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Germany tells Turkey to back off after criticism of liberal "LGBT, Feminist not wearing hijab" Berlin mosque

>BERLIN -- The German government is strongly rejecting criticism -- from a religious authority overseen by the Turkish government -- of a new liberal mosque in Berlin where all Muslims can pray together.

>The mosque opened a week ago. On Tuesday, Turkey's Presidency of Religious Affairs said the project was "aimed at disrupting Islam's basic sources of information, principles of worship and methodology." It added: "We have no doubt that our faithful brothers will act with wisdom and stay away from all kinds of provocations."

>On Friday, German Foreign Ministry spokesman Martin Schaefer rejected "statements that clearly aim to deny the right of people in Germany to the free exercise of their religion and limit their right to freedom of opinion." He said how and where people worship isn't the state's business.
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>>131029180


Berlin Opens First LGBT-friendly Mosque as 'Feminist' Islam Emerges to Fight Extremism

>A female imam from the United States, Ani Zonneveld, called for prayer as the faithful kneeled behind her in rows, all turned in the direction of Mecca.

>Seyran Ates' vision of a liberal mosque where all Muslims can pray together - women and men, Sunni and Shiite, straight and gay - turned into reality Friday as dozens of people came together in Berlin to inaugurate a new house of prayer.

>“The intention is to give liberal Islam a sacred space,” Ates said. “I feel very discriminated by regular mosques where women have to pray in ugly backrooms.”

>"I couldn't be more euphoric, it's a dream come true," Ates, the 54-year-old daughter of Turkish guest workers in Germany, told The Associated Press this week with a smile.

>"There won't be any hate preaching against democracy here," Ates said. Instead, followers can express doubt about their beliefs and approach their religion with sense and reason instead of blind devotion, she said.

>Elham Manea, the female imam who shared in leading the Friday prayers, said mixed worship is an issue of equality.

>“How and when a woman is asked to pray mirrors her social status within her community,” Manea said. “She is asked to pray separately from men, to cover her hair during prayer ... and to stop praying during the days of her menstruation. ... All these restrictions are imposed on her because they mirror the social conviction that a woman is not fully complete and perfect like a man and [that] she without doubt isn’t equal.”

>“I understand that change is hard, because one is used to doing the same thing for centuries, and it will of course be difficult to change it. But still the time for change is now. ... And we’re calling for it respectfully.”
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moar from RT...


Ladies First !
Norwegian Capital to Boast Taboo - Breaking Feminist Mosque


>While your garden-variety Islam is known for being conservative and holds patriarchal values in high esteem, there is always room for reform. In a planned "feminist" mosque in the Norwegian capital city of Oslo, men and women will be allowed to pray in the same room, with female priests leading the prayer.

>"I want tostart a feminist mosque where women will have asmuch room asmen. Both men and women will be allowed tolead the prayer, and all sexes will be able topray together inthe same room, side byside," initiator Thee Yezen al-Obaide told the newspaper.

>"We must give women the microphone, so they can speak forthemselves," al-Obaide ventured.

>"This mosque should become a place open toanyone who feels that they do not fit intoordinary mosques. Women, men, transgender, gay, heterosexuals— everyone will be welcome," Thee Yezen al-Obaide said.
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>mfw Islam finally gets its enlightment process
>by SJW's and the LGBQT community
>the ironing
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>>131062382
Imagine radical feminism slowly influencing Saudi Arabia. The horror. Those weak ass men they have over there that need their women bagged because they have ZERO self control.

The hell these guys will go through when globalisation starts to seriously affect their patriarchy.

