How do we educate Conservatives to stop voting against their

You dont. You smarten up and realize that if you aren't stupid and have valuable skills, republican govt is doing you a favor tax wise that the Democrats wouldnt, and that both sides have historically been too stupid to properly use what they collect in taxes anyway. You realize both sides are pretty shit, take the hand dealt to you, keep your mouth shut and do your part to make sure the dumbasses below you keep you in your position.

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>>131084233
>kike detected

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Start a National Socialist uprising.

Unfortunately for you, most poor republicans still have enough dignity not to vote solely for gibs like your average dem-voting minority.

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>>131086223
>poor republicans still have enough dignity not to vote solely for gibs
>meanwhile in reality the gibs party doesn't leech money constantly

Face it drumpfy

Maybe when all the boomers die off this country will get more parties like the libertarian and green party

>>131086223
90% of Bernie voters were white, so you can't use that talking point anymore.

>>131086182
But Hitler failed. From this fact we can conclude that National Socialism is trash.

>>131086561
We can say the same about Communism

>>131086561

>Socialism is trash.

Quoth the commie

>>131086716
>>131086729
forgot to turn off my meme flag

>>131085544

They're doing me a 'favor', but they're not doing society a favor. The end game of union busting, tax cuts, and free-trade is the enslavement of the middle class, the problem is, when you disenfranchise an entire middle class you actually LOSE power which is why we had the populist candidates we had in 2016. The people just picked the wrong one, they picked the con man that never had and never will have their best interests at hand. As for mainstream Republicans, they're exactly Donald Trump, ready to bend your family over, fuck your children's futures and send money to kikes in Israel. The real answer to American prosperity is on the uncorrupted left, that promotes workers rights, fights free-trade agreements, wants to fund the schools and your children practical education that focuses on STEM and reality. The left has been memed hard by the zionist/neocon kikes on the right e.g. Ben Shapiro so now when people think of the left they think of the 2% of 'leftists' in BLM and other memes.

>>131084233
I really wonder what people think happens to the bag of money from there. Do they just envision the rich guy rolling around in it? Does he burn it? Whats their train of thought?

>>131084233
Oh look, this thread again

>>131086888
Rich people never donate millions to various charities. Its not like they are some of the most generous human beings alive, and that those complaining about the rich are actually jealous, greedy faggots.

>>131084233
As opposed to democrats who are corporate slaves but pretend to help workers. So much better

>>131084233
How are rich people ruining the poor peoples life, exactly? They are the ones who create jobs and keep the economy up

>>131086843

>turns off meme flag
>is a leaf

My sides.

>>131084233
>democrats educating

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>>131086843
Dude I fucking knew it.

Keep calling them retarded rednecks.

>>131086860

Dems get too comfy in an easy job and they bitch when their entitlement check doesnt arrive.

Build your skillset, move up, and quit crying. You are a product of your decisions, not a victim to circumstances.

>>131084233
Voting Republican is only against YOUR interests, socialist kike.

>>131086888
He puts it in an offshore bank account that contributes nothing to the US. The rich people contributing to society by adding THEIR money is a meme. Rich people hate using their own money, that's why they always take out loans for projects that get paid back by charging customers outrageous fees or flat out asking the government to pay it off or subsidize them.

>>131087120
Nobody claimed that 'rich' people ruined people's lives but they certainly have irreparably damaged American society the last 50 years by buying elections and using everything from religion to psyops to convince American people that innovation is bad, wars are good and Israel is our greatest ally. This country was never this bad for the American worker and you can't show me one fucking thing the 'right' has done to make their lives better but tote the meme of supply side economics which is the greatest con sold to people who don't understand economics ever.

>>131087120
>keep the economy up
Monkey nigger are you stupid? Who you think got us into the last recession? Poor people?

>>131084233

Give them a better alternative that won't also act against their interests.

>>131087619

>tumblr memes the post

>>131087104
Democrats are a flu, the GOP is flat out cancer. Given the choice I rather have the flu because I can recover from it.

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>>131084233

You fucking can't. Let every white Republican voter who put these idiots in to destroy their healthcare over hating brown people burn.

We have a different strategy:

Obstruct, sabotage, and humiliate Donald Fuckface in every single law he tries to issue.

Drag his approval into the gutter. This part is already done, he gets more unpopular every fucking week, and already has sub-George W. Bush ratings.

The Republican Congress is cowardly by nature. Look how they're unable to do shit with Obamacare.

They won't pass shit. Maybe a couple hefty tax breaks for their billionaire buddies, but they'll be easily repealed the instant we have a real Congress again.

We only need to do this until 2018, when their majorities come crashing down.

