Poland is dying

>>131066618

Nice propaganda. Sage.

>>131066618
Ridiculous amount of bait on /pol/ lately. Plus this....

"According to official counts, a disproportionate number of these migrants are young, unmarried, unaccompanied males. In fact, the sex ratios among migrants are so one-sided — we’re talking worse than those in China, in some cases — that they could radically change the gender balance in European countries in certain age cohorts."

http://www.politico.eu/article/europes-man-problem/

>>131066618
We still have several decades of stable future ahead of us to find a solution.

Some countries on the other hand, have a much more pesimistic view on the nearest future.

>>131066618
If the EU is worried about population decline they should accept the women, not the men, since it is women who have babies. Just sending men doesn't help and just lays the ground work for genocide once non-cucked euro males catch them when no one is looking.

>>131066618
Russian fertility rates grow fast while eastern europe drops them and depopulates even more due to cityzens migrating into western europe.

If EE does not import immigrants it will be peacefully taken by Russia in 30-40 years.

Choose your fate, comrades.

Switzerland 0.83% .. best economy. Gtfo you lefty reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>131066618
We may be dying but you are being replaced

>>131066618
>Sandnigger migrants
>better economy

Pick one

>>131067018
>several decades
You're deluding yourself. You'll be at your retirement age in several decades and few young people will be there to pay for your pension. We need a baby boom now, otherwise it's get Islam'd or perish

>>131066618
One man plus one woman. Not enough babies so send in three more men. This is just science denial.

They can always have an option to flood Poland with Ukrainians. Don't worry about Poland. But Ukraine is in self exterminating mode - this makes me sad - but what can I do?

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>>131066618
population wasn't meant to expand forever, its supposed to find golden middle between livings like ants in china and being barely populated and being replaced by browns in 10-20 years like sweden

>>131066618
You are forgeting that most of youths are working atm at other EU countries, and they are starting families there. They can come back any time when they get wealthy already becouse Poles don't assimilate that easily. The main problem in PL is that noone is lowering taxes yet,

Just a couple years ago they were saying we were too overpopulated, now its the opposite. Its almost nearly the level of bullshit as global warming/cooling

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>>131066618
>0.03%

The country where nothing ever happens

>>131066618
why are Albanians breeding machines?
Is it Islam?

>>131067510
the EU wants working-age men. Babies are just the time-consuming means to get such. Immigration is like an sachete of instant taxpayers, or at least that's what the EU believes

>>131066618
>kill
>your
>self
S - A - G - E

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>>131066618
Poland needs 200,000 immigrants per year. It's the only way to raise your birth rates

>>131066618
>1,03%

WEW
E
W

>>131066618
Has Israel brought any refugee?

>>131066618
how is this a bad thing? we get rid of our scum and they all go bother someone else, like the swiss

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>>131067451

dont be a cuck you stupid fucking pole

the econ arguments are BULLSHIT. you know who take cares of old white people? communities of young white people. you know who will rape your children and murder you and your sons? the people you want to invite in.

my country is FUCKED because of all these shit people. if we only took in poles and other euro people? we would be much less fucked. if we took in no-one ever, today the UK would be a much better place to live.

dont be a cuck faggot. retain your people and your culture. you are probably a shill. most pole i know are based and will be taking souls and lighting fires alongside the few based bongs there still are

praise fucking kek

>>131067451
400k+ babies forecasted to be born in 2017, because of the '500+' social program,largest number since 2010 and we are dying? k

>>131067321
It seems the albanians are pumping all that sweet swiss pussy

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>>131067236
M8 your fertility rates are ''stable/growing because of dzhamshuts !

>>131066618
Immigrants do not help the (((economy))) they prop it up while stagnating wages and creating bubbles which can be devastating if left be. Also if there population is declining that means more resources per person. Also aren't the nation states of Europe supposed to be ethnic states of sorts, why do you want or need immigrants can't you just sustain yourselves? Again Why do they need migrants anyway any growth at all with a declining population is a success.migrants in Europe don't work either so you'd be replacing yourselves with a caliph.

>>131068745
nah, latviabro, it was only in the late 2000s

Now the 100% ethnically russian regions are growing fertility while national republics (except for mongol ones) have their time to drop the wave.

