it's such a ridiculous disaster when engage the enemy
no one really knows where gunfire is coming from or if the explosion was a mortar or IED or RPG
the fog of war is the only thing that you really learn about

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>>131129378
Non,I just read up on the history of conflicts+modern documentation of war

>>131130016
Was a 12B. Did route clearance.

>>131128078
Look up the definition of mercenary. That is all the US military is as a all volunteer force; additionally, the constitution doesn't even allow there to be a active duty Army in USA, only a Navy... The US Army is nothing but an illegally funded mercenary force, which makes sense seeing how the globalists are using them for anything other then protecting our freedom. But, that's what they get for being war profiteers.

>>131129486
No, just young, full of cum, and naive.

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>>131129704
> It's not really that bad.

>>131130016
Did you ever kill anyone or almost got killed yourself?

>>131129980
Why are you going to kill yourself? What happened?

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I was conscript in Mariupol at 2015 it's is horrible experience. Uncomfortable, no sleep, bad food, every persons drinking and smoking and easy to get angry, combat is dangerous and you most never see who shoots to you. War is bad, violence is better. Kill enemies when they can't fight you like Volyn. Now I just want to make money from USA to go back and buy apartment in Dnipro

>>131130341
Don't worry about it

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>>131130016
looking back- was it a worthwile experience? are you a better man after all of it? I know I sound like a mongoloid with this naievete of a question

>>131130138
in a buffalo?

>>131129704
Must be bait

>>131129486
Many people thrive in combat. Leon Degrelle, Mad Jack Churchill, and Carton de Wiart are examples. Men do not voluntarily return to non-existential war because they hate war. Humans are apex predators and a bit of sociopathy and autism is adaptive to war.

Everything we do, we evolved to do. That includes war. The modern pacifist worldview is very new and IMO badly naive and mistaken.

>>131128956
I understand. I too live near negroes

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>>131130439
come on, gramps. tell us the story of your friends dying or whatnot

>>131129704
You're a stupid fuck. Why don't you go breathe in chlorine gas, it's >not that bad after all.

>>131128078
My father was in Vietnam, 3rd battalion 4th marines. He used to wake up in a sweat, run to the bathroom and splash water on his face and just scream "Get it together bobby!" I used to stay up all night cause I was scared of him, he would be coaching me in football, basketball, and baseball during the day and be a great dad but then at night he be tossing and turning. This was probably 2004-2005ish when I was around 12 and he was in his mid 50s. But before then When he did it i thought nothing of it. Hes gotten better and Ive talk about vietnam with him a few times but it was funny stories. But on my 19th birthday I had a beer with him and asked him about it, and he almost broke down cause he felt as if he betrayed my trust as a father to keep him safe when he thought when he'd wake up or remember Vietnam, he was putting me in danger. He said how he would see NVA killing him in his dreams and shit and he couldnt move a limb but he standing up and just screaming. It hasnt been bad like that since though, we play golf almost every saturday and go out for lunch after.

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>>131130439
What happened bro?

>>131130282
I shot 3 ppl carrying a recoilless rifle and it's tripod one day in Zhari from the back hatch of my buffalo with my 249. Can't say for sure they died but I shot them several times.

Hell I ran the arm on the buffalo - shooting shit wasn't my job but it was high off the ground and nobody else could see them over the vineyard walls so I had to do it.

>>131130606
Yeah I think so.

Started a business with one of my deployment buddies and its going pretty good.

The only vets who still exist are vietnam vets in retirement homes. All the "vets" who served in Iraq/Afghanistan didn't do jack shit. The vast majority sit around on a base playing xbox or doing some bullshit logistics work.

Granted, I'm not saying non-combat roles aren't important. But we've been trained to venerate all "vets" equally, when in reality only a small portion have ACTUALLY fought for our country (or ZOG, rather)

>>131130658
Yeah i ran the arm.

Disarmed 37.

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>>131128078
It's pretty kick ass when you're on the winning team.

>>131130056
>it's absolutely boring and bullshit 99% and chaos, noise and terror 1% of the time
That was exaclty what I meant in >>131129704, don't know why all the drama. There is nothing special about wars, it's something humans are doing since the beginning of times, for fuck's sake.

>>131131618
There are definitely vets who served in Iraq or Afghanistan who saw real combat. I remember meeting a guy at my friends wedding who got shot up pretty bad and couldn't walk very well. Cool guy, still had a sense of humor.

Just don't generalize like that.

>>131130016
Does killing niggers feel as good as we think it does

>>131132013

>>cringe
>>edgy
>>etc

Navy Aviation Maintenance.

Went to Djibouti once. And Kandahar. Nothing of note - every now and then in Afghanistan the mortar/rocket warnings would go off. Most of us just said fuck it and kept working.

The flight deck is a different story. I've seen some pretty horrific injuries up there - and maybe 1/3 of the time it's shit that's beyond the maintainer's control.

Was on the deck when a CAD blew up a maintainers head. We did a FOD walkdown for pieces of this dude's skull. A sister squadron recovered a jet in VA that came off the ship - a handler stood up while it was launching to grab somebody that was in the way. A missile hit that back of his head and ripped it off. It was squeezed over the missile when it got to VA. There are pictures of it somewhere. I've seen a jet roll over a dude's fut and up his leg. It looked like when Bugs Bunny plugs Elmer Fudd's shotgun - it split outwards up to the knee.

A while ago, the arresting cable snapped and took out like 8 people. Mind you, this is 7 steel wire ropes wound together to form one cable about 3 inches in diameter. You do NOT want this to happen. IIRC, one dude had to get life-flighted off the carrier with arterial bleeding.

Its fucking dangerous on the roof. You have extremely heavy equipment, jet engines (intake and exhaust), moving hydraulic surfaces, launching/recovering aircraft, live ordinance, and jet fuel. Add into the equation the fact that a good 20% of people up there are fucking retarded. Plus, you're about 60ft above the water on a ship that is moving pretty fast. And its upwards of 100 degrees and you're wearing pants, a long sleeve turtleneck, and a full helmet. Sometimes at night.

>>131132102
Ebin memewords.

>>131128078

Boring, boring, boring, boring, until suddenly it's not and then it becomes extremely stressful with bouts of horror

One thing I think the right has to come to terms with is that there is very little honor to be had in modern war. Yes, individual men can be honorable, and act bravely and nobly in war. But the majority of the time - overall - war is a horror

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>>131128078
>What's it like fighting in a war?
You're going to find out.

>>131132093
Can't say for sure....when I shot those guys the area was so hot we didn't stick around for BDA

>Patiently waiting for that one US marine to come in going "IT WAS AWESOME. HOLY FUCK I MISS IT."

>>131129704
kys... just leave some space for more valuable being
https://youtu.be/SS1dO0JC2EE

>>131129704
you're ignorant as fuck

>>131129704
you have to be kidding, sitting in a trench waiting for the artillery strikes is way worse than actual fighting, at least you are occupied.

I spoke to a guy once who actually enjoyed it and said he has no regrets.

>>131128078
Noise, confusion, friends who are just as scared as you, and others who almost seem like they have fun.

