Libertarians fucking destroyed!!!

I wish I saved that image with the bitch getting sprayed in the face that says "Wants more government" Over her head and over the guy spraying here "More government". Fuck off commie

And then the bar goes out of business because no one will go to a bar that serves lethal drinks.

>>131068944
All you have to do is say "The Gilded Age already happened." to destroy every libertarian argument ever. Libertarianism only exists because most people are historically illiterate.

>>131069454
this, problem solved

>>131069698
Sure. Just like happens in China now. Just like happened in the gilded age.

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>>131069454
>implying people are that intelligent

>>131069454
This, how fucking retarded are liberals. Only foreigner cancer would risk using shit tainted alcohol because nobody can tell the difference between 2 slants or negroes

Deregulation doesn't mean small businesses will suddenly fuck everyone in the ass, only chains and corporations will try. And in doing so people will go work for small businesses where they get treated better and paid better

Why can't people understand that deregulation is BAD for big business

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>>131068944
kek

>>131069454
not nowadays. Everyday in the news there is a recall for something making people sick/killing people in food and drinks, and none of these companies go out of business. 20 years ago they would have. Explain that.

>>131069824
>Give me (you)s

>>131069454
But that's inefficient and causes two unnecessary deaths

>>131069882
Protectionism

Everything bad is caused by people with too much money bribing government to ignore their crimes, and bribing governments to fuck their competition

Fuck government

>>131069882
>>131069833
So you're saying if a bar in your town served drinks that killed people, you would be a patron?

>>131069454
>Implying that they won't start a campaign saying that the lethal substance is not lethal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clair_Cameron_Patterson#Campaign_against_lead_poisoning

>>131070014
>Bad people kill with guns
>It's the bad people's fault
>Bad people bribe government
>It's government's fault
Hmm really makes libertarianism an illogical cult.

>>131069454
>if your enemy kills you... eventually you'll win!!
lmao what an inferior and cucked ideology, you first need to lose and get killed and only then can you start to hope that justice will be served? wtf how weak and beta can an ideology be?

>>131070077
So you're saying if chinese street vendors sold fake food, they'd go out of business?

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>>131069874
>>131069454
>>131069698
False. The business has a monopoly over the industry. They use propaganda to convince the public that the customers died due to "natural" causes and use their money and influence to crush any potential competition. This is Capitalism. Libertarian are more retarded and idealistic than bernie bros.

>>131070077
If they had a good PR team, they'd make sure nobody knew about it
People are really fucking stupid m8. If you've ever had a customer service job you'd know this

>>131068944
delet th- >>131069454 nevermind
spbp

Then nobody buys drinks anymore at that bar, bar closes, people go to a bar that doesn't kill them.

>>131070335
Hmm...let's see.

1: Regulations in place so bar can't kill people

or

2: No regulations and bars get to kill people and maybe some day the market will sort it out

Man this is a tough call.

>>131068944

>word gets out
>business suffers

We find these truths to be self evident.

>>131070153
Again, if it becomes public knowledge the chinks are selling bunk, people buy it less and less. It's the natural way of things.

>>131070418
>Muh regulations
>Muh I need a big strong government to hold muh hand

>>131070198
>a monopoly
>on booze
lol no. at best they'd be the mcdonalds of booze and people would grumble about how unhealthy but cheap the stuff is. Then only poor, ignorant people die and society as a whole wins.

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>>131070014
that's a bingo!

>>131070077
I wouldn't go there. But it doesn't matter what I do or don't do, when a thousand idiots WILL still go there. Like I said- every fucking day there's a recall on something and people still keep buying the shit.

>>131070198
Some how this became a discussion on anti-trust laws???

>>131070481
So what exactly is the problem with PREVENTING dishonest capitalists BEFORE people are killed?

>>131070530
Did you think this was an argument?

>>131068944
The bar goes bankrupt because nobody is winning to drink poison.

>>131069454
Yeah but in the mean time there are three people dead, dipshit.

>>131068944

How the fuck does a bar operate not making money?

>>131070603
Did you think any of what you're posting is an argument? Because I'm here to shitpost this thread is garbage

>>131068944
>tainted alcohol
really noggles my joggles

>>131070672
>Libertarians
>Caring about killing people if they make money off of it

>>131070198

The idiots who are too stupid to see past obvious corporate propaganda die off. What's the problem again?

Face it, ancapistan is the fastest way to achieve a high IQ population.

>>131070234
yeah, because it's cheaper to hire a pr team, then to use actual booz.

Retardation level over 9000

>>131070603
It's an unnecessary burden on a business owner who wasn't going to do that shady shit in the first place. There's all sorts of things we can legislate to PREVENT crime, but not a good idea, our founders agree with me.