>https://pp.userapi.com/c604719/v604719550/3fd53/pdhvuyDORlo.jpg

Check this link, I think you know some russian. If you don't - you should consider learning it as soon as possible.

Massive migration

Nothing new

Sage

>>131068400
there are non albanians in switzerland ?

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>>131066618
I wonder who is behind this post

>>131066618
If you would have done your research you would know that Poland has an upward trend in in births OP is an Fag

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>>131066618
>fagchart.net

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>>131069233
So what sparked the ''comeback'' stabilization ? Part of the, bjot zna4it ljubit reintroduction ?

>>131069807
Putin himself, our supreme leader raised the fertility.

>>131067930
Africa needs to be invaded and all tribes from the southern tip of gibraltar to eastern South Africa needed to be brutally murdered to stop the population boom

>>131067551
Ukraine is fake country, there's nothing to be sad about.

Although I would prefer them to stay in their 'country'. Immigration is beneficial in the short-term but I'm worried about their lower quality - areas where Ukrainians were forcibly resettled after WW2 have much higher crime rates and are overall much more corrupt. There's also a risk of local pro-UPA movements.

Hopefully Germany will open their labor market to them soon.

Genetically Ukrainians are the worst white people on Earth. Ukrainian ancestry are Cossacks, ie. criminals and bums who ran away from Poland and Russia + Turks of similar provenance. That's not an exaggeration. For centuries Ukraine (a word made from old Slavic 'borderlands' of both Russia and Poland) was a lawless area eternally under war and chaos.

Not surprisingly after 26 years of independence they have lower (nominal) GDP per capita than even Nigeria.

>>131066618
>population drops
>everyone is still polish
>keep your language, culture, etc intact
oh nooo that sucks

>>131067451
boo hoo, you might have to live in a slightly less plush retirement home. Fuck you cuck. People have survived in shacks for centuries. They didn't have retirement pensions.

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>>131066618
>mfw -0.58% anually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUFsTNDkoF4

Poland has 2 million Ukrainians you fucking moron
they accepted a shitlot of immigrants from Ukraine

God I hate /pol/ sometimes so much ffs

>>131069937
He fucked all Russian women?

>now its dying

where have you been for the last 400 years

>>131070050
But if there aren't more unskilled laborers to work for the Jewish mega corporations, how will the gdp increase? Don't you want your country to have big numbers on paper, goy?

>>131070446
No, his yearly interviews fill cityzens with pride for their motherland and feeling of duty which they fullfill in the bedroom.

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>>131067551
You shouldn't do anything. Ukraine chose its fate - to become part of New Jerusalem.

>>131070405
Velik broj zbog iseljavanja, ako uzmeš sve u obzir još smo i a-ok

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>>131066618
>>131070075

>>131070075

>>131070075

any polish person worth his salt emigrates to a country that pays a decent wage.

>>131071000
So what your saying is the emir of Europa should include Poland too?

>>131067451
Oh no, less pension money? Better sell out your thousand year old civilization so that you can afford a slightly nicer retirement home!

>>131066618
>/pol/s favourite country
topkek

>>131071121
Hey future epicenter of emir of Europa, my dick feels lonely and I don't want to have sex with my wife I was wondering if you could help out with yours? I'm black btw

>>131071121
And by the way how are your stagnate wages, declining standards of living, declining middle class,increasing income inequality, a native birth rate declining even further,and crime boom going, I'm just curious?

>>131071121
And don't forget increasing housing prices but oh no goyim you in the US don't have free healthcare.

>>131071488
Lel I think you're actually talking about Murrica

>>131071835
Yea we have that problem too and guess why?

>>131066618
> Poland
> Somebody's favourite country
you guys are so weird sometimes
love you for it but seriously

>>131071835
But our white birth rate is rising from 1.9 while yours is decreasing from 1.4 so kys.

>>131070720
Give back Cetatea Albă and Cernăuți reeee.

>>131071835
And no crime boom.