>>131132715
Artillery shells almost never reached the trenches, mate.

>>131132689
Yeah buddy, are you sure?

Jesus, am I in reddit or what?

>>131131239
My dad was in nam too. No flashbacks, but when we went for walsk in the woods he would ALWAYS look around like he was trying to find something on the ground. He said it was training in his head to check for traps and VC, he couldnt turn it off.

>>131131618
huh?

I literally work with a WWII vet who just volunteers for fun. He was also in Korea.

>>131132748
Probably the same people who run most of the businesses.

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>>131128078
Dad fought in Vietnam. Never kept guns in the house. Would wake up screaming at night.

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>>131132909

Shit food in the form of MRE's. Baseline anxiety that is just below the surface. An eventual resignation that if a bullet has your name on it there is nothing you can do. It is much like going to school in Chicago.

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Will dump a few pics for you guys.

Here was my disarm counter (ended at 37)

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>>131128078
do rising storm or red orchestra count?

>>131128078
Organized chaos is how it always felt to me. <2>

>>131129978
the people in the trenches were actually fed better than they were used to back at home

>>131132748
I spoke to a guy once that said he fucked your mom

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>>131133153
no u

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>>131133268
CF was for "crooked finger, a buddy who got shot in the neck and died


Pic was my view looking to the front

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>>131132909
>Artillery shells almost never reached the trenches
these dead germans suggest otherwise faggot

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>>131133396

A random dust storm. That is a husky in front of me

>>131133396
With the wet wipes, did you ever notice that pulling them out one-by-one never really works and eventually you jsut take the lid off and grab a few then close it back up again?

>>131130036
>Corpsman

>Fugging Filipino lady boys

It checks out

>>131133329
fed fuckin' artillery shells by the thousands

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>>131133522
Yeah. Are you me?

That was a sugar free grape rip it next to my box.

>>131133424
These are shellholes on no man's land. try harder.

>>131133734
thats a german dugout you fucking idiot. there werent dugouts in no mans land

>>131133013
>Walks in the woods with dad
jesus.....When I was 6 I remember going in my dads shitty 1996 Jeep cherokee and going to local marshlands and walking for hours on hours just exploring nature. He never looked around though, Maybe he did and I just didnt notice.

loud and boring, lots of noise, you just kind of try to ignore the noise and shoot at the other blokes for a while. The sun is very bright and hot, and is the worst part about the whole business

>>131133493
>>131133396

Thanks for sharing man.

>>131128078
Depends on the person. It's exhilarating to some, terrifying to others

>>131128164
Share story

>>131130036

Ur kid will be a depressed hapa

>>131129704

>WW1
>not that bad
>pictures of men starving in dirt holes for months seeing rats eat the dead bodies of their fallen brothers

This better be bait.

>>131133013
An old rancher I knew from the VA went missing one day while out tending his cattle. The next day they found him under a bush in a fetal position quivering and almost catatonic. A jet broke the sound barrier over him and he absolutely freaked out. One of the best men I ever knew, he died from brain cancer about a decade ago.

>>131128078

A bit off topic, but something that's always interested me was how we never really hear about soldiers who enjoyed their time fighting in a war. I guess in situations like WW2 with the entire backing of your country it can be easier, but still, I have to imagine there were actually a good amount of US soldiers in Vietnam who actually had a somewhat positive experience at the end of it all. Might sound fucked up but really, there are definitely soldiers who enjoyed roaming around the jungle like mad men hunting down Charlie.

>>131133673
If you pull out that wire, will they die?

>>131133734
also you realize that by ww1 long range artillery had taken over and could fire for miles. You think that both sides just decided to concentrate all artillery fire into no mans land, which would have much less effect since theres of course, no men there. The trenches came about specifically to hide from artillery and it helped to an extent but direct hits on trenches were very common, thus the creation of dugouts and zig zag trenches that would concentrate the shock wave into smaller portions of the trench to save men. Idk why im even replying to this b8 honestly but if youre being serious fucking kys

>>131134283
One of the most persistent follies of youth is overestimating the excitement and underestimating the awfulness of war

Im in the Marines. HAvent been deployed yet. Hope to one day shoot someone in combat and get my CAR.

>>131134039
No problem thank you.

I'm a degenerate alcoholic with chronic PTSD/agoraphobia/anxiety/insomnia/paranoia but can wake up early and work hard so my business is doing pretty well.

I just hate every moment of my existence. I'm not a quitter so no suicide and I care too much for family and friends. Sadly from my platoon of 28, 9 are now dead from accidental OD/KIA/suicide.

I try to succeed for all of them even though I fucking hate almost everything and everyone. My business partner and I deployed together and are trying to pick up the slack.

Trying to post more pics but for whatever reason imgur mobile is garbage and I can't click on my photos on three

your instincts as a hunter come out in war

it's kill or be killed. Lay a good ambush; don't get figured out, or you're fucking dead.

>>131134376
Lol na. That was the aux in for the camera on a CROW system.

>Loading up in the trucks while I pull security.
>Little afghan boys throwing rocks at us again.
>One doesn't see me as he rounds the corner with half a brick in his hand.
>I backhand him so fucking hard right in the eye.
>Little faggot drops hard, moans and clutches his eye.
>I load up in the truck and drive back to the FOB.
>Just another day in Jalalabad.

>>131128078
Long periods of boredom followed by short periods of terror

>>131134355

The thing is, you can hate something and like something at the same time

Like take the guys in trenches during WW1, for a small, simple example.

The disease, and the dread, and everything about the trenches could suck. And going over into no-man's land could feel like a march into a meat grinder. But it could result in an amazing sense of triumph, like nothing else in the world, when you actually routed the enemy. And victory could cause such a sense of relief that nothing could compare to it.

But that doesn't mean you'd do it again.

Listen, I know every young guy wants to dream that they'd be THAT badass who would thrive in war. And maybe people like that even exist. But it is much better for you if you know that the vast majority of people who SAY that they were like that are lying: either they didn't do much during the war and they just want people to think they are a badass, or they feel defensive, feel like they'd be admitting cowardice if they talked about how shitty it was.

War is not fun, and there's nothing really romantic about it in the slightest.

>>131133673
Might want to use some clear judgement on which pics you post. If some of the systems shown in your pics are 'classified', then you're going to get in deep shit. Yes, the DoD can subpoena 4chan for your IP. Careful with the drunk-posting bro.

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>>131128164
i know this feel, was diagnosed with severe PTSD resulting from the incident also (inb4 only vets can get PTSD).
for the record i still believe in gun rights more than ever, if my country allowed me to conceal carry a firearm i might not be suffering from this condition.
still considering accepting an interview by a foreign media outlet after i was denied disability payments despite constant flashbacks 24 hours a day.

>>131134920

>either they didn't do much during the war and they just want people to think they are a badass, or they feel defensive, feel like they'd be admitting cowardice if they talked about how shitty it was.

That makes sense. So much of it is cultural too. Although I really don't know, I imagine the mindset of the average Mongol warrior ravaging Westward was a lot different than the warriors of today.