>>131070463
They're still dead

>>131070120
It is the government's fault, they are supposed to be running shit and policing all our wrongdoings but they are so easily corrupted

The consumer however is not. A place sells horrible shit, word will get round and that business is done. Then instead of our retarded 'justice' system, we can then have the family of the deceased sue the crap out of the other guy, which stops him and his family for good from serving poor quality trash

Libertarian =/= ancap

>>131070615
>bar invests in a media company
>media company spreads lies about how safe the bar is
>the bar is your best friend, your family, and sexy too
>people flock to the bar
>more people die, deaths are covered up and explained away

People are not intelligent enough to make these daily decisions. They need an advocate fighting for them keeping these companies honest. That's why we have regulations

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>>131070418
regulations eventually turn into mass surveillance.
look around you.
a bar that has a reputation of serving tainted drinks will never regain that trust.
"those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety"
plus libertarians secretly want to live in a post apocalyptic dystopia

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>>131070077
>>131069698
>consumers have perfect knowledge
>lolbertardian logic

>>131070596
Let them, natural selection is a wonderful thing. I hate daddy government getting in the way of me just doing my thing and not being a fucktard

>>131070672
No, because those people won't actually die. The bar owner has a vested interest to not serve them lethal drinks. The law didn't prevent him from killing them, his own common sense did.

>>131070781
Sometimes it's much cheaper to use a lower quality product and foist it on millions of people through a snazzy marketing campaign. Happens literally every day

It's because people are not rational, they are tribal

>>131070787
Anon pretty much wants Minority Report, the entire left does just look at Germany right now. If the left were to keep winning elections in the US I have a strong belief the same would start happening to us

>>131070120
>Bad people bribe government
>It's government's fault
How is the government not at fault for excepting the bribe here?

>>131070916
>consumers shouldn't be responsible for researching what they consume

>>131070856
Please tell me how these crimes are magically covered up with the internet? People become more intelligent when exposed to danger. Regulations are weakness, modern society produces weak worker drones not fit to call themselves human

>>131070856
They need an (((advocate))) "fighting" for them keeping these companies "honest"

>>131070916

Oh look, that one commie jew larper has found this thread. Why don't you try to explain to us again how Bolshevism is the one and true ideology?

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>>131069134

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>>131068944
Not making your own booze?

>>131071093
My kek bless you anon

>>131069454
Thank goodness only 3 people had to die for that!
And more will keep dying because different bars will eventually skimp out and keep selling tainted alcohol because it's cheaper!

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>>131070787
>unnecessary burden
This literally means nothing. It's a religious belief. Nothing more. Again, as my first post stated, all you have to do to disprove libertarian shit has any merit is to mention we already did shit your way and it was a fucking nightmare. Where the hell do you morons think all those regulations came from?

>>131070805
Another religious belief. Why is a briber not to blame? This is like saying "Well if you don't catch me killing people, then it's your fault."

>>131070903
>regulations eventually turn into mass surveillance.
Yet another nonsense religious belief. And I'd rather live under a surveillance state than in a world where water is privatized without regulation and you're forced to buy it for outrageous prices full of toxins.

>>131070916
This.

>>131070928
Oh I guess corporations have never done anything bad nor killed anyone because that "would be bad for business". Well, that's that. Thread's over. Everyone go home now. Jesus fucking christ libertarians are so simple minded.

>>131070969
They're both to blame. How is the briber innocent?

>>131071042
>Say something obvious in condescending tone
>Think that now that makes it not true
Retard lol

>>131070603
>So what exactly is the problem with PREVENTING dishonest capitalists BEFORE people are killed?

i was wondering how you can even become retarded like this beyond limits

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>>131069454
>businesses with unethical practices will suff—

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>>131070903
>putting poison in your products will drive you out of busine-

>>131068944
Literally the exact same thing could despite regulations though? Are Commies seriously this retarded?

>>131071216
look at this autist

>>131071025
>People become more intelligent when exposed to danger
No. People are supposed to be part of an integrated national heirarchy. Not every man for himself mad max world. Most normal people are not smart or motivated enough to be self-actualized fully independent people. Only a very few special individuals rise to this standard, these are the elites.

It's the job of the elites to fight for their people's interest. Just as a parent looks after a child

>>131071233
>>So what exactly is the problem with PREVENTING islamic terrorism BEFORE people are killed?
>i was wondering how you can even become retarded like this beyond limits


This is what you sound like

>>131071254
>>131071272
Great minds think alike

>>131068944
don't buy alcohol from Jews

they have a long history of poisoning it.

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>>131068944
Their family sues the barkeeper in a reputable private court, who is convicted of murder as a violation of the NAP. He resists, but is overcome by the community (or a security company the community hires) and has his assets liquidated and subsequently split among the three aggrieved parties. He is forced to serve as a slave to the three families until he is unable to work any longer, at which point he is rightly executed.
Sic semper tyrannis.

>>131068944
How the fuck does the bar expect to stay in business if they kill their customers?

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>>131071272

>>131069833
well even better, all the stupid people will die

what's the problem?

>>131068944
Anybody unironically using a picture of Che can have their opinion immediately discarded.

>>131068944
>implying people needed regulations to drink before the government
>implying the government doesn't have a vested interest in poisoning alcohol if the alcohol has been restricted
>implying it never happened during prohibition

>>131071272
>Government allows them to sell the poison will regulating the more healthy choice
Sure is great to have government shaft rammed up your ass

>>131071254

Name one unethical thing you think Wal Mart does and I guarantee with 90% certainty that it is a completely baseless claim made up by some liberal journalist from Huffpo, Mother Jones, Slate, etc.