People are watching Europe and proclaim it to be doomed, but goddamn. Radical feminism in Saudi Arabia would be a show I'd pay to watch.
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Do you think they have any self awareness and it's a plan to subvert islam or are they crazy enough to believe islam is turbo-feminist and pro LGBT.
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>>131061541
I hope they kill each other
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>>131063083
at least we can do something about that, pro LGBT people are ruining it for the normal gays
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>>131061672
ITS LITERALLY A WHITE PEOPLE MOSQUE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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On a scale of one to haram this is FIFTY JIHADS
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Its like they are asking to be beheaded then /pol/acks will play the victim hating on us for not accepting their govermant shitty lefty bullshit

Talk some sense into the libtards or they will end up holocausted by us
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>>131061541
>mfw Germany turns everything it touches into a liberal pig pen
>mfw Germany touches Islam
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>>131061541
Bump
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This was predictable
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>>131064539
it is your fault, burger!
you kill a wrong Ideology
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>>131061541
>54 year old daughter of Turkish guest workers

Are they really guests when they are there for the rest of their lives?
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This is excellent.

We will do to Islam what the Jews did to Christianity.

Total subversion, feminisation and destruction of their entire system of belief.

Then boast about how muhammad was a blonde European man. We WUZ profits n shiet.
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>>131064539
Wont happen until they genocide every last muslim who read the quran on the face of earth
Kek niggas like me already memorized it
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>>131065099

Says the EU nu-male.
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>>131065183
Aren't the vast majority of Muslims not even literate in Arabic though? They just memorize verses like spells.
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>>131061541
>Germany
>Turkey
What's the difference at this point?
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Haha, white people can ruin literally anything. It's like a super power. I hope this feminist Mosque takes off, this shit is hilarious.

>Going to Europe was a mistake :(
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>>131062382
They've had this before.
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>>131061541
Isn't this a good thing? Anything that disrupts Islam is a plus in my book. Libs in the US pretend Islam is liberating for women and try to act like the hijab is a symbol of feminism, it's good that Germany is not bending over for Islam.
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>>131061541

G-guys are we going to destroy islam like we did with christianity?
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>>131061541
west is trying to aggressively pacify and modernize islam, it probably won't work but it's still better than turning a blind eye
these mosques need 24/7 protection, muslims tend to attack people they consider heretics and outcasts of islam much more than christians and jews
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>>131066513
The mosque OR the founder of the mosque will be attacked. However Germany will respond to that will be a hint of what the future will bring.

I will advise you not to submit to Islam and I think people will defend this LBTQWTFBBQ!!!111eins Mosque but only time will tell
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>>131066225
>Germany makes Islam for white idiots
>more liberals convert to Islam
>non-converted liberals can point to them as proof Islam is okay
What the Germans are supposed to do is kill the Muslims. That would be good.
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How long until the mosque or followers are attacked?
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>>131067162
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>>131067162
SOON INSHALLAH
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>>131062691
good. it their turn to let their men get feminized and their women allowed to roam free like disgusting unkempt dogs.
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>>131061541
Germany has the reverse midas touch everything they touch turns to muh diversity shit.
mfw they touch islam good show germans, good show
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>>131066944
the fuhrer you adore so much was VERY muslim friendly
nearly 90% of muslim population in the blakans joined various ss divisions and he personally issued a law that included reconstruction of over 300 mosques that were destroyed after the end of ottoman occupation
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>>131063083
>the lgbtp-nudist-feminist train will collide head-on with the islam train, do you pull the lever to stop it?
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>>131061672
>>131061541

>> Mosque
>> Practicly all white people

What the fuck am I seeing? Is this Germany now?
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This is such an extremely bad idea, I have no words...
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>>131061541
I have no doubt that some "faithful brothers" will act in regard to this place.
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>>131061541
So what We have Islam, radical Islam, and now domesticated Islam?
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>>131064539
Germans gonna German.
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>>131067788