Then the pendulum swings back.

Then 2020 is a bloodbath for the regressive right. Like, Obama 2008 good or better.

And next time we will RAM THROUGH EVERYTHING before the demoralized assfuck right is able to do shit about it.

Next time, we roll out the hate speech laws on day one to gag pantshitter talk radio and wingnut conspiritard sites such as these.

Then we replace regressive white working class fuckheads forever.

Whites will never have majority voting power EVER again.

Then we're pretty much sailing on cruise control with a permanent Democratic majority.

One little slip. That's all we need. And it's inevitable.

He barely fucking "won" in the first place. Never forget he MASSIVELY lost the popular vote, and huge Russian hacks tilted the electoral college their way by a complete fluke.

White supremacy is hanging by a thread, and once it goes, it's the key to ending Republicanism forever.

Our firewall is holding. Conservafucks thought they'd steamroll us when they saw White House, House, and Senate.

They forgot we own their media.

They forgot we own their courts.

They forgot we will block, smear, and RESIST until Democrats are back forever.

>>131087444

You're a product of decisions that are made that are completely out of your control and randomness because the universe is deterministic anyway, and even from a compatibilist standpoint there is determinism. Libertarian free will doesn't exist so of course people are victims of circumstance, from every uncontrollable interaction and event in their life to their very genetics... I'm not worth hundreds of millions because I decided that's what I wanted in life, but because of chance and circumstance out of my control.

>>131087864
Coming from somebody who actually believes every person can be as rich and successful as myself. You could work infinitely harder than me your entire life and not be worth 10% what I'm worth. No, nothing is in your control... never was, it's all random.

>>131086561
Yeah, the whole world is against you, like you're supposed to win in that scenario.

>>131087943
Hillary was shit. The white working class hate Trump. They just thought he was better than the cunt. You sound nothing like a leftist but a damn fascist in your own right blaming whites for everything like /pol/ blames non-whites for everything.

>>131088261

The white working class doesn't think much do they. We give them the power to vote, to protect their interests, but they aren't smart enough to do it. It's really sad.

>>131087943

When democrats can run a city first, then maybe they can think about the major leagues. Until then, enjoy your poverty.

>>131086359
>republican states don't spend money faster than they get it
>13 year old infographic

WOW who knew

>>131084233
Shut the fuck up, commie. You don't know what anyone's interests are; and they're definitely not within the scope of global liberalism.

>>131088440
Lol? They've ran entire successful U.S. states, objectively the most successful U.S. states are often run by Democrats. This country has been run by Democrats in prosperous times. What kind of argument is this kid? You don't think I can't find hundreds of towns run by republicans throughout KY, AR, WV that rival the 3rd world?

>>131088031

Your pseudo intellect is just an excuse for your low drive.

Have a shit job? Surely your skills could pay the bills elsewhere.

>>131088408
Let's be brutally honest here, the white working class, the blacks, the latinos, the poor in general, they are too stupid to make these decisions. That is why education is the number 1 thing that must be made better in this nation. A smarter populace makes smarter decisions.

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>>131084233
>having my taxes raised and allowing illegal immigrants to take refuge here is in my best interests

>>131088440
The poorest state is Mississippi, one of the most Republican states in the nation.

>>131088699

You may want to look at counties rather than state color, because your GDP comes from red counties FYI.

>>131088815
Who runs the biggest urban areas in Mississippi again?

>>131088815
>"Mississippi has the highest percentage of black residents in the country—37 percent"

Gee, I wonder why the majority wants it red?

>>131088806
How much you make? The tax cuts are for people in the highest brackets and for corporations. You ain't getting a tax cut if you make 25,000 a year.

Also immigration is a thing because of the rich people you want tax cuts for so badly, are the ones who hire cheap illegal labor. Unions, which side with Democrats, absolutely hate immigration.

>>131084233
My interest is less niggers and spics.

>>131088926
GOP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_House_of_Representatives

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>>131087686
Wasn't poor people getting out mortgages they couldn't afford the entire cause of the last recession?

>>131088815
>what is niggers

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>>131084233
This is why I vote republican.

>>131088701

You say my drive is low but you're using the term 'pseudo-intellectual' as an insult to somebody who is simply replying to you on the internet. Very creative.

Have a shit job? Well... that'd be an assumption wouldn't it. I love my job and am very well compensated for it, despite not actually having to work a day in my life if I so choose not to. 'Drive' is genetic anyway... just another part of a personality you didn't choose. I know you're not stupid enough to deny determinism or compatibilism. You couldn't begin to convince me free-will exists because you're not nearly smart enough. Any argument you have about any person's job, or earnings, or intellect is completely pointless from the start.

