You libtard fags ready for 2020?

TX has to be blue

>>131118160
Keep dreaming Trumptard. If he wins 2020, he's not getting that many electoral votes.

>>131118160
>illinois
>any color but blue
Vermont has a better chance than Illinois.

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>>131118160

That healthcare bill will end his 2020 chances

>>131118160
>virginia
>red
kek

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>>131118593
It's a swing state. The governor gave voting rights to like 60,000 felons, illegal aliens voted, other voter fraud, efc.

Trump will probably win because Democrats are in some retarded civil war between naive idealists and corporate whores, but it sure as shit won't be that much of a blowout. This nigger hasn't even gotten the wall squared away, fuck that.

>>131118557
>Arkansas
>Blue
keep dreaming nigger

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>>131118160

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Your Votes don't count.

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fixed the map

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>>131118160
mfw when there is no more Illinois by 2020

No way can Trump hold onto Pennsylvania

this is gonna be the map is drumf keeps his shit up fuckers

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>>131118732
all the high nigger counties voted Hilary

Please God let IL turn red. We'd need an ethnic cleansing though.

>>131118160
I can see Minnesota turning red because Trump nearly won it this time but I can never see Illinois turning.

>>131118160
Sauce?

>>131118160
Republicunts.

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>>131118857
>Trump objectively won
>Treating this like a safety blanket and not empirical evidence of his superiority

>>131119280
It could if something were to happen to Chicago

>>131118557
Somone predicted McMullin winning 3 states. Hillary winning 468 electoral votes.
and trump with 51 electoral votes.

my sides

>Maine
>NH
>Minnesota
Possible

>Virginia
>Nevada
>Colorado
Impossible

>>131118160
I hope this happens, for Kek wills it, and his apostle Trump is here.

>>131119284
The dream brainwave jesus told me in

>>131118321
He's getting all 50 states, retard. This has all been planned for a very long time.

>>131119049
FUCK YES

LETS GET OREGON RED

>>131119584
That would make Trump the second person to unanimously win the election.

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>>131119049
FTFTFY

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Summer Fag 14 year old or just a cretin Fascist cocksucker.

>>131118160
You libtard fags ready for 2020?

Hey dumbass, if you are going to use "libtard" in your post you have to also include the word "agenda". Libtard doesn't bother them anymore. But when you put "and their agenda" with it it triggers them. Get with the fucking program!

what will probably happen
>democrats don't learn
>democrats keep being fucking retards
>democrats get slaughtered in 2018
>party falls into disarray and has some purges
>progressives gain ground, but the DNC keeps shilling against them
>tulsi gabbard goes through a media defamation campaign that can compare only to trump's
>option 1: kamala harris takes the nomination and loses to trump, loses even more of the progressive vote than hillary did
>option 2: tulsi gabbard somehow takes the nomination and handily beats trump, but can't accomplish anything because the republicans have everything else

>>131119820
I'm 23 so shut the fuck up

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>>131118493

This is true

But if Illinois crashes and burns financially there is a much better chance

>>131119442
Tactical nuke incoming.

>>131118160
Under different circumstances I would call this map retarded, but the way the dems are refusing to reevaluate their party I can see something like this happening

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>>131120007

And here is Illinois in 2012

Keep in mind that Hillary was born in Illinois

>>131118160
cali is going red dont fuck around

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>>131119768
Jeb Empire soon™

MATCHUP GONNA BE FEEL THE BERN VS TRUMP

>>131118321
I'd be surprised if he doesn't win close to that much. Everything is lined up so perfectly for him.
>Carter, H.W and Obummer are the only presidents in recent history to lose votes as the incumbent,
>The Democratic party is dying and long term supporters are displeased with them, and sick of their hateful rhetoric,
>Illegals are being kicked out by the dozen. and Voter logs will start to be purged of duplicates and dead people again.
>States are enacting Voter ID laws.
People dont hate Trump nearly as much as the msm wants you to believe.

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>>131119158
As a Pennsylvanian, this can't be farther from the truth. I knew he'd flip this state since New Years 2016. I STILL see Trump signs/flags all over the place, albeit not as much as during the election but still. This state and the rust belt will remain red for Trump, and possibly the next election after that if we play our memes right. Screen cap this

>>131119565
TD is back that way

>>131118160
USA
2020
>destroys itself internally from retarded shill libtards and whitetrash fighting each other.