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It's not that bad. Have a fucked up graph that illustrates this. The blue one is unemployment but it's in reverse so when the graph is rising the unemployment is falling. The green one are childbirths it's not in reverse so when the graph is rising the childbirths are rising. Our demography got ruined by a shitty ex-government and now when the current government is actually supporting families and the economy is improving, and unemployment is falling we can expect a great increase in childbirths.

>>131072105
"The murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 47 years." - Donald Donny Trump

>>131067451
Cheer up faggot. There is over 30mil of us, we have white Ukrainins flowing here and soon we will have more white western europeans running from sandniggers

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>>131072035

>>131066618
>immigration helps the economy and population

Let's agree on that, on the condition that the immigrants are all white Western Europeans?

Let's be honest here and skip all the leftist kike propaganda: shitskins and niggers ruin every country they lay their filthy subhuman hands on. PERIOD.

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>>131066618
How to get Polish GF?

>>131066685
THIS

>>131072342
Guess what demographic is mostly responsible?

>>131073500
The impoverished one

>>131073582
Yea your exaggerating and the poorest part of the country is the whitest and is expirencing an opiate epidemic and guess what? Still no crime cause it's niggers who aren't "impoverished."

>>131072986
They can't keep getting away with this.

>>131071076
This is literally what the baby boomers did to the west.

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>>131066911
>Ridiculous amount of bait on /pol/ lately.
Cia is here to prepare to their minds against jews

>>131066618

haha no

>>131068400
SHHHHHHH.

>>131066618
test

Portugal is also dying and we are being replaced by non-europeans, cause our political 'elite" is multiculturalist to the bone. What a magnificent future we will have...

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>>131066618
>imblyign CSOK 2 won't get kicked in after 2018, where all people must produce an offspring or get shot

>>131066618

islam is really taking over europe. ahahaha

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>>131066618
True

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>>131078427

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>>131066618
>this faggot thinks population growth is a good thing

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>>131066618
>Natural population fluctuations are bad.
>Behavioral sink is what we should strive for.
Keep breeding like ants goy, someone needs to power the economy, so we can suck off the leaks.

>>131080358
Japan is overpopulated. Not Poland. Poland is getting older at an alarming rate and the population is in decline.

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>>131066618
>helps the economy and population
The economy and population don't need to be helped. The world is overpopulated, and the industrial system leads to suffering on a vast scale. Read Industrial Society And Its Future.

>>131067018
You already know the solution.

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>>131080950
Man I love flaglarping.

Latvia. The worst. Fact.

>>131066618
As long as their borders are secure it doesn't matter how few people they have. There will still be just as few niggers.

>>131073404
1. Come to Poland
2. Don't be Polish
3. Have fun

>>131066618
The others are dying too. It's just the refugees that are coming in that makes it seem green.

>>131081961
Also, recent trends are not set in stone. Until, say, 2050 so fucking much can happen, it is not even funny. As long as your ethnic nation still exists in culture and biology, population growth can always be fixed, even in one generation.

The threat is getting other peoples inside your territory who try to take it over with the help of democracy and the welfare state.
Only if there are minorities in your country or if you have neighbours that want your land and genocide you a shrinking population is a threat to survival.

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>>131080950
Just face it, EUfag. Population density, once it passes a certain very low threshold, adversely affects quality of life. And this inconvenient truth contradicts your perverse endgame (economic growth at all costs). If Poland had the same population density as Australia I might be inclined to agree with you, but you're simply way, way off.

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>>131073786
WE

>>131067018
If western europe falls, poland will not have any gibs, so poland will collapse. poles are subhuman leeches

Latvia is literally dying.

>>131069992
ITT: Russian poverty thread.

Nobody but Russia gives a shit about Ukraine enough to pretend to be Polish and post that much about it.

>>131082652
Not the point.
It's about white the white and non white population in Europe. Poland is supposed to be the last "chance" for white Europeans along with Eastern Europe but nobody breeds anymore lol, the only one who breeds are in Western Europe with large non-white majorities.

Poland is getting old & is declining like many other Eastern European white homogeneous countries in Europe.

>>131083739
From my experience on /pol/, I see more butthurt from Poles than even Russians.
>MUH Volyn
>MUH Bandera
>MUH UPA
>MUH Lwów

>>131066618

I think it might have something to do with communism for half a century actually

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>>131066618
>mfw Croats dying out

>>131084364
Are Muslims immune to communism?