>>131068944
But the bar would be responsible for serving tainted alcohol. The bar would close. The owner would lose his business and face prosecution.

>>131071130
I love pics of people getting maced

>>131071272
A product with a very slow acting poison that also contains a drug that makes you feel good.

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retard doesn't understand libertarianism
without cops
the victims falimlies could murder the bartender
result: bartender does correct thing
also white people are civilised based on most
white ppl understand consequences
the brown hordes don't

I had friends who grew up in kibbutzs'
these are left wing libertarian havens
except they aren't
the lazy leech of the hardworking
and these ppl eventually leave and shift right

ANCAP means only the hardworking reap rewards

>>131071272
Are all communists stupid like this, who is forcing you to buy poison, if you are stupid enough to buy it it is your fault, and if you die again it is your fault it is called natural selection if you dont care about yourself and have low IQ to buy poison you will die capitalist does not have anything to do with that he did not FORCE you to anything. Capitalist system is the best system there is

>>131071495
Because, most of those "stupid" people would perform admirably if they were part of a nation. So long as they are honest and trustworthy.

Some of the smartest people in the world are vicious snakes.

>>131070120
Well yeah, your analogy would hold if a gun was living person and you would need his/her consent to pull a trigger.

Why can't leftists into analogies seriously. I've watched John Oliver or someone like that the other guy - his every other sentence is an analogy of some kind, problem is, he still doesn't know how to use analogies.

>>131068944
I got one guys

stahlin, lenin, and trotsky walk up to a bar, where they kneel down and then are executed by che guevera for consuming alcohol a major crime against the government and people.

Op confirmed commie faggot shill.

>>131070561
>>131070752
Not a solution. The poor and stupid are the backbone of Capitalism. They spend money, smart people save/invest.

>>131071556
Have special offers on junk food

>>131071726
That was a good one, here's your (you)

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>>131070603
>So what exactly is the problem with PREVENTING dishonest capitalists BEFORE people are killed?
>people are naturally malicious and will deliberately open a business to sell cheap, dangerous products that will kill people
>but the totally good people in the government can be trusted to regulate these other people opening business

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>>131071660
Problem is, government breads stupid people, by transferring wealth from the rich (and usually smart, there is a correlation between iq and income) to the poor (and usually sutpid).

So stupid people get to reproduce, and in 500 years you will have an idiocracy type of scenraio.

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>Lolibertarians in a nutshell

>>131071660

>Because, most of those "stupid" people would perform admirably if they were part of a nation. So long as they are honest and trustworthy.

You are in denial about IQ. People below 87 IQ basically can't hold jobs.

>>131071339
>comparing capitalisam with islamic terrorism

you must be smart guy, if you didn't have IQ high enough to realize what was my point it was that capitalism is not killing people

>>131071804
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_0F6v1_iy4

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>be ancap
>on a business trip
>walk into a bar
>only a few patrons there who don't like tourists and take a disliking to you
>barman decides to poison you
>patrons don't care about it because they didn't like you anyway
>your body gets thrown in the trash never to be seen again
>no business has a financial incentive to investigate your sudden dissapearance and murder so nothing happens to the barman

>your family come looking to find out what happened to you
>barman tells them "hippity hoppity, get the fuck off my property!"
>they are suspicious and refuse, calling him a cringeworthy autist
>barman shoots them dead for violating his property rights

>mfw your whole family is dead and nothing happens

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>>131071865
>World iq is dropping
>America's isn't
I wonder if its because niggers are overbreeding malnourished niglets in africa

>>131071556
>being this much of a corporate shill

Pretty much every corporation engages in unethical practices which vary depending on what their business is. People ultimately don't care as long as it is convenient for them. As for Wal-Mart specifically, they give their employees only 28 hour work weeks to avoid giving them full time benefits. They put small businesses out of business and destroy small towns, and practice usury against their venders that they buy products from. If you think only a liberal would have an issue with this then you are a fucking kike rat that needs to be gassed.

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>>131071610
>when you put drugs in your product to get people addicted
Coca Cola literally did this. The "Coca" used to mean "cocaine"

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Sad thing is that americucks never was in postsoviet republics and didn't experience (post)soviet/comunist mentality and ineficancy.
Corruption, large amount of beurocrats, totalitarian state controlling people via grands, tax exempts, import/export right, etc.

Just walking talk to someone who lived in communist state and experience it and don't tell me about sweden or those fucking rich oil countrs, because you can equaly name qatar.

>>131071216
>Oh I guess corporations have never done anything bad nor killed anyone because that "would be bad for business". Well, that's that. Thread's over. Everyone go home now. Jesus fucking christ libertarians are so simple minded.


Oh, were talking about corporations now? Wasn't this about a bar?

>>131072049
That image is amazing

>>131071272
By that same token, buying untainted booze is also willfully ingesting poison. If someone wants to ingest poison, who the fuck are you to say they can't?

This thread feels a bit raid like, or is it just me

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>>131072148
Ancap thread?

>>131072032
Well, sure that's one factor.

But, why do low iq people africa have enough food and resource to raise children? Because the governments transfer wealth from the 1st world citizens to africa.