I'll miss you guys :,(
stay safe burgers

go for the antifa faggots first plx thanks

- A fucking leef

>>131119280
They're fucking bankrupt
They'll be more likely to turn than even MN in 2020
Assuming trump is running at least

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>>131118160

>tfw I live in Connecticut and my vote is meaningless

>>131118160
New Mexico should probably be red too.

>>131118160
All the dems that were on healthcare are going to be dead by then so that map should be a lot more red. Or it will be a lot more purple because both sides are going to lose a lot of fodder votes.

>>131118557
>Missouri
>Blue
I didn't know St. Louis controlled the entire state

>>131118160
>Washington giving full electoral

like last time, either half wont vote or the state will go red due to the disastrous seattle policies

>>131119049
Except Delaware will be blue again. Only lower DE voters went red.

I voted for Trump but I almost wish Hillary won. If she had, then it would be clearly apparently that she would have won only because whites are losing their influence in elections. But because Trump won, this fact, while still true, becomes less obvious. Now I'm worried it will be too easy to ignore the issues of demographic replacement because Trump was able to win. That may sound defeatist, but I don't know. A Hillary win would have really hammered home the point. Now I'm worried people won't be desperate enough to keep up voting red. Even if Trump ends up being terrible, it's still essential to vote for the party that at least somewhat represents a resistance to immigration.

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>>131119768

>>131118588
It's funny most people skipped right passed this.
Repealing obamacare is going to fizzle and will be too politically dangerous because of reelections and will be blamed on the House, Senate, and republican Exec as a liability.

>the repeal will fizzle out due to liability and possibly costing next election but Rs will say "we gave a new option our best shot lol" to save face

>>131119049
this if a corporate democrat is running yet again.

>>131121632
right you are

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>>131118160
I think the map will look a bit more like this.
#ElectYellowstone2020

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>>131122179
Surts a comin' boys

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>>131122179
I don't believe in global warming, but if this happens, democrats will never win again

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>>131120699
CHECKED N KEK'D

>>131122179
lol, that's a world problem, not an American one.

>>131118160
If the dems keep collapsing at this rate it could be even better

Flip Oregon maybe

>>131119252

Illinois may not even be a State in the near future.

>>131119552
None of those are impossible

Lol wut? Nevada va and Colorado are practically swing states

>>131118732
If you've completed your prison sentence, why the fuck shouldn't you be allowed to vote? you've paid your debt to society

>>131122876

It's a fair point - and I'd personally be in favor of restoring all civil rights to former felons, including their 2nd amendment rights. However, that would be in a country that actually reformed their prison population, and not turned them into even harder criminals.

>>131118160
This is pretty delusional, much like>>131118557
was.

Unless Trump turns a lot of new voters like Obama did in the 2008 election, which is a possibility I suppose, but it would be a distant one in my opinion.

I would say that his chances of winning reelection are like 60-70% depending on who the democrats can field and depending on how many right wingers run against him in a third party contest.

>>131123177
This, the US prison system is pretty fucked desu

>>131122421

>seas rise slowly over the course of centuries
>democrats never move

really?

>>131118857
>campaign to win electoral vote, not muh fee fees popular vote because that isn't how the presidency is decided in the United States (not Trump's decision)
>win electoral vote, become president
Explain how this is illegitimate.

>>131122421
>tfw you live in NYS and you consider the possibility of NYC not being part of your state
I think I just had an orgasm

>>131119552
>Nevada is impossible
Hardly.

>>131119049
Seriously though, calexit when?

>>131122421
No anon, if that happens all the spic's in California proceed to smother the most white portions of the country. The nogs being concentrated in the south would proceed to move north right into the Appalachian's and cover the next most white parts. We would be looking at literal mountains of shit skins looking for gibs in the wake of such disaster and nothing to gib................

>>131123305
Trump relied heavily on moderates and on the millions of bernouts who voted for him. If the democrats ran Gabbard, Webb, or another moderate or progressive, Trump would lose most of that advantage. Not like the democrats would run someone who isn't a corporatist or identity politician though.

>>131119049
>Red Washington
ugh I wish

>>131124180
Not soon enough. Good lord California is useless.

>>131118160
I don't know about libtards, but my dick is definitely ready.

>>131122876
no you've conclusively demonstrated your lack of care for the rest of society

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>>131118160
>Illinois still existing in 3 years

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YOU MOTHERFUCKERS BETTER VOTE FOR DAVID DUKE.

He is our ONLY hope

>>131122775
>>131124021
They're only going to get more spics and Cali transplants. Same with Colorado.

