Is Fascism a Good Idea?

i don't see why not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ot1ddKpfCY

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>>131097421
You're not gonna have Fascism in the US. Ever.
Despite all it's obvious flaws, your culture is such that democracy is basically deified.
The only >white countries today that are inclined to such a system are in east Europe.

>>131097421
If you're willing to give up the majority of your free will, privacy, and individuality to "save" white society, then yeah. But it depends on what you mean by "save".

>>131097925
at this point "save" mean to not go extinct, so the choice is pretty easy

>>131097711
Quality video.
Thanks anon.

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>>131097775
Sad but true.

what countries you had fasciism? Italy, Germany (ns - was near fasci), Spain (franco), Portugal (salazar), Austria (dolfuss), and more?

>>131097925
God died in Europe democracy will die in america.

>>131104083
Argentina: Perón
Chile: Pinochet

>>131104348
>>131097775
meant to reply to this guy

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>>131104083
We had a strange form of it - clerical fascism as it is often called.

It is a good idea if you like the political stance of the regime. As long as you identify with them it its most certainly better than every democracy could ever be.

>>131104905
Ustasje (idunno how to spell) were fascist, right?

>>131097421
fascists see Tolerance as a form of oppressive totalitarianism so the problem is dealing with these ill people not deciding on a "perfect ideology"

>>131097421
Yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqHqCyjeugI

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>>131105610
Ustaše, yes.
The best spelling you can do in english is Ustashe, that's kinda how it's pronounced.
They had catholic priests as death squad commanders and everything.
Shit was Warhammer as fuck.

>>131105675
the problem with the tolerant, is that they'll tolerate anything.. except intolerance.

hah bah dah

>>131097421
You can leave any time you want.

>>131106435
>catholic priests as death squad commanders
and people say the Serbs were ruthless..

lol

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>>131104905
hrvatska ustaša
ne dirajte vi ognjište naše

>>131097421
Niggerless fascism is a good idea.

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>>131106495
>if you don't like something about a country you should just leave
That's not how politics works, kid.

>>131106632
Why do you insist on making such great war music?
Makes it hard to hate you.

>>131097421
nope
fascism only is good for hive insects
the proper philosophy for any Human individual worthy of this name obviously is ancapism

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>>131097421
It's a beautiful idea, but in your case will remain as that. Unless the US gets balcanized, you will never live on a fascist America.

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>>131097421
Why is the fascist symbol a literal faggot?

>>131097421
Fascism will make a return, it just ain't gonna be called fascism this time around

>>131097421
>a bundle of sticks
>pink swastika
>haavara agreement
>lost
>fails cries and has daddy issues
>not german
>jewish grandfather
>degenerate feminist gun grabbers hooked on speed and hypocrisy
>responsible for zionism/creation of jizzrael and therefore ALL the world's problems
>most popular ideology on here
Fucking kikes

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>>131097421
Libertarian nationalism>fascism>(((american democracy)))>>>>>>>>a shit sandwich>gommunism

>>131097421
Take a look at your own country and tell me if you like fascism. America is a fascist country disguised as a democracy.

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>>131097421
Yes,join american vanguard

>>131097421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_uZIYY0XR8

Heres one of the best run downs on fascism i can find on youtube.

Check it out anon and try to orchestrate an opinion on your own

>>131107066
Sticks on their own are weak and break easily. Bundle them together, now they are a lot harder to break.

>>131107435
Who put them here? Kikes

>>131107066
you forgot a blade
don't forget they are edgy

>>131104380
Chile wasn't fascist, while Pinochet had lots of military power and symbolism as in fascist country (Chile's still kinda militaristic even today) , economic policies were quite the opposite of fascism and that's why Chile is the most rich country in Mercosur.

>>131107463
Thats why faggots are called faggots and are seen as alpha and having the majority. They were both sacrifices. Fags burned at stake to protect women. Men did this at expense of own gender. To make shekels. Grab them. And lie about the bible. Cutting and pasting their new words they had just made up. In order to make no sense. Ignoring the actual gays (different words in there) who were blessed. So they could also form a bundle of sticks faggots. Kill some of them. Suck dumpster dick. Take power. Kill their best friends the fake jews. And say this is for "g-d" that they can't type out properly

>>131107298
The ideology that lasted less than 100 years because people voted away their freedom for gibs?

>>131097421
Fascism is the future but not the machine macho fascism we imagine, but industry will control government and we will pick allegiances with our content we consume. Apple and Amazon with create nation states. You will be in the ruling party or a customer. You will only have services provided in the eco system and democratic government will be an image like the queen of England.

>>131097421
As the means of achieving a high trust Libertarian society

>>131107903
>fascism
>liberty
>liberal
>liberty liberal
>shit

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>>131107304
>America is a fascist country disguised as a democracy.
No, it isn't. The US is a perfect example of a democracy. Fascism reject this, and also is focused on what is the best for his nation while the US state is more focused on itself to the bankers and kikes on Middle East.

>>131106495
Not trying to cover for fascist OP,but...
Where can I find my anarcho-capitalism paradise where government will be minimal/ nonexistent?
If we get country like this I'd gladly leave my current one.

>>131106836
>ancapism
right. The owner of an area decides the rules, making him a de facto feudal lord, except.. he doesn't have the power to force you to live on his lands, as that would be breaking the NAP. But... he can charge you for being born into his land, according to whatever contract he wrote up for tenants on said land, and then you'd have to stay and work of your debts. And once you've done that, then you're free to move to... someone else's land, and abide by the rules of the owner of that specific area. Or stay, because after all you're too piss poor to move in the first place.

such freedom famalam

>>131108008
Who elected the jewderal jewserve? How about the jewlectoral jewllege?

>>131097421
Honestly a benevolent fascism isn't a terrible notion.
The problem is ensuring the benevolence after our glorious leader dies.
Even one selfish cunt would ruin it forever.

>>131097421
MONARCHY>FASCISM

>>131107066
>a bundle of sticks is gay
dude wat

>>131108206
>fascism
>benevolence
With all the knowledge we have we still dont read bible and know what is golden rule. Then we say the enemy are chosen. Because we read bible. But we dont

>>131107230
Well we get communism labeled as "socialism" nowadays , I guess we can brand fascism as "partiotic socialism" ... ("national socialism" is bad bc its exactly what Nazi was and it won't sell well)

>>131106836
Ancapism or libertarianism will never work, It was able to work in the past because a hierarchy that kept most people in check was around, IE religion Christianity. Once god died (and it did) society began to crumble. Nietzsche predicted this and it drove him insane because he knew the western world would become what it is now and wanted to prevent it.