>>131134716
Not much to add other than i acknowledge your hard work.

>>131134355
Ive read lots of special forces vets are like this.
You hear em in interviews and they talk about it like its just another job. But also admit that they wanted to get action and would be miffed any time they missed out and stayed at base.

I probably wouldn't personally have known someone who committed suicide without the military and my deployments.

My room mate from Iraq, my gunner in Afghanistan, a State Dept guy from Afghanistan. Some others.

>>131132909
Just stop posting...

>>131135272
Thanks for the advice brother - there's nothing there that isn't readily available all over the net or that one NatGeo show. I'm many things but not that dumb : D

>>131134920
Most grunts are pretty honest now days, lots of stolen valor and pogs though. If you listen to any grunt war is 99% boring. Long distance engagements and you just kind of zone out a bit, the horror stories come from the door kicking.

>>131135444
>that one NatGeo show
Which show? Just got a cable package which includes NatGeo and I need things to watch.

>>131129704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Pd527GN48

>>131134435
>direct hits on trenches were very common
No it wasn't. There was no such thing as direct artillery fire in WW1 yet. You're dumb as fuck.

>>131135808
so why were trenches zig zagged? enlighten me

>>131135342
Yeahit's a real thing.

If I can ever earn enough dough I'll fund research proving TBI greatly increases the likelihood of PTSD/suicide. It has to. After taking a few ieds that cause concussions the person changes. Seen it many times.

I used to be very very smart but I had 6 concussions in 1 year (3ied, 1 mortar, 1 bullet hitting the glass in my truck where my face was - knocking me out, and one just accidentally banging my head) and I'm not so smart anymore and developed a slight lisp, stutter and random body tics.

Tis life I guess.

>>131129704
Pretty good bait, I'd give it a 1914/1918

>>131129704
>It's not really that bad.
Sure thing, kid. I bet you're basing your opinion on a video game, right?
Go read a book or two, about the horrors of the WWI battlefields. Better, go subscribe to Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast, and listen to the "Blueprint for Armageddon" series, which goes into depth into the horrors of WWI. Those episodes are still free. Go listen, and then come back and tell us all it wasn't that bad. You child.

>>131134716

Do you wish patton had invaded soviet union?

>>131129704
This is either bait or a femalepost.

Females will gladly send men to die by the millions to keep the welfare flowing for women.

Had a friend whose dad served 3 tours in Iraq. Whenever he'd come back he'd drive around boxes or trash on the roads.
One day he bought an AK-47 and it spooked his wife pretty bad so now there are no guns in the house.

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>>131130439
>if doubles you tell the story and get MDMA therapy instead

>>131128164
Meh, had a nog on PCP try to rob and kill me before. I bucked up to him once I realized his intent, ended his power trip even though he had a gun and backed down. Decided that if he was going to kill me anyways, might as well fight back and if I died, I died defending myself.

Felt good to be honest, let me know that when my life was on the line I wasn't a coward. Nothing like mortal fear or your life being threatened, at the age of 19, to make you feel alive.

Like most young men, I romanticized the idea of being a soldier, and I think I would've appreciated it if I did it, if it wasn't so fucked up. You have to break your moral code and kill innocents, civilians, women, and children. I'm not OK with that. There's no honor in war, and those with it are demonized, like the guy who tried to stop the Mai Lai massacre. You get told to slaughter kids, you do it, or else. You are less human after doing shit like that.

>>131135906
>TBI greatly increases the likelihood of PTSD/suicide
Pretty sure studies have already been done that show that.

>>131129704
I'm sure you've been told a million times already, but you're a fucking idiot.

If I had to fight in any war in history, WWI would probably be my last choice. Sounds like straight up hell.

>>131135837
They were made like that so that if an enemy soldier somehow made it into their trench he couldn't fire straight down the line.

>>131136254
*laughing emoji*

AIPAC is a mistake

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It's like "Call of Duty" at least that's what I have been brainwashed to believe since I was a kid. In reality it's more like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU0wtosYsYY

>>131136340
not an argument

>>131128078
The only relative who I knew served in the military and actively fought was a great uncle, who was in the Marines, and served in the Pacific. He wouldn't talk about it, until the day he died, he'd just shake his head. The only thing we know is he was in the Pacific, and he lost his brother there. He had scars, but he wouldn't talk about it. We're trying to get his info to get his records, to find out where he fought.

>>131129704
Damn nice fucking bait

>>131134716
What causes all of this pain? What did you experience over there?

I mean no disrespect by this but I just can't comprehend something that would cause all of that. It's just foreign to me.

>>131129980
And you don't know where it I'd coming from too. That's the scary part. Think your behind cover, nope.

>>131129704

WWI is said to be the worst war that was ever fought in human history. I know most anons here are on the young side, but if interested, take a little look at a book called All Quiet on the Western Front

>>131135968
Frankly I don't know enough about the situation.

Would have been bloody and prolonged though. It would have prevented the Cold War one way or another though and who knows what the globe would look like without it. No Korean/Vietnam war most likely and South America would probably be better off.

>>131128078
In battle zones.... snipers everywhere. imagine knowing every minute could be your last and you could die every moment. The tension drives you insane.

>>131136502
The argument ended when you claimed there was no such thing as indirect artillery fire in ww1, despite rifled, cartridge, recoil absorbing artillery pieces used that had ranges of miles. Not to mention the paris gun

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>>131129704
>WWI
>not that bad

>>131130138
is 12B worth it? Would you do 12B in a Nork conflict?

>>131136232
Nah, Civil War was the worst. At least in WWI there was rudimentary emergency medical support - the wounded in the Civil War went through more horrors, like having limbs cut off with no drugs to knock you out, and infection was most likely going to kill you, anyway.

Served in 'Nam, drafted.

Scared out of my mind until we reach the country. I don't know why, but I loved it all. Shit base, shit weather, shit enemy, shit food. Yet, when the shooting started or even just laying out watching artillery and aircraft light up the jungle it makes you feel alive.

After the war I needed more and hopped conflict to conflict all across the world. Shoot people here, blow up stuff there. Those 3rd world countries and little known battles where heaven to guys like me.

Wounds and age catch up quick, especially when you live so hard. Sit more than I stand, arms don't like lifting anything more than a cane, going blind and have tinnitus. The physical degration sit right next to the mental. Flashbacks, paranoia, inappropriate muscle memory.

It was a hell of a ride, and I don't plan on having death take me easy, but I feel the years.

>>131135330

I don't know really, man. What we hear about today is a very foggy image of men on horseback ravaging cities.

What doesn't get mentioned is that a huge portion of the Mongolian Hordes probably died of the plague.

I think war back then was also a lot different from modern war. So much of modern war is so random, and seems so meaningless. You could be killed without ever knowing you were even being aimed at, just immediately having your head blown off, no skill saving you. And it would only get worse if we were up against an actual enemy who could stand toe to toe to us.

Like, there are some aircraft we have where, once they get above the enemy, literally all they can really do is wait to die. That's a lot of modern war - wait to be killed by something you can't even see.