muslims will not be a problem if the jew states of america don't bomb their shitholes and make them flood yurop
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>>131067953
why?
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>>131062691
Angrier muslms will just take their place like what isis did to iran
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>>131062691
Feminism will never happen in the ME because the men are not beta pussies like white men.
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>>131063083
They're not subverting Islam, they are subverting the West. The purpose of this mosque is to further strengthen the narrative that Islam is a religion of peace, #notallmuslims, and to shut down racists who say Islam is evil. It is creating a normie friendly mosque especially for attracting white liberals, confirm their beliefs about Islam being progressive, and convert them.
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>>131068229
It's possibly going to incite unrest, this isn't tactical at all..
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>>131067914
Thats gonna be one hell of a strange civil war coming up here in Germany, i tell you that
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>>131061541
Germany needs to shut up and let this mosque run quietly before it gets shot up for fuck sakes.
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>>131068393
vast majority of muslims doesn't really understand their religion and has never read quran
allowing them to be radicalized in saudi sponsored mosques and doing nothing is somehow better than this?
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found some pics on their facebook. Look at the happy muslims!
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>>131061672
This is awesome!!!!
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>>131061672
White are they all light skinned as fuck? Are these asshole liberals larping?
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>>131068223
they won't settle down until they reestablish their ancient caliphate which occupies nearly half of the europe
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>that comment
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>>131062382
>Europe: "FROM HELL'S HEART I STAB AT THEE"
>*shoves entire 12 foot dildo into Ahmed's ass*
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https://discord dot gg/qvBXH

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>>131068792
Would EU Muslims get uppity to the logo of Islam in LBGT colors?
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>>131068386
If anything it might be a target for terror and prove our point. Its a gamble that the left is making.
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>>131069200
>logo of Islam
what?

also you need to understand that modernization of islam is a slow process and you won't be seeing lqbtq+ shit anywhere near those liberal mosques anytime soon
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>>131068802
What a fucking surprise, no muslims there
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There is already a mosque like this in London, see: http://inclusivemosqueinitiative.org/

It's mainly for liberal, programs I've "Muslims" , and ex-Muslims who can't let go of their Islamic identity. They are very pro LGBT, pro immigration, etc.

The people who run these mosques are absolute libtards, they are the sort of people who think IS doesn't represent Islam, which is a religion of peace.
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>>131070469
Liberal, progressive Muslims*
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>>131061541
Is Germany just trolling now?
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>be Germany
>2030
>whole country has converted to Islam
>giant shrine to Mohammad with dildos for arms in mosques
>all white women and nu males
>nobody wearing hijabs
>gimp suit imams
>Middle East is throwing a fit
>germany and EU army go on the genocidal warpath removing kebab
>lebensraum to 'protect Islam/diversity'
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>>131061672
Does anyone else feel like this is a jewish plot to plunge the western world further left and embrace faggotry in order to fight off and subdue sandniggers?

Half the people praising this are govt shills
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>>131062691
>Imagine radical feminism slowly influencing Saudi Arabia
>mfw brown arab traps
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>>131061541

I know ACTUAL moderate Muslims that would kill these people for this.

I don't blame them... It would be like SJW opening a church where the Holy Eucharist was semen, served from a dildo chalice.
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>>131071017
Isn't that already in use by the muzzies? They fuck femboys like it was the will of allah.
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>>131070600
No. This is what happens when people have no idea how to solve a situation without violence.

Anyone wants to bet on how long it takes until some madman runs in there and stabs everyone to death?

>>131071017
>soon™
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>>131061541
>He said how and where people worship isn't the state's business.
So that's why we have a church-tax and the state helps fund building/maintaining mosques/churches.... wait a second...
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>>131071381
They would go straight to hell for that though.
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>LGBT mosque
>imam starts reading the story of Lut
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>>131061541
Liberalism is hell of a drug
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>>131067311
This time I am with you yihadist. Kill them
See we don't have to fight all the time
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>>131061541
This is going to be the saddest episode of will it blend ever.
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>>131061541
I honestly don't know how to react.
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>>131061541