Also America's IQ went down 2 points (from 100 to 98) in the last 10-20 years/

>>131072072
>>131072072
>leddit spacing
>>>r/anarchocapitalism

>>131071216
kys my man. you clearly don't get it and are too close-minded to argue with intellectual honesty.
enjoy your autism and have a nice day

>>131072049
They still do it, it's called sugar. In fact, sugar is worse for you than cocaine.

>>131069454
my honey is actually at least 60% honey.
american honey isn't honey at all.

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>>131072209

>>131068944

Absolute liberty leads to anarchy and some of our freedoms need to be sacrificed in order to have a functional society. That being said, we're way past of balance between the people and the government in the Western world and the big government really needs to take a step and get fucked

I don't know about the US, but EU is choking on regulations

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>>131072072
>This much autism

>>131072049
Yeah, so what? In 19th century you could walk into a pharmacy and buy a shot of heroine for modern equivalent of $5.

And guess what there weren't any drug gangs back then surprisingly.

>>131070928
>common sense will steer society and determine our faith
so your ideology is basically one giant mass-suicide pact

>>131068944
Commie walks into... oppps there are no bars. Here is some mud cookies.

>>131070120
Bad people within the government's fault, which in turn makes it the government's fault.

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>>131072280
>coca cola
>using real sugar

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>>131072324

>>131068944
>regulations are the only thing that prevents business owners from murdering their customers

>commie goes to a bar
>dies of thirst

>>131069454

>Kill three people by poisoning
>Libertarian society decides to punish you by allowing your business to fail.

>>131072363
Gang formed essentially out of prohibition, that's where they gained their major momentum.
once the white man laid the frame work the niggers tried to imitate but just ended up killing each other endlessly. Also Mafia and jews, lots of jews and hollywood

>>131072072

Corporations start out as small businesses you retard. If unethical behavior puts businesses out of business then they would never become corporations in the first place.

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Wouldn't it be better for business to make sure your customers stay alive? Why don't the bars of the current system poison their customers with tainted alcohol?

>>131071272
>knowing that shit will kill you
>guaranteed
>buy it anyway
you have the right to be dumb. that's freedom.

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>>131072486

>>131072219
Not even ancap, its a fucking meme flag, ya dip.


Never browsed reddit, unless you count google searching computer issues and finding a thread.
Does this spacing rile you up?


Thanks for your useless post.

>>131070198

>7 series
>Z3

my almonds are extremely active right now

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>>131069454
this

>>131072550
Who says they are trying to kill you?

And who says they will care if they kill you if they are about to close?

You do realize before theodore roosevelt companies could sell spoiled meat and often did? Food poisoning was rampant because companies would call spoiled meat fresh.

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>>131072610
What's wrong with ancaps again exactly? kek

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>>131072610

>>131072072

Statists can't hold a fucking stable conversation because they know their bootlicking fetish-disguised-as-a-philosophy has no intellectual foundation.

I swear to god every time I get involved in these threads I am on the verge of an aneurysm. It's like I'm arguing with Jews. Even if they admit they are wrong, you know that these assholes will be back the next day spewing the same political cliches that were debunked the day before.

I'm not a big fan of Nazis. But I'm really on board with gassing the stupid.

And then the bartender is sentenced to death

>>131068944
Poisoning is murder though.

>>131068944
Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx, and Stalin walk into a bar and collapse on the floor from the blunt force trauma.

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>>131072834
>this butthurt
Also that'd break the nap dumb dumb

>>131072913
What a based man

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>>131072526
>>131072751

>>131070198
>muh monopoleeeeeee
Monopolies are created by the State and regulatory barriers. I could safely make moonshine in my basement if I wanted and sell it. And if there is no State then there is nobody to come after me for not having the right license to sell booze.
There are several countries where home made booze is the best stuff you can get. People have been making it for centuries at home and making some really great stuff and nobody gets sick from it or dies.
Fucking statists man, you guys think people are totally incapable of surviving without some regulation telling them how often to breath.

>>131072834
>But I'm really on board with gassing the stupid.
violation of the NAP, you are not a libcuck you're a newfag who hasn't swallowed his redpills yet

>>131072834
I'm just getting tired of the constant assumption that people going into business will actively attempt to harm their consumer base, while people who go into government can absolutely be trusted to regulate those people in business, which is why we need more totally trustworthy people in government. There has got to be a better argument in favor of regulation than that.

>>131069454
nah, the bartender can do what he likes with the bodies since they violated the NAP by dying on his property

>>131072514
>implying criminal charges couldn't be brought without a regulation stating "your drinks can't kill the people you sell them to"

You don't need a team of bureaucrats filing paper work and charging fees to make this shit work.

>>131069454
>implying
The bar lowers prices and continues operating normally. The potential lethality becomes a selling point marketed towards thrill seekers as drinks are cut with antifreeze to further reduce cost.

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>>131070928
that's not a realistic scenario. here's a realistic one for you dumdums:

if putting hot garbage into their cigarrettes would help them minimize costs, tobacco companies would do it, as long as they are allowed to. they might even run ads telling you the opposite!

as for the bar, the bar owner has a vested interest in making money.
if the a new hot alcohol brand called "literal poison" makes people come back, he will sell it as long as he is allowed to, even if it leads people to their early graves.

companies are already trying their hardest to circumvent the law in the current system. with libtard laws there would be nothing at all stopping them from doing even worse to consumers.