>>131136802
nice LARP, show proofs

Real war is all about politics.

The public want a quick and fast war, but remember that shortest wars are also the most radical. This leads to commanders and officers being given deadlines.
>For example: "We need to have Baghdad by November!"
With deadlines, the command takes a step back to view the battlefield and the objective. This dehumanizes soldiers and that's when the madness truly begins.

>>131136728
Penicillin didn't exist in ww1 either. If you got just as much as a flesh wound, dying from sepsis was a very possible outcome. And that's just when you survived artillery, machine gun and sniper fire.

>>131136728
ACW casualties : 620,000 battlefield dead

WWI casualties :17 million battlefield dead

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>>131136065
>MDMA therapy
where is it legal?, i already considered going to amsterdam or SE asia to trip on legal shrooms.

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>>131136802
>guys like me

yeah sure

>>131136728
At least they had morphine by that point, where you could wallow in numbness for the rest of your life after getting your limbs hacked off. It also made the process a lot less painful.

The Civil War would be pretty low on my list as well, but I'd take it over sitting in a trench, watching my friends getting eaten by rats, getting shelled every day for months on end while I starve and have my feet rot, only to be gassed at the end in the most painful and excruciating way possible.

>>131136694
> indirect artillery fire
I never said that. I said there was no precise artillery fire and most of the shells didn't hit the trenches system.

>>131136583
I wouldn't call it pain perse....more a "painful existence".

Buddies dying violently, the constant stress of potential death/permanent maiming (my job was to search and disarm IEDs), the realization we were there for no reason other than to feed the private military industrial complex, civilian mass casualties from ieds I missed while interrogating the exact spot the ied was (happened twice) and constant dread.

>>131129978
Autism. WW2 was x10 worse than WW1

>>131134355
My buddies grandfather was part of the seal team operating in nam, and went on to go spy on Russian subs at the North Pole. He said sometimes it was fun, other times just adrenaline, he ran away from home t 14 before joining up, said he was born with an angry personality. He's a really nice guy but my buddy said he used to wake up in the middle of the night and grab his gun, or go 10,000 yard stare at the range, but he's mellowed out a lot .Hes got fucking crazy stories about what they did, but he told us no matter how scary the shit he did sounded, the CIA guys he saw did shit that was way worse, and stuck with him.

>>131133329
>>131129704
I suggest you read All is Quiet on the Western Front by Remarque. That should enlighten you.

>>131128078
I remember hating it at the time and really wanting to go home. Now I really miss it and want to go back as bad as I wanted to go home back then.

>>131136728
Naah WW1 still has it beat because of the technology/tactics gap. You had retards using Napoleonic War maneuvers against machine gun nests. At least during the Civil War it was a bit more of a consistent playing field.

>>131128078
Boring, and hot always fucking hot, except at night then sometimes it's too damn cold. Worst part is you don't usually even get to shoot anyone or even shoot at them.

War is hard work. It stinks and you get no sleep. You acquire a skill to fall asleep instaneously when a possibility arrive and wake up 10 minutes later.

>>131136802
I've heard a lot of vets ends up depressed as they miss all the action. Did this happen to you?

>>131137131
American pls, I know you fuckers have a hardon for WW2 but it was a pillow fight compared to shit like the Somme.

>>131136711
Yeah. Once you catch a taste it doesn't go away.

Mostly though I'd just want to take care of the poor draftees who didn't intentionally get into the shit and haven't previously been in combat.

>>131137076
the sheer amount of shells being fired negates the fact they couldnt drop each individual round in a precise spot. look up the barrage before the somme.

>>131136962
Decriminalized in Portugal, maybe a few other places. I don't think shrooms are legal in SEA, places are just able to sell it because they pay off the cops. Definitely has the power to change your outlook though.

I think Europe has places that treat PTSD with MDMA, ibogaine, and psychedelics. Some have government clearance for running studies, while others exist in legal grey areas, but without government interference.

>>131137087
I know this probably doesn't help but you couldn't control most of that.

I'm sorry you went through all of that.

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My dad was in Vietnam and he talks about it like it was a great time. He's absolutely out of his mind and very prone to violence to say the least, though. He was injured in close combat and lost his hand so they sent him back, and he says the worst thing that happened to him in Vietnam is getting sent home while there was still plenty of fighting and killing to do.

He's an obvious exception though the guy was made for combat. In another life he probably would have been a general or something. It's really cool to talk to him though because he's totally open about his experience in combat and doesn't freak out about it like what seems to be the vast majority of Vietnam veterans.

>>131137195
Worst feeling ever. It's almost like you think you didn't do enough, top that with rather being in harms way over another brother and the shit eats at you.

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>>131128078
> yo imma let you finish but "Come and see" by Elem Klimov (1985) is the best /real/ war movie of ALL TIME!

Its just like that masterpiece. Be a boy in a russian village during Blitzkrieg. They used live ammunition for the whole movie too

>>131137190
Already did that. One of my favorite books and movies.

>>131129704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Pd527GN48&t=34s

some people would beg to differ with you on that

>>131137275
Sounds like a PoG with bloodlust. Most combat vets I know survived IEDs that killed all their friends and had to kill children. They don't remember the war fondly.

>>131137275
I smell a pog. S1 or a cook detected

>>131136875
>>131136967
I say guys like me just in reference to the others that went to join these conflicts. I am no Rambo badass murder machine, and though I regret little, I would have lived life differently had I not gone to war or saw my future self.

I don't have much left. After my son grew up I tossed a lot of it. He knows I went to Vietnam but thats as far as I want it to go. Got one load vest amd some ribbons and uniform bits left, though I'm sure its hardly convincing.

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>>131128078
I fought in the Great Meme War of 2016. It was brutal out there, anons fought bravely and valiently. We lost a lot of good men. But I'll be damned if we didn't meme the greatest political happenings into reality in the history of mankind.

>>131129978
This

>>131137286

I don't know about him, but while I didn't miss combat, I wound up depressed because civilian life seems so petty, and hollow, and pale.

One thing about war, you bond with people much more than anything you experience afterwards. I haven't met one person since that I'd really consider my friend. How could I? They're shadows, our relationships are tiny flames that could blink out at any moment.

In a lot of ways, civilian life seems like a detached, hazy dream. Everything is nothing. People are petty, venal, shallow. It's difficult to describe, I guess.

>>131137482
>soviet propaganda bullcrap
Into the trash it goes.

>>131137461
I guess some people are born to be soldiers. Can't say I agree with that outlook on life, but I guess society needs them.

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>>131129704

>muh permanent war is good for the health of the nation

Spoken like a true fascist. I mean this unironically. Fascism is very much fixiated on the concept of war as a purifying force.

>>131137539
>>131137541
Nope, Gulf war was just very different from what's going on today. You don't know how lucky you were.

>>131128078
My grandmothers old friend fought in the battle of Hamburger hill during Vietnam, when the war ended he was diagnosed with PTSD and afterwards he would spend most of his time watching the Hamburger hill movie. He would invite my grandmother and my mom and her brother to go watch it with him, and this was non stop so she took him to a psychologist again. A year later he bit the end of a shotgun barrel and ended his life. It's like his whole life was devoted to re visioning what happened on that very battle.