>>131089076
Actually if you bothered to look up Trump's tax plan outside of the DailyKos, you would see the lower class will be paying little to no income tax whatsoever.
>Unions, which side with Democrats, absolutely hate immigration
Why are they voting against their interests then when the democrats keep pushing for amnesty and more sanctuary cities?

>>131089217
>48 democratic reps from the urban areas
Woah really made me think

>>131088712
Lies.
A highly aristocratic society makes smarter decisions.
> kid thinks I back Trump because I'm pro pleb.
You're the danger here. Get out of education asap. Waste of resources and it demotivates the ones with potentials.

>>131084233
>Trump or Hillary Clinton
>lolomgzlmaowtf.avi republicans vote against their interests
>human interests
>Hillary

try again son

>>131088815

Yet it doesnt go bankrupt over one city.

Wonder how they managed that?

>>131089265
Nope, it was combing shitty subprime loans and then labeling them a higher grade then reselling them ad infitum. Basically you take lumps of shit and mix them together and say it's gold.

>>131084233
Are you saying foregners, minorities, socialists, gays, and liberals cannot hurt his life?

Fuck off op.

>>131084233
oh you think it is about the money.... lol

>>131084233
You could probably start by not telling them what their interests are.

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>>131084233
here, revised it for you

>>131089076
Those "rich people" who are mostly people who own landscaping businesses and such are not the reason for illegal immigrants. That is backwards as fuck.

The illegals are here because our dollar is worth a lot more than what they get back home. Democrats offering sanctuary cities and saying every human deserves basic american rights have done a whole lot more to harm our borders and national security then a business owner hiring one of the millions of brown legion who line up asking to work for close to nothing since getting a legit job and asking legit wages is out of the question if you aren't a fucking legal citizen and are currently a fugitive of the law.

>>131084233
i voted trump not republican.
fuck off shill

>>131089940

Yeah, you're right... they clearly want to their wages to stagnate, their sons to die for Israel, their houses to be foreclosed on, to lose their health insurance, for their children to receive a shitty education making them noncompetitive for anything other than competing against 3rd world countries in manufacturing for which they'll always be suppressed socio-economically. Oh wait, sorry, "muh god, muh guns, spics took my jerb!!"

Oh you know what's best for people? Should we defer to you from now on?

>>131090025

>they were forced to employ them!
>they don't have control of who they hire at their own companies!
>personal responsibility doesn't exist if it's a business decision

Not knowing the difference between then and than. Mods, we have a child posting, please ban for underage.

>>131086359
>2005
Oh honeyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>>131089436

Funny because minutes ago your narrative was one of learned helplessness.

So if drive is genetic and not chosen should we balance the playing field for people who cant be persistent to find work? Or encourage the people who want to get good and thin the herd of lazy people?

Determinism and randomness are largely irrelevant here. Youre missing the forest for some trees.

I vote for the side whose victory will cause the most butthurt.

>>131090437

It hasn't changed at all.

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/

Red states are the most dependent on the federal government, and it has been like this for a very long time, not just a snapshot in 2005.

>>131090621
this, get your fucking anus ready for the disrespectful, nihilistic, pricks that are gen z.

>>131090205
Continue to bask in your ignorance and see yourself lose more elections then. IDGAF it only hurts your party. Your smug "we know everything" rhetoric will get you nowhere, and furthermore talking like that only furthers people from your party, when your goal should be converting people. Rather than seek to understand the fundamental problems within your own party you attack the other somehow thinking it will make more people vote for you. Pro-tip: it won't make more people vote for you.

>>131090453

Just for future reference, you pretty much instantaneously lose an argument and all credibility the moment you display a personal morality of genocide people you believe to be 'lazy.' People aren't lazy, they are less capable or more capable. The capabilities of lesser people fit an important role in society, I simply believe that their are ways to promote their capabilities that we are not utilizing because of power and greed. I'm not advocating a balance, I'm simply saying there's way to promote achievement in all people that benefits society.

>>131084233
You want white conservatives to vote democrat? Well wouldn’t that increase white priv? Do you want the dems to be the white nationalist policy? I thought white conservatives are Deplorable..... I thought.......... Dems were already the party of the Klan

>>131090394
You ignore everything I posted except for something that I didn't say, then resort to calling me a child.

>they were forced to employ them!
didn't say that.
>they don't have control of who they hire at their own companies!
didn't say that, and the "rich" people you blame are not doing the hiring.
>personal responsibility doesn't exist if it's a business decision
where does personal responsibility fit in here? why are you going to play devil's advocate for something that you have been fighting for? "The jew cries out in pain as he strikes you."