So since "the fear of god" isn't around anymore
There is no hierarchy that keeps people in check and allows people to self governance, while maintaining the family structure that is what helped craft the western world into a peaceful society.

Don't believe me, Take a look around bro the western world is in chaos now. Im not a christian or religious at all but I understand the story of christianity and how it shaped the western world.

When god died
So did libertarianism/Ancapism
Sorry dude i know a lot of people don't want to hear it but its true dude.

>>131097775
America is the Roman Republic, reaching its bitter end. But when the Republic was ending, a Caesar was elected to restore order, and the Empire rose from the crumbling remains.

>>131108272
>gays arent called faggots
You listened to too much south park. Flamers? Cigarettes in britain? Vegetables in italy (anise) used at stake burnings because they smell nice? All fag words or variants on such. Bundles of sticks. Are used to kill flaming gays. Gays get called faggots. You use it in your bottom bitch ideology. Forget who you are. And call everybody faggots. I mean. Bundles of sticks. Do you honestly think faggot is not a word anymore? How did sticks become fags? I just told you. Plus nazis and closets and no balls. Dumbass

>>131107977
Yes. You must physically remove those who would seek to establish a state, so to speak.

>>131097421
How about a constitutional republic?

>>131107579
>and that's why Chile is the most rich country in Mercosur.
Chile is socialist today, the days of Pinochet are long gone.

>>131108481
>planes fall out of sky
>ayn rand takes social security after a lifetime of telling everyone else not to
Nah
>>131108493
Buzzwords. Everything secular is a lie now. America means land of the winged serpent

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>US
>fascism
Hahahaha, your country is ruled by bankers from Israel desu, you are not even free

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>>131107304
>America is a fascist country disguised as a democracy.
Until the beginning of the 20th century I would have agreed, but not anymore.
The core principle of fascism is collectivism. Having common values and goals among your citizens. That's what the symbol stands for - strength in unity.
The US in it's current state couldn't be further from that. The nation is divided on every possible front - racial, ethnic, political, cultural, ideological.
There's hardly a single unifying factor you could find in that country.

>>131108079
What is your point?

>>131108044
^Great description of what OWNER aka "The State"(AKA politicians , media & Shady bankers' organizations) do to 'their' citizens everyday around us. Thank you anon for bringing this up

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>>131108462
bruh srsl wtf

>>131108873
Are you an idiot? Explain to me how my post is democracy. Therefore making you right
>>131108872
So theyre commies. Got it. Jews gon jew. Play both sides. They hate social democrats though. Not enough fiat money to steal

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>>131108752
This

>>131108988
Explain what confused you. You wrote one of the stupidest things ive ever read. That anise by the way? Is "finocchio" in italian. I told you why they used it at stake burnings. Smells nice when burned. And finocchio is their name for queers. So you can see how fire memes spread from bundles of sticks you questioned and made an ideology over. And your own faggot comrades

>>131108954
seems you got the point, an ancap society is pretty much no different than capitalist democracy -only slightly less free for those not born into wealth.

>>131109134
>frog man understanding anything

>>131109115
>Explain what confused you
your astounding ability to not make sense.

>>131108998
>commies
A collectivist mentality is possibly the only thing the two have in common.
I won't bother explaining any further. Considering the quality and quantity of your posts ITT it's obvious you're either baiting or have a mental disorder.

>>131097421
>Is Fascism a Good Idea?

No. It's least-common-denominator politics and usually turns into a circular firing squad. It's extremely unstable and rarely lasts more than a decade.

>>131109195
>mog fran anystand underthing

>>131109247
Nice specifics. My job here is done you smell like BO. Go smoke a fag on the UK isles. Maybe he'll be a homo

>>131109276
Yeah eh. Duped by freud. Duped by kikes. An idiot without argument. A weak retard bitch ass. Not my problem fix your own psy ops

>>131109300
>a circular firing squad
sounds pretty metal desu

>>131109327
I might just go and do that, why not.

>>131109523
Focus on the penis maybe you can open your eyes to all the pussy juice that blinds you

>>131109300
>It's extremely unstable and rarely lasts more than a decade.
Because in most practical implementations throughout history it was never meant to last in the first place.
It was often installed as a temporary system in reaction to extreme circumstances, usually commies trying to take over a country.
When the situation was normalized, most fascist systems would gradually revert to a democracy (see Chile under Pinochet)

>>131106967
>Unless the US gets balcanized

What about an imperial fascist America where the negro and mestizo states are territories of the empire? Similar to ancient imperial Rome. I say that simply because controlling our current territory coast to coast is very politically advantageous and can ensure the survival of our nation for a very long time.

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>>131097421
No. Fascism is a dead end. There are no functioning fascist states today, they've all been stamped out.

Even if fascism could work on its own merits, its completely demonized in the world as an ideology that needs to be eradicated the moment it comes to power. If you managed to install a fascist regime in any great power country, many other great powers would ally against you and likely even declare full war on you. The last time fascism tried to fight off a bunch of great powers, it lost. Hard. See WW2. Fascism is seen as a threat to be eliminated. Forget it anon, fascism isn't going to happen. Just let it go, man.

>>131108998
The federal reserve was created on 1913. The US has been a two-party democracy since 1856.
>electoral college
What about that? Jews have infested everything in the US by years and through democracy. The electoral college makes no difference.

>>131097421
>Fascism
>America

You need a strong identity and a feeling of culture and history in your land to unite the people, America has non of this, It's literally a nation of immigrants

>>131097711
>takes three minutes to get to saying what the fuck it is
>basically can be summed as it's collectivism plus socialism
I prefer individualism.

>>131097711
Cultured-thug is GOAT.

I recommend everyone subscribe to him, his videos are criminally underrated, especially here.

>>131109610
I'll be sure to do that, thank you kind anon-kun.

>>131104083
>Romania with the Iron Guard/Legionnaires
>Hungary with the Arrow Cross Party (though more NatSoc than Fascist)
>Norway with the Nasjonal Samling (again, more NatSoc than Fascist)
>Slovakia under Slovak People's Party/Ludaks

Debatable ones:
>Greece under Metaxas
>Vichy France under Petain

>>131110224
Then we do a simultaneous worldwide fascist revolution

>>131110942
I thought nat-soc was just a more right wing take on fascism?

>>131097711
I advise everyone to watch this video, He speaks what /pol/ forgets. It's not a rant btw.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1XJ6ZBlZHM

>>131111053
NatSoc's really just a racialised fascism, it's all about the race. Some would argue that it's not even a form of fascism, but I'd disagree, because it's a uniquely Germanic form of folkish nationalism centred around a complete rebirth of the nation, all looking towards one goal, often with corporatist elements too for added similarity.