>>131072974

I don't consider anyone below 90 IQ human. Below 85 IQ you effectively cannot hold a stable job. Below 70 IQ you are basically operating on pure instinct.

>>131073063
Also, if individuals could operate in the open rather than in basements. They would be able to better vet their product, test it properly and keep it safer. If they made a bad batch that got someone sick, they could tell people not to drink the rest instead of hide and hope no one finds out, because they would get in trouble for making it.

>>131073131
No, that's pretty much it.
So when are we actually gonna remove this government

>>131073063

Then the monopoly you think doesn't exist goes to your house one night and fucking murders you.

>>131070418
The bar could still kill people. It would just violate regulations so they would not only get shut down, and sued in civil courts but they'd also face some kind of criminal offense(which would likely just consist of getting shut down and fined)

>>131068944
I'd say this video alone shows the twisted thinking of most libertarians:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou47n22nEWQ

It really is a joke.

>>131069454
No, the friends of those people go burn the place down and lynch the bartender because there are no regulations.

And justice is served.

So why do we need government anyway

>>131069454

Nope, the bar just kills everyone in the entire world (because they are evil). Also, they get rich doing this and buy all the politicians to make abortion and feminism illegal.

I'm 100% certain that's how the market works.

>>131068944
Libertarian = ancap. Only a commie could be this fucking stupid. Even any rand wanted some form of government you stupid fuck.

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>>131073220
So you're basically admitting the NAP can easily be broken based on subjective opinions

>>131073395
Sorry, mobile posting. Autocorrect is a bitch

>>131068944
And then the bar owner is arrested for 2nd degree manslaughter.

>>131073395
There should be a form of government, but it should not be what we currently have and should not be what OP is advocating for

>>131068944
Libertarians are the biggest cucks

>>131073272
>which would likely just consist of getting shut down and fined

Nah individuals would be prosecuted

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>>131073422

>>131069824
>Just like happens in China now
>because China definitely has a free market

fucking kys you uneducated cunt

>>131073261
That violates NAP.
Checkmate statecuck.
And btw, I'm not talking about a hypothetical scenario. I have been to parts of the world where this is very normal and accepted. Nobody gets murdered by the mob for making their own home made brandy. Even in corrupt shit hole countries.
It's obvious that a left wing loser like you needs to associate the desore to make money with some sort of evil trait in order to justify to yourself why you arent a failure for not succeeding. If success is evil then it is good to fail. But that's not the case. Many of the best people are seriously wealthy.

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Anti ancaps are just no sense memes
Ancaps have facts, arguments, and logic.
No one can deal against an ancap in a debate.

>>131073422

IQ isn't subjective.

>>131073576
love it anon

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We all know that libertarians are basically proto-fascist.
Rothbard was secretly redpilled as fuck

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>>131068944
>Ayn Rand, Rand Paul and Paul Ryan
I was expecting a way more hilarious joke after this line, but socialists gave me this instead, because good jokes were not scheduled in June 2017 according to 2015 Five-Year Plan.

>>131073213
Price is not the only thing to consider. There is also choice, quality and efficiency. Will people want to continue smoking this brand if there is hot garbage in the cigarettes? Will the quality be worsened beyond the worth of the price drop? Will the company even benefit in any other way other than a price decrease?

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>>131073778
The part where you say the NAP doesn't matter because they aren't human, you dumb dumb

>>131073772
see>>131071987

>>131073063
>>131073225
I trust people, but not coporations. Those friendly neighborhood moonshine makers will gladly cut corners once their products become popular. Without regulations , why wouldn't they do some corrupt shit to maintain their hold over the market?
What do you do when their business begin causing issues outside their markets? For example, if they dump waste into rivers which make thousands of people sick and drain millions from worker hours from the economy?

>>131073213
Cigarette smokers and alcoholics made their choice.
Are you maybe a bit overweight or underweight? Should the State step in the next time you're at McDonalds and make you weigh in before deciding what you're allowed to order?

>>131068944
Word gets out the bar served tainted alcohol and killed people. No one else does business with them, they lose their business. Free market works you morons. I love how leftists pretend no one dies with regulations in place.

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>>131073211
Sounds like a bar Mexicans would frequent

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>>131073875

>>131068944
The bartender loses his bar as no one will go to a bar that serves tainted alcohol.

>>131069454
This, if you are going to complain about external costs caused by regulation, sure fine, but commies really do have no idea what the fuck they are talking about. I mean for fucks sake they are literally killing off their demand.

>>131074109
Free markets will have no purpose by 2040. AI will have replaced all jobs by then and the only viable economic system will be socialism. I can't believe people still think capitalism has any sort of future.

>>131071216
>. Again, as my first post stated, all you have to do to disprove libertarian shit has any merit is to mention we already did shit your way and it was a fucking nightmare
statism has failed much more than libertarianism.
but you dont want to admit that

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>>131073520
>individuals prosecuted
>in corporate America

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>>131068944

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>>131074253
What if instead of socialism, we limited our tech level so that society could still be competitive, selective, and evolutionarily viable

>>131074253
Just like it was her turn right.
I'm not debating that automation is coming but you're a moron

>>131074109
Far more people would die without regulations.