Please, keep begging for more immigration and then stomp your feet and say "b-but its the poor republicans bringing them all here!"

since you've been such a good boy lately, maybe your mom will let you use some of her welfare benefits to resub to somethingawful. i bet they miss you there.

I appreciate your concern.

>I get it, you fucking care.

Sage.

>>131090923
I'm not here proselytizing for the Democratic party. People will either see their lives and the futures of their children's slipping away so I can become richer, or they won't.

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>>131086888
If I was filthy rich, like Gates or Walmart level, I actually might burn it. Especially if I didn't have any kids or anything left behind to support. Just start cashing all of my assets which wouldn't appreciate with time for liquid cash. As far as my assets which would appreciate with time are concerned, I'd burn those straight up. Priceless art, land, businesses, etc. I'd buy a bunch of water, enough to fill 50 Olympic swimming pools, and dump arsenic and birth control pills in there. Then I'd make a video to send to national news networks where I have that pile of liquid cash and pull a pic related and then go live life as a hobo in Detroit or something while the economy goes into a recession due to that much capital going up in smoke.
I'd probably be hunted and publicly hung for that shit though, desu.

>>131086860
No we picked the right one. We broke the chains that enslaved the US. PC liberal views are a cancer. The liberals are the party of degeneracy. Liberal views are not reality based. Liberals think they live in a simulation where one day your are a man the next you can be a woman. Think of the liberal idiocy.

>>131087943
Pay for you own healthcare..... if you cant then die

>>131091819
See. Your entire opposition to 'liberals' and voting Democrat are internet memes. You're exactly what's wrong with society and you have the stink of a sad, lonely virgin. If you have this much hate now, you're going to live a miserable life. I'm guessing suicide sooner than later.

>>131091275

Did I say genocide? No.

>The capabilities of lesser people fit an important role in society

Yeah, like Walmart.

Also its not the governments job to light a fire under peoples ass to learn and work. So much money is pumped into education and our institutions have such a poor ROI. People should want to contribute to their society. As long as peoples base expectations out of life is eat shit and go to bed then we will have a shitty society.

>>131092023
Except everything he said is real and you're deflecting calling it just "memes"?

>>131091929

You sound like you belong in some 3rd world shit hole or like some wannabe edgelord. You don't think wealthy people will ever come for you? You think your success is guaranteed because you have white skin... I know exactly your kind, you'll never break 40k a year or say what you say on the internet anywhere else because you're a spineless puke.

>>131092023
He never said that. Then you resort to telling someone to commit suicide. You are projecting hard right now.

>>131091929
Big words from a probably morbidly obese NEET who lives in his parents basement and/or collects weflare

>>131092194
It's "real" for some insignificant number of leftists that happen to vote Democrat compared to the alternative. This isn't some platform of liberals outside of equality and prosperity for all. They are memes.. it's a sad attempt to denigrate an entire political party with your own brand of identity politics and teenage angst.

>>131092023
No i smell like a white business owner that’s in his 40's. Maried for 20 yrs with 2 great kids. Both of whom are very talented highly intelligent critical thinking individuals.

>>131092359
His entire post is about PC culture and far leftist social movements. Exactly what am I projecting?

>>131092232
See you know thats what your ideology wants. To turn the US into a 3rd world shithole. Well over my dead body.

>>131086561
he only failed because he waged war against the whole world
doen't mean the ideology is itself bad

>>131084233
You don't.

You have nothing to teach us about what our interests are and much to learn.

If you care so much about our interests, ask yourself what you did today to stop white Americans from killing themselves with elephant tranquilizer.

Hint: you did exactly shit.

>>131092464

Oh, so you're in your 40s and spend your time away from your family to argue with teenagers on /pol/. What's your name? I'm nominating you father of the year.

>>131084233

Stop letting mexicans in? Why doesnt the left build the wall? It surely would help the poor people and the state alike.

>>131092849
Hey I get paid really well to set here and educate these teenagers on the fallacies of the leftist ideologies.

>>131092708
What's your business called? I'd like to see your website.

>>131093024
You get paid to post on /pol/? That's really awesome, seems like an extremely lucrative endeavor.

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>>131084233
Reminder, no progressive has disputed image attached.

>>131092433
You affiliate yourself with a political dogma and get mad when people bring up documented official stances of said ideology. If you voted in the last election, then hopefully you understand the stances of the people you cast your vote for. I'm not just talking about hillary, I'm talking about everyone else on the ticket. Those aren't memes, those are politics.