His entire unit was slaughtered, leaving him the sole survivor-so I guess that might be part of what made him so fucked up.

>>131137633
>le kukistan meme
Go back to /r/TheDonald

>>131136962
Just grow them. Look up PK TEK

>>131133270
Heh I'm just downloading this one right now.

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>>131137694
I'm too redpilled for this place, rebel bro.

>>131137652
Yea, nothing like hard times to breed camaraderie. It's why communities in awful places have strong bonds.

Something about it reinforces the human condition and makes people feel alive. Isn't it kind of fucked up that we are like that?

>>131137506
If you've read the book then you are contradicting yourself in the post.

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>>131131239

>be me
>both grandpas and uncles were in Vietnam
>one grandpa became a habitual alcoholic, the other became a regular deadbeat father and abandoned his wife, uncle died when he went fishing with his 'Nam buddies and the yacht sunk in a storm

That war basically destroyed their lives

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>>131129704
>battles would have 99.9% mortality rate
>popular tactic was bayonet charge into enemy machine guns
>rampant chemical weapons
>not bad

>>131137785
>His entire unit was slaughtered, leaving him the sole survivor
survivor guilt

>>131137995
Sounds like they were cunts to begin with, a real man would never do anything to damage his Volk.

>>131137810
Fuck you nigger, i've been on /pol/ since before you were a cum stain on your mommys panties.

>>131138023
he didnt understand why they let him survive. and how could he.
> brain goes nuts wondering why. "maybe im a coward and thats why they didnt think i was worth bullets" etc
Its all bullshit, they leave you alive because they know its worse than killing you

>>131138109
Tell me something only an oldfag would know.

>>131137286
Saw plenty of action, a lot of guys I knew did. They end up depressed regardless, your brotherhood with other men is forged in battle and even fellow soldiers seem like strangers compared to your squadmates. Then ypu move into the civillian world and its worse.

You may not know everyone in the military, but you all know rank, you all know how much things suck, how helicopter rides can make you sick, how shit digging holes is, how much inventory blows, how your pay keeps gettimg messed up. You may be strangers, but there is something in common. Rank and position let you know how to treat everyone too.

In the normal world, no one cares. You walk by a sea of faces you may never see again. You rarely make small talk, everyone is wrapped up in their own world. Thats where depression lies, in the lack of connection and purpose. Its why something as simple as squad reunions, VFWs, and talking with people cheer vets. up.

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>>131128078

Its terrible anon, just terrible

>>131137286
Wait, so your shitting up this thread advocating war, but have never been to war? /pol/ in a nutshell.

>>131132524
DEVILDAWGS
OORAH!

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>>131136728

>Throughout the afternoon, Confederate engineers scrambled to create a new defensive line 500 yards further south at the base of the Mule Shoe, while fighting at the Bloody Angle continued day and night with neither side achieving an advantage. At 4 a.m. on May 13, the exhausted Confederate infantrymen were notified that the new line was ready and they withdrew from the original earthworks unit by unit. The combat they had endured for almost 24 hours was characterized by an intensity of firepower never previously seen in Civil War battles, as the entire landscape was flattened, all the foliage destroyed. An example of this can be found in the Smithsonian Museum of American History: a 22-inch stump of an oak tree at the Bloody Angle that was completely severed by rifle fire. There was a frenzy to the carnage on both sides. Fighting back and forth over the same corpse-strewn trenches for hours on end, using single shot muskets, the contending troops were periodically reduced to hand-to-hand combat reminiscent of battles fought during ancient times. Surviving participants attempted to describe in letters, diaries, and memoirs the hellish intensity of that day, many noting that it was beyond words. Or, as one put it: "Nothing can describe the confusion, the savage, blood-curdling yells, the murderous faces, the awful curses, and the grisly horror of the melee." May 12 was the most intensive day of fighting during the battle, with Union casualties of about 9,000, Confederate 8,000; the Confederate loss includes about 3,000 prisoners captured in the Mule Shoe.

As horrible as every account I've ever read of it is, a part of me still wishes I could've seen and experienced it firsthand.

>>131130175
Holy shit you are a massive faggot. That level of over-simplification should earn you a one way trip to the ivory coast you nigger. The hell is the matter with you?

>>131138259
Did you see combat though? I feel like fighting, surviving, and living when others die would have the biggest impact. I'm sure all the other things are super relatable though, my grandfather wouldn't talk about WWII with anyone besides other vets, at least until he got Alzheimer's, then he would talk about it with anyone.

>>131138016
>>popular tactic was bayonet charge into enemy machine guns
Only in the very first battles.

>>131131648
Hey shit just saw the Buffalo is based on the SA Casper we have here, nice, how did the Buffalo perform?

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>>131128078
I only know what its like being stuck down a fox hole and seeing God.

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>>131130138
Essayons my brother

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>>131137717

Anthony Swofford, is that you?

>>131132296
I have a deep fear of any cable tension, people don't realize how dangerous a tight wire is anywhere, fuck anon good read, tnx

>>131138092

Yeah they probably were, but the war definitely made it worse.

>>131138530
Vietnam was bad. Knowing those guys all throughout your time made any loss hard. Eventually you learn to suck it up and finish the job so you can live to cry later.

Working a gun for hire was easier. You don't know the guys long, they may well be foreigners, so its not as impactful. Still some guys you get close to though, and some you see mangled and can't help feel sorry for.

It doesn't hit you till you leave the field and are older just how lucky you are, how unlucky others are, and how much you miss some of your friends. I keep up with the wife of one of my mates. I dread visiting her house on Christmas but its an obligation that can't be turned down.

>>131138023
I remember listening to two vets talk. They both were humvee gunners in Iraq/Afghanistan, and both were the sole surviver of an IED attack. They had very similar experiences in the war, but one had PTSD and the other didn't. The guy with PTSD, who I knew better, would always talk about his experience he had in the war, it was always on is mind. The other didn't, during his exchange his wife's face was in shock, it was her first time hearing the details of his deployment.

Afterwards, the guy without PTSD went and played with his kid happily, while the other sat there staring at the ground, looking like death. It's interesting how different people deal with war, and that exchanged exemplified it. Guy with PTSD was really fucked up in the head over what experienced. It was sad.

>>131136802
> nice big boss larp

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>>131136711
I loved it. You're trained to do infantry shit with a lot more explosives and you have to score high on the asvab to do it so you know the guys next to you aren't window lickers for the most part. Route clearance suck but you get to hold it over others heads. Pic related

>>131138545
Great. Leaked hydraulic fluid like a sivv though when it was over 105 outside though.

>>131138972
That sounds rough, I have a few family friends who were in the war and it affected them the rest of their lives, one of them died a few years ago due to complications from Agent Orange exposure.

How did you get involved with mercenary work? Was it through US firms, like Blackwater?