At least it'll die white. I'd rather my country die white than live on as a shitskin haven.

>>131084364
During communism we had stable high fertility rate. Since the end of USSR it dropped to incredibly low numbers and started recovering only recently.

>>131073786
>>131072035
Will you fucking gypsies fuck off already? Not all land in Europe is yours.

>>131080680
Quality furry merchant.
>>131084321
Well, we had a solid chunk of Ukraine for quite long time, not to mention we never did anything like Holodomor.
>>131084816
It's a thing in post-eastern bloc countries that birthrates dropped after cold war.

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>>131085253
Why do you guys love communism so much? Seriously.

>>131072464
>30 million

There are 40 million people in Poland including the Ukrainians

>>131085510
Russians are very conservative.

>>131067770
Yes

>>131084299
Polish population decline is a result of Poles moving westwards, retard.

>>131085621
But graphs show that your people miss the USSR?

>>131066618
What the fuck is happening in Latvia?

>>131085767
Exactly. We are very conservative.

>>131085621
You mean stupid. No offence, but anybody who thinks communism was better than was is now is gravely mistaken, sometimes by nostalgia, sometimes by having fit in the system so much they long for times where they could receive many bribes. It's time for them to let go of that horrible period.

>>131084364
If the USSR hadn't started encouraging women to get abortions in the 1960s there would be more than 400 million people in Russia today.

>>131084816
Uzbekistan is still communist. Their population grew from 20 million in 1990 to 30 million in 2010. Now their government is sterilizing women to decrease population growth.

>>131085621
>>131085253
Russian birthrates are fine, they're comparable to those of niggers in the USA. The reason why Russia's growth rate sucks is because their death rates are high. Stop drinking yourselves to death and your population will be growing by a good amount each year.

>>131085881
Oh yeah, i forgot, it's the other way around in almost every other country.

>>131084299
>population growth slightly below replacement
>nobody breeds anymore lol

Yea, right. Some of the factors contributing to the low fertility in industrialised nations include female emancipation through entering the workforce and the use of contraception and abortion. As a traditionalist I oppose most of these things. In addition to that, there's this hedonistic trance that has the whole of the West in its sway. We need to educate the younger generations to feel a sense of responsibility towards their ancestors and towards their descendants, instead of raising generations of kids whose highest idea of life is travelling far, creating envious Instagram posts and trying lots of exotic food YOLO. We need to stamp out the radical individualism that is eating away at the fabric of our society like gangrene.
But it's not as if people will simply cease reproducing if we don't fulfil all of these requirements. Again, the population decline in Europe is minor, and can be counter-balanced with policies like those I have outlined above. The entire European continent (with the exception perhaps of Scandinavia) is over-populated AND WILL BENEFIT FROM A REDUCTION. It is simply a myth, a falsehood to claim that population decline will result in economic catastrophe or collapse. The age of technology we live in today is literally handing us on a silver platter the opportunity to create and perpetuate a functioning and prosperous society WITHOUT the need for a massive workforce.

>>131085949
>t. EU

Russians miss communism more than Poles because they didn't have the EU to unfuck their broken economy after the end of communism.

>>131085995
But aren't the High birthrates due to the Chechens and other muslims?

>>131086069
Slow growth in Poland is a combination of young Poles moving to the West (UK has as many as 1 million Poles) and those young Poles having their kids in the UK and the West instead of Poland.

>>131066618
>latvia
why bros?

>>131066618
So according to this fucken chart Somalia is top tier isn't it?

>>131086075
>polish flag
>but still >t. EU
Bruh. You won't find many more opposed to EU than me.

>>131085995
>Stop drinking yourselves to death

Do you know at least anything about life in Russia?

>>131085621
Because:
WE WUZ TSAR

Pathetic. Truly, the niggers of Asia.

>>131085392
>It's a thing in post-eastern bloc countries that birthrates dropped after cold war.
Central Asia, Azerbaijan and RF muslim republics were under communism even longer than Eastern Block. But their birthrates are through the roof.
>Well, we had a solid chunk of Ukraine for quite long time, not to mention we never did anything like Holodomor.
You occupied solid chunk of Ukraine for quite long time. And you oppressed us and tried to eliminate us a nation altogether, same as ruskies.
Holodomor was done by kikes, good job not falling to their level.