>>131111053
The relationship between nat-soc and fascism is pretty blurry and confusing.
You'll often hear people say they're the same thing, or that nat-soc is a type of fascism.
In reality most of the principles are the same except fascist states usually go for a more privatized economy whereas nat-soc had a mixed economy with socialist programs.

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>>131110953
>A simultaneous worldwide fascist revolution

Yes, that will totally work. You will somehow manage to convince many different national groups, each of which thinks that it should not be beholden to foreigners, to work together. That makes perfect sense.

>>131110422
You won't be able to have that ever again without a homogeneous nation of the most individualistic people to ever exist, Europeans/'whites'. I think that's why we've seen so many Libertarians become white nationalists lately; they're realizing it's the only way for it to work.

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>>131111346

>>131111346
Name one libertarian that became a white nationalist.

>>131111346
>You won't be able to have that ever again without a homogeneous nation of the most individualistic people to ever exist, Europeans/'whites'
Proof?

>>131111341
Considering all European/white nations are under attack at the same time, yeah.

>>131111280
racial stuff is justifiable in the Old World because entire countries are historically populated by a particular race.

It would have to be le civic fascism in 60% land without civil war/deportations/culling. This would be fucking IMPOSSIBLE because niggers and beaners cannot comprehend the greater goal ideal of fascism because they have long gorged themselves on dependency.

>>131111525
christopher cantwell.

>>131108044
this implies that a woman was allowed onto the land to give birth to someone in the first place, which wouldn't be permitted. and you sound like a very bitter poor person who probably thinks the rich should be taxed more
try again

>>131111456
wtf I'm a #cruzmissile now

Every one of these memes shows a misunderstanding of libertarianism. Libertarianism can give you the same result as white nationalism, you just don't have to genocide people, you can just not give them gibs and they will die, leave, or aggress on someone and get killed.

>>131111525
That's usually the /pol/ cycle.

>>131097421
I think fascism was an attempt to bring classical aristocracy into the modern world.
It's intent is noble.

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>>131097421
the US is already corporatist, which Mussolini says is another word for fascist. Just be a libertarian.

>>131111280
>>131111324
>>131111656
good clarifications, thanks.

>>131111730
https://christophercantwell.com/

>I’m Not A Nazi, But…Since getting into demographics, and making a name for myself in Alt Right circles, a lot of people call me a Nazi. Still others complain that I do not call myself a National Socialist. I myself still reluctantly say I’m a libertarian, even though an overabundance of what Murray Rothbard called “modal libertarians” have rendered the word completely useless. Sad though it may be, the libertarian movement as it stands is in cooperation with communist subversives who are trying to

>>131109725
It looks like a good idea but a big part of the American population have weapons and they love their "freedom" so a fascist empire would be difficult to achieve. I think the should make a confederation and start purging the states individually.
>>131109300
>rarely lasts more than a decade
That can be true for Romania but in the cases of Italy and Germany they didn't last for reasons who aren't related with their systems. Also, look Spain, they were fascist for a long time and only turn into a democracy after Franco's death.

>>131111826
Can I be a race realist and still be a libertarian?

>>131111826
No, that's a meme created by national socialists in order to jew a false consensus.

>>131111762
>this implies that a woman was allowed onto the land to give birth to someone in the first place
unless she herself was born onto the land. Do you imagine the owner of a land leaving it desolate? Why would he do that?
>and you sound like a very bitter poor person who probably thinks the rich should be taxed more
not an argument.

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>>131109725
>What about an imperial fascist America
America is imperial already. Actually if you see the World history repeating itself in cycles time after time like frogs do , you'll notice that Europe and America are just modern versions of Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome .
While Ancient Greece fell from barbarians flooding and became Roman provience (same as EU with arabs now and becoming Eurocaliphate) , Ancient Rome had other problems (economy, demography, leadership, read about it srsly) and it lost control of distant proviences and colonies - sadly this can be seen also in case of USA - it's losing influence especially in Pacific (look at Philiphines,Japan and TPP- now they will hug to China) but also in Europe (mostly bc leftist propaganda in EU and mistakes in previous "Peace nobel winner, new war starter" POTUS's foreign policy) , not to mention the US rising debt that will make it impossible to finance military spending to match China and others.

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>>131110224
Kikes killed fascism
Kiked are terrorized by fascism
It's their nightmare
But fascism, in a form or another always prevails, see the third wave experiment

We'll just rebrand it
I purpose: Vectorism

>>131111963
Yes, that's what all the libertarians here are.

>>131111963
You can. But libertarianism cannot combat the problem the West faces today.

>>131111955
Did I not answer your question?

>>131111456
>the nigger was far happier and more prosperous under Colonialism.
[citation needed]

>>131111851
>I'm 12 years old and what is fascism

Your understanding is pleb tier. Fascist economics is about state-controlled corporations/syndicates to deal with different sectors of the industry. It's just rhetoric and leftist hogwash to say that today's corporatism is anything close to what fascism was trying to achieve. Crony corporatism is international vested interests for the benefit of a few at the expense of a great many, whilst fascist corporatism is completely people-oriented.

Watch this when you have time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYXhOT1ZMEg

>>131111963
Nigga get on some Hoppe and Rothbard if that's your stance, go ask in the Right Libertarian generals when the next one rolls around.

>>131112219
Did I not refute your answer? He's a libertarian.

>>131104083
Franco wasn't a fascist, he was a conservative military dictator. He worked with Fascist paramilitaries during the war, but this group were marginalized after the war

>>131097925
>despite the fact there was more privacy under national socialism and more individuality under the fascist society than under the current democratic america

>>131111851
Fascism kills garbage like McDonald's. That shit doesn't contribute to a healthy, strong, society. It's limited corporatism

>>131111851
No it' corporativist not corporatist
Corporatism: a kind of capitalism that is kept in line with state interests
And with some basic policies to take care of the people: healthcare,school


Corporativism: power to big corporations (jews)

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>>131112340
This is accurate.

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>>131097421
Fascism is nice if you're looking to lose all your rights and freedoms but don't want communism.

>>131112334
Yes, a white nationalist as well. That answers your question; they aren't mutually exclusive.

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>>131112466
Yeah, he backstabbed

>>131112416
>fast cheap food doesn't contribute

Yes it does. Some people need fast cheap food sometimes.

>>131112554
He's not a white nationalist, he's a race realist.

>>131112464
that's a fucking retarded difference.

>>131112706
Wait what ?

>>131112034
well if she was on his land
1. by her own free will it's her fault for giving birth to the child on private property
2. against her free will, this is impossible as if we're talking about a hypothetical situation anyway, I'm going to assume he will not violate the NAP and not force her onto his land

>>131112635
He's also a white nationalist. Is it that hard to understand?