I know my late grandfather was part of the first medics in Hiroshima after the bomb dropped. He never talked about it, but he had some severe depression take hold later in life.
Supposedly the others with him had similar experiences.
Not a good situation, couldn't imagine what he saw.

>>131128078
Side note, don't trust college-age kids who call themselves vets. Dumb shits will sit on a base in Germany or Hawaii for two years, do some pushups, fix a few trucks, and start bragging about how "brave" they are and wear their fatigues to the grocery store and shit. The worthless attention-seeking welfare whores will ride other people's coattails all the way to retirement if they can.

>>131139120

Did the guy with PTSD have a wife?

It's not necessarily the experiences in war that scar you forever. It's having them play over and over again in your mind that does it.

A good wife, good family, good social support can help that. It can be as simple as the fact that you're talking with them means you're distracted from thinking it over all the time.

By far the most important thing soldiers need is social contact after the war. Unfortunately, there's no way to guarantee it, and there's even some things that I think encourages social isolation (a lot of soldiers, after the war, move to a new city to use their GI bill, running up a huge risk of social isolation.)

It's not necessarily the horror of the war that gets you. It's the complete lack of social bonding afterwards that takes that and makes it much worse.

>>131139606

You Japanese?

>>131139511
Ah I see it's made by a US company, the Caspers were made by local Danel, that V shaped belly to protect occupants from explosions, cool design, they used to use Kaspers in Angola war, and locally to handle nigger chimpouts back then.

>>131138680
o7

>>131129704
Meme post

>>131139774

This would explain why historically so many US veterans brought home foreign wives, even ones from countries they had been war with and been indoctrinated to see as the enemy.

>>131134444
quads of truth

>>131139852

Had a Casper door close on my leg once. With how fucking heavy those things are, I always thought they should have some form of door lock that prevents them from shutting unless the lock is disengaged, they're easily heavy enough to kill someone if they get knocked closed while someone is climbing in. I still have a weird dent in my leg muscle from where it closed on me, and at the time it caused pretty much my entire leg to turn purple.

>>131137132
>the CIA guys he saw did shit that was way worse, and stuck with him.

Did they ever shoot a man before throwing them out of a plane

>>131139774
Yea he did, he had a wife and kid. His substance abuse and mental health issues eventually ruined that though.

Haven't seen him in a while, he thought I betrayed him over something petty that I didn't do.

>>131139593
Friend actually. Fellow vet went to fight in Rhodesia so I followed him. After that we went a lot of places together, or sent each other info on places to go for work.

On top of that you make connections and can make your own way.

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>>131128078
Watch the Pacific and Watch Band of Brothers with the commentary by the people who fought in the war, and ask yourself what it must have been like.

Or enlist.

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>>131128078
No sense in lifting a finger for western powers, they're all controlled by kikes.

You're only fighting for faggots rights and the ability for your daughters to be blacked.

Being a traitor is the only true choice.

The only one rewarding in the end!

>>131128078
Just extremes.

Extreme boredom
Extreme anxiety
Extreme temperatures

2004or5
I'm green AF, in the AF. Married and 1st year in.

Next door neighbor and SSgt guy returns from Iraq as a vehicle repair guy tasked with driving convoys. Not exactly prepared for this shit. Party animal by night, binge drinking during the day.

One day, were in his basement drinking, deployment talk comes up, I'm in the next bucket.

He told of deployment. He had to kill some bad guys. He was on top of Humber while in the street, he sees a bunch of Hali's coming down alley. Hajis. Ready to die clean shaven dressed in white. They run at convoy with vests bombs and AK's blazing.

He mans the 50, is gunning and gunning the whole group of enemies. Said at one point the gun almost wouldn't tilt down enough to hit them, surrounding him. He kills them all, at least 10 maybe more.

Damn. Is all I said.

Keanureeveswhoa.psd

Got a few more.

>Boring
>Boring
>boring
>HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>Boring

>>131128078
>What's it like fighting in a war?

Lots of boring and annoying shit with few extremely scary moments.

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I´m mostly shocked over how young everyone here is, you talk about your grandparents fought in vietnam, am I really a whole generation older than people here

2006, Stan
Bagran AB, comfy.tiff

A-10's shoot up ants on hill, Intel briefing I'm watching the war in a tv.

Always hear explosions, it's either mortars or rockets or mine clearing ops in perimeter. Used to it.

Be watching CNN in wood shack.

Base is under attack, story developing. WTF. Gif

Outer wall breached but in special forces camp. Bad guys all ded very fast.

Go back to playing monopoly.

We have an orange cat at the smoke pit.

Almost hit by dumbass in friendly fire accident.

Deployed without helmet, they didn't have any for me there. Never needed it.

In the war, never scared, never life threatened. Lucky but almost short changed.

>>131142051

The youngest Vietnam vets would be 62, more than enough time to become grandfathers

>>131142498
Yes, I know that, but still, the vietnam was was my parents generations big war, it sounds so strange when people say that their grandparents fought in vietnam,

>>131137286
Deployed in 2008, never saw combat. I was commo but I did go on about 20 convoy escort missions as a gunner. I'm disappointed I didn't get to kill some muslims.

>>131129378
Falklands

>>131136962
Shrooms are powerful psychedelics, but any psychotheraputic value they have is dwarfed in comparison to what MDMA is capable of.

>>131130439
Don't do it, man. Use the void inside you and fill it with helping others suffering like you. You are a Child of the Most High God. Never forget that.

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>>131128078
Muhreen, went to the sandbox at the very tail end of the """war""", I have no idea how people can even call it that. For Christs sake, all we did was escort trucks and lowboys full of equipment, vehicles and weapons to the Iraqi Army who would subsequently (((lose))) it to ISIS. Smedley Butler captures the essence of what it meant to be a Marine during these middle eastern "wars"

>I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers.
>In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914.
>I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in.
>I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street.
>I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916.
>I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested.
>Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.
>WAR is a racket. It always has been.
It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious.
>It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

These words are still completely relevant, all you need to do is replace some of those countries with "Iraq", "Afghanistan" and "Israel"

>see conspiracy vid on youtube about bankers funding wars and blind patriotism with military worship and expendable idiot kids yadayadayada
>comments are all vehemently shitting on veterans, calling them psychopathic scum, retards etc etc
why does everyone with half a cent of knowledge on shit like this have to be such an annoying, self righteous cunt? Fucks sake, they act like being redpilled even in the slightest means they're the next Galileo.

>>131129704
I tell you what, take some wooly socks you have, poke a few holes in them and dip em in muddy water. Put them on then find the oldest boots you have and put them on. Now wear those for around a month. That was the period soldiers waited for new socks if they ever came.

Make sure you don't take them off whilst you sleep for immersion, not that you'll be able to take them off. Don't sleep in bed either. Sleep on cloth covered dirt. Pretty easy huh.

Congratulations, you are a ww1 soldier for 40% of the time.

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>>131146477
Why shouldn't they? The way world works there is always going to be someone dumb, poor or brainwashed enough to join the military. Why would anyone legitimize violence done on supposedly their behalf by group of low IQ mercenaries when top 1% are the ones really profiting from it?