>>131093044
Why is a website needed? I maintain state ran assisted living facilities.I also work directly for banks doing property foreclosures and preventative maintenance. I do not openly work for public entities.

>>131092849
>If you have any free time as a father your the worst father on the planet.

>>131093093
Actually yes. I pay minimum wage workers to do my job so i can set on my ass and collect. Capitalism at its finest.

>>131093243
Those aren't the politics of many Democrats so I don't see your point. It's the politics of a bunch of little kids who are equally as pathetic as the retards on /pol/ who refer to this incompetent clown as a God emperor. Bunch of reactionary peasants and my disdain for both is equal believe me.

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>it's a sad attempt to denigrate an entire political party with your own brand of identity politics and teenage angst.
>You sound like you belong in some 3rd world shit hole or like some wannabe edgelord.
> I know exactly your kind, you'll never break 40k a year or say what you say on the internet anywhere else because you're a spineless puke.
>You're exactly what's wrong with society and you have the stink of a sad, lonely virgin. If you have this much hate now, you're going to live a miserable life. I'm guessing suicide sooner than later.
>Mods, we have a child posting, please ban for underage.

>>131093512
I'm not impressed. I'm worth 100s of millions and I'm half your age and sit on my ass more than you do. Capitalism at its finest.

>>131084233
>conservatives vote against interests
>liberals accept Islam with open arms

>>131084233
That's one hell of a photoshop job. What happened to the old pic that was posted here every five minutes?

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>>131090205
Progressives are the cause of income inequality. This is because you steal money from the young pledging $1 today will be for them $1.20 in 40 years. Meanwhile, in the same time frame investments could grow on several orders of magnitude. The poor tend to die earlier and you can't inherit social security taxes paid. This is primarily why blacks have a hard time building generational wealth. You force blacks to pay social security taxes they often can't even cash out on. Progressives in their delusion have destroyed the lower classes with their counter-productive policies..

>>131093649
Thats your problem. You think i care of your opinion.

>>131093649
How about this, I'll take my BLM flag off and you take your Jack Ass flag off. Or are you scared of people seeing the big red leaf?

>>131086359
Darling, everyone knows that that chart is skewed because it doesn't only account for things that don't directly benefit the states. For example, if the government went into Texas to build a military base, that would count as federal spending in that state even though it wasn't "gibs".

>>131093874
I'm just saying. You're a serf and your 'job' sounds absolutely miserable. You don't become elite in America, you're born elite. You my friend are not elite, neither are your children, nor will be your grand children. My family basically wipes their asses with what you earn in a year and your facade of placidity is unconvincing. Let the rage flow through your body you old pathetic wage cuck.

>>131093649
Notice how he has yet to dispute these facts
>>131093123
>>131093759
He most certainly made his money from investment and capital gains, yet he still thinks Democrats are good for the bottom %50 when they force them to invest in the worst retirement plan ever conceived.

>>131093958

Afraid of my what?

Ohh no your opinion of me hurts muhh fe's. Yes I don’t hire Mexicans, niggers, or democrats. I discriminate. Its my right.

>>131086860
Forget it Anon, most people here are fed up with a vocal liberal minority which really isn't liberal at all and which play an insignificant role in the politic party. This is the same reason many people don't vote Republicans as they see some hollbilly nutjobs and wallstreet banksters and assume that the whole party must be one or the other. That having said I will never understand the average republican parroting the credos of their political leaders that only hard work makes you rich while in reality hard work only makes you not poor and becomming rich when you were poor is a chance that's just as slim as winning the lottery.

>>131089669
>shitty subprime loans
How exactly is that not poor people taking out mortgages they can't afford? It's not my problem if people are stupid with their own money. The (((banks))) just found a way to profit off of their stupidity.

>>131094161
Again you think I care. You seem to worship the dollar. I only need what I have to have to survive. Money is the Jew influence enslaving the weak.

>>131094218
Eh, whatever, go ahead and keep roleplaying. This is boring. 23 of the 115 posts in this thread are (You) making an ass of yourself. I hope for your own sake that you've been false flagging the whole time, because you've painted yourself as a comically bad satire.

>>131093535

>Those aren't the politics of many Democrats

However they are allowing themselves to be represented by the extreme neo-liberals while doing nothing about the fake news media.

Where was their outrage when Bernie got cheated? Even your proclaimed classic liberals were silent.

Please.

>>131084233
If left economic policy was actually as important as left social policy, Bernie Sanders would be POTUS. Back in the real world, giving even a single inch in the culture war would be viewed as a sellout by the Dems. You do all the work and the GOP gets the votes, because you won't make allowances for folks keeping their family traditions going. You can stick to your guns ( i.e. 63M Americans are racist ) but don't cry about loosing elections as a result of that.