>>131112635
>Making people fat slobs is good, it can destroy marxism

This is the last time I'll reply to your baitposts

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>>131103595

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>>131097421
>>131097775
>social democracy - welfare state, pro-capitalism, libertarian
>fascism - welfare state, pro-capitalism, authoritarian
What did I mean by this?

>>131112787
It's also wrong; stop making up terms to fit with your ideology.

>>131112887
Eating mcdonalds every once and a while doesn't make you a fat slob. You're not smart enough to tell other people what's best for them all the time.

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>>131112917
>fascism - welfare state
You need a helicopter ride

>>131112549
Freedom isn't about doing whatever you want, it's about being able to do what is right.

>>131112849
>by her own free will it's her fault for giving birth to the child on private property
exactly, hence my point: just to bad if you're born into poverty, like back in the feudal days it was just too bad if you were born into the lower caste of society. So, there we have it, ancapism is neofeudalism.

>>131113287
You realize both Germany and Italy had a lot of gibs, right?

>>131113030
>I like fascism b-but don't you dare take muh mcdahnalds!
>Gadsden flag
lol rednecks

>>131113486
>>131113287
Wait, nevermind, of course you don't. /pol/tards are illiterate.

>>131111525
me

>>131113287
Germany had huge social welfare programs. The difference being it was for widows and the elderly, not cheap niggers living on the dole for laughs.

>>131112466
It's odd that fascism is conflated with military take over. It's civilian nature ensures that it can only succeed in a at least quasi democratic fashion

>>131113030
You don't understand addictive personality's and traits

>>131113505
It's bait. Nobody is retarded enough to defend McDonald's.

>>131113486
>>131113658
>Germany
Socialism is what differentiates Nat-Soc and fascism >>131111324
>Italy
I'll need source for that

>>131113658
Hitler subsidized women to encourage high birthrates.

>>131097421
>is fascism a good idea?
It failed even harder than communism did.

>>131112409
If that is even true, it's purely because of the advancement of technology. Fascism is a totalitarian ideology, the state controls your whole life and can do whatever it wants with you, you're not allowed to have a say, you're a part of the collective and are expected to do what you're told.

>>131113697
A FashDonalds would operate much like McDonalds does today. Likely the only difference would be slight menu changes, and the ingredients which went into the items.
The logistics of how those ingredients are grown and processed would change as well.

>>131112884
He's not a white nationalist, he thinks exactly like me

>It is not unfathomable that one could organize economic policy in such a fashion as to do the opposite. I’d go so far as to say we could dramatically improve the quality of our people in a generation just by slashing taxes and limiting wealth redistribution schemes. But what if we also started funneling government money to our think tanks and activist groups like the left has done for decades? What if Roe vs. Wade was overturned, and white areas reduced access to abortion while black areas increased it? What if, instead of a suicidally altruistic immigration policy, only the best and brightest were permitted to enter Western societies?

He doesn't want to genocide people or deport all non-whites, he wants to use free market principles and stop immigration.

>>131113729
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Italy_under_fascism
> A. James Gregor, Italian Fascism and Developmental Dictatorship, Princeton: NJ, Princeton University Press, 1979, pp. 258-264
>When New York city politician Grover Aloysius Whalen asked Mussolini about the meaning behind Italian Fascism in 1939, the reply was: “It is like your New Deal!”

>By 1925 the Fascist government had “embarked upon an elaborate program” that included food supplementary assistance, infant care, maternity assistance, general healthcare, wage supplements, paid vacations, unemployment benefits, illness insurance, occupational disease insurance, general family assistance, public housing, and old age and disability insurance.

>>131113921
They do have salads and such. Those nuggets would be first off the menu though.

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>>131097421

JIDF pls go. You are the manifestation of that which you claim to abhor.

>>131113911
>the state controls your whole life and can do whatever it wants with you, you're not allowed to have a say, you're a part of the collective and are expected to do what you're told.
This is what happens when the summary of your whole knowledge on an ideology comes from those who despise it.

>>131114025
Who benefited from those?
What conditions did one need to fulfill?

>>131112787
I guess I'll show how the difference, according to your definitions, makes no sense:
corporatism - State controls corporations
corporativism (not really a thing) - Corporations control state

There is no meaningful difference because in both of them, the state are the corporations.

>>131114097
You do understand the irony in your post right? you are literally doing what that img is portraying. There is a ton of people in here having a normal civil debate and you rush in and post that.

The rolls are literally reversed in that img and you are the portraiture.

>>131113752

Hitler subsidized women to promote reliance upon the state. They did the same shit nazi larping faggots claim to hate.

>>131114097
>anarchy flag
anarchist were never on /pol/ you fucking retard piece of shit. fuck off to reddit. shitty ancaps were destroyed and lost all arguments as well. fascism/natsoc so kys cause it's going to happen in real life as well. fucking ancap faggot that's never going to exist and was just a jew trick for retards like you

>>131113697
This is such an absolutist perspective on something subjective it's amazing that you think you're the correct one here. I guess maybe not surprising, you have to be super ignorant of history to think fascism is a good idea.

>>131114295
>You do understand the irony in your post right? you are literally doing what that img is portraying

>oh the irony.

Turnabout is fair play.

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>>131114320
>anarchist were never on /pol/ you fucking retard piece of shit

Keep dreaming, faggot. Your historic revisionism is showing.

>>131113939
That just makes you a white nationalist. A Nazi and a libertarian can both be libertarian; they just have a different means to the same end.

>>131114297
He subsidized women.
He subzidized his people to increase birthrates meaning it catered to the family structure and not big corparations.

That literally the best way if any to use subsidizes. I don't see an issue with that. If the government is actively doing the right things to support its people and is geared to maintaining and supporting a health family structure why do you have an issue with that?

>>131114515
I meant white nationalist instead of libertarian on the second one.

>>131114297
You're so far deep into your own dogma you've lost sight of all meaning.
There is nothing wrong with a government being structured to support its own people. The Germans having policies which help the Germans is not bad.

Human beings are inherently collective entities, not radical individualists. You could argue that its better to foster economic conditions that give individuals to achieve economic stability, and mobility on their own, but this is much harder to do in an overtly hostile environment. Market forces let a system work. Government forces can make something work.
We don't even fundamentally disagree on these principles, only on the execution which facilitates reaching the end goal. Stop thinking we're enemies in this.

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>>131097421
>I am getting disillusioned with democracy here in the United States and I'm genuinely curious, is fascism a good idea? What does /pol/ think about it?

Can you name a time that fascism didn't eventually fail?