>>131147347
>posts henry kikesenger
>defends shitting on your fellow man because he got deceived, and not waking him up to the truth about his deceiver
Well, poland does have its fair share of jews.

Away, kike.

>>131128078
Long moments of boredom and uncertainty mixed in with extremely short and intense moments of death, bullets, shells, and screaming.

You never forget the smell of blood, gunpowder, and metal after a fight is over.

You look over at the guy that was just telling you about his wife and daughter and how much he couldn't wait to see them, as he's bent over a concrete barrier with 60% of his skull blown off and most of his blood splattered onto the Humvee next to him.

>>131128078
It's like being homeless in detroit

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>>131147567
>poland does have its fair share of jews
12,000 compared to your 8,000,000
In my country Jews don't control media, education, legal system, entertainment industry and banks. American soldiers are not my 'fellow men', we already had experiences with them, fucking uncultured, savage animals. Russians, Americans, Western Europeans, they can all collectively fuck off, kill each other somewhere else

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>>131128078
not a vet but heard when you kill someone its a stain on your soul. and that war is just another tool for politics most of the time. but there are a few times were war is needed and welcomed. like the most common one, fighting the nazi's and (while not at first) the american civil war to end slavery. so lets put it this way, you can have a standing army, but just bing enough to be part in a coalition with other nations to share the cost as well as ti send a message to your rivals and enemy's not to fuck with you.

>>131128078
war is hell

t. play call of duty

>>131145963
I love Smedley Butler, biggest patriot to ever exist, yet people like to ignore what he actually learned and said about the true causes of war.

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>>131148252
>the american civil war to end slavery
>the civil war was to end slavery

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>>131148165
If you think you arent controlled by the jews, then you have no idea what the fuck is going on in this world.

Last reply you're getting from me, kike.

>>131138234
that your a faggot

>>131128078
>What's it like fighting in a war?
A lot of Adrenalin, you will forget everything like hunger and pain.
Mostly you can never see your enemy. bullets flying out of nowhere. random explosions sounds mixed with scream and bullet buzz. if you survive you will have very fragmented memory about war time because of Adrenalin.

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>>131148573
Jews don't own you if you deny participating in the cult of consumerism. Get it through your thick skull - you are not my 'fellow man', you uncultured savage from predatory, sociopathic society which worships gangsters and violence.

>>131134593
Go to bed boot

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>>131148455

not at first. that was later, remember that the border states had slavery but didnt get in the unions way or joined the CSA, on top of that, licion tried to make a comprise as he was willing to do anything to end the war and keep the union together as he was a free spoiler. he would even gp as far as to only let slavery exist in the south but no where else. free soilers are people that wanted to start fresh as the lands they were once on is held by slave owners. they didn't hate blacks or liked them, they just hated slavery as it got in the way of them from making a living. but as the wwar went on, it became clear that not only to win it, but to insure that the union was forever intact and didnt have to face the prospect of another civil war, slavery was abolished.

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>>131148521

It's shit, its scary
and it got over too soon for my liking

>>131149794
>slavery didnt start the civil war but seriously it was about slavery
This isnt how any form of logic works.

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>>131149972
in the green" now your getting it.
wars, when started with one objective ill have a different objective later on. almost every war that i can think of has gone through this.

>>131129704

>Waiting all day in the trench that'll be your tombstone
>Mud all over
>Chemical weapons that cause you to die from the inside out where allowed back then
>Tanks vs Infantry a common occurrence


>Not that bad

>>131131886
>weebo
>Has ever been in a war

fuck off

>>131128078
It isn't bad but you've got to be in the right mental place, honestly to me the only part that was objectively bad was not getting to see my enemy up close to know whether he suffered or not. Not in a sick way, I'd put them out of their misery but most shots I took were at a decent distance and the thought of them bleeding out and suffering like a mangled animal in the hot sun with sand in their wounds kinda makes me feel sympathetic and I think about it a lot and wish I could've walked up to them and made sure it was over because a few squirmed and we moved before I could get a finishing shot... Just hope they didn't suffer too much.

>>131128078
Boredom in horrible living conditions followed by shitstorms of carnage. Hopefully you aren't either too autistic to deal with change or normie enough to not shrug off mowing down a rabbit that's so dumb that it runs under your car. End of the day a soldier belongs where he is and if you don't believe that you don't belong in peaceful society, the good ones will die because that is what God made us to be.

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>>131129978
>>131131194
>>131132715
>>131134283

I think people have a lot of misconceptions about this war. Thanks to the likes of Owen and Sassoon, there is a tendency to see this war in very black and white terms.

I think people often forget that the standard of living, particularly amongst the peasantry was already so poor that the conditions in the trenches could even be better than they were used to.

It also depended what front a soldier was deployed to. If he was in the Ypres Salient or Verdun he would have had a pretty miserable time but if he was further south he would have had a pretty quiet time.

The 'lions led by donkeys' myth is probably the most pervasive. In reality, every army was undergoing a learning curve. In 1914, some armies were still deploying Napoleonic formations. However, by 1918 every remaining beligerent was employing combined arms warfare to some degree. You only have to look at the British Army's SS144 manual to get what I mean.

Look beyond the current sloppy narrative

I've never fought but I can say one thing. If I ever did I would be the crazy fuck that runs straight at the enemy blasting an m249 saw because I'm not afraid of death and I don't have a soul for killing anyone trying to kill me.

>>131137131
Depends who for it was worse for Britain in world war one more people died but yeah for the Russians it was world 2 no doubt

>>131130439
at least find some white bitch to knock up before you go, we need dem birth rates

you should stay until she gives birth to, that way she cant abort if if you off yourself too soon

>>131150878
nice b8 soldier

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>>131150744
from which did you get this? war is fun.

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>>131148521

>>131151206
>from which did you get this?
*movie

Emu war was traumatic ;(

>>131151619
dont worry well liberate you

Nobody in a western country has fought in a real war except possibly Falklands vets.

Being glorified police is not real soldiering.

How do vets feel about women
In active duty? Brothers in arms or counterproductive cunts?

>>131136609
Nah, Vietnam still would have happened. FDR invaded Vietnam because they were trying to copy America and make a Constitution just like ours. Can't have a one world globalist government with a bunch of jungle gooks reminding Americans everyone how great America was.

>>131128078
Look for videos of war veteran Sebastian Junger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9DNWK6WfQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGZMSmcuiXM

>>131128078
Ask for a vet thread and you get a virgin larper cosplay airsoft paintball shitstorm. 1/23 Marines Vet, I spent 6 months in Haditha before I decided to try law enforcement for a few years... then went right the fuck back with a PMC to -shit you not- solder 8 wires together once a week and "protect" a glorified 7-Eleven. Being shot at and nearly dying is a matter of perspective... everyone reacts differently to quick bursts of fear and stress. The way insurgency works, most don't get an acute and prolonged feel for battle. I would go weeks without doing shit and then one day you end up losing some of the best friends you have ever had and will ever have in a blink of an eye. After a while, I became edgy and thought it wouldn't be so bad to die, then I got my left index fingertip torn off by an artillery shell shoved into a dead dog. Now I get angry easily, but I keep it inside. People like to ask questions and hear the stories when there's a big get-together and someone brings up rah rah war shit, but I always find myself brushing it all off and ignoring their inquiries... I even make shit up that I think would be interesting and digestible because the real stories are either mundane or beyond fucked up. So that's that.