>>131072526
kek

>>131074253
because surplus "theft" does not exist?
because socialism would require wealth distribution?
because venezuela with robots is STILL no bueno?

>>131074366
And what's your solution?

>>131074365
That would never happen.

>>131068944
Make your own moonshine, they deserved it

>>131074365
the amish did not keep pennsylvania white but maybe with slightly more technology they would have?

>>131068944

Did people died of tainted alchohl in the middle ages when going to an inn??

>>131074452
Robots in the present don't hold a candle to their successors. Wealth redistribution will happen in some fashion. There will be no other way to receive an income when literally all jobs are gone.

>>131074632
yes

>>131069995
Gotta break some eggs to make an omelette

>>131074048
Corporations are a state fiction. They are literally made by the state to shield individuals from the consequences of things like poisoning people. If the corporation did it then the individual can't be held directly responsible.
That's the problem with the memeball posts is trademarks and corporations just couldn't exist in an anarchy.

>>131069454
That only happens after there's been enough deaths for people to realize they're serving lethal drinks. Why not just have a regulation in place preventing them from serving lethal drinks in the first place and avoid the rigamarole?

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>>131068944
in bizarro land where only the Government is allowed to make phones:

Commie tweet 'Ayn Rand gets hit by a car, passers by try to take out her government Nokia 3310 from her pocket to call 911. there are no phone regulations so no one has Nokia 3310's. she dies'

>>131074486
>That would never happen.
Why not? we can make it happen

We can still pursue the absolute highest level of technology, just keep it separate from normal society. So it's kind of like what we already have today. One section of society is traditional, maintaining our heritage (rural), and the other section of society is pursuing absolute economic efficiency (urban)

>>131068944
>The water in Flint is govt regulated
>Obama pretended to drink a glass of it so people would think its not poisonous
Im sure the people in Michigan sure are thankful for all those govt regulations.

>>131073759
>NAP

the NAP means nothing without a state to enforce it. The strongest group can violate the NAP and there is nothing you can do about it.

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>>131073587

>>131074954
Big business would never allow it. Investors, most of whom are wealthy, simply want a return on their investment. They don't care if unemployment happens on a large scale.

>>131070198
>False. The business has a monopoly over the industry.
If you look very closely you can see the goalposts shifting in the distance as this poster changes the topic.
>They use propaganda to convince the public that the customers died due to "natural" causes
Even if this were true, they are still actively killing off their demand. A doctor doesn't do things that would kill his patients because those patients keep him in business (this is if he was a psychopath that would kill people because "lol ancap kill people XD")
>use their money and influence to crush any potential competition.
Nope, diseconomies of scale. Monopolies are created by regulation, barriers, and gov't interference.

>>131068944
Serving poison drinks violates the NAP you fucking retard

>>131075180
Look at my flag. You think I'm down with big business?
Business is meant to serve us, not the other way around.

>>131075217
But they voluntarily chose to drink it.

>>131074996
>In a country of 300 Millions the only place without drinkable water is a small town and only due to sheer incompetence
>meanwhile in places without government water people die of diarrhea by the thousands

>>131075100
You can fight back. Maybe try not being so weak.

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>>131070603
>Being this delusional as to think the government is your father figure.
You think the government is so angelic as to be corruption free, have the ability to make all decisions for you, and prevent all wrong doings?
How can you not realize that the government is just as corrupt, if not more corrupt, than the overlying corruption of people they govern?

If the society they are governing is corrupt, the government has to either be that much more corrupt and/or more totalitarian, in order to stay on top, otherwise they are overcome by the corruption they govern. It's why governments accept bribes and kickbacks. Just because the government doesn't come out and advertise they do it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I really don't get people like you who live is such a bubbled fantasy world that logic/common sense is completely void in your life.


just KYS now and do society a favor.

>>131068944
I will also add, /POL/ BTFO

>>131074833
Here in Brazil, the bars don't have regulations, and no one is serving lethal drinks.

>>131075217
The NAP is unenforceable.

>>131075326
>meanwhile in places without government water people die of diarrhea by the thousands
That's because those places are populated by savages. Europe was like that until we had the Black Death and killed off all the dregs. Now we're a lot better off.

>>131072204
Which is fine. This is feudal capitalism, and since the NAP isn't violated, this is ethical.

The problem with government is that they didn't acquire their influence and power through voluntary capitalist transactions, but from imperialism. They killed and stole to get territory, people didn't choose to buy their services when they were a private business.

No government was once a private business which become stronger as time went on from doing good work.

>>131075365
Yeah we're not talking about fisticuffs here pal we're talking about paramilitary organizations built out of economic desires of large capitalistic entities, which could and would happen.

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Statists are cuckolds, they can't imagine a life without the supreme politicians.

>>131075423
>You think the government is so angelic as to be corruption free, have the ability to make all decisions for you, and prevent all wrong doings?
Nice strawman

>How can you not realize that the government is just as corrupt, if not more corrupt, than the overlying corruption of people they govern?

One just has to compare the before and after

>I really don't get people like you who live is such a bubbled fantasy world
>he is a lolbertarian

ironic

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>>131075491
Say it to my gun.
Let's see if I can't force the nap to you.