>>131124234
>Not like the democrats would run someone who isn't a corporatist or identity politician though.
That's what I'm banking on, the democrats have become completley out of touch over the last few decades and they don't understand what people want anymore.

The thing is that Trump is very centrist when you take all of his views into account. He doesn't have a really strong ideological bias one way or another on most issues and as such tends to pick and chose on issues based on other factors.

This isn't a bad thing from a leadership perspective, but from an elect ability perspective it's not ideal. It makes it very easy for the democrats to come in on his left and a third party spin off to come in from the right and essentially drain him of all of the hardliner votes.

And, unfortunately, if you take away the hardliners then there aren't that many people left at this point. The US is pretty polarized right now.

>>131118160
Someone screen cap this

NY will be red in 2020

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>>131118160
>>131119049
>not believing Cuckifornia will be partitioned into six states

>>131118160
>Illinois
>not demoted to another bankrupt US territory by 2020

>>131124726
wouldnt surprise me if even the Spics were sick of the whining left by then.

>>131124932
They don't care if there's gibs to be had.

>>131118160
>Colorado
>Red

This state is irreversibly fucked. It pains me to say it as a Colorado native, but the massive influx of libtards cannot be undone.

>>131124747
>if you take away the hardliners then there aren't that many people left at this point. The US is pretty polarized right now.
You consume too much MSM if you believe ideologues make up a major portion of the country, most people are politically reasonable want nothing to do with that on either side. The extremists of the left have been working really hard to repel those sort of people.

There's certainly a rise in political tension and violence that will only grow as we drift further and further from the ignorant stability of the boomers and into the new era but most Americans serve the side of reason.

>>131118857
DELETE THIS

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Come on guys, let's just give him one more chance. It's his turn!

>>131121012
Kansas City and Columbia are liberal as fuck. Springfield is slowly on track to be blue also, probably not until 2024 though.

>>131118160
i read something the other day about there being 3 wings within the democrats - the progressive wing (sanders, warren), the corporate wing (obama, clinton), and the blue dog wing (webb, gabbard). if the dems get someone from the cuck wing through the primaries (very unlikely), then i think they will win. someone from the third wing could also stand a chance. but knowing the DNC and how good they are at decision making, they'll pick some neoliberal retard and hand the don the win.
trump will win handily if he gets himself sorted out and delivers on what he's promised. he's gonna need to ramp up deportations if he wants to win nevada and keep arizona and texas, though.

>>131118557
I remember when quite a few people unironically thought this was going to happen lol. Wild times

>>131125324
They didn't Pokemon-GO to the polls™

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>illinois

maybe if shitcago falls into lake michigan

>>131125169
I dunno, I'm still not convinced.

I guess we'll see. I'm hoping that you're right and Trump wins here without too much struggle, unless some maverick comes out of nowhere who is clearly superior to him of course, which I doubt.

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>>131125747
>Illinois dissolves its charter to escape debt
>Chicago remains a federal district for decades due to extreme violence

>>131120141

>Hillary was born in Illinois
>Obama was a senator from Illinois

Jesus fuck did anything good ever come out of this state besides Lincoln?

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>>131125910
Why not Zuckerberg?

>>131126140
It almost burned to the ground once

>>131125747
People in Chicago always vote for the democratic candidate regardless of who it is.

>>131118160
There not even ready for the upcoming civil war

>>131126140
We export breddy gud tier EEs.

>>131126234
*chicago almost burned to the ground once
And if it did the state would be redder than chicago's meatpackig plants.

WA bros

will we ever go red again?

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>>131118160
If you really want a look at 2020, you need not scroll past this post.

>>131123730
Nigger women are so fat they literally can't

>>131122501
Not if you live in the Falklands.

>>131120475
I had 3 generations of Father's who worked in the homestead mills
Trump ran on the same democrat platform from the 1980s after USS collapsed and RCA was the last American electronic

My family moved to fl in the 80s but I knew the rust belt would turn Red

>>131122179
Isis laughs in Arabic at this.

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>>131119049
>blue Mass
Take that back, nigger!

>>131118160
Nevada ain't going red. UNLV has been indoctrinating kids to be vocal liberals for 15 years at least. Shit tier social circles there.

>>131120475
I mean, if Bernie actually won the nomination, it might've turned out differently. He may be retard socialist, but at least he actually gave a shit about the blue collar working class, which is what delivered the election for Trump.

Michael Moore, the fat libtard lesbian prophet, predicted this.