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>>131128078
Was in Afghanistan for 2 years and loved it. i could just point and pull and ragheads would drop without anyone calling me "evil" or assuming moral highgroud.

>>131128078
>What's it like fighting in a war?

The fighting is the easy part.
the hard part comes after the war, when you have to deal with dead friends, lying governments and "support" from your country.
killed other men for the rich basically.
the hard part is not raging against the system afterwards, the hard part is maintaining your patriotism after the war, when you see your own people self-hate while your friends died so they can sleep at night in their ivory towers.
the actual fighting is the easy part.

>>131129704
>t. Grim Reaper

>>131153469
>the actual fighting is the easy part
Tell that to the Palestinian children

>>131151206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09s1nQ7DU_g

>>131130036
Yeah, it's about going to your primitive survival mode. Your training and your most primitive survival instincts kick in. This is one of the most powerful forces in your body - it's ability to want to survive and get out of stressful situation. In the nature the fight or flight situation doesn't last that long but in war it is artificially created and it is sustained to levels which are inhumane. Some people can tolerate that stress and I would say some even enjoy it, but those kind of people are emotionally dead or sociopaths to some point. Normally most people get traumatized by this artificially extended unnatural bombardment.

During WW2 bombings when Russians shelled Finnish lines there were soldiers who literally fell asleep in the middle of the bombardment because their bodies couldn't handle the stress of 8+ hours of heavy artillery. You can't see anything or hear anything. It sounds very unnatural thing to do but they just shut down that way.

>>131131648
>>131132013
i worked with vernon joynt to design them

>>131128078
Way better than not fighting one.

>>131155399
>Tell that to the Palestinian children

tell what ? children are doing what their parents have shown them. simple as that.

take into account these are uneducated children who are being brainwashed into thinking jihad is amazing. what do you expect ?

weaponized children is a psychological force, not a physical one. the Russians did it too. nothing new here.

you think the same about the child soldiers in Africa nobody gives a fuck about ?

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Navy combat back in the day must of been a nightmare
>ship hit
>still functional but now half the crew is dead.
>have to let men drown in the cold dark behind bulkheads so the ship doesn't sink

>>131157923
>have to let men drown in the cold dark behind bulkheads so the ship doesn't sink
this happened just the other day with the vessel that was hit by that tanker
those sailors drowned in the berthings because other sailors had to seal the spaces closed to keep it from sinking
they were close to losing the ship

I heard that most soldiers are gays because of lackage of pussy they drill each others shitholes like spartans did

>>131158035
Get the fuck out of here really?

>>131157886
I'd never thought i'd get to say this but the jew is right. Children are either weaponized either used as decoy, you must take them out before they become what will kill you.

4kankers are all losers. We have shittones of posts from steamboys and not a single armed helicopter pilot with his nightvision piuew pieuw stories

>>131129704
do you even know about the conditions on the trenches during the war? its horrible with disease being rampant, constant shellings via artillery, and food scarce. kys you fucking retard

>>131129704

ww1 was so intence that it created it's own horizon in the layers of the soil
study more instead of looking like a baiting fool
damn your kind of people are so ignorrand it's sad and funny at the same time...

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>>131128078
>be me
>see 9/11 as a child
>grow to hate muslims because of it
>deploy to Afganistan in 2010
>muslim kids throw rocks at us all the time
>smells like shit and my balls are constantly stuck to the side of my leg
>hot as fuck
>kids throw rocks at us one time and I get hit in the face
>thatsfuckingit.napalm
>begin hoarding all pork sausage MRE cause nobody eats them
>start passing out pork to kids
>they gobble it down
>use piss bottles from 6 hoyr convoys and add a little lemonade drink powder for taste
>throw it into crowds of kids and watch them fight over my piss
>get called by commander one day
>he says I am doing good think by helping these people
>get home
>standing in formation one day and get called up
>commander gives me an ARCOM for being so charitable
>mfw I got a medal for feeding muslim kids pork and piss

>>131158035
that's the American destroyer hit by a chinese merchant ship a few days ago you're talking about, wright?
i saw pictures of it with the ship open just above the waterline...
damn those men... get the order, bite on your teeth, close doors.. hear the screams..
you gotta do what you gotta do, still time left or not

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>>131133270
suggest trying squad

>>131152025
What

>>131158836

most feared nightmares of war... sticky balls on leggs
oooh.. the thrauma..

why did no one ate pork sausages?
what is an ARCOM?
i know it's a french compagny for electronics and automatization solutions

>>131129704
>not that bad
I would hang you just for that

>>131159251
When you get chafed to the point of your legs bleeding and you have to march 20mi it is shit.

ARCOM is Army Commendation Medal

Pork Sausage MRE tastes like absolute shit so everyone avoids it.

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>>131158851
That's the one.
Just a small collision killed 7 and will likely cost 100 million+ (t.contractor,Imagine actual navy combat. Casualties would be counted ship by ship rather then man by man.
Imagine all those tiddly qt Nigeress drowning in the cold dark or being mangled in a tin can

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>>131158078
>>131158851
>i saw pictures of it with the ship open just above the waterline...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/16/us-navy-warship-collides-with-cargo-ship-off-coast-japan.html

>The ship suffered damage on her starboard side above and below the waterline. The collision resulted in some flooding.

look at this pic. that is the part of the container ship that is below the water line. that part punctured the naval ship like a massive torpedo. all container ships have this type of hull design

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>>131131618
summer in full effect

>>131132022
>don't stereotype
sjw detected

>>131130385
Legit post. Shame I missed him

war is the worst experience I had in my life

>>131160394
i fought in Irak's war , because when I was younger I thought that I would have helped people, but we just were told to kill people

>>131160470
there were a lot of days when nothing happened at all, but I remember that once, we went to a small town and we were told to kill almost all the men in that village. In addition, friends of mine molested and harassed women, event the youngest ones

>>131160573
I desired every day to go back to Spain and to study an forget about that meaningless war, the next time I hear a war I will kill the king

>>131159396
i know sticky balls and marching, but to the point of bleeding?! wow, i'm sorry if it red bad, i was meaning to joke about it..
thanks for explaining
is see, what a waste of good meat.. how is it even possible of making pork taste that bad? or is it because of no proppre storrage conditions? i immagine no cooling ..?

>>131159471
>>131159489
holy shit, that watercutter, what i saw was just a 2 minute notification on tv news and a picture, ohman..

>>131161148
>2 minute notification on tv news
yeah, the news will definitely not talk about the details because there are now sailors on that ship that have to carry the psychological burden of sealing up those berthing spaces with their friends and shipmates inside and out of respect for the families of the sailors

>>131161148
No its because it is in a maple sauce made from shit ingredients. True D quality food.