>>131086338
The internet, for years, has laughed at the photographic and video evidence of what a shit country you guys have.

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This thread is full of kikes

>>131086502
Muzzies just breed like rats.

>>131066618
>1 post by this ID
>People are dying out
>Let's help them by replacing them
OK.

>>131086177
The Caucasian Muslims are a tiny portion of Russia's overall population. If you look at Tatarstan and the Tatar Muslims it becomes clear that high fertility among Muslims is largely restricted to the Caucasian Muslims.

Chechnya only has 1% of Russia's population and 1.5% of Russia's births in 2016. They are growing faster than the general population among the Caucasian Muslims, but that's like saying that Hasidic Jews in America are growing really fast.

>>131086502
Dude, don't pay attention to these plebs.
Go build Ukraine and make your country strong.
These places are full of Russian shills in a psychological warfare campaign to make random teenagers hate your country, and every other country Russia's at war with; were you around when they made anti-Turk memes, and then abruptly stopped when Russia became friends with Turkey again?

>>131086428
Tzar was a weak man, a weak man can not be in rule of Russia. He was the shame of our country, so no value was lost.

>>131086594
>This thread is full of kikes
It's a slide thread.

>>131086338
>gets instantly butthurt

Explain why male life expectancy in Russia is nigger tier then. If your death rate was 400,000 fewer a year you'd have a growth of 4 million a decade by births alone. Your country is currently made of suck because of your high death rates.

>>131086315
Irrelevant. European money enabled Poland to rebound more quickly than Russia after the fall of communism.

>>131086742
You only like the idea of Russia because you think it can make you personally wealthy.
Fun fact: you're fucked unless you move to a country where the rich take care of their population. What was it that Medvedev said not too long ago? Something like "We don't have any money, but you stay strong."

>>131086502
>You occupied solid chunk of Ukraine for quite long time.
In the same sense as Americans occupied North America? It still amuses me Ukrainians think Poles were worse than Russians.
If that's any consolation to you I think it was a mistake that we didn't add -ukrainian to our Commonwealth.

Isn't Warsaw and Poland in general getting better and better economically? And not even factoring automation in the future, low skill MENA immigrants take in more tax money through social services than they pay into the system everywhere they go.

>>131086695
The caucasians and chechens aren't the only muzzies, i believe some ethnic russians are muslims as well.

>>131066618
I predict a huge grow in East Europe as soon as the exodus of the western Europeans begins.

>>131086977
I'm a history-buff, and the Poles seriously fucked over the Ruthenian population, later known as "Ukrainians". Like, you took the best of their people and Polonized them, granting them Polish szlachta status and absorbed them into your ethnicity, keeping the rest of them dirt-poor.
It's not exactly slavery, but it was oppression enough for them to gtfo and join Imperial Russia in 1654.

>>131086986
It is, but it's still not as good as it could be, thanks to post-communist, but still socialist government.

>>131086977
>It still amuses me Ukrainians think Poles were worse than Russians.
I don't think you were worse. Just not much better.

>>131086863
>>131086863
I am not butthurt, you just do not understand that the reasons for high mortality are objective and quite difficult to be changed. Not even USSR got it done, and they knew how things should be done.

>>131086986
They're set to have great economic growth. Poland objectively could grow strong.

>>131087308
Russians are why Russians have a high mortality rate.
You people need to get your shit together.

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>>131087245
daily reminder that khmelnitsky did nothing wrong.

>>131087439
Stop answering me you retarded hohol faggot

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>>131087245
>granting someone a noble status and offering them the best possible opportunities
>fucking over
top kek, reminds me of niggers in america who complain they were stolen from dirt muds and brought to one of the best countries on earth

>>131087581
I'm Austrian, you degenerate Ruski.

>>131087308
>Not even USSR got it done, and they knew how things should be done.
USSR made Russians the way they are right now.
Not even the Russian Empire was that bad.

>>131087664
*dirt huts

>>131087727
Why do you have a commie flag?