>you read any of this thread

In truth, Republicans would gladly shit themselves if it meant that a liberal would smell it. They're lost causes

>>131094594
They wouldn't have profited without a bailout

>>131094797
If Democrats pushed economic policy they would have a 2008 tier landslide in 2018. Thing is, they keep pushing identity politics and Russia shit which won't attract new voters.

>>131090437
I don't think it's changed too much except for all the smart people in the red states fucking off to the coasts.

>>131094702
What's the alternative? A reality TV star with the emotional and intellectual maturity of a 12 year old who hasn't maintained a singular ideology for longer than 12 months in his entire adult life? We needed silence to win... I'm telling you, this is going to go down as one of the most embarassing and terrible presidencies we've been asked to endure and God willing it will destroy the republican party and hasten the resolve of the Democratic party to move back to and focus on what's actually important for American people. Until then, your futures and the futures of your kids are being cheated and I find it sad, maybe that's what we need though for you people to wake up

>>131094827
The people who profited off of the mortgage crisis did so long before the bailouts. By the time everything collapsed, they were off in Portugal getting injected with baby livers and fucking children.

>>131084233
Gee, do I want to keep more of my hard-earned capital, or do I want to piss it away to breed more negroes and mexicans?

You won't turn any of us; keep reading and - IQ willing - you may find yourself turned.

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>>131094974
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html

For every bracket above $50,000 Trump either tied or won a higher share of the vote.

Simple truth. Trump voters voted to break the liberal machine. Big orange cheeto ground that ideology to a halt. So much to the point its almost sparking civil war. So much to the point it has split the democratic party into 3 factions all fighting.

>>131084233
>How do we educate Conservatives to stop voting against their interests ?
conservatives are well aware of who they support and why

the type of voting behaviour that is anti rich people is typically left and not right

>>131095194
>Democrat oligarchy is angry the plebs revolted
You have yet to answer >>131094209

>>131095289
Yeah, self reported income is just as reliable as self reported cock size.

>>131084233
Easy. you get them addicted to porn and drugs, convince them that they don't even know their own gender, have them not just give up their identify but teach them that their race is the root cause of all problems. After you do all that, they will finally vote their interest.

>>131095409
I'm too busy reveling in my net-worth and you know it. So just stop.

>>131095390
You are mistaken, there is a difference between anti-rich and anti-becoming rich. If taxes on the high income earners are raised, the rich still remain rich. They still keep their wealth. It simply becomes even harder to become rich. It becomes harder to move up. Democrats are simply consolidating their oligarchy by making sure they won't have any further competition from new money.

>>131085544
dunno why nobody has granted this man a fpbp yet, this was a 100% spot on post

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>>131095593
So you have no argument disputing the fact that social security forces the poor and middle class into funding a horrible retirement plan? You have no argument to dispute that investment income the main source of income growth and by taking money from the poor and middle class you deny them the capability to tap into investment income?

>>131084233
Stop them from investing anything and make sure they spend all of their money. That way they won't benefit from any of the economic growth & will vote for welfare programs.

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>larping shitposter getting this many (you)s

>>131095593
>I can't dispute that progressive economic policy is often counter-productive
>So I'll just gloat about my own wealth

>>131095194

>Democrat saying God

lmao

The alternative is discussing real issues and providing solutions instead of doubling down on racism and sexism boogeymen. The dems wont win 2020 either if all they have is filibusters and obstruction.

They can start by fixing Illinois for one.

>>131095194
>reality TV star
Who got the gig because he's a famous billionaire.
>hasn't maintained a singular ideology
This is what drives you crazy the most. He's a moving target you can't hit. He could just as easily run as a (D) with the same results. The paradigm has shifted and it's not left/right; it's American versus globalist. Enjoy your 40 years in the desert.

>>131095851
I've always been for weening ourselves off social security with private investment, it's a ponzi scheme I'm fully aware, but that doesn't mean we can or should stop paying into it cold turkey. There's your answer.

>>131096125
>doesn't mean we can or should stop paying into it cold turkey
Not an argument.

>>131094702
Both the established and new media outlets published ridiculous news but the latter received a vital push past their usual tinfoil wearing readers and they just cried and moaned louder that everything they usually see and hear is a hoax.
Now let's take a look what Trump did in his campaign. On more than one occasion he just shat over Jeb Bush. You don't usually do that in any phase of your campaign. You don't do it in a debate, you don't do it via social media or to journalists. Trump's outbursts would've been a vital weak spot in his campaign but the people loved him for acting impulsively and without any sort of intelligence. Then we won the Republican race and went on to shit about Hillary. And what did she do? The fucking bimbo thought that the majority of people hated Trump for being such a short tempered buffoon. He called her a criminal without without evidence and being in the pocket of the Saudis. He brushed off any critiscism against himself as "fake news", he does that even now and it's ridiculous.