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>>131114265
So Coca Cola , McDonald's TexaCo and Apple are the state ?
No but in America, through lobbying they have a lot of political power

>>131114379
Well I mean you are in the wrong. Sorry dude.

>>131114461
No way her forehead is that big

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>>131114336
>you have to be super ignorant of history to think fascism is a good idea.

>>131114622
Finland system is based on the State corporatism doctrine

>>131114233
>Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...
>The Fascist conception of the State is all embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism, is totalitarian...
Mussolini's own words, you retard. I could also quote his statements about Croats being subhuman trash.

>>131097421
Fascism is pure reactionary. It's good for cleaning up the cunts and dogs but not good as a permanent political state.

Fascism will never rise again but something like it will

>>131114622
can you name me one time that it did fail on its own and was not bombed?

>>131114683
Stop replying to bait m8

>>131114626
>No but in America, through lobbying they have a lot of political power
Which means they control the state; they are effectively the state, if not officially.

>>131114515
No the difference with white nationalists is that they're rigid on the nation being 100% white. I have no problem with shitskins that stray from the pack and act like white people, and under my system only most of the shit skins would be sifted out.

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>>131097775
Dont remind me!!

>>131107656
low quality bait off yourself faglord

>>131114233
>What conditions did one need to fulfill?
Be an Italian citizen?

>>131114622
I'm starting to think posts like this are just bait, It didn't fail on its own. WW2 happened and the system got destroyed by being over thrown by a foreign government.

Not understanding how that means it "failed"
You could say communism failed because it imploded on itself which is true
You could say socialism failed because it implodes on itself which is true
But saying a system failed because another nation overthrew it doesn't make sense

>>131114827
So the state does not controls the corporations right ?
That's hardly fascist-corporatism

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>>131113353
>it's about being able to do what is right
I'd rather be free and make my own mistakes, thank you very much

You can be a bootlicking fascist loser if you want but it's not for me.

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>>131114538
>not big corparations
Keep telling yourself that.

>>131114825
You sound like a leftist trying to create an echochamber. I think we're having a good discussion here instead of just jerking eachother off with natsoc memes.

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>>131114765
Fascism is necessary. It's good for establishing NAP but not good as a permanent political state.

Fascism will rise again and something better will come out of it

>>131115024
>no one ever helped a socialist or communist nation "implode on itself"
this is literally what the CIA is

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if any of you would like to join a political discord to discuss things such as national socialism,facism,confederacy's, and world issues the join this. WFKZhgh (trolls and kikes will be banned.

>>131097421
No, fascism will inevitably lead to war and conlict

Like it or not, Democracy is the best system we have

>>131114757
>accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...
Which effectively means a ban on degeneracy, not a total clampdown on individual liberties.
The citizens of Italy at the time enjoyed a standard of living only surpassed by Germany and a handful of other states.
This idea of some repressive hellhole that you're trying to portray obviously doesn't match the reality.

>I could also quote his statements about Croats being subhuman trash.
I couldn't give less of a fuck about Mussolini or his opinions, we're arguing the ideology, not personality.

>>131115069
That's a shit tier reply with some random ass graph that looks like you just googled "graph" than saved and uploaded.

If a government is actively helping its people and maintains the family structure in a middle class state... and is efficiently doing so. Why is there an issue?

>>131114890
"I want a white nation with a very minimal amount of shitskins; if they are going to live here, they have to act like whites and be as smart as whites. I'm not a white nationalist though."

Sure thing bud.

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>>131097421
>fascism
subordinate to nazism >>131114383

>>131111525
me

>>131115039
It's still corporatism.

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>>131114807
>can you name me one time that it did fail on its own and was not bombed?

Well maybe if fascists could refrain from invading neighboring countries, we'd know how far they could go. The only modern analog would be countries with a dictatorship and they aren't exactly considered successful. The most successful first world countries are pretty much all forms of democracy.

>>131114622
Fascism isn't supposed to be permanent. It was created as a pure reactionary movement against communism. Fascism is a defence mechanism

>>131097421
fascism or a monarchy is better still hope for a democracy that puts conditions on the people that vote and restricts the right to vote
pure democracy will never work because it expects every one to be informed selfless rational and with a view of the bigger picture and so one when you know most people are not

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>>131115055
>bootlicking

Enjoy making your mistakes then, going back to your lifestyle of eating fast food, drinking profusely, maybe smoking weed cos' it's just a plant, trying to get a nice-paying job that you can work at into your old age for someone else to make money off your sad and bland existence, watching your Chinese-manufactured TV in your overpriced home filled with other Chinese-manufactured goods watching Hollywood bullshit and blatant lies from the (((media))).

It's alright, you don't have to think of an alternative. You're your own person, completely free to make your own mistakes. And by golly if you want to change it, I'm sure the current society will accommodate those changes! So long as you have your ebin le bootlicker xD quips, you'll never really have to think.

>>131115159
That doesn't answer the main question and I haven't looked to much into the CIA pushing governments off the edge I know its happened before and I don't doubt it but. If a system is toppled by an outside force. how does that mean it failed?

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>>131111791
>you just don't have to genocide people
Yeah I'm sure Mr Shekelstein would never violate the NAP. Also Africa has to be cleansed to make sure they don't shit up the whole planet.

>>131115389
If I was a white nationalist retard white nationalists wouldn't shout me down with "based black man" memes if I accepted that fact that a rogue black person could be better than a rogue white person.

>>131115308
>this obvious denial of reality
>this cognitive dissonance
It's true what they say. You have to be either retarded or mentally ill to buy into fascism.

>>131097775
A man can dream ;_;

>>131115355
Because the government reduced wages, suspended the right to strike, while making the rich richer?

>>131114622
Franco's Spain.

>>131108447
You mean the principate? Rome pretended to be a republic for a pretty long time after Caeser. They weren't full fash 1488 right away.

>>131114890
America doesn't have to be 100% fully white. There are only a handful of radical exterminationists in our ranks.
We want to hold a super majority, one that is unassailable. We want to financially incentivize whites to succeed in such a way that the government would be structured to promote the well being of our own people over others.
Give tax breaks, or tax credits to white families for having kids.
Have special health savings accounts for white families that earn interest and can transfer ownership free of taxes.
Do everything reasonably possible to reverse declining birth rates and improve quality of life.

We have racially biased programs like this in place currently, but they are for the benefit of a minority welfare class, at the expense of the white majority. We want to reverse this. Rather we want to end the minority welfare class through targeted legislation and demographic pressure so our people would be the only party involved in the matter.