>>131087664
>Yeah, we oppressed them, but hey, a tiny percent of their population was given no option but to abandon their identity and adopt a Polish one...

Such virtue.

>>131087727
>>131087728
Hohol raid, nothing special here

>>131087285
>I don't think you were worse. Just not much better.
Well, that's the first step to the friendship. Not necessarily we'll go in that direction, though.
But in the meantime. Poles have fucked up and not only our own (Lithuanians and Ukrainians too) and Ukraine has goddamn fine meadows. Truce?

>>131087777
Because I'm a Marxist, but I understand nationalism that works in self-defence against neighbouring imperialism.

Nice quads, btw.

>>131087664
Yes, you fucked us over. Granting some small part of people privileges to abandon their origins, while majority were literally slaves.
We rebelled constantly for a reason, not just because we are a bunch of monkeys.

>>131087895
1. Not Ukrainian.
2. The Russian shills are so weak, that it takes one Austrian and one possible Ukrainian (don't know who he is behind his flair) to derail the threads they're paid to make.

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>>131087245
polonization was peaceful and voluntarily process, it wasn't enforced
people like pic related loved to larp as polish nobleman and were very keen on being brutal to cossacks, kinda ironic seeing as the chmielnicki who was polish in first place is considered hero in ukraine
i get why some hohols hate those times (i think adding ruthenia as third partner would make sense) but saying that poles were trying to root their culture is retarded, even kangz like Sobieski loved ukrainian music and hired their musicians

>>131088130
?

I neither made this thread nor am I paid to post here.

>>131088025
Pro-tip: if you're a human being, you are, in every sense of the definition, a hairless, bipedal primate, so we're all "a bunch of monkeys".

>>131066618
Estonia is my fav cointry . Little Eesti best eesti

>>131066685
>whatever it is I disagree with is propaganda

>>131088025
>while majority were literally slaves.
it was called peasantry and literally everybody did it towards everybody.

>>131088262
Why are you on an American chan, instead of your dvach or wherever you slavshits hang out these days?

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>>131087728
Why do Ruskies hate nationalism nowadays

>>131088371
Or, or, you could acknowledge it was shit, and stop taking personal responsibility for what your Kangz did to the Ruthenian population, and express solidarity.

>>131066618
>eastern europe survives but with a smaller population
>western and northern europe become muslim breeding grounds
hmmm

>>131087868
>Yeah, we oppressed them
Yeah, we didn't. It actually shows how tolerant poles were if any retard from Rus could become a somebody.
>tiny percent of their population
What, did you expect the polish crown was going to do exactly what? Free the peasants? Grant every one of them equal rights? In the era of fucking feudalism? Get the fuck out of here, history-buff my ass.
>their identity
No such thing. A peasant was a peasant, he had no identity, no matter if he lived in Ukraine or Poland. That's how class society works.

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>>131066618
>implying they can't get into "de-growth" while raising local standards of living
>implying they can't into natalist policies
>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-09/poland-s-taking-a-stand-against-europe-s-demographic-decline
>mfw even Bloomberg le jew says I'm right

>>131088396
>slavshits

Rude.

Also dvach is shit, they discuss nothing but how bad Putin is and how Hitler/USA/Israel/Ukraine/Chechnya should annex Russia and kill all Russians

>>131088493
You mean the country with the world's largest concentration of neo-Nazis?

>>131087029
Your beliefs are wrong

>>131088610
So now you're here to spread the message of your Glorious Dear Leader™?

>>131088369
Pretty much every russianposter herr

>>131088543
Where did I say it wasn't shit? It's just the fact that we weren't better or worse than others. It was just a custom at the time and suggesting it was bad isn't logical because they didn't do that because they didn't like Ukrainians or anything. They did it because that's what they did with peasants, be they polish, lithuanian or ukrainian.
And to make sure - yes, I know it was almost literal slavery.

>>131087308
>not drinking yourselves to death is quite difficult to change

>>131088719
*Supreme Leader and Father of the Nations

>>131088596
In other words, you feel that Ukrainians should be grateful for Polish imperial oppression?