YES! GET THEM LIBERALS, ATTACK!
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>>131071709
Nah. Sexual emergencies m8.
Muhammad himself diddled boys, so it's awwright.
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>>131065099
SHIIIIET
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>>131069152
Fuck off Rohm was killed for a reason
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>>131068347
They bag up actual women and fuck little boys....how is that not beta as fuck?
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>>131061778
There is no way these mosques are not attacked. Your asking for death to show up to one, I'd give it 3 months. I seriously hate how ignorant people are about general Muslims.
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>>131066200
>why are the women clothed
>is that alcohol?
>I wish they would play a nasheed, insh'allah
>my feet hurt
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>>131063606

Is this what /pol/ meant by white shariah?
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>>131066078
That LARPing faggot has no clue.
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This is funny and I hope that it keeps going further. Seeing Islam basically destroyed by liberalism, at least in the west, would be interesting. I wonder if it would trigger a split kind of like what happened with Christianity. I also wonder how ISIS and middle eastern Muslims would react to it.
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>>131061541
Bombing in 3...2...1...
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Anyone have screenshots of Muslims reacting to this story on Twitter?

A lot of them hate it. This Dutch guy said something like "well there's always a first :^)" and a couple of muzzie fucks basically redpilled him.
It's not islamic for females to be imams.
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germany ruining everything once again
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>>131065099

This is just something to trot out to show """moderate""" Islam, just like Ahmadis.

This will have zero impact on the normal rapist muslim.
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>>131061541
>when Germany ends up destroying Islam before Europe
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>>131073227
they might target th mosque, would be a funny headline : ISIS hates muslims, blow up LGBTQ++++ mosque
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>>131072918
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>>131061541
Give it a month before it gets bombed or gets bulldozer of peace'd.
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>>131072977
not really
ruining islam, yes
but very good for us here, hope for a good happening
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>>131072357

Muslims won't give a shit about this, normal muslims will never go there any way. This is just for pretend muslims.

Shabbos goy who want to pretend islam doesn't hate them, the only reason they are muslim is because they internalized the hate for Christianity from their programmers (jews) and islam is a symbol of their rejection of Christianity.
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Wait what? Do /pol/acks actually support this liberal mosque?

It's clearly subversive to its core.

>is true Islam a bit too edgy for you?
>we got Islam-light for you right here!
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>>131074473
we will support it right until it goes up in the air
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>>131061541
a mosque for fags. tbf thats what germans do. they corrupt religions.
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>>131074473

its good for conflict between libtards and real muslims.

Right wingers know whats true islam, muslims know whats true islam.

only liberals act autistic and pretend that islam is anything you want it to be
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>>131061541

anyone who thinks muslims will buy this shit serious, is a moron.

you can't liberalize islam.
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>>131074473
You confuse laughed for support. Dumb ahmed.
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>>131074669
>>131074925
If anything you should oppose liberal mosques, burka bans and things like that. Their entire purpose is to blur the lines between natives and invaders.
>its good for conflict between libtards and real muslims.
if anything it will just make more liberals believe Islam is just another religion where men and women are equal and they all share a caffe latte over a friendly chat in the local mosque, so why not import more?
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Das right you fundamentalist bigots!

We Islam nao
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>>131068839
>Are these asshole liberals larping?
What do you think?
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>>131075803
Anno Domini>>> Common Era
Christmas>>>Holiday
Mosque>>> ???
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>>131074473

>we got Islam-light for you right here!

as if Christianity is any better with that shit
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>>131078319
christianity was replaced by "nice Jesus". christianity was a fusion between judaism and stoicism. , stoicism was ruined by jews
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>>131061778
>>131061672
>Western culture is so cancerous it even corrupts Islam
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>>131074925
That's what they thought about Christianity too decades ago. The Jew corrupts everything in time.
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Thankyou for the newspaper clippings, 4chan.
I have posted them to a liberal friends-of-islam page, along with a link to obtaining financial grants from my cucked government and given them a gentle shove in the right direction.

Now, I sit and wait for them to open one here, and the ensuing sectarian violence.
Red streets, red pills. Kek's will be done, amen.
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>>131066513
>>>131061541 (OP)
>G-guys are we going to destroy islam like we did with christianity?