>>131068944
Bar goes out of business, distillar goes out of business because no one will drink tainted alcohol. Kys commie.

>>131075627
U are cuckstatist.

>>131075641

What is your gun against a hundred? Or do you think PMC's wouldn't exist in a stateless society lmao.

>>131072527

Killing people is not just an ethical matter, it's simply bad business practice. Plenty of business will do shady shit to do well, but if killing your patrons is part of your business plan, then you wont last long at all. Certainly not when youre just a small business and dont have the resources to hide it all or PR your way out of it. You would never last long enough to become a corporation if you kill your customers.

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>>131068944
TFW they still server you tainted alcohol even with regulations out the ass... http://archive.is/CBWYY

>>131071212
Then please do explain that despite emense regulations why car companies continually have massive recalls and food and drug industries have massive recalls despite the fuck ton of regulation. Doesn't seemed solved to me and they still find ways to skimp

>>131068944
Militant commie walks into a grocery store. All the shelves are empty. Half fish half nigger butcher sneaks up behind him as he searches for food, kills him, butchers him and feeds his comrades.

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>>131075568
>statists are cuckolds guys!

>>131075673
>implying you can link food poisoning/cancer/liver issues to a specific brand of alcohol/bar

It would be impossible in a society without regulations

>>131075641
I'm sure your gun will protect you against a large gang of raiders who intend on stealing everything you have.

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>>131075491
>The NAP is unenforceable.

Rights deserve protection. They're not protected on their own.

>>131068944
>Carolyn McCarthy, Dianne Feinstein, and Chuck Schumer walk into a school and get shot because there are no regulations
Oops

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Hey Libertarians, if the free market yields the best products and best efficiency, then why have you guys never won the Presidency? Isn't universal suffrage equivalent to a free market?

>>131073893
people will be dying while "considering" these things.
and again, companies can easily lie to you, and in the end you'll die not knowing what really did you in.

a yoghurt (or whatever the fuck) you've been eating for every day in your life can turn out to contain ingredients that give you cancer, and at that point it's already way too late for you, as well as millions of other people that consumed the same product.

>>131074085
>Cigarette smokers and alcoholics made their choice.
you can only make a choice if you know that it is harmful.
if some new additive cuts costs, you're telling me it'll be fine after people die, and then we can SELF REGULATE by not buying it instead of just REGULATING it and enjoy buying food knowing that it won't fucking kill you?

>>131074085
>I love how leftists pretend no one dies with regulations in place.
tell me you mastermind: if people die with regulations, will MORE or LESS people die without regulations?

>>131068944
I bet this guy is the same person who would go to Mexico and drink shitty water they serve instead of bottle water because he's checking his white privilege.

>>131075808
>massive recalls
Recalls are madated by regulations you fucktard.

>>131073730
In the Special Economic Zones (SEZs) in China they pretty much do have a free market.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_economic_zones_of_China

>>131075641
>it's the autistic brasilian lolbertarian

You have your ancap paradise already, it's called favelas

>>131075627
>Nice strawman
It's not a fucking strawman you idiot. I was referring to the post where the poster thought just that. Geezus fuck. People wonder why communism fails. Look at the replies from the people who glorify it.

Barack Obama, Noam Chomsky and George Soros walk in to a bar in Flint, Michigan. They drink the water and die because government is inept.

>>131076012
That's my point. How are you going to protect them? The strong will always overtake the weak and sometimes the strong don't give a shit about your rights.

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>>131073422
The NAP isn't a law, you can't break it. It's just a description of how individuals will act in a stateless nation

Yes people can easily break moral and ethical boundaries, that's why people need guns and good friends

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>>131075719
Private policy and private security and guess what? Private army.

>>131076266
>The NAP isn't a law, It's just a description of how individuals will act in a stateless nation

Is it possible to be more deluded than this?

>>131068944
But the government was the group tainting alcohol during prohibition.

>>131071272
>Knowingly buying poison
>Unknowingly buying poison
Big difference here

>>131073772
How about this one? Roads.

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>>131068944
Well I would probably drink somewhere else...

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>>131070077
Depends on who they killed.

>>131068944
That would violate the NAP

checkmate athiests

>>131068944
Karl Marx, Vladmir Lenin and Mao Zedong walk into a bar. They all get worshiped by the mindless patrons at the bar before the trio shut the bar down and execute everyone in there for using up precious grain on alcohol that the government keeps wasting.

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>>131068944
And then the bartender is nuked for violating the NAP. Everything sorts itself out.

>>131076141
Where did the other post said that the "the government is so angelic as to be corruption free, have the ability to make all decisions for you, and prevent all wrong doings?"

This is the definition of strawmen. But i don't expect a lolbertarian to know this

>>131076370
>I don't have the solution to a problem so that must mean nobody can figure it out

>>131068944
these morons rely on boycotts and still don't get it

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>>131076178
>The strong will always overtake the weak

Your presumption that libertarians are incapable of strength is retarded. You're making the NAP out to be something that isn't mere common sense, when it's just how people should treat each other. You know, don't steal, rape, kill, etc. It justifies defensive force in the course of such aggression, so it's not fucking pacifist either. How did strength work out for the Third Reich? It takes more than strength to win the war.