>>131086594
This. All these division threads are created by kikes using proxies.

ayy check my 6

>>131070614
>>131070050
The problem is that Western Europe has a lot of shitskins. A declining Poland is only not a bad thing in a situation where Fortress Europe exists to keep out Africans. As countries like Germany accept large numbers of Turks the thread of Poland being dragged into a Turkish uprising against Germany increases.

>>131066618
Because you retards only read cherry picked data with useless parameeters.

Oure system will benefit the induviduals that want to contribute. Free of charge.

When people comprehend that and are not allowed to form their own little clusterfucks of babie producers who hide their children and brainwash them into whatever norms the country of origing accepted.

Look at the fucking map people.

We are the country you wished you where born in. People are dying with oure nation as their destination.

Most of you are just fucking pissed that they want free shit from you ( aka expensive lodging while they try to enter scandinavia).

Ofcourse their insane religion comes with the unregulated bussloads that end in southern europe.

We take the finest in the lot.

>>131088746
Then let's just agree that imperialism is garbage.
Given our understanding that Ukraine was oppressed by two empires, it makes sense for them to have a certain "developmental delay" in their internal ability to cooperate, explaining their current corruption/oligarchy scenario.
Like the Kurds, I admire them and any other nation who remained organic and Endured imperialist pressure.

>>131088564
See >>131089085

>>131088614
Their neo nazi groups are overshadowed by the population who, for some reason, want another USSR again.

>>131066618

Poland is readying for automation.

>>131088899
Ukrainians should not give a shit, since they barely have anything in common with ruthenians from the past. They should also stop inventing stories about the supposed polish opression, because it's pathetic and shows lack of understanding of history.

>>131088839
If you live in a city where there is little to no light, where every winter the temperature hits -40 and below, where winter lasts fucking forever, when the sea is far as fuck and the country is still in ruins after the hell of 90s, it is hard not to start drinking.

And if you start it is hard to stop. One day you freeze to death sleeping on a bus stop or die in a drunken fight with your neighbour over philosophical questions.

>>131089110
>We are the country you wished you where born in.

lolwut?

Thx for the Orkneys and Shetland, fgts.

>>131066618
fake news

>>131089148
Dude, the USSR was like inverse Strasserism.
The NazBols have a massive boner for Stalinism because the country under Stalin was very, very Fascist.
The entire state was a private corporation owned by him and his closest ilk.
There were class differences, idealism and romanticism in art (the biggest give-away of the de facto ideology of any country), and a mythical promise of a glorious future (which is a tenet that unites all Fascisms— called Palingenetic Ultranationalism).

third worlder retarded subhuman 80 iq immigrants won't fix any country's retirement pensions problem, they will only make it worse.

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>>131066618
EVERYTHING WAS FUCKING FINE BEFORE YOU FUCKING LET THEM ALL IN YOU JACKASS!

>>131089420
>the state owned everything
>but it was a private corporation
>not muh marxism

Literally no one cares either way

>>131089195
I'm willing to bet that the only people who care about the "wrongs of history" are those who are below middle-class standards of whatever qualifies in that country to be middle-class. Few people sparsely and sporadically are loudmouthed about how "their" country was wronged.
That said, the Poles and Ukrainians, if you guys wanna be friends, must treat each other on the merit of one's individual character, not as some vague and vulgar collective mass.
Ironically, I advise you to learn to 'discriminate'.

>>131089420
Fucking retard, who even told you that you are a marxist?

>>131089726
The state owned everything, but it wasn't in return owned by the citizens. It was instead owned by Stalin and the Nomenklatura.

>>131089784
What a rebuttal. This is partially why you're poor and angry.

>>131066618
>Countries are an area of land with a finite amount of people and resources in them
>The less people, the more resources each person will have, increasing quality of life
>This is somehow bad, and somehow worse than flooding the country with fuck headed shitskins that ruin everything while complaining

I'll give you 3/10 for the bait, just because you made me reply

>>131066618
Immigration is harming Poland because the all keep coming to England

>>131089195
Maybe not pathetic... Actually it's pathetic, it's nigger level victimisation. Jesus fukken Christ, I wish Ukrainians stopped being mad at Poland (thanks commies for anti-polish propaganda) and we could try into Intermarium again or some shit.
>>131089142
It's sort of like Africa or 1920's Poland - no previous hierarchy to imitate or rebuild and everything has to be done from scratch. We spent back then 15 or more years without significant progress.
I don't know if imperialism is garbage, but oppressing people because muh untermench is.
>>131089747
Eh, I'm a slow writer. What did you mean by "discriminate"? You mean "be sane person and judge others by their worth, not ethnics, religion and the like"?