Of course not, one does not destroy anything celebrating it.

You never celebrate the culture of your enemy.

This whether they are killed as heretics, only helps in the same way that the pope inviting muslims to prayer in the Vatican helps. Which is for the muslims to confirm we're done as a culture and are ripe for the taking.
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>>131074737
yeah because islam in turkey is totally not corrupted. damn those krauts!
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>>131068386
>>>131063083
>They're not subverting Islam, they are subverting the West. The purpose of this mosque is to further strengthen the narrative that Islam is a religion of peace, #notallmuslims, and to shut down racists who say Islam is evil. It is creating a normie friendly mosque especially for attracting white liberals, confirm their beliefs about Islam being progressive, and convert them.

Based, that's about it.
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>>131068846
>

Well, they're happy morons aren't they?
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>>131061541
>>131061672
>>131061778
These are the protestants of Islam, IS is true Islam.
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What the fuck is this?
No seriously, what the fuck is this shit. I don't understand it. This makes no sense. Who in their right minds would come up with this idea?

This must have gone through more than one person. There must have been committees of people discussing this idea, yet the majority of the people involved actually thought that this made any sense.
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>>131080476
That doggey rools
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>>131070536
>>>131070469
>Liberal, progressive Muslims*

Gosh the leftards really are running out of things to put together...
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>>131072762
>This is funny and I hope that it keeps going further. Seeing Islam basically destroyed by liberalism, at least in the west, would be interesting. I wonder if it would trigger a split kind of like what happened with Christianity. I also wonder how ISIS and middle eastern Muslims would react to it.

They will just kill the infidel heretics and get back to raping.

I get the feeling that most anons in the board don't quite understand Islam and the Islamic mentality that well.

Oh look some leftards are doing some muslim praying and they're gay, oooh islam is doomed.

For fuck sake people.
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>>131074473
Tainting Islam is a good thing.
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So THIS is how the west will force islam to fit into our society. I am okay with this, lets see how it developes.
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>>131068347
westerners used to be pretty tough only until a few decades ago. It really takes relative little time to become spoiled and decadent.
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>>131079254
>>>131074925
>That's what they thought about Christianity too decades ago. The Jew corrupts everything in time.

Except for the little detail that you sempai think that Islam is like Budism or Christianity

Wrong.
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>>131074737
>they corrupt religions.
The seperation happened because the Church was actually corrupt. Read a little, won't you roachie?
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>>131078763
Christianity wasn't replaced by "nice jesus" idiot. Jesus is literally the whole reason why CHRISTianity exist, it rejects most Judaic laws that call for murdering sinners, following certain diets, and wearing certain clothing. Jesus was not turned into a nice person (he already was), you are confusing the old testament/Jewish-interpretation of God with Jesus, whom called out Jews on their hypocrisy (pharisees were considered by Jesus to be hypocrites who closed off salvation for others).

There are tons of scriptures that mention how Jews were hypocrites. Here's an example:
Matthew 6: Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

2 “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the SYNAGOGUES and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
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>>131068386
they are subverting both
two birds one stone
the west gets more islamised, but by a perverted, distorted islam
everyone loses
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>>131082220
This
In the bible, it very well points out that the Jews kept fucking up and were the villains most of the time. Even than God loved them enough to come in the flesh as Jesus....And guess what? They STILL fucking killed him. After that, he had enough. Only gentiles were allowed into the kingdom of heaven, and the only way to go to it is through Jesus.
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>>131063281
There are no "normal" gays, you all deserve to die.
>t. Christian
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>>131082220
Internet strikes again :P, I meant that Jesus today became a parody of himself, super-ultra nice, don't hurt peoples feelings PC. His image has been distorted because people don't even touch the bible.
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>>131061672
>Berlin Opens First LGBT-friendly Mosque as 'Feminist' Islam Emerges to Fight Extremism
>feminist
>fighting extremism
Oh I chuckled
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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