>>131096096
No my friend, it's not American vs Globalist. It's you the American wage slave vs Pedro the Mexican wage slave and it's inevitable. Thanks to monetary policy, I will continue becoming wealthier, sometimes I have to remind myself why I even advocate for the destruction of the serfdom.

>>131094507
i dont parrot republicans, i read history, thats why i am a conservative. in the economic realm i just want to be left alone, meaning low taxes, job opportunities, and no washington bureaucrats forcing gender pronouns down my throat. i have no interest in being rich, and could care less if the rich get richer, because them getting richer means they are providing more goods and services for society, unlike the government getting richer by sitting on their asses and passing tax increases.

>>131096216
That's because that is an entirely different argument for which I don't have the patience to outline on /pol/ I'm sure you understand that feeling.

>>131096398
You're presenting the most dangerous assumption that anybody with wealth understands and that is that we have any motivation to provide you with anything as we increase the stranglehold on your livelihoods. There's a reason the U.S. is on the verge of collapse, a sinking ship and you don't have a life vest and we do.

I wonder if the leftist people have more personal debt to income ratio than that of people on the right?

I'll never vote for a racist anti-white party.
>p-please vote for us, you stupid low IQ white trash...
>btw were filling your town with niggers from the city we don't want anymore lmao
>dude why are you mad fucking RACIST

Never.
Democrats will never get my vote.
Ever.

>>131084233
I can't seriously think of one "stance" Democrats are taking that isn't abhorrent to me.
Probably because I'm not a nigger, muslim, faggot or tranny looking for special treatment and/or gibs.

>>131096992

Identity politics at its best. Congratulations serf, you've been properly kiked. I bet you even have a jew dick.

>>131096398
>i dont parrot republicans
Okay
>i have no interest in being rich, and could care less if the rich get richer,
Fair enough
>because them getting richer means they are providing more goods and services for society, unlike the government getting richer by sitting on their asses and passing tax increases
Okay this is the intriguing part. Rich people getting richer makes you poorer. Anyone with a high school diploma can figure out why. Our financial system depends on consumation and the constant flow of products and services. Rich people consume and much less comparatively than poorer people which have to use a high portion of their money on food, rent, clothes, etc.
So rich people have much more money to spare, right? And what do they do with the money they're able to save- they invest it. The higher the investment the more lucrative the potential returns. Interest rates are higher for bigger investments so rich people are more inclined to invest their money again and again. Now where do those interesr rates come from? Building schools? Granting social security? Building homeless shelters? Now, that's the job of those useless government sheckel collectors wasting your money on society. Yuck.

>>131096125
>that doesn't mean we can or should stop paying into it cold turkey
>we
Nigga, social security taxes are capped. Your portion of fica tax is minimal so that's real easy for you to say. Do you think I like being forced to pay 12% of my income just for the privilege of the government promising a poverty income if a manage to live to 65 years of age? I want to invest that shit, I want to provide a UBI for my family investment income and dividends.

>>131087943
>lost georgia, kansas, montana and other special elections since the presidential
>W-WE WILL FUCKING WIN

Just kill yourself.

>>131097793
That's not a great argument since the left has long advocated for lifting the cap and capping benefits which helps SS become more solvent for those who REALLY need it, and there are some, unfortunatly, who really need it. You can't invest in ETFs, MFs, 401K through your company or IRAs? Cmon now... no complaining remember?

>>131098098
I should point out, lifting the tax cap and capping benefits is to transition out of the system.

>>131096469
Sure, but I'm not the one on here trying to convince everyone to vote for Democrat policies while bitching about Democrat policies.

>>131097536
No, go fuck a beartrap you dumb leftist cunt. The Demoshit party is constantly attacking white people, ehite "privilege", white masculinity, etc.
If you aren't a transgender otherkin freakfuck and are white and strwight you're the problem of the world.

Demoshits should never, EVER get any votes. Even regular white workers hate you fucks with a passion. I wish Trump was legitimately a fascist so we can get a Night of the Long Knives in your asses with every demoshit violently purged nationwide.

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>>131084233
Higher taxes and more welfare aren't in the interest of anybody who actually has a job. Also poor people tend to vote democrat. It's the middle classes who vote republican.