Without bringing in new immigrants, ending the welfare system, removing the illegals, crippling the infrastructure which facilitates illegals integrated into our society, we could establish a new baseline for the prosperity of white Americans. With these things set into motion the minority populations would naturally decline as the white European population grew. We wouldn't even need to accept new European immigrants.
At the end of the day a few million Asians in the US isn't posing an existential threat to us, especially not if we held an 89%-90% super majority and had a government that functioned explicitly for our benefit. Legislative and economic forces were tools used against us, and they can be tools of our own salvation as well.

>>131115502
why did they do that its not like those same democratic countries enacted sanctions partitioned territories of said nation nope none of that also who can you say that while democracy bombs anything that is not a democracy? people talk in the open about going to war with country that is not a democracy freedom liberty and all that crap

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>>131115632
>I know - I'll just call him delusional!
>That'll show him!

>>131097421
Fuck no.

>>131097925
(((individuality)))=(((individualism)))=Literal cancer.

Grab a shovel and get to work comrade! STRENGTH AND HONOR

>>131115055
the freedom to be a fucking loser can summarize your point fuck us who would deny you that freedom do be an utter waste and a drain on society

>>131115710
Franco wasn't actually a fascist.

>>131115606
That doesn't make you not a white nationalist; it just makes the other white nationalists retarded.

This reminds me. We need fascist memes pronto

>>131115055
People like you deserve to go to the camps

>>131115769
You don't need racially based programs, the free market favors white people, you just have to get rid of welfare programs and stop non-contributor immigration.

>>131116001
How come? Was he a monarchist or what?

>>131107066
It was what some legates? Carried with them it showed they had the power to beat or execute people.

>>131115024
>saying a system failed because another nation overthrew it doesn't make sense

It failed because they had a shitty leader who made too many strategic mistakes. In a democracy, if you have a leader that fucks up as much as Hitler did, you can vote him out or a non-confidence vote by other parties. In a dictatorship there is no such limits on a nutcase for a leader and that's why it always has and always will eventually fail.

Unless you consider countries like North Korea a success. I know it's not fascist but it's a dictatorship and heavily nationalist. Kim Jong Un is running his country into the ground but no one can vote him out or stop him from making these terrible decisions for his people.

>>131115507
it is not fascism was created as a means to revive the nation the fatherland after the Great War also the Great Depression both commies and fashy are a response to liberalism

>>131115666
>Suspended the right to strike
You do understand almost 90% of strikes ever in history were orchestrated by Marxist fueled organizations. That's literally what a Union is and what a unions purpose was to organize works against the Capitalists. Strikes were a way of spreading ideology mainly Marxist ideology. Most workers actually lost out when the went on strikes the would go on strikes and lose out on months worth of pay just for a 50 cent an hour raise.

>Loss 3-4 weeks (it was usually alot more) worth of pay

>Gain 25 more cents an hour and maybe some half ass'd bennies that would eventually get cut in the future due to free market competition.

Geee wizz i wonder who benefited from that, Was surely the worker huh?
>no wonder he suspended that.

Reduced wages?
Do you have a link i could read on this because im pretty sure the NatSoc party was praised as creating an economic miracle and returning vast amounts of wealth to its people after it gained power.

>while making the rich richer?
Have you read the 25 point NSDAP program
They literally banned profit gains through non-labor
>#11 Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.

>>131115507
Sounds like something we need RIGHT NOW

>>131097421
No it's retarded

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>>131116243
Exactly. We need an ideology tailored to combating marxism.

>>131115807
Here's a word of advice, try actually reading proper texts on fascism, including genuine fascist literature, instead of basing your knowledge on YouTube videos and edgy blogs. You're not even a fascist, like most wannabe fascists on /pol/, you don't understand what fascism is, you just have some vague image about it. Your political ideas probably still fall within classic Western ideals. An actual fascist wouldn't even argue with my first post, he would agree and try to defend it.

>>131115800
>why did they do that its not like those same democratic countries enacted sanctions partitioned territories

Germany still should've stayed in its own borders. Trying to take Europe was his failing. It would've been harder to take down a German state with a strong military, than it was after they were spread thin throughout Europe and eventually even pissed off Russia. That's why fascism fails because you get leaders like Hitler who gets the idea to start wars and you can't vote against him or have any political counterparts to stop his whims.

>>131116080
He sidelined all the Falangists, and kept Spain out of war.

>>131115110
i dont think you need to establish the NAP its some thing we agree already we dont go around initiating aggression unless you are a nigger ofcourse the state kind well we can discuss about that

>>131097421
all the best countries in the world are constitutional monarchies

>>131116044
Well I'd rather not associate with the majority of them because most of them are retarded. I don't believe in race based intervention I believe if the system is merit based then the best people (which I know to be whites) will win out.

>>131116430
the borders the allies made for them? how kind of them Russia tried to expand aswell so why not expand at their expense?

>>131113939
He was just on the daily shoah, he's a white nationalist

>>131116430
oh i forgot both britain and france had colonies america aswell nobody said anything about them expanding?

>>131116735
I've listened and read all his complete in context thoughts on the subject today, I know he's not a white nationalist as most people understand the it to be. He's just a race realist edgelord like the rest of us.

>>131116615
I agree with you; I'm a libertarian, but I'm also a white nationalist. Being a white nationalist doesn't mean you have to advocate for gassing and enslaving non-whites. It just means you want a white nation.

>>131097421
Why don't you go on holiday to North Korea and see for yourself?

Oh, and while you are there, could you please bring me a special souvenir, like a big propaganda poster to decorate my room?
I'll pay handsomely

>>131097775
eastern europe.... white?

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>>131115507
>Fascism isn't supposed to be permanent. It was created as a pure reactionary movement against communism. Fascism is a defence mechanism

So one failed ideology is used to defeat another failed ideology? I don't think so. Also, it only works if the fascists agree with you. You wouldn't want to live under a fascist government that's against your views would you?

>>131116463
anon im waiting on a reply, cant just ignore that shit dawg

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>>131116484
I agree that it seems like common sense, but as you can see from our world around us, it is not. Violatioin of the NAP is also a core violation of the social contract. The price of breaking that contract is expulsion from society, and revocation of ALL rights. I don't think death is too much. NAP must be first established, painfully and violently enough to imprint it on the collective psyche. Only then will people follow such a simple golden rule. Once the NAP has been birthed, the State(tm) can just be another mega corporation.

I doubt niggers will survive the first few years. Even under threat of death, they won't be able to help themselves.

>>131116158
No but that's definitely a significant component of it. Can't have any dead weight in a time of crisis. Fascism was unashamedly a reaction to communism. Mussolini and the fathers of fascism were completely open about this

>>131116978
If a fascists governments views are right why wouldn't you want to have the same views?