>>131127141
>implying ISIS gives a fuck about America
>implying their goal isn't clearing up the Levant for Greater Israel to take over

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>>131119552
All impossible are considered Swing States.

PA is considered a swing state even though it's gone blue for 28 years.

The thing is, Republicans have force Democrats greatest strength into their greatest weakness. Now they can only do well in cities while doing abysmally in everywhere else when in the past they could do okay everywhere and get city people into the voting booth.

>>131126717
This plus or minus a couple of states is Trump's most realistic of winning reelection. It is also something of a best case scenario considering how much shit he is getting lately, although it seems that his scandals are finally somewhat behind him. Some major legislative action could really help him and a better healthcare bill would not be a bad start. Trump might lose the popular vote again though, seeing as there is no way in hell the coast liberals will consider voting for him after 4 years of attacks and well, republican policy.

>>131125297
missouri has been getting progressively more Republican

>>131129018
Doing as abysmally as Republicans do in cities is no great advantage though, specially considering that they command much of the economy.

>>131129233
Incumbency will land him a few extra points relative to 2016. I'm guessing 3 or so since that's pretty average. That would give him MN, NH, and ME. If he does a really great job, we could see VA, NV, and CO start to get competitive, maybe even NM.

>>131119049
Maryland will never go red unless the monkeys in Baltimore riot so hard it spreads to the county.

>Red Colorado


Muh dik

>>131120475
Same. You don't see a single spic wearing Trump shit but basically any white man over 30 has a hat or sticker and isn't afraid to show them. The majority of the hispanics can't vote anyway so their opinion doesn't even matter. I think his appealing to the working class swung PA in his favor hard - there are a lot of people here that are seriously pissed about the amount of illegals coming in and the amount of outsourcing our businesses are doing. I don't even blame them - this place is absolutely infested with Cubans and Mexicans.

>>131129615

Or unless the federal government workers lose most of their jobs and neo-Varangians I mean vibrant immigrant communities fuck off back home as a result.

Maryland can handle Baltimore City, Montgomery County, or PG County individually. It would be very tough, but Maryland could handle two of the three. But Maryland can't handle all three at once.

>>131129495
Minnesota and New Hampshire are probably safe if he does a decent job. The margins there were insanely small for Clinton. He can also get that one vote from Maine rather easily. The thing will be, in my opinion, actually holding on to the states that delivered him the victory in 2016 in order for these very close states to flip. Virginia and Nevada are his long shot states that are actually feasible (unlike "hurr durr Hillary wins the Sunbelt")

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>>131121164
https://archive.is/3YkHg

>As the lead author noted two years ago in his chapter for Larry Sabato’s “The Surge,” Hispanics exceed their national share of the population in just nine states, only three of which are swing states (Colorado, Florida and Nevada). Likewise, African-Americans exceed their national share of the population (14 percent) in just 16 states, only a handful of which (Florida, Michigan, North Carolina and Virginia) are swing states.

>In other words, the Democrats’ coalition of the ascendant is very inefficiently distributed. We therefore opted to utilize a demographic (urbanicity) that is easily filtered through a geographic component (CBSAs) and that people intuitively think of in geographic terms. What we discovered is a different dimension to the Democrats’ demographic inefficiency problem: They are becoming far too clustered in urban centers to be effective, even when they win the popular vote.

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>>131133001
https://archive.is/3YkHg
(cont.)
>The general trend here, though, is that most of the land area is red. Land area doesn’t vote, but rural and small-town America casts tens of millions of votes. Shifts of this magnitude add up. The one big exception is California, which has shifted almost uniformly toward Democrats. But this is inefficient; California was already quite blue by 1996; all of these votes are “wasted.” On the other hand, the dark red areas – West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana – are all places where Democrats performed well in 1996, but no longer do.

>Winning mega-cities by 30 points is great, but her margin there was mostly (though not entirely) neutralized by her poor performance in large rural areas and small towns alone. Again, her vote in these mega-cities was also inefficiently distributed in already-blue states; the swing states with mega-cities tend to have large amounts of rural land, which is why she lost Florida, Georgia and Pennsylvania. Finally, we note that while rural and small-town America are disappearing, that disappearance is happening much more gradually than people appreciate.

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>>131119049
MAGA

>>131118160
Decent chance Oregon will go red. We did for Reagan and people are really turned off by the Progressive rioting, shutting down city hall, and bungling the Malheur ordeal.

>>131120699
>man that was close