>>131075901
Good luck with your politicians, cuck.

I never saw a big bank or jew corporate finance any anarcho-capitalist project or movement.

>>131068944
But the bartender is responsible for what he does. The situation you describe is anarchy, not libertarianism.

>>131076070
Because nobody wants to admit just how valueless human life is, so libertarians have something of a heartless image

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>>131076332
>he says this like it's a good thing

>>131071804
>governments wants people dead and rule over their undead patrons
silly

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>>131075907
>It would be impossible in a society without regulations

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>>131076134
>socialist government
>ancap paradise

>>131076332
Corporations would just pay the private army more.

I'm pretty sure wlamart can pay more then a group of hillbillies

>>131068944
I kekd

>>131076619
Yeah the alternative is clearly far superior and is working out great

>>131071272
>Booze is as bad as cigarettes
>gov't just lets people consume it anyway
>see Prohibition as to why that just makes things worse
The only way to stop people from smoking is to inflict punishment on them worse than the punishment caused by smoking.

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>>131076401
>not patronizing a bar that killed Paul Ryan

It's like you don't even know who the real enemy is.

>rely on regulations
>regulations say siding is fine
>building burns down
>siding still ok via outdated regulations
>die because you relied on regulations

>>131076100
They're recalled because of lawsuits you fucking idiot. If there were no regulations there would still be rule of law. Modern day communists everyone.

>>131076619
Yes, it's a good thing.

A bad thing is a state police, state security, state guns law, state army, state for everything...

>>131070077
But it's not libertarianism, it's anarchy - it's a situation where the bartender does it without any consequences.

>>131072042
You can thank king nigger for those 28 hr work weeks

>>131076529
>Your presumption that libertarians are incapable of strength is retarded.
That's not what I said. My point has gone over your head. The point I was making was that you're not always going to be on the winning side and if a stronger force comes around that wants to establish some sort of government you can't always stop it.
>You're making the NAP out to be something that isn't mere common sense, when it's just how people should treat each other.
Not everyone has common sense.
You know, don't steal, rape, kill, etc. It justifies defensive force in the course of such aggression, so it's not fucking pacifist either. >How did strength work out for the Third Reich?
Apparently not very well because they weren't the stronger of the two forces considering the outcome.
>It takes more than strength to win the war.
No shit.

as always, people who cling to red tape are mentally deficient and ill. best to let the weak die off.

>>131076134
Favelas are created by the state and maintained by the state.

You fuck cuck should be from the public sector.

>>131076529
True, but a commonsense reading of history also shows that there is no way to prevent murder, rape, and theft (especially on a mass scale via warfare) without a strong state.

>>131076529
>>131076858
Formatted my post improperly. I hope you get what I was saying there.

>>131076798
No, u are wrong.
You say that without any evidence.

>>131076798
where does the tweet say that

>>131076668
There is no government inside favelas. They have their own schools, they have their own electricity supply, they have their own "police", they have their own businesses

Favelas, alongside Somalian warlords, are 2 of the most ancaps societies in this world

>>131076937
don't forget RACISM and MISOGYNY

>>131076858
>you're not always going to be on the winning side and if a stronger force comes around that wants to establish some sort of government you can't always stop it.
thats not a point, thats a doomsday prophecy

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This is Kowloon city. A city in China where there literally was 0 government

>>131076687
Walmart receive state subsidies
Every corporation receive.

You have 0 knowledge about anything.

If what you say, gonna happen. The corporate now gonna finance the ancap movement, and this not happen.

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>>131077118
More kowloon

>>131068944
Why would rand and all them go to a bar that has a reputation of killing people?

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>>131077118
This is a concentration camp in North Korea. A country where there literally was 100% government.

>>131070418
hey remember that time, when the regulators deliberately poisoned the booze in order to punish bootleggers ?? great folk them regulators

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2010/02/the_chemists_war.html

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>>131077192
Open plumbing and high voltage electrical wires were hanging everywhere without any plan. The buildings were built so close together people on the street level walked through these little tunnels to get around

>>131076937
>True, but a commonsense reading of history also shows that there is no way to prevent murder, rape, and theft (especially on a mass scale via warfare) without a strong state.
>literally brings up an example of when the state creates mass scale murder, rape, and theft (warfare)
There is no way to entirely prevent murder, or rape, or theft no matter what. Creating a strong state just changes the people doing the murder, rape, and theft and increases the amount because it is seen as "moral". See the USSR, see North Korea, see Communist China, see Nazi Germany, see Authoritarian Feudal States, see Tsarist Russia, etc.

>>131076907
>Favelas are controlled by the state
>The state has to deploy the army just to attempt to establish some sort of control

Really makes me think

>>131076749
>ancap
>rule of law

Good luck with that, I'm sure crimes will be investigated when there is no financial incentive to do so, kek

>>131071781
>yfw replaced by robot

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>>131077314
30,000 people lived here (since been disbanded)

>>131068944
Remember, it's always projection.

>>131077146
>Walmart receive state subsidies
In what way does this change what i said?

>If what you say, gonna happen. The corporate now gonna finance the ancap movement, and this not happen.

Write Portuguese, since it's now clear you can't write english