Why would you want to chose the wrong path in life that will lead to unneeded suffering and anguish

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>>131097421
Mosley was a genius who few listened to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPB1jy4vmFA

It's effective.

>>131117000
Nah, you're beyond help.

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>>131107066
Delet

>>131097421
fascism, and any form of totalitarian big government, is objectively unamerican. move to europe if you want to suck government cock.
>disillusioned with democracy
good thing the founding fathers felt the same way and because of that, we don't have democracy.

>>131117158
Yea that's a good reply, I expected that much from someone like you. Good job.

>>131107066
i know this is bait but still fascist the word came from fasces a bundle of sticks around an axe carried as a simboly of authority by lictors they were in punishment corporal or capital if i get it right

>>131097421
it's like this (imho):
bad fascism > especially retarded group of anarchists
bad democracy = bad fascism
good fascism > bad democracy
good democracy > good fascism

It's hard to get democracy right tho. I say aim high, and fall back on fascism when it all comes crumbling down.

>>131116978
still did not explain how did they fail?

>>131116066
We face political opposition that acts not on profit motives, but ideologically and dogmatically throws money at a cause. People are buying legislation, propaganda has more value in the world today than true information.
Letting things play out naturally won't end in our favor.

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>>131097421
Fascism =/= authoritarianism

Fascism's state is the Organic State AKA the government changes phases over time. So you have a system where democracy overthrows authority and authority overthrows democracy whenever needed, whenever the prior system devolves.

>>131117300
>we don't have democracy
That's fucking retarded. Your country is a federation of republics. Of fucking course you have democracy.

>>131114515
>a socialist and a libertarian can both be libertarian

>>131116978
Communism was raping all of Europe during that period. It was an inevitability that people would oppose it. Communism died on its own accord, as will capatilism. It's just how politics work

Fascists were futurists and traditionalists. They believed in maximising output through means of technology and machinery but they also recognised the important of tradition, both in terms of ethnicity and blood. If fascists came after you it was probably because you were a foreign leach who had no blood right to the land. Like I said earlier they did a good job of cleaning up the cunts and dogs

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>>131097421
Fascism is probably a bit too collectivist and hard-headed, but it has many virtues. it's opposition to democracy and social liberalism is sorely needed today.

>>131114622
>Can you name a time that fascism didn't eventually fail?

Fascist Chile

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Fascism was something that belonged to the 20th century.
And by this I don't mean "le current year", it's just that what matters is not the form but the substance. A 21st century equivalent of Fascism isn't "needed", it will most likely become reality whether people like it or not given the state of things in the west.
New "blackshirts" will probably arise. New strongmen will take the lead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSpzdk25XYk

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>>131117476
That is completely untrue. The left is backed by corporatism, and NOT the Italian-Fascist-Guild kind of corporation. I'm talking dirty capitalists.

Why do you think they are swayed so hard by the leash holders of their movements to support muh open borders even though it doesn't solve the humanitarian crises?

>>131117609
no. if we were a democracy, then shillary would be president right now. we are a democratic republic, not a democracy.

>>131114622
Every system fails eventually. It's kinda how the universe works, in fact.

>>131107066
Individually we are weak, but together we form a mighty faggot.

>>131117609
well they dont exactly have a pure democracy there are some anti-demorcatic sistems in place as we see with Trump as president the majority matters not the electoral college is there and thank god for it

>>131117648
Fascism is not collectivist nor is it individualist.
Fascism itself doesn't involve specific economic nor political systems.

>>131117683
can't act like jews forever, it's simply not in our genetics to be jews

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How do we call it ?
Vectorism ?
>>131117683

>>131117809
lol more like individually we are weak faggots but together we form a mighty unbreakable faggot

>>131117766
>we are a democratic republic, not a democracy
There is no "a democracy", moron. You live in a democratic system, as in, an implementation of the idea of democracy. Democracy is not a form of government.

>>131097925
Jews are going to run us into the ground. We literally have no choice.

>>131117736
>That is completely untrue. The left is backed by corporatism, and NOT the Italian-Fascist-Guild kind of corporation. I'm talking dirty capitalists.

Soros does not do what he does simply to make money. No Zionist buys his way into political influence because hes a "dirty capitalist." These people are pursue an end goal that is not profit. They want power. Bloomberg in New York spends tens of millions of his own fortune to push for gun control. Its not because hes going to financially profit from the endeavor. The think tank proponents of mass immigration are not seeking to make another dollar from destroying stable western countries.

These people will spend hundreds of billions of dollars to get what they want, because they have an ideological motivation divorced from simple profit. Money is just a means, and they already have means.

>>131106836
The world you are looking for is "Objectivism".
Ayn Rand (a woman, how ironic for the left) completed the advent of the founding fathers and the constitution with the ONalY think it lacked; a rejection ofthe primordial evil that is Altruism.
She knew the answer to our great experiment; the solution to the flaws of democracy isn't Fascism you idiots; it's Meritocracy.

It's as good as the duce you choose.

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>>131118054
no you fucking goulash nigger. our system is influenced by democracy and democratic theory, but we are still not a democracy. we are a republic. a system in which the citizens do not directly elect their leader is not a democracy.

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>>131118108
They are at our throats

>>131117897
>bundle of sticks Fascism
>Not collectivist
That is objectively fucking wrong you you retard. It is fundamentally collectivist with no two ways about it.
You're either a NatSoc apologist cuck or a crypto shill.

>>131111525
Me famalama

>>131115507

>Fascism isn't supposed to be permanent. It was created as a pure reactionary movement against communism. Fascism is a defence mechanism

You know that won't happen right? The state will just continue to perpetuate the spook of communism to hold onto power as long as they can. Just like Communism a fascist state benefits a lot from propaganda. All you need is a charismatic leader and constant projecting of the threat of "communism" and there you go, you just fooled huge populations into thinking they need you, when they don't.

>>131116978
You need to go back.

>>131118372
I didn't know how to tell you this burger, but there is no "a democracy" anywhere in the world. Literally anywhere. All you can find is democratic republics. Including your country.
You're talking nonsense.

>>131111791

People would literally come just to squat and beg though. Even living under a bridge in a Western country is better than being in most parts of the global south. Plus, big business even way before there was a welfare state was pro mass immigration, be it in the USA, post WW-2 Europe or Putin's Russia.

Hell, even in the Roman Republic the big landowners loved the slaves new conquests brought in because they were cheap/free labour.

>>131097775
^^^lulz, everybody look at the dumb ass who doesn't understand that the Founding Fathers founded a fascist Republic ruled by a white supremacist aristocracy comparable to the ancient Roman Republic (where fascism originated).