>>131084233
you keep up the good fight, do exactly what you've been doing so far

make sure you call them racists too (esp. if white), while quoting snarky articles from salon

trust me, i work for the government

>>131098620
If anything your pic showed that the difference was insignificant and Trump saved himself with the undecided voters.

>>131098468
It's literally one policy. Am I supposed to tow the party line on everything? My support for the Democratic party serves a much more practical purpose that is a bit harder to understand but has to do with the long term stability of society. I'm not talking about the small segment of corruption in the democratic party... try to understand the REAL end game of the actual people who control these parties, understand the implications for you, what do you want when you're long gone from here?

>>131098862
The pic gives Clinton a 10 point lead with the two lowest classes. I'd say that is a significant difference.

>>131098620
Welfare such as our imperialist military and all of its members and all of the unnecessary equipment? Welfare programs are part of discretionary spending, a minuscule amount actually, and it serves to improve society to the point where it's probably cost beneficial spending... entitlement programs are the largest burden on America, and they are so because the right continues to sabotage them and prevents them from being efficient so that they on the right may profit.

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>>131084233
SAGE!

>>131099232
That the military costs more money than social securtity does not mean that social security is in the interest of republican voters.

>>131099111
I meant the difference in the middle brackets was rather insignificant as a percentage. Those in the lower brackets are young and/or coloured people, of course they won't vote for the guy saying "Fend for yourself, I have no plan for you anyway, come back when you're ready to die for Israel!"

>>131086860
>They're doing me a 'favor', but they're not doing society a favor

Neither are you.

>The end game of union busting, tax cuts, and free-trade is the enslavement of the middle class

"durr durr hurr freedom is slavery having more freedom enslaves people durr durrr"

How fucking delusional can you get. You guys are never going to figure out why the middle class abandoned you.

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>>131084233
>voting to destroy your own way of life is now somehow in your own interest
Liberals really are retarded.

>>131084233
How do we convince Niggers to stop voting for their interests.

>>131099926
Enlighten us why the often summoned middle class left the Democrats to join the ranks of Republican millionaires and their tax cuts.

>>131099875
The pic was ment to support the argument that the average republican voter is middle class, not poor. And it does that by showing that poor people favoured Hilary. Also keep in mind that this poll underestimated turnout for Trump.

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Just keeping the American tradition of robbing the poor while giving them the scapegoat to bash.

>>131084233

> Showing a stereotypical picture
> Believe it's reality

This has always been liberals downfall. You assume conservatives look and say like what's portrayed within the picture, but it's quite the contrary and only a few are like that. Yet, it's the lowest common denominator and you'll continue to double down on this tactic that has caused you to lose so many times by now.

Either way, until you understand the real reasons as to why we vote conservative, you'll never be able to mount a suitable campaign against us and you'll continue to lose support.

It's your loss, not ours.

>>131100222

Checked, we do this by proving to them our policy's work. If Trump actually manages to turn this country around, then they'll believe. If not, then it will ostracize us even more than we already have been.

>>131084233
Why don't you tell me what my interests are?

Then me what your interests are.

Finally, post a pic of your degree than I'll do mine. Guarantee you my education is superior to yours.

Go nigger!

>>131098947
>a bit harder to understand
Not an argument. You're resorting to demagoguery. Like most Democrats, you make claims that you know what's best for society, but you fail to propose a solution that addresses the things you think matter. Please tell me how welfare and open borders is going to create jobs, or how education is going to eliminate the need for plumbers. Tell me how redistribution of wealth leads to GDP growth and prevents wage stagnation. Educate me.

>>131100426
Well no shit Trump catered to boomers
>no educational reforms
>repeal ACA and back to the old model
>less social security
>manufactoring jobs staying in the US
>too old for mandatory military service anyway
>already has house, car, insurance and dead marriage
The average white person in the US is like 42. Can't say it's better here with minorities booming but it's the exact same thing with Brexit, a shitty deal for young people and the old farts voting for it will be half dead when the streets start burning.

>>131099232
Here's your (((you))) you've earned it.

US entitlements are inefficient because that is what keeps them popular. Sending SS checks and Medicare subsidies to white-haired millionaires makes those programs egalitarian & popular. If we concentrated social spending on just the poor who need the help, then only poor people would support the intensive taxation that sustains the New Deal/Great Society. Messing with Medicare/SS is the kiss-of-death no matter how fiscally unsustainable because it "wastes" benefits on millions of wealthy people who happen to vote more than average.

>>131101269
>brags with education
>can't make a single post without unrelated profanities
>reddit spacing
Please show us your degree.

>>131101679
And why do you think they stay inefficient? Because many lawmakers are benificiaries. There's no way around the issue without making it mandatory for all government employees to publish ALL of their earnings.