>>131066618
>immigration helps the economy and population
unemployed rapey criminals help what exactly?

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>>131088596
>No such thing. A peasant was a peasant, he had no identity, no matter if he lived in Ukraine or Poland. That's how class society works.
That's bullshit and you know it. We had an identity, which you even had to acknowledge to save your Commonwealth. But it was too late.
Maybe if you did it earlier, things would work out much better for all of us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Lithuanian%E2%80%93Ruthenian_Commonwealth

>>131090152
Also, you shouldn't have let the kikes into the Commonwealth.

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>>131089280
Who would want their children to grow up in the uk 2017?

If they could litteraly just send and application and wait. Denied? Well try another country down the list.
>Orkneys and Shetland, fgts.

orkney island and the Shetlands is a worthless piece of rocky land with gibberish speaking locals. Ive acctuly been there. Its brittish for anyone who give a flying fuck what that cold windy rock is.

>>131067451
>We need a baby boom now
start fucking and having kids, tell ur friends to have kids, and help any parents or couples with children who needs it. Whites are uncertain about the future so they dont breed, WE ALL need to help encourage them.

>>131090044
>What did you mean by "discriminate"? You mean "be sane person and judge others by their worth, not ethnics, religion and the like"?

Absolutely, and I don't mean this in some stupid hippie/SJW way.
Uneducated people of any ethnicity can fuck right off, if they're abrasive, and I'm sure everyone can agree on that.

>>131066618
Turns out immigration while the population is shrinking is a fucking calculated genocide by the ones supporting it

>>131090210
No, we should have polonized everybody, preferably by force, like the Prussians did. Maybe there wouldn't be so many retards running around screaming about muh polish oppresion right now. Or at the least they would have a legitimate reason.

>>131090152
Okay, but you're not in that position now.
All this is, is a discussion of who's responsible for you not being as wealthy as the first world.
Relax. Focus instead on becoming individually wealthy, and teach others in your country the formulas that you've by then used to become wealthy.

>>131090152
>Maybe if you did it earlier, things would work out much better for all of us.
Yes, this is undeniable.
>BUT MUH LIBERUM VETO
Why was our country run by such autists?
>>131090298
I'm a "rational" civic nationalist so I believe that if you're a decent person, you're decent. If you're scum, I want you out of my country or dead. I don't intend to support walking shit. Sadly I can't really do it to my own because that would be political suicide.

>>131090737
Well, as long as you understand that even your own can fall into that category.
That's an important thing to know.
From my travelling days, I can attest it's highly likely that every ethnicity on Earth, more or less, has a similar ratio of good people to bad people.

>dying
>population is lowering a bit

wow it's fucking nothing
Populations get bigger and smaller all the time. You can't have constant growth forever.

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>>131066618
why don't they promote its own people to have more children rather than importing people. if you're importing people especially productive people than it is those countries that lose out the most. I would rather my county be poor and native than be a degenerate powerhouse

>>131066618
I would much rather been poorer and lily white than be slightly more comfy and (((diverse))).

If that's the sacrifice, then there's no question. Give the white man white land.

>>131091045
>Well, as long as you understand that even your own can fall into that category.
We have people who thought that communism was better. Can you go any lower (besides white niggery)?
>>131091442
They are, but West pays more in Euro than Poland in Zlotys, and the exchange ratio is around 4:1, so it wasn't stupid of them.

>>131091682
Let's be real, that shit was not communism. It was Stalinism. It was Red Fascism, the same shit we're seeing in North Korea, Cuba, and every other "Marxist"-Leninist shit-hole.

>>131089142
You know what else is garbageÉ Marxism.

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>>131091837

we aint fucking dieing, where did you get that?

>>131066618
Poland is "dying" compared to rich ass countries like Germany and France, it's alright.