Whenever I hear "herpaderpderp muh democracy" they obviously don't understand that the Founding Fathers hated fucking democracy and correctly compared it to two wolves and a lamb debating about what they should have for dinner.

We're on the verge of a systemic collapse, culling, and die off for the wastes of space that have grown fat off of LBJ's Great Society Welfare Plantation. Whether we restore the Republic as the Founding Fathers intended, or a strong leader emerges as a Caesar and abolishes the Republic in favor of a fascist empire, it's up in the air and remains to be seen.

>>131107579

Chile's military was modeled after Prussia's, I think they did quite well in the wars they fought, didn't they?

>>131118654
I'm totally for closing the borders to everyone but extraordinary people.

>>131118604
These charges hold true for America today. Even going back to the early 1900s. Fear mongering isn't a political policy, its human nature, all forms of government engage in it. The state of this country today is an abysmal shadow of its former self, we have massive welfare castes who think they need the state to exist. Put a man like Obama in front of these degenerates and they'll beg that the government take more power for itself.

What you've penned isn't a damning of Fascism, or even Communism, but the fact that the common man is easily swayed and foolish.

>>131114097
>communists and faggots
Get the fuck out, nigger.

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>>131118799
yes also they had cool unfiorms not hugo boss but still pretty boss

>>131118604
Probably but that's literally every political ideology and daily life for fascists was pretty good even in times of conflict

I'm sure if fascism had of won quality of life would have only rose for people who had blood ties to the land. Everyone else would have been fucked though

Why not just do what the Roman Empire did but without the expansionist policies?

>>131118864

But who decides that? Not just a gotcha question - unless you specifically denote that your country is an ethno-state people with money will find a way to flood you with cheap labour.

As for exceptional people, if their children want to get into politics they are likely to lobby for further immigration as well to increase their power base, happened in the USA with the Irish and Jews and nowadays with everyone but whites, happens in Europe today. So I'd say even small immigration can be problematic, everyone plays identity politics.

>>131112635
>Yes it does. Some people need fast cheap food sometimes.

That's true

However mcdonalds is also unhealthy unmitigated GARBAGE. Instead of being a convenience, it is a convenience AND a poison.

They cut costs as much as possible to lower prices to outcompete other chains and make as much money as possible. Their motives are in profits only, not in providing an actual beneficial service to the population, that's tangential to the actual goal: Profit above all else.

And to such an end it is perfectly acceptable to poison your customers, so long as they come back and keep spending money. It's perfectly acceptable to mix addictive ingredients into your food. It's perfectly acceptable to feed them "food" that even animals in the wild won't touch.

This is the fundamental problem with corporations that anarchocapitalists just don't understand. Money should not be the end-all be-all of society. Corporations have an obligation to the public - your business is not there to fleece them. It is not there to rob them. It is not there scam them or treat them as a bunch of eaters. Modern day corporatism has lost complete control of itself and fights for the glory of money, not the glory of mankind.

I dunno, why not ask the Nazi's.

OH WAIT LOL

>>131118799
chile had uk's backing, anyone can win with that shit, bolivians and argentinians were a bunch of pussies and peruvians a bunch of retarded morons for playing it by honor. Chileans, they had it already won through diplomacy, and having prussian training is a nice boost to clean up, gg wp

>>131119163
but did the expansionist policies not made it great?

>>131119358
Yeah, it's pretty good.

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>>131104380
Pinochet was a neoliberal capitalist, better than a communist but still a sellout. Peron was actually a fascist though.

>>131119480
They also made it fall so...

>>131097421
Hmmmmm.. a bundle of sticks....

where have I seen this before

>>131112340
He was near Fascism at least, and allied with fascist nations. Close enough imo

>>131116430
Germany invades poland
Russia also invades poland
allies declare war on one, and not the other - why?

There was far more to the situation than this reductionist position you hold.

>>131119256
not if you forcfefully marry them to national strong willed women to destroy their plans for world comination

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>>131097421
Just like Marxism, Fascism is a modern secular utopian ideology.

We should seek out Tradition. The Liberal Experiment has failed. Utopianism has failed. Because of the Nazi Party, everyone who's nationalistic or critical of minorities is heaped in with that mustached lunatic that got tens of millions of white Europeans killed by triggering the biggest bloodbath in human history.

Today, people are labeled "Fascist" by Leftists for simply believing in the same sorts of things believed by the Allied soldiers who defeated Fascism.

Screw the Modern Age. Screw Utopianism. Screw secular ideologies. Europeans should focus on loving and protecting their families, their nation and their God.

For God, King and Country

>>131111053
Nat-soc is a racialist school of fascist philosophy.

>>131116936
Yes I know you burgers have never seen eastern europeans but they have white skin, blue eyes and blonde hair

>>131120131
>slavs
>human
kek

> When dealing with such a race as Slavic - inferior and barbarian - we must not pursue the carrot, but the stick policy.... We should not be afraid of new victims.... The Italian border should run across the Brenner Pass, Monte Nevoso and the Dinaric Alps.... I would say we can easily sacrifice 500,000 barbaric Slavs for 50,000 Italians....
> —Benito Mussolini, speech held in Pula, 20 September 1920[1][2]

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>>131104083
Yugoslavia's Tito (uniter of the country) was by all means a left-leaning fascist after his split from the Soviets. He utilized fully socialist economics along with strong nationalism and cultural pride, that plausibly puts him within fascism somewhere on the left of Mussolini.

>>131112094
>While Ancient Greece fell from barbarians flooding and became Roman provience
>Ancient Rome had other problems (economy, demography, leadership, read about it srsly) and it lost control of distant proviences and colonies
Nigger what? It was the exact reverse; though Rome did experience those problems. Roman conquest of the Greek empires and Balkans was provoked by Illyrian idiots raiding merchants in Rome. Where did you even get the idea that barbarians were flooding the Hellinistic empires?

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>>131106836
Libertarianism is horribly jewish my dude

>>131119655
they all fall in the end sadly in a never ending cycle of expansion descovery conquest security degeneration crisis and then the fall it so seems

>>131097775
Nobody cares about what the us was. Every other nigger and liberal wants this country dead and so do we for our own reasons. Nobody will side with the government when order breaks down mark my words fasicsm will rise

>>131121053
but everyone can be rebuilt so long as the racial blood is kept untouched.

>>131120290
Show flag coward

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>>131115866
This guy's got it. All this (((individualism))) and (((rights))) lead to ramoant degeneracy without any control. People won't riot in the streets for gay rights if they know that if they do they'll lose their lives doing so. Which they should

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>>131097421
Nope. Libertarianism>American Fascistic Corporatism> Faggot leftist shit